Final Fantasy XIII...may be going Multiplatform...

[DrDoomX]

If this comes to be, this would be a major blow against the PS3...enough of my rambling...here is a link...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6167864.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;2

[Sparda]

Not much of a FF fan but I do see if this does happen (most likely for Squar/enix business sakes) Sony just has the final nail to thier coffin. I doubt Metal Gear series is going to save it.

[zeroEDGE]

Ouch... one of my main reasons of getting a ps3 in the future was because of the Final Fantasy series and MGS, I'm still eventually going to get one but wow, it's crazy to see all these playstation exclusives going multiplatform.

[SAMAS]

On the bright side, this continuing trend may force Sony to drop the price of the PS3.

[Jmacq1]

Yep, if FF and/or MGS goes multiplatform (absolutely if both do), I don't think Sony has any choice -but- to significantly drop the price of their hardware if they want to remain competitive as a gaming console. Otherwise they may as well start changing their marketing to "Hey, we may not have any good games that you can't get on less expensive systems, but we do have the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market!"

Of course, it's rapidly becoming a no-win situation for Sony. Lowering the price of the hardware makes them take a loss, and having less exclusives makes them take even more losses.

In all truth, if FF and MGS do go multiplatform, it very well may be all but the death knell for PS3. And a serious blow to Sony as a company. I wonder if they even have enough money to effectively bribe Konami or Square to "stay exclusive" when they'll be publishing to the smallest (by a large margin) installed fanbase of the three next-gen consoles?

[Xero Kaiser]

Aren't there multiple FF13 games? Getting all of them as exclusive's probably won't be cheap

[SAMAS]

Yep, if FF and/or MGS goes multiplatform (absolutely if both do), I don't think Sony has any choice -but- to significantly drop the price of their hardware if they want to remain competitive as a gaming console. Otherwise they may as well start changing their marketing to "Hey, we may not have any good games that you can't get on less expensive systems, but we do have the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market!"

Of course, it's rapidly becoming a no-win situation for Sony. Lowering the price of the hardware makes them take a loss, and having less exclusives makes them take even more losses.

In all truth, if FF and MGS do go multiplatform, it very well may be all but the death knell for PS3. And a serious blow to Sony as a company. I wonder if they even have enough money to effectively bribe Konami or Square to "stay exclusive" when they'll be publishing to the smallest (by a large margin) installed fanbase of the three next-gen consoles?

Well, if SCEA goes under(I doubt it, but...), I hope someone good picks up the Santa Monica branch(God of War).

[Black Atom]

Analysts are already predicting a $100 price drop on the PS3 for the holiday season. Still, the only reason to buy the damned thing at this point is brand loyalty, as Blu-Ray continues to be a non-issue.

But it won't take much to coax developers away from PS3 exclusivity, considering they only need to be convinced that they'll make more going multi-platform. Considering development costs on the PS3 and it's crappy sales, that's not terribly difficult.

[Jmacq1]

The sad thing is that even with a $100 dollar price drop the "premium" PS3 will still be the most expensive console on the market.

I'd say they have to get their price equal or under the 360 to have a truly strong chance at closing the gap. As you say, Blu-Ray clearly just isn't enough to coax the buyers.

[Sparda]

If sony really wanna salvage themselves and not end up like Sega, it's best they start making PS3's without the Blue-Ray's. Do what Microsoft does, have a regular PS3 without the HD and a premium one for competitions sake's but that move would cost sony's millions. They have alot of potential and I don't want to see them end up like Sega.

[Xero Kaiser]

Is that even an option at this point? Aren't PS3 games on Blu-Ray discs as well? No Blu-Ray player = no PS3 games.

Granted, I've paid no attention to anything regarding blu-ray so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're stuck with it

[BlairH]

Is that even an option at this point? Aren't PS3 games on Blu-Ray discs as well? No Blu-Ray player = no PS3 games.

Granted, I've paid no attention to anything regarding blu-ray so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're stuck with it

You're right. All the games are on blu-ray media.

