wolverine and the xmen animated series

[caney]

Is there any news one when this is supposed to start airing or on what network? TV was how I was introduced to the muties, so I'm excited to see new stuff for them back on air.

[Beast]

Is there any news one when this is supposed to start airing or on what network? TV was how I was introduced to the muties, so I'm excited to see new stuff for them back on air.
It's not supposed to start until '08, as far as I know.

From the last I heard, they just finished the last episode of the first season.

[caney]

It's not supposed to start until '08, as far as I know.

From the last I heard, they just finished the last episode of the first season.

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize they finished full seasons of cartoons this long before they actually started airing them, but if they've got a full season done already, it sounds like they're pretty committed to making it work.

[Affinity]

Yeah, I didn't know that they did it so far in advance. That's mighty cool.

You'd think they'd wait, lolol.

[Joe Franklin]

Who cares about such details when you can have Halle Berry leading the X-men?

Some folks don't like to look at attractive women in tight leather outfits when they watch a movie.:confused: To each their own I guess. :)

[pariah-1972]

since we are talking about x men movies did anyone notice that they made Storm kind of a bitch in the movie?
especially in the last one with her always argueing and bitching with Wolvie.
i blame the writers personally.

[Slung]

since we are talking about x men movies did anyone notice that they made Storm kind of a bitch in the movie?
especially in the last one with her always argueing and bitching with Wolvie.
i blame the writers personally.

She was a terrible character that the writers didn't know what to do with. What else should they have her do? Bitching made Emma cool.

[pariah-1972]

She was a terrible character that the writers didn't know what to do with. What else should they have her do? Bitching made Emma cool.But thats the difference Emma can pull that off because thats who she is and she can be strong and assertive without being whiney and bitchy.

[The Master Meglomaniac]

With a series like this, I suspect the creators will have to tone down certain elements from the comics, but hopefully they could make up for it with creative script writing. There are ways of tonning down certain elements from the comics, yet still getting the point across, look at BTAS and new TMNT toon.

There are a lot of stories in X-Men that were very dark and didn't make a whole lot of sense. Look at the Mutant Massacre storyline from X-Men, with the Marauders attacking the Morlocks for the most convoluted of reasons, as outlined by the wiki:

"Originally it was stated that the Massacre was held to remove wild card mutants (such as the Morlocks). It was later revealed (via a retcon by Scott Lobdell and others) that due to his arrival 20 years prior to the present Earth 616 the Dark Beast was responsible for the creation of the Morlocks using the technology from the Mister Sinister of his world.
As a result Sinister wanted all traces of this removed and had the Marauders carry out the extermination of the Morlocks. The retcon also tied Gambit into the Mutant Massacre as well."

So not only is that story too dark for TV, it is really too stupid to be retold in its original form. However there are ways to tone it down and make it more sensible. For example Sinister can hire the Marauders to capture the Morlocks so he can perform all types of experiments on them and the X-Men have to fight Sinister and the Marauders to save them.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

since we are talking about x men movies did anyone notice that they made Storm kind of a bitch in the movie?
especially in the last one with her always argueing and bitching with Wolvie.
i blame the writers personally.

I rather refer to it as 'Ro glorious random tantrums. :D

The average bitch's mind/psyche usually somewhat of a structure to it, rather than, say, go pissed whenever a single issue bloody arises.

But, hey, it's the best way they could show 'Ro had an actual persona and was, quote, "strong in her beliefs".

Clever writing 101 or something.

[Omega Alpha]

With a series like this, I suspect the creators will have to tone down certain elements from the comics, but hopefully they could make up for it with creative script writing. There are ways of tonning down certain elements from the comics, yet still getting the point across, look at BTAS and new TMNT toon.

There are a lot of stories in X-Men that were very dark and didn't make a whole lot of sense. Look at the Mutant Massacre storyline from X-Men, with the Marauders attacking the Morlocks for the most convoluted of reasons, as outlined by the wiki:

"Originally it was stated that the Massacre was held to remove wild card mutants (such as the Morlocks). It was later revealed (via a retcon by Scott Lobdell and others) that due to his arrival 20 years prior to the present Earth 616 the Dark Beast was responsible for the creation of the Morlocks using the technology from the Mister Sinister of his world.
As a result Sinister wanted all traces of this removed and had the Marauders carry out the extermination of the Morlocks. The retcon also tied Gambit into the Mutant Massacre as well."

So not only is that story too dark for TV, it is really too stupid to be retold in its original form. However there are ways to tone it down and make it more sensible. For example Sinister can hire the Marauders to capture the Morlocks so he can perform all types of experiments on them and the X-Men have to fight Sinister and the Marauders to save them.

Nah, you can't have a story called Mutant Massacre and have it being toned down for kids.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

The Mutant Bash?

[Slung]

But thats the difference Emma can pull that off because thats who she is and she can be strong and assertive without being whiney and bitchy.

Just so we're clear - I don't mean Storm is a terrible character. I mean Halle-movie-Storm is a terrible character.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Just so we're clear - I don't mean Storm is a terrible character. I mean Halle-movie-Storm is a terrible character.

Kind of a world of difference indeed.

But I gotta say, Storm flying off the handle in any verse isn't exactly a foreign notion. :D

[The Master Meglomaniac]

Nah, you can't have a story called Mutant Massacre and have it being toned down for kids.

What about BTAS version of the the Laughing Fish or the 2k3 TMNT version of return to NY?

Besides a would talking about a somewhat loose adaption, "Mutant Massacre" wouldn't be the episode title, for example. Also can you explain to me why the Marauders killed the Morlocks?

[Deus ex Chris]

Kind of a world of difference indeed.

But I gotta say, Storm flying off the handle in any verse isn't exactly a foreign notion. :D
Well, Claremont isn't writing her anymore, so hopefully she'll be less crazy.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well, Claremont isn't writing her anymore, so hopefully she'll be less crazy.

Amen to that.

Oh, wait, f****n Hudlin and that glorious chat with Stark. And the cheerleader thingy. With Sue Storm of all freakin people. :(

[Deus ex Chris]

Amen to that.

Oh, wait, f****n Hudlin and that glorious chat with Stark. And the cheerleader thingy. With Sue Storm of all freakin people. :(
Well, she's had some rough patches, but I like to believe they're just working out the kinks. Plus, Brubaker's writing her now, and aside from the claustrophobia drama, I'm really enjoying it.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well, she's had some rough patches, but I like to believe they're just working out the kinks. Plus, Brubaker's writing her now, and aside from the claustrophobia drama, I'm really enjoying it.

Working for the past 10+, arguably 15 years? :D

And as for Bru's Storm. Got nothing against her. But I'm not expecting much more than a dignified Cyke/Emma hybrid for the crossoever, really.

[pariah-1972]

Just so we're clear - I don't mean Storm is a terrible character. I mean Halle-movie-Storm is a terrible character.Thats exactly what i'm saying.

[Matthew K.]

Thats exactly what i'm saying.

"Do you know what happens to a Toad when it is struck by lightening?"


Ugh...yeah...the worst line in cinema history. Thank you.

[Alan2099]

The Mutant Bash?

Sounds like a huge party at the X-mansion.

[Matthew K.]

Sounds like a huge party at the X-mansion.

SWEET! Let's crash it!

[pariah-1972]

"Do you know what happens to a Toad when it is struck by lightening?"


Ugh...yeah...the worst line in cinema history. Thank you.I didn't think it was that bad.

[Beast]

"Do you know what happens to a Toad when it is struck by lightening?"


Ugh...yeah...the worst line in cinema history. Thank you.
You can thank Joss Whedon for that one.

[Matthew K.]

I didn't think it was that bad.


The line itself wasn't bad, per se, but it was the damn follow-up that failed to deliver & really killed the whole thing.

[Phil Hunn]

You can thank Joss Whedon for that one.

Now, see, I heard that that line wasn't actually the sole surviving piece of dialogue from Joss Whedon's script treatment. But then again, Joss Whedon also has a fondness for decrying his script for Alien Resurrection (as well he should. It was crap), so who knows?

[pariah-1972]

Now, see, I heard that that line wasn't actually the sole surviving piece of dialogue from Joss Whedon's script treatment. But then again, Joss Whedon also has a fondness for decrying his script for Alien Resurrection (as well he should. It was crap), so who knows?I don't know why he would admit writing that infamous piece of dialogue.

[Deus ex Chris]

I don't know why he would admit writing that infamous piece of dialogue.
Because it wasn't a terrible line. It was just poorly delivered.

[Pach!]

I thought it was a terrible line poorly delivered.

[Deus ex Chris]

I thought it was a terrible line poorly delivered.
It was a line so poorly delivered that it sounded terrible.

The proper delivery:

Storm: Do you know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning?

(Lightning strikes Toad, killing him.)

Storm: (nonchalantly/offhandedly as she walks away) The same thing that happens to everything else.

[Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost]

She was supposed to have an attitude not act like a stuck up snob when she said it...it was totally the delivery...because people would wonder if there WAS something that happened to toads when struck by lightening...but it's nothing special.

basically saying he isn't special.


