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Mikl C
03-11-2007, 06:33 AM
Who would you like to see play CA?
What storyline/ villains would you like to see?

I think the Red Skull is a must, and Aaron Eckhart is SO perfect for the role. That jaw!

Would the costume work on screen?

What other characters would you cast? etc.

Discuss!

Magneto Rocks
03-11-2007, 07:50 AM
In a perfect world, I'd base the entire first movie around World War 2, have Cap return in he Avengers flick, and then delve into the Winter Soldier storyline from movie 2. But that's, unfortunately, not going to happen.

CaptainMech
03-11-2007, 09:37 AM
i war world 2 would be great
have it kind like the ulmate version but w/o aliens

dingo
03-11-2007, 09:41 AM
In a perfect world, I'd base the entire first movie around World War 2, have Cap return in he Avengers flick, and then delve into the Winter Soldier storyline from movie 2. But that's, unfortunately, not going to happen.

I don't see any reason why not.

The unlikeliest of the three is the Winter Soldier one, but I would say the other two are even money.

Sparda
03-11-2007, 10:24 AM
Get someone who's an unknown but talented actor who just happens to be Blond and blue eye'd to do cap. I so don't want Brad Pitt for the role. Get a story of cap kicking Terroist ass for a story and Skull is behind it :).

CaptainCanada
03-11-2007, 10:35 AM
My plot for a Cap film:

I would open with Cap and a couple of the Invaders on leave in the closing months of the war, briefly returning to the continental USA. They would be watching a propaganda newsreel, which would open the film, chronicling (40s style) the exploits of Cap and his team. Now, I don't know what Invaders you could get into the film, realistically; Namor is bound for his own production, and I'm not sure about how well Bucky would translate, so Human Torch (assuming there isn't some niggling issue with the Fantastic Four franchise) and Union Jack and Spitfire (they're not American, obviously, but along to see the "colonies"). Afterwards, they stroll along the shore. Then, they stumble across the Red Skull and his people; Germany is lost, but they're planning to destroy Washington with a doomsday weapon launched from within the United States. Big fight, etc., Cap launched on a rocket, frozen...

Cap wakes up from his dream in the 21st century; he now lives on the Helicarrier (if SHIELD is allowed in the film; Fury may get his own film, so maybe not); if SHIELD's not allowed, then some military base will do. In order to avoid too much time showing Cap's initial reaction to his arrival, I'd prefer to use a flashback structure anchored in the present, a few years after Cap's return. That way, you can show scenes of him being discovered, his initial reaction, as well as his origin in World War II, with a minimum of time. Sharon Carter, Agent of SHIELD/whatever agency substitutes for SHIELD, is Cap's chief partner in the field, and love interest (you could also have them already involved, just to subvert the usual order of things in superhero movies). Sam Wilson would be here too; whether as an agent or as the Falcon, I'm not sure.

The plot in the modern era revolves around a series of terrorist attacks that has Cap convinced that the Skull is still alive (he got away back in 1945), despite the seeming unlikelihood of that. Similar to what Brubaker did at the start of his run, use this conviction to trigger some judicious flashbacks establishing the Cap/Skull mutual hatred, and how their origins are somewhat meshed (he was created to counteract the Skull's symbolism). If we're allowed to use SHIELD, the Skull's plan involves commandeering the Helicarrier itself, and taking control of the global security systems that operate out of it. I'd also use some variation of Brubaker's current plot thread, where Cap goes to see a SHIELD psychologist to deal with his issues; except the shrink is Doctor Faustus, manipulating him to suit the Skull's plans. The Skull is alive thanks to various treatments devised by Dr. Zola.

The Skull should succeed in taking over the carrier, and use the weapons systems (nuclear, laser satellites, whatever) to destroy the major capital cities (Washington, London, Moscow, Paris, Beijing), killing millions; however, he's not a typical villain, out for millions of dollars in payoffs; he wants to institute a new world order, an demands that anyone who wants to avoid his wrath must prove their loyalty by exterminating various "undesirables" within their own borders, and, on a national level, nations of undesirables (ie, most of the non-Caucasian world).

Cap, Sharon, and Sam stop him, of course.
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For casting, I don't know. I would prefer they go with the "mask" version of the Skull, rather than have it be his actual face, although there are obvious reasons why they might prefer the latter.

I'd prefer they cast an unknown as Cap; for the love of God, no Paul Walker. He's a terrible actor.

steve2275
03-11-2007, 10:42 AM
how about matt(jason bourne) damon

myslead
03-11-2007, 10:42 AM
Brad Pitt would be cool for the main lead, but I doubt he'd take on the role.

rick
03-11-2007, 11:02 AM
If I made a Captain America movie I would only have Cap in his uniform for the first and last scene of the movies because it's the man out of time story that everyone is interested in, not the superhero stuff.

Plus I'd make the Red Skull an Italian because his being German is just so cliché.


And just for fun the guy I would cast for Cap would be the unknown semi-talented actor son of a world famous reclusive writer.


I bet it would be a huge hit. ;)

rick
03-11-2007, 11:07 AM
Or better yet, I'd make Cap a modern 70's kind of guy, maybe a surfer or ex-Special Forces, or maybe both. INstead of a mask Cap can wear a special crash helmet and have a super motorcycle that does most of his work for him.

Plus I'd turn his shield into the dustguard on the bike.

I'm sure that would be cool. :p

rick
03-11-2007, 11:10 AM
No wait, forget the shield all together.

And Steve Rogers for that matter.

We can give him a better name then Steve.

Maybe Guy, maybe Grant, maybe Gus, but something strong with a “G” in it.

And while we are at it, let’s get rid of the shield. It isn’t that realistic and plus it’s hard to do right on film. I say we just give him a 38 revolver instead.

Plus, let’s skip the whole solder thing and give Cap a career.

I know we can make him a fighting District Attorney standing up to the mob.

That one is so good it could go on for weeks.

rick
03-11-2007, 11:15 AM
Oh wait, I'm too late, they already did those......


http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9026/salio8.jpg


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3499/2ndcap44ma8.jpg


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6346/cap3tk0.jpg

Karl J Barnes
03-11-2007, 11:19 AM
Oh wait, I'm too late, they already did those......


http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9026/salio8.jpg


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3499/2ndcap44ma8.jpg


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6346/cap3tk0.jpg

I think that Rick just busted the Sarcasm Meter*checks the meter*...yep. It's a goner.

