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Mike Smash!

03-28-2007, 05:47 PM

Hal has a contentious reunion with Carol Ferris, under the influence of the Star Sapphire and we get our first "Tale of the Sinestro Corps".

Let me first say that I absolutely love the artwork in this issue. Acuna does great energy effects, so he's a great choice to do a GL story. I think Ivan Reis is the perfect artist on this book, but if they ever need a fill-in for another arc or if Reis ever leaves, I'd say Acuna should be at the front of the line to take over.

I did see the Sapphire's new host coming for a while, but I was satisfied with the way this plays out.

Interesting thought. They mention that Hal Jordan had been previously dishonorably discharged from the Air Force. Does anyone know why?

The thing with Carol (and Tom, too) has been a dangling plot thread for a while and I hope to see this all resolved by the end of this storyarc.

I dug the first Sinestro Corps story and I really enjoyed the mood that really drew on the old Alan Moore type stories and the GLC Quarterly series from years back, only in a dark distorted way. Alot of GL mythos reversed, including a Sinestro version of the Book of Oa.

Despotellis is just a creepy concept, but I found myself wondering. How does he wear a ring?

CaptainCanada

03-28-2007, 06:16 PM

Despotellis is just a creepy concept, but I found myself wondering. How does he wear a ring?
Well, the Guardians made an abstract mathematical equation a GL according to Tomar-Re in "Mogo Doesn't Socialize", so I imagine sentient bacteria would be considerably easier. Speaking of "Mogo Doesn't Socialize", the backup reminded me a lot of that story, with the last-page reveal of the identity of the title character.

This is the first issue of this title I've read (I'm interested in the SC storyline, so I figured I'd start now, with the backup stories); the art in the main story just doesn't work very well for me, I'm afraid; this sort of washed-out style is good for energy/action stuff, but the characters' faces are too bland for my liking. The art in the backup story was much better.

My favourite part was Star Sapphire leaving Host #1 naked in an open airplane cockpit in midair, and then the plane exploding. That's cold.

We R. Venom

03-28-2007, 07:15 PM

Well Star Sapphire was sure interesting. I had no idea her mission was to become impregnated my Hal Jordan, lol but thats ok. I loved the Tales of the Sinestro Corps. was great. I hope the next issue comes quick. I wonder how long Cowgirl will stay as she is though.

Jack Zodiac

03-28-2007, 08:03 PM

What'd Carol figure out? The Zamarons chose Korugar as their mating ground long ago, but after Sinestro was executed for his crimes the first time, then they went back to the Oans. And since then, didn't they move back to Oa to take care of the new Guardians? The Zamarons were one factor in the Green Lantern mythos I hadn't figured on being relevant to the new Sinestro Corps.

Well, we'll see how that plays out. In the meantime, while I saw Cowgirl becoming the new Star Sapphire coming from a mile away, I wasn't disappointed. The rock's just a horny alien lookin' for her Captain Kirk, man. Can't knock a classic idea like that.

As for the Sinestro Corps back-up, very well done. I love that Gibbons is back in the role of making big decisions about the Corps, and between making Mogo socialize and introducing the fabled Ranx the Sentient City, I'm very, very excited about what he has in store for the Corps in coming months. I highly doubt we'll see the foretold "end of the Green Lantern Corps" as written by Alan Moore, but introducing elements of it sure does make those stories more amazing.

Oh, and the Book of Parallax? Totally !@#$ing awesome.

Deadpooligan

03-28-2007, 08:58 PM

Daniel Acuna's art doesn't really fit the book, kind of like how Simone Bianchi's, didn't either, IMO. I wasn't really as pulled in to this issue as previous ones.

Star Sapphire joining Carol was interesting, then predictable when it jumped onto Cowgirl (despite the future covers alluding to just Carol again).

I've never really been a fan of Star Sapphire, especially how her powers were just like a Green Lantern's, despite Sinestro growing into that role as "evil Green Lantern". (They debuted only a few months apart, no less.)

