How will there be new mutants?

[Leaper Queen]

We now all know there are about 200 mutants left and no new ones have been born.

Question is, how will Marvel change this?

[twilight]

When a mommy mutant and a daddy mutant love each other very much they do a special dance and a stork comes and drops a baby mutant down the chimney.

[ToxicTeen]

I have no idea on how mutants will return to the Marvel Universe. I really wish those Marvel guys thought about that when they decided to get rid of 99% of all mutants. :(

[Beast]

I have no idea on how mutants will return to the Marvel Universe. I really wish those Marvel guys thought about that when they decided to get rid of 99% of all mutants. :(
They did. It's not like they reduced the numbers willy nilly.

[Stephane Garrelie]

heh! didn't saw "undone in some rediculous way". Thats why i voted "Wanda more mutants" :p :D

[twilight]

They did. It's not like they reduced the numbers willy nilly.

Yeah,they just depowered all the shitty one note characters and left almost everyone on the X-Men and their satellite teams completely untouched.

[The Fury]

No, there will never be new mutants but that doesn't mean we won't get a new character with mutant powers again.

Just look at the craptactular Johnny Dee, he was established after Decimation.

198 was a guestimate and there were only 130 or so confirmed. So there is a gap of 60 to play with.

[The Fury]

Yeah,they just depowered all the shitty one note characters and left almost everyone on the X-Men and their satellite teams completely untouched.

Chamber and Jubilee?

But otherwise you are right, the whole thing was a wash, bepowered crappy ones to leave the X-men only. In the Aftermath book, Claremont had Bishop admit there were X-men casulties also...those were at the time, Iceman...but he got those power back.

[twilight]

Chamber and Jubilee?

Chamber: Former Generation X-er who was in limbo at the time of M-Day

Jubilee: Former Generation X-er who was in limbo at the time of M-Day

[The Fury]

Chamber: Former Generation X-er who was in limbo at the time of M-Day

Jubilee: Former Generation X-er who was in limbo at the time of M-Day
Yes, but noticed how they are 2 characters that are 500% cooler then any New X-men character.

Stupid Marvel...now look what we have.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/ChamberImage.jpg

:(

[twilight]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/ChamberImage.jpg


"I want them this big!"

[Joe Acro]

Well, at the X-Panel, they said something about new mutants being able to be born. I don't know how that will happen, but I'm certain it's not one of those listed.

[The Fury]

Well, at the X-Panel, they said something about new mutants being able to be born. I don't know how that will happen, but I'm certain it's not one of those listed.

Maybe, it's along these lines.

When Wanda did her stuff, Dr Stranges counter spell saved 1% (or less...) out of the millions.... so out of the millions of potentials, 1% was also saved.

[Joe Acro]

When Wanda did her stuff, Dr Stranges counter spell saved 1% (or less...) out of the millions.... so out of the millions of potentials, 1% was also saved.That explains the mutants we have now, not the potential for more.

[bounusball75]

I would love to see beast come up with something to save the mutants from extinction but, I doubt we will get a happy salvation. I'm sure it will come at a price. It would be more along the lines of something bad happening to get things going.

[trickster]

When a mommy mutant and a daddy mutant love each other very much they do a special dance and a stork comes and drops a baby mutant down the chimney.
Damn. Talk about inbreeding!

[Zombienorthstar]

Wanda will say sorry, give all their powers back and then to make up for it she'll say 'No More Mucus'. People the worldover rejoice and Kleenex violently weep.

[Faded]

I honestly am not too concerned with no more mutant births. I think that's a better plot point that Decimation, actually.

[We R. Venom]

Well since Wanda messed everything up. I hoped Magneto, Quicksilver and Polaris would make everything better again.

[Omega Alpha]

The "no more mutants will be born" is a lot of bull, of course there will be mutants borning, they're just saying that it won't to promote the event.

[Matthew K.]

When a mommy mutant and a daddy mutant love each other very much they do a special dance and a stork comes and drops a baby mutant down the chimney.

aww...that's how Molly was born :)

[Beast]

The "no more mutants will be born" is a lot of bull, of course there will be mutants borning, they're just saying that it won't to promote the event.
Read the interviews and re-read the annual. It's not bull or hype.

