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colossus34
03-18-2007, 09:31 PM
This isn't a rumble, just curious to see if the two X-men powerhouses have tangled yet or even meet each other since Peter came back and Juggie joined Excalibur? Love to see them in a massive tangle...they have unfinished bussiness from that old bar room brawl when Colossus was just a young, drunk teen ;)

Also, just for fun love to see Colossus confront Hulk in the new WWH: Xmen mini!

Beast
03-18-2007, 09:41 PM
Why would they fight? They're both good guys. :confused:

colossus34
03-18-2007, 09:44 PM
Why would they fight? They're both good guys. :confused:

Spar then maybe for the title of "Strongest X-Man"? IDK...just curious to see if they have even meet since Colossus has matured to his current class 100 strength and Juggie at his recent power levels. Did Colossus acknowledge Cain as an X-men or dismiss him?

Wild Card13
03-18-2007, 09:48 PM
I don't think a rumble between the two of these guys is necessary. What I DO want to see is the two of them in a tag-team against the Hulk this summer.

But that's not happening.

colossus34
03-18-2007, 09:50 PM
I don't think a rumble between the two of these guys is necessary. What I DO want to see is the two of them in a tag-team against the Hulk this summer.

But that's not happening.

Thats a great idea that two once sworn enemies now teammates face off against Hulk--would be great!

Kaos
03-18-2007, 09:54 PM
I don't think a rumble between the two of these guys is necessary. What I DO want to see is the two of them in a tag-team against the Hulk this summer.

But that's not happening.

Why ain it happenin?

Beast
03-18-2007, 10:03 PM
Why ain it happenin?
Because there's no really easy/quick way to get Juggy to the U.S. from England.

colossus34
03-18-2007, 10:06 PM
Because there's no really easy/quick way to get Juggy to the U.S. from England.

How about US Airways?

Beast
03-18-2007, 10:08 PM
How about US Airways?
Not exactly easy and quick. The mini is only three issues.

colossus34
03-18-2007, 10:11 PM
Not exactly easy and quick. The mini is only three issues.

I'm assuming word gets out through a distress call by issue 1 and Juggie and Excalibur get a call to fly their butts to the X-Mansion asap. Otherwise, long as Colossus gets to tussle with Hulkie and actually gets some good hits in to prove his class 100 strength-- I'll be happy :)

Kaos
03-18-2007, 10:17 PM
Because there's no really easy/quick way to get Juggy to the U.S. from England.

X JET!!!!! easy

Brian M.
03-18-2007, 10:17 PM
I'd rather see them make love.

Frodo-X
03-18-2007, 10:22 PM
I'd rather see them make love.
Now, Butters, you're just confused!

Beast
03-18-2007, 10:26 PM
I'd rather see them make love.
And you think my Sabretooth/Wolverine picture is disturbing. :eek:

Brian M.
03-18-2007, 10:29 PM
Now, Butters, you're just confused!

I wasn't confused until you people started telling me I was confused. I like being bicurious.

The Lucky One
03-18-2007, 11:24 PM
X JET!!!!! easy

On a completely unrelated note, if they don't ditch the whole "X-Jet" thing soon and go back to using the infinitely cooler Blackbird, kittens will die or something. Whatever. "X-Jet"? Who are they, Batman?

-D

TinMan
03-19-2007, 06:37 AM
This isn't a rumble, just curious to see if the two X-men powerhouses have tangled yet or even meet each other since Peter came back and Juggie joined Excalibur? Love to see them in a massive tangle...they have unfinished bussiness from that old bar room brawl when Colossus was just a young, drunk teen ;)

Also, just for fun love to see Colossus confront Hulk in the new WWH: Xmen mini!I don't see Peter brawling with him now, I think he would more than likely give him props for becoming a hero.

Though I do think Colossus would hand him his ass now considering Peter's power up and Juggs nerfing.:D

I'd rather see them make love.HAWT!!!

Karl H
03-19-2007, 06:40 AM
HAWT!!!

No comment...


The trouble with having the 'big guys' go at it with each other fight wise is that it's a bit like heavy weight boxing in the real world, I just imagine big sweaty units swinging slowly with no real technique... Realise I may have opened a can of worms but that's just my view.

TinMan
03-19-2007, 06:54 AM
No comment...