But the back up story is what really made this worthwhile. Sinestro Corps has shocked and impressed me so very much. Book of Parallax, debut of Despotellis (awesome, yet superbly creepy!), the hope we'll see Qwardian Guardians next issue... just fantastic. (And Amon Sur strikes me as a rookie Hal in a way, despite opposite ring morals.)

drwho

03-28-2007, 09:45 PM

Has Hal gotten an interesting personality in this book yet, or is he still a snore?

Bored at 3:00AM

03-28-2007, 10:26 PM

Interesting thought. They mention that Hal Jordan had been previously dishonorably discharged from the Air Force. Does anyone know why?

There have been a few different stories written about how Hal left the Air Force. Since none of them really contradict each other, you could say that all of them contributed to Hal's dishonorable discharge--his complete disrespect for authority, his recklessness and bravado, his knack for being involved in some of the most expensive jet crashes in Air Force history and surviving them. Most recently, it's been established that Hal also had a tendancy to strike superior officers. Starbuck ain't got nuthin' on Hal Jordan.

Love what they're doing with Star Sapphire. That update of her costume is excellent. Keeps everything that worked about the original and revamped the rest. Curious to see what Johns' has got cooked up for the origins of the Star Sapphire, The Zamarons and Korugar. For those of you who don't know, The Zamarons are The Guardians' female counterparts, who ditched the little blue midgets to shack up with the men of Sinestro's race.

Despolotis as the Anti-Mogo was pretty fun, but would have been better had they not revealed it's true nature in interviews before the story came out.

lightning

03-28-2007, 11:08 PM

I liked it, even though you could see Cowgirl as Star Sapphire coming from a mile away. Carol as Star Sapphire was pretty good too, although I get the impression Cowgirl might stay as Star Saphhire for a more than one issue.

Tales of the Sinestro Corps was awesome.

Raker616

03-28-2007, 11:20 PM

Another stellar issue of GL by Geoff and Co. Acuna's art is ok but when a book that boast guys like EVS, Pacheco, Bianchi and Reis he just isn't in their league IMO. I really wanna see the origin of Star Saphire and what is Sinestro's connection to her. The Sinestro Corps story was the best part of the issue Despo is an evil little creature and I can't wait to see the Lanterns squash him.

Taskmaster

03-29-2007, 08:57 AM

This is the first issue of this title I've read (I'm interested in the SC storyline, so I figured I'd start now, with the backup stories); the art in the main story just doesn't work very well for me, I'm afraid; this sort of washed-out style is good for energy/action stuff, but the characters' faces are too bland for my liking. The art in the backup story was much better.

My favourite part was Star Sapphire leaving Host #1 naked in an open airplane cockpit in midair, and then the plane exploding. That's cold.

Same here on the art, it's nice, but it doesn't work in this book :( As for Sinestro Corps, It was awesome, I just feel bad for Reemuz, he survived the dark period of the GLC only to job now

CMBMOOL

03-29-2007, 10:52 AM

Kinda creepy freaky for an alien parsite to be interested in Hal Jorden, even if it is attach to a female. :(

PastePotPete

03-29-2007, 03:43 PM

I don't dig Acuna on this book either. They guy's obviously good. I think DC just needs to find a book that's the right fit for him. Personally, I don't see his style working well with traditional superhero fare. We can't give this guy a nice Vertigo title to work on? Or at least something in the main DCU that's a little more artsy and left-of-center? Green Lantern is and always has been straight superheroics.

Hey! Who said Hal's personality is a snore? I hear that from a lot of guys who were against the Rebirth and haven't been reading Green Lantern. Hal might have lost some of his unique-ness right before they turned him into Parallax, but since his return Johns has given him a really definitive point of view. I like Hal. He's the superhero who takes stupid risks because that's how he works best. He wins because he's just got more NERVE than the bad guys. It's a really cool take on the character.

Star Sapphire is creepy as hell. Saying "yummy" and crap like that. See, it's an interesting dilemma. What if the hottest fox you knew wanted to jump you and give you all the hot loving you desire, but you knew that this was because she was possessed by an evil alien parasite? Interesting quandary. Interested in seeing how it plays out.