Capt USA
03-11-2007, 11:30 AM
In a perfect world, I agree with Magneto Rocks, the first movie would revolve around world war 2, with bucky and maybe the rest of the invaders, the movie would end with cap and buck dying (or open the second movie with that it doesn't really matter) second movie would be based upon the discovery of cap america, the new america and racism alive and well (focused around steve and sam, with a little bit of shield and sharon thrown in) third movie would be the winter soldier storyline.

the trilogy would be written ahead of time to ensure same actors and filming and to set up that the red skull will be the villain in the first and third movie not the second (which would probably be zemo and/or strucker with flag smasher maybe involved in a side story)

MAK15
03-11-2007, 11:39 AM
lessee...we'd need to have the Red Skull in there.
maybe...
okay, do the whole WW2 thing, where he fights nazis and what not(maybe show it as black n white newsreels?) and have that flashback end when he falls into the water.
come back to today, we see SHIELD and Nick Fury. Nick Fury's busy dealing with Hydra who is secretly lead by the Red Skull. SHIELD finds cap, revives him, tells him what year it is...yadda yadda yadda.
Cap gets an updated costume for his new job.
on the job Cap falls for fellow agent Sharon Carter, who is the niece of one of his old girlfriends.
romance ensues.
SKull attacks SHIELD headquarters (triskellion or helicarrier, depending on budget) Cap commandeers one of the enemies air crafts and flies into the headquarters.
WHile waiting for the SHIELD backup, Cap gets captured by his old nemesis (who is like in his 30's due to nazi super soldier serum) and stalls for time.
Nick Fury comes with cavalry (yelling 'YAHOO' while doing so) and the cap and skull go at it one last time before skull is brought in and the Hydra base goes up on flames.
happy endings for everybody!

in the film, dont make the red skull a guy with a skull, make him like cap, but have his outfit look like a nazi uniform with a helmet that looks like a red skull.
and that...should just about do it.

CaptainCanada
03-11-2007, 11:55 AM
on the job Cap falls for fellow agent Sharon Carter, who is the niece of one of his old girlfriends.
I'd just as soon avoid the niece thing; Cap's story is already enough of a "small world" piece without having him fall for a relative of a past girlfriend.

Thorlief
03-11-2007, 12:02 PM
Kenny Johnson has to be my nr1 choice

he's got the face, the body and the attitude to be a kick ass Steve Rogers. Maybe more on the Ultimate side, but still perfect

http://www.fond-ecran.net/fonds/theshield_013.jpg

MAK15
03-11-2007, 12:08 PM
Kenny Johnson has to be my nr1 choice

he's got the face, the body and the attitude to be a kick ass Steve Rogers. Maybe more on the Ultimate side, but still perfect

I agree completely!

I'd just as soon avoid the niece thing; Cap's story is already enough of a "small world" piece without having him fall for a relative of a past girlfriend.

okay, but keep her as a SHIELD agent.
add Dum Dum, too.
maybe in the movie introduce Cap to youtube/myspace/the internet?

CaptainCanada
03-11-2007, 12:10 PM
okay, but keep her as a SHIELD agent.

Oh, Sharon should definitely be in the film.

myslead
03-11-2007, 01:14 PM
wow Kenny Johnson is dead on!

bookerg
03-11-2007, 01:44 PM
The movie is going to be an origin story if it does indeed get made, and you can count on storyboarding from Ultimates #1 heavily.

You guys know Brian Urlacher from the Chicago Bears? Every time I see him in action, whether its on the field or from that Chunky Soup commercial, I always think to myself "he is ooooooooo Steve Rogers!".

Granted, when I saw Gerrard Butler in 300, using that shield as defense and leading his men into battle (Avengers Assemble!), window-shop that dude a little and you've got a top contender.

Here's some pics of Urlacher, use your imagination to put the A on his forehead and you'll see what I mean...http://forums.comicbookresources.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32149&d=1173642204
p1_urlacher_si2.jpg

BTW, Kenny (Lem from the Shield) is a much better choice, I love that guy!

CaptainCanada
03-11-2007, 01:48 PM
The movie is going to be an origin story if it does indeed get made, and you can count on storyboarding from Ultimates #1 heavily.

In interviews, they've said the film will encompass both the Second World War and the modern era (given the fate of most period superhero films, that's understandable).

Mikl C
03-11-2007, 04:20 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/colganmichael/aaroneckhart-1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/colganmichael/aaron1.jpg

He IS Captain America!!1!11!

myslead
03-11-2007, 04:42 PM
The movie is going to be an origin story if it does indeed get made, and you can count on storyboarding from Ultimates #1 heavily.

You guys know Brian Urlacher from the Chicago Bears? Every time I see him in action, whether its on the field or from that Chunky Soup commercial, I always think to myself "he is ooooooooo Steve Rogers!".

Granted, when I saw Gerrard Butler in 300, using that shield as defense and leading his men into battle (Avengers Assemble!), window-shop that dude a little and you've got a top contender.

Here's some pics of Urlacher, use your imagination to put the A on his forehead and you'll see what I mean...http://forums.comicbookresources.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32149&d=1173642204
p1_urlacher_si2.jpg

BTW, Kenny (Lem from the Shield) is a much better choice, I love that guy!

maybe it's the lack of hair or the few extra pounds, but he dosen't look like Steve Rogers to me ...

Citizen V
03-11-2007, 06:25 PM
First movie:Captain America fights the Nazi`s,ends up in suspended animation.

Second movie:Captain America taken out of suspended animation by SHEILD,helps form avengers.

myslead
03-11-2007, 07:54 PM
the first part of the movie should be him during the WWII taking down the axis forces until he gets in suspended animation, the second part of the movie should be when he's discovered and gets to know learn a little of the new world that surrounds him. and finally the third part where he tries to stop red skull plan.

Shyft
03-11-2007, 08:10 PM
The Invader's should definately be in there somewhere. Even if its just an opening scene where they arent actually "mentioned". Like say maybe a narrator is speak a brief history of project rebirth, whilst scenes of the Invaders fighting play in slight slow-motion.

xarathos
03-11-2007, 08:45 PM
When I was younger me and my friends thought it would be great to see Bucky... blown to bits over the artic.

Lurch
03-11-2007, 08:55 PM
I understand Pitt did express an interest in the role awhile back, but even though he can play ten years younger he's still too old. (That's actually the only thing about RDJ as Iron Man that concerns me. If it goes into a trilogy, he'll be in his late forties by the third movie.)

I do think Damon would be a good choice. Never thought about it until Wizard Magazine put it out there. And I think Ron Eldard needs to be in there somewhere. He's got the face for Steve Rogers, but he'd need to buff up. Actually, I always thought that Hitch based his version of Hank Pym on Eldard.

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Haunt
03-12-2007, 04:32 PM
kenny johnson looks more like US Agent.

anyways, first movie set during WWII-era. the nazis attempt to steal the super-soldier-serum notes but fail to retrieve all of it. they use a relatively normal-looking nazi scientist, Arnim Zola, to 'fill in the gaps' of the formula. most of their test subjects die except the civilian who becomes the Red Skull. the first movie is basically about a young man becoming a legend and helping the allied force stop a larger than life enemy (a more movie-esque verison of the Axis powers); aided by the Skull. ending is just them winning the war and Captain America becoming recognized as a hero.

