Throwing away my comics.

[fly on the wall]

I said I was going to throw away a lot of old comics that I no longer wanted to ever read, but then I dragged my feet about it. I just couldn't get myself to do it.

I threw away about 20 really bad comics, but couldn't get myself to really do it.

Well, I finally did it. In the last two weeks hundreds maybe thousands of comics went into the recycle bin. Here's a list of who went in the dumper:

Byrne Wonder Woman
Byrne Doom Patrol.
De Falco/Ryan FF.
Most recent Spider-man comics from clone days on up.
Most post-Byrne Superman comics.
Genesis, of course.
Most Post Marshal Rogers Silver Surfer comics.
Most post Perez Wonder Woman comics.
Recent Green Lantern Corps comics.
All Civil War comics.
All "The Initiative" comics.
Spirit of Vengeance, Omac, Rann-Thanagar War and that other pre-Infinite Crisis thing that Gail did.
All Kyle Rayner Green Lanterns.

And many others.

So if you were to cull your collection which would you throw out?

And oddly enough even after throwing away so many comics that I had to stop lest the recycle bin get to heavy, I still have way too many comics.

[Matthew E]

I wouldn't throw any of them out. Are you kidding me? I'd sell them or give them to a school or Goodwill or something.

[fly on the wall]

Also most of my Waid Flashes and all my Geoff Johns Flashes.

I'm currently debating whether to keep the Geoff Johns JSA comics.

I threw out many JSA comics except the current Metzer run, the Morrison run and the Giffen run.

[fly on the wall]

I wouldn't throw any of them out. Are you kidding me? I'd sell them or give them to a school or Goodwill or something.

I've got too many of them to waste time with any of that. We're talking convenience here. I'm aborting my comic books not putting them up for adoption.

[The Shadow]

Give em to a Children's Hospital or Kids ward or something... a charity even... don't throw em out!!!

[The Shadow]

I've got too many of them to waste time with any of that.

Put in a box... take to Hospital.

You don't have time for that? :confused:

Some kid with cancer could probably use the pick-me-up and you don't want to "to waste time with any of that"? Lame man... cold and lame. :mad:

[fly on the wall]

Put in a box... take to Hospital.

You don't have time for that? :confused:

Some kid with cancer could probably use the pick-me-up and you don't want to "to waste time with any of that"? Lame man... cold and lame. :mad:

Comics these days feature cannabilism and gruesome murders. The mothers of the kids in the hospital would probably complain about comics dumped there.

And getting rid of clutter is not a bad thing to do. I'm drowning in clutter. Either I get rid of stuff or go buy a bigger house to live in, and bigger houses in my neighborhood cost a million dollars.

I'm throwing away all kinds of things, not just comics. It's just that I've wisely become aware that there is nothing special about comic books. Clutter is clutter.

It's like if I saved all the newspaper funnies for the last forty years. Things would pile up after awhile.

[Matt Algren]

I'm actually doing the same thing, though more slowly. I don't have room for a bunch of crap that I don't like or won't read again, and once they pass the "yep, I won't miss that" test, out they go. It's surprisingly cleansing, really.

(Shadow, two reasons not to give to a charity. 1) I don't want kids getting shitty comics. 2) A lot of, if not all, charities don't want them. They'll have to go through each book and make sure it's something they're comfortable giving to children, and that takes a lot of time that could be used more productively.)

[The Shadow]

Comics these days feature cannabilism and gruesome murders. The mothers of the kids in the hospital would probably complain about comics dumped there.

Very little in your list featured ANY of that... that's a LAME excuse man. :evilangry

And kids in Children's hospitals are 17 and under... so the 4 year olds aren't the only ones there.

[The Shadow]

1) I don't want kids getting shitty comics.
What YOU view as shitty though some new kid your comics got hooked on the hobby may view as the greatest comics ever. YOUR OPINIONS do not mean EVERYONE ELSE agrees with them. It still amazes me but for some reason people like the Clone Saga... and who am I to tell them they are wrong? I voice my thoughts on the matter


2) A lot of, if not all, charities don't want them.
Then give them to a doctors office, dentist or donate them to an auction raising money for charity.

They'll have to go through each book and make sure it's something they're comfortable giving to children, and that takes a lot of time that could be used more productively
"Ma'am, these comics use to be mine. This pile on the left is suitable for all ages while this pile on the right is for 12 and up." Not hard. At all.

And as someone who's worked as a volunteer in a children's ward, the time it takes to look through comics is MORE than worth it when the kids get their hands on the comics and the smiles are out in full force.

[(A)//(E)]

1. Label box "Free comix"
2. Place box on well traveled streetcorner
3. ????
4. PROFIT (or rather, no more clutter)

Free stuff might make someone's day.

[Michael P]

1. Label box "Free comix"
2. Place box on well traveled streetcorner
3. ????
4. PROFIT (or rather, no more clutter)

Free stuff might make someone's day.

This is my plan, for the most part. I don't think I can bring myself to inflict Identity Crisis on another human being, though.

[(A)//(E)]

If I lived by you I'd take it off your hands. I haven't read that yet.:p

[Matt Algren]

What YOU view as shitty though some new kid your comics got hooked on the hobby may view as the greatest comics ever. YOUR OPINIONS do not mean EVERYONE ELSE agrees with them. It still amazes me but for some reason people like the Clone Saga... and who am I to tell them they are wrong? I voice my thoughts on the matterWell, FIRST OF all stop shouting at me. Second, I think you forgot to complete your thought at the end there, but I think I get the gist of it.

As for "Who am I?", I'm the one who bought Superboy and the Ravers or Zero Hour or some other crappy book and knows that there is no redeeming quality in it, especially once it's removed from the goings-on of the DCU whenever it was published. You're right that that's my opinion. I also think I'm right, which is kind of redundant to say when we're talking about opinions, but here we are. If some kid wants to get a bunch of shitty books, that's between them and their god. But I'm not going to be an enabler.

Then give them to a doctors office, dentist or donate them to an auction raising money for charity.

"Ma'am, these comics use to be mine. This pile on the left is suitable for all ages while this pile on the right is for 12 and up." Not hard. At all.

And as someone who's worked as a volunteer in a children's ward, the time it takes to look through comics is MORE than worth it when the kids get their hands on the comics and the smiles are out in full force.I'm only going by what I've been told round here. And I can't blame them, either. Listen, I'd love it if we were talking about age appropriate comics that some generic charity could trust, but it isn't. I'm talking about early 90' through 2003 books. I'm sure that once they get a parent complaining (quite reasonably) that Power Girl's costume is showing too much, or that some odd issue of JLA is promoting the occult, the trouble's not worth potential benefit.

[Jack Zodiac]

Couldn't throw 'em away. I'd give 'em to kids and comic shops, but I wouldn't just throw 'em away. Even if I think they're shit, there's someone out there who'll read that shit. Case in point, Civil War launched with nearly a quarter million copies.

[Chris Nowlin]

I like to give away comics on Halloween

In my comic store, we used to put boxes full of free comics outside. We eventually recycled what we couldn't get rid of.

Lots of Youngblood #1's, and the later valiant stuff like Bloodshot

[yoda510]

Also most of my Waid Flashes and all my Geoff Johns Flashes.

I'm currently debating whether to keep the Geoff Johns JSA comics.

I threw out many JSA comics except the current Metzer run, the Morrison run and the Giffen run.

Man, Johns is pretty popular. And since the Flash wasn't selling well when Johns broke in, and then after he left the Flash he got really popular some of those go for a good price. I know I would have paid you + shipping for them. You must have a ton just to pitch them.