Jack Zodiac

03-29-2007, 03:49 PM

Plus, she's only out to jump his bones so she can get knocked up. I don't care how Kirk your hero is, that'll scare 'em right outta' bed, even Hal Manmeat Jordan.

Indefatigable

03-29-2007, 08:40 PM

I'm also gonna have to throw in my vote for "like the art, but don't think it fits."

Mike Smash!

03-29-2007, 11:34 PM

Despolotis as the Anti-Mogo was pretty fun, but would have been better had they not revealed it's true nature in interviews before the story came out.

Now that you mention it, that story did pay a lot of homage to the story that introduced Mogo.

The new GL books have a lot of love for the old Alan Moore stories, it seems.

Billage

03-30-2007, 07:27 AM

phantom1592

03-30-2007, 08:50 AM

HATED the art. Would love to see him leave this book. Same with whoever it was that finished up the shark story... This book seems to alternate between GREAT artists and horrible ones. :(

Mike Smash!

03-30-2007, 01:35 PM

Man, I guess I'm alone in loving the art this issue and thinking Acuna was a good GL artist?

ColonelLee

03-30-2007, 01:44 PM

No, you are not alone, Mr. Smash. I loved Acuna's art and thought he did a great job on this issue. They could keep Acuna on GL and I'd be very happy.

Who are these people that go "his art is too good" ?? They must work for Marvel. :)

mgs

03-30-2007, 05:46 PM

I was really impressed with the art in this one. In another book, it might get a little much, but the amount of cheesiness was right on here. I thought the backup story was weird, an undetectable bacteria was the evil one? Why is it undetectable? And I wonder if one of the GL Corpse would'a done a better job than that poor bastard.

Mike Smash!

03-30-2007, 06:04 PM

DDM

03-30-2007, 06:30 PM

I wish Ivan Reis penciled this arc. Otherwise, it's another great story, although somewhat predictable.

mgs

03-30-2007, 07:15 PM

Well, he was likely scanning for a person, not a virus.

Yeah, but I though that mostly, when GL's are on 'guard mode', they keep that invisible barrier around themselves, which I would guess would also guard against any biomaterial. Unless he let his shields down?

BeastieRunner

03-30-2007, 09:06 PM

Fantastic story.

Awesome art.

Tales of the Sinestro Corps is sensational and I can't wait for the war. It's going to be out of this world.

Jack Zodiac

03-31-2007, 12:17 AM

Yeah, but I though that mostly, when GL's are on 'guard mode', they keep that invisible barrier around themselves, which I would guess would also guard against any biomaterial. Unless he let his shields down?

What has been pounded into our heads about the Green Lantern Corps since Rebirth and Recharge? A Green Lantern's a nigh-invulnerable beast when he has no fear, or has known his fears and faced them. When he's blindsided by his fears, though, he's vulnerable. Reemuz's entire race, his family, every living thing on his planet was killed and he couldn't find their killers despite having been holding it in his hands the entire time. He was afraid, Despotellis had instilled that fear in him, and used that moment of weakness to attack him in a way he couldn't have expected.

This little back up is, hands down, one of the best injections to the Green Lantern mythos in years. This whole Sinestro Corps idea is, in fact.

Mike Smash!

03-31-2007, 01:18 AM

I just feel bad for Reemuz, he survived the dark period of the GLC only to job now

Did Reemuz appear before?

Jack Zodiac

03-31-2007, 01:53 AM

He's appeared a few times, never much of a major character, or even as popular as guys like Green Man and Jack T. Chance. His first appearance was an issue of GLCQ, just like a lot of the cameo Lanterns and cannon fodder.

sschroeder

03-31-2007, 02:36 AM

I enjoyed the art in both stories.

