View Full Version : Which X-Men would you like to see in the wider marvel teams?
Sunlitspire
03-19-2007, 07:19 AM
Ok so we do know that a certain weather controlling mutant and her hubbie are joining the FF and that wolverine somehow manages to be in 70 teams at once and still has time to do his laundry (Or possible not, after all you never see him change his uniform).
But which other X peeps would you like to see join the wider marvel universe teams E.G. Should nightcrawler join the avengers, should the new X-men and the young avengers team up and who would like to see rogue being at loggerheads with Mrs Marvel (only with Mike Carey writing however, sorry Bendis)?
The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 07:34 AM
If he is not part of the X-Men after they return to Earth I'd want to see Kurt return Excalibur. In my opinion that's always been his true place in the X-Titles. On the core books he just seems to ennd up as a bit part player most of the time. On Excalibur he was a major player.
Plus, another European on the team, iof not a Brit, would be favourable, and TJ's there anyway.
Daithi
03-19-2007, 07:41 AM
If he is not part of the X-Men after they return to Earth I'd want to see Kurt return Excalibur. In my opinion that's always been his true place in the X-Titles. On the core books he just seems to ennd up as a bit part player most of the time. On Excalibur he was a major player.
He's confirmed for Uncanny when the team returns. Rachel, Alex and Lorna seem to be free though.
jarrod
03-19-2007, 07:44 AM
I've always felt Lorna would make a good Avenger... now especially, symbolically making up for what her family's done to them. Ororo would make a great Avenger too, or Jean if she ever came back.
I've sort of felt Logan makes precious little sense as an Avenger though. Deosn't really seem like something he'd want to do.
The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 07:45 AM
He's confirmed for Uncanny when the team returns. Rachel, Alex and Lorna seem to be free though.
Well, that's pretty good news, as I see it. At least Brubaker seems to like working with Kurt as a character, and seems to be one of the only writers to write him well since he left Excalibur. Him and Claremont.
Cayman
03-19-2007, 07:48 AM
Havok, Polaris, Iceman, and Storm.
Greg Anderson
03-19-2007, 08:11 AM
I always thought Cyclops would make an awesome Avengers leader. And Bishop should join Mighty Avengers, dammit!
Jack Flash
03-19-2007, 08:38 AM
I'd like to see Jean Grey join the New Avengers. and Bishop get his faced stepped on more by members of the New Avengers.
zeroEDGE
03-19-2007, 08:43 AM
I wanna see Psylocke in the Avengers or something like that.
patch
03-19-2007, 08:47 AM
i have said it before and i will say it again bishop should rejoin the police force or join something like the FBI.
the capes have brought him nothing but trouble and kicks to the face lately.
becoming an actual law enforcement agent, where him being a mutant should be a secret and he will mostly depend on cop skils at first.
The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 08:48 AM
I wanna see Psylocke in the Avengers or something like that.
I want to see Psylocke back where she belongs, with her brother, on Excalibur.
Sunlitspire
03-19-2007, 08:53 AM
Yes heavan forbid we should have some british characters in excaliber
rwsmith
03-19-2007, 09:05 AM
Beast on the Mighty Avengers and Sabretooth on the New Thunderbolts.
Tobias March
03-19-2007, 09:07 AM
I always wanted Cannonball to graduate beyond the X-Men. Avengers maybe, but really it would interesting to take him out of that milieu.
I want to see if there are any long term results from Bishop's Pro-Reg status.
I mean an Avenger got downgraded to X-Men limbo as a member of the Starjammers (Carol Danvers..)
surely there's a member of the X-People's extended family who could fit in somewhere else in Marvel.
Tobias March
03-19-2007, 09:12 AM
double post
The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 09:16 AM
Yes heavan forbid we should have some british characters in excaliber
Exactly. Chamber should be there, too. I was gutted that Tieri brought him back and then wrote him out in the same issue. You'd think he might actually want to help stop his own country going to hell...? Apparently not.
They wouldn't even have to be mutants. I live in hope that Claremont will at some point explain where the other British Heroes have gone (Dark Angel, Death's Head, Motormouth and Killpower, for example).
