X-Men: First Class Ongoing

[Brian M.]

X-Men First Class will relaunch in June as an ongoing series

So those of us who have been begging for an O5 ongoing again finally get our wish. It's not set in current contiunity but it's something. I couldn't be happier.

So for those that love this series...rejoice here.

[Madrox84]

Awesome news!

First Class has been a fun series. I'll have to pick up the ongoing... My wallet i gonna hate me.

[Beast]

Congrats, Jeff Parker!! Best news of the entire WWLA X-Men panel! :D

[Brian M.]

Yea Jeff Parker has done an amazing job with these characters. Wonder if the ongoing will be non-sequential like the mini-series was.

[Omega Alpha]

Yay! Great news!:)

[Brian M.]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10023

More info on First Class Ongoing.

[Beast]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10023

More info on First Class Ongoing.
Awesome. Sue mentoring Jean. Love it, love it, love it.

More stories focusing on individual members. Yay for this Beast fan! :D

[Maestro]

I'm happy if only for more Jean

[chickrockguitar]

I decided not to pick up this series, as it was only a Mini. I would have done if it was an ongoing. Now it is, I'll be picking it up, and will find the ones I've missed from this series on eBay!

Yay! I'm happy!

[killerbass]

Good news. On a good month, this is my favorite X-book...

While I am a guy who looks to the writer, I have to say that I love whoever it is that colors this book...

--Tom

[MIMIC616]

I hope the Mimic shows up soon.

[Beast]

I hope the Mimic shows up soon.
Not sure how possible that is. His story doesn't really have any insertion loopholes.

[Mikl C]

Hm. I'll see. They've got kinda lame.

[ibrakeforchinwe]

This is sooo gonna f#@! continuity.

[Beast]

This is sooo gonna f#@! continuity.
Not really. There's plenty of room for more stories set during the O5 days.

[hondobrode]

Good news, but how is this that different from John Byrne's X-Men : Hidden Years ?

Well, I guess that drives a stake through the heart of there being any possibile shred of an existence of Byrne ever doing anything for Marvel again, at least under Joey Q.

Still, I loved Agents of Atlas and this should be good.

[david r]

I'm waiting for Tessa's shocking debut as the *gasp*<God no!> @somebody save us!@ Original 6th member!!

[Beast]

Good news, but how is this that different from John Byrne's X-Men : Hidden Years ?

Well, I guess that drives a stake through the heart of there being any possibile shred of an existence of Byrne ever doing anything for Marvel again, at least under Joey Q.

Still, I loved Agents of Atlas and this should be good.
Because, X-Men: The Hidden Years picked up from the cancellation and was going to run up til what would have been Issue #93 of Uncanny X-Men. Where as this takes place at various points inbetween the original stories.

As for the stake, good. Like it was going to happen anway. Byrne has said for ages now that Marvel is dead to him. So another nail in the coffin of Byrne's mind isn't going to change anything that majorly.

[david r]

You're all aware that Jeff Parker actually is John Byrne, right?

[Beast]

I'm waiting for Tessa's shocking debut as the *gasp*<God no!> @somebody save us!@ Original 6th member!!
She'd be working with the Hellfire Club at the time. And none of the X-Men O5 members met her previously.

[Beast]

You're all aware that Jeff Parker actually is John Byrne, right?
Not possible, Jeff Parker actually has a charming and good natured personality.

[david r]

This series could really work. The early 60s comics were pretty chop-chop. This series could flesh it out a bit more.

Just think, we'd have the return of mad diabolical Magneto. Minus all the excess baggage done to him since. Plus, more Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.

[Michael Sean]

I'm glad this will be an ongoing series.

Its a little too light hearted for my tastes but the originals are my main favorites.

And of course this series has something that the other titles don't have right now-- Jean.

[Beast]

This series has a lot of things that others don't have right now.

Angel. Beast and Iceman shown as friends. The "Family" feel of the X-Men.

And it's missing one thing the other books have too much of. X-Angst.

[Michael Sean]

The originals mesh better with each other than they do with the rest of the characters, imho.

I do like the family feel with the originals. I really liked the original X-Men years and I loved X-Factor with the originals.

I only bought a few of the Hidden Years issues though and I haven't bought all of First Class but I have bought several of them. I guess I'm going to have to buy them regularly because its going to need all the support it can get.

So far from the issues that I have, Iceman seems to shine the most in First Class. Which is a good thing. Iceman and Angel seem to be the most underrated and neglected of the originals.

I wish the originals were together in current continuity though.

It seems like in Seagles run back in 1998 they were laying the groundwork to do something with the Originals again but it was just dropped.

They don't do enough with the originals together. I don't think we ever saw Iceman's reaction to Jean's death in Uncanny 137 or New 150, did we?

And I guess Beast and Iceman haven't had much interaction at all in recent times. Warren hasn't been handled all that well lately either.

[Beast]

And I guess Beast and Iceman haven't had much interaction at all in recent times. Warren hasn't been handled all that well lately either.
Given the last time we actually saw them interacting as friends was an issue of X-Men Unlimited, yeah... it's been a while. Still love that issue, Beast knocking on Bobby's door at the end of the story and remarking that he ate all of his favorite cereal. And then racing off with Bobby hot on his heels. Even when Bobby was in the medbay in Carey's X-Men, we really didn't see much. Another reason why Carey needs Beast.

[Hi-Fi]

Great news!!

And Jeff mentions Zelda as part of the cast!!! Awesomeness!!

[Beast]

Great news!!

And Jeff mentions Zelda as part of the cast!!! Awesomeness!!
Yeah, Jeff knows who butters his bread. The insane 05 fans here. :D

[Omega Alpha]

Good news, but how is this that different from John Byrne's X-Men : Hidden Years ?

Well, I guess that drives a stake through the heart of there being any possibile shred of an existence of Byrne ever doing anything for Marvel again, at least under Joey Q.


John Byrne's was set later, showing what happened in the gap between #66 and GSXM #1.

Anyway, this one is much better. Byrne was so worried about continuity that he forgot to add the fun and lightness that made the first series great in the first place.

[Frank]

I would probably pick this up if it was a different artist.

[UniqueFrequency]

Good news, but how is this that different from John Byrne's X-Men : Hidden Years ?


it's much better :D

anyway i'm REALLY glad to see an ongoing! hope many people buy it to make it a success

[Flameworthy]

I'll start buying this book when/if Lorna starts appearing, or if Sunfire makes an appearance.

[Affinity]

That's really good for the series and the concept as a whole. I'd love to see an Outback series or a Next Generation (I don't know what it's called, the introduction of Storm/Kurt/Logan/etc.) team mini and or ongoing. That's great that we can go back and live it all over again.

Parker is great. Is Cruz staying on, as well? That sounds good.

[hondobrode]

Yeah, Parker is great, but unfortunately, Cruz represents the absolute worst the mutants have ever looked IMO. That alone is enough to keep me from this. Why couldn't it have been anyone else illustrating ?