Clearly, the little yellow things in the space above Mogo at the end of GLC # 10 were Despotellis, right?

phantom1592

03-31-2007, 04:39 AM

What has been pounded into our heads about the Green Lantern Corps since Rebirth and Recharge? A Green Lantern's a nigh-invulnerable beast when he has no fear, or has known his fears and faced them. When he's blindsided by his fears, though, he's vulnerable. Reemuz's entire race, his family, every living thing on his planet was killed and he couldn't find their killers despite having been holding it in his hands the entire time. He was afraid, Despotellis had instilled that fear in him, and used that moment of weakness to attack him in a way he couldn't have expected.

This little back up is, hands down, one of the best injections to the Green Lantern mythos in years. This whole Sinestro Corps idea is, in fact.

This is what I was hoping for when they "took away" the yellow weakness again. They went on and on about how they could "beat the yellow" now by knowing fear. I was afraid they were just going to say Hal and the others just didn't have any problem with it any more.

But that's not the way its supposed to work.

They can only beat a yellow problem that they can PREPARE for. If sinestro charges Hal with Yellow spear... Fine. He can deal with that. If a sniper from 100 yds away takes a shot at him, and he isn't PREPARED for facing yellow.... That should tear right through his shield. It is STILL a weakness that can be exploited. I HOPE that's what they were implying with Reemuz. The virus was able to slip right past his defenses.

thinbalion

03-31-2007, 08:39 AM

I enjoyed the art in both stories.

Clearly, the little yellow things in the space above Mogo at the end of GLC # 10 were Despotellis, right?

That would make sense and in fact I expect that's what it is exactly. My only problem is that when I went back and checked the art it doesn't exactly match up... which with Gibbons involved in both I would have hopped would not have happened. But yeah... thats probably right and will make things really interesting next issue.

Karl O'Neill

03-31-2007, 08:53 AM

The Art was fine to me.

daniel acuna's storytelling ability really worked well for me.

This guy done some strong solid work on uncle sam(8issues) i hope he is penciling jimmy palimotti's next uncle sam and the freedom fighters mini.

His colours worked out beautifully in Green lantern 18.

Reis is fantastic artist too, i wonder what he is working on now, i know he will be back to greenlantern soon enuff, maybe he is taken a rest.

Jack Zodiac

03-31-2007, 11:47 AM

This is what I was hoping for when they "took away" the yellow weakness again. They went on and on about how they could "beat the yellow" now by knowing fear. I was afraid they were just going to say Hal and the others just didn't have any problem with it any more.

But that's not the way its supposed to work.

They can only beat a yellow problem that they can PREPARE for. If sinestro charges Hal with Yellow spear... Fine. He can deal with that. If a sniper from 100 yds away takes a shot at him, and he isn't PREPARED for facing yellow.... That should tear right through his shield. It is STILL a weakness that can be exploited. I HOPE that's what they were implying with Reemuz. The virus was able to slip right past his defenses.

I don't think that's it exactly, either. The weakness isn't yellow anymore, it's fear. The newbies are still hit with the idea that the weakness to yellow is an extension of their own fear, so if they're afraid, yellow can affect them. If Hal's completely solid, collected, and just standing on a street corner with his ring on and someone fires a yellow bullet at him from a couple hundred yards away, he'll be fine; but if someone just snapped the necks of every single members of his family, all of his friends, and his puppy and that sniper takes that same shot, he's a dead man.

It's fear, now, that makes or breaks a Green Lantern, and I expect to see that exploited a lot when the !@#$ finally hits the fan with this upcoming war.

phantom1592

03-31-2007, 12:05 PM

I don't think that's it exactly, either. The weakness isn't yellow anymore, it's fear. The newbies are still hit with the idea that the weakness to yellow is an extension of their own fear, so if they're afraid, yellow can affect them. If Hal's completely solid, collected, and just standing on a street corner with his ring on and someone fires a yellow bullet at him from a couple hundred yards away, he'll be fine; but if someone just snapped the necks of every single members of his family, all of his friends, and his puppy and that sniper takes that same shot, he's a dead man.

