Why isn't Planet without a Hulk tie into World War Hulk ?

[CMBMOOL]

This is a question that really bother me, so please try and give me an honest answer:

Why isn't that Dan Slott She-Hulk current arc entitled Planet without a Hulk not tie into World War Hulk ?

I mean it bridges the details from the Aftermath of Civil War into WWH and it also contines into Incredible Hulk #106, so why isn't such a arc not tieing into the summer event because it also shows how the She-Hulk figures out what happen to the Hulk over the course of Civil War and who done it.

What do you think the answer is ? :confused:

[Verminous]

This is a question that really bother me, so please try and give me an honest answer:

Why isn't that Dan Slott She-Hulk current arc entitled Planet without a Hulk not tie into World War Hulk ?

I mean it bridges the details from the Aftermath of Civil War into WWH and it also contines into Incredible Hulk #106, so why isn't such a arc not tieing into the summer event because it also shows how the She-Hulk figures out what happen to the Hulk over the course of Civil War and who done it.

What do you think the answer is ? :confused:

I think it's because Joe Q is worried about burnout with the events and is trying to keep the event as small as possible. So when fans start seeing WWH tie in on a number of other titles they may start to question Marvel, I think that because Civil War grew out of control mostly due to the delays that Marvel may have learnt a lesson from the sprawl it created. That's just my take, no more road to civil war type comics.

[DoctorDoom]

I'd say it's a minor tie in tbh

[Michael P]

Um, did you hit your head on something? It's a prelude to WWH. That makes it, by definition, a tie-in.

[Verminous]

I think he means why is it not an official tie in with the WWH trade dress.:rolleyes:

[drunkentiger]

How can I find out which books are tie-ins ,but
not officially labeled tie-ins? Are there other books
that are considered preludes to WWH?

[lonewolf23k]

Considering PwaH shows SHIELD stockpiling "Hulk-Level" superhumans in case the Hulk returns, I think a WWH tie-in is inevitable...

[MAK15]

I think this is a prelude to WWH, and that She-Hulk's involvment will be covered in Incredible Hulk or WWH. she's already had 4 issues dealing with this subject, why more?

[CaptainMech]

i think it more of a prelude also

[agrich]

I don't really understand the complaint. It's got the big Planet Without a Hulk logo that certainly served to bump up its sales, and it's been billed as an important prelude. The fact that it doesn't have a "World War Hulk" logo seems kind of irrelevant. It essentially is a tie-in.

If you're concerned that it's not going to be in the trade paperbacks or something, let me put your mind at ease. Maybe the last two issues of the thing will salvage it, but the first two issues of the thing totally sucked and if it's not collected in a trade paperback they're doing you a huge favor.

[CMBMOOL]

I don't really understand the complaint. It's got the big Planet Without a Hulk logo that certainly served to bump up its sales, and it's been billed as an important prelude. The fact that it doesn't have a "World War Hulk" logo seems kind of irrelevant. It essentially is a tie-in.






My complaint is that if this arc leads into World War Hulk, from the Earth POV, then it got to tie into event and should be listed as one of the many tie ins. :mad:

[agrich]

So you're upset that Marvel hasn't officially listed it as one of the tie-ins? What difference does it make? I think most people DO consider it a tie-in, albeit a sucky one, so I don't know why that isn't enough for you. Let's just say it is and move on.

[CMBMOOL]

So you're upset that Marvel hasn't officially listed it as one of the tie-ins? What difference does it make?

Actually it could make several differences for it to be a tie in...

