View Full Version : Least number of costume changes
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 04:55 PM
One of the Ronin threads got me thinking, what Marvel hero has had the least number of costume changes? For the sake of argument, we're going to have to limit this to characters who have had a starring role in a book. I think accepting major team book players is OK, but, for instance, Captain Ultra wouldn't, just because he hasn't had enough appearances to bother changing his costume.
Loner
04-16-2007, 05:08 PM
Spider-Woman 1? I think her only change has been her mask -once- and that was very early on in her series.
Though now that I think about it, Black Bolt may not have ever changed.
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 05:26 PM
Spider-Woman 1? I think her only change has been her mask -once- and that was very early on in her series.
Though now that I think about it, Black Bolt may not have ever changed.
There was also the whole "Jessica Drew, PI" period. Which was standard enough that I think it counts as a change.
Blackbolt is a good one though. Hell, he was like the only guy Jae Lee didn't alter for the maxi-series. Closest I can think of to a costume change is when he puts on the funky Kirby crown.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/whitmore_sean/blackbolt003.jpg
Lanowar
04-16-2007, 05:43 PM
There was also the whole "Jessica Drew, PI" period. Which was standard enough that I think it counts as a change.
Blackbolt is a good one though. Hell, he was like the only guy Jae Lee didn't alter for the maxi-series. Closest I can think of to a costume change is when he puts on the funky Kirby crown.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/whitmore_sean/blackbolt003.jpg
The image there just made me imagine if he could talk he would say
"Fear the space turkey!"
overcomebyfumes
04-16-2007, 05:44 PM
Silver Surfer? I'd say not a single costume change.
Pax.
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 05:46 PM
Silver Surfer? I'd say not a single costume change.
Pax.
Depends if you want to count the loss of the cosmic boxer shorts as a costume change or not.
Joe Acro
04-16-2007, 05:47 PM
I'd say Doctor Strange has stayed pretty consistently dressed.
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 05:50 PM
I'd say Doctor Strange has stayed pretty consistently dressed.
Nah, he's had a bunch. From the Eye of Aggomotto changing shape, to the eyepatch days, to when he had the full facemask, to the funky shirt from the Marvel Knights books, to the casual look from the latest mini-series... I'm sure there have been a few more too, that's just off the top of my head.
Blake Petit
04-16-2007, 05:52 PM
The Punisher hasn't changed much -- the boots and gloves went from silver to black and back again, but other than that.
Hmm... has Moon Knight ever changed his costume?
Shyft
04-16-2007, 05:54 PM
Captain America?
Mike Smash!
04-16-2007, 05:57 PM
Captain America?Cap's a good example. Aside from the change to his mask and switching to the iconic round shield, he's been pretty consistent over the years. Recently they added some pouches to his belt, as well.
But he did take on alternate identities a time or two. Nomad and the Captain (which later became U.S. Agent's costume).
Mike Smash!
04-16-2007, 06:01 PM
If we include villains, Dr. Doom has been pretty consistent. He added the cape pretty early on and he briefly wore the leather armor when he embraced magic a couple years back, but for a majority of his time in comics, he's looked exactly the same.
Daredevil, as well. Aside from the yellow and black at the beginning of his career and the brief stint in the armored outfit in the '90s, he's stuck to the red tights pretty consistently.
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 06:02 PM
The Punisher hasn't changed much -- the boots and gloves went from silver to black and back again, but other than that.
Hmm... has Moon Knight ever changed his costume?
Moon Knight's costume has changed a couple of times. His first appearance was drastically changed from his second, and then there was the whole adamantium armor period.
As for Punisher, he's had a few. There was the angel costume, the armor he had for a couple of issues, various switches from a more traditional costume to t-shirts, whether or not the teeth of the costume were just a part of the shirt or a cartridge belt, etc.
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 06:05 PM
Cap's a good example. Aside from the change to his mask and switching to the iconic round shield, he's been pretty consistent over the years. Recently they added some pouches to his belt, as well.
But he did take on alternate identities a time or two. Nomad and the Captain (which later became U.S. Agent's costume).
Cap's had a few more besides that. Even if you discount the pouches/more defined mask and armor which has seemingly been retconed a bit into the character's past, there was the original costume with the triangle shield and no neck, the battle harness from when Cap was dying, the armor from when Cap was dying even more, and then some minor stuff, like when the Avengers were all wearing leather jackets on top of their costumes. Oh, almost forgot the King Arthur costume from Avengers #2 when Morgan Le Fey was messing with them, and the Kulan Gath costume.
Sanagi
04-16-2007, 06:07 PM
Captain Marvel(the Shazam one). Did he ever change his costume significantly?
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 06:15 PM
If we include villains, Dr. Doom has been pretty consistent. He added the cape pretty early on and he briefly wore the leather armor when he embraced magic a couple years back, but for a majority of his time in comics, he's looked exactly the same.
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I was specifically leaving out villains, just because they tend to change their clothes even less, but Doom has had a few more. This page alone has a few different looks, and it's a bit out of date, leaving out stuff like the lion hide costume.
http://members.aol.com/doomscribe/armor.htm
Shyft
04-16-2007, 06:19 PM
Deadpool has been pretty consistant.
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 06:58 PM
Deadpool has been pretty consistant.
He's had tons of changes. Hell, the Liefeld days alone. Granted, that was probably due to Rob not being able to keep the suit consistent, but there have been a bunch of minor changes to the costume over the years. And that's not counting major stuff like the Thor costume, the Mithras armor, running around in Jean's old costume, Astonishing X-Men costume, etc.
The Iron Fist
04-16-2007, 07:24 PM
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8013/ironfist4pa1.th.png (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist4pa1.png)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1642/ironfist3lo3.png
With his new ongoing series, Iron Fist had a new costume change.
Deadpooligan
04-16-2007, 07:28 PM
He's had tons of changes. Hell, the Liefeld days alone. Granted, that was probably due to Rob not being able to keep the suit consistent, but there have been a bunch of minor changes to the costume over the years. And that's not counting major stuff like the Thor costume, the Mithras armor, running around in Jean's old costume, Astonishing X-Men costume, etc.
The only major costumes DP has had are:
-Original X-Force era w/pouches (http://www.geocities.com/x_villains/deadpool/deadpool_first.jpg)
-Classic Kelly era (w/o pouches, more defined red/black jigsaw (http://www.comicsvf.com/scans/vf/marvelfrance/deadpool/1.jpg)
-Cable and DP "Assassin" clothes (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Deadpool.png).
The Thorpool, Mithras, Weapon X Black, Marvel Girl, and vomit inducing X-Men costume have each not lasted more than four issues apiece. They can hardly be considered changes.
1WEBHEAD
04-16-2007, 07:34 PM
What about Hawkeye, Hercules, Galactus and Banshee?
