Wh40k Orks vs Marvel Earth.

[JuggernautRM]

Imagine that all the wh40k orks gathered in a massive waagh......and traveled through a time warp to the marvel earth. Will Earth be able to survive.

[Adam Safran]

Marvel Earth considers it a 'Tuesday'.

Strange dumps them into another reality, Reed makes a machine that teleports them to the furthest corners of the universe, Sentry kills several thousand of them each minute, Hulk vaporizes them...

[Nik Hasta]

Marvel Earth considers it a 'Tuesday'.

Strange dumps them into another reality, Reed makes a machine that teleports them to the furthest corners of the universe, Sentry kills several thousand of them each minute, Hulk vaporizes them...

I don't know, there are HUGE numbers of Orcs, several of which can mind-rape/explode people with the WAAAARGH!! and they constantly get bigger and stronger the more adrenaline they feel.

Unless Marvel Earth reacts VERY quickly this could get very bad very fast.

[Adam Safran]

I don't know, there are HUGE numbers of Orcs, several of which can mind-rape/explode people with the WAAAARGH!! and they constantly get bigger and stronger the more adrenaline they feel.

Unless Marvel Earth reacts VERY quickly this could get very bad very fast.

And they do react very, very quickly. Between Wanda and Strange, Reed and Doom, Sentry, or the uper-paths of the X-Men.

[Nik Hasta]

And they do react very, very quickly. Between Wanda and Strange, Reed and Doom, Sentry, or the uper-paths of the X-Men.

This is all the Orcs from WH40K.

All of them.

That's millions maybe even billions of Orcs just dropping out of the sky.

Not to mention as soon as they arrive they are going to start spreading spores, especially if they're killed.

Also a single Orc is damn tough, being huge, freakishly strong and having awesome regen:


This also makes it extremely difficult to rid a planet of Orks, even if the initial invasion is defeated. Orks release spores throughout their lives, but release them particularly at the moment of death; to prevent this you must decapitate them shortly after killing them (within, as said in the Fifteen Hours novel, around seven hours, as the battle took around five hours, and Bulaven mentioned they would start walking around again in two hours) and then burn their bodies and heads (Scanlon, 2005).

With billions of these things running around the Marvel Earth, the heroes are going to have a damn hard time stopping them.

Besides when has Strange dimension dumped an entire species?

When has Reed made a machine that could teleport and entire species?

And telepaths might not even be able to effect the Orcs in a big group as they'll have to contend with getting in touch with the combined WAAAAGH!! of several million Orcs, which is not going to do their mind any good.

[KingEli]

Sentry can win this by himself. He moves one second faster than everybody. He's WAY FTL. He can blitz everybody.

[Cognitive Genome]

Every single Ork? All of them!?

Sure, Strange and Sentry can curbstomp pretty much anything in 40k, but when you drop all of them on there, that's not billions...you're facing quadrillions to quintillions of Orks. The only thing that outnumber them are the Tyranids, who reach the Trillions range in single Hive Fleets alone.

Dunno if the Earth can handle that much Ork being dropped on it XD

[Nik Hasta]

Every single Ork? All of them!?

Sure, Strange and Sentry can curbstomp pretty much anything in 40k, but when you drop all of them on there, that's not billions...you're facing quadrillions to quintillions of Orks. The only thing that outnumber them are the Tyranids, who reach the Trillions range in single Hive Fleets alone.

Dunno if the Earth can handle that much Ork being dropped on it XD

That's my point.

The only reason the Orcs haven't conquered the WH40K Universe is because it is their natural inclination to fight amongst themselves in a big way.

Marvel will eventually be able to curb the Orc attack but not without 1) Taking heavy casualties civilian and hero alike and 2) Having to deal with millions of Feral Orcs popping up a couple of years later having had so many orcs giving off spores as they die.

[Lord of Nonsensical Crap]

If it was just a big Ork WAAAAGH, then Marvel Earth would definitely stand a chance, but....ALL of Orkdom? Every single friggin Greenskin from a galaxy that is teeming with the green gits? Wow, Earth is screwed.

Earth's best chance would be to take out most of the Ork ships in orbit, though some will still doubtlessly get through. When that happens, they'll have to start breaking out plot devices really, really fast.

That said, I'd love to see the Hulk battle a horde of Orks. Greenskin vs. Greenskins! Heck, with his green skin, dimwittedness and love of smashing things, they'd probably make him an honourary Ork.

[Nik Hasta]

If it was just a big Ork WAAAAGH, then Marvel Earth would definitely stand a chance, but....ALL of Orkdom? Every single friggin Greenskin from a galaxy that is teeming with the green gits? Wow, Earth is screwed.