Sony are stuck with the format.

[Urusai Wrangler]

I think Sony WANTS to keep FF13 exclusive, the question is, can they afford to pony up that kind of cash while still losing money on every PS3 sold? Their shareholders can't be too pleased at the moment.

[Jmacq1]

I think Sony WANTS to keep FF13 exclusive, the question is, can they afford to pony up that kind of cash while still losing money on every PS3 sold? Their shareholders can't be too pleased at the moment.

Not to mention can they outbid Microsoft while operating under those same constraints?

They basically have to give Square/Enix enough cash to make up for the profits they'll lose by not including 360 and/or Wii to make it worth their while.

All Microsoft has to do comparatively is sweeten the pot a little bit on top of the additional profits they'll make going multiplatform and it's a win-win for Square/Enix.

Barring some serious further financial risk on Sony's part, I forsee FF XIII indeed going multiplatform. And all things being equal, I bet MGS4 won't be far behind, no matter what Kojima says. At worst it'll come out on PS3 first and then be on 360 about six months to a year later.

Of course if Microsoft really wanted a coup, they could try to get FF XIII to be exclusive to -them-. I think they actually accomplished that with Ace Combat 6, if I heard correctly? That's another (second-tier, but still) long-running Sony franchise that's jumping ship.

[founder81]

oh boy, I get to use a little knowledge I picked up in FFXI communities.

When Sony dropped support of the HardDrive capable PS2's, SquareEnix wasn't very pleased. It might be a small point, but its still an early sign of Square's exclusive to Sony waning.

[Black Atom]

Sony does have something working in their favor and that's how hated the X-Box is in Japan. Then again, 360 getting a FF might just change that.

[Jmacq1]

Yeah, by most indications it's not the system itself that's hated in Japan, it's the fact that the games that are available for the system cater far more to the American game players than the Japanese game players, so most Japanese gamers don't feel any reason to buy it (save for those that enjoy "American-Style" games). There just aren't enough of those ofttimes-quirky and (to American gamers) unusual titles that don't see any release in the US for them. Or even enough of the Japanese-developed games that -do- get ported over.

But Microsoft seems to be actively working to try to remedy this somewhat.

Case in point: When they bundled "Blue Dragon" with X-Box 360, it enjoyed the best sales X-Box (as a brand) has ever enjoyed in Japan. And yeah, scoring "Final Fantasy" or god forbid "Dragon Quest" would probably skyrocket those sales in Japan.

Like with most gamers, it's all about the games, not the hardware. If the games they want go to the hardware, the gamers will follow.

[DrDoomX]

Exactly, I am a strong follow of the Xbox community and aside from the Japanese bundle of Blue Dragon, the Xbox never did well, but we will see...Microsoft does have Sakaguchi behind them, and he is a legend in the industry so yea that may help...donot forget we got Lost Odyssey coming out later this year...

[Jared H.]

Hooo-boy... (http://www.ps3center.net/story-394.html)

[Gargus]

Final fantasy 13 is ps3 exclusive. http://www.ffxiii.com/

What has not been named as exclusive to ps3 is final fantasy 13 the crystal series which is a series of games under the title of 13 like fabula nova crystallis final fantasy XIII and another has a sur-name of haeresis.

Final fantasy 13 will be a franchise under the title of 13, it will be multiple games. But there will also be a true sequel called just 13 that will be and has been announced by square enix as being ps3 exclusive.

So really final fantasy 13 will be two different things. One will just be called FF13 on ps3 and the other is a series of games called FF13 fabula nova crystallis, FF13 haeresis and so on.

Infact the franchise FF13 is announced for ps3 and mobile phones so far. So Im guessing they will be hitting all the systems with a game. So its not like square jumped ship on sony and giving up a exclusive, they are giving different systems different games.

