View Full Version : She-Hulk Needs a Better Artist
Dusty.
03-24-2007, 07:03 PM
I am glad that Dan Slott getting a higher caliber of artist for his Initiative series, but I wish that was also the case with She-Hulk. I'm not happy at all with Rick Burchett. It just isn't working.
Mystique25
03-24-2007, 07:21 PM
I agree, the art is really not working for the series, especially not with the current story arc.
Joey Friday
03-24-2007, 07:27 PM
And here's a third person who agrees. His art isn't bad it's just not suited for the comic.
Expletive Deleted
03-24-2007, 07:38 PM
I'm rather fond of Burchett's style on this book.
Will.S
03-24-2007, 09:42 PM
Burchett is like Bobillo's in that his style is very quirky.
I happen to like his art as well but I wished that Chris Chuckry who colored the first few issues stuck with the book. If not Burchett I think Andrea Divito should be put on the book, he'd be a much better fit since he can do comedy (Dan's Thing), sexy babes like She-Hulk and some awesome action.
Plus Andrea isn't really doing any book aside from Planet Hulk: X-Men is he?
Mariah
03-24-2007, 11:20 PM
Omg, I've been championing this cause ever since he came on this book! This entire arc has not been as entertaining as it could be, if I liked the art a lot more. His style just doesn't fit, imo.
Hatut Zeraze
03-24-2007, 11:28 PM
Count me in on this one.
Bobillo worked for me, but Burchett does not.
Hmmm... I'm not a big fan of the book, but for some reason it doesn't really bother me that much on this book. I don't know... maybe because it's humor based, I don't mind it coming off more cartoony and colorful.
Mariah
03-24-2007, 11:39 PM
Count me in on this one.
Bobillo worked for me, but Burchett does not.
See, Bobillo didn't do it for me, either. Jen came off bloated as She-Hulk.
Hmmm... I'm not a big fan of the book, but for some reason it doesn't really bother me that much on this book. I don't know... maybe because it's humor based, I don't mind it coming off more cartoony and colorful.
Boo...I mean, I respect your opinion.:p
Dusty.
03-24-2007, 11:42 PM
Andrea DiVito OR Kieron Dwyer would be better choices.
Mariah
03-24-2007, 11:49 PM
Dodson's for the win.
Amanda Connor would work as well.
Skroce would be so fetch.
Nevets F
03-24-2007, 11:51 PM
I am not the biggest fan of the current guy, but I hated the artwork when Bobillo was on She-Hulk. OMG, it was horrible to me.
Dodsons would be AMAZING.
a-spidey
03-25-2007, 04:02 AM
Dodsons would be AMAZING.
would like to see that too:)
like his art a lot not only of women :D
Deep_Sleeper
03-25-2007, 05:36 AM
I picked up the She Hulk comics on two strengths:
1) Online buzz
2) Juan Bobillo's art.
The book is still pretty good, but I like comic books where I like the art. If the art fails to keep me, I don't usually keep the comic.
Atom_basher
03-25-2007, 08:40 AM
The guy doing the initiative comic is NOT a good artist but thats besides the point, id love for Yanick Paquette fto draw she hulk, his style would be almost PERFECT
CyberCoyote
03-25-2007, 08:47 AM
The guy doing the initiative comic is NOT a good artist but thats besides the point, id love for Yanick Paquette fto draw she hulk, his style would be almost PERFECT
It's all in the eye, I think the Initiative is clean and consistent, something that works for me. Not a fan of the current look in Shulkie because it's a little too close to comic strip vs comic book. It could work elsewhere and he's a good artist, but I'll agree a different style would work wonders for me.
shaunyc56
03-26-2007, 01:25 PM
Two words....
JIM BALENT
Superheroic
03-26-2007, 01:31 PM
I am specifically debating dropping this book because of Burchett's art. It just isn't working.
I read the last ish with Wendigo and Wolverine and thought how much better the comic would be with John Byrne on art. (And I'm not championing Byrne to return to She Hulk in particular or Marvel in general, but it woulda been nice to see.)
Dusty.
03-26-2007, 02:45 PM
Two words....
JIM BALENT
Has this quality and MONTHLY artist did anything since Catwoman? Is he too dependable for today's deadline missing market or something?
zeroEDGE
03-26-2007, 02:49 PM
I saw a She-Hulk drawn by Benes and thought it was pretty good, wouldn't mind seeing him draw her :D
Expletive Deleted
03-26-2007, 02:56 PM
Has this quality and MONTHLY artist did anything since Catwoman? Is he too dependable for today's deadline missing market or something?He's been doing his creator-owned book, TAROT.
