ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #107 Spoilers

[Red Lotus]

I hate doing this thing. Well here goes nothing

Pretty much a talking head issue. But it was pretty good. I’m glad Kitty is in USM because I think she is a great cast member. The scene with her running and phasing out the class room after all the Spider-man question was a good fit and then when she and Peter talked it was pretty emotional. I can’t wait till they explore more of what she is going through. The only bad thing is she didn't get to interact with MJ face to face this issue.

The Rooftop meeting of the knights was one of my fav parts. Spider-man telling the team that he wouldn’t let them kill the Kingpin and that if they did he would go to Fury and name names was great. I also like how even after telling Daredevil that he would kick his butt if he ever showed up in his civilian life like that again, made Daredevil respect him more.

I wasn't a big fan of the plan to try to get a man inside the Kingpin organization. Plus with Moon knight being the one going in. I just dont think that is a good idea. But it does make me think that Moon Night is going to end up being Ronin. But since the guy doesn’t seem to have it all, he might really think he is who is pretending to be. The thing with the traitor at the end felt like it was to early and that it might be a trick.

I'm still hoping that ultimate Bullseye shows up in this arc.

[Hi-Fi]

Is Black Cat in it?? :)

[Grunty]

Isn't Ultimate Bullseye kind of weak?

I heared his Ultimate version is just an assasin who dress up as other person and does not has his "can kill by throwing anything" abilitys from the 616 universe which where instandly givin to Ultimate Hawkeye.

Another reason why i have the feeling most Ultimate Villians are weaker then theire 616 counterpart.

[Red Lotus]

Is Black Cat in it?? :)

No Black Cat at all.



Isn't Ultimate Bullseye kind of weak?

I heared his Ultimate version is just an assasin who dress up as other person and does not has his "can kill by throwing anything" abilitys from the 616 universe which where instandly givin to Ultimate Hawkeye.

Another reason why i have the feeling most Ultimate Villians are weaker then theire 616 counterpart.

Yeah they did pretty much give his powers to Hawkeye. But they can say the Kingpin did some thing to make him better.

[CMBMOOL]

Nice way of growing up for Ultimate Spidey. :D

Kinda makes me feel sorry for his 616 counter part. :(

[Sparda]

Is it me or is it so many women find Peter so sexy that even Jessica Jones took a picture of him on her cell and was grinning? And she's a senior.

Anyway I like the issue overall and the character interactions as well as the comedy on Peter's part of threatening to tell on them if they kill the kingpin. Can't wait for the next issue.

[Red Lotus]

Is it me or is it so many women find Peter so sexy that even Jessica Jones took a picture of him on her cell and was grinning? And she's a senior.

Anyway I like the issue overall and the character interactions as well as the comedy on Peter's part of threatening to tell on them if they kill the kingpin. Can't wait for the next issue.

I got a feeling that is going to come back and hunt Peter. That happen after Kitty ran out the room and It was almost like a hint that Jessica is going to be the next to find out that Peter is Spider-man.

[Stony]

I hate doing this thing. Well here goes nothing
Well... stop doing it then?

Let someone else do it if you're not getting the joy out of it anymore

[Pyro]

I enjoyed it a lot. Bagley's art was fantastic this issue; I couldn't stop thinking about how soon he'll be gone and how much I'll miss him. I loved the line from Moon Knight, "There-there are no chicken wings!" That was hilarious. I'm a little confused about Kitty's departure from the X-Men, it seems different over in UXM, maybe it's an accumulation of all her strifes. The end was a surprise. It was cool.

[Sebastos]

I still haven't gotten the issue yet...but can anyone tell me, did we get more Shang-Chi? And did Iron Fist show up?

[Pyro]

I still haven't gotten the issue yet...but can anyone tell me, did we get more Shang-Chi? And did Iron Fist show up?
Yes, they were both in it. Iron Fist has a bigger part though.