This scan from a magazine interview has what Im saying, its on the left hand side in the middle.
http://reminem.net/mag/ff13/1/ff13%20002.jpg

Hell there is also going to be a final fantasy 13 versus game that is action oriented from the guys who did kingdom hearts 2. So technically thats 3 different FF13 games. This is confusing me. Small blurb on it here http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/

You guys need to control yourselves when it comes to rumors really. Your feeding the idiot machine by not knowing what your talking about. You read what someone else says and just run with it, or you half read something and run off spouting stuff you dont know is true. I know you just cant wait to run out and post something you think is earth shattering but next time stop, think and maybe read a little yourself instead of listening to what some dingleberry on blog writes. This is the internet, 60% of what you read is bullcrap.

Its like wikipedia, its not all true, its not a encylopedia, its not fact. The problem with it is its community driven. Meaning I can personally add content to it, and I have a time or two.

I know your all real anxious to drive ps3 in the ground cause you feel some need to decrive it, but do it with facts and not fiction.

[Xero Kaiser]

So really final fantasy 13 will be two different things. One will just be called FF13 on ps3 and the other is a series of games called FF13 fabula nova crystallis,

No. "Fabula Nova Crystallis" is what they're calling the FF13 project as a whole. Just like the FF12/FFT series goes by "Ivalice Alliance"

You guys need to control yourselves when it comes to rumors really. Your feeding the idiot machine by not knowing what your talking about. You read what someone else says and just run with it, or you half read something and run off spouting stuff you dont know is true. I know you just cant wait to run out and post something you think is earth shattering but next time stop, think and maybe read a little yourself instead of listening to what some dingleberry on blog writes. This is the internet, 60% of what you read is bullcrap.

Its like wikipedia, its not all true, its not a encylopedia, its not fact. The problem with it is its community driven. Meaning I can personally add content to it, and I have a time or two.

I know your all real anxious to drive ps3 in the ground cause you feel some need to decrive it, but do it with facts and not fiction.

...what the hell are you even talking about? Everytime you post you go off on some goofy ass rant.

Anyway, there are six FF13 titles so far and some of them are going to go multiplatform. They haven't announced which games are going to other platforms, but it's happening...so yeah

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=7700

There....facts, not fiction

[Urusai Wrangler]

I don't care what any website says, official or not...the simple truth of it is if Sony can't get at least as many PS3s in homes as 360s by the time FF13 releases, I'd look for a multiplatform release. Corporate loyalties change with every breeze that flutters through the finance reports, and exclusive games are ALWAYS exclusive until the moment they aren't.

[cactusmaac]

It was very unlikely for FF13 to have gone exclusive to the XBox since the Japanese 360 base is so low.

[founder81]

None of the provided articles have used the word "exclusive" just alot of "FF13 on ps3."

But wow, FF13 will be a total of 6 games. That sounds good at first, but if SE is spreading itself that thin, I wonder at the quality of the titles.

[Titan76]

SIX games!:eek: WHY?:confused:

Whatever happen to just doing one and keep things simple. I for one am not buying all six, I just want the main one and that's it for me.

[Alex]

None of the provided articles have used the word "exclusive" just alot of "FF13 on ps3."

But wow, FF13 will be a total of 6 games. That sounds good at first, but if SE is spreading itself that thin, I wonder at the quality of the titles.

http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/dirgeofcerberus.jpg


The cut scenes will look awesome, that's for sure.
The actual games? Eh, the cut scenes will look awesome!

[666MasterOfPuppets]

If this comes to be, this would be a major blow against the PS3...enough of my rambling...here is a link...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6167864.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;2

Ah, this is very interesting.

So that guy from MS was damn serious when he said he was going to go after FF, after getting DMC4 for the 360.

One more reson for me to NOT buying the PS3. At least not in the foreseeable future.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Yeah, by most indications it's not the system itself that's hated in Japan, it's the fact that the games that are available for the system cater far more to the American game players than the Japanese game players, so most Japanese gamers don't feel any reason to buy it (save for those that enjoy "American-Style" games). There just aren't enough of those ofttimes-quirky and (to American gamers) unusual titles that don't see any release in the US for them. Or even enough of the Japanese-developed games that -do- get ported over.