Blake Petit
04-16-2007, 07:36 PM
What about Hawkeye, Hercules, Galactus and Banshee?
Hawkeye went through several permutations of his basic look, plus the look he had in the 90s during the leather jacket phase. Herc had sort of the same thing (and even shaved at one point). Galactus's look has been pretty consistent, except for losing the original "G" and getting long sleeves...
Banshee, Banshee... I could swear he went through a couple of changes, but at the moment, I can't think of what they were.
1WEBHEAD
04-16-2007, 07:40 PM
Hawkeye went through several permutations of his basic look, plus the look he had in the 90s during the leather jacket phase. Herc had sort of the same thing (and even shaved at one point). Galactus's look has been pretty consistent, except for losing the original "G" and getting long sleeves...
Banshee, Banshee... I could swear he went through a couple of changes, but at the moment, I can't think of what they were.
How about Mysterio and Mr. Sinister?
streator
04-16-2007, 08:01 PM
Banshee, Banshee... I could swear he went through a couple of changes, but at the moment, I can't think of what they were.
banshee has had at least 4 different looks.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=95&page=8
streator
04-16-2007, 08:09 PM
going through the other www.uncannyxmen.net spotlight costume galleries:
blink has had a fairly consistent look most of the time.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=104&page=6
juggernaut as well.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96&page=9
longshot has kept pretty much the same costume since he first appeared.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=117&page=6
pete wisdom has always had the non-costume look.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=114&page=5
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 08:10 PM
The only major costumes DP has had are:
-Original X-Force era w/pouches (http://www.geocities.com/x_villains/deadpool/deadpool_first.jpg)
-Classic Kelly era (w/o pouches, more defined red/black jigsaw (http://www.comicsvf.com/scans/vf/marvelfrance/deadpool/1.jpg)
-Cable and DP "Assassin" clothes (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Deadpool.png).
The Thorpool, Mithras, Weapon X Black, Marvel Girl, and vomit inducing X-Men costume have each not lasted more than four issues apiece. They can hardly be considered changes.
Sure they can. But you're still leaving out the open mask hooded look, the design change when Priest came on the book, and I believe several other design changes where, while the basic look might have stayed the same, the design shifted a lot.
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 08:11 PM
How about Mysterio and Mr. Sinister?
No villains. But Mysterio has had a ton of revamp attempts in the last couple years.
PatchMadripoor
04-16-2007, 08:12 PM
The Silver Surfer.
Captain Marvel(the Shazam one). Did he ever change his costume significantly? Cap's costume was redesigned in the 90's to add a flap and buttons to his chest that gave a kind of "majorette" look to it. Other than that, it's been pretty much the same since the 40's.
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 08:20 PM
Cap's costume was redesigned in the 90's to add a flap and buttons to his chest that gave a kind of "majorette" look to it. Other than that, it's been pretty much the same since the 40's.
You haven't been reading the new Shazam book then that Winnick's been writing.
In any case, I wasn't talking about that kind of Marvel.
streator
04-16-2007, 08:21 PM
quicksilver's only had a few looks:
the green and white costume
the blue and white costume
the x-factor yellow and blue costume
the mid 90s blue and white costume
...
someone else- the sentry
lazykarateguy
04-16-2007, 08:21 PM
Sure they can. But you're still leaving out the open mask hooded look, the design change when Priest came on the book, and I believe several other design changes where, while the basic look might have stayed the same, the design shifted a lot.
Also when they renamed it briefly to "Deadpool Agent of Weapon X" or something like that, he reversed his color scheme and wore a short sleeved shirt
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 08:23 PM
Hawkeye went through several permutations of his basic look, plus the look he had in the 90s during the leather jacket phase. Herc had sort of the same thing (and even shaved at one point). Galactus's look has been pretty consistent, except for losing the original "G" and getting long sleeves....
Hawkeye's had a ton of changes. Hell, name changes, even. He had the toga look for a while as Goliath, the slightly less crappy Goliath costume, then there was the urban assault costume, the Force Works open mask costume, a bunch of minor re-designs the last couple of years...
Herc's had a couple as well. The green underwear, the toga, the Kevin Sorbo pants, his Heroes For Hire metal headpiece thingy, and that's not counting his outfit from his maxiseries, because that's from an alternate future.
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 08:25 PM
someone else- the sentry
Considering the small number of books Sentry has actually appeared in though, the fact that he has two - the masked and unmasked look - is a lot.
streator
04-16-2007, 08:31 PM
Considering the small number of books Sentry has actually appeared in though, the fact that he has two - the masked and unmasked look - is a lot.
i didn't even know he wore a mask once. i haven't read many of his appearances.
how about magneto?
he's had the classic look, the purple and white uncanny 200 look, the eve of destruction look, the planet x/movie look... anything else?
StoneGold
04-16-2007, 08:40 PM
i didn't even know he wore a mask once. i haven't read many of his appearances.
how about magneto?
he's had the classic look, the purple and white uncanny 200 look, the eve of destruction look, the planet x/movie look... anything else?
Again, I'd count Maggie as more of a villain than a hero. Yeah, he's been on the side of the angels, yeah, he's conflicted, but when you boil down the X-Men to their simplest, he's their primary foe.
As for the Sentry mask thing, it's part of his fake back history. It was a "lost" piece of art by John Romita Sr. But then he's also had his cape redesigned.
http://www.marvelmasterworks.com/marveltrades/images/panel_sentry_b.jpg
Kirk G
04-16-2007, 09:54 PM
Uh, I haven't read this whole thread, but there's a major factor that got in the way of this... about 1985 or so...when Jim Shooter and the lawyers at Marvel started worrying that he might sue over ownership of the characters that Marvel Comics was publishing and making their daily bread upon.
Though it was disguised as "Marvel Characters Grow and Change", what was happening was characters were all being altered into a different forms.
Think about it... every Marvel comics hero underwent a significant change...
Iron Man, silver armor
Hulk, broke leg, and then when Grey... got intellegence
Thor, scared and grew beard, along with armor.
Daredevil, gained armor
She-Hulk, wore a costume
Spiderman, switched to black offit
FF, trading in Blue or black outfits...
Avengers led by new leaders...
USAGent takes over for Cap.
Cap America becomes The Captain...
Submariner dons a black webed outfit
It was a move to protect the company from a suit that never materialized.
So, who has had the least changes? I'd guess it was either the Hulk in those torn purple shorts, or the FF in sublte navy Blue or black outfits. Maybe the Thing in his blue shorts and orange scales.
But Thor was pretty stead for years...and Cap was always coming back to his classic images too.
I Thing I've said enough...
1WEBHEAD
04-17-2007, 04:50 AM
No villains. But Mysterio has had a ton of revamp attempts in the last couple years.
