Were the Acolytes right?

[Nyssane]

Acolytes month shall not die!

I was thinking the other day -- are the Acolytes wrong for their actions? Sure, they're a bit more radical than the X-Men, but in a world that hates and fears them, what more could they possibly do but be scared back? I'm gay, and I've faced a lot of homophobia in my life, but if I had, like... super powers giving me "strength," I don't know what I would do. I guess I could just see where the Acolytes are coming from. Frenzy said it best in Magneto: Dark Seduction when she stated to Quicksilver "I'm black and I'm a mutant, don't talk to me about oppression!" I mean, Scarlet Witch has a point when she says "Too bad you didn't learn to be above them" (or whatever the funk she says, I don't remember that loony skank), but the Acolytes faced persecution every day. It's not surprising that they wanted to pay the humans back for treating them so poorly.

So, what is everyone else's opinion on that?

[Mikl C]

You're GAY? :eek:

[rilokyle]

Twincest rulezss!!!11111!!!lol~!!!2!!!

[Faded]

Some of the stuff I can't really understand or sympathize with what they did, but the Acolytes probably just wanted to go somewhere safe. Which is how we get hot Kleinstock twincest.

I think they need more development, but its always been my interpretation (and envisioned direction) for them to be handpicked because they are so misguided and in need of some security. They're psycho bitches who need love. <3<3<3<3

[Matthew K.]

I think they need more development, but its always been my interpretation (and envisioned direction) for them to be handpicked because they are so misguided and in need of some security.

^such is Scanner & Neo

i would say to bad those two never joined the X-Men after the crash of Avalon, but they'd probably just end up another forgotten & limbo-ed Rusty & Skids...but y'know they're not too far off from that anyway

[Onslaught Reborn]

No-one else voted for Kill Humans? That's sad. Are there no worthy Acolytes here?

[DDM]

The Acolytes basically magnified Magneto's beliefs about mutants & they "worshiped" him as a god. However, Magneto never took their worship seriously. Fabien Cortez just used the Acolytes as a means to an end to accumulate more power via Magneto. Of course, Cortez revealed his true colors just before he escaped from Asteroid M in X-Men #3.

Afterwards, the Acolytes seem to be just a bunch of mutants looking for the "savior" to return. I really did not care for the Jesus angle many writers put Magneto in because Magneto himself never viewed himself in this manner. Exodus did & still does. I think the Acolytes were used mainly to serve Exodus after he first appeared in the mutant books.

[Onslaught Reborn]

The Acolytes as a religion is probably worthy of a whole thread of it's own, but Magneto can be viewed as at the very least, passively-encouraging those who genuinely did worship him by his never doing anything to stop them. That alone speaks volumes, and it's a fascinating dynamic.

[Jack Flash]

i recently re-read a GN called Palestine by Sacco which details everyday struggles as seen by a cartoonist who visited the "Holy Land" in the 70's I believe.

While not saying I can support radicalized terror groups, after reading this book and thinking about my own life experiences, I certainly can empathize with a certain level of desperation that would cause folks to become radicalized.

so my vote was for a little of all of the answers Nyssy. Especially the twincest choice.

The More you know Moment:

*Rainbow!*

Magneto was Right. but so was Xavier. But it all has a cost. At the end of the day I just feel like Mag's and the Acolytes cost was too pricey to "innocents".

[The Surrealist]

Damn, I can't find that "Magneto Was Right" pic from the Morrison era to emphasize how right his Acolytes were! :rolleyes:

And of course, the obligatory MWAHAHAHA! :D

[caney]

I'm gonna vote no here or maybe twincest. Regardless of how much you try to justify their actions, they're still wrong. Obviously I have no idea what it's like to live under the oppressive circumstances they have to deal with, but there's no point at which killing people can be considered right. Even with some awesome mutant power, I don't see any situation that would make me attack innocent people or even non-innocent people without my life being directly threatened. I don't see how physically harming others can make anyone feel better.

