View Full Version : Is Blackburg the real life Stamford?
Kirk G
04-18-2007, 05:49 PM
In light of the tragic news at Virginia Tech, the parallels to the recent Marvel Comics Stamford incident and media response has occurred to me.
Recognising that these are totally separate incidents, I see some parallel in how the media is responding, and how shocked the nation is.
Will this incident lead to sweeping gun control, higher campus security, or stricter mental health treatments...?
Beast
04-18-2007, 05:58 PM
No. Stamford and the reaction to it is more an analogy for the world post 9/11.
The SHRA is basically the Patriot Act. There's a whole number of comparisons.
Expletive Deleted
04-18-2007, 06:01 PM
No. For pretty much the reason Beast said.
Any similarities are due to the fact that this is how the media reacts to all tragedies, these days.
ultramandingo
04-18-2007, 06:31 PM
" Is Blackburg the real life Stamford?" ......
uhhhhh - " real life " ? i read comics to get away fom real life . trying to compare Blackburg it to a marvel comics sales gimick .........
DoctorDoom
04-18-2007, 09:16 PM
I have to agree with Beast on this one.
Alan2099
04-18-2007, 09:45 PM
Yes, and because of what hapened in Blackburg, you're soon going to see laws passed outlawing super powered vigilantism.
... wait.
No.
StoneGold
04-18-2007, 10:18 PM
Yes, and because of what hapened in Blackburg, you're soon going to see laws passed outlawing super powered vigilantism.
... wait.
No.
No, but you might see laws passed about reactionary stuff like writing bad poetry, or informing your campus that there's a madman on the loose.
Depending on how you want to look at it, Stamford is going to have parallels to any mass murder. Everyone gets on their high horse and starts banning whatever they think caused the tragedy.
Depending on how you want to look at it, Stamford is going to have parallels to any mass murder. Everyone gets on their high horse and starts banning whatever they think caused the tragedy.Which I guess was the point of Civil War- though most people (within the comic and in the real world) seems to have missed it.
Kirk G
04-19-2007, 02:18 PM
Which I guess was the point of Civil War- though most people (within the comic and in the real world) seems to have missed it.
Yeah, I think I agree with you, Sijo. I thought that was supposed to be the point too.
PS: Has anyone heard if Virginia is going to start a debate about gun control or if it is going to be put on the November ballot for a referendum?
Brian M.
04-19-2007, 02:30 PM
If anything comes from this it will be stricten searchs on a person appling to purchase a gun. As of right now the only thing searched about a person trying to purchase a gun is their criminal record. No health records, mental health records are searched. If anything comes from this, it'll be that both criminal and mental health records will be searched before approval can be met for purchasing a gun.
gorthon616
04-19-2007, 05:23 PM
No. Stamford and the reaction to it is more an analogy for the world post 9/11.
The SHRA is basically the Patriot Act. There's a whole number of comparisons.
Actually most of the comparisons between the SHRA and the Patriot Act are less substantive than people act like it is, but regardless the fact that it might be a better analogy to 9/11 doesn't mean that it isn't analogous to Blackburg as well.
sephirothskiller
04-19-2007, 06:01 PM
PS: Has anyone heard if Virginia is going to start a debate about gun control or if it is going to be put on the November ballot for a referendum?
Virginia's governor said that "now isn't the time to debate gun control."
Interesting fact: The day of the VT shootings 150 Iraqi civilians were killed.
Albert
04-20-2007, 03:30 AM
If anything comes from this it will be stricten searchs on a person appling to purchase a gun. As of right now the only thing searched about a person trying to purchase a gun is their criminal record. No health records, mental health records are searched. If anything comes from this, it'll be that both criminal and mental health records will be searched before approval can be met for purchasing a gun.
As the father of an autistic adolescent, I hope you're right. Given that the reports that the shooter had autism, I am fearful (and so is he) that this will negatively color people's perception.
As far as Stamford is concerned... that's a pretty big stretch IMO.
PCPaperbacks
04-20-2007, 12:15 PM
There is no similarities between the two. Gun control in Virginia is very weak because Virginians love guns! They had a cow when the purchasing of one gun a month law was passed. Since my wife and I went to Virginia Tech in the early 1990's, we have been very attached to the whole situation! The killer was a disturbed person who took his anger out on innocent fellow students.
The issue should more be about handguns! What is true purpose of a handgun? I think they are used for violence against humans... whether it is for protection (police or home security) and voilence (crime, revenge and anger). Hunters can keep their rifles, but the handgun is solely just a tool for killing each other!
Kirk G
04-20-2007, 02:50 PM
As the father of an autistic adolescent, I hope you're right. Given that the reports that the shooter had autism, I am fearful (and so is he) that this will negatively color people's perception.
As far as Stamford is concerned... that's a pretty big stretch IMO.
I have similar concerns... I've heard a Doctor speculate that the shoot MAY have had Schizophrenia.... and I immediately feared for all those who DO have it under control with medication, that they would become sterotyped with this shooter's crime.:evilangry
Kirk G
04-20-2007, 02:52 PM
Virginia's governor said that "now isn't the time to debate gun control."
Interesting fact: The day of the VT shootings 150 Iraqi civilians were killed.
Well, for crying out loud....
When IS THE CORRECT TIME to begin the debate about gun control?
AFTER THE NEXT MASSAQUER?:rolleyes:
PS: I also had caught the comparison to the 150 Iragi civilians and the lack of concern in this country about that massaquer also.... :eek:
StoneGold
04-20-2007, 04:07 PM
I have similar concerns... I've heard a Doctor speculate that the shoot MAY have had Schizophrenia.... and I immediately feared for all those who DO have it under control with medication, that they would become sterotyped with this shooter's crime.:evilangry
I doubt it. Everyone already just assumes that schizophrenics all have MPD.
desanth
04-20-2007, 07:25 PM
Yes, Stamford in the comics was based on what happened in Blackburg. The writer used time travel and actually uses future events to get interesting stories... j/k
PS: I also had caught the comparison to the 150 Iragi civilians and the lack of concern in this country about that massaquer also.... :eek:
Yeah, those were my exact thoughts as well, there are tons more deaths out there, but 1 kid goes loco and its all that they talk about. Oh well, ignorance is bliss, knamean?
Big Fresh
04-20-2007, 10:43 PM
Crap, guess I better go register...
HeckBoy
04-21-2007, 12:06 AM
Simple answer: no.
Longer answer: As far as I can tell, the only changes that'll result from this is stricter campus security (or at least reevaluations/changes in current protocol). Gun reform has been ballyhooed for years now, this won't change anything, except be provided as a reference point for future protests.
Albert
04-21-2007, 12:09 AM
I have similar concerns... I've heard a Doctor speculate that the shoot MAY have had Schizophrenia.... and I immediately feared for all those who DO have it under control with medication, that they would become sterotyped with this shooter's crime.:evilangry
An amen from the choir on that one.
StoneGold
04-21-2007, 01:21 AM
There would need to be something more special about Cho to make this a closer parallel to Stamford. Super powers, for instance, but that seems unlikely. Maybe if he were an illegal Mexican immigrant? Or if he killed everyone with pit bulls?
barbarous j
04-21-2007, 10:05 AM
This question is silly.
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