Anyway i hope they don't change it so that Wolverine assembled this team...that'd just screw with everyone's heads.

[kate-pryde]

Joss also wrote the line, "You're a dick."

Here's an interview where Joss talked about it:

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/24238

JW: "Actually, there are a couple of lines left in that are out of context and make no sense, or are delivered so badly, so terribly... There's one line that's left the way I wrote it.

O: Which is?

JW: "'It's me.' 'Prove it.' 'You're a dick.'" Hey, it got a laugh.

O: It's funny that the only lines I really remember from that movie are that one and Storm's toad comment.

JW: Okay, which was also mine, and that's the interesting thing. Everybody remembers that as the worst line ever written, but the thing about that is, it was supposed to be delivered as completely offhand. [Adopts casual, bored tone.] "You know what happens when a toad gets hit by lightning?" Then, after he gets electrocuted, "Ahhh, pretty much the same thing that happens to anything else." But Halle Berry said it like she was Desdemona. [Strident, ringing voice.] "The same thing that happens to everything eeelse!" That's the thing that makes you go crazy. At least "You're a dick" got delivered right. The worst thing about these things is that, when the actors say it wrong, it makes the writer look stupid. People assume that the line... I listened to half the dialogue in Alien 4, and I'm like, "That's idiotic," because of the way it was said. And nobody knows that. Nobody ever gets that. They say, "That was a stupid script," which is the worst pain in the world. I have a great long boring story about that, but I can tell you the very short version. In Alien 4, the director changed something so that it didn't make any sense. He wanted someone to go and get a gun and get killed by the alien, so I wrote that in and tried to make it work, but he directed it in a way that it made no sense whatsoever. And I was sitting there in the editing room, trying to come up with looplines to explain what's going on, to make the scene make sense, and I asked the director, "Can you just explain to me why he's doing this? Why is he going for this gun?" And the editor, who was French, turned to me and said, with a little leer on his face, [adopts gravelly, smarmy, French-accented voice] "Because eet's een the screept." And I actually went and dented the bathroom stall with my puddly little fist. I have never been angrier. But it's the classic, "When something goes wrong, you assume the writer's a dork." And that's painful.

[Phil Hunn]

I have a great long boring story about that, but I can tell you the very short version. In Alien 4, the director changed something so that it didn't make any sense. He wanted someone to go and get a gun and get killed by the alien, so I wrote that in and tried to make it work, but he directed it in a way that it made no sense whatsoever. And I was sitting there in the editing room, trying to come up with looplines to explain what's going on, to make the scene make sense, and I asked the director, "Can you just explain to me why he's doing this? Why is he going for this gun?" And the editor, who was French, turned to me and said, with a little leer on his face, [adopts gravelly, smarmy, French-accented voice] "Because eet's een the screept." And I actually went and dented the bathroom stall with my puddly little fist. I have never been angrier. But it's the classic, "When something goes wrong, you assume the writer's a dork." And that's painful.

So basically what he's saying is "My scripts are awesome! It's all the editor's fault!"

Sorry, doesn't wash.

[Deus ex Chris]

So basically what he's saying is "My scripts are awesome! It's all the editor's fault!"

Sorry, doesn't wash.
Actually, actors and directors **** up good scripts all the time. I'm not saying Aliens 4 was a good script. I've never seen the film or read the script, but it certainly happens.

[Phil Hunn]

Actually, actors and directors **** up good scripts all the time. I'm not saying Aliens 4 was a good script. I've never seen the film or read the script, but it certainly happens.

Thing is, Alien 4 could never have been a good film ever, even with a better director. It was pants - hell, the half-Alien Resurrect-O-Ripley was the least of its problems...

[Deus ex Chris]

Thing is, Alien 4 could never have been a good film ever, even with a better director. It was pants - hell, the half-Alien Resurrect-O-Ripley was the least of its problems...

LOL
I didn't expect it to be great, but I can imagine the director and actors only making things worse. Halle Berry did it with that awful delivery in X-Men. People in theatre do it all the time as well.

[Phil Hunn]

LOL
I didn't expect it to be great, but I can imagine the director and actors only making things worse. Halle Berry did it with that awful delivery in X-Men. People in theatre do it all the time as well.

Yeah, the delivery of dialogue can change everything, this is true. Sometimes the incorrect inflection can change the entire tone of a sentence.

Words are crazy :p

[Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost]

Intonations, inflections, pauses, accents these all make or break a writen line.

Also the emotion involved. Think of how many different ways you can say "oh my god!" you can be excited, sad, scared...it's the same with any line.

Halle said it like she was snobbish and bored...but then as Catwoman she took herself far too seriously.

[Phil Hunn]

Intonations, inflections, pauses, accents these all make or break a writen line.

Also the emotion involved. Think of how many different ways you can say "oh my god!" you can be excited, sad, scared...it's the same with any line.

Halle said it like she was snobbish and bored...but then as Catwoman she took herself far too seriously.

Indeed. The way she said "Cat got your tongue?" (when actually grabbing a guy by the tongue) just screamed "take my movie seriously! Please take my movie seriously!" In a situation like that you need somebody playful and willing to poke fun at themselves.

Julie Newmar or Michelle Pfeiffer would have done it effortlessly, I tell you. Effortlessly!

[Matthew K.]

attractiveness generally outweighs talent.

(though the "attractive" individual themselves in generally underweight...)


You fellows are right, Halle Berry delivered those lines very poorly...& that has tainted them & their effectiveness.

[Phil Hunn]

attractiveness generally outweighs talent.

Are you badmouthing the purrfect Julie Newmar?

Begone from my sight! :mad:

[XYagentguy]

No new info on this at all? LAAAAAAme.

[DeniseXfrost]

tripple post

[DeniseXfrost]

tripple post

[DeniseXfrost]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9412/wolverine220fg9us3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4944/wolverinezw5bp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wolverine unmasked.

[DeniseXfrost]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9412/wolverine220fg9us3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4944/wolverinezw5bp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wolverine unmasked.

[DeniseXfrost]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9412/wolverine220fg9us3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4944/wolverinezw5bp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wolverine unmasked.

[Brent1974]

Does anyone have any updates on this series?? Has a airdate been set?/ I know that 'The Spectacular Spider-Man starts in March. I was thinking that would be a perfect debut for this series as well.

Brent

[CaptainCanada]

I think it has been said to be Fall 2008.

[creaky]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9412/wolverine220fg9us3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4944/wolverinezw5bp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wolverine unmasked.

Too...pretty. He even has little curls! Where's the man-sweat, the stubble, the crust of dirt and blood and other body fluids? Where's the aura of fat, happy flies? Who is this tall, handsome, de-flead fellow? Ew.

[tunasammiches]

I think he looks awesome. Love the abstraction on his arms and his hair.

[Beast]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9412/wolverine220fg9us3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4944/wolverinezw5bp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wolverine unmasked.
Not bad. If the rest of the animation looks as good, I can't wait.

[pariah-1972]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9412/wolverine220fg9us3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4944/wolverinezw5bp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wolverine unmasked.He looks a little like Elvis there actually.

[Matthew K.]

He looks a little like Elvis there actually.

Yes, all he needs is to croon out some "thank you very much" and some "pretty mama" and he's Elvis.

[Brett P]

He looks too slender and clean. I hate todays style of animation, it's all a bit too cartoony. I want more real and gritty like the 90's shows...

Is it really not out until the fall?!! It was supposed to be end of 2007/early 2008!

[Brent1974]

I think it has been said to be Fall 2008.

He looks too slender and clean. I hate todays style of animation, it's all a bit too cartoony. I want more real and gritty like the 90's shows...

Is it really not out until the fall?!! It was supposed to be end of 2007/early 2008!

Ugh, I could have sworn I heard Early '08 too something like latest May :( Dang :(

[rwsmith]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9412/wolverine220fg9us3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4944/wolverinezw5bp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wolverine unmasked.

Looks alright. He should be hairier, though. And perhaps a bit bulkier (he looks a bit too streamlined there for my taste).

[Vegetarian Goat]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9412/wolverine220fg9us3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4944/wolverinezw5bp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wolverine unmasked.

i love it.

[Shaid O Gray]

Doesn't look bad (at least he doesn't have that weird nose the Evo Wolvie had) a little too clean-cut.

But when your biceps are twice as thick as your thighs, then I think something went wrong somewhere :rolleyes:

[DeniseXfrost]

I love the background

[Brett P]

I love the background

Yeah it looks awesome, but makes the cartoony-ness of the character look all the worse!

[DeniseXfrost]

Well it still looks better than F4 animated series.

[ProfeZZor X]

They'd be better off calling it "Wolverine and those other people that saved his sorry ass in the Canadian woods... No not Alpha Flight, but those mutant goodie two-shows"

Hell, next he'll have his own talk show and network... It'll be known as the "W" channel. With guest appearances by Sabertooth, Omega Red, and the Silver Samurai. And all Wolvie will talk about is how he kicked their butt.