[caney]

I've liked the Roger Cruz art on First Class. I think he matches the lighter tone of the series perfectly.

[Beast]

I've liked the Roger Cruz art on First Class. I think he matches the lighter tone of the series perfectly.
Bingo. He's a great match for the book.

[Volk1]

I'll start buying this book when/if Lorna starts appearing, or if Sunfire makes an appearance.lol. I'm feeling the same way...Although I don't think they'd ever write the All New All Different team in it unless it was the series finale...

As for Polaris, definitely would pick up that issue:)

But then we'd have to get some Alexis Summers panel time which sukx. :(

[We R. Venom]

I actually really love this. Since you know I wasnt even born until the 80's lol. I hope the writer can make great stories while staying within continuity...well only a little. Not that i'd be able to tell the difference. Trades here I come!

[Flameworthy]

lol. I'm feeling the same way...Although I don't think they'd ever write the All New All Different team in it unless it was the series finale...


Sunfire doesn't have to show as part of that team. They can make him a "villain" and have him guest star like in his first appearance.


But then we'd have to get some Alexis Summers panel time which sukx. :(

Yeah, I know.:( Since it's not in current continuity maybe she stays with Bobby instead of choosing Alex.

[ProfeZZor X]

Flabergasted!!!! :D

...Even if his stories were "Bobby-lite", I'd still follow Parker to the ends of the earth. This is great news.

[Hi-Fi]

I wasn't a fan of Cruz art before this as well. But it looks like he finally found himself with this book. The art marries pretty good with the writing.


And then there's Zelda.

[jarrod]

The originals mesh better with each other than they do with the rest of the characters, imho.
Actually, I've always felt Hank and Jean (especially) meshed pretty well with the second generation team and later X-Men lineups. Bobby's wonderful in X-Men currently too.

Despite leading the second team for quite awhile though, I always felt Scott didn't really fit well with them. He always seemed strangely apart from the team, in a way he didn't when leading the O5. Warren doesn't seem to really fit well anywhere but the O5 though imo.


It seems like in Seagles run back in 1998 they were laying the groundwork to do something with the Originals again but it was just dropped.
It was just for one storyline, Seagle and Kelly planned to split them afterward (Scott and Jean leading the "heavy hitter" Uncanny team, Hank leading the "junior" team in X-Men, which Bobby would be a part of... Warren was going to be written out and Jean was going to become Phoenix again and get pregnant with Rachel).

[ProfeZZor X]

I wasn't a fan of Cruz art before this as well. But it looks like he finally found himself with this book. The art marries pretty good with the writing.


And then there's Zelda.

...And I couldn't be even more happier that he can now extend his stories for more than one issue. Because some of them seemed short enough as it is. Like he was saying about the Thor issue. But if anyone can pull off a good cliffhanger, it's Parker.... and Carey.

[Brett P]

I'm another who really doesn't like the art - especially Bobbly Bobby. I've found a couple issues good but mostly it's all just kinda...weird, too child like mostly. I can't get into it. Seeing out the mini but won't be jumping on the ongoing.

[rilokyle]

I wonder if Lorna and Alex will make any appearences down the line? That'd be sick.

[We R. Venom]

I wonder if Lorna and Alex will make any appearences down the line? That'd be sick.

I was just thinking that. As well as other characters. But them first. Mostly Havok. I dont really like Lorna anymore.

[xgeek52]

i'm happy but not overly surprised...

first class is a success...why wouldn't the powers continue...

*does the snoopy dance*

[Mister Mets]

Good news, but how is this that different from John Byrne's X-Men : Hidden Years ?

Well, I guess that drives a stake through the heart of there being any possibile shred of an existence of Byrne ever doing anything for Marvel again, at least under Joey Q.

Still, I loved Agents of Atlas and this should be good.
I can understand why this ongoing would piss off Byrne, and his message board, but I doubt that relations between Byrne, and Marvel would be otherwise better off.

Granted, there are some key differences.
The industry (especially Marvel) is in a healthier place now than it was when hidden years got the axe. The X-franchise is going strong, and all the books are well defined (Hidden Years got cancelled right before the Morrison relaunch.)

Expectations were lower for "First Class" then 'Hidden Years'

It's pretty obvious that Jeff Parker, and Roger Cruz will go on to bigger and better (ie- top-selling stuff) in the future. It's very rare that Marvel's got the opportunity to put up and coming creators on a solid performer, allowing them to build their name recognition/ fan bases.

There's limited negative buzz about either creator, whereas there are many people who won't buy anything Byrne does because of the stupid stuff he says on his website.

And giving Byrne "Hidden Years" won't prevent him from dissing other MArvel books, leading to negative buzz/ publicity. I don't think we've had that problem from Parker/ Cruz.

[Affinity]

Bryne is upset about First Class? I haven't heard that.

Queens NY holllllller, lol.

[Brian M.]

Bryne is upset about First Class? I haven't heard that.

Queens NY holllllller, lol.


It's a different book than his, don't know why he'd get mad unless he's that petty.

Hidden Years timeframe is: Uncanny #67-93
First Class timeframe is: Uncanny #1-66

[Flight]

I dont really like Lorna anymore. Good, because she was bitchin' bout you the other day too.

When will 1-8 of the limited series be released as a TPB? My LCS only has from 3 onwards and I want to get into this series now.

[We R. Venom]

Good, because she was bitchin' bout you the other day too.

When will 1-8 of the limited series be released as a TPB? My LCS only has from 3 onwards and I want to get into this series now.

Hey it doesnt mean my mind can't chance again in the future.

And I would like to know that as well.

[Beast]

Good, because she was bitchin' bout you the other day too.

When will 1-8 of the limited series be released as a TPB? My LCS only has from 3 onwards and I want to get into this series now.
The Hardcover of 1-8 was in the June solicits. Coming out a month earlier than originally teased. :)

[chickrockguitar]

I'd like to see Storm and Kurt and a very young Kitty added to the team.

Who originally came after the five?

[Beast]

I'd like to see Storm and Kurt and a very young Kitty added to the team.

Who originally came after the five?
None of those would really work though. The O5 X-Men first met Storm in the X-Men: The Hidden Years series. And Kurt or Kitty never met the O5 team members before. It would cause some problematic retcons.

[Brian M.]

I'd like to see Storm and Kurt and a very young Kitty added to the team.

Who originally came after the five?

Then it wouldn't be the O5 hidden stories would it?

[chickrockguitar]

None of those would really work though. The O5 X-Men first met Storm in the X-Men: The Hidden Years series. And Kurt or Kitty never met the O5 team members before. It would cause some problematic retcons.Ah right. Damn! I would have loved to see them appear. I wasn't born until the mid 80's so... forgive me. :)

[Mister Mets]

Bryne is upset about First Class? I haven't heard that.