[Lukabratzi V2.0]

I plan to give away/ burn the spider man sins past storyline, it was that horrid

truthfully thats the only one of my comics that i can see myself parting with

[i_mmmchocolate]

1. Label box "Free comix"
2. Place box on well traveled streetcorner

Excellent idea.

[MichaelMogg]

Coming from a country with NO comic source whatsoever, I find I want to weep uncontrollably at the thought of throwing away even the A-Team or *insert name of bad '80s Marvel licensed product here* (such as Madballs, Masters of the Universe, Sledge Hammer, etc.

From a Buddhist stand-point, they are all just possessions. :p So chuck all your Lobo into a garbage bag! . . . and send to the following address . . . ;)

[JeffreyWKramer]

Give em to a Children's Hospital or Kids ward or something... a charity even... don't throw em out!!!

I've tried to do that before, and they wouldn't take 'em. They said they didn't have time to go through them and check for objectionable content.

[howyadoin]

What YOU view as shitty though some new kid your comics got hooked on the hobby may view as the greatest comics ever. YOUR OPINIONS do not mean EVERYONE ELSE agrees with them.Rob Liefeld comics suck ass. This is not open for debate.

[Citizen V]

Here's a list of who went in the dumper:

All Civil War comics.
All "The Initiative" comics.

Those comics,you burn those.But all else you save,or sell.Why throw it away..when you can sell it and make a profit from it?

[Hoss]

Rob Liefeld comics suck ass. This is not open for debate.
The absolute zero of comics.

[MichaelMogg]

Those comics,you burn those.But all else you save,or sell.Why throw it away..when you can sell it and make a profit from it?

Civil War wasn't that bad. I kind of enjoyed it. Then again, I wasn't a fan of Marvel before CW, so I went into it with no preconceived notions of how the characters should be/act.

[Chris Nowlin]

What YOU view as shitty though some new kid your comics got hooked on the hobby may view as the greatest comics ever. YOUR OPINIONS do not mean EVERYONE ELSE agrees with them. It still amazes me but for some reason people like the Clone Saga... and who am I to tell them they are wrong? I voice my thoughts on the matter


I agree with this.

My first comic was Avengers #309. And I fell in love with it and with comics. Later I would look back on Avengers 300-330 as a low point in their history. Until Chuck Austen lowered the mean incredibly making that era above average.

I started reading X-Men with the new #1 in 1991. And have read it since. Today I think of the great X-Men era as ending around there.

What hooks kids is different from what we look at as great.

(Obviously it was a different time; bad comics then meant uninspired and perhaps convoluted; it tended not to mean rape used for dramatic effect)

Oh yeah, and there's a lot about the clone saga I still like.

[sherlockbones]

i think the first superhero comic book i ever read was some batman vs creeper from the 70s in a boutique run by some friends of my mother. and i am pretty sure in the eye of my mother these were as horrible as a 90s liefeld might be to a todays mom. she is a pacifist and was active in the peace movement in the early 80s. but to think your child would take some irreparable damage by look at something new? ridiculous. i couldn´t even comprehend what it was all about, some funny dressed people beating each other up. but there was a certain magic about it...
"we can´t take it, it might contain certain contents" gimme a break. these are luxury problems.
why did you post this anyway?
even more funny is you bought these shitty books, but now they ain´t good enough for somebody else? well, atleast you fell for them back in the day. or are you on a holy crusade to purge culture from trash?
throwing things simply away is the worst option. in my town people put boxes with books on the street when they move to another flat or clean their garages.
hell there are even 2nd hand shop who take everything. let them sort out what they want or not, then you atleast even tried.
all hail throw away culture, let us all drown in shitty 90s books and deliver us from swedish furniture

[Nick Soapdish]

Stick them on E-bay!

I've done the same for over half of my collection.

I'm barely breaking even on a lot of the sales, but I'm ok with that because I figure the next guy is going to enjoy it a bit.

And I've made some money on the rest - only a few hundred bucks, but hey, it's still money.

But it's more time consuming than just sticking them in the recycle bin.

[Lukabratzi V2.0]

I started reading with batman broken city, an old batman collection, and an old stan lee era spider man collection. next thing i knew i was buying comics religiously and now i can't stop, i'm addicted.

[howyadoin]

why did you post this anyway?
even more funny is you bought these shitty books, but now they ain´t good enough for somebody else? well, atleast you fell for them back in the day. or are you on a holy crusade to purge culture from trash?Evidently you're new here.

[Alex L]

And getting rid of clutter is not a bad thing to do. I'm drowning in clutter. Either I get rid of stuff or go buy a bigger house to live in, and bigger houses in my neighborhood cost a million dollars.

I'm throwing away all kinds of things, not just comics. It's just that I've wisely become aware that there is nothing special about comic books. Clutter is clutter.

It's like if I saved all the newspaper funnies for the last forty years. Things would pile up after awhile.

This is why I dig the concept of comics DVD's.

40 years of the X-Men on a tiny disc.

On one hand I wish they had an iTunes for comics, but on the other hand I'd be shafting my LCS by using it.

[Wesley Dodds]

See, I'm not sure why you bought a lot of that crap in the first place.

[Pól Rua]

I'm in the same boat as Onkle Flysie m'self.
I have about twelve small Diamond boxes full of comics I no longer want sitting in my garage. I'd love to get rid of them, but seriously, I don't wanna scan all of them looking for inappropriate content.

[JeffreyWKramer]

I'm in the same boat as Onkle Flysie m'self.
I have about twelve small Diamond boxes full of comics I no longer want sitting in my garage. I'd love to get rid of them, but seriously, I don't wanna scan all of them looking for inappropriate content.

You know what the solution is.

Seriously, wouldn't it feel good to burn those YOUNGBLOODs?

[berk]

...
or are you on a holy crusade to purge culture from trash?
...I think this is a good idea. Pretend that you are on some kind of crusade to save America from the evils of the comix, and maybe you could con some simple minds into burning them for you.

[Reptisaurus!]

I'm curious to see what you'd get for "Big Box of Crappy, Crappy Comics!" on E-bay.

[Pól Rua]

You know what the solution is.
Seriously, wouldn't it feel good to burn those YOUNGBLOODs?

Naw, I didn't stoop that low.
I'm pretty much getting rid of anything I can get in trade paperback. I pretty much dropped the creme de la creme of it on Spike and Cirocco when I visited them a couple of years ago. But I have a horror of just throwing stuff out.

[OzBat!]

Put it all on a slow truck to Canberra, and let unKle OzBat! do all that hard, mean sorting for you.

[JadeDragon]

Hey fly.

Dont sell yer comics.

Look through all of them first....I bet there is some nice memories in there. Its like having a hard copy of days from your youth. Every day you read one of those for the first time might be an encapsulated memory that is fond to you.

I dunno. I guess thats how I think of mine. Even the bad ones.

[howyadoin]

Put it all on a slow truck to Canberra, and let unKle OzBat! do all that hard, mean sorting for you."Truck"?

.

[JadeDragon]

"Truck"?

.

Ha ha! I thought the same thing.

Im sure he was just being silly. ;)

[rick]

You guys should do what I do and just give away all of the books you don't want to the kids who come to the door on Halloween.

I get rid of a big pile of books and the kids just love it.

Just watch out for those Eros books guys. ;)

[howyadoin]

Ha ha! I thought the same thing.