It's fear, now, that makes or breaks a Green Lantern, and I expect to see that exploited a lot when the !@#$ finally hits the fan with this upcoming war.

Still the Lanterns were "always" fearless. Its more than that after rebirth. They have to "know fear" or Remember fear or something like that and work past it. The yellow weakness is back in the lantern, they just know how to work around it.

They can't be walking around town all day long, knowing fear and working past it. Its gotta take a little 'extra' Willpower.

Jack Zodiac

03-31-2007, 12:11 PM

I think "knowing fear" means, pretty generically, being able to have fear instilled in you but overcoming it. "Knowing fear" doesn't mean walking around all day thinking of things to be afraid of and then finding reasons not to be afraid of that.

At the end of Recharge, when the Spider Guild was attacking Oa, the Lanterns who were picked off knew fear, because they were afraid of their enemies, but couldn't overcome that fear. The ones who survived were those who recognized that they were afraid, but decided to put that fear behind them and defend themselves.

The weakness to fear, to yellow, is in the moment, not a constant.

phantom1592

03-31-2007, 12:32 PM

The weakness to fear, to yellow, is in the moment, not a constant.

Agreed.

It was my only complaint about Rebirth. Just how.... Vague this very integral part of the mythos became. I'm hoping they have SOME kind of limitations. That was one of the things I hated about Kyle. He had NO limitations. How can you be a hero when you don't have anything to overcome?

I wish they had brought back the 24 hr limit too. I don't like the limited charge aspect they do now. Green Lantern walks a VERY fine line. He should be able to do ANYTHING that he can imagine (that's what the ring always was) but he also has to have limitations. Its very tough to balance. I want the ring to be limited to by his willpower, not 15% charge remaining. It seems to give the ring more credit than the man. Can he create a force field for the whole planet? Nope.... not with only 8% charge remaining. I prefer that even with seconds left of a charge... something Amazing can still happen!

Jack Zodiac

03-31-2007, 03:56 PM

Mike Smash!

03-31-2007, 08:57 PM

Yeah, I wasn't too keen on the "XY% charge remaning" stuff. It made situations seem more desperate, like when the Corpsmen were stuck in the Spider Guild ship in Recharge, or when Guy and Hal were fighting the Manhunters in 3601, but it does make it seem almost like the ring's the real weapon, not the willpower behind it.The willpower is still the real weapon. Just give a ring to a random person and they could be totally helpless with it. Give it to the right person and they're unstoppable.

I don't mind the gas tank charge and I like the urgency that can come knowing that they're running low on power. It's been used to great effect both when Hal fought the Manhunter in his series and when Kyle and Guy fought the Spider Guild.

Jack Zodiac

03-31-2007, 09:24 PM

I forget, too... when's the last time we've actually seen a Lantern recharge their ring? Not Hal hijackin' a Manhunter's face, but I mean a Lantern grabbin' their battery and rechargin', oath an' all? They did it at the end of Recharge as a group, which was an awesome !@#$ing scene, but I don't think any of them have done it since.

Mike Smash!

03-31-2007, 09:32 PM

Jack Zodiac

03-31-2007, 09:41 PM

Actually, yeah, he did, good point. I'd like to see it more often in the Corps book, though. One of the cooler bits of Moore and Gibbons' work previously was the variety of oaths for the different aliens that make up the Corps.

And I still wanna' know what Mogo's oath would be, if he has one.

Alex L

03-31-2007, 09:42 PM

I'm a bigger fan of the gas tank model -- while it may not be as effective for dramatic purposes (open to interpretation, of course) it makes a bit more sense to me that the ring could simply run out of power, than the old 24-hour model where in one moment you could be pumping out enough power to singlehandedly keep a supernova entirely contained across the entire EM spectrum, then *snaps fingers* in the next moment, the power's cut off, like killing a firehose from the hydrant. I couldn't envision how the GL energy flows from Oa to the rings in a way that requires an intermediary every so often, and the hows and whys of that being interrupted.