[xakko]

Read the interviews and re-read the annual. It's not bull or hype.

oh, it's hype all right. hype for HoM, hype for "Endangered Species", hype for the upcoming crossover. that doesn't mean it isn't the status quo in the current Marvel Universe

does anyone expect that there will never be another mutant born in the Marvel Universe? it's probably a major plot point to the crossover to finally get the genie back in the bottle and get things "as they were". I wouldn't be surprised to find the last issue of the crossover ends with a pregnancy

[Omega Alpha]

does anyone expect that there will never be another mutant born in the Marvel Universe? it's probably a major plot point to the crossover to finally get the genie back in the bottle and get things "as they were". I wouldn't be surprised to find the last issue of the crossover ends with a pregnancy

That's what i'm talking about. It doesn't make sense for no mutants ever be born again, and to say they never will is bull. It is certainly only a matter of time before one does.

[Beast]

Oh, I'm sure that's the plan. But as Mike Carey said, there's a point where a species reaches an extinction point and no matter how much breeding is done, there's no way of saving it. Because it will require too much in-breeding eventually to keep the species strong. And the mutant population is far below that cut-off number.

[Hi-Fi]

does anyone expect that there will never be another mutant born in the Marvel Universe? it's probably a major plot point to the crossover to finally get the genie back in the bottle and get things "as they were". I wouldn't be surprised to find the last issue of the crossover ends with a pregnancy

That's what i'm talking about. It doesn't make sense for no mutants ever be born again, and to say they never will is bull. It is certainly only a matter of time before one does.

Read this:
Some readers wonder if two mutants could still give birth to another—such as Cyclops, the X-Man who seems to have lots of mutie kids from other realities— and while another Summers hellion might be cool, Carey said not to expect anything. "There's no guarantee. Human genetics is a lot more complicated than Mendel's model (which I think was based on the flowering pea), and it's often very hard to know in advance which genes are going to be expressed in any one child, even if you know the complete genomes of both parents.

"More importantly, though, there's a little-known fact about "red-line taxa" - the environmentalists' term for endangered species. Once they die out past a certain point, it's not just a numbers game any more. Even if all the surviving members of the species start reproducing like mad, there isn't enough diversity left in the gene pool to resurrect the species. Their decline has become irrevocable. Well, two hundred is way past that point.

"Of course, in the case of human mutants, you could in the past rely on a certain number of mutant children being born to human parents. But Wanda's 'no more mutants' edict has suppressed that. It's not going to happen. Homo superior has hit the wall."

[Beast]

Exactly, Hi-Fi. Thanks for grabbing that... I was just headed to get it myself. :)

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Don't worry about it..Sinister is working on the situation and as always, he will GET HIS WAY again.

[Omega Alpha]

Read this:

OK, but that still doesn't mean that no mutants will ever be born. The question is if there will be enough mutants to prevent the race from being extinct.

Don't worry about it..Sinister is working on the situation and as always, he will GET HIS WAY again.

Oh, yeah!:)

[xakko]

Read this:

that doesn't invalidate my point - that given the people interested in resurrecting the X-gene, eventually there will be mutant children again, and that this may be part of the upcoming crossover.

i agreed with Beast that the above was the status quo.

and if the Celestials come back to see what the hell happened to their experiment, if Franklin Richards attains his full power again, if Mr. Sinister or the High Evolutionary or Apocalypse or even Magneto decides to truly focus on the problem, that it can't be reversed.

[ToxicTeen]

I just have this feeling that there won't be any new mutants ever...:( (But I dunno what'll happen next in the X-Men universe)

[Beast]

I just have this feeling that there won't be any new mutants ever...:( (But I dunno what'll happen next in the X-Men universe)
Yeah, isn't it great that the X-Books are unpredictable again. :D

[Omega Alpha]

I just have this feeling that there won't be any new mutants ever...:(

No offense, but you're extremely naive, to say the least. Mutants will continue to appear as always, any time a writer wants.