2nd movie
we find out what happened after the war, you see the fateful explosion that landed Steve in cryogenic sleep. next you see a small cabal of sinister-looking individuals (Viper, Crossbones, & a couple others) break into a supposedly hidden military installation. they free the aged & slowly dying Red Skull (who has been hidden there for decades) from a bunker and escape. he's introduced to Baron Wolfgang von Strucker and a new terrorist organization (Hydra) that was created from the Skull's legend. they want the Skull to be their figurehead. to that end, they have a now grotesquelly-cyborg Arnim Zola experiment on the Skull; renewing his strength/making him more dangerous than ever (happens a lot quicker than it sounds). anyways, the gubment has a similar idea. they thaw out the Captain to help fight this new terrorist threat. SHIELD agent Sam Wilson helps Cap become reacclimated to his environment/shows him around his old neighborhood; now mostly populated by african americans. he, Sam, and another SHIELD agent Sharon Carter will be the main good guys. Nick Fury could be seen briefly or only shown as a shadowed cigar smoking individual. 2nd movie basically reintroduces Captain America & makes him a hero for the modern world; and forcing him to fight an evolved enemy.

if it gets to a third installment...
Sam gets a special flight suit and becomes Cap's partner. "Hitler" returns as the Hate Monger and turns the city against itself and against Cap. i'm going with 3 basic struggles. the first movie involves a patriotic young man, Steve Rogers, fighting his own fears and doubts to become a hero. the second involves him fighting a physical threat he was designed to beat. the third involves him fighting the people he was meant to protect.

if the Winter Soldier were ever to appear, i'd want James Marsden to play him. Derek Luke (To Catch a Fire) for Sam Wilson. Ali Larter for Sharon.

Sam Wilson
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0385726/Ss/0385726/32A.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Luke,%20Derek

Sharon Carter
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/5662/Events/5662/AliLarter_Phill_12285832_400.jpg.html?path=pgaller y&path_key=Larter,%20Ali

projectnrm
03-12-2007, 04:40 PM
If I had any control over the Captain America movie, it would take place both during WWII and present-day, with two concurrent storylines switching back and forth throughout the movie.

The WWII storyline would (of course) contain Bucky and end with his and Cap's final sacrifice stopping that bomb. And the current storyline would contain several conflicts with Cap taking on the Winter Soldier, and ultimately learning that the guy he's been fighting was his former sidekick.

Mikl C
03-12-2007, 07:58 PM
Does no-one like eckhart? :(

Haunt
03-12-2007, 08:08 PM
Does no-one like eckhart? :(

he has too much nose, chin, and beady little eyes; makes him look more sinister than all-american. it'd be something that would be very noticeable if you were shooting him from the side; in costume. that's just my opinion, though. Eckhart would be a dead ringer for Henry Pym or Walter Langkowski, though.

Titanium
03-12-2007, 09:10 PM
There's no way a Cap movie could work completely based around World War Two. It's just not something that a movie going audience will like, especially since the cap that's known is known for waking up in modern times and that's the popular version.

for a good captain america movie, you have to start in world war two, with cap getting the super soldier serum and the death of erskine so there are no more super soldiers. Then cap's first mission out, a montage of his missions and the public's reaction to the super soldier fighting for America. Then you go for his last mission where he gets frozen, and this would be the entire first act of the movie, WWII Captain America vs the Nazis and the Nazi super soldier the Red Skull that ends with both being frozen alive. Then cut to today where SHIELD is now the UN Anti-terror/peacekeeping task force program and they discover Cap in ice while the Red Skull is uncovered by terrorist organization Hydra. Or better yet, the Red Skull is revived years before cap and starts up Hydra with his nazi followers. And it's Cap vs the Skull all over again. Maybe introduce Crossbones as one of the Skull's modern generals.

Either way the movies going to need Steve Rogers, Bucky, Nick Fury and his howling commandos, the red skull, hydra, baron von strucker, and maybe a cameo by WWII era Zemo.

I have this scene thought up with Cap's last mission being with the Howling Commandos to raid a Red Skull lab in the artic where a dangerous weapon is being developed (homaging the alien nuke from the Ultimates) that ends with Nick fury losing his eye and Bucky dying and Cap vs the Skull for what should be the last time, until 60 years later when they are discovered alive and well, frozen in suspended animation due to chemical exposure in the Skull's lab.

Lurch
03-13-2007, 02:43 AM
Titanium, I disagree with that sentiment. A well made period piece could absolutely be done. Nevermind the fact that it would not only be a war but also a superhero movie, and it's not like those aren't two of the biggest and most successful film formats in the history of Hollywood.

But I'm a sucker for a well made film that is historically mounted and costumed. (King Kong, anyone?) Personally, I would much rather see a Superman film set in 1940 than the one we got. Clark with the big shouldered suits and cocked hat and all. And I really thought a good FF movie could have been made if it was set during the space race of the early sixties. That whole thing is what made the characters relevant back then, and they've lost a lot of that now. It could have been a nice return.

Skytheen
05-24-2008, 10:16 PM
http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/150x180/27427.jpg Check this news out!
Captain America Is A War Hero
Marvel Origin Story To Be Set In WWII
Source: CHUD

If you’re a Captain America fan, today is a good day. Ever since Marvel revealed its plans to make a Cap movie a few weeks back, the rumour mill has been rapidly a-turning as to how it’s all going to pan out… Will it be set in the modern day? Will the flag-waving hero be contemporised? Will Matthew McConaughey be donning the Lycra?

Well, in a state of the comic universe address to CHUD.com, Marvel Studios President of Production Kevin Feige has spoken out to set a few facts straight. Firstly, and perhaps most importantly, he revealed that The First Avenger: Captain America (not Captain America: The First Avenger as originally reported) will be a period flick set during World War II. That’s great news for true believers as it follows the comic icon’s official origin story – skinny test subject Steve Rogers volunteers to be injected with a Super-Soldier serum that will turn him into the patriotic perfect human being – and will give us the opportunity to see Mr USA kicking all kinds of Nazi butt and most likely facing off against his uber-bastard arch-nemesis, the Red Skull.
Cap’s debut adventure is scheduled to hit cinemas in May 2011 a few months before Marvel’s hotly anticipated superhero team-up film The Avengers launches in July, which most likely means that the first film will end on a cliffhanger to be picked up in the second origin flick as (and this is if the films do follow the comic book timeline) – and you might call this a spoiler, albeit very small – the modern-day Avengers find Steve Rogers’ frozen body in the North Atlantic.

As with Marvel’s cross-pollination (which started with the Nick Fury appearance in Iron Man and will continue with the Tony Stark cameo in The Incredible Hulk), the comic book giant is looking to emulate its character-packed universe in its movie adaptations. But, while looking to appease long-time fans by immersing, Feige promises that you won’t need to see all of Marvel’s upcoming films to understand The Avengers.

“Each of them have to stand on their own,” Feige said. “You won’t have to have seen any of the films to understand The Avengers… but it will help.”

In a second bit of news, Feige also confirmed that Matthew McConaughey is not in consideration to play Captain America, which might be a relief to fans.
A WWII film and NOT McConaughey. These are two points of great news!

link (http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=22620)

Abrojo
05-25-2008, 01:10 AM
Well as most people said in the thread on the TV/Film forums.
Finding someone that can hold his own on charisma with DowneyJr. and Edward Norton on stage and actually lead them, while being youngish. All this while also have muscle and being able to act. Its going to be hell of hard cast.

CyberHubbs
05-25-2008, 01:21 AM
I like this news a lot. It's exactly how I saw things going when I thought about a Cap movie.