Queens NY holllllller, lol.
There's a thread about it on his website.
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17534&PN=3&totPosts=153

From what I understand, he was upset when Hidden Years was canceled (especially since he had been pitching it for decades). And it doesn't help that First Class has some of the "flaws" (mid-level sales, it's set in the past so readers may not be as invested in what happens to the characters, it's another x-Men title when we already have four, etc.)

[Brian M.]

There's a thread about it on his website.
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17534&PN=3&totPosts=153

From what I understand, he was upset when Hidden Years was canceled (especially since he had been pitching it for decades). And it doesn't help that First Class has some of the "flaws" (mid-level sales, it's set in the past so readers may not be as invested in what happens to the characters, it's another x-Men title when we already have four, etc.)

Sucks for him.

[Beast]

There's a thread about it on his website.
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17534&PN=3&totPosts=153

From what I understand, he was upset when Hidden Years was canceled (especially since he had been pitching it for decades). And it doesn't help that First Class has some of the "flaws" (mid-level sales, it's set in the past so readers may not be as invested in what happens to the characters, it's another x-Men title when we already have four, etc.)
It's so cute how John Byrne's little robots are decryine the series.

This from ole John Byrne himself is amusing as sin...
Of course, X-Men message boards are positively on fire with fan's complaints about the violations of continuity inherent in this series, and how the uniforms are not correct.

They're not??
A little fudging of continuity to tell good entertaining stories is not a bad thing.

Especially when some of the minor continuity issues are so small, they make a mouse fart look huge. :p

[Frodo-X]

It's so cute how John Byrne's little robots are decryine the series.

This from ole John Byrne himself is amusing as sin...

A little fudging of continuity to tell good entertaining stories is not a bad thing.

Especially when some of the minor continuity issues are so small, they make a mouse fart look huge. :p
Splinter broke wind?!


(Yes, I know, he's a rat, not a mouse...It's a joke, people, go with it!!)

[Beast]

Gotta love ole Jeff Parker, trying to educate people. :)
Hi everyone, I just registered but can't post for another 24 hours, so thanks to Steve for passing this along. Someone just wrote me that this discussion was going on, and after reading through I think I can clear some sticky points up. Though always remember, I just write First Class, I don't call any shots!

The main one relates to all the Quesada commentary- the Editor in Chief doesn't create and approve every single title Marvel puts out, there's just too many and I don't think anyone could. And in our case, as I understand it, this book was pioneered largely by Sales VP David Gabriel, who thought it would work not only as a Direct Market book, but an All Ages title that he could sell out in the world of the big chain stores like Target, WalMart and so on. So while it may not look like more than an average seller in your comics shop, it's also doing well in other venues, hence it being turned into an ongoing title.

So while I understand readers being upset at losing Hidden Years, there's not really a target to vent upon in this case. I was under the impression that Jemas cancelled the book, but I have no real information one way or the other. Our book takes place before HY's stories, so our storylines won't connect. Which is too bad for me, because setting a lot of the stories in the Savage Land was a great move.

As to the costume change: that was decided somewhere up top, and I don't know the rationale though I do like the costumes, and they cue people that the stories are new rather than rewrites. I just explained in one of the issues that they were alternate uniforms.

I hope that helps a bit, thanks for letting me chime in.

Jeff Parker
http://parkerspace.com

[Brian M.]

Gotta love ole Jeff Parker, trying to educate people. :)

He's got a little more class than Byrne...just a little though lol.

[Beast]

He's got a little more class than Byrne...just a little though lol.
Only a little? Poor Jeff Parker. You think so little of him. :(

[Slung]

If you read those endless pages of John Byrne fans complaining, you'll see even Byrne has graced us with his time to leave snarky comments for Jeff Parker.

(BYRNE TO PARKER) Word to the wise -- if you plan to make a habit of posting here, you might want to try to avoid using this phrase in discussions where someone does have "real information". Especially if that someone happens to be me.

I can't believe Byrne is still so bitter about the cancellation of HY - who peed in his coffee? If this man wasn't a "revered" and "beloved" celebrity of the industry, he would be banned in every message board for being such a egotistical troll.

[Mister Mets]

If you read those endless pages of John Byrne fans complaining, you'll see even Byrne has graced us with his time to leave snarky comments for Jeff Parker.



I can't believe Byrne is still so bitter about the cancellation of HY - who peed in his coffee? If this man wasn't a "revered" and "beloved" celebrity of the industry, he would be banned in every message board for being such a egotistical troll.
Byrne has a few legitimate reasons to be pissed off about the cancellation of "Hidden Years." It was a project he had been pitching for decades (the first time he pitched it he was told by Tom Defalco that it would be a bad idea for Marvel to publish more than one X-book) and it was a rare success amongst many many recent failures (his Amazing Spider-Man reboot, Chapter One, The Lost Generation, the Hulk, Lab Rats, Doom Patrol, Blood of the Demon all. His only other recent successes were a brief Action Comics run, six issues of JLA, and a few issues of Atom.)

On the other hand, it's wrong of him to be bitter about Parker's success.

And I have much love for any writer who pits the X-men VS The Lizard. :D

[Beast]

Not to mention Byrne bitches about the book not fitting into continuity. A lot of stuff he's done has outright contradicted continuity. Such as some of the stuff that Cyberman just mentioned.

[caney]

Marvel's got some preview stuff for the X-Men: First Class Special at their website. Here's the link:

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.1018

[Beast]

Marvel's got some preview stuff for the X-Men: First Class Special at their website. Here's the link:

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.1018
Thanks. You're a doll. Take a Twinkie out of Petty cash. :D

[Beast]

Dragon Man as a member of the X-Men? Take that Lockheed! :)

And a Beast and Iceman team-up story? Even more awesome!! :D

[Hi-Fi]

Looks fun! Mike Allred is KING!

[caney]

And a Beast and Iceman team-up story? Even more awesome!! :D

It looks very Scooby-Dooesque!!! :)

[Novaya Havoc]

I'm waiting for Tessa's shocking debut as the *gasp*<God no!> @somebody save us!@ Original 6th member!!

Ha! I'll pee. I want some retro Sage outfits.

What will she interface with back in the 60s? I'd love to see her wheeling one of these around:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Colossus.jpg/300px-Colossus.jpg

[Beast]

It looks very Scooby-Dooesque!!! :)
Old Man Jenkins! :cool:

[Novaya Havoc]

I would love to see this in X-Men: First Class--

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/misc/computercart.jpg

[Brian M.]

Awesome!!!!

Caney I love you.

[Beast]

According to Jeff Parker over on his blog about the Dragon Man story, Kitty Pryde appears in the special.

So I'm guessing that the Special features the remaining 05 team telling stories of past adventures.

[Brian M.]

According to Jeff Parker over on his blog about the Dragon Man story, Kitty Pryde appears in the special.

So I'm guessing that the Special features the remaining 05 team telling stories of past adventures.

...if that is the case...I mean wow...I'll love that.

[Beast]

...if that is the case...I mean wow...I'll love that.
Considering it's an idea we had a year or more ago, so will I.