[Froggy]

Nice way of growing up for Ultimate Spidey. :D

Kinda makes me feel sorry for his 616 counter part. :(

seconded, srsly

[Spidercat]

Man, Peter really came off as a jerk in this issue, at least in the school scenes. Not once does he attempt to apologize to Kitty for leading her on -- instead he keeps making excuses for not going to see Kitty in person and his reasons for getting back together with Mary Jane. Granted the guy has been through a lot -- but Kitty's life hasn't exactly been easy street either. The guy has a lot of apologizing and groveling to do before he shows he's worthy of Kitty's friendship (which I hope does happen eventually).

I'm not getting a good vibe off MJ either -- despite her surface niceness, there's a real territorial streak in her words ("That's our spot Peter" "Did you tell her to transfer here?")

Then there's that panel with MJ possibly beginning to revert... I keep flashing back to that issue of X-Men (616 continuity) that showed Kitty alone and unaided fighting a demon in the school. Could that storyline replay itself -- only with MJ being the killer demon and Midtown High replacing the Xavier Institute?

The Daredevil scenes were fun although it's weird seeing Dr. Strange act so... juvenile. I wonder how Shang-Chi is going to react to his friend's betrayal (if in fact it is betrayal -- could be Bendis misdirecting us)

[shadow of a madman]

Was it just me or was Doc Strange kinda out of place in the group.I mean,noone likes a mob boss but why is he there?Does he have some deeper motivation?

And dear God,Kong's lost weight.

[XPac]

Was it just me or was Doc Strange kinda out of place in the group.I mean,noone likes a mob boss but why is he there?Does he have some deeper motivation?

And dear God,Kong's lost weight.

Yeah, I think Strange was kind of out of place too. I'm assuming Ultimate Dr. Strange is significantly depowered... otherwise, Kingpin really shouldn't be any problem for him whatsoever.

[Sparda]

I'm pretty sure Strange is there to get back at Fisk the legal way instead of using his spells to get fatty to confess or anything (has an honor thing or something) plus he probably want's to be a hero.

I'm sure Kong did'nt lose weight. Probably artist.

MJ could turn into the demogoblin any moment :D

I found it strange though that Kitty did'nt make a reference that Xavior died and she left the school cause of him refusing to use his powers to erase May's memory, but I think she's not entirely honest on the subject and does'nt want to tell Peter the whole truth (obviously out of feeling betrayed by Peter's trust)

[Jeff-E]

I didn't get the issue, who's in the Knights line-up?

[megabyte01]

i liked the scene in the hospital because it allowed me to get a peek at peter's tortured psyche (or mind). he keeps watching the clock and saying to himself that he wasn't going to go to the meeting, but knowing in the end that he would. i also liked to jokes about spider-woman.

i'm not sure i agree with whoever said it earlier: it seemed like it was too early for the traitor to be talking to the kingpin. it might be a bendis trick, but bendis has told us before that kingpin is a villian that spider-man is meant to keep fighting, but never actually beat. still, the traitor doesn't strike me as a guy who'd betray his friends.

mj's future looks more and more doubtful. i hoped bendis would be a little more subtle than just showing mj's strangelove arm. guess not.

it seems likely that jones has figured out peter's secret identity based on his reactions to kitty. that can't be good for peter.it would also explain why rohin is scheduled to break into midtown high and haul peter off somewhere. story leads to some interesting possibilities.

finally, did you notice which book kitty stuck her hand through as a demonstration? go back and take a look.

[Red Lotus]

I didn't get the issue, who's in the Knights line-up?

Spider-man, Daredevil, Doctor Strange, Shang-Chi, Iron Fist and Moon Knight.

[Arachnid]

Isn't Ultimate Bullseye kind of weak?

I heared his Ultimate version is just an assasin who dress up as other person and does not has his "can kill by throwing anything" abilitys from the 616 universe which where instandly givin to Ultimate Hawkeye.

Another reason why i have the feeling most Ultimate Villians are weaker then theire 616 counterpart.

Tell that to the green goblin. The only advantage his 616 counter part has over him is flight. He dominates in everything else. Same thing with Hobgoblin.