[ProfeZZor X]

double post

[creaky]

They'd be better off calling it "Wolverine and those other people that saved his sorry ass in the Canadian woods... No not Alpha Flight, but those mutant goodie two-shows"

But that just doesn't have a nice ring to it.

[BabeBro]

They'd be better off calling it "Wolverine and those other people that saved his sorry ass in the Canadian woods... No not Alpha Flight, but those mutant goodie two-shows"

Hell, next he'll have his own talk show and network... It'll be known as the "W" channel. With guest appearances by Sabertooth, Omega Red, and the Silver Samurai. And all Wolvie will talk about is how he kicked their butt.
You just made me spit out my juice!!!! LMAO!!!

[Mr.EZ]

Here's the new trailer for the show. I kinda dig it.

http://www.cyber-animation.com/wolverine/wolverine.htm

[Pach!]

Brian will not be happy.

It looks fun though.

[Nyssane]

OMG, the cartoon looks so awesome!

Iceman looks adorable, Avalanche is prominently featured, Rogue looks fiiierce... it's about damn time they did something with this show. DOMINO? Ew! :( Though maybe the Six Pack will appear and they'll be like "Let's use Anaconda instead of Grizzly!" And then I will cum in my panties.

[Brian M.]

Brian will not be happy.

It looks fun though.

Don't tell me Emma and Scott are together in it?

There will be blood.

[Jake V]

Don't tell me Emma and Scott are together in it?

There will be blood.

Jean not being there really frees him up.

[_Jayme_]

I'm glad it doesn't look anything like Evolution or TAS, even though having the same premise of TAS would be nice. Can't wait to see Emma more.

[worstblogever]

Don't tell me Emma and Scott are together in it?

There will be blood.

Blood there may be.

Jean may be what blows up Proffy McBrokenlegs in that opening scene... it's unclear what happens to the both of them, though.

But there will be some brooding, unshaven Cyclops scenes where he reminds Wolverine why he was in charge, based off that "good talk". Take the good with the bad, Brian.

Had I to venture a guess, it looks like they're using as much continuity from the movies for this cartoon, to bring in the most fans, thus, writing out Jean after what happens in X3. Writing in Emma/Scott might be a slow process they ease into across a whole season, or a few.

[Pach!]

Don't tell me Emma and Scott are together in it?

There will be blood.

Not yet. LOL. For what it's worth Jean cameos.

[jmc247]

Jean not being there really frees him up.

If the series is successful it might solitify the Emma/Cyke relationship in the minds of younger fans. Thus, make it alot less likely we will see a return of Jean and Scott for a very long time.

I do think Marvel have been pushing Lorna out of the way and Pietro and Wanda back into the spotlight in their comics because they are supposed to be a ongoing part of the animated series from the beginning. And, if there is an Avengers film, which there likely will be they might want Wanda and Pietro in it.

Marvel higher ups are the ones calling the shots today and movies and TV are their big money makers. Having Jean not be in Wolverine and the X-Men may also put off Marvel bringing her back in the 616 for quite a few years, if fans are happy with the big breasted Jean replacement.

[Nyssane]

I can't believe they fucking used Domino instead of Lorelei, Phantazia, Mastermind II, Frenzy, or even Mystique. GRAHHH! They ALWAYS do this to me! They did it in Evolution with fuggin' Boom Boom, too! STOP PUTTING CHARACTERS THAT AREN'T IN THE BROTHERHOOD ON THE TEAM IN ANIMATION. THEY SUCK. Now if you wanted to put someone like Thumbelina in the Brotherhood... that'd be okay. Any other villainesses are fine, but NO X-MEN. GOD.

[/rant]

[Mr.EZ]

Emma's on the poster, Jean isn't. I'd say Cyke/Emma is the route the show's taking.

[_Jayme_]

Oh yeah..forgot to mention this...I'm glad it's not purely focused on Wolverine. Alot of the scenes were of Rogue so I bet she's gonna play a big role in it..

Damn it..I wanted more Emma :(

[Hi-Fi]

OMG Rogue looks great!! And I LOVE her voice!!

[Pach!]

It's awesome that Bobby is in this.

[Vegetarian Goat]

That trailer was amazing. I want to see the whole show now :(

[ExtraEpidermis]

Great trailer. I watched it twice now since I've been back in my room and I'm about to go at it again. Whats up with Pyro being good, and a teenager, now? I wanna see Pyro and Avalanche on the brotherhood together! Aside from that bad Domino doesn't make a lot of sense but if they had to make someone bad (or a possible insider for Wolverine?) I guess she makes sense. This totally has my hyped to watch the show.

[xmanfan527]

does any body know when its supposed to air?

[Nyssane]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/CartoonPyro.jpg

Who's the Blonde behind Pyro? ANACONDA? Or, more realistically, Lorelei or Phantazia?!?!

C'mon, if it's Boom Boom, I will shit myself.

[ExtraEpidermis]

Is that a billboard of Magneto behind Quicksilver and Domino?

[jmc247]

Is that a billboard of Magneto behind Quicksilver and Domino?

Yes, and it says Genosha.

If Genosha is going to be a big storyline Lorna better show up eventually. Magneto's kingdom isn't the same without Lorna. Genosha has been vital to Lorna's character much as Lorna was vital to the creation of mutant controlled Genosha.

[_Jayme_]

Well, you have to look at who's already in the cast...Domino is, so I wouldn't put it past them to throw in Lorna at some point..

[ExtraEpidermis]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/CartoonPyro.jpg

Who's the Blonde behind Pyro? ANACONDA? Or, more realistically, Lorelei or Phantazia?!?!

C'mon, if it's Boom Boom, I will shit myself.

Thats totally Boom Boom. Pyro shouldn't be able to create fire so he may be manipulating her explosions. Just a hypothesis but yeah, that's probably Boom Boom. You should shit yourself just in case. lol.

[Brian M.]

It's wrong to put Emma Frost, a former stripper/hooker/guttertrash, up there on the screen for kids to see.

I'm calling the FCC.

[Swashbuckler]

This looks amazing. I'm very excited for this now. I love loving cartoons at the age of 25.

[Pach!]

It's wrong to put Emma Frost, a former stripper/hooker/guttertrash, up there on the screen for kids to see.

I'm calling the FCC.
She probably won't be a stripper there.

[Porcelain]

Huh, different. Nice to see them do something fresh, Rogue looks really interesting and different way to start the show. It's kinda cute :D

(Even if there's no where Xavier/Jean are safe)

Edit: Kitty's super cute too. When/where is this airing?

[Jake V]

It's wrong to put Emma Frost, a former stripper/hooker/guttertrash, up there on the screen for kids to see.

I'm calling the FCC.

Would it be equally wrong to show redheads who cheat on their husbands with midgets on children's TV as well?

[Brian M.]

Would it be equally wrong to show redheads who cheat on their husbands with midgets on children's TV as well?

No it would not. Aslong as she goes back to Cyclops, the original man she loved.

[RoguishGurl]

this looks really good. Rogue looks so badass in it.

[Optic Rage!]

wow...didnt take long to off Jean & Xavier did it?

So wow, looks like marvel are really going full swing for scott/emma.

I also love it when scott owns logan..good thing it happens alot.

[Bic]

Cool, I didn't realize the show was going to feature a continuing story line. Now I'm curious to see how Wolverine and his merry mob of misfit mutants manage to "prevent de world's destruction."

[LetsGoForIt]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/CartoonPyro.jpg

Who's the Blonde behind Pyro? ANACONDA? Or, more realistically, Lorelei or Phantazia?!?!

C'mon, if it's Boom Boom, I will shit myself.



if that's supposed to be rusty collins, the blonde behind him might be skids

[Beast]

While I still don't like the name, I have to say the show looks pretty bad ass so far. :)

Not quite sold on Beast's voice as of yet though. But it looks cool. :D

[HeckBoy]

Wow, that looks great. Whoo Archangel's gonna be in it (at least as a guest role), I can't wait. Has it been picked up yet? I seem to recall it was supposed to be on like Kids WB w/ that new Spidey cartoon. Anyone know what's up in terms of distribution/airing?

[ExtraEpidermis]

if that's supposed to be rusty collins, the blonde behind him might be skids

If it is, please for the love of all that is holy, change Skid's name in the show. You can call her Sally the entire season. I don't care. Force field girl works too. Just not Skids.

[Beast]

Anyone manage to find a direct link to the video, so it can be downloaded?

[Deus ex Chris]

That looks fantastic. Can't wait.

[Askani's Flame]

It looks cool, but I'm not a fan of the removal of Jean in that fashion. I guess I'll have to wait and see how she is taken out but Scott who's right next to her is perfectly fine. Or maybe she goes missing and assumed dead?

And I am not a fan of Emma being thrown in the mix like this. I get they are trying to mimic the comics, but eww. I guess I will have to wait and see how she is included into the cast.

They should also have various members of New X-Men make cameos. That would be awesome.

So I will watch it, but am not as excited as I should be right now.