But certainly Betsy would have made more sense back home in that book. I hope that when the day comes for her to leave eXiles that's where she goes. I think it'll be a long while yet, though.
rwsmith
03-19-2007, 09:26 AM
I could definitely see Bishop on the Mighty Avengers, but his powers might be a little redundant with Ms. Marvel also on the team. Perhaps he could be in the Initiative?
Brian M.
03-19-2007, 09:27 AM
Original 5. I'd like to see them in the wider MU. They have history with just about all the teams so it would make sense for them to interact more so than any other team...well I guess Wolverine and Storm now, but still.
Mariah
03-19-2007, 09:30 AM
Well, that's pretty good news, as I see it. At least Brubaker seems to like working with Kurt as a character, and seems to be one of the only writers to write him well since he left Excalibur. Him and Claremont.
I guess you haven't read the titles since he rejoined the X-Men huh? Ever since Excalibur was cancelled the first time, he's been a permanent fixture in one of the X-books.
The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 09:38 AM
I guess you haven't read the titles since he rejoined the X-Men huh? Ever since Excalibur was cancelled the first time, he's been a permanent fixture in one of the X-books.
Oh, sure, he's BEEN there. But more often than not written exactly as he was when he LEFT the X-Men, or as a tedious foil to make Havoc look like a better leader.
Brubaker has him much more like the Swashbuckling leader he should be.
jarrod
03-19-2007, 09:41 AM
I guess you haven't read the titles since he rejoined the X-Men huh? Ever since Excalibur was cancelled the first time, he's been a permanent fixture in one of the X-books.
Sure, but was he written all that well under (ready to quit) Segale/Kelly, (drug induced) Casey or (it's Austin) Austin?
Honestly, I don't think Bru's doing too hot a job either, Kurt's essentially been wallpaper since this arc started. He had some good moments under Claremont, but he tended to get overshadowed by the ladies and Logan anyway. Kurt was great under Davis though, as usual... really loved the issue where he checked up on Lorna.
We R. Venom
03-19-2007, 09:46 AM
After the mutants deal with all of their problems, I wouldnt mind seeing Sabertooth with the Thunderbolts. Beast with the Mighty Avengers. X-23 would make a good Young Avenger.
jarrod
03-19-2007, 09:51 AM
Really, I think branching out would've been a better option pre-Decimation. As is, I'd think the remaining X-mutants would be more likely to stick together.
streator
03-19-2007, 10:41 AM
iceman and/or cannonball on an avengers team someday.
Christopher O
03-19-2007, 10:48 AM
I think Wolverine and Storm are actually the most suited to branching out, and they've done just that. Outside of them, I'd love to see Jean get a mini focusing on her life after death with the Phoenix Corps. I also think Bishop and Sage would be groovy as SHIELD agents. I enjoyed that partnership(especially under Morrison).
Dark Ben
03-19-2007, 11:21 AM
I would like to see Iceman on an Avengers book or maybe even on his own he's not that popular but he has all to make an intresting character I think a good lead would be to give him nearly god-like statut in the marvel universe in whatever... We've seen tries to make him intresting in the X-book just a waste so I won't minf to give him a chance elsewhere.
I would also see Cyclops if he's still unpowered at the end of the actual Astonishing arc get a more official role as the one of Val Cooper or even a similar to the beast in X3.
I'd like to see Angel(Warren worthington) at the head of a new underground group (as the New Warriors) funding them
I'd like to see Lifeguard and slipstream (hey I really enjoyed them)
Mikahil Rasputin outside the X-Verse (as a Thunderbolt for example) I always like him such an intresting character
The M.E.
03-19-2007, 11:42 AM
Call me a segregator, but i like my x-men in x-men. Part of why storm and wolverine have lost their appeal to me is the overexposure they've gotten recently. And i don't think other writers get the characters as well when they show up in avengers, fantastic four, etc. It feels too much like a publicity thing..."fans love wolverine, let's use him". Same thing with Storm.