Then again, theres someone like Magneto, who is isanely powerful but still like half his 616 counter part.

[Omega Alpha]

Good issue. I loved Moon Knight's line on chicken wings. And i agree that is too soon for the traitor being revealed, although it was a good twist.

[TheUltimateMike]

Great issue, but I also wonder what is going on with Ultimate Dr. Strange, what his motivation is. I think Bagley is going out with a bang, great artwork! I thought the emotional links between Pete, MJ and Kitty were right on. I especially liked the way Spiderman jumped into the group and told the knights what was what, they all seemed to respect him. Best Marvel book going as usual.

[Lanowar]

My theory is that Daredevil already knows the identidy of the traitor and that inital meeting was mostly for show as they have another plan going on behind the scenes. DD has that ablity to hear someone's heart beat so he'll most likely have heard the traitors heart going 50MPH and put 2 and 2 together. Most likely why he has'nt been told DD's ID unlike Shang-Chi

[phantom1592]

My theory is that Daredevil already knows the identidy of the traitor and that inital meeting was mostly for show as they have another plan going on behind the scenes. DD has that ablity to hear someone's heart beat so he'll most likely have heard the traitors heart going 50MPH and put 2 and 2 together. Most likely why he has'nt been told DD's ID unlike Shang-Chi

First of all, I think it is AWESOME that they seem to be "shaking" up the Ultimate universe. Iron Fist doesn't HAVE to be a good guy here. We SHOULDN"T take anything for granted.

Secondly.... I don't think he is Evil. I think the traitor is simply plan B. Remember the goal was to get someone close to Kingpin that he could trust..... Mission acomplished.

[desanth]

My guess the 'traitor' is DD. What better way to get some official dirt on kingpin than to get him to get dirty while dealing with the knights. I doubt DD is planning on killing the kingpin, it never struck me as his style(at least in the 616).

Sounds like a cool issue though, definitely gotta get this one and read it.

[shaunyc56]

I liked Knights part of the story a lot, I think Iron Fist really is dirty, and their setting up a redemptive arc for him. Maybe Shang Chi decides he can't trust him anymore and he partners w/ a devoutly catholic 16 yr old Powerman:D :D :D

The first part of the book felt a little like "Spider-man's Creek", but, and heres the funny part, I kinda dug it. In my heart of hearts I prefer Ultimate Pete w/ Kitty, but I like the setup of a maybe a little love triangle here.

[Hi-Fi]

Excellent issue. I'm really digging the Marvel Knights line-up, but I wish Black Cat was a part of it, because I think she's hilarious and this storyarc is related to her. Maybe she'll appear in the next issues?

I'm feeling bad for Kitty.

[Spidercat]

Here's an idea that probably won't even appear for several more story arcs, but since people have been mentioning the Ultimate Knights need a female member and Ultimate Ronin will be appearing in the next issue, could Kitty Pryde end up joining the Knights as Ronin a few months (and by months I mean USM months, not our months) down the line?

It kinda makes sense -- Bendis has gone on record saying that the Ronin suit can be worn by anyone, male or female, who has currently lost their path in their ordinary vigilante or superhero identity. While the Ronin of this Ultimate Knights arc is probably Elektra (my guess), it's very possible someone else will take on the identity in the future especially since this is Bendis writing the story. Plus, Kitty is currently off her X-Men path and will need a new identity if she plans to fight crime in Spidey's neighborhood (and let's face it, even if Kitty wants to live a normal life, trouble has a way of finding superhumans, especially mutants). Masquerading as a male hero would probably be a safer bet for her since her mutant identity and status as a Midtown High student has become very public knowledge.

Other things that could play into this -- Ronin is a masterless samurai. Ultimate Kitty isn't the ninja her 616 counterpart is, but between her phasing powers and X-Men combat training she could be a dangerous adversary. And who knows -- if Daredevil accepts her into the Knights (and since he recruited Peter he will take on kids) she could learn some additional forms of martial arts from him or Shang Chi.

[Sebastos]

Yes, they were both in it. Iron Fist has a bigger part though.