The trouble with having the 'big guys' go at it with each other fight wise is that it's a bit like heavy weight boxing in the real world, I just imagine big sweaty units swinging slowly with no real technique... Realise I may have opened a can of worms but that's just my view.Pfft, you're the one calling no comment on the man-on-man action, but you're thinking about their "units"? Closet case!

As for combat, I don't know about Juggy, but Colossus has been trained in Judo by Cyclops, so technically Colossus shouldn't be randomly swinging like a retarded child trying to hit a Piniota.

Ogrebear
03-19-2007, 07:44 AM
The only Juggs vs Peter fight I can think of is back in the 80's (?) where Peter, Wolverine and ?? had gone for a drink and Peter split Juggs pint. At the time Juggs flattened Pete's butt, but he was at his 'proper' power levels then.

Now?
Well with Juggs being a weak ass compared to where he was....hum...I seem to remember something from Austen's run where Juggs is working out in the Danger Room lifting or pressing something heavy and struggling and someone in the room with him is comparing him to Pete and 'Colossus handled this weight easy' - now Cain seems to be less weak in New Excalibur than in Austen's run but I bet if it came down to a man on man fight with Colossus he'd lose, sad to say.

As for sweaty Cain on Pete lovin' I don't think either gent would be so inclined. However if there is any fan-fic on this please link.....*grin*

The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 08:07 AM
Why ain it happenin?

Excalibur will be in the middle of a Seven Part story Arc when the X-Crossover starts. There's not really any logical way of bringing Cain across. New Excalibur and eXiles will not be playing any part in the event.

Xanrn
03-19-2007, 08:20 AM
Shame Excal can't make it.

I want to see Captain Britain use his Class 90 Str on the Hulk.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 08:24 AM
Shame Excal can't make it.

I want to see Captain Britain use his Class 90 Str on the Hulk.

He and Juggernaut could have been really usefull, yes. But sadly Excalibur is tied up throughout the summer, and then there's the eXiles/new Excalibur mini in the fall. Busy times.

Kaos
03-19-2007, 08:55 AM
He and Juggernaut could have been really usefull, yes. But sadly Excalibur is tied up throughout the summer, and then there's the eXiles/new Excalibur mini in the fall. Busy times.

curses....:'(

The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 09:00 AM
curses....:'(

Hey, you should just be glad that Marvel have finally given the UK back a team, mate. :D

Seriously, though, by rights Cap and Juggernaut should be able to give the Hulk a fair fight.

Kaos
03-19-2007, 09:02 AM
Hey, you should just be glad that Marvel have finally given the UK back a team, mate. :D

Seriously, though, by rights Cap and Juggernaut should be able to give the Hulk a fair fight.

I'll be happy when they have a black guy..called Kaos...ohh yeah

Brian M.
03-19-2007, 09:05 AM
NEX comes to the mansion after the X-Over and everyone is celebrating their glorious victory and the saving of the mutant race. Everyone starts drinking...Colossus and Juggs split a whole keg . After some buddy buddy bro type talk Colossus tells Juggs that if he needs a place to crash his room is free. Well a few tequila shots later and it is on. Next morning they both wake up nakkkid and fight.

That work?

DDM
03-19-2007, 09:07 AM
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DDM
03-19-2007, 09:10 AM
This isn't a rumble, just curious to see if the two X-men powerhouses have tangled yet or even meet each other since Peter came back and Juggie joined Excalibur? Love to see them in a massive tangle...they have unfinished bussiness from that old bar room brawl when Colossus was just a young, drunk teen ;)

Also, just for fun love to see Colossus confront Hulk in the new WWH: Xmen mini!

Already happened in Uncanny X-Men #183:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.183.GIF

Cain Marko is in his civilian identity in a bar; however, Wolverine spots him with his enhanced senses. The fight starts when Colossus accidently spills beer on Marko as Wolverine puts Colossus in his place by his treatment of Kitty.

Why repeat a fight that already was finished? There's no point really. It's like Grant Morrison writing another fight between Emma Frost & Phoenix in New X-Men #139 because he loved the original fight between the White Queen & Phoenix from Uncanny X-Men #131.

rZi
03-19-2007, 09:15 AM
you seem to be fogetting that they have already fought, in Uncanny #183
It was a bar brawl and colossus got owned.

IGN: "Colossus has just broken young Kitty Pryde's heart, so Wolverine insists Piotr come out for a drink at the local pub. A bad coincidence has Cain Marko, the Juggernaut, out for a drink, minding his own business. One spilled bear later and Colossus and Juggs are beating each other senseless. Wolverine and Nightcrawler don't help as Colossus is served a hefty dose of humiliation. It's a lesson in what happens when you don't work with a team, one that is heard loud and clear by Colossus."