[The Surrealist]

I'm gonna vote no here or maybe twincest. Regardless of how much you try to justify their actions, they're still wrong. Obviously I have no idea what it's like to live under the oppressive circumstances they have to deal with, but there's no point at which killing people can be considered right. Even with some awesome mutant power, I don't see any situation that would make me attack innocent people or even non-innocent people without my life being directly threatened. I don't see how physically harming others can make anyone feel better.

The moralist. Kudos to you. :)

[Omega Alpha]

I'm gonna vote no here or maybe twincest. Regardless of how much you try to justify their actions, they're still wrong. Obviously I have no idea what it's like to live under the oppressive circumstances they have to deal with, but there's no point at which killing people can be considered right. Even with some awesome mutant power, I don't see any situation that would make me attack innocent people or even non-innocent people without my life being directly threatened. I don't see how physically harming others can make anyone feel better.

You're making sense, stop it! Don't you know we have all to praise them for worshiping Magneto, the man who's ALONE the responsible for the commercial success of House of M?

[frog]

I had to vote no. It's never a good idea to worship someone!

[Omega Alpha]

I had to vote no. It's never a good idea to worship someone!

Except Jack Bauer.

[frog]

Except Jack Bauer.

Brian M., is that you?

[Polaris Rocks]

The Acolytes basically magnified Magneto's beliefs about mutants & they "worshiped" him as a god. However, Magneto never took their worship seriously. Fabien Cortez just used the Acolytes as a means to an end to accumulate more power via Magneto. Of course, Cortez revealed his true colors just before he escaped from Asteroid M.

Fabien Cortez was a scumbag, he was even mean to Polaris when she was an Acolyte.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

What happened in Genosha and to Captain America not just proved Magneto was right but his followers as well. If you don't "bow down" to the lesser race, they'll go out to either contain or destroy you and that's exactly what happened. Who can blame the Acolytes for their actions? Did they really believe that followers of Magneto would not fight back?

[Omega Alpha]

What happened in Genosha and to Captain America not just proved Magneto was right but his followers as well. If you don't "bow down" to the lesser race, they'll go out to either contain or destroy you and that's exactly what happened. Who can blame the Acolytes for their actions? Did they really believe that followers of Magneto would not fight back?

Cassandra Nova is not human, she doesn't belong to the "lesser" race.

Which, you know, happens to be the same that your mother, your father, your friend, as well as your siblings, children and wife/girlfriend/boyfriend, if you have them, belong. Oh, and you too (i hope).

[CJ Lentze]

I'm gonna vote no here or maybe twincest. Regardless of how much you try to justify their actions, they're still wrong. Obviously I have no idea what it's like to live under the oppressive circumstances they have to deal with, but there's no point at which killing people can be considered right. Even with some awesome mutant power, I don't see any situation that would make me attack innocent people or even non-innocent people without my life being directly threatened. I don't see how physically harming others can make anyone feel better.

Exactly. You can understand where someone is coming from, and still disagree with them.

We're not supposed to be rooting for the Acolytes. They're written to disagree with. Sure, each Acolyte is a character in their own right with their own story to tell and you could sympathise with one of them... but the Acolytes as a group, and the ideology they stand for is written as the wrong way to go. Opposite to them, the X-Men fight for a world where mutants are accepted by society, so that no mutant will go through the kind of oppression any of the Acolytes may have known in their past. They fight for a world where the very reason the Acolytes exist in the first place, would be gone.

Also, the Acolytes' ideas are kind of wonky. They say that human beings are violent and intolerant by nature, yet they present themselves as violent and intolerant themselves, becoming that which they 'despise'. They've attacked a bus full of handicapped children and a hospital, harming people who posed no threat to them at all. X-Men ally Sharon Friedlander was living proof that mutants and humans could co-exist until she was killed by... exactly, the Acolytes.

That being said, Carmella Unuscione is still one rocking villain, though.

[jmc247]

Fabien Cortez was a scumbag, he was even mean to Polaris when she was an Acolyte.

That was just because Lorna was closer to Magneto then Cortez.