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SUPERECWFAN1
03-27-2007, 09:08 PM
Time for a ECW Review people....


The Good

ECW kicks off the show after the long extended video package airs. Its pretty humerous to think that this is considered a good thing for Lashley as he's already facing a hard road of acceptance by many fans and now the owner pins him....TWICE !

Anyhow the wise booking says to book a strong opener and its Rob Van Dam vs Elijah Burke. Now I have to say this...Burke/RVD has seen a lotta good in ring matches and this weeks tops their past encounters. Burke sells for Rob like a f-ckin pro ! I legit was scared for Burke at how twisted up he got as Rob dived over the top rope onto him.

Rob wins after the 12 to 15 match as he nails the 5 star after Burke makes a mistake. The New Breed hit the ring and starts a beatdown as the ECW Orginals bails em out.

Backstage Edge meets up with his relunctant team mates as CM Punk wonders why they should even trust him. Edge runs it down on how he's won MIB before and that as a team they should see the bigger prize ahead at Wrestlemania. Ok...I want Edge vs Punk: ECW World title match now !

Backstage Finley runs into Kennedy and Orton talking as the 2 say it wasn't about Finley. They walk off as King Booker walks up as he wants to know what the 2 were saying as Fit lies and claims the 2 were dissing him. The KING isn't happy as he tells Finley they need to band togethor as Finley laughs him off.

Vince and Lashley have their TV debate. The 2 men have a debate on the issues of McMahon beating Lashley ect ect. Vince is so long winded the only things that help is him insulting Grand Rapids Mchigan.

The best possible thing to come from this. Angry Lashley as he says he's gonna walk out a shaved balded headed bas-rd at Wrestlemania. That was it...short , angry and sweet as fans pop for that line . No smiling...

The Main Event is next and its a pretty hot match as the Hardyz are the crowd favorites. CM Punk plays the Ricky Morton role and gets a beating but fights back as he finally makes the hot tag to Edge who looks in suprised.

Then as Edge looks to nail the spear on Booker T , he runs back and tags Punk , as we watch Punk exchange some hot words to Edge ! The 2 have a better natural fued than Orton/Edge now. I'd love to see CM Punk show up on RAW and trash Edge. Punk takes a blow from Finley's weapon as he gets the loss. At least they had him take a beatdown and didn't straight bury him ala the Holly match from months pass.

The show ends as the Hardyz destroy every heel there and accidently bust Finley open with a ladder. They both climb up and yank on the briefcase as the 2 brothers will be fighting for it at Wrestlemania !

The Bad

Now its time for comedy. As Gene Snitsky comes out to bury Balls Mahoney. Its so horrificly heatless that no one gives a damn. This is what Dave Lagana is building up to face Lashley at the ECW PPV ? Jesus....Lashley's f-cked as this guy has zero heat as no one buys into him. God almighty words can't describe why they keep putting Snitsky on TV.

OVERALL: *** oUTTA 5. Good Vignettes and 2 solid matches. Then you have your comedy match as Snitsky comes out and can't even draw heel heat against Mahoney. Again how many more months will Lagana waste on this guy before he realizes....its not working. Moving jobbers from Heat and giving them makeovers doesn't equal success.

marshal99
03-27-2007, 09:18 PM
Oh right , so you still think Punk is still being "punished" and buried ?

This deserves the homer simpson "doh" of the day
http://atangledweb.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/homer_bigdoh.gif

SUPERECWFAN1
03-27-2007, 09:30 PM
Oh right , so you still think Punk is still being "punished" and buried ?


Uhhh where does it even say that ? I said at least he lost to a good way. Not buried as he was months ago.

marshal99
03-27-2007, 09:33 PM
Yeah , but your phrasing seemed to imply that he's still being buried , just not buried in the same manner as the Holly loss. ;)

DWEarhart
03-27-2007, 09:36 PM
Burke and RVD was good for Double Double E material.

The shaved albino ape will fight and lose to Lashley, and then disappear back into the depths of mediocrity from which he oozed.

It was refreshing to see the Hardys using a ladder again. My money's still on Kennedy to win the MITB as well.

Those few moments together made me want to see a Finlay vs Punk sometime soon, and Ize gotz tuh luv those two finger tags by the King. ALL HAIL KING BOOKAH.