Okay then, how about Black Bolt? I'm pretty sure Gravity never changed his costume.
garin
04-17-2007, 04:58 AM
-Original X-Force era w/pouches (http://www.geocities.com/x_villains/deadpool/deadpool_first.jpg)Holy crap, look at the bottom panel on that page. It took me a long time to even parse it.
Blake Petit
04-17-2007, 04:59 AM
Gravity was also only around for like a year and a half...
Shyft
04-17-2007, 05:49 AM
Considering the small number of books Sentry has actually appeared in though, the fact that he has two - the masked and unmasked look - is a lot.
Sentry went through a boat load of different costumes in his first mini.
theardri
04-17-2007, 06:53 AM
One of the Ronin threads got me thinking, what Marvel hero has had the least number of costume changes? For the sake of argument, we're going to have to limit this to characters who have had a starring role in a book. I think accepting major team book players is OK, but, for instance, Captain Ultra wouldn't, just because he hasn't had enough appearances to bother changing his costume.
Silver surfer ... oh wait!
Quinch
04-17-2007, 09:09 AM
Surfer
Galactus
on one a piece?
Watcher 2 I think...
Hulk (purple pants and the other 2 I can think of - the jumpsuit of the Professor and Fixit's italian suits)
Cthulhudrew
04-17-2007, 09:41 AM
If we include villains, Dr. Doom has been pretty consistent. He added the cape pretty early on and he briefly wore the leather armor when he embraced magic a couple years back, but for a majority of his time in comics, he's looked exactly the same.
He also had the cool Simonson Promethium Armor for a time. And then there's the Kristoff Doom look (when Kristoff was programmed to believe he was Doom).
EDIT- Of course, next time I could finish clicking on page 2 and reading Stonegold's post before I add my 2 cents. ;)
Cthulhudrew
04-17-2007, 09:50 AM
Tigra's only ever had one costume, unless you count her days as the Cat and the addition of the tail as costume changes. :)
Namor's only had two costumes that I can recall- his speedo and the regal black-winged looking thing. (Possibly a third, if you consider that the mysterious and unidentified armored person from the Atlantis Attacks! storyline may have been Namor. Actually, come to think of it, he may have worn a form of Atlantean armor once, too...)
As for Punisher, he's had a few. There was the angel costume, the armor he had for a couple of issues, various switches from a more traditional costume to t-shirts, whether or not the teeth of the costume were just a part of the shirt or a cartridge belt, etc.How could you forget...
http://www.thepunishercomics.com/comics/v2/v2_051-060/v2_060.jpg
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 10:14 AM
Namor's only had two costumes that I can recall- his speedo and the regal black-winged looking thing. (Possibly a third, if you consider that the mysterious and unidentified armored person from the Atlantis Attacks! storyline may have been Namor. Actually, come to think of it, he may have worn a form of Atlantean armor once, too...)
Namor also had a modified version of his green trunks, where it was more of a thong and had some gold lining. And then there were the original black trunks, but I forgot how Roy Thomas made those work with continuity. I know he devoted a story to it.
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 10:27 AM
How could you forget...
Good taste. Although that does bring up a question, does changing facial hair, skin color, etc, count as a costume change? I'd argue yes, just because as far as the license is concerned, it's a major change to the visual trademark. Wrong company, but Mullet Superman was as much a costume change as the Electric Blue. Although for the sake of this thread, it would have to be fairly drastic. Jim Lee not drawing the Punisher with the little receding hairline, changing the way he'd be drawn for the next 20 years, was more of a minor artistic decision than an actual costume change. Whereas when Quasar had his long hair cut in battle so it became a mullet, that would count, because it was part of the story, and silly.
You haven't been reading the new Shazam book then that Winnick's been writing. No, and I won't (or any other DC comic any time soon.) I love the DCU, I hate what it's being done to it these days. I'll come back once Didio's gone. Also, I'm not even sure if the series is canonical (the whole "different gods" thing had already been explained in War of the Gods, there was no need to reinvent it.)
Neptunicus
04-17-2007, 02:39 PM
Surfer
Galactus
on one a piece?
Watcher 2 I think...
Hulk (purple pants and the other 2 I can think of - the jumpsuit of the Professor and Fixit's italian suits)
Surfer has worns undies in the past and not worn undies in the past and early Galactus didn't wear pants. I'm not kidding. He also had a big G on his chest and has some other subtle changes over time....
http://www.cosmiccomix.com/comics/SilverSurfer/BigG.jpg
Neptunicus
04-17-2007, 03:02 PM
Rom never changed but he is out of circulation (due to copyright issues) so that answer is cheating a bit. Did Sasquatch really ever change? Maybe he doesn't count either. Plus he switched bodies into the Snowbird Sasquatch version at some point.....but he looked the same (excepting the color).
Cthulhudrew
04-17-2007, 03:08 PM
How about Gambit? I haven't read X-Books (aside from X-Factor) in a long while, but it seemed to me that he always kept the same boots, trenchcoat, and purple/blue tunic combo even when the other X-Men adopted matching uniforms and such.
Surfer has worns undies in the past and not worn undies in the past and early Galactus didn't wear pants. I'm not kidding. He also had a big G on his chest and has some other subtle changes over time....
http://www.geocities.com/marvel_villain/galactus/galactus_watcher.jpg
The Watcher's lost weight, too.
Neptunicus
04-17-2007, 03:21 PM
The Watcher's lost weight, too.
Apparently that was during the Watcher's "Fat Elvis" stage.....
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 03:23 PM
How about Gambit? I haven't read X-Books (aside from X-Factor) in a long while, but it seemed to me that he always kept the same boots, trenchcoat, and purple/blue tunic combo even when the other X-Men adopted matching uniforms and such.
Nah, Gambit's had a whole mess. Do an imagesearch on Gambit, and you'll see a couple different costumes on the first page alone.
phantom1592
04-17-2007, 03:39 PM
Uh, I haven't read this whole thread, but there's a major factor that got in the way of this... about 1985 or so...when Jim Shooter and the lawyers at Marvel started worrying that he might sue over ownership of the characters that Marvel Comics was publishing and making their daily bread upon.
Though it was disguised as "Marvel Characters Grow and Change", what was happening was characters were all being altered into a different forms.
Think about it... every Marvel comics hero underwent a significant change...
Iron Man, silver armor
Hulk, broke leg, and then when Grey... got intellegence
Thor, scared and grew beard, along with armor.
Daredevil, gained armor
She-Hulk, wore a costume
Spiderman, switched to black offit
FF, trading in Blue or black outfits...
Avengers led by new leaders...
USAGent takes over for Cap.
Cap America becomes The Captain...
Submariner dons a black webed outfit
It was a move to protect the company from a suit that never materialized.
So, who has had the least changes? I'd guess it was either the Hulk in those torn purple shorts, or the FF in sublte navy Blue or black outfits. Maybe the Thing in his blue shorts and orange scales.