Flameworthy
03-19-2007, 11:57 AM
Dazzler needs to join the New Avengers, so that she can escape the awfulness that is New Excalibur. Plus she has ties to tons of Marvel characters, like She Hulk, Spider-Woman, The Fantastic Four, the Avengers, etc, etc.
Hi-Fi
03-19-2007, 12:02 PM
Call me a segregator, but i like my x-men in x-men. Part of why storm and wolverine have lost their appeal to me is the overexposure they've gotten recently. And i don't think other writers get the characters as well when they show up in avengers, fantastic four, etc. It feels too much like a publicity thing..."fans love wolverine, let's use him". Same thing with Storm.
I so agree!! I don't want Storm and Wolverine getting recognition or somethung like that in the Marvel Universe. I want them where I love them, which is the X-Men universe.
The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 12:06 PM
Dazzler needs to join the New Avengers, so that she can escape the awfulness that is New Excalibur. Plus she has ties to tons of Marvel characters, like She Hulk, Spider-Woman, The Fantastic Four, the Avengers, etc, etc.
Dazzler is simply nowhere near the level of any of those characters anymore, though. She slipped off the B list in the early 90s and badly needs re-invention and building up. That's how she ended up on New excalibur - a title which is far from a bad book, but hasn't half had a patchy first year. There's plenty reasons for that of course, but let's just see where Claremont intends to take her first. She won't be leaving the title anytime soon, and it Claremont wouldn't have chosen her on the book unless he had a plan for her. She was his choice for the team, afterall.
Flameworthy
03-19-2007, 12:10 PM
Dazzler is simply nowhere near the level of any of those characters anymore, though. She slipped off the B list in the early 90s and badly needs re-invention and building up. That's how she ended up on New excalibur - a title which is far from a bad book, but hasn't half had a patchy first year. There's plenty reasons for that of course, but let's just see where Claremont intends to take her first. She won't be leaving the title anytime soon, and it Claremont wouldn't have chosen her on the book unless he had a plan for her. She was his choice for the team, afterall.
Neither was Spider-Woman until Bendis got a hold of her. Look at her now, she's A-List material and appearing everywhere. Claremont hasn't done a damn thing with Dazzler except adding more baggage to her character with that lame coming back from the dead bit.
Metallurgique
03-19-2007, 12:15 PM
I'd like to see some of the more peripheral cast of X-characters farmed out to other titles. I think Anole would make a good protege for Spider-man, for instance. Wall clingin', super tongue, camo - Spidey would be a better teacher for Anole than any of the X-men except Nightcrawler, who's not around very much because he's currently leading the Uncanny squad. If Anole gets more time in NXM, which Craig Kyle says he will, then leave him where he is. Kyle, by the way, is right about Anole - the character has to shine as himself, not because of his sexual orientation.
I feel that if Anole and some of the others were in a less crowded cast, they'd be naturals for more development.
Mystique should be with the Thunderbolts. That's a match made in heaven if ever there was one. I don't like her as an X-man. She's done too much to too many of Xavier's proteges for me to really accept her in that role, although Carey has done good things with her. I still don't like her in that position and think she'd be a good fit as a general MU villian (she did, after all, start out as a Ms. Marvel/Avengers villian).
Alchemy has been used maybe three times in his existence, but he'd be good for the Runaways. So would Skids, for that matter. Both of these kids have had their lives seriously trashed by their experiences in relating to the mutant world.
Storm and T'Challa have replaced Reed & Sue on the FF, and they can stay there AFAIK. Storm doesn't have to be on an X-team for the world to be right, she's earned the right to "graduate."
I feel like Blindfold might be a good match for Dr. Strange...
Polaris might be a great Avenger. She's no less mentally unstable than long-termers like Wanda and Sersi. She's very powerful, and she's a public, relatively high-profile super heroine thanks to X-factor and Genosha. She's got the respect and the street cred. And she's the perfect counterpoint to Wanda.
The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 12:23 PM
Neither was Spider-Woman until Bendis got a hold of her. Look at her now, she's A-List material and appearing everywhere. Claremont hasn't done a damn thing with Dazzler except adding more baggage to her character with that lame coming back from the dead bit.