SUPERECWFAN1
03-27-2007, 09:49 PM
The shaved albino ape will fight and lose to Lashley, and then disappear back into the depths of mediocrity from which he oozed.


How many do you know who will pay $ 39.95 to watch this guy lose to Lashley ?

DWEarhart
03-27-2007, 09:58 PM
How many do you know who will pay $ 39.95 to watch this guy lose to Lashley ?

We'll find out when the buyrates come in, because people will still buy it; mostly parents of teens and pre-teens who have no idea what a good wrestling show is and never will.

I personally don't care if they do or do not spend money because they're not spending my money. They earned theirs, they can squander it any way they choose.

marshal99
03-27-2007, 10:04 PM
How many do you know who will pay $ 39.95 to watch this guy lose to Lashley ?

With WWE dissolving its brand only PPV , a Lashley/Snitsky match will be a undercard to a John Cena or Undertaker match.

Young Avenger
03-27-2007, 10:09 PM
Uhhh where does it even say that ? I said at least he lost to a good way. Not buried as he was months ago.

CM Punk jobbing to Holly is not a burial. Especially since he has only four televised losses and is still be pushed. Seriously, where's the burial?

DWEarhart
03-27-2007, 10:11 PM
CM Punk jobbing to Holly is not a burial. Especially since he has only four televised losses and is still be pushed. Seriously, where's the burial?

Punk losing to Holly was punishment towards Punk without Punk even knowing it was punishment.

sgt.candy
03-27-2007, 10:12 PM
bob holly is the future of wrestling. fool

SUPERECWFAN1
03-27-2007, 10:22 PM
CM Punk jobbing to Holly is not a burial. Especially since he has only four televised losses and is still be pushed. Seriously, where's the burial?

People could understand if Punk was gonna lose by tights or like tonight. Instead he dropped a clean match to Holly by Arn Anderson's urging backstage. It was heat Punk had with guys backstage that caused it.

I'm sorry when the future of the brand is jobbing to a man who's man claim to fame is punkin some kids ass on Tough Enough and carrying a scale to the ring , there shouldn't even be discussing it. But as AA said Holly was a 14 year veteran and Punk had dues to pay. ( F-cking foolisness as usual )

bob holly is the future of wrestling. fool

Man I wonder if they look back and think....boy was that a stupid ass killing mistake. Had hot un-defeated wrestler with good win streak and we job him to absolute worst way possible.

Young Avenger
03-27-2007, 10:31 PM
People could understand if Punk was gonna lose by tights or like tonight. Instead he dropped a clean match to Holly by Arn Anderson's urging backstage. It was heat Punk had with guys backstage that caused it.

I'm sorry when the future of the brand is jobbing to a man who's man claim to fame is punkin some kids ass on Tough Enough and carrying a scale to the ring , there shouldn't even be discussing it. But as AA said Holly was a 14 year veteran and Punk had dues to pay. ( F-cking foolisness as usual )

Sure it was bulls**t politics that caused Punk to job clean to Holly but the loss didn't have any negative effects on Punk. Punk is still being pushed, the fans still care about him and gets tv time every week. It's time for you to get over the Holly loss.

marshal99
03-27-2007, 10:31 PM
Seriously , do you think anyone really cared about the Holly loss now ?! Punk has hardly been buried , a burial is when someone keeps getting beaten over and over in every match. Instead , Punk still get plenty of airtime and plenty of victories along the way , hardly a burial.

SUPERECWFAN1
03-27-2007, 10:48 PM
Sure it was bulls**t politics that caused Punk to job clean to Holly but the loss didn't have any negative effects on Punk. Punk is still being pushed, the fans still care about him and gets tv time every week. It's time for you to get over the Holly loss.

Seriously , do you think anyone really cared about the Holly loss now ?! Punk has hardly been buried , a burial is when someone keeps getting beaten over and over in every match. Instead , Punk still get plenty of airtime and plenty of victories along the way , hardly a burial.

Did anyone read the Review ? I've even said had Punk lost like this in a way that made him look strong it wouldn't have been such a bad thing. And besides , thats their f-ck up since they killed a big potential PPV clash with Lashley down the line having 2 un-defeated guys clash on a PPV.

Young Avenger
03-27-2007, 11:04 PM
Did anyone read the Review ? I've even said had Punk lost like this in a way that made him look strong it wouldn't have been such a bad thing. And besides , thats their f-ck up since they killed a big potential PPV clash with Lashley down the line having 2 un-defeated guys clash on a PPV.