[jarrod]

Some readers wonder if two mutants could still give birth to another—such as Cyclops, the X-Man who seems to have lots of mutie kids from other realities— and while another Summers hellion might be cool, Carey said not to expect anything. "There's no guarantee. Human genetics is a lot more complicated than Mendel's model (which I think was based on the flowering pea), and it's often very hard to know in advance which genes are going to be expressed in any one child, even if you know the complete genomes of both parents.

"More importantly, though, there's a little-known fact about "red-line taxa" - the environmentalists' term for endangered species. Once they die out past a certain point, it's not just a numbers game any more. Even if all the surviving members of the species start reproducing like mad, there isn't enough diversity left in the gene pool to resurrect the species. Their decline has become irrevocable. Well, two hundred is way past that point.

"Of course, in the case of human mutants, you could in the past rely on a certain number of mutant children being born to human parents. But Wanda's 'no more mutants' edict has suppressed that. It's not going to happen. Homo superior has hit the wall."
Uh, but what's keeping mutants from breeding with baselins humans or other species like the Shi'ar, Atlanteans, Inhumans, Skrulls, etc? Not to say the offspring would definitely be mutants (Luna's a good example), but it's not like mutants need only breed with each other to pass along the X-gene....

[Beast]

No offense, but you're extremely naive, to say the least. Mutants will continue to appear as always, any time a writer wants.
No. Writers arn't allowed to create new mutants without permission.

They have to use the established 190-something.

[caney]

I think they'll all find Wanda and beat the mutants out of her!!! :evilangry

[Beast]

Uh, but what's keeping mutants from breeding with baselins humans or other species like the Shi'ar, Atlanteans, Inhumans, Skrulls, etc? Not to say the offspring would definitely be mutants (Luna's a good example), but it's not like mutants need only breed with each other to pass along the X-gene....
"There's no guarantee. Human genetics is a lot more complicated than Mendel's model (which I think was based on the flowering pea), and it's often very hard to know in advance which genes are going to be expressed in any one child, even if you know the complete genomes of both parents."

Remeber, a mutant having children isn't always going to result in mutant children.

Look at Sabretooth and Mystique's kid, Graydon Creed. He was born X-Gene inactive.

[xakko]

No. Writers arn't allowed to create new mutants without permission.

They have to use the established 190-something.

permanently?

i'm sorry, but Joey Q won't be there forever. and for my money, the sooner he's gone, the better, and we then can look forward to good stories and not tentpoles. and Jean.

how much are you willing to bet that at some point in our lifetime, a new mutant will be born into the 616 Universe?

[Omega Alpha]

No. Writers arn't allowed to create new mutants without permission.

They have to use the established 190-something.

No, they still can create any character they want. Everyone's favorite Johnny Dee, for example, was created only before Decimation, same as Mr M, and since the 198 files did not gave the names of all characters who are still powered, there's still plenty of room for that. You can still see dozens of mutants showing up whenever a writer wants one.

[Beast]

No, they still can create any character they want. Everyone's favorite Johnny Dee, for example, was created only before Decimation, same as Mr M, and since the 198 files did not gave the names of all characters who are still powered, there's still plenty of room for that. You can still see dozens of mutants showing up whenever a writer wants one.
With permission, yes. But there isn't that many that haven't been established.

[jarrod]

"There's no guarantee. Human genetics is a lot more complicated than Mendel's model (which I think was based on the flowering pea), and it's often very hard to know in advance which genes are going to be expressed in any one child, even if you know the complete genomes of both parents."

Remeber, a mutant having children isn't always going to result in mutant children.

Look at Sabretooth and Mystique's kid, Graydon Creed. He was born X-Gene inactive.
Sure, I already acknowledged as much... but the idea that mutants' potential breeding pool is limited to 198 or so is quite a bit off the mark. Two mutants certainly raises odds, but mutants can breed with more than just other mutants.

[Pro]

I have such mixed feelings about the whole no more mutants thing ..

