How much of a factor is the rest of Hulk's team?

[Subotai]

A lot of discussion about who is going to be able to handle the Hulk, of course... But what about the rest of his gladiators? Will they be a factor in WWH, and if so, how much? Or will they just be on the sidelines?

[Omega Alpha]

That remains to be seen. But they certainly make Hulk even more of a threat; he alone is already a huge menace, and with Hercules and Archangel's money on his side is even more.

[bandoogiemanz]

That remains to be seen. But they certainly make Hulk even more of a threat; he alone is already a huge menace, and with Hercules and Archangel's money on his side is even more.


I think he was referring to Hulk's Warbound.

[drwho]

The warbound show up start destroying and killing people and then the heroes that were sided with hulk will go wtf and switch sides real quick. The only thing we can hope is that Amadeus Cho turns into cannon fodder.

[Camron Amaya]

Almost any of the warbound guys are stronger then the avarege Earth hero so....at least it seems that way.

[Smokeyjay]

The shadow bound guy is probably really strong. He took up all the powers of the shadow guys.

The Broodling not so much. Unless she turns into a queen or something.

[Hrungr]

The warbound show up start destroying and killing people and then the heroes that were sided with hulk will go wtf and switch sides real quick. The only thing we can hope is that Amadeus Cho turns into cannon fodder.
Wow, what's with all the Cho hatin'? :confused:

As far as the Warbound go, ya got...

Hiroim - About a Class 75 guy with high durability and agility, great combat and tactical skills and with the Oldpower can create earthquakes and hit someone like a small nuke if needbe.

Korg - Class 100 guy, reasonable combat skills, uses weapons and acts as the voice of reason for the Hulk.

Miek - About a Class 3 or 5 guy, bloodthirsty as all hell, uses weapons, can fly and is telepathic.

Brood - Supposed to be some sort of elite breed of brood, above normal brood stats, much more intelligent than typical.

Elloe - Fodder. Bloodthirsty fodder, but fodder nonetheless.

[drwho]

Cho just comes off as a smart @$$ in his early appearances and he is gonna probably end up realizing that his actions caused the world to be deep in doodoo. :D

[Hrungr]

Cho just comes off as a smart @$$ in his early appearances and he is gonna probably end up realizing that his actions caused the world to be deep in doodoo. :D
Hell, being a smarta$$ is Cho's most endearing trait! :D

That fact that he can stick it Shield and Reed on nothing but pure brains and cojones and elude capture on that POS scooter o' his gets serious props in my book. We'll see if his actions come and bite him in the a$$ later, but for now - Cho's da man... err.. kid.

[MAK15]

Id actually say that the Hulk's war bound crew is enough to make the Mighty 'Vengers cry for their mommas...
We know that Miek can at least pierce Hulk's Flesh, Krog could survive against Thor, the Gray dude is now the strongest of his ilk, Elloe is prolly stronger than your average human, and the Brood...is a sleazoid.
now, couple that with Miek's bugs, Elloe's refugees and the robots (did the robots come with?) then you can see that Tony is gonna be forced to use the Initiative recruits to save his arse.

Hell, I wanna see Hulk's Empire square off against Black Bolt's Inhuman Kingdom. Man that would be sweet.

[Brad Barton]

Hiroim - About a Class 75 guy.

You only put Hiroim at class 75? I dunno, seeing as how Hulk is class 100+, and Caiera with her Oldstrong power was easily a match for him, I'd now put Hiroim at class 100 at least...

[Hrungr]

You only put Hiroim at class 75? I dunno, seeing as how Hulk is class 100+, and Caiera with her Oldstrong power was easily a match for him, I'd now put Hiroim at class 100 at least...
Now I maybe wrong, but the Hulk's strength was still "on the mend" at the time and from what I could see he still looked somewhat stronger than her. Her Oldpower attack is more like a suped up "Iron Fist", more of an explosive energy attack than pure strength.

That said, if I see Hiroim trading blows evenly with another C100 guy, I'll happily amend my estimate. :)

[Brad Barton]

Now I maybe wrong, but the Hulk's strength was still "on the mend" at the time and from what I could see he still looked somewhat stronger than her. Her Oldpower attack is more like a suped up "Iron Fist", more of an explosive energy attack than pure strength.

That said, if I see Hiroim trading blows evenly with another C100 guy, I'll happily amend my estimate. :)

I wouldn't be surprised if just that happened. I think Hulk/Korg/Hiroim are the power trio we're going to see taking on the most heroes. I'd say Miek, Brood and Elloe will be sent by Hulk on some sort of special mission (mostly with the intent of getting them out of harms way.)

As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure Miek and Brood do strike out on their own in some fashion, as they have a guest appearance in Heroes for Hire together.

And as for Elloe...well, she'll find a way to stir up some trouble somewhere on Earth, Im sure.

[StoneGold]

Is Korg class 100? Thor, in his very first appearance, with the mind of Don Blake, beat the taste out of the Stone Men of Saturn's entire invasion force's collective mouths. Also, keep in mind, Korg and Hulk appeared about the same strength when Hulk was weakened by the warp effect.


And I still think Miek is going to be the key to WWH, but mostly because I'm still speculating that Miek sabotaged the ship to get Hulk on the warpath and the Warbound active again.

[Hrungr]

Is Korg class 100? Thor, in his very first appearance, with the mind of Don Blake, beat the taste out of the Stone Men of Saturn's entire invasion force's collective mouths. Also, keep in mind, Korg and Hulk appeared about the same strength when Hulk was weakened by the warp effect.
Korg did mention that when they invaded Earth they were just "young rocks" or something to that effect. Likely they're stonger now. Anyway, he's ranked as C100.