Punk hasn't even face guys like Sabu and RVD yet and your already thinking of a title match against Lashley?

lboinyamouf4sho
03-28-2007, 02:52 AM
How many do you know who will pay $ 39.95 to watch this guy lose to Lashley ?

it depends on what else is on the card, i've ordered quite a few TNA ppvs w/o giving a shit about the mainevent.

i see your point though. it would help if when snitski squashed somebody he would actually, you know, beat them up.

We'll find out when the buyrates come in, because people will still buy it; mostly parents of teens and pre-teens who have no idea what a good wrestling show is and never will.


all they need to know is if they enjoyed it or not, that's all that really matters.



Man I wonder if they look back and think....boy was that a stupid ass killing mistake. Had hot un-defeated wrestler with good win streak and we job him to absolute worst way possible.

i doubt it, things have worked out pretty well i think. punk still hasn't avenged that loss, holly seems to give him problems, now when he beats holly decisively it will mean a little something. a match with hardcore holly will mean something, that is an accomplishment.

. And besides , thats their f-ck up since they killed a big potential PPV clash with Lashley down the line having 2 un-defeated guys clash on a PPV.

but lashley wasn't and isn't undefeated.

DWEarhart
03-28-2007, 05:31 AM
all they need to know is if they enjoyed it or not, that's all that really matters.


Exactly. Different strokes and all that.

Erik Lehnsherr
03-28-2007, 06:22 AM
Very good show and I'll tell you why. Now f*ck the Snitsky part of it. He sucks and probably always will. Burke vs RVD was a good match but they had some miscues. Still..it was good to see Burke break out the Texas Cloverleaf. My favorite submission finisher behind Sting's Scorpion Deathlok.

Ariel rules with the New Breed tanktop. Nuff said.

King Booker and Edge got the most heel heat during the main event. The crowd chanted "Booker SUCKS" and "Edge is GAY" at them at the right momemnts. Kennedy, Finlay, and Orton got absolutely NO REACTION. CM Punk was the most over of the faces and the crowd only got into the Hardyz when they brought in the ladder. Of course they had Finlay do his onscreen burial of CM Punk. Not surprised.

And of course the most underrated moment of ECW was the Expose. Why? Why would I say that? Because I had to rewind the Layla splits part about 3x to make sure but yeah..I saw flesh camel toe and that was perfection. Layla= Diva of the Year right now.

BTW, why the HELL is anyone defending Holly? Holly is a piece of garbage that should of been released a LONG time ago.

JDogindy
03-28-2007, 06:31 AM
The shaved albino ape will fight and lose to Lashley, and then disappear back into the depths of mediocrity from which he oozed.


In all honesty, I had no idea who the hell was Umaga until I saw the Smackdown event where he annihalated an injured Rey Mysterio. And frankly, I can do without looking at that guy. I'm amazed they let him into Conseco Fieldhouse a week ago on Raw.

Yeah, Lashley got out his words after McMahon wussied out the previous night and let his "troops" try to take him down, before giving a cheap shot that virtually tossed the fight in favor of said ape.

Of course, I think wrestling is a bit choregraphed, so it's more than likely we WILL see the "evil heel" shaved bald. And it'll be a smash hit on YouTube (once taped and uploaded) as the Trump shaves down the guy everyone hates.

Besides, we're only going to watch Wrestlemania for the Deadman vs. Batista and the "Money in the Bank" matches.

lboinyamouf4sho
03-28-2007, 06:41 AM
In all honesty, I had no idea who the hell was Umaga until I saw the Smackdown event where he annihalated an injured Rey Mysterio. And frankly, I can do without looking at that guy. I'm amazed they let him into Conseco Fieldhouse a week ago on Raw.




don't let the gimmick fool you, that is a damn good wrestler.

JDogindy
03-28-2007, 07:14 AM
don't let the gimmick fool you, that is a damn good wrestler.

Yeah. I clearly saw that a few times. He's hard to pick up, and he's very hard to bring down.

Give him the advantage, and he'll virtually crush you by ramming his gut into your head near a post.

He's a freaking tank, yes, but I can still do without him.

titanfan
03-28-2007, 08:27 AM
I thought Umaga did almost all of the heavy lifting during his match with John Cena.


Oh right , so you still think Punk is still being "punished" and buried ?