Im sure he was just being silly.Unless...

http://www.bizarrebids.com/wp-admin/images/6567495314.JPG

[JadeDragon]

You guys should do what I do and just give away all of the books you don't want to the kids who come to the door on Halloween.

I get rid of a big pile of books and the kids just love it.

Just watch out for those Eros books guys. ;)

Hey Rick!

How ya been old pal?

I got a few old Huslter comixxx gathering dust. Maybe I can give them to the dads that come by....

[JadeDragon]

Unless...

http://www.bizarrebids.com/wp-admin/images/6567495314.JPG

Come on Howyadoin.....get real.

If fly were to put his huge stacks of comics in that small amphibious vehicle and sent it out into open water, dont you think minor weather turbulence would cause the comics to get wet? Ruining their financial value? I dont care how well they are bagged and boxed...thats no defense against good ol mother nature. Ya think anyone in Australia will want soggy comics really? Sure they say that now, but you just know they will be like 'Stupid fly! We have lots of comics here in this country that arent all water damaged. Thanks but no thanks."

Ya have to think ahead.

A submarine would work much better.

[howyadoin]

You guys should do what I do and just give away all of the books you don't want to the kids who come to the door on Halloween.The neighbourhood kids probably stopped coming to fly's house after he tried to give them all kittens with diarrhea.

[Wesley Dodds]

Put it all on a slow truck to Canberra, and let unKle OzBat! do all that hard, mean sorting for you.

What, even the Byrne Wonder Woman comics?

Ozzy, are you feeling alright?

[OzBat!]

All the funny comedians! I was talking about Pol's comics!

If Mistah Fly puts his on a slow boat, I should just about be finished with that nasty sorting job on Pol's by the time they get here! And I have a paper mache project the Byrne Wonder Woman stuff could go towards...

[borateen]

Put everything in a box (or boxes) and take them to Goodwill. Get a receipt. Write them off next year on your taxes as a donation.

But really, these are all Fly's to do with as he wishes. If he wants to take a giant crap on them, light them on fire and dance around the stinking, flaming bonfire naked while singing Sexy Back, who are we to judge?

[MichaelMogg]

...who are we to judge?

Don't you know who the fuck I aaaaaaaam? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :D

[fly on the wall]

I've tried to do that before, and they wouldn't take 'em. They said they didn't have time to go through them and check for objectionable content.


Translation: I'm right.

[Chris Nowlin]

Translation: I'm right.

If you change you to me, then everybody's posts translate to that.

[fly on the wall]

The absolute zero of comics.

Actually I kept a couple of Rob Liefeld Captain Americas.

They are so bad it's kind of interesting.

They are the only Liefeld comics I have unless Liefeld drew some of the Moore Supremes.

[fly on the wall]

But it's more time consuming than just sticking them in the recycle bin.

Exactly. My whole house is cluttered up with things I couldn't bear to part with, not just the comics. At this point I don't have time to find homes for all the junk, I got to throw it out.

Besides, it's all Maya, right?

Good Riddance to bad Maya.

[LtMarvel]

Let me help you out. You see, sometimes my worlds collide in a good way. From Comics Buyer's Guide #1629 June, 2007 (http://www.cbgxtra.com)(arrived in my mailbox on Monday).

Where to donate for Operation Comix Relief (http://www.operationcomixrelief.freeservers.com):
send to:
Chris Tarbassian
8 Capri Drive
Framingham, MA 01701

or drop off donations to:
Bedrock Comics
371 Worcester Road
Framingham, MA 01701
(508) 872-2317

operationcomixrelief@yahoo.com

Providing our overseas troops comics for 5 years running.

[fly on the wall]

I started reading with batman broken city, an old batman collection, and an old stan lee era spider man collection. next thing i knew i was buying comics religiously and now i can't stop, i'm addicted.

See what happens? Forty years later he's got his mattress perched on top of sixteen long boxes that the cats use for sharpening their nails.

I don't make this stuff up.

[fly on the wall]

Man, Johns is pretty popular. And since the Flash wasn't selling well when Johns broke in, and then after he left the Flash he got really popular some of those go for a good price. I know I would have paid you + shipping for them. You must have a ton just to pitch them.

Despite the popularity of his books, I consider Johns at best a B-list writer. I almost want to keep his books but not quite. So I dump the Johns' Flashes and gather the Johns' JSAs for a final judgement some time in the future.

[fly on the wall]

This is my plan, for the most part. I don't think I can bring myself to inflict Identity Crisis on another human being, though.

As much as I hated it, Identity Crisis was interesting and the covers were great so I kept Identity Crisis.

Hell, I even kept some Johns' Flashes for the Bolland covers. At lot goes into the decision to dump a comic.

[fly on the wall]

Originally Posted by sherlockbones
why did you post this anyway?
even more funny is you bought these shitty books, but now they ain´t good enough for somebody else? well, atleast you fell for them back in the day. or are you on a holy crusade to purge culture from trash?

Why is everyone so hard on me? It's not like I'm throwing away YOUR comics. Think of it, the more I throw away my comics the rarer and more valuable your issues of those comics become. I'm making you richer with your now rarer Geoff Johns' Flashes with their Flash-proof guillotines.

Why did post this? It wasn't easy tossing those comics. It took me months, years to finally do it. It was very hard picking out which ones should go. And it was hard picking out which ones should stay. But the main criteria was that I didn't think I'd ever read them again so why keep 'em.

As to why I bought all those bad books to begin with, I don't know what to tell you except that 95% of all comics are bad so chance are when you buy a comic it's going to stink 19 out of 20 times. But you still need comics anyway, even bad comics, because you need your escape, or you need something to read you to sleep. I don't know why I keep buying bad comics. Maybe because I'm too optimistic when I buy them. I have no idea why I kept buying the Geoff Johns Flashes after that bloody mouth Grodd issue.

Yes, I am on a holy crusade to purge culture of trash. You could say that.

[fly on the wall]

If you change you to me, then everybody's posts translate to that.

Translation: He is another wannabe fly.

[fly on the wall]

The neighbourhood kids probably stopped coming to fly's house after he tried to give them all kittens with diarrhea.


One of my kittens got poisoned by the rat poison cat food, but it lived because it's reaction to eating the bad food was to refuse all food for several days. Luckily when it decided to eat again we offered it non-poisonous cat food. We didn't realize all this until after the fact.

We took it to the vet but the vet couldn't figure out what was wrong with it and why it wouldn't eat, but he charged us a lot anyway.

Kitty is fine now and placed in a good home.

[fly on the wall]

See, I'm not sure why you bought a lot of that crap in the first place.

My taste in comic books is not sublime. I never said it was.

I don't regret buying that crap. It helped me get to sleep in it's day.

I know all these people taking sleeping pills that could get to sleep a lot faster and safer with a few Byrne Wonder Women.

[Matt Algren]

I'm sorry, I can't help it. I just have to fix this. I think the first superhero comic book I ever read was some Batman vs Creeper from the 70s I got in a boutique run by some friends of my mother, and I am pretty sure that in my mother's eye these were as horrible as a 90s Liefeld might be to a today's mom. (She is a pacifist and was active in the peace movement in the early 80s.) But to think your child would take some irreparable damage by looking at something new? Ridiculous. I couldn't even comprehend what my first book was all about, other than some funny dressed people beating each other up. But there was a certain magic about it . . .

"We can't take it, it might contain objectionable material." Gimme a break. These are luxury problems.

Why did you post this anyway?

Even funnier is that you bought these shitty books, but now they aren't good enough for somebody else. Well, at least you fell for them back in the day. Or are you on a holy crusade to purge culture from trash?