And I still think Miek is going to be the key to WWH, but mostly because I'm still speculating that Miek sabotaged the ship to get Hulk on the warpath and the Warbound active again.
That's definitely one of the frontrunning theories so far, but who knows? Pak may have a twist in mind with something coming way out of left field. :confused:

[StoneGold]

That's definitely one of the frontrunning theories so far, but who knows? Pak may have a twist in mind with something coming way out of left field. :confused:

Heh, so far I thought I was the only one floating that theory. Everyone else seems to just want to blame Reed and Tony. I'm glad I'm not the only one, though.

[Quinch]

Ill put my 2 favorite theorys here.

Someone close to Stark - possibly Maria Hill - possibly an as yet unrevealed connection to the illumanati sabotaged it.

Or Hiroim.
I think that his relgious beliefs (and the fact he wanted to be the Sarkasson) found the Hulk as savior anathema.

Im certain I'm the only person to come out with that last theory so I want it marked down for owning the internet (self awarded) later :)

[StoneGold]

Ill put my 2 favorite theorys here.

Someone close to Stark - possibly Maria Hill - possibly an as yet unrevealed connection to the illumanati sabotaged it.

Or Hiroim.
I think that his relgious beliefs (and the fact he wanted to be the Sarkasson) found the Hulk as savior anathema.

Im certain I'm the only person to come out with that last theory so I want it marked down for owning the internet (self awarded) later :)

Hiroim seems a less likely suspect, just because he hasn't been shown to have any opportunity, or motive really (did it say anywhere he wanted to be the Sarkasson? I don't remember that). Although I guess he is the most likely suspect, in that he is (along with Korg) the least likely suspect. Actually, Korg is probably the least likely suspect. Therefor, according to Ronin logic, it must be Korg.


Actually, I guess Aunt May would be the least likely suspect. But she was too busy banging Jarvis and being shot.

[Jack]

did it say anywhere he wanted to be the Sarkasson? I don't remember thatThat's why he was banished in the first place - he believed that he might be the Sakaarson, and ended up striking his teacher when the guy saw through him.

Miek probably did sabotage the ship, I believe that as well... but I wouldn't exactly put the blame on Reed or Tony (dickish as the whole thing might be). At the very least the ship went through the physics disturbing effects of the portal, not to mention being bashed around by the Hulk and crashlanding on the wrong planet. And it was probably a bad idea to let kids play with it. And even so it wouldn't have blown up the planet if not for the Red King destabilising it beforehand. And IIRC the Red King ordered his scientists to find out how the ship worked, so they probably messed around with it a bunch too.

[Quinch]

Korg least likely? I suppose.
Hulk did use Korg as a club to smash Korg's brothers in the maw though.
Yet I don't think that's enough. Korg was the peacemaker of the bunch.
Yeah it means he's the least likeliest but everyone would therefore assume he is the least likeliest and ignore the overlooked least least likeliest because the least least likeliest is as forementioned, ignored.
Plus Hiroim got the old power after nuking Ceira!
Definately makes him the likeliest of the least likeliest that you are likely to find.

[StoneGold]

That's why he was banished in the first place - he believed that he might be the Sakaarson, and ended up striking his teacher when the guy saw through him.



I totally forgot about that. Probably because in every other instance, Hiroim has been so lacking in hubris. That, and he doesn't seem like the kind of dude who would sacrifice his race for a bit of power, whereas Miek's race was a dead end to begin with. Which I guess makes him a key suspect, in that he isn't one.


But I'm still keeping an eye on Aunt May. She's probably the Winter Soldier.

[StoneGold]

Korg least likely? I suppose.
Hulk did use Korg as a club to smash Korg's brothers in the maw though.
Yet I don't think that's enough. Korg was the peacemaker of the bunch.
Yeah it means he's the least likeliest but everyone would therefore assume he is the least likeliest and ignore the overlooked least least likeliest because the least least likeliest is as forementioned, ignored.
Plus Hiroim got the old power after nuking Ceira!
Definately makes him the likeliest of the least likeliest that you are likely to find.

I can't disagree with anything you say there. These are who it's not going to be, but that's why it's going to be them.


This should be it's own thread.

[Quinch]

I thought Aunt May was Squirrel Girl.

[Subotai]

I thought she was Ronin. Ronin can be female, right?

[StoneGold]

I thought she was Ronin. Ronin can be female, right?

No, Ronin is Echo. Just the Marvel Zombies version of Echo.

[DoctorDoom]

I can't wait to see the Warbound in some real action, now that they're out of the Great Portal, and at peak strength.


As for the Miek theory, all I can say in his defense is that it seemed like he was coming around at the end (it even looked like he was trying to convince Elloe that maybe the new peace was indeed better)

[dabig2]

Korg, Hiroim, and Hulk is all you need to defeat all of the earth's heroes not named Sentry and Thor (just to be on the safe side).

Miek and Brood aren't slouches either. They could probably take out your average C list hero and lower. Elloe can go die in a fire.

[StoneGold]

As for the Miek theory, all I can say in his defense is that it seemed like he was coming around at the end (it even looked like he was trying to convince Elloe that maybe the new peace was indeed better)

Yes, how odd that his opinion went 180 degrees immediately before the ship went kablooie.

The other thing about Hulk being betrayed by Miek is it sets up something of a resolution for WWH. It distracts Bruce from his war against Humanity. And it does show that the Illuminati might have had a point, given that Hulk smashes earth on faulty information.