(whispers) Well he (and Edge) are the only ones without a win over another MITB contender, isn't he?

BTW, why the HELL is anyone defending Holly? Holly is a piece of garbage that should of been released a LONG time ago.

I don't like him personally, as he comes off as an ass in real life, but his ECW ring work has been excellent, imho. It's hard to think of him as anything other than a 10-year jobber, but it's not because he hasn't been performing well in the ring. CM Punk losing to him wasn't really a burial--as they were planning to give Holly a big push--he did beat RVD the next week.

SnowTrooper
03-28-2007, 01:12 PM
CM Punk was never buried, he was de-pushed for like 4 or 5 weeks though, if he was buried he'd be part of a tag-team with Val Venis right now.

(In no particular order) He lost to Holly, lost to Striker, wasnt on TV for a week, got beat up by Snitsky, and BAM hes getting pushed again because hes the only success to come out of WWECW.

Speaking of Snitsky I thought it was funny how he couldnt get any heel heat at all last night. Even after destroying the fans favorite jobber and sticking his ugly mug out for the audience to see clearly.

clayholio
03-28-2007, 01:15 PM
CM Punk was never buried, he was de-pushed for like 4 or 5 weeks though, if he was buried he'd be part of a tag-team with Val Venis right now.

(In no particular order) He lost to Holly, lost to Striker, wasnt on TV for a week, got beat up by Snitsky, and BAM hes getting pushed again because hes the only success to come out of WWECW.

Speaking of Snitsky I thought it was funny how he couldnt get any heel heat at all last night. Even after destroying the fans favorite jobber and sticking his ugly mug out for the audience to see clearly.

I don't mind if Punk loses. In fact, he needs to lose for the New Breed's offer to have any appeal. If he's a killing machine that never loses, why would he want anyone else's help?

mistervader
03-28-2007, 01:18 PM
It doesn't feel like ECW at all. At the very least, more extreme rules matches should really help them out, but they refuse to do something commonsensical like that...

SnowTrooper
03-28-2007, 01:26 PM
It doesn't feel like ECW at all. At the very least, more extreme rules matches should really help them out, but they refuse to do something commonsensical like that...

I think its funny how the new ECW's version of Extreme is 1 chair being used 3 different ways in a match.

SnowTrooper
03-28-2007, 01:30 PM
I don't mind if Punk loses. In fact, he needs to lose for the New Breed's offer to have any appeal. If he's a killing machine that never loses, why would he want anyone else's help?

I think Punk should lose too, but dont make him look like a bitch when you do it. His loss last night was fine because it was through nefarious means, his loss to Striker was fine because of nefarious means. Clean losses to moves that dont look remotely devastating such as the Alabama Slam and the Green Bay Meatpacker are the bad ones.

Arune Singh
03-28-2007, 01:36 PM
I think its funny how the new ECW's version of Extreme is 1 chair being used 3 different ways in a match.

I wonder if HHH and Edge might work well in ECW since they use weapons so much.

Royal
03-28-2007, 01:41 PM
I wonder if HHH and Edge might work well in ECW since they use weapons so much.

THHHor only comes out for the people he loves to hate.

lboinyamouf4sho
03-29-2007, 01:50 AM
CM Punk was never buried, he was de-pushed for like 4 or 5 weeks though, if he was buried he'd be part of a tag-team with Val Venis right now.

(In no particular order) He lost to Holly, lost to Striker, wasnt on TV for a week, got beat up by Snitsky, and BAM hes getting pushed again because hes the only success to come out of WWECW.

Speaking of Snitsky I thought it was funny how he couldnt get any heel heat at all last night. Even after destroying the fans favorite jobber and sticking his ugly mug out for the audience to see clearly.

you forgot he also beat stevie richards before getting booted by snitski.

snitski's gives the gentlest squash i've ever seen, it's just a soft kick, he's so sensitive and considerate when destroying a man.

I think its funny how the new ECW's version of Extreme is 1 chair being used 3 different ways in a match.

i think less is more approach could be good, take rey vs chavo:i quit match, 2 men 1 chair, great match, no tables, tacks, or ladders needed. it takes alot more talent to pull that off, but i do agree for it being called ECW they should kick it up a little more than they do.