It's an interesting situation which is sure to spark off morally grey stories and makes any mutant death more significant. On the other hand i never felt there were too many mutants. 16 million is a drop of water in an ocean when it comes to global population numbers. i really liked the idea of mutants actually establishing themselves as a credible next step in evolution like they were supposed to be and the effect their growing numbers had on how humanity reacted to them.
The idea some seem to have about HOM putting the genie back in the bottle is nonsense in my opinion. In the current situation mutants are not the next step in human evolution, they are no threat to humanity's rule over the planet. All that's left is a bunch of freaks who happen to have a gene in common, not a mutant race. What HOM did was kill the genie dead.

[Beast]

I have such mixed feelings about the whole no more mutants thing ..

It's an interesting situation which is sure to spark off morally grey stories and makes any mutant death more significant. On the other hand i never felt there were too many mutants. 16 million is a drop of water in an ocean when it comes to global population numbers. i really liked the idea of mutants actually establishing themselves as a credible next step in evolution like they were supposed to be and the effect their growing numbers had on how humanity reacted to them.
The idea some seem to have about HOM putting the genie back in the bottle is nonsense in my opinion. In the current situation mutants are not the next step in human evolution, they are no threat to humanity's rule over the planet. All that's left is a bunch of freaks who happen to have a gene in common, not a mutant race. What HOM did was kill the genie dead.
It's not a drop in the water of the ocean when you're talking about characters with super powers. Even with just 16 million, it's a bit silly to think that mutants wouldn't be officially recognized as a minority. Why would the Avengers or FF be needed, with a huge swarm of mutants who could be heroes. Not to mention what is the X-Men's mission statement with a massive minority of mutants who don't need their help. Yeah, there really isn't one. Hence why the need to pull the rug out from under the mutant numbers and really reboot things to a time when it was dangerous for mutants and mutants were actually special.

It's not nonsense given how all the writers seem to like the new status quo a lot better than the old one. Pretty much each one of the current X-Book writers have chimed in with exactly the same comments. That there was nothing special about the X-Men anymore. They were a few mutants in an overwelming sea of mutants. Many with lame and uncreative powers like having five nostrils. Exactly, all that's left is a bunch of freaks. Just like the old days. United by the fact that they share the X-Gene in a world who hates and fears them.

[xakko]

Hence why the need to pull the rug out from under the mutant numbers and really reboot things to a time when it was dangerous for mutants and mutants were actually special.
but mutants are no longer special.

they aren't any different from any other subset of superpowered individuals, because, currently, there isn't going to be any more of them. so they'll all be registered by the SHRA or incarcerated. there is no reason for humanity to hate and fear them any more than any other superhuman.

this invalidates the X-men's core purpose as much as anything

which reminds me - when do the X-men have to undergo their SHIELD training and get assigned to the 50 states initiative?

[Faded]

It's not a drop in the water of the ocean when you're talking about characters with super powers. Even with just 16 million, it's a bit silly to think that mutants wouldn't be officially recognized as a minority. Why would the Avengers or FF be needed, with a huge swarm of mutants who could be heroes. Not to mention what is the X-Men's mission statement with a massive minority of mutants who don't need their help. Yeah, there really isn't one. Hence why the need to pull the rug out from under the mutant numbers and really reboot things to a time when it was dangerous for mutants and mutants were actually special.

It's not nonsense given how all the writers seem to like the new status quo a lot better than the old one. Pretty much each one of the current X-Book writers have chimed in with exactly the same comments. That there was nothing special about the X-Men anymore. They were a few mutants in an overwelming sea of mutants. Many with lame and uncreative powers like having five nostrils. Exactly, all that's left is a bunch of freaks. Just like the old days. United by the fact that they share the X-Gene in a world who hates and fears them.

Well all of those mutants wouldn't exactly be useful, helpful, heroic, or powerful. And apparently there are tons of SUPERHUMANS or superpower giving technology for people to join one of 50+ teams in the US alone (Initiative) or humans capable of being supplied powers (Champions). The landscape remained dangerous for them much like how one encounters danger on a daily basis in the real world--their world is ours but much worst.

And I'm sure the writers won't be slamming House of M in interviews if they want to stay good with the higher ups. I'm not debating that it isn't possible they all like it, but I don't really think its a point that can find validation.

Plus, there still are mutants with uncreative powers that are much less unique than five nostrils.