But Thor was pretty stead for years...and Cap was always coming back to his classic images too.
I Thing I've said enough...
Seems like a legitimate story.
Except for Daredevil. He got the armor LONG after the rest of these changes happened. Sometime in the mid ninetys I believe.
Neptunicus
04-17-2007, 03:45 PM
Seems like a legitimate story.
Except for Daredevil. He got the armor LONG after the rest of these changes happened. Sometime in the mid ninetys I believe.
This might miake for a good piece in the Urban Legends column if there is a story behind this......
Cthulhudrew
04-17-2007, 04:25 PM
Speedball's only had two.
Gamora, I believe, has only had one- unless you count her robed "civvies" as a costume. (Can't recall offhand if she had a different outfit in Annihilation). She might not count for purposes of what you're looking for, though.
How about Nightcrawler? He's only had the one look that I know of (again, unless you count the "pirate" garb he's worn on occasion as a costume).
[EDIT- Unless he wore one of the X-uniforms from the Morrison days, then that would be two.]
Shyft
04-17-2007, 04:27 PM
Nah, Gambit's had a whole mess. Do an imagesearch on Gambit, and you'll see a couple different costumes on the first page alone.
really? i just keep finding his classic look.
Joe Acro
04-17-2007, 04:28 PM
How about Nightcrawler? He's only had the one look that I know of (again, unless you count the "pirate" garb he's worn on occasion as a costume).
[EDIT- Unless he wore one of the X-uniforms from the Morrison days, then that would be two.]Nightcrawler has had costume changes, but they've mostly been subtle, I believe.
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 04:31 PM
Speedball's only had two. Speedy's had way more than two. He had the original, the one he morphed into when he was jealous because everyone else got a costume change, the second series costume, the miniseries costume, and now Penance.
Gamora, I believe, has only had one- unless you count her robed "civvies" as a costume. (Can't recall offhand if she had a different outfit in Annihilation). She might not count for purposes of what you're looking for, though.
Yeah, she's a bit too obscure to count for this.
How about Nightcrawler? He's only had the one look that I know of (again, unless you count the "pirate" garb he's worn on occasion as a costume).
[EDIT- Unless he wore one of the X-uniforms from the Morrison days, then that would be two.]
Again, do an imagesearch on Nightcrawler. I counted five non-alternate reality costumes on the first page alone. And I'm pretty sure I remember a few more.
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 04:33 PM
really? i just keep finding his classic look.
Three quick ones, because that's all I'm allowed.
http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/xmen/gambit.jpg
http://polyphobia.de/nonpublic/muddles/gambit/gambit_07.jpg
http://www.zeuscomics.com/images/covers/gambit-1.jpg
Joe Acro
04-17-2007, 04:34 PM
Has Captain Britain had more than one costume?
And StoneGold, you can post four images...
Blake Petit
04-17-2007, 04:35 PM
At least three Cap'n Britains -- the original with the big lion emblem, the classic version, and the one he's wearing now (which is similar to the classic, but more streamlined).
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 04:37 PM
Has Captain Britain had more than one costume?
And StoneGold, you can post four images...
Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. It's a size issue as well, I think. In any case, I figure three should get the point across.
In any case, as for Brian...
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/captainbritain4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/7498/excalibur/bcover5.jpg
http://www.bcotd.com/Captain_Britain_No20_Feb_23_1977_Marvel.jpg
So at least three.
Joe Acro
04-17-2007, 04:39 PM
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/captainbritain4.jpg
Is he really Captain Britain in that shot, though?
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 04:41 PM
Is he really Captain Britain in that shot, though?
It's Brian Braddock. If you're going to get nitpicky that it's not Captain Britain, then you have to include all the times the costume has included boobies.
Besides, the New Exaclibur costume was modified from the cowled version.
http://www.newsarama.com/wwphilly05/Marvel/XPanel/New_Excalibur.jpg
RonnieThunderbolts
04-17-2007, 04:50 PM
Is he really Captain Britain in that shot, though?
Its still Brian Braddock, and yes, he is Captain Britain. Brian's had several uniforms, check out the spotlight sections at Uncannyxmen.net for most major X-characters' looks in their costumes section. Brian has had two different styles of the red/white/blue Union Flag costumes before the current incarnation, as well as the red/gold/blue original costume, his time as Britannic's red jumpsuit. and the mostly black version of his classic red/white/blue Excalibur costume from the Pacheco/Ellis run of Excalibur when her returned to being called Captain Britain, and then the black and white one we're referencing. Thats 6 Captain Britain uniforms and the Britannic as well.
Nightcrawler has had several distinct looks as well, including his classic Cockrum look that has maintained use for the most part, his poncho/nearly in his undies look he sported with a shaved head and goatee during the aforementioned Pacheco/Ellis run, the armor he wore during the X-Men "Revoltuion" relaunch when Claremont first returned to the X-Books, his two New X-Men era looks and his more recent Alan Davis designed costume, that has many similarities to the original, but is different enough to be considered a new costume, with the lack of pointy shoulders and the X emblem present on his chest.
Really, Almost all characters have had at least one costume change if they've been around long at all. Heck, even the Young Avengers, save Kate, have all run around in two costumes, you might even argue that Kate's makeshift bridesmaid gown/Mockingbird mask counts as a seperate look.
One old character who has had only one costume owes it mostly to his lack of appearance, and that is Black Crow.
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 04:54 PM
One old character who has had only one costume owes it mostly to his lack of appearance, and that is Black Crow.
Yeah, but he's too obscure to fit the criteria.
So far, I'm thinking Blackbolt is the winner with basically no real costume changes. Although Silver Surfer's disappearing cosmic boxer shorts are a close second, just because he's had his own book.
streator
04-17-2007, 05:02 PM
captain britain, gambit and nightcrawler have all had 4+ different costumes.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=113&page=11
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=83&page=9
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=70&page=9
gambit's image gallery is behind 2 costumes as well (post reload and his death look).
Joe Acro
04-17-2007, 05:06 PM
How about the Black Cat? Her costume stays pretty consistent.
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 05:07 PM
captain britain, gambit and nightcrawler have all had 4+ different costumes.
Hell, it would probably be a feat to find an X-Man with at least 20 appearances who hasn't had at least one costume change.
Did Cecilia Reyes have more than the blue and gold costume? She spent most of her appearances in civvies, didn't she?
streator
04-17-2007, 05:08 PM
Yeah, but he's too obscure to fit the criteria.
So far, I'm thinking Blackbolt is the winner with basically no real costume changes. Although Silver Surfer's disappearing cosmic boxer shorts are a close second, just because he's had his own book.
black bolt has had a slight tweaking in the design around his mid-section.
other than that i would agree that he's been pretty consistent.
streator
04-17-2007, 05:10 PM
Hell, it would probably be a feat to find an X-Man with at least 20 appearances who hasn't had at least one costume change.