Simply throwing things away is the worst option. [or "Throwing things away is simply the worst option." I'm not sure which.] In my town, people put boxes of books on the street when they move to another flat or clean their garages.
Hell, there are even second-hand shops who take everything. Let them sort out what they want or not, then at least you tried.

All hail throw away culture, let us all drown in shitty 90s books and deliver us from swedish furnitureThere. I feel much better, though I'm sure I missed a few.

In response, allow me to point out that (a) I have never bought a Rob Liefeld book. Marc Campos holds his position in my collection, and he's just as bad. And (b) I'm pretty sure there are documented cases of children going blind by reading a Liefeld comic book. Won't someone think of the children?!?

Oh, and (c) the issue is not whether I agree with the charity or parent. The issue is that I have to deal with them as they are.

Actually I kept a couple of Rob Liefeld Captain Americas.

They are so bad it's kind of interesting.

They are the only Liefeld comics I have unless Liefeld drew some of the Moore Supremes.Always keep one Liefeld book in your collection, not only to remind you of what shit looks like, but to ward off evil spirits as well.

[Ed Cunard]

You know what the solution is.

Seriously, wouldn't it feel good to burn those YOUNGBLOODs?

I've burned before. When I got my undergrad degree and left with money in the bank, I went ebay crazy, buying all sorts of collections and such. One of them had a bunch of Verotik comics. Those burned nicely.

I may do a purge and burn before I move into the new house. Fly's right--clutter will eat you.

[Michael P]

I've burned before. When I got my undergrad degree and left with money in the bank, I went ebay crazy, buying all sorts of collections and such. One of them had a bunch of Verotik comics. Those burned nicely.

I may do a purge and burn before I move into the new house. Fly's right--clutter will eat you.

Run your pile by us first, man.

[Ed Cunard]

Run your pile by us first, man.

Yeah, maybe. I think there's some unwritten collection rule wherein people sell boxes on Ebay are required to fill them with mid-'90s Flash and Green Lantern comics, or something. Like, want some old Concrete? For those six issues, I'm throwing in 60 issues of a guy who can run real fast.

[Dreadstar]

Why is everyone so hard on me? It's not like I'm throwing away YOUR comics.
Fly, you *know* you're not defined by what other folk think of your actions.

But just in case there might be some latent entertainment value available from the strident voices, I suggest recycling your comics as toilet paper.

[Matt Algren]

Fly, you *know* you're not defined by what other folk think of your actions.

But just in case there might be some latent entertainment value available from the strident voices, I suggest recycling your comics as toilet paper.
I just filled in my two-holer. Nuts.

[Cei-U!]

Hey fly.

Dont sell yer comics.

Look through all of them first....I bet there is some nice memories in there. Its like having a hard copy of days from your youth.

This is fly, JD. If he were tossing out relics of *his* youth (mine too, for that matter), his dumpster would be overflowing with Lee/Ditko Spideys and Broome/Kane Green Lanterns.

As for the main topic, I'm totally down with the purge. If I didn't have a comics-loving niece to pass 'em on to, I'd have chucked a lot of bad stuff myself. Go, fly!

Cei-U!
I summon the solidarity!

[Slam_Bradley]

This is fly, JD. If he were tossing out relics of *his* youth (mine too, for that matter), his dumpster would be overflowing with Lee/Ditko Spideys and Broome/Kane Green Lanterns.

As for the main topic, I'm totally down with the purge. If I didn't have a comics-loving niece to pass 'em on to, I'd have chucked a lot of bad stuff myself. Go, fly!

Cei-U!
I summon the solidarity!


Your niece, my boys. I'd love to get rid of a ton of comics. But I just slowly distribute them to my children.

Which really doesn't help with the clutter.

[howyadoin]

Let me help you out. You see, sometimes my worlds collide in a good way. From Comics Buyer's Guide (http://www.cbgxtra.com)#1629 June, 2007 (http://www.cbgxtra.com)(arrived in my mailbox on Monday).

Where to donate for Operation Comix Relief (http://www.operationcomixrelief.freeservers.com):
send to:
Chris Tarbassian
8 Capri Drive
Framingham, MA 01701

or drop off donations to:
Bedrock Comics
371 Worcester Road
Framingham, MA 01701
(508) 872-2317

operationcomixrelief@yahoo.com

Providing our overseas troops comics for 5 years running.Shit, I wish they'd been around before Project Golden Age robbed me blind.

[Slam_Bradley]

Shit, I wish they'd been around before Project Golden Age robbed me blind.


But you're not bitter.

[howyadoin]

But you're not bitter.Nope. Not at all. I'm sure that Sammy will eventually save up the hundred bucks and then come back to CBR.

[Sir Tim Drake]

Always nice to see you, fly.

And it's your own property, so obviously you can do whatever you want with it. For example, if you want to send your Geoff Johns Flashes to me, then no one could possibly have any objection to that. ;)

[Shellhead]

I already got of my bad comics. Every time I move, I cut my collection down to the really good stuff, and then sell or give away the rest. This last move, I only had one short box of bad comics, spanning the last decade, because I have become very picky about what I will even buy in the first place.

However, that currently leaves me with 18 short boxes taking up too much space in my new apartment. My girlfriend isn't complaining (yet) but I can see with my own eyes that it's too much space.

Impressed with the utility and space-saving feature of my 40-year Avengers DVD, I am planning to buy a decent scanner. Then I will gradually scan my entire collection, converting it to user-friendly adobe acrobat files for each issue. Then I will sell everything except the trade paperbacks (2 boxes) on Ebay, taking whatever I can get for them.

Even if the Ebay sales doesn't cover the whole cost of the scanner, I will still be able to use the scanner for other projects, like boardgame design, so the only huge loss will be the amount of time that I spend scanning. Come to think of it, maybe I can get friends to do the scans for me, letting them keep the actual comics after each issue is scanned and converted.

[fly on the wall]

Always nice to see you, fly.

And it's your own property, so obviously you can do whatever you want with it. For example, if you want to send your Geoff Johns Flashes to me, then no one could possibly have any objection to that. ;)

Ulp! Too late for the Geoff Johns Flashes or the Geoff Johns JLAs for all that matters.

Only the Geoff Johns JSAs remain and they may be living on borrowed time like Hourman's dad in that pocket dimension.

[Alex A Sanchez]

This thread breaks my heart. :(


Why is everyone so hard on me? It's not like I'm throwing away YOUR comics.
comics are so damn expensive these day, and kids never get the chance to read them. GIVE them away. Its just painful to hear about them being trashed.


Think of it, the more I throw away my comics the rarer and more valuable your issues of those comics become.

Except that I don't own a lot of the issues you did- and I would like to read many of them. Example: I didn't buy into the whole Civil War deal, but I'd like to read what all the noise was about (particularly since all of the other Marvel titles I collect were affected, it'd be nice to have a copy of the story for completists purposes).

Like, want some old Concrete? For those six issues, I'm throwing in 60 issues of a guy who can run real fast.
Wait, are you going to get rid of Concrete issues?!?!?! I'll take them!!!! PM me and I'll send you my address.


To other people who are thinking about tossing their books:
put them up on Craig's List (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/) or take them to your Local Comic Shop with a "Free" sign. The shop guy might even be able to sell some of them.

[Kid Omega]

This thread breaks my heart. :(


comics are so damn expensive these day, and kids never get the chance to read them.