Yeah I picked up the issue and I know what you mean. Though I don't think Iron Fist is the traitor, I think it's Dr. Strange using his tricks to pose as Iron Fist.


I liked Knights part of the story a lot, I think Iron Fist really is dirty, and their setting up a redemptive arc for him. Maybe Shang Chi decides he can't trust him anymore and he partners w/ a devoutly catholic 16 yr old Powerman:D :D :D

That be interesting if Bendis decides to do an Ultimate verison of the Heroes for Hire. :D

[desanth]

I actually read it now, Doc Strange doesn't make much sense at all being in the team, it's all probably a part of an elaborate plot. Loved UMK in this one too, heh, but I thought Kingpin saw his face too when Elektra shot a pic of him(or someone did).

I think Jess Jones will be onto something sooner or later, usually nosey reporter types get into the plot(Lois Lane, April O'Neil, etc ;) ) and get developed a bit.

One thing I don't like is the fact that Xavier died and Pete has no clue about it. It was on TV, you'd think he or MJ would've heard about it, but I'm guessing they don't want to go that route and are choosing to ignore events in UXM. That's 1 thing I don't like about 616 is when things don't go together, in UM you'd think it'd be easier to keep track of since there are a lot less titles.

[matt levin]

I'd dropped this title after about 90+ consecutive issues; got tired of it. Picked up this issue because, frankly, I like the guest stars.... but....

spidercat's right: "--it's weird seeing Dr. Strange act so... juvenile."

and here it is for me: seems all the characters were so out of...character: DD advocating murder? Doc Strange acting so...juvenile? Shang Chi abetting murder? no, no, not for me.

do hope Danny Rand is a set-up by Bendis, otherwise--yet another character way out of character. Moonknight, Moonknight was played right for me. One out of too many others. And is Jessica Jones meant to be the same Jess Jones of "Alias" but younger? Naw, too much out of whack for me. Will try this series again only in several months' time, I guess, if then.

Matt

[Sparda]

I'd dropped this title after about 90+ consecutive issues; got tired of it. Picked up this issue because, frankly, I like the guest stars.... but....

spidercat's right: "--it's weird seeing Dr. Strange act so... juvenile."

and here it is for me: seems all the characters were so out of...character: DD advocating murder? Doc Strange acting so...juvenile? Shang Chi abetting murder? no, no, not for me.

do hope Danny Rand is a set-up by Bendis, otherwise--yet another character way out of character. Moonknight, Moonknight was played right for me. One out of too many others. And is Jessica Jones meant to be the same Jess Jones of "Alias" but younger? Naw, too much out of whack for me. Will try this series again only in several months' time, I guess, if then.

Matt
You can't honestly expect these character's to be the same like thier 616 counterparts? Thier completely different, Strange is just new to the ball game, Shang Chi looks more human in wanting to kill Kingpin after being frustrated that his way does'nt help and takes the easy way, Moonknight, well he's a phycho so no comment there lol, and DD would be the most reasonable being (if the origin occurs in this verse as well) that Fatty killed his father, so he wants revenge. Ultimate universe has same concepts of characters but different personalities.

Besides, there's gotta be more going on than meet's the eye.

[phantom1592]

Exactly. this is the Ultimate Universe. Anything can happen. The characters are NOT SUPPOSED to be the same. DD advocating killing does seem horribly wrong to me though. HE"S had a few appearances. He fought Punisher for killing crooks. He was also in the Elektra minis. Don't remember what happened anymore, but I'm pretty sure he was spot on with his 616 character.

Shang chi and Iron fist.... they're pretty new. they can be anything. Doc Strange has a bit of an ulitmate origin too. He's actually the SON of the real Dr. Strange who disappeared years ago. Now he's "learning" the magic. He is in no way the serious adult sorceror supreme/master of the mystic arts that we know.

[MrPunch0]

Here's an idea that probably won't even appear for several more story arcs, but since people have been mentioning the Ultimate Knights need a female member and Ultimate Ronin will be appearing in the next issue, could Kitty Pryde end up joining the Knights as Ronin a few months (and by months I mean USM months, not our months) down the line?