Earth's best chance would be to take out most of the Ork ships in orbit, though some will still doubtlessly get through. When that happens, they'll have to start breaking out plot devices really, really fast.

That said, I'd love to see the Hulk battle a horde of Orks. Greenskin vs. Greenskins! Heck, with his green skin, dimwittedness and love of smashing things, they'd probably make him an honourary Ork.

Forget honourary Orc, they'd make him a Warboss, no question.

Hulk's physiology even works something like an Orcs with the constantly expanding strength. Planet Hulk!Hulk is smart and strong enough to probably become supreme Warboss or something.

[mud]

ah thers an image the hulk leding all of orkdom to give iron man and friends da stomping of a life time, oh and WWWAAAAAGGGGHHHHH.

[Lord of Nonsensical Crap]

Forget honourary Orc, they'd make him a Warboss, no question.

Hulk's physiology even works something like an Orcs with the constantly expanding strength. Planet Hulk!Hulk is smart and strong enough to probably become supreme Warboss or something.

Heh, I can just imagine it now. "HULK SMASH PUNY IMPERIUM!"

[Arilou]

If it was just a big Ork WAAAAGH, then Marvel Earth would definitely stand a chance, but....ALL of Orkdom? Every single friggin Greenskin from a galaxy that is teeming with the green gits? Wow, Earth is screwed.

Earth's best chance would be to take out most of the Ork ships in orbit, though some will still doubtlessly get through. When that happens, they'll have to start breaking out plot devices really, really fast.

That said, I'd love to see the Hulk battle a horde of Orks. Greenskin vs. Greenskins! Heck, with his green skin, dimwittedness and love of smashing things, they'd probably make him an honourary Ork.

Heck, it is very possible the weight of all those orcs would permanently shift the orbit of the Earth...

[Rei-Kai]

Oh please, the Ork numbers are utterly exagerated, and they stand no chance on Marvel Earth. If Strange doesn't take them all out by himself, then you know Doom will, and so will Apocalypse, Nate Grey, the X-Men, Franklin Richards, Fantastic Four, X-Force, X-Factor, Alpha Flight, The Avengers, West Coast Avengers, Great Lakes Avengers, SHIELD, the Eternals, and millions of other mutants.

[KnownAsWilf]

Aren't Ork genes fairly adaptive? Let loose on Marvel Earth they're bound to throw up a few "Super-Orks".

Graznok Garker was an ordinary Ork until he was bitten by a radioactive Squig. Now he has the proportional strength and abilities of a Squig.

Radnaz was an ordinary Ork until he stumbled across the Chopper of the god Mork, which transformed him into the avatar of Mork.

While flying toward Earth the crew of the Ork Hulk "MorksBoyz" were hit by a wave of Cosmic radiation. Crashlanding on Earth the four survivors found they had amazing new powers.

Etc.

[Nik Hasta]

Oh please, the Ork numbers are utterly exagerated, and they stand no chance on Marvel Earth. If Strange doesn't take them all out by himself, then you know Doom will, and so will Apocalypse, Nate Grey, the X-Men, Franklin Richards, Fantastic Four, X-Force, X-Factor, Alpha Flight, The Avengers, West Coast Avengers, Great Lakes Avengers, SHIELD, the Eternals, and millions of other mutants.

Funny thing is we're not exaggerating.

The Orcs outnumber every other race in WH40K by a HUGE margin. The Tyranids are the only race that comes close but their numbers are barely ever fixed.

There are literally billions of them, all linked by the WAAAARGH!! and willing to fight anything that moves and even several things that don't move.

And: what millions of other mutants? Did the 198 thing get retconned already?

[girder]

Aren't Ork genes fairly adaptive? Let loose on Marvel Earth they're bound to throw up a few "Super-Orks".

Graznok Garker was an ordinary Ork until he was bitten by a radioactive Squig. Now he has the proportional strength and abilities of a Squig.

Radnaz was an ordinary Ork until he stumbled across the Chopper of the god Mork, which transformed him into the avatar of Mork.

While flying toward Earth the crew of the Ork Hulk "MorksBoyz" were hit by a wave of Cosmic radiation. Crashlanding on Earth the four survivors found they had amazing new powers.

Etc.

I would so pay for a crossover like that...

[SAMAS]

Oh please, the Ork numbers are utterly exagerated, and they stand no chance on Marvel Earth.

No, they're not. Hell, the Imperium itself is said to have trillions of Imperial Guardsmen alone. Orks outnumber all other races in the galaxy at the same time. Humans, Eldar, Tau, Demiurg, Kroot, even, for the most part, Tyranids.