Remember, we talked about a book featuring the remaining 05 team telling stories. I think we had Rachel cast though as one of the people, since she wanted to know more about her mom. :)

[Brian M.]

Considering it's an idea we had a year or more ago, so will I.

Remember, we talked about a book featuring the remaining 05 team telling stories. I think we had Rachel cast though as one of the people, since she wanted to know more about her mom. :)

Well I've always said I want to see the O5 sitting around table telling stories...remembering...reflecting for #500 of Uncanny. If Jean can't come back Rachel would be cool.

If she comes back from space, after all is said and done with the Morlocks and maybe the crossover. I could see Scott and Hank going out for a drink and Bobby and Warren tagging along and them seeing Rachel along the way. I gotta stop.

[caney]

I would love to see this in X-Men: First Class--


LOL Novaya!!!

[Novaya Havoc]

LOL Novaya!!!

;)

X-MEN FIRST CLASS TO INCLUDE SAGE AS ORIGINAL MEMBER AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!! (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=3553674&posted=1#post3553674)

ps: I truly love First Class and hope it does really well! I just took an idea and ran with it.

[Brian M.]

;)

X-MEN FIRST CLASS TO INCLUDE SAGE AS ORIGINAL MEMBER AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!! (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=3553674&posted=1#post3553674)

ps: I truly love First Class and hope it does really well! I just took an idea and ran with it.

That would be funny as hell.

I could see Jean getting all excited for a female member and than Bobby walking in asking if this is the new Cebero.

[Beast]

It wouldn't work though. Sage would steal Bobby's title as the "Ice Queen". ;) :D

[Novaya Havoc]

That would be funny as hell.

I could see Jean getting all excited for a female member and than Bobby walking in asking if this is the new Cebero.

I picture Tessie-Jo (tm: Bakla) as the Jan Brady. "Jean, Jean JEAN." Ha! I'd love it! It would be First Class comedy gold! I hate Sage with a burning fire, but I would loooove to see Tessie-Jo in First Class. I'd buy a bzillion copies.

It wouldn't work though. Sage would steal Bobby's title as the "Ice Queen". ;) :D

Nah -- this is PRE-SAGE. Before the Claremontization when she astrally shoots Shadow King in his astral face on the astral plane with her astal shotgun in astral afghani super-soldier gear. She's bitter, unpopular, and has those retro-60's wing-glasses that she will eventually transform into CYBERSHADES.

It'd be 100x comedy gold.

[Gene M.]

If First Class was a real live human guy, I'd totally go gay for him. I love this book that much.

[DDM]

Nah -- this is PRE-SAGE. Before the Claremontization when she astrally shoots Shadow King in his astral face on the astral plane with her astal shotgun in astral afghani super-soldier gear. She's bitter, unpopular, and has those retro-60's wing-glasses that she will eventually transform into CYBERSHADES.

It'd be 100x comedy gold.

According to X-Treme X-Men, Charles Xavier trained Sage separately & simultaneously when he founded the original X-Men. Therefore, when Xavier is not present with the team, he might be with Sage training her to his spy. Later, he sent Sage to be with Sebastian Shaw & eventually among the Hellfire Club's Inner Circle.

[Novaya Havoc]

Jeff Parker does not love Tessie-Jo. :(

From Newsarama Forums:


I guess that was clearly supposed to be a joke, but it probably should have been posted on April 1st. I can't imagine any scenarios where Sage would appear in XFC.

:(

Why must everyone love that Marvel Girl over our Tessie?

[Brian M.]

Jeff Parker does not love Tessie-Jo. :(

From Newsarama Forums:



:(

Why must everyone love that Marvel Girl over our Tessie?

Yea...when I think of the perfect woman...I wnat a stone cold bitch with a calculating mind and horrible dress.

:)

[bakla]

Jeff Parker does not love Tessie-Jo. :(

From Newsarama Forums:



:(

Why must everyone love that Marvel Girl over our Tessie?
Especially when she had such a hard life growing up. But how does this all fit in with her original origin?!? (http://designcanteen.com/tessa) :D

[blinkinrogue]

dunno if there have been previews yet....

http://comics.ign.com/articles/782/782562p1.html

[Brian M.]

dunno if there have been previews yet....

http://comics.ign.com/articles/782/782562p1.html

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

[Beast]

dunno if there have been previews yet....

http://comics.ign.com/articles/782/782562p1.html
Sweet. This series is such love. Can't wait for wednesday. :)

[Brian M.]

Sweet. This series is such love. Can't wait for wednesday. :)

I loved Hanks line to Scott on page 6: "Perfection is elusive..."

Awesome. Xavier's comments about Iceman in the yearbook page "Bobby seems to get younger by the day..."

I wuv tis book.

[Phil Hunn]

Words cannot express how much I love this series. The closest approximation I'd be able to reach is this: I love it as much as I love ninjas, zombies and giant robots.

Which is a lot.

I love the essential whimsy of it all, and the lovely way it harks back to a time when comics featured one complete story, instead of one chunk of a crossover or an arc tailored for a trade paperback. It's like Stan Lee never left, almost.

It's a wonderful, nostalgic read, and I'm glad it got upgraded into an ongoing series. It really deserves it.

[Beast]

I loved Hanks line to Scott on page 6: "Perfection is elusive..."

Awesome. Xavier's comments about Iceman in the yearbook page "Bobby seems to get younger by the day..."

I wuv tis book.
Yeah, great stuff. I'm really looking forward to a Beast/Iceman story though. At least we get one in the Special.

[Brian M.]

Yeah, great stuff. I'm really looking forward to a Beast/Iceman story though. At least we get one in the Special.

While Jeff has kept Scott and Jean romance to a bare minimum you can still it there. I liked how he was right by her side after the dream and at the kitchen table. Still...issue #2 beach scene was my favorite.

[Beast]

While Jeff has kept Scott and Jean romance to a bare minimum you can still it there. I liked how he was right by her side after the dream and at the kitchen table. Still...issue #2 beach scene was my favorite.
Especially Xavier removing the obstacle of Scott/Jean spending time together. Iceman. ;)

[Brian M.]

Especially Xavier removing the obstacle of Scott/Jean spending time together. Iceman. ;)

That was pretty funny.

[MacLeod]

Seeing that preview link just makes me wish they'd bring Jean back already.

When she's well written, she's a hell of a lot more likeable than Emma Frost.

[Beast]

Seeing that preview link just makes me wish they'd bring Jean back already.

When she's well written, she's a hell of a lot more likeable than Emma Frost.
A mop is more likeable than Emma Frost. Many inanimate objects are. ;)

[Brian M.]

A mop is more likeable than Emma Frost. Many inanimate objects are. ;)

I just flushed that something that was more useful to Emma.

[Phil Hunn]

Seeing that preview link just makes me wish they'd bring Jean back already.

When she's well written, she's a hell of a lot more likeable than Emma Frost.

Word. I haven't read a Jean this well-written in freakin' years, and I love it.