Mariah
03-19-2007, 09:15 AM
Stupid Double Post.

Mariah
03-19-2007, 09:18 AM
Already happened in Uncanny X-Men #183:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.183.GIF

Cain Marko is in his civilian identity in a bar; however, Wolverine spots him with his enhanced senses. The fight starts when Colossus accidently spills beer on Marko as Wolverine puts Colossus in his place by his treatment of Kitty.

Why repeat a fight that already was finished? There's no point really. It's like Grant Morrison writing another fight between Emma Frost & Phoenix in New X-Men #139 because he loved the original fight between the White Queen & Phoenix from Uncanny X-Men #131.

you seem to be fogetting that they have already fought, in Uncanny #183
It was a bar brawl and colossus got owned.

IGN: "Colossus has just broken young Kitty Pryde's heart, so Wolverine insists Piotr come out for a drink at the local pub. A bad coincidence has Cain Marko, the Juggernaut, out for a drink, minding his own business. One spilled bear later and Colossus and Juggs are beating each other senseless. Wolverine and Nightcrawler don't help as Colossus is served a hefty dose of humiliation. It's a lesson in what happens when you don't work with a team, one that is heard loud and clear by Colossus."
The guy who started the thread knows. He asked when is it going to happen again. It was even there in his initial post. He wanted to see the sequel to the 183 fight.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 09:19 AM
NEX comes to the mansion after the X-Over and everyone is celebrating their glorious victory and the saving of the mutant race. Everyone starts drinking...Colossus and Juggs split a whole keg . After some buddy buddy bro type talk Colossus tells Juggs that if he needs a place to crash his room is free. Well a few tequila shots later and it is on. Next morning they both wake up nakkkid and fight.

That work?

While Wisdom and Kitty sort out their issues in a room together...?:rolleyes:

DDM
03-19-2007, 09:22 AM
The guy who started the thread knows. He asked when is it going to happen again. It was even there in his initial post. He wanted to see the sequel to the 183 fight.

As I said, there's no point to a sequel. It was finished. Besides, the X-Men fight the Juggernaut again in Uncanny X-Men #194. Colossus is there too. However, the Juggernaut finds himself with uneasy allies given the super Sentinel Nimrod deems them both worthy of death...

Mariah
03-19-2007, 09:23 AM
While Wisdom and Kitty sort out their issues in a room together...?:rolleyes:
Yeah. She breaks out Sage's bondage toys and goes to town on Wisdom. You know he's a total bottom.

Mariah
03-19-2007, 09:25 AM
As I said, there's no point to a sequel. It was finished. Besides, the X-Men fight the Juggernaut again in Uncanny X-Men #194. Colossus is there too. However, the Juggernaut finds himself with uneasy allies given the super Sentinel Nimrod deems them both worthy of death...
They never fought the Juggernaut in that issue. They fought Nimrod. They were in the bank chasing after Jugs when Nimrod attacked.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 09:28 AM
Yeah. She breaks out Sage's bondage toys and goes to town on Wisdom. You know he's a total bottom.

Ha ha. I think that Wisdom would be a lot more in control than you'd think. But would inevitably get all emotional about it...

Mariah
03-19-2007, 09:32 AM
Ha ha. I think that Wisdom would be a lot more in control than you'd think. But would inevitably get all emotional about it...
Right. That's why he employs male hookers? I think not.

ProfeZZor X
03-19-2007, 09:42 AM
By the way, did the Hulk get his ass handed to him by the (fully powered) Juggernaut a few years ago... when the Hulk was playing a "Judge Dread" of sorts?

The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 09:43 AM
Right. That's why he employs male hookers? I think not.

Well, he does sleep with Fairies. :D But literal ACTUAL fairies.:eek: And only to stop their father's invading Britain...

Mariah
03-19-2007, 09:46 AM
Well, he does sleep with Fairies. :D But literal ACTUAL fairies.:eek: And only to stop their father's invading Britain...
Sigh. Fairies=Drag Queens.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 10:40 AM
I'm talking about literal fairies, here.

Wisdom is currently married to Tink, daughter of Oberon, in a bid to stop a ware between her father and the Britain of Earth 616. See Wisdom #'s 1-3, so far.

Mariah
03-19-2007, 11:24 AM
I'm talking about literal fairies, here.