After this issue, I assumed that Ronin was going to be the new identity one of these guys will take on to get close to Fisk.

[Spiderboy-Prime]

pretty good issue, liked the maturity of Peter when he talked to the rest of the Knights, And knowin Ult. Spidey i doubt hes gonna stay as a permanent member of the team. Im glad Kitty FINALLY got her say in this whole triangle, im still hoping for her and Peter to get back together somehow.

[Red Lotus]

Maybe DD telling Peter that they were going to kill the Kingpin was DD way of testing Peter. It didn't seem like Strange new anything about a plan to kill the Kingpin. DD might have told everyone something different to try to get them there.

The thing about this Dr. Strange is he much younger then the 616. I think he might be in his early 20. So I was ok with how he acted.

[Omega Alpha]

Maybe DD telling Peter that they were going to kill the Kingpin was DD way of testing Peter. It didn't seem like Strange new anything about a plan to kill the Kingpin. DD might have told everyone something different to try to get them there.

Interesting idea.



The thing about this Dr. Strange is he much younger then the 616. I think he might be in his early 20. So I was ok with how he acted.

Yes, he's in his early 20's. Which makes it harder for him to be used as an Deus Ex Machina, since he's not that powerful.

[Kefky]

Guys, it's perfectly normal for ultimate DD to want to kill the Kingpin. As written by Bendis, he's always been that crazy and extreme. He's like what would happen if MU DD just stopped caring and gave in to his "wild" side for good.

To be honest, I think this arc's going to be his "rude awakening" of sorts.

[sephirothskiller]

Guys, it's perfectly normal for ultimate DD to want to kill the Kingpin. As written by Bendis, he's always been that crazy and extreme. He's like what would happen if MU DD just stopped caring and gave in to his "wild" side for good.


Lets not forget that people change. A nun can become a serial killer if put through the right trauma, and superheroes have to deal with alot of trauma. I can see DD simply becoming edgier, or being all analytical about it and thinking about the number of lives that killing one man could save.

[saintsaucey]

this is a responce to the (edited due to content) who mentioned that he wouldn't read the series for a few months one of his reason's were that jessica jones is the same chick from alias only younger. um she;s actually older you (edited due to content). in the 616 universe she was the same age as peter parker and had a crush on him in high school but was too chicken to do anything about it. she also fantasized about johnny storm while masturbating. (bendis is a dirty man) so she's actually older than her character in 616 because she's older than peter and johnny.

and she is so the new ronin.

also ultimate luke cage already appeared in ultimates 2 like issue sevn i think. he was a member of the deffenders

[Arilou]

and she is so the new ronin.


Ooooh.... THAT's a neat idea!

[killerbass]

OK, so I only half-read all of the posts... LOL

But did anyone notice that there were flowers from "Miles" for Aunt May? That would be Miles Warren, the doctor that was hypnotizing Harry for his dad Norman... and the same guy that Aunt May spent the night with, not too long ago. :D

Also, I think Jessica Jones noticed the sourpuss that Peter had on and suspects that he's Spider-Man, or at the very least that he knows something about Spider-Man & Kitty.

Most of the rest of you made all of my points for me... Thanks!

--Tom

[Spidercat]

OK, so I only half-read all of the posts... LOL

But did anyone notice that there were flowers from "Miles" for Aunt May? That would be Miles Warren, the doctor that was hypnotizing Harry for his dad Norman... and the same guy that Aunt May spent the night with, not too long ago. :D


Actually, I think Miles Warren may very well become MJ's new psychiatrist -- she keeps feeling she needs one with all the trauma in her life and now that Aunt May knows Peter's secret, she might want MJ to confide in the doctor. More bad news for MJ if this is the case... especially since she was (is?) the Demogoblin.

[killerbass]

especially since she was (is?) the Demogoblin.

Yeah, did anyone see how MJ grabs her wrist, while Peter is talking with Kitty?