The only thing that disheartens me is that it needs to have that Saving Private Ryan feel, and I just don't think Marvel will go there at the expense of barring younger fans due to an R rating.

hawkeye comeback
05-25-2008, 05:38 AM
the only person who i can think who could do that is Matt damon

HeckBoy
05-25-2008, 09:39 AM
That is great news. Ever since I heard Marvel was going to produce their own movies, listing Cap as one of them, I imagined the film to be like Saving Private Ryan. I wanted it to be a realistic "fighting in the trenches"-type movie and not a comic book "Cap punching Hitler" movie. Either way, I wanted it to take place during WWII. It'll probably be a blend of fighting in the trenches and superheroics if they're going to try and tie in his icing to the main plot (plus I'm betting they'll use Zemo or Red Skull as the archnemesis instead of Hitler).

Hmmm, and since it'll apparently be a period piece, I wonder if they'll keep the badge-shield throughout like the Ultimates version, or if we'll see him switch out to the trusty discus one during it (which is probably what's going to happen thanks to all that talk of the Cap shield showing up in Iron Man; but I hope they don't start with the discus at the get-go, I really want them to acknowledge the badge-shield).

CyberHubbs
05-25-2008, 09:47 AM
That is great news. Ever since I heard Marvel was going to produce their own movies, listing Cap as one of them, I imagined the film to be like Saving Private Ryan. I wanted it to be a realistic "fighting in the trenches"-type movie and not a comic book "Cap punching Hitler" movie. Either way, I wanted it to take place during WWII. It'll probably be a blend of fighting in the trenches and superheroics if they're going to try and tie in his icing to the main plot (plus I'm betting they'll use Zemo or Red Skull as the archnemesis instead of Hitler).

Hmmm, and since it'll apparently be a period piece, I wonder if they'll keep the badge-shield throughout like the Ultimates version, or if we'll see him switch out to the trusty discus one during it (which is probably what's going to happen thanks to all that talk of the Cap shield showing up in Iron Man; but I hope they don't start with the discus at the get-go, I really want them to acknowledge the badge-shield).

The badge-shield and modern discus-shield might be too complicating for some viewers. It's just easier to streamline things and have him using the shield most people aready know about from the beginning. And if the badge-shield does appear, it'll only be for a scene at most.

HeckBoy
05-25-2008, 10:01 AM
The badge-shield and modern discus-shield might be too complicating for some viewers. It's just easier to streamline things and have him using the shield most people aready know about from the beginning. And if the badge-shield does appear, it'll only be for a scene at most.Yeah, that's what I was thinking after I posted. At best, they'll probably give the badge-shield a cameo by hanging it on the wall with like other prototypes.

Will.S
05-25-2008, 10:24 AM
I'm wondering if they're going to use either the 616 Cap costume with little modern modifications or if they're going with the Ultimate costume all the way.

I'd prefer the 616 with modern modifications personally.

Hypestyle
05-25-2008, 10:27 AM
...glad to hear that the film will be all WWII-- in fact, at least two of the solo films should be WWII--

and hopefully the Cap movie sequel will have Bucky..

save the revival and modern adventure for the Avengers movies..

worstblogever
05-25-2008, 11:05 AM
the only person who i can think who could do that is Matt damon

And anyone who would doubt that hasn't seen any of the Bourne films. He really is the best thing I could picture for the role, too.

hawkeye comeback
05-25-2008, 11:18 AM
if he doesnt get that he could play the winter soldier maybe
in another cap movie

Congo Jack
05-25-2008, 11:29 AM
I'd love Matt Damon or Eyal Podell for Captain America. For purely selfish reasons, I hope they go with the altered Ultimate origin for this movie - with Bucky being a war-time photographer and going onto marry Steve's girlfriend. But keep the original heroic ideal attitude from the real Captain.

Catlin
05-25-2008, 11:29 AM
And anyone who would doubt that hasn't seen any of the Bourne films. He really is the best thing I could picture for the role, too.

Matt Damon...or maybe a complete unknown.

jackolover
05-25-2008, 04:21 PM
I have a reservation about the Cap movie being set in WW II, because those days are gone, and it brings up issues that have passed on. I wouldn't mind a flash back sequence, where we see the Zemo incident when Cap and Bucky are defeated, but leave it as Steve Rogers is fished out of the Atlantic and is ready made. Ready made except for his modern education. It would be like coming down from an LSD trip for Rogers, seeing Tall buildings, Nightclubs, brilliant lights, modern devices, and unknown super humans. That's what I would like to see Rogers do in his movie. A few guest spots by Fury, maybe a fleeting Winter Soldier encounter, and a sickening feeling of de jevu. Then a reality check when the Red Skull makes a surprising appearance, and Steve has to deal with something he knows how to deal.

Definately, a Brubaker take on the story.

Abrojo
05-25-2008, 04:59 PM
Matt Damon...or maybe a complete unknown.

Actually Matt Damon could be cool, didnt think about him and i am a fan of the Bourne movies.
On the other hand, as much as a fan i am on casting unknowns for main roles. I doubt a complete unknown can hold his ground on screen with DowneyJr, Edward Norton and SamJackson. As good as a person can act, charisma and presence for the audience needs a bit of a name.

tavella
05-25-2008, 06:56 PM
Actually Matt Damon could be cool, didnt think about him and i am a fan of the Bourne movies.
On the other hand, as much as a fan i am on casting unknowns for main roles. I doubt a complete unknown can hold his ground on screen with DowneyJr, Edward Norton and SamJackson. As good as a person can act, charisma and presence for the audience needs a bit of a name.

Eh. If you are good, you are good; you don't need to be a name to do it. If you have the skills, it'll only improve your performance if you are working against equally skilled people. Notice that Gwyneth Paltrow's best scenes were the ones where she was working face to face with Downey and that when she had to scream "you'll be killed!" at a soundstage ceiling she was a lot weaker.

But the odds of a minor miracle like the casting of Chris Reeves, where you find an unknown with stage experience who is not only dead on perfect physically but charismatic and an excellent actor, are pretty low.

jpk
05-25-2008, 07:46 PM
After Iron Man, I fully trust that setting Cap in WWII will work out just fine. I would like to see them cast an actor as opposed to a body builder. Look at what Gerard Butler did in 300 and you'll see that it's easier to turn an actor into a hero than it is to turn a hardbody into an actor.

Catlin
05-25-2008, 08:12 PM
Actually Matt Damon could be cool, didnt think about him and i am a fan of the Bourne movies.
On the other hand, as much as a fan i am on casting unknowns for main roles. I doubt a complete unknown can hold his ground on screen with DowneyJr, Edward Norton and SamJackson. As good as a person can act, charisma and presence for the audience needs a bit of a name.

I don't agree. Why couldn't an unknown with the right chemistry hold his own? I could name several movies where one of the leads was an unknown and not only held his or her own, but actually surpassed the big names. But since they are not comic movies, I won't mention them ;)

BugsySig
05-25-2008, 08:25 PM
If Matt Damon wasn't 5 feet tall I'd say he'd be great, but he just isn't physically imposing enough to pull off Cap (Not that I am suggesting a body builder). I too would go with an unknown or semi-unknown.

Personally I have suggested Jensen Ackles (Supernatural, Smallville) for this role numerous times. He's the best thing about Supernatural, he's got solid acting chops and personality, plus he's like 6'2"...

Kayless
05-25-2008, 09:23 PM
Thank God, McConaughey is not in the running.