The funny part is, NARUTO is the best seeling comic going, and it costs 8 bucks. And it's almost exclusively kids reading it.

You can read THE SPIRIT for less than a specialty coffee from STARBUCKS. Not so expensive.




Except that I don't own a lot of the issues you did- and I would like to read many of them. Example: I didn't buy into the whole Civil War deal, but I'd like to read what all the noise was about (particularly since all of the other Marvel titles I collect were affected, it'd be nice to have a copy of the story for completists purposes).


The collected paperback comes out in a few weeks.

[JeffreyWKramer]

The collected paperback comes out in a few weeks.

They should print that one as toilet paper rolls.

[Kid Omega]

They should print that one as toilet paper rolls.

You see TP, I see green dollar bills.

Your Mileage May Vary.

[JeffreyWKramer]

You see TP, I see green dollar bills.

Your Mileage May Vary.

As a business owner, you're rightly looking at it from the business perspective. Can't say I blame you.

I'm looking at from a perspective different from that, obviously.

[Kid Omega]

As a business owner, you're rightly looking at it from the business perspective. Can't say I blame you.

I'm looking at from a perspective different from that, obviously.

Neither of us are wrong in this situation.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Neither of us are wrong in this situation.

Definitely agreed.

[Adam C]

They should print that one as toilet paper rolls.

You see TP, I see green dollar bills.

Your Mileage May Vary.

Um...I would buy Civil War if it was printed on TP. Frontline too!

[Sam T.]

I need to sort though my collection...I got some comics that i'm not really reading!!:D

[Chris Nowlin]

They should print that one as toilet paper rolls.

I'm with Jeffrey on this one.

Still wouldn't buy it, but if somebody were to give it to me, I may actually get use out of it, more than I did out of the large chunk of the series that I bought.

[Web_Spinner]

you don't happen to have amazing spidey 430, 431, and 434, sitting in the garbage bin, by any chance, do ya???? lol!

Those are the last 3 I need to finish my set!

I'm gonna have to shell out over $30 on ebay for them, so as a poor university student, I'd love to take them off your hands!!!!!!!!

[Jack Zodiac]

As much as I hated it, Identity Crisis was interesting and the covers were great so I kept Identity Crisis.

You're fuckin' dead to me.

[Jack Zodiac]

They should print that one as toilet paper rolls.

At least then it wouldn't be three bucks an issue. And it'd give me something to read in the can. They should do a roll of Frontline, too.

"You don't understand America because you don't watch Nascar or have a MySpace account!"

*wipe!*

[Ed Cunard]

Wait, are you going to get rid of Concrete issues?!?!?! I'll take them!!!! PM me and I'll send you my address.

No, I was speaking as the hypothetical Ebay seller of my nightmares--I just wanted the Concrete and things like it--I didn't need every Zero Hour crossover and the... crap, what was that DC event... Bloodlines? That sort of thing.

And the Verotik comics. Dear god, I did not need the Verotik comics. No one does. Even the people that like them don't need them. Fuck.

[Jeff Brady]

Coming from a country with NO comic source whatsoever, I find I want to weep uncontrollably at the thought of throwing away even the A-Team or *insert name of bad '80s Marvel licensed product here*...

Hah. I have that somewhere.

See what happens? Forty years later he's got his mattress perched on top of sixteen long boxes that the cats use for sharpening their nails.

I don't make this stuff up.

Hey hey HEY! I put my bed up on lifts BEFORE I put the dozen boxes beneath it. The boxes wouldn't support my fat ass, and I'd ruin lots of comics.

...

Oh crap, I'm such a loser!

*begins purge*

[Wesley Dodds]

Only the Geoff Johns JSAs remain and they may be living on borrowed time like Hourman's dad in that pocket dimension.

Don't worry -- Hourman's dad is OK. The robot Hourman swapped places with him, saving his life.

Oh, dear, I've just doomed those Johns JSA issues, haven't I?

[mgs]

This thread is one of the worst things I've ever seen on a COMIC BOOK forum. Fly's a good guy, but he can at least take the following suggestion which is not all that hard to do:

1. Label box "Free comix"
2. Place box on well traveled streetcorner

Free stuff might make someone's day.

[Kid Omega]

This thread is one of the worst things I've ever seen on a COMIC BOOK forum.

Oh, I've seen far, far worse.

[Wesley Dodds]

Oh, I've seen far, far worse.

Yeah! And Joe hasn't even posted in this thread!!!

[Matt Algren]

This thread is one of the worst things I've ever seen on a COMIC BOOK forum. Fly's a good guy, but he can at least take the following suggestion which is not all that hard to do:Or he could throw trash in the trash and rest assured that one less copy of hellspawn exists.

Everybody wins.

[thespianphryne]

Man, chill out! it's not like he's leading the sacking of the library at Alexandria.

His comics: his decision.


-Das

[Hoss]

Man, chill out! it's not like he's leading the sacking of the library at Alexandria.

His comics: his decision.


-Das

If there were copies of the Clone Saga at the Library of Alexandria then the Muslim raiders had a point.

[sherlockbones]

Man, chill out! it's not like he's leading the sacking of the library at Alexandria.

His comics: his decision.


-Das



it ain´t that easy, you know. with property comes responsibility.
if you feel like driving your porsche into your swimming pool just cause you are bored you might be free to do so, but others may think what a stupid idea this was.
and if you post it on a public board, you are just asking for it. btw fly already said he had a hard time with the decision.
so let´s hammer on his bad conscience just for fun, he deserves it :D

[Matt Algren]

it ain't that easy, you know.Yes it is.

[Sir Tim Drake]

Man, chill out! it's not like he's leading the sacking of the library at Alexandria.

Given fly's age, I'm not so sure he wasn't involved in that...

[fly on the wall]

Hah. I have that somewhere.



Hey hey HEY! I put my bed up on lifts BEFORE I put the dozen boxes beneath it. The boxes wouldn't support my fat ass, and I'd ruin lots of comics.

...

Oh crap, I'm such a loser!

*begins purge*

No, no it works really well putting your bed on longboxes.

At least it did until the cats decided cardboard was their favorite sharpening pad.

Having all these cats has changed my life in many ways.

[fly on the wall]

Given fly's age, I'm not so sure he wasn't involved in that...

Keep it up Nerdlington and your life expectancy will barely exceed that of the Geoff Johns' JSAs.

(Which still exist as of this typing)

[fly on the wall]

it ain´t that easy, you know. with property comes responsibility.
if you feel like driving your porsche into your swimming pool just cause you are bored you might be free to do so, but others may think what a stupid idea this was.
and if you post it on a public board, you are just asking for it. btw fly already said he had a hard time with the decision.
so let´s hammer on his bad conscience just for fun, he deserves it :D

NO! NO! What was I thinking of? My poor funny books if only I could have all those Byrne Wonder Women back.

sob!

[jessecuster3]

Fly you have my support(For What Its Worth).


I mean all you people yelling at him, what do you do with your old magazines and newspapers?

[Ed Cunard]

Fly you have my support(For What Its Worth).


I mean all you people yelling at him, what do you do with your old magazines and newspapers?

"But... but... those are different!"

I'm actually more likely to keep some magazines, if there's something there worth revisiting, than I am with monthly comics--if there's a comic that I want to revisit, I tend to get it in a trade for bookshelf access.

[jessecuster3]

"But... but... those are different!"

I'm actually more likely to keep some magazines, if there's something there worth revisiting, than I am with monthly comics--if there's a comic that I want to revisit, I tend to get it in a trade for bookshelf access.