But Microsoft seems to be actively working to try to remedy this somewhat.

Case in point: When they bundled "Blue Dragon" with X-Box 360, it enjoyed the best sales X-Box (as a brand) has ever enjoyed in Japan. And yeah, scoring "Final Fantasy" or god forbid "Dragon Quest" would probably skyrocket those sales in Japan.

Like with most gamers, it's all about the games, not the hardware. If the games they want go to the hardware, the gamers will follow.

Dragon Quest would certainly be a MAJOR addition to the 360's list of games.

I think that it's not only the kind of games that exist for the MS console, but also the fact that the japanese don't trust too much in MS when it comes to games, because MS isn't as experienced as Sony and Nintendo are.

But this is something that is changing, I think. Slowly, yes. But changing.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Not to mention can they outbid Microsoft while operating under those same constraints?

They basically have to give Square/Enix enough cash to make up for the profits they'll lose by not including 360 and/or Wii to make it worth their while.

All Microsoft has to do comparatively is sweeten the pot a little bit on top of the additional profits they'll make going multiplatform and it's a win-win for Square/Enix.

Barring some serious further financial risk on Sony's part, I forsee FF XIII indeed going multiplatform. And all things being equal, I bet MGS4 won't be far behind, no matter what Kojima says. At worst it'll come out on PS3 first and then be on 360 about six months to a year later.

Of course if Microsoft really wanted a coup, they could try to get FF XIII to be exclusive to -them-. I think they actually accomplished that with Ace Combat 6, if I heard correctly? That's another (second-tier, but still) long-running Sony franchise that's jumping ship.

I was thinking exactly of what you said. Kojima has said that he's interested in developing for the 360, but a game different than MGS, because MGS belongs to Sony's console (or something like that).

However, money is a powerful thing.

[Xero Kaiser]

because MGS belongs to Sony's console (or something like that).

No it doesn't. It's there by Konami's choice, not because Sony owns any rights to the series

[Jmacq1]

I do have to say:

6 (proposed) FF XIII games

6 Gaming Platforms:
PS3
Wii
DS
PSP
360
PC (or perhaps more likely mobile phones as they've already worked on mobile phone games in the FF series)

Would Square spread itself that thin with one series? Would they risk ticking gamers off by forcing them to buy multiple systems to get "the whole story" (as it's already said that FF XIII and FF XIII "versus" are telling different parts of the same story)? How many people would buy all these systems to play all of them?

[666MasterOfPuppets]

No it doesn't. It's there by Konami's choice, not because Sony owns any rights to the series

I know. I meant that this is what Hideo Kojima feels about the game.

[Alex]

I know. I meant that this is what Hideo Kojima feels about the game.

Then why is there an MGS on gamecube and xbox?

[founder81]

How many people would buy all these systems to play all of them?

Maybe this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E402iVCvjUU&mode=related&search=

[SAMAS]

I know. I meant that this is what Hideo Kojima feels about the game. Or it could just be him stating the fact of how Konami feels about it.

[Jmacq1]

Haven't all the MGS games eventually gone multiplatform though? Even if it takes a year or two or three before they show up?

[Xero Kaiser]

I hope you all like FF13. If not....start getting used to it, anyway

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/23/final-fantasy-xiii-series-to-last-ten-years/

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Then why is there an MGS on gamecube and xbox?

Good question. And actually, Kojima didn't release MGS3 for XBOX not because he didn't like the system, but because "he didn't have time" to do it, or something like that.

Anyway, I just hope he decides to release MGS4 for the 360.

Or it could just be him stating the fact of how Konami feels about it.

Hmmm... That's not the impression I got when I read that interview, but you might be right.

Haven't all the MGS games eventually gone multiplatform though? Even if it takes a year or two or three before they show up?

Exactly. With the exception of MGS3, MGS and MGS2 have been released for several platforms, including PC.

[cactusmaac]

Dragon Quest 8 sucked ass.