Methinks she may still be the Demogoblin...

--Tom

[megabyte01]

OK, so I only half-read all of the posts... LOL

But did anyone notice that there were flowers from "Miles" for Aunt May? That would be Miles Warren, the doctor that was hypnotizing Harry for his dad Norman... and the same guy that Aunt May spent the night with, not too long ago. :D

Also, I think Jessica Jones noticed the sourpuss that Peter had on and suspects that he's Spider-Man, or at the very least that he knows something about Spider-Man & Kitty.

Most of the rest of you made all of my points for me... Thanks!

--Tom

i missed that! there was a card, and several flowers, from miles warren. i'm starting to think it's a different miles warren, one that isn't working for osborn. only time will tell i guess.

i'm pretty sure jessica jones suspects something about peter and kitty. I don't think she's the new ronin as some have suggested, but i wouldn't write it off as a posibility.

[Xanrn]

Bah I hope MJ tries to eat Kitty and gets put down.

[sgt pepper]

This title is so so back on form. If you gave up on this title because it went kind of wonky over the last year, get back on.

[Erik B]

Im on 56k here and trying to check all the pages is running slow. Did anyone mention the "real reason" as to why Kitty left the X-men, because right now continuity in The Ultimate Universe seems to be taking a nose dive

[sgt pepper]

Im on 56k here and trying to check all the pages is running slow. Did anyone mention the "real reason" as to why Kitty left the X-men, because right now continuity in The Ultimate Universe seems to be taking a nose dive

Yeah, it's never gonna make sense. Do yourself a favor and don't think about it too much.

[Spidercat]

Im on 56k here and trying to check all the pages is running slow. Did anyone mention the "real reason" as to why Kitty left the X-men, because right now continuity in The Ultimate Universe seems to be taking a nose dive


True -- my thinking is that Bendis is ignoring a lot of Ultimate X-Men stuff (from recent events to Kitty's portrayal in the books). Since so many writers have been involved in UXM, it's not surprising that Bendis would want to ignore some of the convaluted stuff in there.

From a "No Prize" perspective, I believe Kitty was asked to leave the X-Men in a private conversation with Professor X following the events of USM Clone Saga, but Kitty tried to save face with the rest of the X-Men by telling all of them that leaving the team was her choice, although she decided to be honest with Peter.


By the way, I'm wondering -- does MJ know about her tranformation into Demogoblin? She knows that she was abducted by a clone of Peter and that he injected her with Oz -- but she seems to have blocked the actual transformation from her memory, and neither Peter nor the FF has been shown telling her that she turned into a giant hairy monster.

Wonder how MJ will react if she transforms again -- and realizes that Peter's clone mutated her because of a sick and twisted version of the protectiveness the real Peter feels for her?

[Wombat 909]

I hope that Ultimate Kinights gets better soon because its a little boring now

[Sebastos]

Really? I think it's a great arc so far...

[Spiderboy-Prime]

I hope that Ultimate Kinights gets better soon because its a little boring now

give it some time the last two issues have just been the set up part theres still 3 more issues to go

[Wombat 909]

yeah i will
I hope this doesnt flop down like the Deadpool arc though

[ultimatespyder20]

Doc Strange, Moon Knight, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, Spidey..... This has the making for a great arc. Iron Fist as the traitor seems interesting, can't wait to see how that plays out. I'm wondering what Moon Knight's new identity will be. The scene with Kitty was great, and Mj with her hand.....could the goblin be coming back?

Alec

[Wombat 909]

I heard there is an upcoming arc named "Death of the Goblin" but Bendis would not say if Harry or Norman would die

[xarathos]

Yeah, it's never gonna make sense. Do yourself a favor and don't think about it too much.

I've read some Ultimate Spider-man recently and here are my thoughts.

I think what they should do is end the Ultimate books. Take out the Totem Spider-man that was made by JMS and somehow replace him with the Ultimate Spidey, which seems more like Spider-man than whatever they're putting out now in the regular Marvel Universe.