I used to do that too, and you know how many times I went back through my old issues to find something, how about zero times. So I finally pitched the whole bunch.


3 straight years of Maxim, Details, Premiere, and NextGen.

[Matt Algren]

Heh. I have an Aunt that has several years worth of old newspapers stacked around her house because she got behind in reading one of the comics. You can't talk to her about what's happening in the comic now because she thinks she's going to go back through them and read them in order one day.

This? Same thing.

[Ed Cunard]

I used to do that too, and you know how many times I went back through my old issues to find something, how about zero times. So I finally pitched the whole bunch.


I actually do find that I go through them way more than comics--particularly if there's a particularly interesting feature or non-fiction bit--when I hit dryspells, I turn to those types of things to jumpstart my writing.

[fly on the wall]

This thread is one of the worst things I've ever seen on a COMIC BOOK forum.

I don't know how I always do it, but I always stir up strong emotions even when I'm not even trying. Perhaps that's why they call me the fly on the wall.

Actually that last sentence made no sense.

Throw out your Geoff Johns Flashes while you still have time.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Back last time I did a big purge - this is when I found children's hospitals and such can't be bothered with donations of comics, because they don't want to take the time to go through them and screen for bad stuff - I didn't actually toss much, but I did dump several longboxes full of crap at Half-Price Books. I didn't get much for them, but I'm honestly glad to be rid of that stuff. There's not a single book in that bunch I have ever missed. Post-Byrne Superman books? Better forgotten. About 15 years worth of IRON MAN? That just brought me around to realizing how crappy a book IRON MAN has been through most of its publication history. Bunch of shitty old crossover event books... why the fuck did I buy WAR OF THE GODS in the first place?

I did throw out those Devin Grayson TITANS issues. I didn't want to foist those crapfests on anyone.

Since then, I've been pretty merciless in purging stuff. I've got a pile of stuff that I'm going to sell off cheap next time we do a yard sale, and whatever doesn't go at that, I'll probably just pitch. NEW AVENGERS, issues of AQUAMAN and HAWKMAN (and HAWKGIRL), Joe Kelly JLAs, that awful run that started up the current volume of CAPTAIN AMERICA... good riddance.

[Hoss]

Plus - the more people throw away comics, the more likely yours are to go up in value. It could be that this whole thread is just a ploy by Fly to inflate the market for Geoff John's Flash.

[Loren]

that awful run that started up the current volume of CAPTAIN AMERICA... good riddance.

The current volume? I'd heard that the last Cap series, by John Ney Rieber, started off with a bad story, but Brubaker's first arc was terrible too?

[Hoss]

The current volume? I'd heard that the last Cap series, by John Ney Rieber, started off with a bad story, but Brubaker's first arc was terrible too?

It was awesome. Friggin awesome. Cap was the awesomest he'd ever been and so they killed him.

Why is there no emoticon of crying many sad faced tears?

[JeffreyWKramer]

The current volume? I'd heard that the last Cap series, by John Ney Rieber, started off with a bad story, but Brubaker's first arc was terrible too?

Maybe I'm confused. Did Brubaker's CAP start at another #1?

I'm talking about Reiber, and the crap that came after that. That all made me drop CAP for awhile, and I didn't come back on until whenever Brubaker started.

[Chris Nowlin]

Maybe I'm confused. Did Brubaker's CAP start at another #1?

I'm talking about Reiber, and the crap that came after that. That all made me drop CAP for awhile, and I didn't come back on until whenever Brubaker started.

Why would you be confused? This is Cap volume 5!!!!!

It turned out people didn't necessarily want to buy comics with several hundred issues behind them. They'd rather by #1's. So new #1s everywhere.

But then Cap vol. 3 went on 50 issues. Who wants to buy issue 51 of a comic? An issue 1 would sell better. Plus we can make it relevant to 9/11 and have Cap unmask! By this point, a very original idea. So vol. 4 with Neiber.

But the series lost steam after almost 30 issues. After all, who wants to buy issue 32 of a comic when they can buy issue #1! So Cap vol. 5...

[Hoss]

[QUOTE=JeffreyWKramer;4597148] Maybe I'm confused. Did Brubaker's CAP start at another #1?

Yep

I'm talking about Reiber, and the crap that came after that. That all made me drop CAP for awhile, and I didn't come back on until whenever Brubaker started.

The Reiber volume (also written by Austen, Gibbins, Kirkman and others) featured some really crappy stories but some awesome art. Cassady, Jae Lee, Bachalo, Hairsine and Lee Weeks.

And the Gibbons/Weeks alternative earth story arc was alot of fun.

[Chris Nowlin]

I did throw out those Devin Grayson TITANS issues. I didn't want to foist those crapfests on anyone.


I don't know if this will make you stop speaking to me, but I'd never read much DC, but several people strongly recommended those issues to me, and I read and enjoyed them. Read 1-25.

I then went back and started buying the Wolfman/Perez stuff, which was better.

But I'd never have found Wolfman Titans without the Grayson Titans...

[Hoss]

Why would you be confused? This is Cap volume 5!!!!!

It turned out people didn't necessarily want to buy comics with several hundred issues behind them. They'd rather by #1's. So new #1s everywhere.

But then Cap vol. 3 went on 50 issues. Who wants to buy issue 51 of a comic? An issue 1 would sell better. Plus we can make it relevant to 9/11 and have Cap unmask! By this point, a very original idea. So vol. 4 with Neiber.

But the series lost steam after almost 30 issues. After all, who wants to buy issue 32 of a comic when they can buy issue #1! So Cap vol. 5...

Did Marvel retcon Cap unmasking by the way? That never seemed to come up in Civil War? Or did it. It almost seemed to me like Cap was all of the sudden undercover again.

[Chris Nowlin]

[QUOTE=JeffreyWKramer;4597148] Maybe I'm confused. Did Brubaker's CAP start at another #1?

Yep

I'm talking about Reiber, and the crap that came after that. That all made me drop CAP for awhile, and I didn't come back on until whenever Brubaker started.

The Reiber volume (also written by Austen, Gibbins, Kirkman and others) featured some really crappy stories but some awesome art. Cassady, Jae Lee, Bachalo, Hairsine and Lee Weeks.

I liked the Gibbons issues fine, even though I'd seen that story plenty of times before.

The "Ice" story fascinates me. Chuck Austen and Jae Lee. Wow. Beautifully told terrible story. Which, as far as I rememeber (it's mostly blocked out of my mind), seemed largely copied from the Liefeld Cap story.

[Chris Nowlin]

Did Marvel retcon Cap unmasking by the way? That never seemed to come up in Civil War? Or did it. It almost seemed to me like Cap was all of the sudden undercover again.

I don't think it's been retconned. Iron Man referred to him as Rogers often enough. And SHIELD knows who he is.

He was just in hiding. I think everybody knows his identity

Just like Iron Man, Daredevil, Spider-Man...

I love originality.

[Hoss]

I don't know if this will make you stop speaking to me, but I'd never read much DC, but several people strongly recommended those issues to me, and I read and enjoyed them. Read 1-25.

I then went back and started buying the Wolfman/Perez stuff, which was better.

But I'd never have found Wolfman Titans without the Grayson Titans...

Those kind of things happen especially when you are first meeting a character. If you really dig the characters and the concept then you might not even notice the crappy writer. Now, if you'd said you discovered the characters through Perez and Wolfman and then liked the Grayson stuff better you'd have to quit posting here.

[Matt Algren]

This message is hidden because coke & comics is on your ignore list.YOU made me do this!

