Just how strong is Captain Britain? [Archive]

NightBirdFlying

03-18-2007, 03:31 PM

Ok, so in new Ex 16, cap britain catches the Juggernaut with no trouble what so ever, and crushs a gun in his hands, so just where is Brian on the power scale?

Beast

03-18-2007, 03:37 PM

Marvel Wikipedia lists him as being able to lift (press) 2 tons. But I believe that's increased.

Edit: It has. Marvel.Com lists him at the following:

Brian is superhumanly strong, able to lift 90 tons, and possesses enhanced reflexes, stamina and senses (sufficient to pierce holograms, but not on a par with Wolverine). He can also fly up to 770 mph for prolonged periods. He derives his energies from the friction between dimensions, focused in a matrix centered on the U.K., and formerly needed his costume to focus his powers and provide a battery when outside the U.K.; however he may have alleviated this weakness when he briefly severed his mystic connection to the U.K. to empower Kelsey Leigh. As Britannic, he had prophetic visions, tied to memories of experiencing all history while lost in the timeline. He is apparently immune to his sister's psionic powers, though not his elder brother's reality warping abilities.

Flight

03-18-2007, 03:47 PM

He's as strong as your nan.

NightBirdFlying

03-18-2007, 03:47 PM

Groovy, thanks for the assist.:)

jarrod

03-18-2007, 03:54 PM

How strong are Colossus, Warpath and Juggernaut then? I thought I remembered Colossus being able to lift 70 tons, but now I'm not sure...

The Fury

03-18-2007, 04:28 PM

Marvel Wikipedia lists him as being able to lift (press) 2 tons. But I believe that's increased.

HAHAHAHAHahahaha, Class 2? seriously? That's great.

Class 2...
I always thought he was Class 50 but nevermind...

How strong are Colossus, Warpath and Juggernaut then? I thought I remembered Colossus being able to lift 70 tons, but now I'm not sure...

According to old Official Handbook.

Colossus = Class 90
Warpath = class 75 (but has aged since so now I'm guessing Class 85).
Classic Juggernaut = Class 100+ (I predict Class 120 to Hulk's Class 150).
Now Juggs = Class 4 apparently, it's crap. whatever it is.

jarrod

03-18-2007, 05:30 PM

Juggs can only lift 4 tons now? WTF happened?

How strong are Guido, Beast and Sunspot then? And Rogue formerly?

The Sword Is Drawn

03-18-2007, 06:46 PM

We're still not 100% sure quite how far his powers have been ramped up, but certainly from in panel evidence such as catching Cain in #16, deflecting extreme amounts of gunfire with his force-field in #10, or literally knocking Jaspers/Fury off over the horizon during House of M - in a single punch no less - we know that they've had a considerable upgrade. Most likely due to his repowering in 2000's Excalibur limited series, and subsequent Monarch of Otherworld status.

He's a literal powerhouse now. I'm not even sure if the suit even works as an amplifier to achieve that, anymore.

The Sword Is Drawn

03-18-2007, 06:50 PM

Juggs can only lift 4 tons now? WTF happened?

It's whayt happens when you try to sever your ties with the demigod who gave you your powers. Technically Cain does now have the Cyttorak Gem in his possesion, after lying to his teamates over taking it, but as to whether he's is properly embracing Cyttorak, and once again operating as his avatar on Earth, is still not known...

Beast

03-18-2007, 07:00 PM

It's whayt happens when you try to sever your ties with the demigod who gave you your powers. Technically Cain does now have the Cyttorak Gem in his possesion, after lying to his teamates over taking it, but as to whether he's is properly embracing Cyttorak, and once again operating as his avatar on Earth, is still not known...
Though Marvel said at WWLA, that Juggernaut should be back to his original power levels now. ;)

The Sword Is Drawn

03-18-2007, 07:26 PM

Though Marvel said at WWLA, that Juggernaut should be back to his original power levels now. ;)

Yeah, I think it was always pretty safe to assume. I mean look at the size of the guy in the last 2 issues. :eek: He's back to Hulk Sized proportions, as frankly he should be.

The Lucky One

03-18-2007, 10:56 PM

And Rogue formerly?

Rogue was about Class 45-50 back in the day. Similar to Sabra, who's Class 50.

As for Cap Britain, he's been up and down the power scale more than a whore's drawers. I'll confess he's one of the ones I don't even bother thinking about anymore, it's never very consistent.

-D

Titan76

03-19-2007, 12:05 AM

Rogue was about Class 45-50 back in the day. Similar to Sabra, who's Class 50.
I could have sworn Rogue was about 70-75 tons. Wasn't there an Uncanny X-men issue where she was lifting one of the Thing's old weight lifting machines and it read over 70 tons?