Wisdom is currently married to Tink, daughter of Oberon, in a bid to stop a ware between her father and the Britain of Earth 616. See Wisdom #'s 1-3, so far.
Probably not. See, I don't care for Wisdom, nor would I pick up a book that especially focuses on him. Unless he was getting ran over repeatedly and then completely wiped from the face of the earth.

Flameworthy
03-19-2007, 11:32 AM
Isn't Juggernaut going back to his original power levels in the next arc of NEX? I could have sworn I heard that somewhere. It's definately possible now that he has the gem back. If so, then I think he'd probably have the edge over Colossus.

colossus34
03-19-2007, 11:39 AM
Already happened in Uncanny X-Men #183:
Why repeat a fight that already was finished? There's no point really. It's like Grant Morrison writing another fight between Emma Frost & Phoenix in New X-Men #139 because he loved the original fight between the White Queen & Phoenix from Uncanny X-Men #131.

Colossus was what 18 when that fight happeend!?! Not to mention drunk, still only a class 75 bruiser and still very inexperienced. I want to see a more mature Peter battle it out with Juggs, now that he's stronger, better fighter and has some history with each other. Be a great clash of the X-Titans!

Amokitty
03-19-2007, 11:43 AM
I think that Wisdom would be a lot more in control than you'd think. But would inevitably get all emotional about it...

Wisdom is currently married to Tink, daughter of Oberon, in a bid to stop a ware between her father and the Britain of Earth 616. See Wisdom #'s 1-3, so far.

Could you try just a little harder to not turn this into a Wisdom thread?? Back on topic, please.


As I said, there's no point to a sequel. It was finished. Besides, the X-Men fight the Juggernaut again in Uncanny X-Men #194.

I agree. It was merely one in series of fights between them. I suppose one could even say that Uncanny #183 was a 'sequel' to the great Colossus-Juggernaut fight in Spider-Woman #38. And the fight in Marvel Team-Up #150 (not as great) was a sequel to Uncanny #194.

Colossus and Juggernaut have ALWAYS been at odds. Just because they're both on X-teams now doesn't mean that they've buried the hatchet. I'd like to see another fight with them too!

DDM
03-19-2007, 11:51 AM
I agree. It was merely one in series of fights between them. I suppose one could even say that Uncanny #183 was a 'sequel' to the great Colossus-Juggernaut fight in Spider-Woman #38. And the fight in Marvel Team-Up #150 (not as great) was a sequel to Uncanny #194.



The X-Men--Rogue, Longshot, Dazzler & Psylocke--also fight the Juggernaut in Scotland in Uncanny X-Men #217-218 post Marvel Team-Up #150 before he turns up again in Excalibur #3 to fight Captain Britain, Meggan, Shadowcat, Nightcrawler & Phoenix.

DDM
03-19-2007, 11:55 AM
Colossus was what 18 when that fight happeend!?! Not to mention drunk, still only a class 75 bruiser and still very inexperienced. I want to see a more mature Peter battle it out with Juggs, now that he's stronger, better fighter and has some history with each other. Be a great clash of the X-Titans!

The drinking age to drink alcohol legally in the USA is 21. Peter was 21 years old since his creation in Giant Saize X-Men #1. Before Shadowcat joined the team, Peter was the youngest X-Man.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-19-2007, 12:01 PM
Isn't Juggernaut going back to his original power levels in the next arc of NEX? I could have sworn I heard that somewhere. It's definately possible now that he has the gem back. If so, then I think he'd probably have the edge over Colossus.

I would think that he already has. The power degradation was not a Claremont concept, and Scott Eaton is certainly drawing him Hulk-sized again.

As I see it, while it was an iteresting idea to have a Colossus vs Juggernaut fight, back in the day, I really see no reason or credible way to get the two facing off right now. They ARE both good guys, and on different continents, after all.

FortKnox
03-19-2007, 12:04 PM
The drinking age to drink alcohol legally in the USA is 21. Peter was 21 years old since his creation in Giant Saize X-Men #1. Before Shadowcat joined the team, Peter was the youngest X-Man.

I think that issue came out back when the drinking age in the US was 18 and up.