[Beast]

I think the cast is already way too huge without throwing the New X-Men in there.

Like you said, maybe as background cameos. But they're better off focusing on the main characters.

[Luck911]

Thats totally Boom Boom. Pyro shouldn't be able to create fire so he may be manipulating her explosions. Just a hypothesis but yeah, that's probably Boom Boom. You should shit yourself just in case. lol.

It was probably pyro he was spinning the fire around in circle

It looks pretty good,based on posters and the trailer

Wolverine
Rogue
Quicksilver
Angel
Cyclops
Domino
Blob
White queen
Nightcrawler
Beast
Colossus
Shadowcat
Avalanche
Pyro
Storm
Jean grey
Professor X
Puff of smoke guy?

Decent line up

[Jackob]

wow that looks great.
i love all the characters that they have in it, and it looks like it will be a sweet storyline.

does any one know what channel this will be on?

[Nyssane]

One of the actors lists on his resume that he does the voice of Kamal, one of the Acolytes. That means... CARGILL, UNUO, & SCAN-SCAN?!

[jmc247]

It was probably pyro he was spinning the fire around in circle

It looks pretty good,based on posters and the trailer

Wolverine
Rogue
Quicksilver
Angel
Cyclops
Domino
Blob
White queen
Nightcrawler
Beast
Colossus
Shadowcat
Avalanche
Pyro
Storm
Jean grey
Professor X
Puff of smoke guy?

Decent line up

They also have someone hired for Wanda's voice from the very first ep.

[rwsmith]

Damn, dude! That actually looks fantastic. When does it debut again?

[Mr.EZ]

It's only known that it's coming out sometime in 2008 and the network is unknown. Since Kids WB is on it's way out, I'd say Cartoon Network is likely.

[rwsmith]

Sweet! My daughter will be 1 and a half by next fall. Never too early to get her into the X-men. ;)

[caney]

Very cool trailer!

Looks like a talented group of voice actors as well (according to what they have on wikipedia). Can't wait!

[Domo Goddess]

I like the artwork from what I saw in the trailer with the exception of Storm's hair. I'm a little interested in seeing Colossus since I may or may not see my favorite red Russian.

[frog]

Shame on Rogue!

Is the actual cartoon likely to use current pop music or is that just for the trailer?

Looks like they decided to base Beast directly off of X-3 Hank.

[Toboe]

I am sure impressed by this, it looks fantastic. It feels almost as if it's a continuation to X-Men: Evolution, the characters are somewhat similar and it fits the place in which they were left at the end of the series.

I'm glad they're taking Xavier and Jean out, but it seems a little too sudden. I'll just wait to see how it plays out. Cyclops in full emo mode leaves the door open for Wolverine to take charge, I guess. And it would be the perfect time for Emma Frost to snap him out of it. Wonder where Storm fits into this now.

The scene with Wolverine and Iceman was hilarious, and Rogue looks fierce.

Kitty Pryde's costume is terrible, though.

Looks quite promising, but I still totally hate the name. Between this and Wolverine First Class... both look good, but the names are horrid. Marvel really needs to start putting some more originality into titles so they don't look that much as blatant attempts to capitalize Wolverine.

[soulkiller]

Awesome! 'bout time they released something new about this!

And Rogue looks freakin' AWESOME!!! ...but why can we see through her white streak? Invisible hair! :D She totally looks bad ass!

The animation looks pretty good, but I don't like the way they do faces. It looks kinda ugly. I liked the animation on Evolution more. But it looks really action packed! This is going to be a good series!

[Beast]

Shame on Rogue!

Is the actual cartoon likely to use current pop music or is that just for the trailer?

Looks like they decided to base Beast directly off of X-3 Hank.
You're right. At first I thought it was similar to X-Men: Evolution's design for him.

http://x-men.toonzone.net/guides/fbeast.php

But after comparing, I really like this version a lot more. And he's actually blue, which is a nice change from X-Men: Evolution. Though I really can't say I like the upper part of his new costume though.

[frog]

Looks quite promising, but I still totally hate the name. Between this and Wolverine First Class... both look good, but the names are horrid. Marvel really needs to start putting some more originality into titles so they don't look that much as blatant attempts to capitalize Wolverine.

Well, both those are aimed at kids and kids don't mind blatant as much as we do. It probably is a good marketing choice.


And at least we'll still see Kitty somewhere.

[frog]

You're right. At first I thought it was similar to X-Men: Evolution's design for him.

http://x-men.toonzone.net/guides/fbeast.php

But after comparing, I really like this version a lot more. And he's actually blue, which is a nice change from X-Men: Evolution. Though I really can't say I like the upper part of his new costume though.

Yes, on the poster he looked liked the Evolution version but in the trailer he's absolute Kelsey!

[Deus ex Chris]

I like the artwork from what I saw in the trailer with the exception of Storm's hair.
What? Storm's hair is FABULOUS. Love it!

[tunasammiches]

I'm not really sure how I feel about it. The still shots looked really good, but seeing the animation disappointed me. You can see in the character designs that a lot of Indian visual styles influenced a lot of the aesthetic direction [ie-facial structures, hairstyles—Storm, Kitty and Beast's hair in particular]. I would have no problem with it but it seems undeveloped and the animation itself was pretty rigid. What's interesting too is that on the website, it says that cartoon targets kids from 6-12, but I think that's always been the problem with all incarnations of this cartoon, and I think the reason they don't last more than 5 seasons: they're skewing too young. These stories are dark, mature, and complicated and I think if they're going to release stuff like this and tell the stories they want to, they need to target a different audience by broadcasting on different channels or maybe prime time. I would personally love to see X-Men ranked with some Toonami or Adult Swim on Cartoon Network.

That being said, W&TXM still isn't as horrific looking as TAS, which I believe was done by 2 separate animation studios. One being Philippine Animation Studio Inc. Now that American cartoons have evolved, I realize how much I had to settle for in the 90's. Sure, there were some shining visual moments, like the Dark Phonix Saga, but overall, the character designs were mediocre, the animation was GOD AWEFUL, the voice acting [except for Rogue and Wolverine] sucked and most of all, the cell COLORING was <b>downright disgusting.</b> Although it seems to be the one favored out of all.

For me, it was a perfect marriage of great writing and great visuals. The X-Men's best cartoons as far as script, animation style, character design and voice acting was X-Men: Evolution, written by the amazing Chris Yost and Craig Kyle, and directed by animation god, Steven E. Gordon. That series should have lasted more than 4 seasons. I think if they let it run longer, like say FOREVER, then it woulda ended up pleasing everyone. The new interpretation of the X-Men stories and characterization was refreshing. I mean, does anyone remember how flawlessly Rogue kicked Wolverine's ass in that one scene where she got overwhelmed by all her personalities? She's rarely ever this bad ass in the comics as she was in this cartoon. Not to mention they had sme great brother/sister moments with her and Nightcrawler which STILL has to get further explored in the comics.

And 1989's pilot, the classic Pryde of the X-Men, comes next in the line of good X-Men cartooning. where the story line wasn't anything to write home about, the animation style was AMAZING and that half hour gave us fan boys and girls the right amount of BAD ASS. Plus: Dazzler and Nightcrawler. *swoon*

All in all, I'm glad X-Men's still got cartoons coming out, but with Marvel's track record with sub-par animation studios [not at all counting the Steven E. Gordon Evolution stuff, because that was UNTOUCHABLE] and ugly toy companies producing the deliverables for this franchise [I'm looking at you Toy Biz], I just wish they'd get their heads out of their asses already. With cell animated cartoons fading into obscurity for computer animation, I'm nervous about ever getting what I think the fans want to see, one thing being Wolverine's claws actually stabbing people. This needs to happen because killing androids as a plot device is wearing really thin.

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[Luck911]

I am very excited about the animated series but it about time marvel moved into the modern age with its cartoons.Cartoons are not just for kids and this one will fail eventually like American cartoons due.What marvel needs to pull a witchblade have American cartoon with anime perspective.X-men comic is age bracket is not 6-12 so why would you do cartoon to that age bracket.

They need hire a good Japanese anime studio have them make cartoon that appeals to a age range like 12-18(toonami) or 18 and older(adult swim).They will also be open themselves to Japanese market which buy huge amount comics and anime.

If done right it will be perfect storm because both American and Japanese audience will buy like hot cakes.If anyone doubts this way that a cartoon should go looks at runs Nartuo, Dragonball Z, Yugioh, Pokemon, Inuyasha, Bleach,etc each of these shows had way longer run than any other American cartoon with exception of the Simpsons which has in common factor them that is not a kid show.

i really don't want take discussion off topic of the wolverine and x-men series but it little sad to marvel taking this approach when they step forward the ultimates with being rated pg -13(if it was rated R it could be been even closer to the real comic).I love x-men so i know i am going to like the series but hate the fact it will probably end 3-5 seasons and it subject matter and characterizations will be limited to due the age group it is being market at.

edit-Beaten to punch by tunasammiches

[Toadman005]

At first glance, it has potential....nice to see Blob, Avalanche, Rogue as herself.... not big on what I'm seeing of Pyro and Cyclops however.