Did Cecilia Reyes have more than the blue and gold costume? She spent most of her appearances in civvies, didn't she?
yes, she did; she wore an old costume of the wasp's on a mission (x-men 75) but usually she just wore normal clothes.
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 05:12 PM
How about the Black Cat? Her costume stays pretty consistent.
Doesn't really fit the initial criteria, in that she's kind of a villain, doesn't have her own book/major player in a team book (at least not until this year, and I wish she wasn't in it). She has had at least one major in-continuity costume change, losing the fur on her boobies and getting black boots instead of white. And there's the Linser redesign, but I don't think that counts as canon. Her boots were rejiggered a bit for H4H as well, getting a more sneaker-ish appearance.
Blake Petit
04-17-2007, 05:12 PM
How about the Black Cat? Her costume stays pretty consistent.
Black Cat has had at least one major costume change, the "gold shoulders & ponytail" look she sported circa the "Missing in Action" series. She's also had lots of minor changes, mostly relating to the amount of cleavage the artist wants to draw.
streator
04-17-2007, 05:17 PM
i just thought of a winner:
penance, from generation x.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_%28Marvel_Comics%29
i think she's only had 1 look (not counting all of the m/twins/m-plate crap).
Joe Acro
04-17-2007, 05:19 PM
What about if you go by simply people named "Maverick"? Ignore Bolt and Agent Zero for the moment. Was Bolt's rendition of the costume much different from Christoph's?
Ogrebear
04-17-2007, 05:37 PM
Since the shape changing does not count then I nominate: Slapstick!!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Slapstickmu0.png
Alternatively James MacDonald Hudson as Guardian:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/images/c/c9/Guardian1_main.jpg
streator
04-17-2007, 05:38 PM
What about if you go by simply people named "Maverick"? Ignore Bolt and Agent Zero for the moment. Was Bolt's rendition of the costume much different from Christoph's?
maverick had at least 2 different looks not counting bolt and agent zero.
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/52523416196.1.GIF
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/maverick/maverick1.jpg
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 05:54 PM
Since the shape changing does not count then I nominate: Slapstick!!
I don't think anyone said shape changing didn't count, but in this case, lack of appearances does. A debut mini really doesn't cut it.
Alternatively James MacDonald Hudson as Guardian:
This one gets tricky, just because figuring out who is James, a cyborg, an alternate timline clone replacement, whatever, gets confusing. But there have been a few modifications to the costume. Mostly alterations to the mask, if there is any red in it. This one, for instance.
http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/thumb/9/98/AlphaFlight2.jpg/392px-AlphaFlight2.jpg
Dark Ben
04-17-2007, 05:57 PM
Tigra's only ever had one costume, unless you count her days as the Cat and the addition of the tail as costume changes. :)
Namor's only had two costumes that I can recall- his speedo and the regal black-winged looking thing. (Possibly a third, if you consider that the mysterious and unidentified armored person from the Atlantis Attacks! storyline may have been Namor. Actually, come to think of it, he may have worn a form of Atlantean armor once, too...)
Back in the Forties Namor got two or three Costumes (a superman-like costume for example) and went over several Costume changes (even his trunk changed a lot)
and for the thread I suggest Radioactive man, Mantis, Monica Rambeau, Starfox, Marrina, Firebird and the Shroud
oneasian
04-17-2007, 06:04 PM
the Hulk!
the only thing that ever really changed was his skin color and when he wore a suit for a bit during the Mr. Fixit period
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8013/ironfist4pa1.th.png (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist4pa1.png)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1642/ironfist3lo3.png
With his new ongoing series, Iron Fist had a new costume change.
he actually first got that change in Bendis Daredevil.
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 06:37 PM
the Hulk!
the only thing that ever really changed was his skin color and when he wore a suit for a bit during the Mr. Fixit period
If you don't count that jump suit get up he wore in the Pantheon, the Planet Hulk armor, the underwear period, War Hulk, and the pink bunny slippers.
StoneGold
04-17-2007, 06:47 PM
Almost forgot this outfit. Kind of wish I had.
http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/198/4480/640/hulk404b.jpg
Cthulhudrew
04-17-2007, 07:28 PM
How about the Black Cat? Her costume stays pretty consistent.
Stonegold mentioned a couple of changes, but there was also the brief one she had when she beat Sabretooth with the weird spiky shoulder pads.
creaky
04-17-2007, 07:31 PM
Nightcrawler has had several distinct looks as well, including his classic Cockrum look that has maintained use for the most part, his poncho/nearly in his undies look he sported with a shaved head and goatee during the aforementioned Pacheco/Ellis run, the armor he wore during the X-Men "Revoltuion" relaunch when Claremont first returned to the X-Books, his two New X-Men era looks and his more recent Alan Davis designed costume, that has many similarities to the original, but is different enough to be considered a new costume, with the lack of pointy shoulders and the X emblem present on his chest.
I loved the costume he got straight after having been shot with a crossbow bolt in the back: a big, fat X on his chest.
Smokeyjay
04-17-2007, 11:13 PM
Has anyone said Gambit?
I've always remembered him in that trenchcoat thingy since the early 90s.
Damn I backtracked and someone did say it/
Neptunicus
04-18-2007, 08:37 AM
Another interesting question is: Who is wearing the outfit they first appeared in? Magneto is basically now wearing the outfit he first appeared in right(?), Depending on what issue he is in Wolverine sometimes wears his original outfit - although the mask changed a bit from his first appearance....
EC1231
04-18-2007, 10:56 AM
Sasquatch? Big, furry, and orange since day 1...
Joe Acro
04-18-2007, 10:58 AM
Sasquatch? Big, furry, and orange since day 1...Well, there was the white period, when he was in Snowbird's body.
Well, there was the white period, when he was in Snowbird's body.
Hasn't he also changed in size on some occasions?
StoneGold
04-18-2007, 11:35 AM
Hasn't he also changed in size on some occasions?
He grew breasts for a while...
Joe Acro
04-18-2007, 03:46 PM
Did Deathlok ever change costumes?
Sasquatch? Big, furry, and orange since day 1...
Not really:
Sasquatch (Tanaraq's body)
Box II
Sasquatch II (Snowbird's body)
Cthulhudrew
04-18-2007, 04:01 PM
Oh, oh! How about Machine Man?
StoneGold
04-18-2007, 04:02 PM
Oh, oh! How about Machine Man?
Depends, do you count future versions? But at the very least, he had the major change in NextWave.
phantom1592
04-18-2007, 04:05 PM
Darkhawks only had the two, one of which has thankfully been forgotten. He's back in the body he started with.