Mariah
03-19-2007, 12:04 PM
The drinking age to drink alcohol legally in the USA is 21. Peter was 21 years old since his creation in Giant Saize X-Men #1. Before Shadowcat joined the team, Peter was the youngest X-Man.
It is now, but back when the issue was written, it was 18. Even in the issue itself, Peter when getting carded says he is almost 20. That would make him roughly 19.

xakko
03-19-2007, 08:18 PM
Colossus and Juggernaut had a couple fights - don't forget the battle at Cassidy Keep in #102-103. And Peter was definitely ready for a rematch in #194, but Nimrod intervened.

I think Cain and Peter would go spar in the Danger Room. Peter is the more skilled fighter, but if Cain really has the gem back, and is at full strength, well they do say nothing stops the Juggernaut.

An enraged Hulk or Thor were perhaps the only ones comparable to fully powered Juggernaut.

It would be interesting, perhaps, if they explored the anti-magic properties of Colossus's armor, and if that somehow weakened Cytorrak's might.

colossus34
03-19-2007, 08:28 PM
Colossus and Juggernaut had a couple fights - don't forget the battle at Cassidy Keep in #102-103. And Peter was definitely ready for a rematch in #194, but Nimrod intervened.

I think Cain and Peter would go spar in the Danger Room. Peter is the more skilled fighter, but if Cain really has the gem back, and is at full strength, well they do say nothing stops the Juggernaut.

An enraged Hulk or Thor were perhaps the only ones comparable to fully powered Juggernaut.

It would be interesting, perhaps, if they explored the anti-magic properties of Colossus's armor, and if that somehow weakened Cytorrak's might.

Even a danger room battle would be great. And I NEVER thought about the fact that Colossus' body has anti-magic properties it shouldweaken or affect Cytorrack. Although, it doesn't surprise me that it was never explored-maybe that alone is an excuse to get these super X brawlers into a clash!

xakko
03-19-2007, 08:35 PM
Even a danger room battle would be great. And I NEVER thought about the fact that Colossus' body has anti-magic properties it shouldweaken or affect Cytorrack. Although, it doesn't surprise me that it was never explored-maybe that alone is an excuse to get these super X brawlers into a clash!
it's been shown to hurt demons and other magic creatures such as the Trickster in Fall of the Mutants, Nastir'h in Inferno, and Baba Yaga in #231. given his sister's predilection for sorcery, it would be an interesting angle.

Robodojo
03-20-2007, 12:36 AM
For a long time I wanted to see a rematch between the two, simply to see how the powered-up Colossus would do against his rival. But now that Juggy's a good guy, I have no interest in a battle between the two, as others have stated.

Besides, I get the impression that the current crop of x-writers and editors aren't aware that Chris Claremont elevated Colossus into the 100 strength class. He should be far more difficult to take out then he often is. Although nothing is as bad as Warren Ellis having the Ultimate version of Colossus defeated by the Falcon threatening to shoot him in the eye with a handgun. That was truly painful (not to mention plain silly).

DDM
03-20-2007, 09:01 AM
Even a danger room battle would be great. And I NEVER thought about the fact that Colossus' body has anti-magic properties it shouldweaken or affect Cytorrack. Although, it doesn't surprise me that it was never explored-maybe that alone is an excuse to get these super X brawlers into a clash!

Colossus impervious to all forms of magick is revealed in Uncanny X-Men #227 with him being Roma's wild card to defeat the Adversary. It is further developed in Uncanny X-Men #231 (vs S'ym & Baba Yaga in Limbo) & during Inferno in Uncanny X-Men #239-243 (he's immune to the Goblin Queen's spell while the other X-Men degenerate into their darker natures) plus The New Mutants #73 (Colossus helps Magik defeat her Darkchilde self & helps her rid Manhattan of demons).

ProfeZZor X
03-20-2007, 09:06 AM
An enraged Hulk or Thor were perhaps the only ones comparable to fully powered Juggernaut.

The Hulk got pimp-slapped by a fully powered Juggernaut a few years ago when the Hulk was "War".

...Case closed. Juggernaut WINS!!!

http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv2457053rd.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page187aq.jpg

Romus
03-20-2007, 10:36 AM
Writers and editors seem to forget all if Colossus' little developments (magic resistance, no need to breath, higher power level).

Romus
03-20-2007, 10:39 AM
The Hulk got pimp-slapped by a fully powered Juggernaut a few years ago when the Hulk was "War".

...Case closed. Juggernaut WINS!!!

http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv2457053rd.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page187aq.jpg


When it coems to raw power, sure. But he can be beat in other ways. And it would be nice to play up Colossus' resistance to magic. Juggy has a force field type effect but somehow Colossus got through it where others could not.