[Beast]

which reminds me - when do the X-men have to undergo their SHIELD training and get assigned to the 50 states initiative?
They don't. They're not effected as they fall under the jurisdiction of O*N*E.

[xakko]

They don't. They're not effected as they fall under the jurisdiction of O*N*E.

and how long before that program gets cut? billions of dollars for a worldwide population of roughly 200? when it would be duplicate effort to what the SHRA is doing? and when you consider the rate of failure of those Sentinels, it makes no bloody sense.

[Metallurgique]

Wanda will wave her hands up in the air, and the last two years of stories in the MU will be revealed to have been a bad dream, like a certain season of Dallas.

Then she will promptly die, so that nobody at Marvel can ever do anything so stupid ever again.

[Beast]

Wanda will wave her hands up in the air, and the last two years of stories in the MU will be revealed to have been a bad dream, like a certain season of Dallas.

Then she will promptly die, so that nobody at Marvel can ever do anything so stupid ever again.
I don't see it happening. Especially since the storylines and sales haven't been this good in ages.

[SensorBoy]

Given: It's the X-Gene that allows Mutants to do what they do.

Given: Depowered Mutants have had their X-Gene deleted (courtesy of Wanda).

Given: Non-Depowered Mutants have an intact and functioning X-Gene.

Theory: Short of another "Wanda Surprise", those Mutants with a working X-Gene should be able to pass it on to their offspring.

Result: Given time, the Mutant population can breed back. Since the X-Gene arose out of the baseline homo sapiens population (indicating that the X-Gen is Dominant), even heavy hybridization between sapiens and superior (due to the small Mutant population) will result in a renewed pool of potential Mutants.

[Beast]

Given: It's the X-Gene that allows Mutants to do what they do.

Given: Depowered Mutants have had their X-Gene deleted (courtesy of Wanda).

Given: Non-Depowered Mutants have an intact and functioning X-Gene.

Theory: Short of another "Wanda Surprise", those Mutants with a working X-Gene should be able to pass it on to their offspring.

Result: Given time, the Mutant population can breed back. Since the X-Gene arose out of the baseline homo sapiens population (indicating that the X-Gen is Dominant), even heavy hybridization between sapiens and superior (due to the small Mutant population) will result in a renewed pool of potential Mutants.
Mike Carey's already addressed that. It's not really a plausable thing at this point. Even if the X-Men focused on nothing but breeding from this moment on, the gene pool isn't going to be diverse enough to save the species. Note that not even two mutant parents always spawns a mutant child.
Some readers wonder if two mutants could still give birth to another—such as Cyclops, the X-Man who seems to have lots of mutie kids from other realities— and while another Summers hellion might be cool, Carey said not to expect anything. "There's no guarantee. Human genetics is a lot more complicated than Mendel's model (which I think was based on the flowering pea), and it's often very hard to know in advance which genes are going to be expressed in any one child, even if you know the complete genomes of both parents.

"More importantly, though, there's a little-known fact about "red-line taxa" - the environmentalists' term for endangered species. Once they die out past a certain point, it's not just a numbers game any more. Even if all the surviving members of the species start reproducing like mad, there isn't enough diversity left in the gene pool to resurrect the species. Their decline has become irrevocable. Well, two hundred is way past that point.

"Of course, in the case of human mutants, you could in the past rely on a certain number of mutant children being born to human parents. But Wanda's 'no more mutants' edict has suppressed that. It's not going to happen. Homo superior has hit the wall."

[Titan76]

I don't see it happening. Especially since the storylines and sales haven't been this good in ages.
Astonishing is the only one selling high numbers every month. Take that out and the X-men were selling much better during Morrison's time.

As for the topic the mutants will get their powers back. Once Quesada is gone and takes his dump ideas with him someone else will come in wanting to be the one who does the next big shock event by giving the mutants back their powers. Not all of them may get back their powers but I think half of them will.

[Beast]

Astonishing is the only one selling high numbers every month. Take that out and the X-men were selling much better during Morrison's time.

As for the topic the mutants will get their powers back. Once Quesada is gone and takes his dump ideas with him someone else will come in wanting to be the one who does the next big shock event by giving the mutants back their powers. Not all of them may get back their powers but I think half of them will.
No. Because there's no point in repowering nameless and faceless mutants.