[Matthew K.]

Here's the new trailer for the show. I kinda dig it.

http://www.cyber-animation.com/wolverine/wolverine.htm

Woo-hoo...that was a pleasant surprise. I look forward to it. Wolvie, Domino, Scott, Quicksilver, Rogue and the new(er) recruits look pretty good. (Plus, badass Foo Fighters inclusion made it much more like a movie trailer).

I've been thinking the comics should take this direction since around the time of the X-Men: TAS finale.

[La Fea]

This looks awesome. I actually think Wolverine bringing the X-Men back together seems really great.

I have to say, it really seems like a continuation of X-Men Evolution from the anmation (though I heard its not).

I'm guessing Rogue is a double-agent, though it would be cool if she actually did the reverse and genuinely turned to the Brotherhood.

I'm glad to see Greg Johnson is attached to this. He wrote all the X-Men Evolution episodes I liked.

Can't wait.

[Luck911]

Looks quite promising, but I still totally hate the name. Between this and Wolverine First Class... both look good, but the names are horrid. Marvel really needs to start putting some more originality into titles so they don't look that much as blatant attempts to capitalize Wolverine.

You need to take a marketing class.It is almost stupid not take advantage of big seller,It is like coke making a new drink and calling Lemon and not Coke Lemon.You market brands and wolverine is a brand and stuff like this got say F U hardcore fans because the hardcore fans are to small of group to keep something like on the air.Marketing to strength so that large group of people respond to largest or second largest character(wolvie or spidey) in marvel so that book stay alive or cartoon stay alive it makes sense

Maybe marvel should start calling stuff like like Excalibur and exiles.Wolverine and Excalibur or wolverine and exiles may then good books would not be getting canceled.Something your post remind me of fans of certain bands stop like bands because they are too mainsteam,it like they except the band not to try make money and stay poor.

[Fatguy]

This actually looks much better than I would've expected. Needs more Colossus though!

Most of them look good though, especially Rogue.

[Hi-Fi]

Most of them look good though, especially Rogue.
Oh, you big flirt!

[frog]

So, Hi-Fi, is Rogue a double agent or just gone bad girl again?

[Fatguy]

Oh, you big flirt!

LOL

She does look great though, I kinda miss the green tights and jacket. 90's Rogue was a badass :cool:

[rZi]

LOLOLOLOL Wolverine sounds so bad it actualy made me cringe, i pray this guy hasn't been cast permanetly.

[CmX]

Loved everything except the horrible soundtrack.

[Beast]

So, Hi-Fi, is Rogue a double agent or just gone bad girl again?
Watch it not really be Rogue, but Mystique. And Rogue's been captured. ;)

[La Fea]

You need to take a marketing class.It is almost stupid not take advantage of big seller,It is like coke making a new drink and calling Lemon and not Coke Lemon.You market brands and wolverine is a brand and stuff like this got say F U hardcore fans because the hardcore fans are to small of group to keep something like on the air.Marketing to strength so that large group of people respond to largest or second largest character(wolvie or spidey) in marvel so that book stay alive or cartoon stay alive it makes sense

Maybe marvel should start calling stuff like like Excalibur and exiles.Wolverine and Excalibur or wolverine and exiles may then good books would not be getting canceled.Something your post remind me of fans of certain bands stop like bands because they are too mainsteam,it like they except the band not to try make money and stay poor.

Eh, I think it might matter a lot more to comic buyers, but I think every Wolverine fan out there instantly knows he's going to be in an X-Men t.v. series and will likely check it out. I'd say there's about 2 dumb nuts out there that know who James Logan Howlett-Manchester is but not who the X-Men are, so I don't really think your "lemon" and "Lemon Coke" analogy stands.

Its just a silly name and hopefully what matters most (the content) will triumph.

[Fatguy]

Watch it not really be Rogue, but Mystique. And Rogue's been captured. ;)

It will be revealed the real Rogue's actually in a coma, for the entirety of the series ;)

[La Fea]

This actually looks much better than I would've expected. Needs more Colossus though!

Most of them look good though, especially Rogue.

I don't like how her white streaks are see-through though.

Its weird!

Loved everything except the horrible soundtrack.

It was kind of weird, but I guess I'm not used to hearing songs I've heard before as a background to a cartoon series.

[frog]

It will be revealed the real Rogue's actually in a coma, for the entirety of the series ;)

Oh dear. Brian M. has already been bummed out, now Hi-Fi too?

[Luck911]

Eh, I think it might matter a lot more to comic buyers, but I think every Wolverine fan out there instantly knows he's going to be in an X-Men t.v. series and will likely check it out. I'd say there's about 2 dumb nuts out there that know who James Logan Howlett-Manchester is but not who the X-Men are, so I don't really think your "lemon" and "Lemon Coke" analogy stands.

Its just a silly name and hopefully what matters most (the content) will triumph.

Comic buyers will buy/watch regardless of what is called, The Non comic fan is more than like to respond to name that they recognize and will watch the show becuase of that and wolverine is bigger name than the x-men.The name is attempt at make the show as successful as possible,i can only respect that.

[rwsmith]

I don't see what the big deal is about the name anyway. If they came out with a cartoon that was called "Cyclops and the X-men" or "Storm and the X-men," I would still be happy so long as my favorites were in it.

Wolverine is the most popular X-man and he has a movie coming out next summer, so Marvel decided to capitalize on that and put his name in the title. Big deal. It won't be all about him by the looks of it, so who gives a $#!t what they call it?

[La Fea]

Comic buyers will buy/watch regardless of what is called, The Non comic fan is more than like to respond to name that they recognize and will watch the show becuase of that and wolverine is bigger name than the x-men.The name is attempt at make the show as successful as possible,i can only respect that.

Wolverine really hasn't been in much outside of comics without the X-Men. I'd say they're equally recognizable, at least not anywhere near the "Lemon" and "Lemon Coke" comparison.

I don't see what the big deal is about the name anyway. If they came out with a cartoon that was called "Cyclops and the X-men" or "Storm and the X-men," I would still be happy so long as my favorites were in it.

Wolverine is the most popular X-man and he has a movie coming out next summer, so Marvel decided to capitalize on that and put his name in the title. Big deal. It won't be all about him by the looks of it, so who gives a $#!t what they call it?

That too.

I'm so looking forward to it centering on Wolverine reforming the X-Men.

Hell, I'd love to see him do it in the comics, too.

[Mr.EZ]

LOLOLOLOL Wolverine sounds so bad it actualy made me cringe, i pray this guy hasn't been cast permanetly.

That's Steve Blum, he's been doing Wolverine's voice in Marvel video games for years. X-Men Legends 1 & 2 as well as Ultimate Alliance. Most fans like his rendition enough that they gave him the job for the show.

[rwsmith]

I'm so looking forward to it centering on Wolverine reforming the X-Men.

Hell, I'd love to see him do it in the comics, too.

Well, IMO if Wolverine were to take over leadership of the X-men in the comics he would have to leave the New Avengers and disband X-Force. As it stands now, I can see how he might have time to have his solo adventures and do his New Avengers stuff while still leading X-Force on black ops missions and doing X-men stuff in-between. But for him to be the X-men's leader would require him to be available pretty much at all times. And I don't really want to see Logan off the New Avengers and X-Force, so I say let Cyke continue to be the X-men's head honcho in the comics.

[spiderman_rj]

ugh,that show is unwatchble !! who liked xmallville oxcmen (x evolution) will problably like it though.at least it looks like there will be action.

[La Fea]

Well, IMO if Wolverine were to take over leadership of the X-men in the comics he would have to leave the New Avengers and disband X-Force. As it stands now, I can see how he might have time to have his solo adventures and do his New Avengers stuff while still leading X-Force on black ops missions and doing X-men stuff in-between. But for him to be the X-men's leader would require him to be available pretty much at all times. And I don't really want to see Logan off the New Avengers and X-Force, so I say let Cyke continue to be the X-men's head honcho in the comics.

I definitely don't think he'd have to leave the New Avengers. I think it'll be interesting to have him with the NA, essentially on the run, and also with the X-Men, who have a straining immunity from registration.

[ZT4]

Gotta love Boozehound Summers developing a third testicle big enough to blow Logan out of his apartment.

Foo Fighters music? Trying to be a trite commercial there...

[KittyPryde]

Looks decent enough to me! Glad to see Rogue get some center-props (if it can't be Kitty).

[ZT4]

This looks awesome. I actually think Wolverine bringing the X-Men back together seems really great.

I have to say, it really seems like a continuation of X-Men Evolution from the anmation (though I heard its not)..

It's fairly ambigious even if it isnt. It jumps over the future vision" Charles had in Evolution's finale, so it could fit anywhere after it. The style being partially Evo and even including Greg's involvement might trick some avid fans...

If you're not in the loop like we are, you could easily mistake it as a sequel to Evolution...