KrymynalChylde
04-18-2007, 04:20 PM
I'm sure it's been said already but Thanos and, not marvel, Darkseid have also stayed more or less consistent with their costumes.
StoneGold
04-18-2007, 04:24 PM
I'm sure it's been said already but Thanos and, not marvel, Darkseid have also stayed more or less consistent with their costumes.
You apparently haven't seen the whole maskless toga look on Thanos.
Novaya Havoc
04-18-2007, 04:29 PM
Another interesting question is: Who is wearing the outfit they first appeared in? Magneto is basically now wearing the outfit he first appeared in right(?), Depending on what issue he is in Wolverine sometimes wears his original outfit - although the mask changed a bit from his first appearance....
DAZZLER! Well... in Marvel Zombies. And Deadpool #67. And, like, X-Men 200 cover, and like... in my heart.
I don't believe in New Excalibur Dazzler.
Ogrebear
04-18-2007, 04:32 PM
Hows about John Jamerson in his Man-wolf/Stargod persona?
Only really 2 costumes:
http://www.samruby.com/Villains/ManWolf/ManwolfHowl.gif
THe Ripped threads look
And:
http://www.comicmonsters.com/CMimages/manwolf.jpg
The Intelligent Stargod look
As seen recently in She-Hulk
http://webhome.idirect.com/~twessner/man-wolf/images/stargod001.jpg
Joe Acro
04-18-2007, 04:33 PM
Oh, oh! How about Machine Man?
Well, there was that whole X-51 thing...
DAZZLER! Well... in Marvel Zombies. And Deadpool #67. And, like, X-Men 200 cover, and like... in my heart.
Four distinct costume changes:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/22537903346.1.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/22537903346.39.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.244.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/56649924937.5.GIF
I don't believe in New Excalibur Dazzler.
Denial is a river in Egypt.
Shyft
04-18-2007, 05:02 PM
This thread is meant to be about the LEAST number of changes, not who hasnt had any changes. :P Id say Nightcrawler has to be up there. He has used the Black body suit with the Red Chest bit (with various asthetic changes) for the largest part of his career i think.
StoneGold
04-18-2007, 05:02 PM
Hows about John Jamerson in his Man-wolf/Stargod persona?
Only really 2 costumes:
THe Ripped threads look
And:
The Intelligent Stargod look
As seen recently in She-Hulk
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Doesn't fit the regular character criteria.
StoneGold
04-18-2007, 05:09 PM
This thread is meant to be about the LEAST number of changes, not who hasnt had any changes. :P Id say Nightcrawler has to be up there. He has used the Black body suit with the Red Chest bit (with various asthetic changes) for the largest part of his career i think.
You're forgetting a whole bunch. Go back through the thread. They're listed.
In any case, it still doesn't beat Blackbolt's none (if you're ignoring the crown, and since he didn't even take his mask off for it, I am) and Surfer losing the cosmic boxer shorts.
Although I think Cloak and Dagger might fit the criteria. The closest Dagger's come to a costume change is a slight artistic design on her boobies for a more all-ages book by a Japanese artist, so whether you want to count that as an official change is debatable. And the closest Cloak has come, IIRC, is the occasional facial hair.
Shyft
04-18-2007, 05:14 PM
You're forgetting a whole bunch. Go back through the thread. They're listed.
In any case, it still doesn't beat Blackbolt's none (if you're ignoring the crown, and since he didn't even take his mask off for it, I am) and Surfer losing the cosmic boxer shorts.
Although I think Cloak and Dagger might fit the criteria. The closest Dagger's come to a costume change is a slight artistic design on her boobies for a more all-ages book by a Japanese artist, so whether you want to count that as an official change is debatable. And the closest Cloak has come, IIRC, is the occasional facial hair.
The only one i saw was of him in New Excalibur ( i think). Anyway as you say it doesnt beat Black Bolt.
RonnieThunderbolts
04-18-2007, 06:37 PM
You're forgetting a whole bunch. Go back through the thread. They're listed.
In any case, it still doesn't beat Blackbolt's none (if you're ignoring the crown, and since he didn't even take his mask off for it, I am) and Surfer losing the cosmic boxer shorts.
Although I think Cloak and Dagger might fit the criteria. The closest Dagger's come to a costume change is a slight artistic design on her boobies for a more all-ages book by a Japanese artist, so whether you want to count that as an official change is debatable. And the closest Cloak has come, IIRC, is the occasional facial hair.
The design was only slightly more different than you make it out to be. The changes in Runaways were to BOTH Cloak and Dagger, with Cloak losing the signature black stripes on his cloak to leave it solid blue, and as you say, the facial hair, so his is barely different. Dagger's costume is essentially the same, yes, but it is different in that her face-marking, half circle/crescent shape design is gone, a collar is added, the neckalce is missing and the leggings have a more track-suit look with seperate boots/shoes and a pant-like ending, instead of a solid body suit. Its as different as she's ever gotten, and its mostly the same, but it isn't the same exact costume.
The Iron Fist
04-18-2007, 06:47 PM
he actually first got that change in Bendis Daredevil.
Yeah I know. And Brubaker and Fraction decided to bring back that look and use it as Iron Fist's new suit for his ongoing series. Totally awesome.
Cthulhudrew
04-18-2007, 08:36 PM
Whoops- double post.
Cthulhudrew
04-18-2007, 08:37 PM
You apparently haven't seen the whole maskless toga look on Thanos.
Or the farmer Ted look, though that may just count as civvies and not a costume.
Plus, he sometimes went pantless in the early days, showing off his manly purple legs.
Wessner
04-18-2007, 08:51 PM
[Man-Wolf] doesn't fit the regular character criteria.
Sure he does. The criteria was for the character to have had a starring role in a book. Man-Wolf was the star of Creatures on the Loose from issue #30-37.
mattx110
04-18-2007, 08:57 PM
he's not much of a lead character, but has the answer changed much?
you'd think when the concept behind you as a character is the ability to adopt to every situation, you'd have more than one costume.
Berkey
04-18-2007, 11:00 PM
what about black bolt? if no one mentioned him yet
StoneGold
04-18-2007, 11:11 PM
Sure he does. The criteria was for the character to have had a starring role in a book. Man-Wolf was the star of Creatures on the Loose from issue #30-37.
Yeah, and Captain Ultra starred in some MCP, but doesn't count, either. When I say star in a book, I mean the book is theirs.
Jessica Drew
04-18-2007, 11:19 PM
How 'bout this fella:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/godzilla1.gif
StoneGold
04-18-2007, 11:57 PM
How 'bout this fella:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/godzilla1.gif
Basically falls under the villain category.
twilight
04-19-2007, 12:18 AM
what about black bolt? if no one mentioned him yet
Check out the third post in the thread mon frere.
StoneGold
04-19-2007, 12:31 AM
Check out the third post in the thread mon frere.