I was hoping for a period piece, so things are looking good so far. :cool:

I'm wondering if they're going to use either the 616 Cap costume with little modern modifications or if they're going with the Ultimate costume all the way.

I'd prefer the 616 with modern modifications personally.
I hope they use the WWII Ultimate Cap costume in this film, since it's going to be set entirely in the 40's. It's one of my favorite Captain America outfits.

Abrojo
05-26-2008, 06:01 AM
Eh. If you are good, you are good; you don't need to be a name to do it. If you have the skills, it'll only improve your performance if you are working against equally skilled people.

But the odds of a minor miracle like the casting of Chris Reeves, where you find an unknown with stage experience who is not only dead on perfect physically but charismatic and an excellent actor, are pretty low.

I normally are all for new names. Actually for a Captain America movie i would totally prefer it. Problem is when i start thinking for the already confirmed Avengers movie.

This is the main difference with Chris Reeve for Superman, he didnt have to share stage with 3 teammates that where all played by known actors. The story of Cap means he will have to be carismatic, someone that DowneyJr, Samuel Jackson and Norton will bow to sort of speak, eclipse all 3 in charisma. Because, like it or not, they are in a state of comparison. Perhaps i am wrong but i dont see a nobody pulling that off when they are all on the same scene. Doesnt need to be a superpopular actor or anthing though just someone recognizable.

Peeps
05-26-2008, 08:32 AM
i would much rather prefer the movie to follow the ulitmates story line. show cap in flashbacks, show his origin, and have it end on a stark sub finding a block of ice, with the only visible reflection being that of the shield

tavella
05-26-2008, 12:27 PM
I normally are all for new names. Actually for a Captain America movie i would totally prefer it. Problem is when i start thinking for the already confirmed Avengers movie.

This is the main difference with Chris Reeve for Superman, he didnt have to share stage with 3 teammates that where all played by known actors. The story of Cap means he will have to be carismatic, someone that DowneyJr, Samuel Jackson and Norton will bow to sort of speak, eclipse all 3 in charisma. Because, like it or not, they are in a state of comparison. Perhaps i am wrong but i dont see a nobody pulling that off when they are all on the same scene. Doesnt need to be a superpopular actor or anthing though just someone recognizable.

Well, if this (http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/05/23/screen-bites-strikes-back/) is correct, they are looking to cast a wrestler, so we *both* can despair! I can only think they are planning to use Cap as comedy relief in an Avengers movie ("Look at how mystified Cap is at computers/credit cards/the internet! Ha ha!"), because it sure won't be for drama, or the natural leader of the Avengers.

Jeff-X
05-26-2008, 01:08 PM
If Matt Damon wasn't 5 feet tall I'd say he'd be great, but he just isn't physically imposing enough to pull off Cap (Not that I am suggesting a body builder). I too would go with an unknown or semi-unknown.

Personally I have suggested Jensen Ackles (Supernatural, Smallville) for this role numerous times. He's the best thing about Supernatural, he's got solid acting chops and personality, plus he's like 6'2"...

Matt Damon would work as Bucky, and if they want to bring him back in sequels as Winter Soldier.

stupots
05-26-2008, 01:46 PM
Would Aaron Eckhart be an option, what with him being involved in the Dark Knight? Legal issues? I think he would be a great Cap

bringthenoise
05-26-2008, 04:59 PM
Well, if this (http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/05/23/screen-bites-strikes-back/) is correct, they are looking to cast a wrestler, so we *both* can despair! I can only think they are planning to use Cap as comedy relief in an Avengers movie ("Look at how mystified Cap is at computers/credit cards/the internet! Ha ha!"), because it sure won't be for drama, or the natural leader of the Avengers.

Reading for the part is not the same as looking to cast him.

Atom_basher
05-26-2008, 05:54 PM
I know this seems like a silly choice because this actor ISNT american, but what about simon baker

http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/flipbooks/img/movies/people/b/baker_simon/1478095_10.jpg

mikekerr3
05-26-2008, 05:58 PM
the only person who i can think who could do that is Matt damon

Too Old and too small

Alan2099
05-26-2008, 06:09 PM
I still say the best choice for the role would be Mark Valley. He plays on Boston Legal, Days of Our Lives, and actually served in Operation Desert Storm.

Plus look at the guy. Just tell me that isn't the face of Captain America.
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6647/capni2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Abrojo
05-26-2008, 07:09 PM
I still say the best choice for the role would be Mark Valley. He plays on Boston Legal, Days of Our Lives, and actually served in Operation Desert Storm.

Plus look at the guy. Just tell me that isn't the face of Captain America.

OK i am sold :)

CyberHubbs
05-26-2008, 07:40 PM
I still say the best choice for the role would be Mark Valley. He plays on Boston Legal, Days of Our Lives, and actually served in Operation Desert Storm.

Plus look at the guy. Just tell me that isn't the face of Captain America.
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6647/capni2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

He seems a little too old for a young Cap just out of the SS program.

But he definitely has the look.

BugsySig
05-26-2008, 08:00 PM
He seems a little too old for a young Cap just out of the SS program.

But he definitely has the look.

Agreed...why does everyone want to cast a 40 year old to play Cap? Steve was 18 when he enlisted! I'm not saying you need a teenager to play him (just watch Gossip Girl or reruns of 90210 to know you don't need to be a teenager to play one on screen), but lets be somewhat realistic.

Oh, and no way are they casting a wrestler...Marvel already said no to a wrestler playing Thor, so why the fudge would they cast one for Cap?

SquidSquod
05-26-2008, 08:36 PM
Mark Valley is and looks old.

At least Matthew Fox and Matt Damon can look younger than their age.

Abrojo
05-27-2008, 07:41 AM
Mark Valley is made to look "old" in Boston Legal because he plays a lawyer. With make up, lightning, etc they can make him look way younger if they want.

He has the looks, he has the build and he can act. The rest they can fix.

b_sinning
05-27-2008, 11:18 AM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/b_sinning/mx0077230__opt.jpg

Now imagine if that Frisbee was a shield. ;)

Monty_Cristo
05-27-2008, 04:27 PM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/b_sinning/mx0077230__opt.jpg

Now imagine if that Frisbee was a shield. ;)

now imagine that he wasn't a pothead.

I know this seems like a silly choice because this actor ISNT american, but what about simon baker

http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/flipbooks/img/movies/people/b/baker_simon/1478095_10.jpg

looks like Scott Lang

DannyV_El_Acme
05-27-2008, 05:07 PM
You know, I think Matthew Fox(from Lost and Speed Racer) would make a kick-ass Cap. Yeah, he's not blonde, but that's what hair dye is for, and he's got that tough, hunky nice-guy look.

Monty_Cristo
05-27-2008, 05:08 PM
You know, I think Matthew Fox(from Lost and Speed Racer) would make a kick-ass Cap. Yeah, he's not blonde, but that's what hair dye is for, and he's got that tough, hunky nice-guy look.

yeah, i suggested that about a month ago. everyone said he was too old-looking to be cap. i don't agree but what do i know?

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6807913&postcount=30


Mark Valley's a possibility but he might be too "old" as well.