A mop is more likeable than Emma Frost. Many inanimate objects are. ;)

Emma Frost: smarter than the average mop.

[Slung]

Word. I haven't read a Jean this well-written in freakin' years, and I love it.

Well, to be fair, she has been dead ;).

Emma Frost: smarter than the average mop.
So, she's what...on par with a vaccuum, right?

*suck*

[Daithi]

Well, to be fair, she has been dead ;).


Well there was Claremont's "The End" and Phoenix Endsong.

[Phil Hunn]

Well, to be fair, she has been dead ;).

Even so, Jean's being treated as something other than PHENOMINAL COSMIC POWER here, and I really like that.

So, she's what...on par with a vaccuum, right?

*suck*

Only for $50.

Well there was Claremont's "The End" and Phoenix Endsong.

Yes, but we don't talk about those ;)

[Gene M.]

I'd look at the preview, but I'm wearing a new pair of pants and I don't want to break the zipper.

[Brian M.]

I'd look at the preview, but I'm wearing a new pair of pants and I don't want to break the zipper.

That's why you gotta prepare yourself like I do. Strip down naked, cover yourself in toothpaste and call in the family cat.

[Hi-Fi]

I'd look at the preview, but I'm wearing a new pair of pants and I don't want to break the zipper.
LOL! We have a winner here!

[Gene M.]

That's why you gotta prepare yourself like I do. Strip down naked, cover yourself in toothpaste and call in the family cat.
I'm allergic to cats. Change it to a dog and I'm in.

[Brian M.]

I'm allergic to cats. Change it to a dog and I'm in.

Dogs like Maple Syrup.

[Gene M.]

Dogs like Maple Syrup.
Your expertise always astounds me.

[Brian M.]

Your expertise always astounds me.

There's about a 6 month gap in my life that I'd rather just briefly refer to from time to time. No details...too painful.

[Beast]

You guys are gonna scare Jeff Parker...

Wait, this is the guy who wrote Ego having sex with Earth. Nevermind. :D

[Gene M.]

There's about a 6 month gap in my life that I'd rather just briefly refer to from time to time. No details...too painful.
So that's what happened before CC came back to the X-Men!

[Brian M.]

So that's what happened before CC came back to the X-Men!

Yea...and lemme just say this...I was the reason for the Betsy/Jean power switch...all it took was a little Marvin Gaye, tequila and wooden paddle.

[Slung]

Even so, Jean's being treated as something other than PHENOMINAL COSMIC POWER here, and I really like that.
True, she is a human being and that is nice to see for a change (but I'm partial to Jean as Phoenix, so we'll have to agree to disagree - I'm not partial to goddess Jean or super-duper-all-powerful Jean...more just green Phoenix Claremont/Byrne-Seagle-Revolution Jean).



Only for $50.
I was hoping you'd go there...I really was. You know, you set up a joke and you wait...and you wait...and then the pay off comes and although fun, it just is never quite as amazing as the expectation. :)

[Phil Hunn]

True, she is a human being and that is nice to see for a change (but I'm partial to Jean as Phoenix, so we'll have to agree to disagree - I'm not partial to goddess Jean or super-duper-all-powerful Jean...more just green Phoenix Claremont/Byrne-Seagle-Revolution Jean).

See, that Jean I don't mind. It's when she starts going mental with the amputating of timelines and eating of suns and whatnot that things tend to go sour.

I was hoping you'd go there...I really was. You know, you set up a joke and you wait...and you wait...and then the pay off comes and although fun, it just is never quite as amazing as the expectation. :)

Eh, next time I'll try harder :p

[caney]

The preview looks perfect!!!

I wanna bottle up Jeff Parker's O5 love and hand it out to ever writer before they write anything with the X-Men ever. <3 <3 <3

[Brian M.]

The preview looks perfect!!!

I wanna bottle up Jeff Parker's O5 love and hand it out to ever writer before they write anything with the X-Men ever. <3 <3 <3

YES!!!! Give it to Ed Brubaker for issue #500.

[Beast]

YES!!!! Give it to Ed Brubaker for issue #500.
I'd rather give Jeff Parker Uncanny X-Men starting with #500. ;)

[Gene M.]

I'd rather give Jeff Parker Uncanny X-Men starting with #500. ;)
I'm confused. I don't know if I want to BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this man or not? :confused:

[MacLeod]

The preview looks perfect!!!

I wanna bottle up Jeff Parker's O5 love and hand it out to ever writer before they write anything with the X-Men ever. <3 <3 <3


You need to give a whole bottle of the stuff to Joe Quesada. He doesn't think much of Jean, apparently.

[Slung]

You need to give a whole bottle of the stuff to Joe Quesada. He doesn't think much of Jean, apparently.

Which is why he needs psychiatric evaluation in a bad way. I fear for the lives of his co-workers. Those who don't think much of Jean are surely unstable. Surely!

[Phil Hunn]

You need to give a whole bottle of the stuff to Joe Quesada. He doesn't think much of Jean, apparently.

Well, why would he? It's not like she can do anything except be Phoenix, is it... :rolleyes:

[Omega Alpha]

You need to give a whole bottle of the stuff to Joe Quesada. He doesn't think much of Jean, apparently.

Which shows good taste. :)

[Slung]

Which shows good taste. :)

No, no...it shows insanity. I've already explained this. You never listen to me. And you wonder why our relationship is so strained of late.

[Faded]

Especially when she had such a hard life growing up. But how does this all fit in with her original origin?!? (http://designcanteen.com/tessa) :D

OMAHLoLzLol! I love it!

[Omega Alpha]

No, no...it shows insanity. I've already explained this. You never listen to me. And you wonder why our relationship is so strained of late.

What shows insanity is to like her, i've explained it already. :p

[Slung]

What shows insanity is to like her, i've explained it already. :p

I've set us up an appointment with a very good therapist. Consider this your intervention. We'll get through this my friend.;)

[Omega Alpha]

I've set us up an appointment with a very good therapist. Consider this your intervention. We'll get through this my friend.;)

Yes, you'll learn to despise Jean as well. :)

[Slung]

Yes, you'll learn to despise Jean as well. :)

Maybe you haven't been hugged enough. *Gives big hug*

Jean is written like gold in First Class. Maybe you should try some of that. I'll give you another hug if you read it...

(I think having a girl as my avatar is giving me an identity crisis.)

[MIMIC616]

If Xavier had to have another class of first X-Men in the past which 5 would fit the class?

Sage
Mimic
Changeling
Blob?
Cable?

[Beast]

If Xavier had to have another class of first X-Men in the past which 5 would fit the class?

Sage
Mimic
Changeling
Blob?
Cable?
No more retcon teams! After the X-Men 1.5 team, I never wanna see that concept again.

[david r]

I picked up X-Men: First Class #1 and was pleasantly surprised. After all the nice comments about it, I was curious. The artwork alone was polished and gorgeous. Full of color, I hope Roger Cruz remains.