Gladiator
03-20-2007, 10:57 PM
You guys are drinkin' Drano...fully powered Juggernaut whips Colossus! Nuff said.

Mariah
03-20-2007, 11:14 PM
You guys are drinkin' Drano...fully powered Juggernaut whips Colossus! Nuff said.
A fully powered juggy got beat by Spider-Man. All you need is to use your head.

steve2275
03-21-2007, 03:11 AM
Writers and editors seem to forget all if Colossus' little developments (magic resistance, no need to breath, higher power level).
instead were stuck with stats from 198fuckin5

xakko
03-21-2007, 04:51 PM
A fully powered juggy got beat by Spider-Man. All you need is to use your head.

he got dumped into cement by a guy with preternatural agility and a spider-sense that warned him of danger.

Colossus could probably use judo against him, but unless the anti-magic properties of his armor are played up and expanded on, there's precious little he could do to hurt Cain

per this site (http://www.incrediblehulk.com/juggernaut.html) Hulk's got the edge over Juggy

Wild Card13
03-21-2007, 08:33 PM
Although nothing is as bad as Warren Ellis having the Ultimate version of Colossus defeated by the Falcon threatening to shoot him in the eye with a handgun. That was truly painful (not to mention plain silly).

Actually, that makes sesne. Ultimate Colossus, unlike his 616 counterpart, does not have armored eyes. Shooting him in the eye would be an insta-kill, and I'm very sure Colossus, in all of his might, doesn't want that.

A fight between these two would be cool and all, but it'd be like the fight between Iceman and Pyro in the third movie: flashy and kind of cool, but completely unnecessary. Again I lament, if only they could tag-team against the Hulk...

ProfeZZor X
03-22-2007, 08:36 AM
A fully powered juggy got beat by Spider-Man. All you need is to use your head.

Yeah, but Piotr is no "Peter Parker, boy genius" either.

Scavenger
03-22-2007, 10:31 AM
Not exactly easy and quick. The mini is only three issues.

The concord then.

rZi
03-22-2007, 10:42 AM
Although i haven't been reading new excalibur lately last time i read it cain was on the good side? unless this changes he wont ever have to fit colossus will he? Or does he still hate the x-men and just not everyone else?

Arilou
03-22-2007, 10:46 AM
They'll fight when Her Majesty decides to take Her Colonies back.

Duh.

Suiciety
03-22-2007, 10:50 AM
I dunno...I'd like to see Colossus go at it with the newly de-powered Juggy - if for nothing else, finally seeing Petey give Cain the beatdown I've been wanting to see for years.

And I don't buy the fact that the Ult version of Colossus has vulnerable human eyes while armored up. I'm pretty certain that his eyes would have "popped" out of his head (due to the depth and other aquatic related issues) when he went underwater to pull that 100+ ton Russian sub to safety. But then again, since when do writers care about continuity when it comes to Colossus? Chyort vahzmee, indeed!

ivesaidway2much
03-22-2007, 12:42 PM
A fully powered juggy got beat by Spider-Man. All you need is to use your head.If I remember correctly, didn't Spider-man just get incredibly lucky in that fight? I don't recall him using his head for much more than getting in the way of Juggy's fists.

Gladiator
03-22-2007, 10:25 PM
If I remember correctly, didn't Spider-man just get incredibly lucky in that fight? I don't recall him using his head for much more than getting in the way of Juggy's fists.


Exactly!...:cool:

colossus34
03-22-2007, 11:11 PM
I dunno...I'd like to see Colossus go at it with the newly de-powered Juggy - if for nothing else, finally seeing Petey give Cain the beatdown I've been wanting to see for years.

And I don't buy the fact that the Ult version of Colossus has vulnerable human eyes while armored up. I'm pretty certain that his eyes would have "popped" out of his head (due to the depth and other aquatic related issues) when he went underwater to pull that 100+ ton Russian sub to safety. But then again, since when do writers care about continuity when it comes to Colossus? Chyort vahzmee, indeed!

I agree on both accounts. I want to see Big C have a major throwdown with another powerhouse if only because he hasn't had one in ages. Rockslide in New X-men doesn't count cause he broke his arm and soloed the entire rookie in a coulpe pages. Colossus needs a challenge to show himself off.

Also didn't understand the whole eyeball thing makes no sense if he can travel to the bottom of the ocean etc if he doesn't at least turn his eyealls into steel too.