StoneGold
05-27-2008, 06:39 PM
Agreed...why does everyone want to cast a 40 year old to play Cap? Steve was 18 when he enlisted!

Depends on the source. I think the oldest was 23. Thing is, there's a difference between puny Steve Rogers and Captain America.

That said, and I know I've said this before, now that he's no longer Punisher, go with an original hair color Tom Jane. He's got the look, he's got the gravitas, he's got the body. And he has the acting chops to hang around with guys like Downey and Norton.

http://www.thomasjane.com/photos/magazine4.jpg

Monty_Cristo
05-27-2008, 06:43 PM
Depends on the source. I think the oldest was 23. Thing is, there's a difference between puny Steve Rogers and Captain America.

That said, and I know I've said this before, now that he's no longer Punisher, go with an original hair color Tom Jane. He's got the look, he's got the gravitas, he's got the body. And he has the acting chops to hang around with guys like Downey and Norton.

http://www.thomasjane.com/photos/magazine4.jpg

bad picture but i wouldn't be opposed to the casting choice.

Push You Down
05-29-2008, 04:42 PM
Thomas Jyane is really tiny in real life. TINY. Maybe 5 foot 9 at the most.

Monty_Cristo
05-29-2008, 04:44 PM
Thomas Jyane is really tiny in real life. TINY. Maybe 5 foot 9 at the most.

yeah, but the fact that you had to remind people that attests to his incredible acting ability. :D

so anyways. who will play...

Bucky?

Sharon Carter?

Red Skull?

CyberHubbs
05-29-2008, 04:47 PM
Red Skull?

I still say Tim Curry, with a stunt double for all his mano-a-mano action scenes with Cap.

Abrojo
05-29-2008, 05:02 PM
Depends on the source. I think the oldest was 23.

Movie magic can fix age and height pretty damn well.
They cant hide, bad acting, charisma or build.

BugsySig
06-02-2008, 10:41 AM
Bucky?

Sharon Carter?

Red Skull?

Bucky = Emile Hirsch

Red Skull = Gary Oldman

If the movie is set during WWII, then there is no need for Sharon Carter...but how about Sienne Miller?

StumboTheGiant
06-06-2008, 06:11 PM
I hope its as good as Ironman which is going to be hard.

Monty_Cristo
06-06-2008, 06:37 PM
Bucky = Emile Hirsch

Red Skull = Gary Oldman

If the movie is set during WWII, then there is no need for Sharon Carter...but how about Sienne Miller?

isn't she somewhat overused?

SquidSquod
06-06-2008, 08:30 PM
Overused in skintight uniform. :biggrin:

Um, I wish Cap or Thor is the next movie. Need some pause for Iron Man but seems Marvel don't have the same confidence for the other two.

Abrojo
06-06-2008, 11:56 PM
Um, I wish Cap or Thor is the next movie. Need some pause for Iron Man but seems Marvel don't have the same confidence for the other two.

2 years for next IM movie (2010), Thor and Antman i believe are around that year with Cap and Avengers on 2011.

Mr.EZ
06-08-2008, 09:32 AM
According to newsarama the director of Incredible Hulk has said that the movie will have a brief appearance by Captain America!

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080607-CapHulkfilm.html

SquidSquod
06-08-2008, 11:02 AM
Maybe it's just an old documentary newsreel, because for all we know they haven't got the actor for Cap yet.

BugsySig
06-13-2008, 02:14 PM
Apparently the scene containing Cap has been cut from the film (per LL). The scene was the one briefly shown in the trailers of Bruce in the Arctic, where he tries to commit suicide. It was cut for being too dark, but will be included in the DVD. My guess is there was a glimpse of frozen Cap, which would allow them to be fuzzy on the details as there is no actor or costume design as of yet.

A story on Newsarama, however, mentions that Marvel wants Leonardo DiCaprio for Cap...Good actor, but a bad fit for this role if you ask me.

Mr. Earl Brooks
06-13-2008, 02:19 PM
Apparently the scene containing Cap has been cut from the film (per LL). The scene was the one briefly shown in the trailers of Bruce in the Arctic, where he tries to commit suicide. It was cut for being too dark, but will be included in the DVD. My guess is there was a glimpse of frozen Cap, which would allow them to be fuzzy on the details as there is no actor or costume design as of yet.

A story on Newsarama, however, mentions that Marvel wants Leonardo DiCaprio for Cap...Good actor, but a bad fit for this role if you ask me.

I agree. A good actor who, and I don't know his specs, seems too tiny to fill out Captain America's uniform.

taozen
06-13-2008, 02:59 PM
I know most people do not like this choice for Cap but I say Matthew McConaughey.

This because of his performance in the movie "reign of fire". McConaughey had great physical prowess and presence in that movie. I remember the scene when he and Christian Bale's character fought, and I thought at the time, "He could play Cap." He may be too old right now but that could be easily changed. Men in their 30s fought in WWII. Just watch his performance in that movie and tell me he could now pull it off.

tavella
06-13-2008, 03:04 PM
I agree. A good actor who, and I don't know his specs, seems too tiny to fill out Captain America's uniform.

He's actually taller than you'd think; about six feet, and considering Downey's only around 5'7" or 8, that should do. And he's gotten a lot less babyfaced as he's gotten older, but still young-looking enough that he could manage the pre-serum teenaged Rogers.

If he's interested, it might not be a bad choice. Though he's such a distinctive actor that I'm not sure whether I'd manage to see Steve Rogers on the screen, as opposed to Leo Decaprio.

smartalek
06-13-2008, 11:15 PM
Paul Walker would be a great Captain America. He has the All American look down, he's tall, and he's very athletic. He is big into martial arts.
As far as his acting, I don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be.
If he can get rid of that surfer thing he has going on, he should be a ok.

TheKidHypno
06-14-2008, 08:11 AM
saw this posted on another site....

Now that we’ve gotten Captain America’s non-cameo in The Incredible Hulk sorted out, we can all get back to figuring out who is actually going to play Cap, once he finally gets his solo movie. A few weeks ago we told you that Matthew McConaughey might be in consideration, now the guys at Latino Review have come up with a pair of fairly obvious names which they think Marvel may want.

They say Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt are at the top of Marvel’s Captain America wish list. I’m not sure how much of a revelation that actually is, since they’re probably at the top of every studio’s wishlist for every major, male role (and maybe even a few female ones). I also have hard time thinking of a situation in which either of them would be interested, again because everyone wants them, and because they’ve both done a good job of staying pretty far away from the whole superhero thing till now.

DiCaprio is built like a scarecrow. He’s a great actor, but Captain America? I don’t think so. Pitt could pull it off easily enough I suppose, it just seems so obvious. Plus, Pitt has already been rumored for other Marvel roles like Thor, and nothing ever came of those. He’s the default every anonymous scooper goes for when they send in one of these rumor stories. Besides, wasn’t the word on Marvel that they were trying to keep the cost of these movies reasonable? Getting either of these actors is going to mean one heck of a big paycheck. I just don’t see either of these guys ever showing up in any Marvel movie.

IronPalm
06-14-2008, 08:48 AM
After Iron Man, I fully trust that setting Cap in WWII will work out just fine. I would like to see them cast an actor as opposed to a body builder. Look at what Gerard Butler did in 300 and you'll see that it's easier to turn an actor into a hero than it is to turn a hardbody into an actor.