But my real gushing is for writer Jeff Parker. Jeff did a fabulous job; modernizing the Original 5, yet remaining true to the 1960s version. I enjoyed how Iceman was telling the narrative. My only complaint was Professor Charles Xavier was too lenient, and I remember him being more stern in the early days.

I found this comment funny: "These are not so much Hidden Years as they are years we didn't see enough of." I'm sure John Byrne is foaming at the mouth !!

Is every issue of the mini a stand-alone story?

[1WEBHEAD]

I picked up X-Men: First Class #1 and was pleasantly surprised. After all the nice comments about it, I was curious. The artwork alone was polished and gorgeous. Full of color, I hope Roger Cruz remains.

But my real gushing is for writer Jeff Parker. Jeff did a fabulous job; modernizing the Original 5, yet remaining true to the 1960s version. I enjoyed how Iceman was telling the narrative. My only complaint was Professor Charles Xavier was too lenient, and I remember him being more stern in the early days.

I found this comment funny: "These are not so much Hidden Years as they are years we didn't see enough of." I'm sure John Byrne is foaming at the mouth !!

Is every issue of the mini a stand-alone story?


Yessir, indeedy.:)

[Brian M.]

Glad you enjoyed it David. The series only gets better. Jeff drops little hints in the pages of each issue as to when it might take place.

The ongoing is gonna include some 2 parters, Jeff said maybe if it requires a 3 parter or so. Roger Cruz is staying on too.

[killerbass]

Glad you enjoyed it David. The series only gets better. Jeff drops little hints in the pages of each issue as to when it might take place.

The ongoing is gonna include some 2 parters, Jeff said maybe if it requires a 3 parter or so. Roger Cruz is staying on too.

And that Val Staples is a great colorist. I can't think of anyone else that can do both great bright and dark colors. Some of the things he does with pink and purple are really refreshing...

There. I said it and I feel better.

Jeff Parker even forgot to thank him in the credits on the last page of issue 8.

--Tom

[david r]

And that Val Staples is a great colorist. I can't think of anyone else that can do both great bright and dark colors. Some of the things he does with pink and purple are really refreshing...

There. I said it and I feel better.

Jeff Parker even forgot to thank him in the credits on the last page of issue 8.

--Tom

You are sooo right about the colorist. The color just leaps off the page. It really caught my eye in the store, and another reason I picked up #1.

That bastard Parker for forgetting to thank Val Staples. ;)

[xgeek52]

being one who have been reading the books since the beginning, i truely enjoyed first class...not only was the writing first rate but the artwork soared...

they stayed true to lee/kirby while putting their own spin to it...

can't wait for june...

[david r]

If I can hunt down more back issues, I may pick it up ongoing.

It's nice reading some stand-alone stories for a change. The X-world seemed so tranquil and peaceful back then. I wonder when Jeff Parker will spring Magneto into the mix?

[Beast]

being one who have been reading the books since the beginning, i truely enjoyed first class...not only was the writing first rate but the artwork soared...

they stayed true to lee/kirby while putting their own spin to it...

can't wait for june...
Don't forget May, with the Special.

[xgeek52]

as best as i can figure out the continuity all of first class is kinda in between...you can tell by the uniform change...

[Phil Hunn]

as best as i can figure out the continuity all of first class is kinda in between...you can tell by the uniform change...

It's not the same as Byrne's Hidden Years, which was an in-between series. This series is more an "untold tales" series, like Kurt Busiek's Untold Tales Of Spider-Man series of a few years back.

Oh, and according to Byrne, if you like First Class, you're apparently not a real fan. No, really...

[Brian M.]

It's not the same as Byrne's Hidden Years, which was an in-between series. This series is more an "untold tales" series, like Kurt Busiek's Untold Tales Of Spider-Man series of a few years back.

Oh, and according to Byrne, if you like First Class, you're apparently not a real fan. No, really...

There two different series, don't know why Cry Baby Byrne would care.

[Beast]

There two different series, don't know why Cry Baby Byrne would care.
Because Marvel's dead to him. And everything they do is an abomination to god and makes Baby Jesus cry. Especially anything that bares even a small resemblance to anything he's ever done before. Remember, this is the guy who constantly complains about retcons, yet had Storm interacting with the O5 team in Hidden Years and rebooted Doom Patrol, tossing out all the previous continuity. ;)

[Diablito]

Does anyone else think that the mutant Professor X was looking for in X-Men First Class #8 was Storm? You know, since she might've been in Africa at the moment?

And Cerebro was pretty sentient back then. Shouldn't he be considered a member of the X-Men?

[Slung]

There two different series, don't know why Cry Baby Byrne would care.

Because he is a bitter old man. I still haven't figured out how anyone can stand being on his forum. When he isn't antagonistic and offensive, he's rude and defensive.

Oops...I'll get off my high horse now...er...First Class rules!

[Gene M.]

I was sad when I finished reading First Class #8, because it was over. Then I was happy again because of the ongoing.

[The Spirit]

X-men the hidden years allready did it. And better.

[Beast]

X-men the hidden years allready did it. And better.
Not really. X-Men: The Hidden Years was set after the first 66 issues of X-Men. During the period when the book was in reprints up until X-Men 93. Where as X-Men: First Class is set during those first 66 issues. Totally different concept. As for better, that's a matter of taste. I'll take FC over HY any day.

[The Spirit]

Not really. X-Men: The Hidden Years was set after the first 66 issues of X-Men. During the period when the book was in reprints up until X-Men 93. Where as X-Men: First Class is set during those first 66 issues. Totally different concept. As for better, that's a matter of taste. I'll take FC over HY any day.
Obviously. That's all these Message Boards are about is peoples different tastes.

And arguing about them.

[Gene M.]

X-men the hidden years allready did it. And better.
Thank you for such a thoughtful comparison between the two series. You raise a number of points that could lead to endless discussions about the two books, the characters and the creators.

[Beast]

Obviously. That's all these Message Boards are about is peoples different tastes.

And arguing about them.
Thank you. I didn't know what message boards were for before your insightful information.

[Omega Alpha]

X-men the hidden years allready did it. And better.

No, they didn't, and whatever you're talking about, they didn't do better.

[Brian M.]

X-men the hidden years allready did it. And better.

Again NO!

X-Men: First Class takes place between X-Men #1 and X-Men #66.
X-Men: Hidden Years takes place between the end of X-Men #66 and Gaint Size X-Men #1.

Tell me again how Hidden Years already did it again?

[streator]

i think what that poster is trying to say is that both titles are about telling stories with the original x-men and meant to appeal to fans of those characters together. that's why both exist, because there is still a market for that team/era.

that's how i see it, at least.

[Matthew K.]

don't make Brian go ghetto on your ass...just playin'

intially prior to launch I thouhgt First Class was rehashing Hidden Years, but it isn't at all...& FC is more enjoyable so far story & art wise

[xgeek52]

i think everyone needs to go back and read hidden years...

where are any of the kids at the school before the end of the run...

i don't do numbers or issues...but i seem to remember all of them having issues at a high school...translation prior to them arriving at the school...

hidden years isn't better just different...