The Sword Is Drawn

03-19-2007, 02:43 AM

As for Cap Britain, he's been up and down the power scale more than a whore's drawers. I'll confess he's one of the ones I don't even bother thinking about anymore, it's never very consistent.

His power level was downgraded in early Excalibur due to the 'buffer' Roma had put his powers, forcing him to work as a team player. Once that was removed he went back to being a powerhouse, again.

He was dumbed down quite a lot in the 90s Lobdell period of Excalibur, as Britannic, but other than that he hasn't been too confusing. His power levels, when he's actually seen, have been pretty consistent so far this decade.

The Lucky One

03-19-2007, 06:07 AM

I could have sworn Rogue was about 70-75 tons. Wasn't there an Uncanny X-men issue where she was lifting one of the Thing's old weight lifting machines and it read over 70 tons?

Well, the one instance I specifically remember of her using one of the Thing's old weightlifting machines was around the time of Fall of the Mutants; she was at a gym, and the manager mentioned that he'd just bought one of the Thing's old devices as a novelty for the gym, but she was welcome to use it. At that point, she lifted just over 45 tons, which is what made me give Class 45-50 as her range.

-D

ibrakeforchinwe

03-19-2007, 06:27 AM

Captain Britain is as strong as England.

The Sword Is Drawn

03-19-2007, 07:26 AM

Captain Britain is as strong as England.

Well, technically he's the strength of an infinite number of multiversal England's... But yes if the UK of 616 were to be wiped out in some kind of international incident, then his powers would doubtless take a pretty hefty dent.

Mikl C

03-20-2007, 05:44 AM

Since when has England = UK/ Britain?

The Sword Is Drawn

03-20-2007, 06:06 AM

Since when has England = UK/ Britain?

Hey, I was only quoting in context... :D

ibrakeforchinwe

03-20-2007, 06:55 AM

Well, technically he's the strength of an infinite number of multiversal England's... But yes if the UK of 616 were to be wiped out in some kind of international incident, then his powers would doubtless take a pretty hefty dent.

Yeah, thats true, so he is pretty strong. Then again all the Captains are powered by that Multiversal UK matrix thing. *head spins*

Has CB ever shown any weakness in Scottland or Ireland? Thatd be funny.

The Sword Is Drawn

03-20-2007, 07:22 AM

Yeah, thats true, so he is pretty strong. Then again all the Captains are powered by that Multiversal UK matrix thing. *head spins*

Has CB ever shown any weakness in Scottland or Ireland? Thatd be funny.

Ha ha! Yeah, that'd be funny. They'd hate him even more in wales... ;)

The Fury

03-20-2007, 07:28 AM

Since when has England = UK/ Britain?

Yeah, as far as I understood it, Sword. It was British Isles.

The Sword Is Drawn

03-20-2007, 07:31 AM

Yeah, as far as I understood it, Sword. It was British Isles.

The previous poster had said that Cap had the 'power of all of England' behind him. I said it was actually the power of all the Englands of the Multiverse.

No, it wasn't correct. But it was supposed to be in context with the previous poster's comment. :rolleyes:

Jeez, cut me some slack for responding to comments...:D

The Fury

03-20-2007, 07:46 AM

Jeez, cut me some slack for responding to comments...:D
NEVER!!!

*runs amok*

The Sword Is Drawn

03-20-2007, 07:57 AM

NEVER!!!

*runs amok*

Ha ha!

Something I've always wondered is quite how comparable in power level all the known Captains really are. It's one odf those thing we don't really get to compare very often.

For example, when Brian faught Hauptmann England the Hauptmann put up a very good figh. But back then Roma had put a power buffer on Brian, to fiorce him to be a team player. Now, I should imagine Brian is a lot more powerful.

Your Imaginary Pal

03-20-2007, 08:04 AM

So CB went from lifting 2 tons to 90 tons and Juggernaught went from class 120 to lifting 4 tons.

pretty strange to me.

The Lucky One

03-20-2007, 08:09 AM

England needs to hit the gym... it's looking a little flabby.

-D

The Sword Is Drawn

03-20-2007, 08:53 AM

England needs to hit the gym... it's looking a little flabby.

-D

This coming from the most overweight country on the planet... :D

Seriously though Modern Britain may be a little flabby, but it's more because it takes a different approach these days. Modern Britain wouldn't fight you, it would firebomb your house. :eek:

The Chavs have taken over...

The Lucky One

03-20-2007, 11:06 AM

This coming from the most overweight country on the planet... :D

%*&$ those gaspoles... when I become President, every Walmart will be simultaneously launched into orbit, eliminating the overweight problem in an instant. The thin people who remain will shop at Target. :cool:

-D