And every single one of them is capable of going to war. The only reason they haven't steamrollered the other races is because they're just as happy fighting each other as they are everybody else. Hell, read the Deff Skwadron books, and you'll see that they fight even harder against each other.

[Xero Kaiser]

The only reason they haven't steamrollered the other races is because they're just as happy fighting each other as they are everybody else.

That and the fact that they're spread all across the galaxy.

But all of the Orks? Focused on one target? Just teleporting in out of nowhere? Earth is torn to shreds in a matter of hours, if that. They could literally blanket the earth several times over with their sheer numbers. And these guys are constantly releasing spores, so you've got untold amounts of Orks spawning even more orks. And then they've got some tech, psykers and beasts like Squiggoths on top of that, not to mention how tough each individual Ork is.

[Lord of Nonsensical Crap]

I would so pay for a crossover like that...

Seconded!:D

[Rei-Kai]

Still not seeing anything that keeps them from being instantly vaporized and slaughtered by the likes of the Eternals, Thor, Sentry, Strange, etc etc etc. Few dozen people at least can blitz-slaughter the Orks and/or vaporize them instantly on sight. Have others that can mind rape and others that can turn the Orks into fruitpies. Within the hour Reed or Doom will have concocted a virus that kills off the Orks. If humans and dwarves can kill Orks with midevil weapons, what the hell do you think a couple hundred thousand super-powered beings can do? not to mention the mass number of mutants and cosmicly powered beings who sit around on Earth with nothing better to do.

[Jmacq1]

Yeah, if we're talking the entirety of Orkdom landing on Earth, well....they'll rapidly have covered every square inch of habitable land on the planet, and still have trillions in reserve and their fleets fully manned.

About Marvel's only chance is doing some serious reality-altering/time jumping mumbo-jumbo to prevent the invasion from ever happening in the first place, and even then it'll probably only create an alternate reality.

Some of the uber-powerful can probably kill millions or even billions of Orks, but even by the time they get that done the Orks that were filling in behind those ones will have wiped out humanity and a good chunk of superherodom.

[Jmacq1]

Still not seeing anything that keeps them from being instantly vaporized and slaughtered by the likes of the Eternals, Thor, Sentry, Strange, etc etc etc. Few dozen people at least can blitz-slaughter the Orks and/or vaporize them instantly on sight. Have others that can mind rape and others that can turn the Orks into fruitpies. Within the hour Reed or Doom will have concocted a virus that kills off the Orks. If humans and dwarves can kill Orks with midevil weapons, what the hell do you think a couple hundred thousand super-powered beings can do? not to mention the mass number of mutants and cosmicly powered beings who sit around on Earth with nothing better to do.

Which mass number of mutants? All 198 of them? Most of them are dead inside the first hour.

Your assumption is that Earth has enough time to react. Doom and Richards are too busy trying to keep Orks from filling the Baxter Building and all of Latveria to the brim, because their numbers are coming so fast that it's all they can do to hold them back just a -bit-.

Also: The Orks of WH Fantasy and the Orks of WH40K aren't exactly the same, either.

I don't see anyone in your list that can muster up a blast capable of "vaporizing" what amounts to quintillions of beings all across the planet all at once. You're just not understanding the numbers and sheer mass of life involved here. The Psychics are the ones that get brainfried by the "Waaagh." They're dead or insane inside the first few minutes. Not even Xavier is going to "mindrape" a collective consciousness of quintillions of beings.

Everyone that's capable of "blitzing" or "vaporizing" or whatever is trying to do this while the entire planet is literally getting covered with a seemingly endless stream of Orks....oh, and even if they kill them all they're still giving off spores so they'll just pop up again later.

The only sure-fire option Earth has for Victory is the Illuminati re-gathering the Infinity Gems. And that's assuming they're even capable of doing it without getting killed themselves in the crushing press of Orkdom that's enveloped the Earth.

[KingEli]

Wait..........Doom can just use his Time Platform, goes back in time(Let's say three Months) tell himself to Prepare for then Incoming Invasion and goes back to the point when they invaded and takes them out with his plan.


He saves the world and makes The Heroes look stupid.

[Xero Kaiser]

Still not seeing anything that keeps them from being instantly vaporized and slaughtered by the likes of the Eternals, Thor, Sentry, Strange, etc etc etc. Few dozen people at least can blitz-slaughter the Orks and/or vaporize them instantly on sight.

Who in the bloody hell is capable of speedblitzing trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions of Orks? Or Vape them all at once?


Within the hour Reed or Doom will have concocted a virus that kills off the Orks.