[Chris Nowlin]

Those kind of things happen especially when you are first meeting a character. If you really dig the characters and the concept then you might not even notice the crappy writer. Now, if you'd said you discovered the characters through Perez and Wolfman and then liked the Grayson stuff better you'd have to quit posting here.

Agreed.

I just notice this happens a lot though. Especially for us who began in the '90s.

It's not that one man's crap is another's treasure so much as what seems like crap with the perspective of knowing the characters and what's come before makes a fine introduction to a new reader.

Much as I'm tempted to burn my copies of Civil War (hmm, beach bonfire. tempting), apparently people newer to Marvel comics seem to be into it.

[Chris Nowlin]

YOU made me do this!

Was it for liking Grayson? Then I probably deserve it.

The plus side is you're not reading this post and I can now say whatever I want about you with impunity

[fly on the wall]

Back last time I did a big purge - this is when I found children's hospitals and such can't be bothered with donations of comics, because they don't want to take the time to go through them and screen for bad stuff - I didn't actually toss much, but I did dump several longboxes full of crap at Half-Price Books. I didn't get much for them, but I'm honestly glad to be rid of that stuff. There's not a single book in that bunch I have ever missed. Post-Byrne Superman books?.

I threw out the vast majority of my post-Byrne Superman books.


About 15 years worth of IRON MAN? That just brought me around to realizing how crappy a book IRON MAN has been through most of its publication history..

I threw out all my Iron Men, too. And you are right Iron Man has been crappy through most of it's publication history. I liked the Goodwin/Tuska run though..[/QUOTE]




Bunch of shitty old crossover event books... why the fuck did I buy WAR OF THE GODS in the first place? .

Because some of it was pencilled by George Perez, which is why I have kept my War of the Gods so far. I'll probably reread it and then keep only the Perez drawn books.


I did throw out those Devin Grayson TITANS issues. I didn't want to foist those crapfests on anyone..

Har! And she was the hot writer at one time.


Since then, I've been pretty merciless in purging stuff. I've got a pile of stuff that I'm going to sell off cheap next time we do a yard sale, and whatever doesn't go at that, I'll probably just pitch. NEW AVENGERS, issues of AQUAMAN and HAWKMAN (and HAWKGIRL), Joe Kelly JLAs, that awful run that started up the current volume of CAPTAIN AMERICA... good riddance.

I dumped the Joe Kelly JLAs. I haven't dumped the New Avengers yet except the Civil War crossovers. I dumped all the water hand Aquaman but am still gingerly hanging on to the Peter David Aquamen. I can't get myself to dump any of the Peter David Hulks, Aquamen, Captain Marvels or Supergirls.

I ought to at least be able to dump the Supergirls, at least the issues after the good artist left. Personally I couldn't follow all the permutations of Supergirl they had in that series.

I dumped some Hawkmen as a warm up to eventually dumping my Geoff Johns' JSAs.

It's funny how we see crap comics in almost the same way.

[Hoss]

Agreed.

I just notice this happens a lot though. Especially for us who began in the '90s.

It's not that one man's crap is another's treasure so much as what seems like crap with the perspective of knowing the characters and what's come before makes a fine introduction to a new reader.


Yep. Now imagine your first issue of Fantastic Four was by Byrne, your first issue of Thor was by Simonson, your first Daredevils were backissues of Miller,your first X-Men was by Claremont and Romita Jr, your first Batmans were by Miller and Mazzuchelli, your first Superman was by Byrne, your first Hawkman was by Timothy Truman and your first Green Arrow was by Mike Grell.

That's why it took Kurt Busiek and Alex Ross on Marvels to rekindle the love for so many of us. The 90s weren't just crap - they were craps on the heels of some absolutely magnificent stuff.

[Hoss]

I can't get myself to dump any of the Peter David Hulks, Aquamen, Captain Marvels or Supergirls.


Well, I don't know about the Aquamen or Supergirls, but David's hulk were fantastic and Captain Marvel was fun.

[Chris Nowlin]

Yep. Now imagine your first issue of Fantastic Four was by Byrne, your first issue of Thor was by Simonson, your first Daredevils were backissues of Miller,your first X-Men was by Claremont and Romita Jr, your first Batmans were by Miller and Mazzuchelli, your first Superman was by Byrne, your first Hawkman was by Timothy Truman and your first Green Arrow was by Mike Grell.

Hey, you're talking about my favourite era of Marvel! I love 1981-1982. But alas, I was only a baby in those days. The '90s were when I read Marvel. I later filled in the back issues. *sigh*

[Hoss]

I dumped some Hawkmen as a warm up to eventually dumping my Geoff Johns' JSAs.


Most messed around with character of the past 20 years - Donna Troy or Hawkman? You decide.

[jessecuster3]

your first Daredevils were backissues of Miller,your first X-Men was by Claremont and Romita Jr, your first Batmans were by Miller and Mazzuchelli, your first Superman was by Byrne, and your first Green Arrow was by Mike Grell.

That's why it took Kurt Busiek and Alex Ross on Marvels to rekindle the love for so many of us. The 90s weren't just crap - they were craps on the heels of some absolutely magnificent stuff.


But those ones were my first.

[Hoss]

Hey, you're talking about my favourite era of Marvel! I love 1981-1982. But alas, I was only a baby in those days. The '90s were when I read Marvel. I later filled in the back issues. *sigh*

I was so excited in the early 2000s. Marvel and DC had folks like Brubaker, Bendis, Millar, Rucka, John's, Busiek, JMS, Waid, Morrison etc doing some great stuff. Now those guys are becoming crossover tricksters relying more on shock and stunts than on charactertization and neat storylines.

[Chris Nowlin]

I was so excited in the early 2000s. Marvel and DC had folks like Brubaker, Bendis, Millar, Rucka, John's, Busiek, JMS, Waid, Morrison etc doing some great stuff. Now those guys are becoming crossover tricksters relying more on shock and stunts than on charactertization and neat storylines.

I'm right there with you.

I have to keep reminding myself that I love Bendis as a writer. Finally just gave up on his Avengers.

It's a sad era, at the moment. Much like those '90s...

[Hoss]

But those ones were my first.

Which were your firsts? The 90s or 80s.

I pity anyone who got introduced to comics through Marvels. Sort of set the standard a bit high.

[jessecuster3]

Which were your firsts? The 90s or 80s.

I pity anyone who got introduced to comics through Marvels. Sort of set the standard a bit high.

Miller's Daredevil and Batman, Grell's Green Arrow, Byrne's Superman and Claremont's X-men.

[Hoss]

Miller's Daredevil and Batman, Grell's Green Arrow, Byrne's Superman and Claremont's X-men.

And in my mind, those are the "correct" versions of the character.

Grell wrote Ollie in the Longbow Hunters as being on the other side of the middle life crisis which he had to have again through out the 90s (I know Grell was later a part of that). And I treat Daredevil as if he jumped from the end of the Born Again era straight to the Kevin Smith issues. And nobody did anything really new or worthwhile with the X-Men until Morrison and yes, I know people will hate me, Austen. I should have just written Morrison because I don't want to ruin the thread but I have to keep it real - I really thought Austen's X-Men was fresh and new.

[Chris Nowlin]

And in my mind, those are the "correct" versions of the character.