[CmX]

I kinda want to pick this up cause I've heard nothing but good about this series. But I'm just not interested in the original five team and never have been. Especially Jean..

If I ever find myself having the urge to pick up another title this'll be it though.

[Slung]

I kinda want to pick this up cause I've heard nothing but good about this series. But I'm just not interested in the original five team and never have been. Especially Jean.


I was going to blast you for this and then thought better of it. I can't force you have good taste. Its something you have to learn on your own, young one.

[CmX]

Sorry don't think I hate Jean I just don't find her very appealing. She's still good in my book just definitely not one of my faves. :)

[Slung]

Sorry don't think I hate Jean I just don't find her very appealing. She's still good in my book just definitely not one of my faves. :)

I was feeling snarky last night. Pay no attention to anything I said ;).

[Gene M.]

Reading First Class to a pregnant lady's stomach decreases the chances of Infant Death Syndrome.

[Flâneur]

Especially when she had such a hard life growing up. But how does this all fit in with her original origin?!? (http://designcanteen.com/tessa) :D
Oh my fucking roflmao.

Reading First Class to a pregnant lady's stomach decreases the chances of Infant Death Syndrome.

I shall make sure my sister cannot get her hands on a copy when she is pregnant - the fight against noise pollution must go on.

[Dagger]

Especially when she had such a hard life growing up. But how does this all fit in with her original origin?!? (http://designcanteen.com/tessa) :D
OMG!!!! BEST ORIGIN EVAR!!!

[david r]

This book is a load of fun because:


Its out of current continuity It is not dragged down by too many characters.
It resurrects the Silver Age fun of classic X-Men
Young Jean is hotter than older Jean

[Diablito]

I thinks that Jean Grey looks like Donna from "That 70s Show" in this book.

[Omega Alpha]

This book is a load of fun because:


Its out of current continuity It is not dragged down by too many characters.
It resurrects the Silver Age fun of classic X-Men
Young Jean is hotter than older Jean

Except for the part about young Jean, i agree.

I thinks that Jean Grey looks like Donna from "That 70s Show" in this book.

I noticed she looked a lot like someone, but i couldn't remember who, but now that you mentioned, yes, she does look like Donna. Maybe they can draw Scott into looking like Eric? After all, he was called Slim. Warren can be Kelso and Bobby Jackie:D

[Beast]

Does that make Xavier, Red? And who's that leave for Beast?

[Diablito]

Does that make Xavier, Red? And who's that leave for Beast?

Beast can be Fez :D

[Beast]

Beast can be Fez :D
God no! There has to be someone more interesting than Fez. :p

[Omega Alpha]

Does that make Xavier, Red? And who's that leave for Beast?

Ha, Xavier is definitely Red. Beast can be Fez.:)

[Beast]

Kicking this back to the top for a bit of discussion.

Who here would like to see a whacky time travel adventure. With the X-Men: First Class meeting their future/adult selves. It can be set at any point of course, so that it's before Jean's death. I'd just love to see an issue or two where the two groups have an encounter. And future Xavier can always wipe their minds right before their returned to ensure that they don't change or alter history with forbidden knowledge. :)

[Brian M.]

Kicking this back to the top for a bit of discussion.

Who here would like to see a whacky time travel adventure. With the X-Men: First Class meeting their future/adult selves. It can be set at any point of course, so that it's before Jean's death. I'd just love to see an issue or two where the two groups have an encounter. And future Xavier can always wipe their minds right before their returned to ensure that they don't change or alter history with forbidden knowledge. :)

They travel 2000 years into the future to meet Slym and Redd ;)

[Beast]

They travel 2000 years into the future to meet Slym and Redd ;)
Jeff Parker yelled at me for pitching ideas on his blog. :(

[Sentinel K]

Jeff Parker yelled at me for pitching ideas on his blog. :(

Its frowned upon.

Warren Ellis said he'd delete anyone who did it to him on myspace.

It's a legal thing.

[Brian M.]

Jeff Parker yelled at me for pitching ideas on his blog. :(

Don't piss him off. Next thing you know he'll sign an exclusive w/ DC.

[Beast]

Its frowned upon.

Warren Ellis said he'd delete anyone who did it to him on myspace.

It's a legal thing.
I was kidding. Since he's welcome to any ideas I have. ;)

He was just saying that I might brainstorm across an idea that he had or is working on ... and he might flake on running with it because people will call it predictable. That's all. :)

[Beast]

Don't piss him off. Next thing you know he'll sign an exclusive w/ DC.
Hey, he's Mike Carey to my Hi-Fi. I have to fawn over him. :D

[Brian M.]

Hey, he's Mike Carey to my Hi-Fi. I have to fawn over him. :D

You stay away from him!!! Since he wrote that little scene at the end of Dragon Man he's mine.

[Beast]

You stay away from him!!! Since he wrote that little scene at the end of Dragon Man he's mine.
Don't make me wrestle you and pull your hair, bitch! :D

[Brian M.]

Don't make me wrestle you and pull your hair, bitch! :D

I will !@#$ing end you!!!

[caney]

Jeff Parker yelled at me for pitching ideas on his blog. :(

I liked the idea. I'm always a sucker for those kinds of things, but I don't think they ever turn out as good as you imagine. I'd like to see some of the Ultimate X-Men meet their 616 counterparts. :o

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I will !@#$ing end you!!!

"I will shake your foundation. I will shake the f**cking rafters. Nobody'll be the same"


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/danny_bonaduce.jpg

[Diablito]

I Looove This Book!!

[Brian M.]

I need to lose some of the anger, so lets talk First Class.

The solicit for #2 and #3 sound like our first two parter and it's on Monster Island...anyone think we'll get Dragon Man?

[Brian M.]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=115240


Special thanks to Cayman for pointing this out.

[Beast]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=115240


Special thanks to Cayman for pointing this out.
Aye, mucho thanks to Cayman for the heads-up. And to you for the link. :D

[Beast]

I have to say, I really like Jeff Parker's post on "Continuity" and "Canon" on his blog.
Shooting the Canon

Yes I spelled it that way on purpose. I just thought I’d reprint the guts of a post I made on Alvaro’s ComicBoards.com, in the X-Forum. Because I accidentally got out some coherent thoughts on a matter I see a lot, specifically when people talk about X-Men First Class. Someone mentioned that I consider the stories “canon” and I popped in to say that it’s not the case. Here it is, and I’ll add a bit more to it…

I’d like to chime in here on the matter of canon. Because this gets brought up in other places, like the Marvel Chronology Project. There the participants have undertaken the Herculean task of trying to place all developments in Marvel’s fictional history in order of each other.