I wish they had brought back the 24 hr limit too. I don't like the limited charge aspect they do now. Green Lantern walks a VERY fine line. He should be able to do ANYTHING that he can imagine (that's what the ring always was) but he also has to have limitations. Its very tough to balance. I want the ring to be limited to by his willpower, not 15% charge remaining. It seems to give the ring more credit than the man. Can he create a force field for the whole planet? Nope.... not with only 8% charge remaining. I prefer that even with seconds left of a charge... something Amazing can still happen!

I see the opposite approach. With the old model, he could create a giant bubble over the entire planet. Under the new model, if he has insufficent power to do that, then it just means he has to use his creativity to think of another method...

mgs

03-31-2007, 10:52 PM

What has been pounded into our heads about the Green Lantern Corps since Rebirth and Recharge? A Green Lantern's a nigh-invulnerable beast when he has no fear, or has known his fears and faced them. When he's blindsided by his fears, though, he's vulnerable. Reemuz's entire race, his family, every living thing on his planet was killed and he couldn't find their killers despite having been holding it in his hands the entire time. He was afraid, Despotellis had instilled that fear in him, and used that moment of weakness to attack him in a way he couldn't have expected.

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I don't know, I'll have to read it again, but I didn't get that sense. What I seemed to get in this particular little story was that he PHYSICALLY wore himself out before getting beat. I don't think it had anything to do with his heart or fear or willpower. He simply tried to sustain himself for too long without rest or nourishment.

</p>Did his ring help him? I don't know. But I always gathered the GL's and their rings almost acted like partners in that they kinda protected one another and I would think an evil, intelligent entity entering his body would be something that would trigger an alarm of some kind.</p>

Fallman

03-31-2007, 11:45 PM

I'm not up to date on Star Sapphire. Why's she a supervillian? Besides the stalker/Rape thing she has with Jordan, I mean.

Bored at 3:00AM

04-01-2007, 05:47 AM

I loved Acuna's art on Uncle Sam & The Freedom Fighters and I loved his art on Carol Ferris, Star Sapphire and the lovely Cowgirl, who is a worthy addition to Hal's Rogues Gallery of Love. I'd like to see bisexual ball-buster Olivia Reynolds return. She has a lot of potential as a whole diffrn't kind of Star Sapphire. A Star Sapphired Arisia would also be very cool.

Jack Zodiac

04-01-2007, 11:25 AM

I'm not up to date on Star Sapphire. Why's she a supervillian? Besides the stalker/Rape thing she has with Jordan, I mean.

The Star Sapphire is a gem from the planet Zamaron that gives whoever wears it psionic powers. Whoever is fit to wear it becomes the queen of the Zamarons, and with that title comes the obsession of finding the perfect mate. The second Star Sapphire, Carol Ferris, was Hal's girlfriend at the time, and it decided that he was the perfect mate for it. Been a while since we've seen it, though. It's changed hands twice, at least, that I know of, and neither of them were trying like hell to jump Hal's bones.

zhivago

04-02-2007, 09:02 AM

Excellent issue, as usual. It was also good to see Tom Kalmaku in Green Lantern comic again. I'm satisfied with the fact that Johns continues his revival of Jordan's classic rouge galaxy.

Mike Smash!

04-02-2007, 11:25 AM

It was also good to see Tom KalmakuWas this the first time we've seen Tom since Legacy?

I hope that before this current arc ends we'll get to see him and Hal reunited.

Jack Zodiac

04-02-2007, 11:53 AM

Wasn't Tom in Rebirth? If not, yeah, it's the first time we've seen him since Legacy.

Mike Smash!

04-02-2007, 01:56 PM

Wasn't Tom in Rebirth? If not, yeah, it's the first time we've seen him since Legacy.No, Tom and Carol didn't appear in Rebirth and this is the first time that we've seen Hal interact with his old supporting cast since he became Green Lantern again.

It is good to see Tom moving up in the world, though.

Jack Zodiac

04-02-2007, 02:02 PM

No, I'm pretty sure Carol showed up in Rebirth.