To be fair though, when has he actually had the chance... :D
Spider-woman only got the push because Bendis likes her - and let's be fair he's probably the biggest writer at Marvel right now. Likewise Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
Those characters got a big push because he wanted to write them. The bottom line is that Bendis didn't come in for Alison. I know there was a rumour that he might have wanted her, but she's in Claremont's hands now and will be for a the rest of 2007 and most probably beyond that too.
I think it's a great shame that he didn't get to resolve his Dazzler storyline earlier. It will doubtless be explored this year, though. I really wouldn't panic.
Erik Lehnsherr
03-19-2007, 03:38 PM
Now that Lorna is out of the X-books for the time being, I wouldn't mind her popping up in one of the new Avengers books.
Haunt
03-19-2007, 03:41 PM
Iceman should branch out, again. i've never seen as one to stick to mutantkind.
HeckBoy
03-19-2007, 04:09 PM
Back in the day, I always thought Angel should've taken up on the offer to join the Avengers. I don't know why, but to me his more public image seems to gel with the Avengers more than the often outlaw X-Men. Plus, you just gotta love the imagery of his wings on a cover. Hey, if they can have so many blasted Hawks on the JLA/JSA, the Avengers could stand to have some aerial ace, although given the rosters and MO of Mighty (almost all are flyers in addition to being powerhouses) and New (just about no need for flying since they gotta keep low), I don't see Warren really being able to fit in with either. Maybe when Cap comes back. :D
The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 04:41 PM
Back in the day, I always thought Angel should've taken up on the offer to join the Avengers. I don't know why, but to me his more public image seems to gel with the Avengers more than the often outlaw X-Men. Plus, you just gotta love the imagery of his wings on a cover. Hey, if they can have so many blasted Hawks on the JLA/JSA, the Avengers could stand to have some aerial ace, although given the rosters and MO of Mighty (almost all are flyers in addition to being powerhouses) and New (just about no need for flying since they gotta keep low), I don't see Warren really being able to fit in with either. Maybe when Cap comes back. :D
Wasn't there some artwork flying around the other week featuruing a World War Hulk Champions revival, with Hercules, Hulk and Angel on it, amongst others.
Or did I imagine this?:confused:
jarrod
03-19-2007, 04:44 PM
Rounding up the X-Men who have branched out so far (ie: formally joining a non-chiefly-X-verse related super team or organiziation)...
Xaiver (Illuminati)
Iceman (Champions, Defenders)
Archangel (Champions, Defenders)
Beast (Avengers, Defenders)
Mimic (Thunderbolts)
Wolverine (Alpha Flight, Avengers, Defenders, Fantastic Four, S.H.E.I.L.D.)
Storm (Fantastic Four)
Sunfire (Big Hero 6)
Shadowcat (S.H.I.E.L.D.)
Lockheed (S.W.O.R.D.)
Psylocke (S.T.R.I.K.E., The Corps)
Bishop (O*N*E)
Marrow (S.H.I.E.L.D.)
Dani Moonstar (S.H.I.E.L.D., The Valkyrie)
Northstar (Alpha Flight, Defenders)
Juggernaut (Exemplars)
The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 04:45 PM
Ah yes, here it is. From Newsarama's New York Comic Con World War Hulk Panel stuff:
http://www.newsarama.com/NYCC/2007/Marvel/INC_Hulk.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/NYCC/2007/Marvel/WWH.html
We R. Venom
03-19-2007, 04:45 PM
Iceman should branch out, again. i've never seen as one to stick to mutantkind.
Thats true, he has many other friends outside the X-men and such. Too bad no one can't write him like Carey.
HeckBoy
03-19-2007, 05:14 PM
Ah yes, here it is. From Newsarama's New York Comic Con World War Hulk Panel stuff:
http://www.newsarama.com/NYCC/2007/Marvel/INC_Hulk.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/NYCC/2007/Marvel/WWH.html
Yeah, but I don't think that's an actual team, so much as a team-up.
