The Children & the Acolytes somewhat share similar goals.. should they join forces?

[ProfeZZor X]

The Children's powers seem to be based on technology, and the Acolytes seem to utilize technology to advance their cause of superiority. Wouldn't it make sense for them to join forces as the ultimate foe against the X-Men and Humanity?

Both groups are willing to kill human and mutant kind to achieve their goal...

[Omega Alpha]

Have you missed the part about the Children trying to kill all mutantkind? I wouldn't say that they and the Acolytes share similar goals.

[The Lucky One]

The... X-Men have also been known to use technology. Quite a bit of it, actually. :confused:

I dunno, not to be offensive, but I don't really see it. Since the Children want to wipe out mutants as well, I can't imagine what could possibly compel them to team up with the Acolytes.

-D

[ProfeZZor X]

Double post... Read above post instead.

[Beast]

I don't see the Children really working with any mutants.

Not to mention... they have more in common with the Neo, frankly.

[ProfeZZor X]

Have you missed the part about the Children trying to kill all mutantkind? I wouldn't say that they and the Acolytes share similar goals.

I'm talking in terms of superiority.

... And yes, most of the small group of Children were defeated (and killed) by mutants. So if they can't beat them, why not join a group of mutants that share similar goals of superiority. The Acolytes are willing to kill other mutants to advance their cause...

[Anna]

And in the Children's eyes, the Acolytes are still mutants, and therefore are to be killed....

[Faded]

I'm talking in terms of superiority.

... And yes, most of the small group of Children were defeated (and killed) by mutants. So if they can't beat them, why not join a group of mutants that share similar goals of superiority. The Acolytes are willing to kill other mutants to advance their cause...

But their goals for superiority are for different types of people.

The Acolytes want superiority for mutants; the Children want it for their kind. Their goals would definitely conflict with each others'. If anything, I'd see them having a showdown.

[blinkinrogue]

i dont think magneto would want his acolytes to kill other mutants, especially ally themselves with the likes of the children.

He'd probably go... you guys suck at killing iceman, so get out of my face :D

[ProfeZZor X]

i dont think magneto would want his acolytes to kill other mutants, especially ally themselves with the likes of the children.

He'd probably go... you guys suck at killing iceman, so get out of my face :D

So then why were the Acolytes fighting the X-Men with intent on killing some of them?

[The Lucky One]

Well, the goal of the Children is to kill all mutantkind. And the goal of the Acolytes is for mutantkind to rule the world. So I suppose it would be kind of like the Marauders and the Morlocks teaming up. Or Magneto being on a team with Sabretooth.

-D

[Pro]

This is kind of like asking why the Acolytes don't side with the Friends of Humanity since they both want their species to rule supremely.

[Zombienorthstar]

So then why were the Acolytes fighting the X-Men with intent on killing some of them?

It's not cause they WANT to kill the X-Men it's just that as they see it the X-Men are one of the only forces standing in the way of mutant superiority and therefore its an 'ends justify the means' situation.

Most of the time they onyl attack the X-Men when the X-Men get in the way of their plans.

If all the X-Men suddenly went 'you're right mutants are superior' then the Acolytes wouldnt try to kill them anymore.

[ProfeZZor X]

I get everyone's point. Maybe I should have used the Marauders as a better example for this. Still, from a tactical point of view, teaming up with mutants that want to kill other mutants and humans seemed like a plausible reason for The Children to team up with the Marauders/Morlocks/Acolytes/Apocalypse for their goal of superiority and survival of the fittest.

[Metallurgique]

I can't see the Children teaming up with any mutants. Of known X-villians, only Bastion/Nimrod/MasterMold or Donald Pierce seem like people the Children would want to work with. Of the two of them, Pierce is a joke and Bastion's been deleted. Can't see these teamups being likely.

[Zombienorthstar]

I get everyone's point. Maybe I should have used the Marauders as a better example for this. Still, from a tactical point of view, teaming up with mutants that want to kill other mutants and humans seemed like a plausible reason for The Children to team up with the Marauders/Morlocks/Acolytes/Apocalypse for their goal of superiority and survival of the fittest.

Acolytes, Apocalypse and Marauders dont want to kill mutants....they want to kill their enemies. That's the subtle distinction. If all mutants agreed with them from an ideological standpoint there wouldn't be a problem.

The Children's goal isnt survival of the fittest, it's their own species survival. Apocalypse was willing to glady let the human and mutant race to fight to see who would win, the Children would not consider such a thing. Total genocide of anyone who isnt one of them is their aim.

[The Lucky One]

Acolytes, Apocalypse and Marauders dont want to kill mutants....they want to kill their enemies. That's the subtle distinction. If all mutants agreed with them from an ideological standpoint there wouldn't be a problem.

Agreed on the first two. But the Marauders have no ideology- they're psychopaths and assassins. They'll kill anyone they're paid to kill, and often anyone who happens to cross their path at the wrong time.

-D

[Hi-Fi]

Agreed on the first two. But the Marauders have no ideology- they're psychopaths and assassins. They'll kill anyone they're paid to kill, and often anyone who happens to cross their path at the wrong time.

-D

I like to think Vertigo has no idea of what she's doing!! She's such a lousy fighter.

[ProfeZZor X]

Agreed on the first two. But the Marauders have no ideology- they're psychopaths and assassins. They'll kill anyone they're paid to kill, and often anyone who happens to cross their path at the wrong time. -D

Well there you have it... What's better, than to have a team of mutants working with/for you to eliminate other mutants. What they do to each other afterwards is up in the air. So long as the strongest survives.

But again, this thread is just one of those hypathetical ideology situations, that won't get anything more than it's 15 minutes of fame... No offense taken. ;)