I need to convert all of my comics into trades so I can get to this stuff quicker.

mgs

04-02-2007, 08:30 PM

okay, so i was in J&R tofay when I spot an old movie called, The Tingler or something. I pick it up for the silly name and it says that a virus gets into fear ridden bodies, attaches it self to their neck (vertebre) and the only way to stop it from snapping their neck is to scream. I don't think he did that. Don't know if this is what the thing is supposed to be like, but I was thinking about the back up sinestro tales story when I was looking at this.

Alex L

04-03-2007, 12:14 AM

Did his ring help him? I don't know. But I always gathered the GL's and their rings almost acted like partners in that they kinda protected one another and I would think an evil, intelligent entity entering his body would be something that would trigger an alarm of some kind.

- The rings are actually different now than they were before -- so it's entirely possible it didn't protect him. (The AI seems to be back, though all the GL's operate on the gas-tank model rather than the 24-hour model.)

- The rings are somewhat vulnerable to yellow -- if the GL in question wasn't actively attempting to repel the virus, it might have still been able to permeate through the green shielding?

SKETCHSANCHEZ

04-03-2007, 01:13 AM

It said that Pieface was offered a GL ring, is that for real?

When did that happen? Reading showcase GL and I cant possibly see what they would see in him haha

Jack Zodiac

04-03-2007, 08:58 AM

phantom1592

04-03-2007, 11:23 AM

In Legacy: The Last Will and Testament of Hal Jordan, Tom's given Hal's ring, which disguises itself as Hal's "son," Marty. Parallax comes to take the ring back (time travel nonsense, but whatever), Tom uses the ring to steal Parallax's power, and he rebuild's Oa with it. Instead of keeping the ring, he gives it to Kilowog so he can get the ball rolling on rebuilding the Corps.

Mind you, there's a bunch of little continuity glitches between this and what Winick eventually did with the Corps, but I'm pretty sure this was the time Tom was talking about. The only other times I can think of him being given a ring were when Hal created a duplicate ring for him to use.

Gosh I hated this story.....

The whole thing revolved around something that didn't even exist at the time. Hal's Ring was crushed and reformed into Kyles! Tom being a drunk and talking about "Hal Jordan" to bunch of Thugs in a bar.

Also if I remember correctly, the Ring ITSELF became Oa. All in all it was really forgetable.

Wasn't Tom involved with the Millenium "new Guardians" or something? Was he given any power during that? I only have one issue of the whole "event" so I'm not sure what it was all about.

Jack Zodiac

04-03-2007, 12:34 PM

Considering we hadn't seen Tom in years before it, I can handle him being bitter about Hal becoming a villain. I could believe that characterization. Hal's ring, yeah, didn't make a lick of sense, but then neither did it being mailed to Tom years and years after the fact. The way they personified the ring, though, it seems like it was all set up either while Hal was Parallax, in his remorseful phase, or while he was The Spectre, and the ring's "consciousness" was what personified Marty.

And he didn't rebuild Oa from the ring, because afterwards he gave it to Kilowog. Which, again, didn't make sense later when Kilowog returned to the Bolovax Vik afterlife hivemind.

Mike Smash!

04-04-2007, 03:06 AM

When was the last time that Hal and Tom interacted with each other personally? Was it pre-Emerald Twilight?

Alex L

04-05-2007, 08:39 PM

When was the last time that Hal and Tom interacted with each other personally? Was it pre-Emerald Twilight?

I remember they met up during Final Night, right before Hal sacrificed himself.

Mike Smash!

04-06-2007, 12:56 AM

I remember they met up during Final Night, right before Hal sacrificed himself.Can anyone remember them interacting any time since then?

Karl O'Neill

04-06-2007, 04:55 AM

Excellent issue, as usual. It was also good to see Tom Kalmaku in Green Lantern comic again. I'm satisfied with the fact that Johns continues his revival of Jordan's classic rouge galaxy.

Rouge galaxy??? Do you mean Rogue Gallery?

Gosh, S P E L L I N G.

no offense, i just found this so funny:D