1. It shows what has happen to several of the Hulk's foes when he is away

2. It shows the trials of the She-Hulk as she tries to fill in for her cousin's place

3. It show some Non-Hulk fans what has truly become of the Earth while the Hulk was exiled.

4. It shows the comparisions of powers between the Hulk and She-Hulk

5. It somewhat gives us an explaination on how the Hulk defeats several of his more monsterous foes.

6. It shows us how the She-Hulk found out about the Hulk's exile and who's responsible for it

7. It show a hero or heroine, She-Hulk, confrontation with a member of the Illuminati, Iron Man in this case, over their decision to banish the Hulk from the Earth

8. IT shows another person, this time a heroine, finding out about the Illuminati's decision to exile the Hulk

That's about all I can think of unless you have other reasons.:rolleyes:

[agrich]

You're not understanding me, so I'll try again.

It DOES show all 8 of those things you listed. Already. Right?

So, again, what difference does it make if Marvel officially lists it as a tie-in or not? IT IS A TIE IN. IT HAS THOSE 8 THINGS ALREADY. It would have them if Marvel officially calls it a tie-in, it has them without being called a tie-in. Why do you care whether Marvel lists it as a tie in or not? IT IS ONE. I simply can't fathom why on earth you need the label to be there. Think for yourself! Marvel doesn't call it a tie in. Big whoop. How would simply CALLING it a tie in make a difference? Those things are there regardless.

[Scavenger]

So, again, what difference does it make if Marvel officially lists it as a tie-in or not? IT IS A TIE IN. IT HAS THOSE 8 THINGS ALREADY. It would have them if Marvel officially calls it a tie-in, it has them without being called a tie-in. Why do you care whether Marvel lists it as a tie in or not? IT IS ONE. I simply can't fathom why on earth you need the label to be there. Think for yourself! Marvel doesn't call it a tie in. Big whoop. How would simply CALLING it a tie in make a difference? Those things are there regardless.

Cuz maybe it might get more people to read the vastly under read She-Hulk?

[agrich]

Cuz maybe it might get more people to read the vastly under read She-Hulk?

So the huge "Planet Without a Hulk" banner across the top of each issue doesn't tell people it ties into the Hulk series?

The solicits, which say things like "this is the issue where She-Hulk finally realizes who blasted her cousin into space," don't tip it off?

The fact that when you click on the "Hulk" link for upcoming comics at Marvel.com it takes you to this page, which shows all of the recent She-Hulk issues, with "The Hulk" splashed into every description?

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?category=HULK&

I don't see how people could really be unaware that there's a link, but I guess if some want it spelled out even more explicitly, so be it.

[Mike Smash!]

agrich, could you tone down the snark a little bit? It's possible to make the same points without being rude about it.

[agrich]

Eye rolls kind of get my temper up. But, sure.

In any case, I understand where they're coming from now -- She-Hulk fans who want their book to have more readers, I should have got that from the thread-starter's avatar -- so it makes more sense to me. No offense intended.

[Scavenger]

So the huge "Planet Without a Hulk" banner across the top of each issue doesn't tell people it ties into the Hulk series?


If people are going out to buy all "World War Hulk" comics, then no, that doesn't tell people it ties into it.

That's why banners like that were created back when DC did COIE, and then Marvel did Secret Wars II, so that people at newsstands, could know at a glance that issue x of a comic was part of the big storyline.

[agrich]

OK, fine.

Look, I guess the appropriate thing would have been to give it a "Road to World War Hulk" banner, like they did with the Iron Man and Fantastic Four issues, among others, that led up to Civil War. World War Hulk hasn't actually begun, so that would have been the appropriate thing to do.

In this case I imagine somebody thought that "Planet without a Hulk" was kind of amusing and clever as a riff on Planet Hulk -- maybe Slott himself, it would be in keeping with the tone of the book for the most part -- and there you go.

[Verminous]

Well yeah planet W/O a hulk was probably Slott's little play on words. What I don't think you get Agrich is that when something has a tie in dress on it, the sales on that book shoot up. You just have to look at civil war for proof of that. Planet Hulk was a self contained story so the planet W/O a hulk trade dress is not gonna have much affect on the fanboys that collect all the tie ins to the big events, and if you could stop being arguementative for a moment you would surely realise that too.:rolleyes: (for comedy effect):p