[Toboe]

You need to take a marketing class.It is almost stupid not take advantage of big seller,It is like coke making a new drink and calling Lemon and not Coke Lemon.You market brands and wolverine is a brand and stuff like this got say F U hardcore fans because the hardcore fans are to small of group to keep something like on the air.Marketing to strength so that large group of people respond to largest or second largest character(wolvie or spidey) in marvel so that book stay alive or cartoon stay alive it makes sense

Maybe marvel should start calling stuff like like Excalibur and exiles.Wolverine and Excalibur or wolverine and exiles may then good books would not be getting canceled.Something your post remind me of fans of certain bands stop like bands because they are too mainsteam,it like they except the band not to try make money and stay poor.

I don't disagree, it's just that it results in a stupid sounding name. Besides, for most people out there, Wolverine IS the X-Men thanks to the movies and so on, so it ends up being kind of redundant as well. But anyway, I guess it makes sense if he's the one putting them together again and all that, and it might end up growing on me like Young Avengers did, as it also sounded awful to begin with.

It also doesn't sound as bad and makes more sense than Wolverine First Class, though.

In the end what matters is the content, which seems fine so far. But the title leaves one with a bad first impression.

[Luck911]

Wolverine really hasn't been in much outside of comics without the X-Men. I'd say they're equally recognizable, at least not anywhere near the "Lemon" and "Lemon Coke" comparison.

.

Wolverine star in his own comic,Wolverine is bigger part pop culture a couple examples

1.Wolverine Halloween costumes
2.Wolverine toy claws
3.Wolverine video games

They are couple more stuff like mentioning in tv shows and floats in parades.Wolverine has whole side to him that doesn't include the x-men.
They can't be equal recognizable if wolverine has more things going while part of the xmen that like saying Destiny child is a recoginizable as Beyonce she is doing solo stuff.My point was coke made a new flavor what would sell more if was named "Lemon" alone or if it is was name "Coke Lemon"?

The remains wolverine is marketing force his appearances in 5 or 6 comics regularly,him being the star of his own movie back this up statement .You always market to your strong point.It is like putting Will Smith in movie and don't using him marketing.In fact i have seen couple movies market based on star actor who only show ups like only in 5 minutes of the movie.You sell your star even if they are not the star.

[Beast]

Wolverine star in his own comic,Wolverine is bigger part pop culture a couple examples

1.Wolverine Halloween costumes
2.Wolverine toy claws
3.Wolverine video games

They are couple more stuff like mentioning in tv shows and floats in parades. Wolverine has whole side to him that doesn't include the x-men.
They can't be equal recognizable if wolverine has more things going while part of the xmen that like saying Destiny child is a recoginizable as Beyonce she is doing solo stuff.My point was coke made a new flavor what would sell more if was named "Lemon" alone or if it is was name "Coke Lemon"?

The remains wolverine is marketing force his appearances in 5 or 6 comics regularly,him being the star of his own movie back this up statement .You always market to your strong point.It is like putting Will Smith in movie and don't using him marketing.In fact i have seen couple movies market based on star actor who only show ups like only in 5 minutes of the movie.You sell your star even if they are not the star.
http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/175667/300.jpg

So does Beast. He's had a lot of merchandise the last 2 years. But it hardly proves anything. ;)

[Fatguy]

http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/175667/300.jpg

So does Beast. He's had a lot of merchandise the last 2 years. But it hardly proves anything. ;)

LOL He looks like he's about to give his invisible girlfriend a good spanking.

[ExodusCloak]

http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/175667/300.jpg

So does Beast. He's had a lot of merchandise the last 2 years. But it hardly proves anything. ;)

Do you get Beast underwear though?

[Brand]

Do you get Beast underwear though?

Do you really want to see that picture? :p

[Toboe]

They can't be equal recognizable if wolverine has more things going while part of the xmen that like saying Destiny child is a recoginizable as Beyonce she is doing solo stuff.

They should get renamed as Beyoncé and the Destiny's Child!

[Pach!]

They should get renamed as Beyoncé and the Destiny's Child!
or Diana Ross and the Supremes!

[mr2core]

Why is this video not loading for me:confused:

Edit, it took like 10 mins to load, but I got it.

This looks really exciting, cant wait!!

[Maestro]

Here is a youtube link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GbR_8-jWwQ

[Brand]

Finally managed to see the clip, and it was about as bad as I'd expected. This will definitely be one series that I'll pass. All of the Wolverine adulation would be bad enough, but then they had to kill Jean and there's little reason to think Cyke will have much of a role in the show other than wallpaper, if he even earns that much. :evilangry

[Beast]

Here is a youtube link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GbR_8-jWwQ
Awesome. Thanks. Nice to have a larger version! :D

[Beast]

Finally managed to see the clip, and it was about as bad as I'd expected. This will definitely be one series that I'll pass. All of the Wolverine adulation would be bad enough, but then they had to kill Jean and there's little reason to think Cyke will have much of a role in the show other than wallpaper, if he even earns that much. :evilangry
Other that Scott being prominantly featured in the clip and on the promo poster?

[Affinity]

HUSH to all you hataz, we're lucky we're even GETTING a cartoon.

I look forward to it. Animation will get a little used to, but Marvel needs to spend 1/4 of it's 2008 budget to steal Bruce Timm.

Edit; LOVE Storm's hair. Fab.

[TheAmazingSpidey]

Whoa. This looks amazing.

I'm excited for this!

[Beast]

Heh. Thank god someone posted that larger version of the trailer. I finally realized that Beast's wearing pants and a vest. From the promo poster and such, it looked like he was wearing some funky costume that for some stupid reason didn't cover his chest. But you can see it flapping seperatly when he catches Angel. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/BeastVest.jpg

[lockerogue]

I'm really excited about this.

[deadsmurf]

I'm pretty excited.
I thought it might be dumb, but it looks very good.

Kinda has an X-men: Divided we stand vibe.

[Luck911]

Heh. Thank god someone posted that larger version of the trailer. I finally realized that Beast's wearing pants and a vest. From the promo poster and such, it looked like he was wearing some funky costume that for some stupid reason didn't cover his chest. But you can see it flapping seperatly when he catches Angel. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/BeastVest.jpg

At least it is better than Cyclops's Mr gadget trench coat

[ZT4]

I'm pretty excited.
I thought it might be dumb, but it looks very good.

Kinda has an X-men: Divided we stand vibe.

There's this whole "chicken before the egg" thing here, as the show was being developed as the ideas for the current direction of the comics were being prepared

[Beast]

At least it is better than Cyclops's Mr gadget trench coat
Scott looks hawt in his costume with a trenchcoat. :D

[Kid Icarus]

That trailer got me really excited
it feels so epic

[pryde15]

Go Kitty! Phasing a helicopter through a building is hardcore :D

Poor Jean :(

This looks really good, can't wait for it to come out!

[Mr.EZ]

Thanks for the bigger vid link!

The lighting still seems pretty dark in spots, but overall I'm pretty excited by this. Seeing Domino is a nice change of pace. Quicksilver running the Brotherhood should've happened years ago in the comics.

I even like Avalanche's leatherman from The Village People mustache.

[cyko]

wow it looks actually better than i expected it to be.

It seems to be a more mature take on the X-men than X-evo was. I think the concept has potential and could appeal to older viewers.

The animation..........well the it`s the typical style today but Wolvies beard looks just awful

and why....why do they have to make Wolverine tall?

[cyko]

Go Kitty! Phasing a helicopter through a building is hardcore :D

Poor Jean :(

This looks really good, can't wait for it to come out!

:D Jean is propably going to be back from the dead by the second season?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

At least it is better than Cyclops's Mr gadget trench coat

The trenchcoat pwns.

EMOCLOPS!!!! :D

[frog]

http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/175667/300.jpg

So does Beast. He's had a lot of merchandise the last 2 years. But it hardly proves anything. ;)

As a Beast fan, I have to say that is scary.

Very scary.

[frog]

Finally managed to see the clip, and it was about as bad as I'd expected. This will definitely be one series that I'll pass. All of the Wolverine adulation would be bad enough, but then they had to kill Jean and there's little reason to think Cyke will have much of a role in the show other than wallpaper, if he even earns that much. :evilangry

Cyclops is going to show up and blast Wolverine through a wall each time he gets too big for his britches.

Which means a whole lot of blasting.

[Slung]

Go Kitty! Phasing a helicopter through a building is hardcore :D

Poor Jean :(
Where the heck is she?? So sad.

[Beast]

:D Jean is propably going to be back from the dead by the second season?
My guess is that neither of them are really dead. Probably abducted during the attack.

So it's either going to be the Shi'ar or Apocalypse. I'd rather it be the Shi'ar.

Sick of Apocalypse in the comics. But they handled him well in Evo.

[Beast]

As a Beast fan, I have to say that is scary.

Very scary.
I have the adult mask. It's actually pretty cool. :D

[Pach!]

I have the adult mask. It's actually pretty cool. :D

LOL.

That is also scary.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Where the heck is she??