Not with a sea of those things kicking down the front door. How are they developing the virus? They know nothing of Ork biology and they sure as hell aren't going to be able to walk right into millions of Orks ripping everything apart to get a sample


If humans and dwarves can kill Orks with midevil weapons, what the hell do you think a couple hundred thousand super-powered beings can do? not to mention the mass number of mutants and cosmicly powered beings who sit around on Earth with nothing better to do.

Psst...read the title. Warhammer 40k. These guys are rolling in with tech and superpowers of their own and commonly fight guys a hell of a lot tougher than most superheroes/mutants.

[Jmacq1]

Also worth noting that any "Virus" or "chemical agent" designed to kill the Orks isn't going to work for very long. They're incredibly adaptive and would likely gain immunity to it long before the entire Ork race was wiped out.

There's a reason the Imperium of Man hasn't been able to accomplish that very same tactic, in other words.

[Rei-Kai]

You seriously underestimate the power of the guys on Marvel Earth. How durable are the Orks when compared to guys who can bust entire mountain ranges and rip apart planets? Sentry at one point stale-mated Galactus, and you don't just have all the good guys, but every sick SOB Villain too. And there are still guys like Immortus, Kang, Stryfe, etc etc. Thor alone can destroy planets and it'd take nothing out of him to obliterate millions of Orks at a time. Same goes for the Eternals. Zuras is already up there in terms of power with Zeus (Skyfather), and they've got Makkari who can speedblitz death millions of Orks before anyone of them has time to blink.

Hey look, more are raining down out of no-where. Strange says 3-words and *BAM* all the new Orks get shipped off to another dimension to be eaten and raped by giant tenticle monsters. Then Strange activates a curse that drags the Silver Surfer back to Earth, and he goes around vaporizing and obliterating billions of Orks with simplistic ease and can create a dissease or virus to kill off the Orks as well using the Power Cosmic.

Or hell, all the Eternals get together, form the Uni-Mind, and warp reality and re-start time, and the Orks were never there to begin with.

[Arilou]

Rei Kei: Yes, they can take out the orcs.

BUT in doing so they will also destroy Marvel Earth.

There just are that many orcs, anything capable of wiping them all out will inevitably wipe out all other life on Earth as well.

So yeah, the Eternals might do that.... But then they're the only guys left on the planet.

[Jmacq1]

You seriously underestimate the power of the guys on Marvel Earth. How durable are the Orks when compared to guys who can bust entire mountain ranges and rip apart planets? Sentry at one point stale-mated Galactus, and you don't just have all the good guys, but every sick SOB Villain too. And there are still guys like Immortus, Kang, Stryfe, etc etc. Thor alone can destroy planets and it'd take nothing out of him to obliterate millions of Orks at a time. Same goes for the Eternals. Zuras is already up there in terms of power with Zeus (Skyfather), and they've got Makkari who can speedblitz death millions of Orks before anyone of them has time to blink.

Immortus, Kang, and Stryfe are not normally on Marvel Earth/In the present day. Thor is currently "Dead"/inactive. Please provide feats of these characters killing millions of anything in a matter of seconds under normal circumstances. Even speedblitzers are going to slow down a bit when they're literally having to hit BILLIONS of things in succession, many of which are far more durable than a normal human being. Or when they're literally being pressed on all sides by a mass of bodies that numbers in the hundreds of billions. Hard to gain much speed when there's no room to maneuver. You don't seem to get this: You could kill a HUNDRED BILLION Orks and you haven't even killed ONE PERCENT of them.


Hey look, more are raining down out of no-where. Strange says 3-words and *BAM* all the new Orks get shipped off to another dimension to be eaten and raped by giant tenticle monsters. Then Strange activates a curse that drags the Silver Surfer back to Earth, and he goes around vaporizing and obliterating billions of Orks with simplistic ease and can create a dissease or virus to kill off the Orks as well using the Power Cosmic.

Or hell, all the Eternals get together, form the Uni-Mind, and warp reality and re-start time, and the Orks were never there to begin with.

Please provide feats of Strange teleporting away millions/billions of anything without significant prep time and/or unusual power boosts. With scans preferably. You're overstating Strange's power. The Surfer is currently loyal to Galactus. Teleporting him to Earth might make him take the time to help out, or it might send him scurrying back to do his master's bidding. The Uni-Mind requires a bit of concentration and/or ritual to accomplish does it not? When are the Eternals doing to do it while they're busy trying to keep hundreds of billions of Orks from overwhelming and destroying significant portions of their bodies? By the time the Uni-Mind is formed, it's at half-strength or worse.

You're overstating some character's abilities, and completely not understanding the numbers you're dealing with here. Even the speedsters aren't fast enough to keep humanity (at the very least) from being wiped out.