It's indescribably bad.
Pendaran
03-26-2007, 03:03 PM
He's been doing his creator-owned book, TAROT.
It's indescribably bad.
I disagree.
Chris' Invincible Super Blog does an awesome job of describing how bad it is.
http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2006/12/christmas-special-senses-shattering.html
The Shadow
03-26-2007, 03:03 PM
TAROT.
It's indescribably bad.
:D :D :D :D
That is perhaps the understatement of 2007.
ChildOfTheDarkholde
03-26-2007, 03:13 PM
I am not the biggest fan of the current guy, but I hated the artwork when Bobillo was on She-Hulk. OMG, it was horrible to me.
Dodsons would be AMAZING.
Ditto.
Bobillo's art was dreadful in my opinion, the ugliest She-Hulk I have ever seen, and Burchett's art is no better as far as I'm concerned.
(and Stephano Caselli's art -The Initiative- doesn't thrill me either...all three artists are way too cartoony and "goofy" for my taste and for She-Hulk imo...and BTW, that is not saying they aren't talented or that their art is "bad")
I understand that most people think the kind of comedic writing this book has needs some sort of "quirky" art, but quirky She-Hulk and beautiful She-Hulk don't have to be mutually exclusive: Amanda Conner, Terry Dodson, Gary Frank, Paul Pelletier all have styles that imo fit the unique line between gorgeous-yet-quirky She-hulk that imo would be great for the book.
Re;Jim Balent
I don't think he is a bad artist at all, but as much as I love my She-hulk sexy and stunningly gorgeous I say HELL TO THE NAW to him drawing the book.
His style is basically four color soft-core porn and as much as I dislike the writing in Slott's book, I concede that it's way too intelligent for T&A-heavy art that would only focus on Shulkie's physical atributes.
That's not something I would want for the character, and if there's anything Dan is doing fantastically well in my opinion, it's portraying Shulkie as a smart, powerful, well-rounded human being, as opposed to a sex bomb.
blackphoenix
03-26-2007, 03:14 PM
OMG there are a LOT of artists who could do a kick ass job on this book that seem to have fallen off the edge of the earth:
Steve Skroce(member him from X-Man?)
Angel Medina(LOVED him on Incredible Hulk back in the day)
Amanda Conner: 'nuff said.
Roger Cruz(he did X-MAN too)
Greg Horn. Come on, am I the only one who's tired of the "bait and switch?" You get this cool as hell dirty hot She-Hulk on the cover and when you get inside, it's such a comedown! Horn, draw an entire friggin' issue for once!!!!!
Ariel Olivetti
Mike Wieringo
Superheroic
03-26-2007, 03:42 PM
I agree that Skroce and Cruz have fallen off the earth, well, from comics anyways, but the others are all gainfully employed right now.
Spiderchick1974
03-26-2007, 03:44 PM
Amanda Conner
Dusty.
03-26-2007, 08:19 PM
Here's some art from an upcoming issue. He's not terrible, he's just not "great", and especially for a book that should have T & A visuals. She's even in a bra and panties below, so it's NOT like they are shying away from this aspect, it's just that Burchett isn't up to the task.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Marvelpics/SHulk.jpg
Haunt
03-26-2007, 08:29 PM
She-Hulk needs a chastity belt. Down with the sex!
Amanda Conner
SARAH CONNUH!!
Fatguy
03-26-2007, 11:10 PM
He's been doing his creator-owned book, TAROT.
It's indescribably bad.
I disagree.
Chris' Invincible Super Blog does an awesome job of describing how bad it is.
http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2006/12/christmas-special-senses-shattering.html
lol these made me giggle. :D I was all ready for Pendaran to defend Tarot...
And I do agree, Burchett was one of the main reasons I recently dropped She-Hulk. I dont want to bag on him, but he's not my kind of artist. His style came off as too simple.
Kevinroc
03-26-2007, 11:11 PM
I like the art on She-Hulk. I guess that makes me odd.
The Shadow
03-26-2007, 11:14 PM
Amanda Conner
SOLD!
She'd be perfect!
Will.S
03-26-2007, 11:45 PM
LOL, Jim Balent.