Deader than Kitty Pryde. :eek:

[Jake V]

I like how Wolverine swings his claws around like crazy, yet manages to cut absolutely nothing.

Ah, cartoons.

[La Fea]

LOL.

That is also scary.

How rude LOL.

[Beast]

LOL.

That is also scary.
Bah, it's cool.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/BeastMask.jpg

[frog]

You can always tell when Cyclops is going through an emo time. He starts only shaving every other day.

[Fatguy]

Bah, it's cool.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/BeastMask.jpg

LOL

It is kinda cool, but MAN, that's the creepiest Beast face I have ever seen :eek:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Reiterating that Emoclops pwnz.

[frog]

Bah, it's cool.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/BeastMask.jpg

Psychotic!

[Beast]

LOL

It is kinda cool, but MAN, that's the creepiest Beast face I have ever seen :eek:
I like everything but the exaggerated mouth. But the same thing happens with Chewbacca masks.

They always seem to sculpt them with their fangs bared, which is uncommon at best to see on the character.

[CaptainCanada]

So Professor X and Jean are "dead"; also notice the lack of Magneto during all the Brotherhood's activities; did whatever happened to them happen to him too?

I like the animation (apart from Rogue's transparent bangs).

Michael Ironside (DCAU Darkseid) as the evil human leader.

The campaign to cement Scott and Emma as the X-Men's power-couple enters the next phase with this cartoon.:evilsmile

[frog]

Speaking of Emma, did she actually show up anywhere in the trailer?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

The campaign to cement Scott and Emma as the X-Men's power-couple enters the next phase with this cartoon.:evilsmile

No need to say I kinda approve, eh? :D

I gotta say, though, the first scene of them interacting and her being a b**ch for kicks has the potential to be a howler since Emoclops has one hell of a reason to tell her to f**k off. :eek:

[La Fea]

Wolverine star in his own comic,Wolverine is bigger part pop culture a couple examples

1.Wolverine Halloween costumes
2.Wolverine toy claws
3.Wolverine video games

They are couple more stuff like mentioning in tv shows and floats in parades.Wolverine has whole side to him that doesn't include the x-men.
They can't be equal recognizable if wolverine has more things going while part of the xmen that like saying Destiny child is a recoginizable as Beyonce she is doing solo stuff.My point was coke made a new flavor what would sell more if was named "Lemon" alone or if it is was name "Coke Lemon"?

The remains wolverine is marketing force his appearances in 5 or 6 comics regularly,him being the star of his own movie back this up statement .You always market to your strong point.It is like putting Will Smith in movie and don't using him marketing.In fact i have seen couple movies market based on star actor who only show ups like only in 5 minutes of the movie.You sell your star even if they are not the star.

I think your exaggerating just a tad. The X-Men are hardly invisible little Michelle Williams or Kelly Rowlands (sorry girls!) with their own tv shows, video games, and movies.

I think any fan of Wolverine's knows the X-Men, but on that I don't think we'll get anywhere. So like...fine. You win.

My guess is that neither of them are really dead. Probably abducted during the attack.

So it's either going to be the Shi'ar or Apocalypse. I'd rather it be the Shi'ar.

Sick of Apocalypse in the comics. But they handled him well in Evo.

I really wouldn't mind them not including either (though out of sympathy I'd want to include Jean Grey since she is dead in the comics). I'd like to see them playing with things on a broader scale like toying with the cast a bit more and using less of the usual suspects and more of the less common ones with a good enough balance that there's still recognizability.

Despite what some people say, I think its cool they're exposing loser characters (again, sorry!) like Domino and Boom Boom to a wider audience. Hopefully Sam can be an actual X-Man in this one and start gaining momentum.

I have an ounce of hope they'd even feature some Generation X/New X-Men and X-Factor Investigations people too like they did the New Mutants and various other comicbook relevant cameos.

[cyko]

Speaking of Emma, did she actually show up anywhere in the trailer?

I didn`t see her. She propably going to appear in the middle of the first season.
and then when Jean comes back from the dead she is going to fry her


I just hope they don`t make her too nice.

[Beast]

Speaking of Emma, did she actually show up anywhere in the trailer?
No. From what little I've heard so far... is that Emma doesn't play a prominant role.

[Slung]

I didn`t see her. She propably going to appear in the middle of the first season.
and then when Jean comes back from the dead she is going to fry her


I just hope they don`t make her too nice.

You know she's going to be Jean v.2 in the cartoon. Only less interesting. The more Emma is pushed as Cyclops paramour, the less catty she'll be - until she's just a blonde hair, blue eyed Jean Grey.

[Jake V]

You know she's going to be Jean v.2 in the cartoon. Only less interesting. The more Emma is pushed as Cyclops paramour, the less catty she'll be - until she's just a blonde hair, blue eyed Jean Grey.

With better dialogue.

[CaptainCanada]

You know she's going to be Jean v.2 in the cartoon. Only less interesting. The more Emma is pushed as Cyclops paramour, the less catty she'll be - until she's just a blonde hair, blue eyed Jean Grey.
If they were planning that, they'd probably just go with Jean.

[Slung]

With better dialogue.

Well, anything's better than TAS Jean. That was painful. All of the Jean fans had to cringe through years of that mess. If Emma makes out anything like that, she's screwed.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You know she's going to be Jean v.2 in the cartoon. Only less interesting. The more Emma is pushed as Cyclops paramour, the less catty she'll be - until she's just a blonde hair, blue eyed Jean Grey.

You don't know that yet. I mean, getting Red offed right off the bat wasn't even part of your "Emma's 12 steps to f**k up Jean's life or something". So there. :D

They'll keep some of the snark. Otherwise, what's the point?

[cyko]

I have an ounce of hope they'd even feature some Generation X/New X-Men and X-Factor Investigations people too like they did the New Mutants and various other comicbook relevant cameos.

That would be cool, but I think it`s going to be more like Wolverine traveling through the world looking up former X-men to see if they want to join the X-men again.

[Brian M.]

That trailer looked great. I love it. Cyclopes looks good, least he and Jean were together for a while. Interesting plot.

[Slung]

That trailer looked great. I love it. Cyclopes looks good, least he and Jean were together for a while. Interesting plot.

For two minutes so they could revert to today's continuity. Yuck. How could they kill her off before the show even begins. LAME.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

For two minutes so they could revert to today's continuity. Yuck. How could they kill her off before the show even begins. LAME.

Look, her beau isn't kissing some other broad right by her tombstone. Kind of a step up.

Take the good with the bad. :D

[Slung]

Look, her beau isn't kissing some other right by her tombstone. Kind of a step up.

Take the good with the bad. :D

When Jean's dead, there is no good. All is darkness. Darkness...darkness.

[Beast]

For two minutes so they could revert to today's continuity. Yuck. How could they kill her off before the show even begins. LAME.
Cause that's part of the plot. Who says she's actually dead. I doubt both her and Xavier were atomized. ;)

Taking out the telepaths is pretty much the only way to give anyone a fighting chance. Look at the comics. :D

[La Fea]

That would be cool, but I think it`s going to be more like Wolverine traveling through the world looking up former X-men to see if they want to join the X-men again.

Well they're including Pyro and Domino, so I'm grasping at straws. :(

Happy for them and all but...they're so not now.

[cyko]

:D wouldn`t it have been more fun if Wolvie had found Cyke on a shrimp boat?

I want emo shrimp boat cyke!

[CaptainCanada]

What about emo artist Cyke from What If? Deadly Genesis?

[cyko]

What about emo artist Cyke from What If? Deadly Genesis?

Not bad either, but emo shrimp boat Cyke is a classic.

It inspired the author of Forrest Gump to write the novel (or at least part of it. Propably)

[Novaya Havoc]

They needed more EMMA FROST in that trailer.

And I demand an entire plot around Disco!Dazzler and her movie!

That would be ULTRA FAB.

Looks good though!

[ZT4]

For two minutes so they could revert to today's continuity. Yuck. How could they kill her off before the show even begins. LAME.

Jean is pretty much one-note these days anyway. Which is...oh...lamer.

[CyberHubbs]

...Eh. I can't believe I'm not excited. Might give it a try, though. Not fond of Wolverine's voice.

And does he give the the Wilhelm Scream at one point?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

They needed more EMMA FROST in that trailer.

There was any?


And I demand an entire plot around Disco!Dazzler and her movie!

That would be ULTRA FAB.

Cyke totally needs this to be his first assignment back on the job if just for the hilarious irony.

Cyke: Decided I'd give saving the world another shot and here I am on a f****n movie set. I'm gonna kill Warren.

[DeniseXfrost]

Rogue and kitty are fierce, esp Rogue (I love her voice). But I want to see Ems I need to bloody hear her voice.
No. From what little I've heard so far... is that Emma doesn't play a prominant role.
Then it's kinda stupid to put her in the promotional poster.

[Novaya Havoc]

Bah, it's cool.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/BeastMask.jpg

!

That ain't got nothing on THIS:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/misc/lizday_8-1.jpg

PH33R the Dazzalanche, bitches.