[Titan76]

No. Because there's no point in repowering nameless and faceless mutants.
Just like there was no point in Morrison making a mutant boom in the MU. Just because it seems there is no point in doing something from another's point of view doesn't mean it won't happen.

[Omega Alpha]

Just like there was no point in Morrison making a mutant boom in the MU.

Yes, there was a point.

[Titan76]

Yes, there was a point.
To some fans there wasn't.

[Beast]

Yes, there was a point.
Destroy the sliding timescale with an unrealistic boom of mutants?

Ensure that when you leave that the X-Men really have no purpose anymore?

[Jaykob]

Actually there hasn't been a single mutant birth since M-Day...

Read this: http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.374

[Siddon]

Hopefully it will be Quicksilver, I love the fact that Peter David has turned him basically into a herald having been able to go into the future see what really happens and have no effect on how to save them. I also also hope to see more of the inhuman element into Mutants and ET aspects .

[SensorBoy]

Mike Carey's already addressed that. It's not really a plausable thing at this point. Even if the X-Men focused on nothing but breeding from this moment on, the gene pool isn't going to be diverse enough to save the species. Note that not even two mutant parents always spawns a mutant child.


Except that Mutants are not a distinct species. They are an interfertile subspecies of h sapiens. If the X-Gene can pass from parent to offspring, post-HoM, then the X-Gene(+) breeding pool is recoverable.

I.e. breeding Mutant-Mutant or Mutant-Baseline (easier, due to larger selection of partners) will eventually spread the X-Gene out wide enough to kickstart the Mutant population. Exactly as occurred the first time.

[Omega Alpha]

Destroy the sliding timescale with an unrealistic boom of mutants?

Move the X-men forward for the first time in over 10 years? Show that the X-men are just not a bunch of very good looking people sitting down in a mansion doing nothing until someone attacks them or they go to space, but part of a bigger community? Show that mutantkind is not just not a bunch of very good looking people sitting down in a mansion doing nothing until someone attacks them or they go to space, which had never happened before?

And, again, it doesn't destroy the sliding timescale AT ALL. And they were 0,25 % of the population. 0,25%. Repeat after me: 0,25%. Now, go there try to convince anyone that any minority with 0,25% of the population can be called a minority and see what happpens.



Ensure that when you leave that the X-Men really have no purpose anymore?

How come the X-men did not have a purpose? Not only they could still do most of the same things they did before, like fighting villains and go to space, but now they were the face of mutantkind, were actually moving the dream forward, helping mutantkind to be more integrated with the rest of the world and being an example to mutants and humans, teaching the next generations not only or not even necessarily to be X-men or superheroes, but to be producitve citizens and integrated with the rest of the world, etc.

Now, there's quite simply no purpose to the X-men. There is no mutant community anymore, with the Initiative there will be enough superheroes to do their job, there are no more new students left, and there isn't even a purpose of having a school anymore, the X-men are pretty much as good as dead until the repowerement comes. And then they will be back to do the same things they did in the 90's. :rolleyes:

[Karthak]

Move the X-men forward for the first time in over 10 years?

I've collected and read a hell of alot of x-men books, so I can tell you that they didn't move forward for the first time in 10 years. They moved forward for the first time in over 25 years. I realized it after I had read every x-men comic published between 1978 and 1995: "OMG nothing has changed. It's just the same old, same old"(in my opinion).

[TinMan]

I vote other:

All of the grammar and spelling errors in the poll and intial post will cause a rip in time space. This rip will manifest itself as Mr. Sinister's butthole and instead of defecating, he will launch magical mutant gene carrying donuts from his anus. When ingested by a normal human being they will return the "X" gene to the human genetic sequence, thus continuing the mutant race.

To this end, Mr. Sinister will open a Krispy Kreme Donut stand in every Starbucks in the world in order to see his diabolical mechanations come to fruition.

[Leaper Queen]

I vote other:

All of the grammar and spelling errors in the poll and intial post will cause a rip in time space. This rip will manifest itself as Mr. Sinister's butthole and instead of defecating, he will launch magical mutant gene carrying donuts from his anus. When ingested by a normal human being they will return the "X" gene to the human genetic sequence, thus continuing the mutant race.