[Rei-Kai]

Strange can close up a blackhole and open up portals to other dimensions without any difficulty at all. And the Eternals forming the Uni-Mind means they can bend time and reality. They can ship off all the Orks to non-existence and re-start time on Earth so that no one even remembers the planet was in danger.

[Arilou]

Strange can close up a blackhole and open up portals to other dimensions without any difficulty at all. .

Yes, he can.

And opening up a black hole will *destroy the earth*.

[Xero Kaiser]

You're overstating some character's abilities, and completely not understanding the numbers you're dealing with here. Even the speedsters aren't fast enough to keep humanity (at the very least) from being wiped out.

Seriously...

here's Earth:
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1826/earthgu1.gif

now here's Earth 3 seconds after the invasion starts
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9363/earth2js0.gif



And that doesn't begin to describe the sheer amount of these things running around. Could a guy like Sentry survive the onslaught? Probably, but there won't be anything left to defend even if he and every other heavy hitter in the Marvel U beat the Orks back. Pretty much anyone who's not Silver Surfer/Sentry or on their level dies damn near instantly

[Jmacq1]

Seriously...

here's Earth:
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1826/earthgu1.gif

now here's Earth 3 seconds after the invasion starts
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1431/earth2oe7.gif


Could a guy like Sentry survive the onslaught? Probably, but there won't be anything left to defend even if he and every other heavy hitter in the Marvel U beat the Orks back

You need to fill in the black spaces as well, because even with Earth completely covered, they'd still have plenty in reserve.

[Arilou]

And it should be green, not orange.

But otherwise, yeah.

[Lord of Nonsensical Crap]

You need to fill in the black spaces as well, because even with Earth completely covered, they'd still have plenty in reserve.

I just had a hilarious mental image of several trillion Orks suddenly finding themselves jammed together on Earth. "Wot da zog?" "Ey, get yer foot outta my face!" "I can't breave!"

[Xero Kaiser]

And it should be green, not orange.

But otherwise, yeah.

I have no idea why that didn't occur to me.

Fixed

[KingEli]

Still what if Doom gets a chance to go back in time and giving MU Earth time to Prepare? That will defenly Switch the Balance to Marvel Earth.

[Arilou]

Still what if Doom gets a chance to go back in time and giving MU Earth time to Prepare? That will defenly Switch the Balance to Marvel Earth.

True, but they still can't override the Plot Gods suddenly making the entire Orc Race appear on the Earth's Surface....

[JonathanMS]

I dont see how any real fight could even occur. Wouldnt all of the Orks falling onto the planet from the sky be the equivalent of the Earth being rammed by a similar sized planet? Marvel might "win" in the sense that guys like Sentry, Hulk and Thor might be able to survive the literal destruction of the planet, but it would redefine the idea of a bitter-sweet victory.

[Nik Hasta]

I just had a hilarious mental image of several trillion Orks suddenly finding themselves jammed together on Earth. "Wot da zog?" "Ey, get yer foot outta my face!" "I can't breave!"

I laughed out loud at this image.

Sig please?

Yep, the Heroes may win but the human race is going to be wiped out within a matter of minutes, especially since Orcs take no prisoners and make no distinction between young, old, sick, male or female.

"'Umanz is 'Umanz and if dere weak den dey die," is pretty much their sentiment.

Why do I get the feeling a lot of the Superheroes are going to get given over to the Medboyz?

Particularly Wolverine.

Another thought; do you think Iron Man will try and get them to register?

[Magneto_X]

Reed or Strange would take a few minutes and rig something up to take the entire Ork infestation out.

Strange has uber-magic while Reed could use a device that exploits the Ork's fungus type dna.

[JuggernautRM]

Let me redefine this rumble for a more specific battle.

Instead of the Hulk travelling to Sakaar, he traveled through a warphole into the WH40k universe and hit smack dab in middle of ork space. In record time he becomes supreme warboss of all orks in the galaxy and leads them through the warp whole that is right outside our solar system, numbering at 5000 trillion, in a fleet of a million space hulks and etc ships. These are orks that have been over grown by the size of the waaaagh being led by the greatest greenskin to live, and know that his seconds in commands are going to be huuuuggeee. Imagine 25 foot tall orks with the strenght around class 50. Hulks main target is marvel earth.

At the same instant Reed Richards finds out about this and realizes that he has only 3 days of prep. So he launches his most powerful plot device, the superhuman reclamation device. This device brings every hero, villian, mutant, and etc fighter that existed in the marvel universe to earth at the same time and evacuates all civilians and makes the earth indestructable for a 3 month period. The only way this device to work tho is for Reed, Doom, and Strange to go to the center of earth to hold the strength of the device. Can the rest of the Marvel Superheroes survive the battle and make sure earth survives 3 months. Or will Hulk win and defeat the marvel superpowers.