While I consider our XFC stories in continuity, I don’t think I can decide what’s CANON. I think these are all modern heroic legends that will be added to and subtracted from, and what actually determines canon if anything, is the staying power of the parts generations of readers keep liking. Miller and Mazzucelli in Batman: Year One add in a bit with young Bruce falling into the cave and later the bat smashing through his window. Everyone liked that, so it got incorporated into later books and cartoons, and now it’s canon. Oh, and those pearls.

Earlier example going back to the Arthurian tales (they’re always my prime example relating to iconic characters)- Gawain was for years Arthur’s number 2 knight, but as the stories pass through France, Sir Lancelot gets added into the mix and eventually supplants that role because people like the story arc with the Guinivere triangle. Modern superhero comics correspond easily to the Arthurian tales- we even try to write the eventual deaths of our fictional heroes because we have a need for them to have that linear arc.

The publisher or a specific group of fans can try to nail something down, but it’s time and the collective of readers who will determine what part of the legend stays. So there’s no need for us to get too bent out of shape when a development we don’t like happens, we just have to count what we like. Future creators will simply diminish the importance of that event or forget it altogether unless it has real staying power.

So that’s what I said. This is probably only of interest to people who watch these debates at the Chronology Project or John Byrne Forum. You can find some interesting points from very smart readers, but also some heated zealotry where people list the capabilities of the Danger Room the same as your local religious fanatic will quote the Bible- hence the word “canon.” I tend to not post where I’m insulted frequently, but were I going to, I would just advise everyone to just say our X-stories aren’t canon and save themselves a lot of work.

But the Agents of Atlas stuff? All that TOTALLY HAPPENED!
http://www.parkerspace.com/2007/05/31/shooting-the-canon

[Beast]

Jeff Parker dropped a tease for X-Men: First Class #5. :)

That was followed up with the question of whether we are going to see more obscure or non-X-Men characters in First Class. Parker’s short and sweet answer was, “yeah, sure, why not!” Elaborating, he stated in issue #5, they meet the Hulk, “because there’s nothing saying they didn’t meet him then.” The writer mentioned that, in the ‘60s, the X-Men weren’t supposed to be so cut apart from the rest of the Marvel Universe like they are now, so he can get away with putting more of Marvel in his series, as it stays true to how stories were written back then.

[Omega Alpha]

O5 vs Hulk? Sweet! Puny humans who dare to miss it should be smashed!

[Beast]

I hope it has a jokey "World War Hulk" like title. :D

[Brian M.]

The solicit for #4 is just awesome sounding. I miss the Bobby/Hank friendship.

[Beast]

I mentioned this in the New Warriors #4 thread, but figured I'd repost it here.

New Warriors #4 firmly establishes the X-Men: First Class stories and costumes are canon. As the O5 X-Men on the screen that Night Thrasher talks about are sporting the X-Men: First Class costumes.

[Polaris Rocks]

I wonder if Polaris and Havok will ever show up?

So far even Magneto has only appeared in Xavier's dream.

[Beast]

I wonder if Polaris and Havok will ever show up?

So far even Magneto has only appeared in Xavier's dream.
I'm sure they'll appear eventually. But not too often.

After all, Havok and Polaris weren't introduced until late in the O5 run.

Polaris - X-Men #49
Havok - X-Men #54

As for Magneto. Marvel might be weary to feature him in the book... given the O5 era Magneto was very one-dimensional. And he's grown into a much more well rounded character later on. But I have faith that Jeff Parker could pull it off. Though I actually like the fact that the book is focusing on Non-X-Related villains. Since that was something that was great about the old days, that is missing so much now adays.

[Polaris Rocks]

As for Magneto. Marvel might be weary to feature him in the book... given the O5 era Magneto was very one-dimensional. And he's grown into a much more well rounded character later on. But I have faith that Jeff Parker could pull it off. Though I actually like the fact that the book is focusing on Non-X-Related villains. Since that was something that was great about the old days, that is missing so much now adays.

Alot of recient X-Men one shots about the X-Men's early days like X-Men minus one with Xavier, Magneto, and Wanda and Pietro had a Magneto sort of in his 1990s presona, certainly not good but not a raving lunatic the way he was in the Silver Age.

[Beast]

Just had to brag a little, since I just got a very cool package in the mail today from Jeff Parker.

He sent me some awesome swag for being such a booster of X-Men: First Class and his other work.

Got a signed copy of X-Men: First Class (Vol. 1) #2 (The Lizard Issue featuring Beast and Angel), and X-Men: First Class (Vol. 2) #10 (The Scott Solo Issue). As well as a signed copy of one of Jeff's earlier books, The Interman. Last, but certainly not least.... an original piece of Colleen Coover's penciled art. It's the first page of 'The Talking Board', with the O5 X-Men playing with a Quija Board. Jeff Parker rocks! :biggrin:

[david r]

That is great, Beast! How many professionals still would do that? Jeff Parker is a great guy, it sounds like. And I hope he writes this series for years to come.

[killerbass]

Jeff Parker is a class act.

He needs to be writing a full-fledged 616, or Ultimate book.

Just my two cents....

--Tom

[Old No.7]

Jeff Parker is a class act.

He needs to be writing a full-fledged 616, or Ultimate book.

Just my two cents....

--Tom

Long as it doesn't take away from X-Men: First Class.

But you're right, Parker is a class act.

[killerbass]

Long as it doesn't take away from X-Men: First Class.

Of course.

I'd just like to see my favorite creators make a little bit of money...

--Tom

[Old No.7]

Of course.

I'd just like to see my favorite creators make a little bit of money...

--Tom

Oh I agree.

[jmc247]

Joe Q releases a new First Class cover

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/xfcfinals_parts1234_sm.jpg

[1Bourbon1Scotch&1Beer]

That is one of the most amazing peices of art I have ever seen, that is perfect.

[HeckBoy]

Joe Q releases a new First Class cover

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/xfcfinals_parts1234_sm.jpg

That is amazing! and I'm glad they finally took the gloves off of Hank. He's been switching in and out of having gloves for awhile now.

[jmc247]

I wonder if Polaris and Havok will ever show up?


I chatted with Christos Gage who is also writing House of M Civil War about his upcoming X-Men/Spiderman crossover and given he said that the first issue was set in Hidden Years territory I wondered if they might show up. While they will be referenced they won't show up, the same will probably true of First Class in general.

There are quite a few convoluted issues, especially related to Lorna's first big 'Queen of Mutants' storyline in Uncanny that Marvel would rather avoid talking about. That story was a confusing mess that I have read more then once and still shake my head at like the Xorn/Xorneto/Magneto storyline. Stories like House of M Civil War are the best one can hope for when it deals with young Polaris stories. Eventually, as in sometime in the next decade or two her offical 616 origins story will be told as well.

That said I think Marvel wouldn't have a problem with them showing up in Wolverine First Class.

[Frodo-X]

Joe Q releases a new First Class cover

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/xfcfinals_parts1234_sm.jpg
Gorgeous. Wonder what it is?

Perhaps the mini that starts in February is a four-parter and that will be split up to be the covers?