Mariah
03-26-2007, 11:49 PM
Here's some art from an upcoming issue. He's not terrible, he's just not "great", and especially for a book that should have T & A visuals. She's even in a bra and panties below, so it's NOT like they are shying away from this aspect, it's just that Burchett isn't up to the task.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Marvelpics/SHulk.jpg
Ewwww. Flat and boring. Not my cup of tea at all.
DoctorDoom
03-27-2007, 10:24 AM
It's an aquired taste.
shaunyc56
03-27-2007, 11:44 AM
He's been doing his creator-owned book, TAROT.
It's indescribably bad.
The writing is awful, but the art is...... bountiful.
shaunyc56
03-27-2007, 11:46 AM
Here's some art from an upcoming issue. He's not terrible, he's just not "great", and especially for a book that should have T & A visuals. She's even in a bra and panties below, so it's NOT like they are shying away from this aspect, it's just that Burchett isn't up to the task.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Marvelpics/SHulk.jpg
What is w/ all that under support on the bra, She Hulk is gamma powered, that should be enough to stay perky.
***ducks machete on a bike chain***
Man, that preview art makes me so sad. She's so damn plain looking, even in her bra and panties.
Man, that preview art makes me so sad. She's so damn plain looking, even in her bra and panties.
That kind of makes me wish Frank Cho or maybe Micheal Turner was drawing her book.
Will.S
03-27-2007, 03:39 PM
While I like the coloring on the art there, the first two small panels have VERY ODD angles/perspectives. Both Nick and She-Hulk have this weird flat look as if they had no depth, almost similar to the game paper mario.
While I like the coloring on the art there, the first two small panels have VERY ODD angles/perspectives. Both Nick and She-Hulk have this weird flat look as if they had no depth, almost similar to the game paper mario.
And as we ALL know, Jen should NEVER look flat.
MAK15
03-27-2007, 04:16 PM
maybe we need alex miranda or hughes to work on she-hulk?
Erik Lehnsherr
03-27-2007, 05:10 PM
Alright...here we go again...who's the best She-Hulk artist in history? BTW, it would be TOO GOOD to be true if J. Scott Campbell or Michael Turner got to draw her.
The Shadow
03-27-2007, 07:42 PM
The writing is awful, but the art is...... bountiful.
Do you mean Bouncy-full?
AllisterH
03-27-2007, 07:52 PM
Ouch.
I didn't think it was possible to have She-Hulk in bra and panties and make her NOT look sexy.
I stand corrected.
Will.S
03-27-2007, 08:28 PM
Alright...here we go again...who's the best She-Hulk artist in history?
It's either John Byrne or Olivier Coipel for me.
I stopped reading this book ever since Bobillo left and I saw that Slott's writing needed a person like Bobillo to draw it. :(
Haunt
03-27-2007, 10:09 PM
Olivier Copiel was the best Hulk artist, imo.
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=page1&issue=05819410642%2078
Dusty.
03-27-2007, 10:15 PM
John Byrne is the best. Just look at the She-Hulk graphic novel. He drew a picture version of the character that nobody has come close to.
Haunt
03-27-2007, 10:16 PM
John Byrne is the best. Just look at the She-Hulk graphic novel. He drew a picture version of the character that nobody has come close to.
i don't like his version of the character; never have. sorry.
Mariah
03-27-2007, 11:23 PM
Olivier Copiel was the best Hulk artist, imo.
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=page1&issue=05819410642%2078
John Byrne is the best. Just look at the She-Hulk graphic novel. He drew a picture version of the character that nobody has come close to.
I totally agree. And that is one hot looking Shulkie you got there, Haunt.
Flameworthy
03-27-2007, 11:50 PM
Wow, I don't even read this book and I think the art is bad. It looks really flat and lifeless.
SabrinaMorrell
03-28-2007, 08:53 AM
There's no way Burchett won an Eisner.
That She-Hulk art is horrendous...Is that any indictaion of his A-game?
Edward J Cunningham
03-28-2007, 05:32 PM
Here's some art from an upcoming issue. He's not terrible, he's just not "great", and especially for a book that should have T & A visuals. [EMPHASIS MINE] She's even in a bra and panties below, so it's NOT like they are shying away from this aspect, it's just that Burchett isn't up to the task.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Marvelpics/SHulk.jpg
I have to disagree with you, Dusty. I like T & A as much as most fanboy horndogs, but I believe the comic book fans who are most into books like She-Hulk for the T&A may not care for Dan Slott's writing. Furthermore, a significant percentage of the fans who LIKE Dan Slott's writing are turned off by the T&A you think is essential. They've complained about the cheesecake Greg Horn covers, and it looks like Marvel has listened. The past several covers have emphasized humor over cheesecake and Horn himself is NOT drawing the cover to She-Hulk 2 #20.