[Magneto_X]

Who in the bloody hell is capable of speedblitzing trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions of Orks? Or Vape them all at once?

Silver Surfer (if he's on Earth at the time), the Sentry, post-House of M Quicksilver, Molecule Man etc.

Not with a sea of those things kicking down the front door. How are they developing the virus? They know nothing of Ork biology and they sure as hell aren't going to be able to walk right into millions of Orks ripping everything apart to get a sample


Doom, Reed, Pym, Black Panther (pre-Hudlin), the Beast etc could all do this.

Hell, Doom would make a device that restructures their dna into being his servants. Than he arms them with tech and sends them at the heroes while he pulls another plot device to kill them all since the orks were only a distraction.

[Magneto_X]

There's a reason the Imperium of Man hasn't been able to accomplish that very same tactic, in other words.

The Imperium never had geniuses like Doom and/or Reed on their payroll.

[Magneto_X]

Still what if Doom gets a chance to go back in time and giving MU Earth time to Prepare? That will defenly Switch the Balance to Marvel Earth.

What do you mean "what if"? He has a Time Platform *build-in* to his armour. He just presses a switch and in the next round the orks won't know what's hit them!

[Arilou]

Doom, Reed, Pym, Black Panther (pre-Hudlin), the Beast etc could all do this.

Hell, Doom would make a device that restructures their dna into being his servants. Than he arms them with tech and sends them at the heroes while he pulls another plot device to kill them all since the orks were only a distraction.

Assuming the revised scenario this is doable.

Assuming the original scenario they will be, *quite literally* choked to death by the masses of orcs suddenly covering the surface of the planet earth. Kind of hard to do scientific research when you are crushed beneath tons of green flesh.

[Xero Kaiser]

Let me redefine this rumble for a more specific battle.

Instead of the Hulk travelling to Sakaar, he traveled through a warphole into the WH40k universe and hit smack dab in middle of ork space. In record time he becomes supreme warboss of all orks in the galaxy and leads them through the warp whole that is right outside our solar system, numbering at 5000 trillion, in a fleet of a million space hulks and etc ships. These are orks that have been over grown by the size of the waaaagh being led by the greatest greenskin to live, and know that his seconds in commands are going to be huuuuggeee. Imagine 25 foot tall orks with the strenght around class 50. Hulks main target is marvel earth.

At the same instant Reed Richards finds out about this and realizes that he has only 3 days of prep. So he launches his most powerful plot device, the superhuman reclamation device. This device brings every hero, villian, mutant, and etc fighter that existed in the marvel universe to earth at the same time and evacuates all civilians and makes the earth indestructable for a 3 month period. The only way this device to work tho is for Reed, Doom, and Strange to go to the center of earth to hold the strength of the device. Can the rest of the Marvel Superheroes survive the battle and make sure earth survives 3 months. Or will Hulk win and defeat the marvel superpowers.

If anything, this makes it even worse. We still have trillions and trillions of these guys massing on the planet, and then you spot them The Hulk on top of all that. Not to mention that with their tech, the Orks can (and have) launch asteroids at a planet. So you have a million ships opening up with an orbital bombardment and then the Hulk backed by trillions of Orks popping in a wiping out whoever's left

So basically, the big boys like Sentry survive, but everyone else dies horribly

EDIT: Ahh...nevermind. Everyone who ever existed in the entire Marvel universe? Living Tribunal snaps his fingers and it's over

[JuggernautRM]

High end gods and universal powers out of the question.

[Xero Kaiser]

Then I stand by my original statement

[Pendaran]

If anything, this makes it even worse. We still have trillions and trillions of these guys massing on the planet, and then you spot them The Hulk on top of all that. Not to mention that with their tech, the Orks can (and have) launch asteroids at a planet. So you have a million ships opening up with an orbital bombardment and then the Hulk backed by trillions of Orks popping in a wiping out whoever's left

So basically, the big boys like Sentry survive, but everyone else dies horribly

EDIT: Ahh...nevermind. Everyone who ever existed in the entire Marvel universe? Living Tribunal snaps his fingers and it's over

Reed gives the Silver Surfer the power gem. Or better yet the Space Gem. End.

With three days of prep... honestly. Hell. 3 days of prep, Reed builds an amplifier for Bolt's sonic attack, he screams full bore in the direction of the fleet when they warp in. End.

By the way, I liked the whole "the Sentry /probably/ survives the ork assault". What's one trillion times zero?