I don't know how you could do that, but it would be better thant Sins Past or Unmasked magical mess that has been made. Where's Jonah?

[megabyte01]

I heard there is an upcoming arc named "Death of the Goblin" but Bendis would not say if Harry or Norman would die

what if the goblin they are refering to is mj? the fact that mj's 'condition' is constantly mentioned seems like an anvil-sized hint that something bad will happen to her soon.

[ultimatespyder20]

If they have to kill one of the goblins then let it be Mj. I don't see why they would have to kill off Norman or Harry. The two have have barely been used, they have so much story potential in them. I'd hate to see Mj go though, but maybe it will just be the death of her goblin half or something, but I'm not sure if that would be a good reador not. Bendis would really have to work to sell it to me.

Alec

[Sebastos]

Doc Strange, Moon Knight, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, Spidey..... This has the making for a great arc. Iron Fist as the traitor seems interesting, can't wait to see how that plays out. I'm wondering what Moon Knight's new identity will be. The scene with Kitty was great, and Mj with her hand.....could the goblin be coming back?

Alec

Yeah I think Iron Fist as the traitor should be interesting. I wonder what Bendis has in store for him in this arc...

[Joe Acro]

Would it kill Bendis to read Ultimate X-Men?

Despite that slight (potentially explanable) continuity glitch, I really did enjoy this issue. I hope that there's a good explanation for why Iron Fist would help Kingpin, though.

[MythicBrawn]

Would it kill Bendis to read Ultimate X-Men?

Despite that slight (potentially explanable) continuity glitch, I really did enjoy this issue. I hope that there's a good explanation for why Iron Fist would help Kingpin, though.

Iron Fist said it. He didn't want to go back to jail. Personally, I hope it's all part of the plan. Or, Daredevil wasn't sure of everyone's loyalty so he put it out there to test them. His heightened senses would certainly give him some insight into the people around him.

[van_line]

geldoff=ronin

what is bendis' obsession with Ronin?

[Spidercat]

geldoff=ronin

what is bendis' obsession with Ronin?

I actually think the concept behind Ronin is pretty cool -- a faceless identity that can be temporarily assumed by any character who has lost his or her path.

Of course, that's how Ronin is done in 616. I'm not sure if the Ultimate version will be similar or different.

[megabyte01]

Would it kill Bendis to read Ultimate X-Men?

i think he decided to keep what happened during the cable arc a secret since there is a massive spoiler Xavior dies in the story. but everyone on this forum already knows that!

[ultimatespyder20]

Hey, I thought of this idea this morning. Moon Knight is going to create a new identity to get into Fisk Towers, right? Could Moon Knight's new identity be Ronin? I hope not, I mean we all say that we hate how Bendis ultimizes some new character every arc, but do we really want to see Ult. Moon Knight, who is a really cool character who has barely been used, turn into someone else? I know I don't. I hope I'm wrong.

Alec

[Toboe]

Hey, I thought of this idea this morning. Moon Knight is going to create a new identity to get into Fisk Towers, right? Could Moon Knight's new identity be Ronin? I hope not, I mean we all say that we hate how Bendis ultimizes some new character every arc, but do we really want to see Ult. Moon Knight, who is a really cool character who has barely been used, turn into someone else? I know I don't. I hope I'm wrong.

Alec

Holy crap... you're right... right now everything points that Moon Knight will take Ronin's identity to work for the Kingpin, and the Kingpin will send him after Spider-Man, which would be why Ronin shows up at Peter's school...
Although I hate the idea of Moon Knight as Ronin...

[megabyte01]

Hey, I thought of this idea this morning. Moon Knight is going to create a new identity to get into Fisk Towers, right? Could Moon Knight's new identity be Ronin? I hope not, I mean we all say that we hate how Bendis ultimizes some new character every arc, but do we really want to see Ult. Moon Knight, who is a really cool character who has barely been used, turn into someone else? I know I don't. I hope I'm wrong.

Alec

it's been confirmed. here's a preview #108 from ign.com

http://comics.ign.com/articles/780/780563p1.html