Maybe this book needs a new penciller and maybe it doesn't. Personally, I'm cool with Burchett. But let's remember that this book is NOT trying to compete with Red Sonja and Witchblade...
I have to disagree with you, Dusty. I like T & A as much as most fanboy horndogs, but I believe the comic book fans who are most into books like She-Hulk for the T&A may not care for Dan Slott's writing. Furthermore, a significant percentage of the fans who LIKE Dan Slott's writing are turned off by the T&A you think is essential. They've complained about the cheesecake Greg Horn covers, and it looks like Marvel has listened. The past several covers have emphasized humor over cheesecake and Horn himself is NOT drawing the cover to She-Hulk 2 #20.
Maybe this book needs a new penciller and maybe it doesn't. Personally, I'm cool with Burchett. But let's remember that this book is NOT trying to compete with Red Sonja and Witchblade...
I don't know... if they're having Jen go around in her underwear, I think T&A is definately a factor in their storytelling.
Deep_Sleeper
03-28-2007, 06:09 PM
I can settle the discussion right here!
Franchesco!
Eric_Carnaby
03-28-2007, 07:46 PM
It looks like Burchett's phoning in his pencils.
His She-Hulk is not only ugly, but there are clear errors of perspective in those panels...
Deep_Sleeper
03-29-2007, 07:09 PM
Here's some Franchesco art:
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/features/images//0607/franchesco/shedragoncover.jpg
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/features/images//0607/franchesco/shedragon2.jpg
Will.S
03-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Here's some Franchesco art:
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/features/images//0607/franchesco/shedragoncover.jpg
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/features/images//0607/franchesco/shedragon2.jpg
Someone should get this dude on She-Hulk ASAP.
Mariah
03-29-2007, 11:31 PM
Here's some Franchesco art:
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/features/images//0607/franchesco/shedragoncover.jpg
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/features/images//0607/franchesco/shedragon2.jpg
Someone should tell him women don't have that much open space around our...open spaces.
Sam T.
03-29-2007, 11:40 PM
This guy seriously does need to be on She-Hulk!
tjarvis
03-30-2007, 01:37 AM
My favorite renditions of She-Hulk are still by McNiven and Pelletier. Bobillo just didn't do it for me, and while I like Burchett better, he's not knocking it out of the park. It's a shame Paul Smith only did a few issues, as I liked his style.
Matt Algren
03-30-2007, 09:04 AM
Two words....
JIM BALENT
He's been doing his creator-owned book, TAROT.
It's indescribably bad.
I disagree.
Chris' Invincible Super Blog does an awesome job of describing how bad it is.
http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2006/12/christmas-special-senses-shattering.html
Chris has heard your suggestions, and has a hidden message for you in today's review (http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2007/03/week-in-ink-3-28-07.html) of Tarot #43. ED, please feel free to remove the link if this qualifies as pornography.
Hint: Mouse over the ridiculous cover.
shaunyc56
03-30-2007, 11:28 AM
Chris has heard your suggestions, and has a hidden message for you in today's review (http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2007/03/week-in-ink-3-28-07.html) of Tarot #43. ED, please feel free to remove the link if this qualifies as pornography.
Hint: Mouse over the ridiculous cover.
I agree, his stories are awful, and the "Azrael Nightshade" witchcraft stuff gets very heavy at times, but he draws beautiful women, his art, period is why I buy his book.
Dusty.
04-20-2007, 10:35 PM
I would like to complain again, because we are 3 issues into what had all the ingredients to be a great Marvel comics romp for the ages, but the art holds it back from being above a "decent" story arc.
Hatut Zeraze
04-21-2007, 01:48 PM
Of the suggestions I've heard, my favorites are Amanda Conner and John Byrne.
A lot of other artists mentioned fall into that "cheesecake" artist category, like that Francesco guy, and honestly, I'd be fine with most of them coming on, as well.
One suggestion I noticed several posters mention was Michael Turner. I have not been a fan of Burchett's work on this title, but I hesitate, not at all in saying that if my choices were Burchett or Turner, I'd stick with Burchett every time. My complaints about Burchett are things I can deal with. Michael Turner's art gives me a headache.
DaNerd
04-21-2007, 02:13 PM
I agree that I just do not care for the art style on this book. Makes it hard to get into. I do enjoy the writing though, some fun stuff there.
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