[jadehorde]

Oh please, the Ork numbers are utterly exagerated, and they stand no chance on Marvel Earth. If Strange doesn't take them all out by himself, then you know Doom will, and so will Apocalypse, Nate Grey, the X-Men, Franklin Richards, Fantastic Four, X-Force, X-Factor, Alpha Flight, The Avengers, West Coast Avengers, Great Lakes Avengers, SHIELD, the Eternals, and millions of other mutants.

Are there millions of mutants? Even in the Cassandra Nova phase...most sucked.

[jadehorde]

Who in the bloody hell is capable of speedblitzing trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions of Orks? Or Vape them all at once?



Not with a sea of those things kicking down the front door. How are they developing the virus? They know nothing of Ork biology and they sure as hell aren't going to be able to walk right into millions of Orks ripping everything apart to get a sample



Psst...read the title. Warhammer 40k. These guys are rolling in with tech and superpowers of their own and commonly fight guys a hell of a lot tougher than most superheroes/mutants.


To be fair, Doom could given the high level his Bots operate at.

[Magneto_X]

Reed gives the Silver Surfer the power gem. Or better yet the Space Gem. End.

With three days of prep... honestly. Hell. 3 days of prep, Reed builds an amplifier for Bolt's sonic attack, he screams full bore in the direction of the fleet when they warp in. End.

By the way, I liked the whole "the Sentry /probably/ survives the ork assault". What's one trillion times zero?

Norrin doesn't need a power-up for this. He can do on pure Power Cosmic alone.

[Pendaran]

I'd imagine Reed would want to be thorough regardless.

[JuggernautRM]

The only way this device to work tho is for Reed, Doom, and Strange to go to the center of earth to hold the strength of the device.

This stops all the "reed will develop a device"

[Pendaran]

This stops all the "reed will develop a device"

Reed doesn't need to develop a device. Him and the Illuminati currently posess each of the Infinity Gems. They give the Surfer one of them.

[biggsdacat]

Reed gives the Silver Surfer the power gem. Or better yet the Space Gem. End.

With three days of prep... honestly. Hell. 3 days of prep, Reed builds an amplifier for Bolt's sonic attack, he screams full bore in the direction of the fleet when they warp in. End.

By the way, I liked the whole "the Sentry /probably/ survives the ork assault". What's one trillion times zero?

Quoted for truth. Every goddamn inch of it.

[biggsdacat]

This device brings every hero, villian, mutant, and etc fighter that existed in the marvel universe to earth at the same time and evacuates all civilians and makes the earth indestructable for a 3 month period.

Such a fuckstomp it's hilarious.

Gladiator
Dr. Strange
Sentry
Thanos
Mangog
Thor
Tyrant
Genis
Surfer
Surtur
Galactus

...and the list goes on and on. Seriously, on and on.


EDIT: Ahh...nevermind. Everyone who ever existed in the entire Marvel universe? Living Tribunal snaps his fingers and it's over

You honestly think that it would get that far? Really?

You believe that only sentry level characters survive? So people like gladiator, strange, surfer, thor, who are safely below sentry, all die? Please provide some feats for these orks that would allow them such a victory. Surely you're not basing this on sheer numbers, or are you? Honest questions. No disrespect at all.

Question to OP: Does galactus count as a high end god? What about tyrant? Odin? It's not like it matters, just wondering.

[Adam Safran]

Much less the people that can probably vaporize millions of orcs per second.

Like Black Bolt, Hyperion, Sentry.. Or vaporize their entire fleet, regardless of how many billion ships it is.

3 days fo prep? Reed rigs up a portable version of the Ultimate Nullifier, uses it on Black Bolt's scream. Bye bye!

[Deviant Juvenile]

What about the Waaaagh!! tho? Since it gets stronger with each Ork in it, with /all/ the Orks in it all at once, there's not gonna be much anyone can do. With that level of Waaaagh!! the Orks could virtual shut down every super power and energy source on or around Earth.

In their own universe, I'm fairly confident that the Orks could bitchslap Chaos Gods with that much Waaaagh!! at their disposal.

[Pendaran]

Well, dude can't make the Ultimate Nullifier, it's a unique item, but 3 days is enough time for all sorts of other things.

Honestly, no, the Surfer for instance doesn't need a gem to waste the fleet, but it's sort of concievable some might get past him while he's busy. I'm more referring to options that would let him end the fight basically instantaneously that are within Reed's power to grant him.

[Adam Safran]

What about the Waaaagh!! tho? Since it gets stronger with each Ork in it, with /all/ the Orks in it all at once, there's not gonna be much anyone can do. With that level of Waaaagh!! the Orks could virtual shut down every super power and energy source on or around Earth.