Grell wrote Ollie in the Longbow Hunters as being on the other side of the middle life crisis which he had to have again through out the 90s (I know Grell was later a part of that). And I treat Daredevil as if he jumped from the end of the Born Again era straight to the Kevin Smith issues. And nobody did anything really new or worthwhile with the X-Men until Morrison and yes, I know people will hate me, Austen. I should have just written Morrison because I don't want to ruin the thread but I have to keep it real - I really thought Austen's X-Men was fresh and new.

I'll forgive you for the Austen X-Men (exploding communion wafers?!) if you forgive Grayson's Titans.

I liked Whedon's X-Men.

I actually like some Nocenti Daredevils also. I then jump to Kevin Smith. But I've only read scattered issues in the 300's, but think I am better off for it.

I don't read much DC, but I've read the first 40 or so issues of Grell's run on Green Arrow and rather enjoyed them.

Dematteis' Defenders
Claremont's X-Men
Miller's Daredevil
Shooter's Avengers
Stern's Spider-Man
Byrne's FF
Simonson's Thor

Good times.

[Corrina]

Re: throwing out stuff.

Try www.freecycle.org

That will hook you up with a group in your area.

You'll never have to throw away unwanted stuff in semi-usable condition again. Trust me. People take *anything,* usually within hours of posting. I gave away two boxes of books I didn't want. They were gone in 24 hours.

Hell, styrofoam coolers get snagged.

And people give away really cool stuff sometimes, too. I got a couch in excellent condition from people who decided they didn't like it after a year of using it and bought a new one. They just didn't want to bother with the hassle of selling/haggling or hauling it away. It's a really nice couch.

[JeffreyWKramer]

[QUOTE=JeffreyWKramer;4597148] Maybe I'm confused. Did Brubaker's CAP start at another #1?

Yep

I'm talking about Reiber, and the crap that came after that. That all made me drop CAP for awhile, and I didn't come back on until whenever Brubaker started.

The Reiber volume (also written by Austen, Gibbins, Kirkman and others) featured some really crappy stories but some awesome art. Cassady, Jae Lee, Bachalo, Hairsine and Lee Weeks.

And the Gibbons/Weeks alternative earth story arc was alot of fun.

Okay, so it was the previous volume, not the current one.

The art was indeed often wonderful... Cassady, Jae Lee, etc. But the stories were horrible up the point I just plain gave up on it. I've blocked some of it out of my mind, but I remember one of the ideas in that Jae Lee one was that Cap was intentionally frozen in the ice by the government, and that irked me so much I tore that issue in half, then called the store and had them drop that book off my pull list.

[Chris Nowlin]

...one of the ideas in that Jae Lee one was that Cap was intentionally frozen in the ice by the government, and that irked me so much I tore that issue in half, then called the store and had them drop that book off my pull list.

HAHAHA

That's what I meant by "stolen from Liefeld"

[JeffreyWKramer]

I don't know if this will make you stop speaking to me, but I'd never read much DC, but several people strongly recommended those issues to me, and I read and enjoyed them. Read 1-25.

I then went back and started buying the Wolfman/Perez stuff, which was better.

But I'd never have found Wolfman Titans without the Grayson Titans...

It's hard for me to imagine anyone recommending those. I read probably about ten issues in, then a few when someone else took over... Faerber? Nicienca? I don't remember who it was, but it's whomever wrote that shit about Jesse Quick fucking her mom's boytoy. Ugh.

Anyhow, those Grayson issues... she's got obvious affection for those characters, so much so that she can't really write stories about them, so much as write fan mail about how cool they are, and disguise it as stories.

I'm glad you got around to Wolfman/Perez at least.

[Chris Nowlin]

It's hard for me to imagine anyone recommending those. I read probably about ten issues in, then a few when someone else took over... Faerber? Nicienca? I don't remember who it was, but it's whomever wrote that shit about Jesse Quick fucking her mom's boytoy. Ugh.

Anyhow, those Grayson issues... she's got obvious affection for those characters, so much so that she can't really write stories about them, so much as write fan mail about how cool they are, and disguise it as stories.

I'm glad you got around to Wolfman/Perez at least.

Faerber was next. I didn't read much of those. I really wasn't looking to add DC comics to my reading.

This was DC fans trying to convince me to check out DC. They just gave me the issue where they all went camping.

[Matt Algren]

Faerber was next. I didn't read much of those. I really wasn't looking to add DC comics to my reading.

This was DC fans trying to convince me to check out DC. They just gave me the issue where they all went camping.
The Faerber stuff is worse. I seem to remember reading an interview with him (after he left the book) where he said that a lot of the elements in the book were dictated by the editol. Specifically, the inclusion of that blue chick Argent (who Berganza apparently had a thing for, because she was around forever and contributed nothing) and the horrible ongoing story of those not-Titans kids that had powers. It went on, and on, and on. And on.

Thankfully I'd dropped the book by then and just gave it the flip thru every month to confirm my decision.

[Chris Nowlin]

The Faerber stuff is worse. I seem to remember reading an interview with him (after he left the book) where he said that a lot of the elements in the book were dictated by the editol. Specifically, the inclusion of that blue chick Argent (who Berganza apparently had a thing for, because she was around forever and contributed nothing) and the horrible ongoing story of those not-Titans kids that had powers. It went on, and on, and on. And on.

Thankfully I'd dropped the book by then and just gave it the flip thru every month to confirm my decision.

Now that you've reminded me, I must have started the Faerber stuff, because I remember the kids. I think I didn't like it and dropped it pretty quicky, then pushed it from my memory.

EDIT: Ignore works best if you don't obsessive-compulsively click on the posts anyway. Which I do. And thus gave up on the ignore features.

[howyadoin]

if you feel like driving your porsche into your swimming pool just cause you are bored you might be free to do so, but others may think what a stupid idea this was.Sure, but Porsches are great cars - practically the standard of the industry.

Geoff Johns? Not so much.

[JadeDragon]

Yep. Now imagine your first issue of Fantastic Four was by Byrne, your first issue of Thor was by Simonson, your first Daredevils were backissues of Miller,your first X-Men was by Claremont and Romita Jr, your first Batmans were by Miller and Mazzuchelli, your first Superman was by Byrne, your first Hawkman was by Timothy Truman and your first Green Arrow was by Mike Grell.

That's why it took Kurt Busiek and Alex Ross on Marvels to rekindle the love for so many of us. The 90s weren't just crap - they were craps on the heels of some absolutely magnificent stuff.

Hoss old bean, you are a man of true taste. Well said.

Also, dont forget The Great Darkness Saga by Keith Giffen on Legion of Superheroes. And Dale Keown on Hulk.

I love comics.

[Dreadstar]

Sure, but Porsches are great cars - practically the standard of the industry.

Geoff Johns? Not so much.

So then, it'd be more like driving your Yugo in the swimming pool?

What about the pool itself? Are we talking custom in-ground or one of those stand-up prefabs?

[JeffreyWKramer]

What about the pool itself? Are we talking custom in-ground or one of those stand-up prefabs?

With Johns? I think we're talking one of those big plastic ones you buy at Wal-Mart.

[Matt Algren]

Now that you've reminded me, I must have started the Faerber stuff, because I remember the kids. I think I didn't like it and dropped it pretty quicky, then pushed it from my memory.

EDIT: Ignore works best if you don't obsessive-compulsively click on the posts anyway. Which I do. And thus gave up on the ignore features.
I'm nothing if not obsessive-compulsive, though we prefer the term 'Monkish'.

[Jeff Brady]

So then, it'd be more like driving your Yugo in the swimming pool?

What about the pool itself? Are we talking custom in-ground or one of those stand-up prefabs?

One of those li'l kiddie pools.