To this end, Mr. Sinister will open a Krispy Kreme Donut stand in every Starbucks in the world in order to see his diabolical mechanations come to fruition.


Please let a specialist check your brain, Wandy obviously did something with it.

[The M.E.]

i voted for ol sinny mcsinister. he's supposed to be big this year, and who better to hold the answers than a dna expert and pure badass.

[Citizen V]

Other,House Of M will be reconned somehow..someday.

[Kaos]

Yes, but noticed how they are 2 characters that are 500% cooler then any New X-men character.

Stupid Marvel...now look what we have.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/ChamberImage.jpg

:(

*dies a little inside*

I think, one day, Cyclops will yell "BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL"
and everyone will be repowered.

[Beast]

Other,House Of M will be reconned somehow..someday.
Won't happen. There's no reason to undo it.

[Titanium]

When I read about the Endangered Species one shot having to do with Beast trying to figure out how to fix things, I imagined a cliff hanger ending with beast's answer being "We need to find Mr. Sinister."

Because if anyone is going to bring back the mutant gene, it's Mr. Sinister. Not Beast, he's too busy. Sinister has probably dedicated himself completely to the problem since it arose.

I want to see a meeeting where Beast has to team up with Mr. Sinister, the High Evolutionary and Dark Beast to figure out what's happening.


Now Sinister and the High Evolutionary probably have samples of DNA from every mutant pre-HOM, just because they tend to do things like that. Quicksilver is leaking terrigen mist on people. Could Sinister be tempted to do an Earth X and use the terrigen mists to mutate everyone?

[xakko]

Won't happen. There's no reason to undo it.

i still say the "no more X-gene" aspect will eventually be undone. probably sooner rather than later. otherwise ONE exists as nothing by zoo keepers and mutants are just an oddity. the very threat that makes them hated evaporates.

how many times would they be able to mine Sinister/Exodus/Magneto/Apocalypse/Dark Beast/Beast/Xavier trying to bring back the X-gene for stories? that seems like it would get old fast.

[xgeek52]

let's face it...marvel screwed up with house of m...they took 40 plus years of backstory and they threw it in the toilet...

fix it, they will, make no mistake...but marvel did a injustice to the mutant universe when they created the house of m...

and the xbooks are worse for it...

[The Fury]

Toad will do it.

By accident. Just like he accidentily cause Xorneto. House of M and Decimation.

[Vaal]

Some mutant somewhere will be sitting around bummed (thier current permenant stat :rolleyes: ) and go, "jeez, I wish Wanda wasn't the only maic user or reality warp-- wait..." Then they Go unshackle Mad Jim Jaspers or Get Nico and the Staff of One on the case (I'm willing to bet Nico hasn't used the 'recon moronic event' setting yet) and fix this who stupid mess.

Then the X-men can get back to being the elite defenders of a minority in the face of a world that hates and fear them instead of a now completely disconnected (If the X-men & Friends are all the mutants left, their cause is gone) superheroes who are constantly confronted with thier own mortality in a decidedly non-heroic manner.

Then again, non-heroic seems to be the approach under Joe. Everyone seems to be getting dirty and wallowing in it, so maybe Hank will torture Alex to death before Scott's eye to get the cure, neh?

[Kirayoshi]

I figure that it'll be a collaboration between Hank McCoy, Sinister and maybe Kavita Rao; maybe the Hope cure will end up being a catalyst for the resergence of the X-Gene. Mutant births will then occur again in Marvel, but they will be rare. One out of every 10 million or so.

Without future mutants, the X-Men, ONE, and most of the X-Men's enemies have no real raison-d'etre. Why should the X-Men bother trying to establish a peaceful relationship with humans if the entire race will die within a generation? How can Magneto, Sinister or Apocalypse declare that mutantkind will dominate the future if mutants have no future?

Mutants should be rare, but not extinct. Without future mutants, the idea of mutants as metaphors for minorities/gays/disenfranchised teens/whatever kind of dies out.