In their own universe, I'm fairly confident that the Orks could bitchslap Chaos Gods with that much Waaaagh!! at their disposal.

I'm fairly certain that much WAAAGGGHH!!! isn't going to do much against a literal metareality warper, or something like the Infinity Gems.

[Xero Kaiser]

You believe that only sentry level characters survive? So people like gladiator, strange, surfer, thor, who are safely below sentry, all die?

I put them ('cept strange) at the "on or around sentry level" category. So yeah, they're the only ones who'd make it out. Who the hell else is going to survive a million ships flinging asteroids at the planet and then 500 trillion Orks (plus Hulk) butt-rushing anyone who's left standing? Yes, a lot of this is based off sheer numbers. It's just going to be an endless flood of superhuman, psychic killing machines teleporting in after showering the earth in meteor storms. Apparently, gods and universal powers (I'm assuming that means infinity gems and the like) are out, so no, if you aren't in the "I break planets with my hands" category, you die within minutes.

Like I said earlier, if the high-end Surfer/Sentry level guys beat back the assault (which they probably will....eventually) they'll be about the only ones left alive

[biggsdacat]

I put them ('cept strange) at the "on or around sentry level" category. So yeah, they're the only ones who'd make it out. Who the hell else is going to survive a million ships flinging asteroids at the planet and then 500 trillion Orks (plus Hulk) butt-rushing anyone who's left standing? Yes, a lot of this is based off sheer numbers. It's just going to be an endless flood of superhuman, psychic killing machines teleporting in after showering the earth in meteor storms. Apparently, gods and universal powers (I'm assuming that means infinity gems and the like) are out, so no, if you aren't in the "I break planets with my hands" catergory, you die within minutes.

Like I said earlier, if the high-end Surfer/Sentry level guys beat back the assault (which they probably will....eventually) they'll be about the only ones left alive

Fair enough. I just thought it was important to distinguish between sentry level, and characters who are below him. I feel that sentry is thanos level, or very close to it. While characters like surfer, and gladiator, would be below by a safe, but not huge margin. I think those types of characters could survive too. That's all I really wanted to clear up. I hope you get my drift.

[Pendaran]

Who the hell else is going to survive a million ships flinging asteroids at the planet and then 500 trillion Orks (plus Hulk) butt-rushing anyone who's left standing?

Because in three days, the various forces assembled are going to set things up so that they basicallt stand there and let the orks do so? Oh, right, right, I remember, in the three days, some of the people who can do stuff with prep, are not allowed to do stuff with prep.

That said, only a few of the infinity gems, specifically, one of them, by itself, could be called "universal power" (the reality gem), the others require a great deal of stretching and open admission that a lot of handicaps are needed for what are simply currently naturally at hand resources.

Or, the Surfer with the Space Gem is being conservative boosted to Runner like operating capacity, allowing for him to wipe out the fleet near instantaneously.

[MKTerra]

This is all the Orcs from WH40K.

All of them.

That's millions maybe even billions of Orcs just dropping out of the sky.

...

With billions of these things running around the Marvel Earth, the heroes are going to have a damn hard time stopping them.

...

And telepaths might not even be able to effect the Orcs in a big group as they'll have to contend with getting in touch with the combined WAAAAGH!! of several million Orcs, which is not going to do their mind any good.I know that was posted early in the thread, but for future reference, Earth alone, a single planet, has about 6 billion humans. All the orks from the 40k galaxy would number many orders of magnitude higher.

[Deviant Juvenile]

I know that was posted early in the thread, but for future reference, Earth alone, a single planet, has about 6 billion humans. All the orks from the 40k galaxy would number many orders of magnitude higher.

Millions of trillions of Orks.

The sheer amount of Orkiness makes me smile.

[Nik Hasta]

I know that was posted early in the thread, but for future reference, Earth alone, a single planet, has about 6 billion humans. All the orks from the 40k galaxy would number many orders of magnitude higher.

I know that now.

[mailedbypostman1]

2) Having to deal with millions of Feral Orcs popping up a couple of years later having had so many orcs giving off spores as they die.

I'd just like to note that each ork gives off millions of spores. So in fact, the resulting feral population would be EXPONENTIALLY greater than then the original attacking Ork race.

[Siriel]

I'd just like to note that each ork gives off millions of spores. So in fact, the resulting feral population would be EXPONENTIALLY greater than then the original attacking Ork race.

If only they weren't all killed by Sentry before getting to the planet...

[mailedbypostman1]

If only they weren't all killed by Sentry before getting to the planet...
I wonder if Sentry has a prettiness meme outside of CBR.