Depowered Cyclops for the Cap mantle.
the Hornet
03-19-2007, 06:28 PM
Ok so we do know that a certain weather controlling mutant and her hubbie are joining the FF and that wolverine somehow manages to be in 70 teams at once and still has time to do his laundry (Or possible not, after all you never see him change his uniform).
But which other X peeps would you like to see join the wider marvel universe teams E.G. Should nightcrawler join the avengers, should the new X-men and the young avengers team up and who would like to see rogue being at loggerheads with Mrs Marvel (only with Mike Carey writing however, sorry Bendis)?
I would like to see Cannonball join the NEw Avengers. Seems like that team would suit him.
Another fan-man wish would be to have a sort of Alliance of Superheroes formed. The way I see it, there are three superpowers in the MU - Avengers, FF and X-Men. It would be cool to see an alliance between these 3. As for the members, I would choose the guys who started the marvel age of -
The original FF
Cap
Iron Man
THOR
Spidey
Cyclops
Beast
Warren
Jean
Iceman
and throw in the Hulk, DD and Doc Strange too. And the Black Panther if its not too much.
Titanium
03-19-2007, 08:29 PM
Canonball getting recruited to the Avengers or being sent out as a representative for the mutants to the Initiative would be neat to explore.
But Bishop turning up in the Initiative book would be really cool. He's burnt bridges at home and with his experience as an X-man and XSE officer, Stark appoints him as a top trainer for the Initiative rookies. Or he gets slipped into the Thunderbolts as a spy to make sure they are staying on track, because who honestly trusts Norman Osborn?
I would dig seeing Rogue on the avengers though. I always wanted to see classic Ms Marvel powered Rogue join the team. Rogue kinda has more leverage to become the top female hero than Ms. Marvel does anyway.
Post-It
03-20-2007, 01:42 PM
Juggernaut should be allowed to leave the X-books. I always wanted to see him teaming with the other Marvel mystics.
Faded
03-20-2007, 01:56 PM
I've gotta admit I like them staying largely separate. I always seem them on non-opposing but different sides. Its what makes things interesting when there is conflict regarding someone like Wanda--she one of the few that has ties to both sides.
Tobias March
03-20-2007, 02:02 PM
Juggernaut should be allowed to leave the X-books. I always wanted to see him teaming with the other Marvel mystics.
It would certainly make more sense, seeing as he's not a mutant. Hell Strange invokes Cytorrak quite a bit.
The Fury
03-20-2007, 02:09 PM
They all should, the X-men should disband for a period. Except Cyclops, he can live at the mansion just doing Emma.
Iceman to the Avengers.
A few of the kids to New Warriors.
Pixie goes to Runaways.
Angel and Beast join a new Champions.
Nightcrawler and a few other just goto merry England to hang out with Excalbiur.
It's all good.
Omega Alpha
03-20-2007, 02:11 PM
They all should, the X-men should disband for a period. Except Cyclops, he can live at the mansion just doing Emma.
I think that a book like this would sell millions of copies:D
Faded
03-20-2007, 02:15 PM
They all should, the X-men should disband for a period. Except Cyclops, he can live at the mansion just doing Emma.
Iceman to the Avengers.
A few of the kids to New Warriors.
Pixie goes to Runaways.
Angel and Beast join a new Champions.
Nightcrawler and a few other just goto merry England to hang out with Excalbiur.
It's all good.
But what about all the interesting members?
Do you expect poor Rogue to just watch this porn fest?!?! :mad:
If any kid joins the Runaways, I'd hope it would be Anole. Aah, that'd be great.
The Fury
03-20-2007, 02:23 PM
But what about all the interesting members?
Do you expect poor Rogue to just watch this porn fest?!?! :mad:
If any kid joins the Runaways, I'd hope it would be Anole. Aah, that'd be great.
Oh Anole, that's a much better idea.
Infact just have both Pixie and Anole join up. Welsh and Coolness joining with awesomeness = great.
And yes, I expect Rogue to watch porn...what's the problem?
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