Yeah, but it could be worse. He could have said Nightcrawler again.
Jerry W. Loper
04-19-2007, 08:09 AM
One of the Ronin threads got me thinking, what Marvel hero has had the least number of costume changes? For the sake of argument, we're going to have to limit this to characters who have had a starring role in a book. I think accepting major team book players is OK, but, for instance, Captain Ultra wouldn't, just because he hasn't had enough appearances to bother changing his costume.
Greer Nelson's only had 1 or 2 costumes depending on if you consider original Cat and Tigra different personas.
Cat - yellow & blue catsuit
Tigra - black bikini
Neptunicus
04-19-2007, 08:59 AM
No sure what ever happened to this guy but he had his own book for awhilehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/DevilDinosaur_2.jpg
but he isn't a major character anymore so he falls in the same category as Rom...
No sure what ever happened to this guy but he had his own book for awhilehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/DevilDinosaur_2.jpg
but he isn't a major character anymore so he falls in the same category as Rom...
Nextwave #12 gave Devil Dinosaur the greatest costume change ever.
Neptunicus
04-19-2007, 09:03 AM
Also you never saw much of a change with most of the Micronauts (other than Rand) everyonce in awhile Acroyear would take off his helmet or be seen wearing a mumu but those were his lounging clothes.
First Issue of Micronauts....
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/53491064630.1.gif
Last appearnace....
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/53492996064.20.gif
Plus they keep threatening to make it back into the 616 world (even though I have no idea how they could retcon their deaths in a sensible manner)...
Neptunicus
04-19-2007, 09:04 AM
Nextwave #12 gave Devil Dinosaur the greatest costume change ever.
I missed that issue - I'll have to check it out.....
Heh.....but I found this at Wikipedia about that appearance and it sounds awesome
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Heroes for Hire #9-10 (April - May 2007): The Heroes for Hire mercenaries go on a mission to retrieve the apparently uneaten Moon-Boy from the Savage Land and encounter Devil Dinosaur in the process.[2] Exactly how this will be reconciled with Devil's appearance in Nextwave remains to be seen."
Joe Acro
04-19-2007, 10:55 AM
No one's going to answer my Deathlok question? I've always seen him in the same outfit, but I don't have a lot of experience with the character.
The Punished
04-19-2007, 11:28 AM
Ka-Zar....
Has he changed his loincloth any time?
Neptunicus
04-19-2007, 11:33 AM
No one's going to answer my Deathlok question? I've always seen him in the same outfit, but I don't have a lot of experience with the character.
There have been several different people in the Deathlok role. Luther Manning and John Kelly were caucasian Michael Collin is african american. That aspect contributes to a bit of comesitc differences. There are also quite a few other - albeit smaller - changes to the Deathlok "outfit".
Luther Manning Deathlok:
http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/d_1d/deathlok.gif
Michael Collins Deathlok:
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/9/9f/Deathlok%28Collins%29_Head.jpg
I missed that issue - I'll have to check it out.....
Heh.....but I found this at Wikipedia about that appearance and it sounds awesome
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"Nextwave #12 (March 2007): Devil Dinosaur is revealed to be the head of two organizations with ties to terrorism, the Beyond Corporation© and S.I.L.E.N.T., both which he created due to his growing hatred of "monkeys". Devil is depicted for the first time as having the power of speech and he claims to have eaten Moon-Boy, who "tasted bad and gave me considerable rectal distress."
Heroes for Hire #9-10 (April - May 2007): The Heroes for Hire mercenaries go on a mission to retrieve the apparently uneaten Moon-Boy from the Savage Land and encounter Devil Dinosaur in the process.[2] Exactly how this will be reconciled with Devil's appearance in Nextwave remains to be seen."
Since the Nextwave DD stuff makes no frikkin' sense, it will probably be ignored continuity-wise (as should the entire Nextwave series, if you ask me.)
Berkey
04-19-2007, 12:26 PM
what about....................
slap stick
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/slapstick1.jpg
Gladiator
http://www.heroicworld.com/images/archetypes/image048.jpg
Cloak and Dagger
http://lucianovecchio.dreamers.com/cloakdagger.jpg
Black Panther I mean he has that new armor he puts on but his true costume
http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/4/4d/Bpanther.jpg
Berkey
04-19-2007, 12:27 PM
War Path
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Thunderbirdx.png
Guardian
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/3/3e/250px-Alpha_flight_89_guardian.jpg
Sasquatch
http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/s_1d/sasquatch.jpg
Arachne
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/48/Juliacarpenter.jpg/275px-Juliacarpenter.jpg
streator
04-19-2007, 12:37 PM
you're bringing up a lot of characters that have already been talked about in this thread.
as per warpath, he's had at least 9 different costumes (including his current look):
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=110&page=7
Blake Petit
04-19-2007, 03:47 PM
Arachne's costume is a modified version of her old Spider-Woman suit... Cloak and Dagger is a good call, though. I can't think of any significant changes to either of them. Unless you're counting when Dagger had short hair.
The Iron Fist
04-20-2007, 08:30 PM
Edit, wrong pic.
The Iron Fist
04-20-2007, 08:34 PM
Here's a shot of Iron Fist's new suit, from the Immortal Iron Fist #5 preview:
http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/999new_storyimage6994821_full.jpg
It's a great update from his original suit, and still keeps true to it.
jcp011c
04-21-2007, 12:32 AM
Hellcat.
She had her yellow outfit w/ blue mask, and her civilian outfit at Patsy Walker. And she also starred in her own mini somewhere around 1999-2001, too lazy to get my hands on it at the moment. Granted I could be totally missing a huge part of it, since I never read the Defenders...so someone feel free to nix this one if I'm wrong.
Web of Fear
04-21-2007, 01:03 AM
Surfer has worns undies in the past and not worn undies in the past and early Galactus didn't wear pants. I'm not kidding. He also had a big G on his chest and has some other subtle changes over time....
http://www.cosmiccomix.com/comics/SilverSurfer/BigG.jpg
If Galactus was going commando, anyone standing underneath him looking up would have got a shock. :eek:
Blake Petit
04-21-2007, 10:54 AM
Hellcat has had at least two looks.
Classic:
http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/2/25/Hellcat_001.gif
Alternate:
http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/c/c5/Hellcat_003.jpg
Cthulhudrew
04-21-2007, 03:08 PM
Hellcat has had at least two looks.
Only two still puts her up there near the top of the list, though.
I don't think Darkhawk has had many, either. I know he had two specific looks, and arguably his design has been changed through artist preference/error for a new norm (a softer look, I believe), but I don't think he had any more. And he did have his own book for quite a while, plus recently he's been in Runaways, MTU and now the Loners.
phantom1592
04-24-2007, 02:44 PM
I don't think Darkhawk has had many, either. I know he had two specific looks, and arguably his design has been changed through artist preference/error for a new norm (a softer look, I believe), but I don't think he had any more. And he did have his own book for quite a while, plus recently he's been in Runaways, MTU and now the Loners.