I think Punk should lose too, but dont make him look like a bitch when you do it. His loss last night was fine because it was through nefarious means, his loss to Striker was fine because of nefarious means. Clean losses to moves that dont look remotely devastating such as the Alabama Slam and the Green Bay Meatpacker are the bad ones.

i don't think it made him look like a bitch, why does it have to be through nefarious means for him to lose a match and it to be fine?? it's not like he lost to jobbers, holly was getting a big push at the time and is still booked strong in ECW. i also disagree that the alabama slam and the meatpacker don't look legit as finishers.

SUPERECWFAN1
03-29-2007, 10:30 AM
Again for the record....just because you go on TV doesn't mean you aren't being buried in some ways. Nitro and Punk had been on TV from Jan to Feb. but neithor man had a program and in Nitro's case he may suffer for Mercury's release.

clayholio
03-29-2007, 10:36 AM
Again for the record....just because you go on TV doesn't mean you aren't being buried in some ways. Nitro and Punk had been on TV from Jan to Feb. but neithor man had a program and in Nitro's case he may suffer for Mercury's release.

I'm just not seeing how Nitro will suffer from Mercury's release. If nothing else, I'm convinced that they wouldn't put either Mercury or Nitro in any storylines because they couldn't figure out one way or the other if MNM was a full-time unit. Now that Nitro's solo, they might actually have him doing something other than kicking Lashley a couple of times and then getting destroyed.

DaveEB
03-29-2007, 11:06 AM
Who else wanted to see Punk push the Hardy's off that ladder(or push that tall ass ladder over) at the end of ECW the other night? I think it would've been an awesome way to go into Mania with him left standing in the ECW ring all by himself...protecting the ECW turf...but it likely would have literally killed the Hardy's...

Scott Evil
03-29-2007, 11:20 AM
Who else wanted to see Punk push the Hardy's off that ladder(or push that tall ass ladder over) at the end of ECW the other night? I think it would've been an awesome way to go into Mania with him left standing in the ECW ring all by himself...protecting the ECW turf...but it likely would have literally killed the Hardy's...

Yup- that ladder was waaaay taller then it had to be. I loved the look on their face when they almost climbed past the briefcase. And since I do not condone spot-monkey-isms, I hope they leave that ladder at home. I can't imagine any spot landing softly off of that thing.

SnowTrooper
03-29-2007, 04:16 PM
you forgot he also beat stevie richards before getting booted by snitski.

snitski's gives the gentlest squash i've ever seen, it's just a soft kick, he's so sensitive and considerate when destroying a man.

I forgot about his match with Stevie Richards, the one where he played face-in-peril the whole time to a guy that wasnt on TV in 5 months.

i think less is more approach could be good, take rey vs chavo:i quit match, 2 men 1 chair, great match, no tables, tacks, or ladders needed. it takes alot more talent to pull that off, but i do agree for it being called ECW they should kick it up a little more than they do.

1 chair in a match is fine if its used right, RVD knows how to use a chair right in a match. Pulling out a chair in the last 2 minutes of a 15 minute match and only hitting somebody in the back 3 times like Lashley does is dull, especially during an extreme rules match.

i don't think it made him look like a bitch, why does it have to be through nefarious means for him to lose a match and it to be fine?? it's not like he lost to jobbers, holly was getting a big push at the time and is still booked strong in ECW. i also disagree that the alabama slam and the meatpacker don't look legit as finishers.

Punks loss to Mr. Kennedy on Smackdown seemed a little bitch-like to me, I still think Punk is awesome but a loss to the Green Bay Meatpacker would make any guy look like a bitch. If Kennedy had given him the Meatpacker and then a Kenton Bomb it would have been fine to me.

lboinyamouf4sho
03-29-2007, 04:58 PM
Again for the record....just because you go on TV doesn't mean you aren't being buried in some ways.

just because someone is not getting pushed does not mean they're getting buried in some way. if that's the case then most of the roster is getting buried in some way.

I forgot about his match with Stevie Richards, the one where he played face-in-peril the whole time to a guy that wasnt on TV in 5 months.





Punks loss to Mr. Kennedy on Smackdown seemed a little bitch-like to me, I still think Punk is awesome but a loss to the Green Bay Meatpacker would make any guy look like a bitch. If Kennedy had given him the Meatpacker and then a Kenton Bomb it would have been fine to me.

i think he plays that role much better, he really isn't very good as the dominate monster face. he doesn't have the right size or look for it.

i got no problem with that move, looks like more impact than a kenton to me.