A 20-year old RPG dressed up in new clothes.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Is that right?

Well, I played it for a little while and it didn't look so bad...

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I hope you all like FF13. If not....start getting used to it, anyway

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/23/final-fantasy-xiii-series-to-last-ten-years/

Hehehe... Agreed. Although they can perfectly release other FF-related games in that period.

[Xero Kaiser]

Dragon Quest 8 sucked ass.

A 20-year old RPG dressed up in new clothes.

I was so hyped to play that game after hearing about it. But I played the demo and the game was straight up trash.

While I'm at it....Lost Oddysey looks just as lame. Somebody tell these people that it isn't 1980 anymore

[Jmacq1]

Hehehe... Agreed. Although they can perfectly release other FF-related games in that period.

I suddenly have this image of Square "juggling" the various games between the systems.

Like XIII comes out for PS3, "Versus" for 360, then the next year they swap. Or something like that.

Surely they could keep that up for 10 years....

[founder81]

I hope you all like FF13. If not....start getting used to it, anyway

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/23/final-fantasy-xiii-series-to-last-ten-years/

That's a huge risk. At least for me, if I don't like the characters/story line, I lose interested in an RPG. If I happen not to like ff13, then there's nothing for me. At least with all the additional games/movie based on FF7, it was develop after SE had a popular game and characters.

I can go on ebay and find just about any item with a FF7 theme, i can't say the same is true for FF12.

Ever since Square became Square Enix, the quality has gone right down hill. I'm sketchy on the quality of the games as is, hearing this, it just makes me more skeptical.

[cactusmaac]

I got FF12 today.

Can't Square release an FF where the lead character isn't an effete wanker?

[Lightbend]

Deleted due to profanity - Perry

[Alex]

I got FF12 today.

Can't Square release an FF where the lead character isn't an effete wanker?

Japanese console rpg, it's either that, or he doesn't talk.

[cactusmaac]

I liked Locke in FF6, loved Cloud in FF7 and Chrono in Chrono Trigger. Tidus in FF10 initially annoyed me but I grew to like him.

Squall in FF8 was too grumpy and unlikeable for my tastes, Zidane in FF9 I wanted to toss out of a very tall building. This Vaan guy seems the same which is a pity because I liked the little of Reks I saw.

Jack Bauer in space in Mass Effect sounds more and more appealing.I think that will be my cue to get a 360.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I suddenly have this image of Square "juggling" the various games between the systems.

Like XIII comes out for PS3, "Versus" for 360, then the next year they swap. Or something like that.

Surely they could keep that up for 10 years....

Yeah. Since all the titles are related to each other, it wouldn't be wise for them to release one of the titles for one console only.

Plus, "juggling" the various games would be a smart move on their part. Thus, they'd know how much FF13 would be accepted by the console's userbase.

[Alex]

Jack Bauer in space in Mass Effect sounds more and more appealing.I think that will be my cue to get a 360.

He tortures at least one person on every planet.
Jack Bauer in space is so badass.

[BlairH]

Squall in FF8 was too grumpy and unlikeable for my tastes
I still maintain that Squall is the forerunner of the Emo race.

Jack Bauer in space in Mass Effect sounds more and more appealing.I think that will be my cue to get a 360.
I don't care how you justify it! You will tell me now: HOW DO I FIND THE NERVE GAS?????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Titan76]

I hope you all like FF13. If not....start getting used to it, anyway

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/23/final-fantasy-xiii-series-to-last-ten-years/
You know I'm not a business executive but I don't think its a good idea to say you are going to build a franchise on one game for 10 years before the GAME HAS EVEN COME OUT.

If FF13 sells very well and is a good story like wise with all its spin-offs then Square will look like they are genesis for doing this but if it flops then well.....I shouldn't have to say anything else.

Also does this mean we would have to wait 10 years until FF14 comes out? I wouldn't think so but then again I wouldn't think a company would do spin offs on a game that hasn't come out yet for 10 years.