Yeah, Darkhawk only had two. The others are simply artist interpretation. The one in the Loners, is almost spitting image of his original.
wingsofdamnation
04-25-2007, 12:56 PM
i would say punisher. the only time i'v seen a change in costume was when he went from silver gloves/boots to black. unless you count Punisher MAX series where he is in a punisher shirt and plain black pants
The Punished
04-25-2007, 08:20 PM
UMMM, yeah, I am going with Ka-Zar!
StoneGold
04-25-2007, 08:59 PM
i would say punisher. the only time i'v seen a change in costume was when he went from silver gloves/boots to black. unless you count Punisher MAX series where he is in a punisher shirt and plain black pants
Go back some. You forgot when he was an angel, when he had armor, when he was black...
Captain Shady
04-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Daredevil.
Black Panther.
Elektra.
Madison Carter
04-25-2007, 11:41 PM
Uh, I haven't read this whole thread, but there's a major factor that got in the way of this... about 1985 or so...when Jim Shooter and the lawyers at Marvel started worrying that he might sue over ownership of the characters that Marvel Comics was publishing and making their daily bread upon.
Though it was disguised as "Marvel Characters Grow and Change", what was happening was characters were all being altered into a different forms.
Think about it... every Marvel comics hero underwent a significant change...
Iron Man, silver armor
Hulk, broke leg, and then when Grey... got intellegence
Thor, scared and grew beard, along with armor.
Daredevil, gained armor
She-Hulk, wore a costume
Spiderman, switched to black offit
FF, trading in Blue or black outfits...
Avengers led by new leaders...
USAGent takes over for Cap.
Cap America becomes The Captain...
Submariner dons a black webed outfit
It was a move to protect the company from a suit that never materialized.
So, who has had the least changes? I'd guess it was either the Hulk in those torn purple shorts, or the FF in sublte navy Blue or black outfits. Maybe the Thing in his blue shorts and orange scales.
But Thor was pretty stead for years...and Cap was always coming back to his classic images too.
I Thing I've said enough...
Total myth. If there was a potential lawsuit, a change of outfit wouldn't have saved a single one of those characters (see: Boy, Super). I've never understood where this thing even came from.
Shooter just liked change is all. He liked to switch things up a little. The fact that the Sub-Mariner costume mentioned above occured in the 70s, way before Shooter, or that the Iron Man costume was just another in a long, long line of changes couldn't possibly excuse this old rumor, could they?
I can only imagine what the readers in 60s thought when Daredevil went from brown & yellow to red, Iron Man ditched the gold armor, Hulk went from gray to green and Henry Pym changed identities every five panels.
Madison Carter
04-25-2007, 11:46 PM
Black Cat has had at least one major costume change, the "gold shoulders & ponytail" look she sported circa the "Missing in Action" series. She's also had lots of minor changes, mostly relating to the amount of cleavage the artist wants to draw.
Not to mention the "bat" masked version that she adopted shortly after the ponytail thing as well as the one from the Claws mini. Not counting minor modifications on her classic suit (more or less fur, cleavage, mask styles), that makes four.
Cthulhudrew
04-26-2007, 09:50 AM
UMMM, yeah, I am going with Ka-Zar!
At least two- the traditional loincloth look, and then the blue pants and gloves with boots look he sported in his most recent series.
StoneGold
04-26-2007, 11:18 AM
Not to mention the "bat" masked version that she adopted shortly after the ponytail thing as well as the one from the Claws mini. Not counting minor modifications on her classic suit (more or less fur, cleavage, mask styles), that makes four.
Claws wasn non-continuity, so I'm not sure that actually counts.
StoneGold
04-26-2007, 11:20 AM
I can only imagine what the readers in 60s thought when Daredevil went from brown & yellow to red, Iron Man ditched the gold armor, Hulk went from gray to green and Henry Pym changed identities every five panels.
Hulk, probably nothing, because it changed in the second issue. Iron Man already had a costume change prior to the Ditko costume. And no one liked Ant-Man.
Daredevil, definitely though.
Joe Acro
04-26-2007, 11:22 AM
Has Puck's costume ever changed?
Or Shaman's?
StoneGold
04-26-2007, 11:32 AM
Has Puck's costume ever changed?
Or Shaman's?
It's hard to say with Alpha Flight, because some of them end up being fakes and clones and stuff, and I'm never sure which ones. I know there was at least a Puck with a different costume.
Joe Acro
04-26-2007, 11:39 AM
It's hard to say with Alpha Flight, because some of them end up being fakes and clones and stuff, and I'm never sure which ones. I know there was at least a Puck with a different costume.I know his daughter had a different costume, but I can't think of any glaring changes to his outfit. I found an FAQ that states he's had at least four different costumes.
Cthulhudrew
04-26-2007, 11:41 AM
Has Puck's costume ever changed?
He's had at least three that I know of- traditional blue puck, a red and white version of that outfit (fully body- no hairy legs or arms showing) when AF went with a "team theme" at one point, and a version he wore post-Black Raazer with all kinds of utility pouches and things.
Or Shaman's?
At least twice- the orange and green one, and a Walt Simonson designed black and white outfit.
[EDIT- Another one I forgot for Shaman was the Infinity War/Crusade era all black thingy, and Puck's traditional blues had legless and pant versions. Just do a quick Google images search for Puck Alpha Flight and you'll see pretty much all of the variants on the first page.]
wingsofdamnation
04-26-2007, 12:34 PM
Go back some. You forgot when he was an angel, when he had armor, when he was black...
woah never saw punisher like that before. got any pics?
Or Shaman's?
Shaman's costume changed when he took on the powers of Talisman, becoming Talisman II.
StoneGold
04-26-2007, 03:00 PM
woah never saw punisher like that before. got any pics?
Some are in this thread. Go back a bit. But here's the armor.
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/65894733778.34.GIF
And here is Frank's angelic look.
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/65898596646.1.GIF
And here he is with a really stupid looking pony tail.
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/65896665212.6.GIF
Madison Carter
04-26-2007, 09:10 PM
Claws was non-continuity
Actually, it is.
StoneGold
04-26-2007, 09:19 PM
Actually, it is.
Not unless they changed something. That's the whole reason it was a Marvel Knights book. The new Marvel Knights, not the old one.
Madison Carter
04-27-2007, 04:15 AM
Like most of the other labels (MAX, etc.) some of the titles are in-continuity, some aren't. Claws is. We had to deal with it in regards to not only the Arcade entry we did a couple of months back, but the Black Cat and White Rabbit entries in this month's upcoming OHOTMU Update #2 as well.
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