Don't know if a Greek with a scottish accent is regarded as adequate acting
:eek:

IronPalm
06-14-2008, 08:50 AM
Apparently the scene containing Cap has been cut from the film (per LL). The scene was the one briefly shown in the trailers of Bruce in the Arctic, where he tries to commit suicide. It was cut for being too dark, but will be included in the DVD. My guess is there was a glimpse of frozen Cap, which would allow them to be fuzzy on the details as there is no actor or costume design as of yet.

A story on Newsarama, however, mentions that Marvel wants Leonardo DiCaprio for Cap...Good actor, but a bad fit for this role if you ask me.

I think great actors can make any role fit, I have no problem with leo playing cap.
The last few years Leo has done extremely solid work

IronPalm
06-14-2008, 08:52 AM
I know most people do not like this choice for Cap but I say Matthew McConaughey.

This because of his performance in the movie "reign of fire". McConaughey had great physical prowess and presence in that movie. I remember the scene when he and Christian Bale's character fought, and I thought at the time, "He could play Cap." He may be too old right now but that could be easily changed. Men in their 30s fought in WWII. Just watch his performance in that movie and tell me he could now pull it off.

McConaughey is usually in terrible movies, he would probably damn the production by hi smere presence alone.
did you see two for the money:eek:

taozen
06-14-2008, 09:56 AM
Yes i saw it and the movie was not good. But his character in Reign of Fire surprised me. Check it out if you have not seen it. The movie had some plot holes in it but I saw cap in that performance.

Jmacq1
06-14-2008, 10:44 AM
Your vision of Cap is a manic-obsessive borderline psychotic?

Cap is badass, but he's not "crazy-badass" he's "He's just that good-badass." McConaughey was enjoyable in that role, but it was in no way, shape or form Captain America.

Leonardo Dicaprio? Good actor, but they'd have to force-feed him steroids to make him remotely credible as a "super soldier." He'd be a great pre-serum Rogers, though.

Paul Walker? He's got the look and a good athletic build, but outside of "Running Scared" he's always seemed pretty bland to me. That, and in my head I had him pegged to play Havok in the inevitable X-Men 5. Still, he's also pretty "low wattage" as far as star power goes. He'd be affordable, and probably love to take on the role if it were offered to him, but I'm not sure he brings enough to the table to hang the movie (and to a lesser extent the "Cinematic Marvel Universe") on his shoulders.

Brad Pitt? He's probably the best choice of the lot (and heck, some artists draw Cap as looking eerily like Brad Pitt anyway) but yeah, I think he's probably too high-priced for Marvel's tastes at this point. However the other factor to consider is that Pitt is a major draw in overseas markets and brings darn-near maximum "star power" to the role. For a film that's worried about its' international box office prospects, pulling in someone like Pitt might be worth the money...if he's interested. Then again, I never really would have pictured the two juniors (Robert Downey and Ed Norton) in superhero movies either..... Pitt doesn't seem like a guy that particularly avoids any type of movie, so I suppose it's not completely out of the question. However, outside of the Ocean's series....when was the last time you ever saw Brad Pitt signing on for a full franchise? I think I remember reading somewhere that he doesn't like to do sequels to his prior movies....

Baltho08
06-14-2008, 10:58 AM
They should get this guy:

http://extracine.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/eckhart.JPG

Aaron Eckhart; he looks the part, imo, and he's a good actor who's not too high profile.
Peace.

Jmacq1
06-14-2008, 11:07 AM
They should get this guy:

http://extracine.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/eckhart.JPG

Aaron Eckhart; he looks the part, imo, and he's a good actor who's not too high profile.
Peace.

He's also Harvey Dent/Two Face in the current "Batman/Dark Knight" franchise. I agree that he's a good actor and could probably pull it off, but I don't think too many people are up for doing multiple superhero franchises....

CaptainCanada
06-14-2008, 11:20 AM
Brad Pitt? He's probably the best choice of the lot (and heck, some artists draw Cap as looking eerily like Brad Pitt anyway) but yeah, I think he's probably too high-priced for Marvel's tastes at this point.
The bigger issue with Pitt (as with several other actors listed here) is age; he's mid-40s now, too old.

Cap's sort of a tricky character to cast, age-wise, since, starting out, he's in his early 20s, but he just seems a lot older than that.

IronPalm
06-14-2008, 01:30 PM
Yes i saw it and the movie was not good. But his character in Reign of Fire surprised me. Check it out if you have not seen it. The movie had some plot holes in it but I saw cap in that performance.

no joke, I saw Reign of Fire in the theatre, and went to sleep...I didn't fall asleep.
I liked him in Time to Kill and Frailty though.

would NOT wantto see him in a Marvel production.

IronPalm
06-14-2008, 01:39 PM
The bigger issue with Pitt (as with several other actors listed here) is age; he's mid-40s now, too old.

Cap's sort of a tricky character to cast, age-wise, since, starting out, he's in his early 20s, but he just seems a lot older than that.

Certain actors and add or lose 10 years in their acting. Pitt is one of the few who could do it.
I can see Leo doing pre AND post serum cap.
Would prefer Pitt as Thor anyway.

Abrojo
06-14-2008, 03:24 PM
Cap's sort of a tricky character to cast, age-wise, since, starting out, he's in his early 20s, but he just seems a lot older than that.

You are underestimating what the magic of movies can achieve. They could very well make an early 40's or late 30's look the part with makeup, lightning and camera angles.

Also would prefer they sidestep canon a bit and cast older than go for strict timeline and cast a 20 year old. Much more believable.

smartalek
06-14-2008, 03:50 PM
saw this posted on another site....

Now that we’ve gotten Captain America’s non-cameo in The Incredible Hulk sorted out, we can all get back to figuring out who is actually going to play Cap, once he finally gets his solo movie. A few weeks ago we told you that Matthew McConaughey might be in consideration, now the guys at Latino Review have come up with a pair of fairly obvious names which they think Marvel may want.

They say Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt are at the top of Marvel’s Captain America wish list. I’m not sure how much of a revelation that actually is, since they’re probably at the top of every studio’s wishlist for every major, male role (and maybe even a few female ones). I also have hard time thinking of a situation in which either of them would be interested, again because everyone wants them, and because they’ve both done a good job of staying pretty far away from the whole superhero thing till now.

DiCaprio is built like a scarecrow. He’s a great actor, but Captain America? I don’t think so. Pitt could pull it off easily enough I suppose, it just seems so obvious. Plus, Pitt has already been rumored for other Marvel roles like Thor, and nothing ever came of those. He’s the default every anonymous scooper goes for when they send in one of these rumor stories. Besides, wasn’t the word on Marvel that they were trying to keep the cost of these movies reasonable? Getting either of these actors is going to mean one heck of a big paycheck. I just don’t see either of these guys ever showing up in any Marvel movie.

Marvel should start to take care of the talent that is already working or have just recently worked for them, before pissing off more people in Hollywood. Ed Norton, Jon Favreau, do they want to add more big names to their list of people they have pissed off? They are treating people as disposable, they need to really stop that, before they go into mid 90s mode again.