FEAR IT.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Then it's kinda stupid to put her in the promotional poster.

Wolvie's just starting to get the team back together. Emma ain't gonna be a main player from the get-go.

Same for Cyke. He'll probably mope in that room 'til a third of the season. Not necessarily a bad thing, eh. EMOCLOPS!!! :D

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

PH33R the Dazzalanche, bitches.

FEAR IT.

Ho' does look fierce.

[lockerogue]

I like the bitch (Emma Frost) but she can wait a few episodes before appearing. I think the trailer is pilot episodes. Because I remember reading that the pilot is going to be 3 episodes long. Rogue stint with the Brotherhood will probably lead to her gainiing her Ms. Marvel powers.

[DeniseXfrost]

Well I just want to see the bitch in the trailer not wanting her appear in the pilot, that would be akward.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well I just want to see the bitch in the trailer not wanting her appear in the pilot, that would be akward.

To be fair, it would be rather optimistic (good call, eh) to expect more than some short cryptic intro the pilot's last minutes. Although it could work, I guess.

[TheAmazingSpidey]

Is there a download link anywhere? I want to make a music video.

Anyone know? :)

[DeniseXfrost]

To be fair, it would be rather optimistic (good call, eh) to expect more than some short cryptic intro the pilot's last minutes. Although it could work, I guess.
It could work, indeed. I hope she has both her power.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

As *if* they wouldn't play the diamond card.

[Matthew K.]

When Jean's dead, there is no good. All is darkness. Darkness...darkness.

I just take it that she "disappeared,"...not death.
!

That ain't got nothing on THIS:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/misc/lizday_8-1.jpg

PH33R the Dazzalanche, bitches.

FEAR IT.
Oh man, I don't even want to know where you found that Ben...haha.

[DeniseXfrost]

As *if* they wouldn't play the diamond card.
Don't be too sure :)

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Don't be too sure :)

Well, it's the more visual/cinematic of her two powers and the whole thing happens to be, huh, a cartoon. :D

I'm willing to bet 5 'told you so'.

[DeniseXfrost]

Ahh good thing they don't have to worry about sepcial effect :D Bring on the diamond tits!

[ElementalKing]

This is going to be so much better than X-Men: Evolution and the 90s cartoon. I can't wait.

From the trailer I saw, Cyclops, Wolverine, Beast, Storm (with her poofy hair), Rogue, Avalanche, Blob, Quicksilver, Domino, Pyro, Cannonball (I think), Jean Grey, Xavier, Shadowcat, Iceman, Angel, and perhaps Graydon Creed.

I saw absolutely no Emma Frost. This looks pretty awesome. I pretty much think that Rogue just has her absorption powers since she was seen running several times where she could've flown instead.

I absolutely want Mystique, Magneto, Sabertooth, and Juggernaut. Maybe, even a bit of Dazzler.

[CmX]

They needed more EMMA FROST in that trailer.

And I demand an entire plot around Disco!Dazzler and her movie!

That would be ULTRA FAB.

Looks good though!

I don't think it would be right to introduce or feature Dazz as a guest if it didn't revolve around her.

It'd be neat if the younger mutants went to a concert of hers and it was attacked by like anti-mutant terrorists or something.

[Novaya Havoc]

Dazzler should release her MOVIE because Senator Kelly is a BIGOT and then the X-Men are like OMGWTF?! and then Dazzler's like BITCH PLZ don't TALK!!! and then it's like aIAIIiiIEEeeE! she's ATTACKED!!! and then the X-Men are like OMG DAZZLER! and then she rollerskates to VICTORIOUS!

That would be the best series finale ever.

[tunasammiches]

Cyclops is going to show up and blast Wolverine through a wall each time he gets too big for his britches.

Which means a whole lot of blasting.

Hot...:eek:

[podmark]

Saw the trailer and it looks sweet. Can't wait for this.

[jester1436]

Dazzler should release her MOVIE because Senator Kelly is a BIGOT and then the X-Men are like OMGWTF?! and then Dazzler's like BITCH PLZ don't TALK!!! and then it's like aIAIIiiIEEeeE! she's ATTACKED!!! and then the X-Men are like OMG DAZZLER! and then she rollerskates to VICTORIOUS!

That would be the best series finale ever.

That totally sounds the a backdoor pilot for "The Ferocious Dazzler: The All-New Disco Animated Disco Adventures."

[Xplicit Content]

I don't believe for a second that Prof. and Jean are dead...they were just "poofed" away. No bodies = They're patiently awaiting their return as the cliffhanger of season 1.

Looks really good though.

[skylight]

Yeah we all know that Prof X and Jean Grey will be coming back. I can't wait for this

[Maestro]

One of the cool things about the 90's TV series was that it used very recently created characters like Gambit and Cable and automatically made them popular X-Men. They should integrate new characters again, like X-23, Cassandra Nova, and the Stepford Cuckoos.

And Vulcan :D

[Greg Anderson]

The only way I would have liked that trailer anymore was if Bishop, Emma, or Jaime were there.

[Desmodus]

The preview looks good. Though i have two points;

1. Its a shame this isn't closer to the canon source. Wolverine being the "leader" of the X-men just doesn't ring true. Especially when Scott, Ororo and Emma are present. Leadership is part of their personality.

2. I can distinguish strong regional accents form North American but does any Canadian sound like Wolverine does in the preview?

[steve2275]

http://www.cyber-animation.com/images/wolverine_visuel2.jpg
COLOSSUS would be perfect behind wolverine

[MakeshiftHero]

The preview looks good. Though i have two points;

1. Its a shame this isn't closer to the canon source. Wolverine being the "leader" of the X-men just doesn't ring true. Especially when Scott, Ororo and Emma are present. Leadership is part of their personality.

2. I can distinguish strong regional accents form North American but does any Canadian sound like Wolverine does in the preview?

It's just to help hype Wolverine and get his name out for his upcoming solo movie.

Same thing with the upcoming Iron Man and Hulk cartoons. Just like they did with the FF cartoons when the movies came out.

Yeah I think it looks pretty good. I'd just like to know the background for the show or if there is any.

And it needs Multiple Man, Pete Wisdom, Chamber and Cannonball. Then it would be great. But no Madrox as a bad guy which is what happens to him just about everytime it's not in the 616.

[Greg Anderson]

The preview looks good. Though i have two points;

1. Its a shame this isn't closer to the canon source. Wolverine being the "leader" of the X-men just doesn't ring true. Especially when Scott, Ororo and Emma are present. Leadership is part of their personality.

2. I can distinguish strong regional accents form North American but does any Canadian sound like Wolverine does in the preview?

I really don't think Logan is going to be seen as the leader. The X-Men have broken up and it seems that Logan is simply tracking them all down to bring them back together in their time of need. I've a feeling that there's going to be a bad ass scene when the X-Men are getting their butts kicked and Cyclops appears out of nowhere with a lovely optic blast just when all hope is lost and takes over his role as X-Men leader in all his bad-assery. :cool:

[Desmodus]

It's just to help hype Wolverine and get his name out for his upcoming solo movie.

Same thing with the upcoming Iron Man and Hulk cartoons. Just like they did with the FF cartoons when the movies came out.

Yeah I think it looks pretty good. I'd just like to know the background for the show or if there is any.

And it needs Multiple Man, Cannonball and then it would be great. But no Madrox as a bad guy which is what happens to him just about everytime it's not in the 616.

What would be cool is if they did a canon cartoon series between Wolverine movies...if there is going to be more.

then they could keep the hype bubbling and would add more depth to the movie/cartoon/celluloid character.

Of course, another thing that would be cool is it if had a Adults Only rating similar to the animated Spawn.

[Greg Anderson]

But no Madrox as a bad guy which is what happens to him just about everytime it's not in the 616.

When it comes to Jaime, I've enjoyed all his various versions. I cheer for him regardless of which side he appears on. :D

[Desmodus]

I really don't think Logan is going to be seen as the leader. The X-Men have broken up and it seems that Logan is simply tracking them all down to bring them back together in their time of need. I've a feeling that there's going to be a bad ass scene when the X-Men are getting their butts kicked and Cyclops appears out of nowhere with a lovely optic blast just when all hope is lost and takes over his role as X-Men leader in all his bad-assery. :cool:

And say that runs for 26 episodes, does the title change to "The X-men"?

[Greg Anderson]

And say that runs for 26 episodes, does the title change to "The X-men"?

What was once called "Superman and the Legion of Superheroes" is now known as "The Legion of Superheroes." So who knows for sure.

[Desmodus]

What was once called "Superman and the Legion of Superheroes" is now known as "The Legion of Superheroes." So who knows for sure.

Aye. Signs are good regardless.

[worstblogever]

I like the bitch (Emma Frost) but she can wait a few episodes before appearing. I think the trailer is pilot episodes. Because I remember reading that the pilot is going to be 3 episodes long. Rogue stint with the Brotherhood will probably lead to her gainiing her Ms. Marvel powers.

I thought Lilandra Neranami was "the bitch?" :D