CaptainCanada
06-14-2008, 04:23 PM
Ed Norton, Jon Favreau, do they want to add more big names to their list of people they have pissed off?
In Edward Norton's case, I've heard he's often hard to work with.

losder6000
06-14-2008, 04:55 PM
Tom Jane! The guy played Mickey Mantle!

BugsySig
06-14-2008, 08:08 PM
i don't usually get snippy on the boards, but I have to let it out...

There's no way--zero, zip, zilch chance--Marvel is going to cast Thomas Jane, Aaron Ekhart or any other actor who has already portrayed a major Marvel or DC superhero (or villain) as Cap.

Nor will they be casting any Pro-Wrestlers (ala John Cina) unless its for the role of "Giant Nazi Cap Kills #4."

And despite any "rumors" about Leo or Brad, and no matter how much Marvel may want them, I have serious doubts either of them would take the part (Although Brad might based on his relationship with Ed Norton, though it is still doubtful).

That doesn't mean they can't get a good actor who fits the part, just PLEASE--for the love of Galactus!--stop suggesting the same tired cast of used up super-hero actors, Pro-Wrestlers and [insert name of blonde blockbuster actor here] for the role!

The only thing worse is the constant barage of posters who suggest Triple H for the role of Thor...Sure, and lets cast Hulk Hogan as Odin and Randy Savage as Loki and the Fabulous Mulah as the Enchantress...That's the surest bet for a blockbuster since No Holds Barred!

TotalWorldDomination
06-14-2008, 10:05 PM
i don't usually get snippy on the boards, but I have to let it out...

There's no way--zero, zip, zilch chance--Marvel is going to cast Thomas Jane, Aaron Ekhart or any other actor who has already portrayed a major Marvel or DC superhero (or villain) as Cap.

Nor will they be casting any Pro-Wrestlers (ala John Cina) unless its for the role of "Giant Nazi Cap Kills #4."

And despite any "rumors" about Leo or Brad, and no matter how much Marvel may want them, I have serious doubts either of them would take the part (Although Brad might based on his relationship with Ed Norton, though it is still doubtful).

That doesn't mean they can't get a good actor who fits the part, just PLEASE--for the love of Galactus!--stop suggesting the same tired cast of used up super-hero actors, Pro-Wrestlers and [insert name of blonde blockbuster actor here] for the role!

The only thing worse is the constant barage of posters who suggest Triple H for the role of Thor...Sure, and lets cast Hulk Hogan as Odin and Randy Savage as Loki and the Fabulous Mulah as the Enchantress...That's the surest bet for a blockbuster since No Holds Barred!

Hear, Hear. Pro-Wrestling suggestions are basically useless, and to cast someone who is already Identifiable as a superhero or supervillian in a recent film would be counter-productive. I would say Tom Jane actually doesn't count since most people wouldn't recognize him as Punisher, but still, the fact he's already appeared in one comic pic harms his chances greatly.

I'm pulling for one of these guys-

Older Caps-

Jason Lewis- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507314/

Paul Walker- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0908094/

Younger Caps-

Jonathan Jackson- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005044/

Scott Porter- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2187603/

gorthon616
06-14-2008, 10:07 PM
Hear, Hear. Pro-Wrestling suggestions are basically useless, and to cast someone who is already Identifiable as a superhero or supervillian in a recent film would be counter-productive. I would say Tom Jane actually doesn't count since most people wouldn't recognize him as Punisher, but still, the fact he's already appeared in one comic pic harms his chances greatly.

I'm pulling for one of these guys-

Older Caps-

Jason Lewis- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507314/

Paul Walker- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0908094/

Younger Caps-

Jonathan Jackson- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005044/

Scott Porter- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2187603/

Paul Walker?!?! ::vomits::

Monty_Cristo
06-15-2008, 06:26 AM
Tom Jane is a pretty good actor, he's in good shape, and he looks the part.

does he? i don't really see it. i don't think he has the Steve Rogers smile. Jane looks kind of skeevy when he smiles, to me. i feel the same way about Matthew McConnaughey. when i think of potential captain americas i always look at the eyes and smile first. when you're trying out for the role of Captain America, you're really running for public office.

but i could be wrong. anyways, as awful as it would be i think Ben Affleck is the closest physical match (age, height, and features). it's too bad that he's not a better actor and already did Daredevil.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3760822272/nm0000255

SquidSquod
06-15-2008, 06:30 AM
If they can do a soft reboot of the hulk after Ang Lee they can recycle Tom Jane.


Wrong analogy.

They reuse the character, not recycle the actor.

losder6000
06-15-2008, 03:11 PM
It wasn't a direct analogy, the inference is that if the comic book movie audience is sophisticated enough to set apart two sequential but very distinct versions of the Hulk, then it follows that they can easily disregard a crappy Punisher movie they mostly didn't watch. (Sorry Punisher fans and scientologists!)

Not to mention, by that time, there will have been a second crappy Punisher movie starring someone else to further distinguish the actor from the role.

In that same vein, they ought to kick Tobey off Spider-man and replace him with Topher Grace. IT'S WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN!! SKRULLS!! WIZARDS!!

Captain America always signals the end times for comic book live action, no matter the decade, so they might as well make me happy, because 30 years from now I'll be the only one renting the thing from Blockbuster. Much like I do with the Reb Brown movies, and *shudder* Salinger's flick.

I suppose if we can't get a solid character actor, my next choice is a Guatemalan dwarf with a lisp and a cow lick. Given the stakes, this movie might then herald the end of Western civilization. Which will actually work out great when I'm running my dvd player on the old diesel generator and blasting away at zombies, cause I will have something to mst3k (I will secretly still love the movie like an 8 year old, but the zombies will be fooled because they're zombies, unless they're dirty cheating running zombies and in that case I'm going to take my replica Cap shield off the wall, clutch issue #100 in my right fist, and charge the horde. I believe you can guess my alliterative battle cry).

DeadXMan
06-15-2008, 07:59 PM
i don't usually get snippy on the boards, but I have to let it out...

There's no way--zero, zip, zilch chance--Marvel is going to cast Thomas Jane, Aaron Ekhart or any other actor who has already portrayed a major Marvel or DC superhero (or villain) as Cap.

Nor will they be casting any Pro-Wrestlers (ala John Cina) unless its for the role of "Giant Nazi Cap Kills #4."

And despite any "rumors" about Leo or Brad, and no matter how much Marvel may want them, I have serious doubts either of them would take the part (Although Brad might based on his relationship with Ed Norton, though it is still doubtful).


if that dose happen I so want to see a CW movie or armor wars adaptaion just so I can see them fight each other again

Rolltideguy77
06-16-2008, 03:22 AM
These are my pics for Steve, Paul Walker/Daniel Craig. I could see either playing the role well possibly even in the same movie as younger/older versions of Steve. Matt Damon isnt big enough physically to be Steve to me, he comes across much more Winter Soldier/Bucky.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q114/Rolltideguy77/a.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q114/Rolltideguy77/paul-walker.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q114/Rolltideguy77/25.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q114/Rolltideguy77/craig.jpg

Rolltideguy77
06-16-2008, 03:43 AM
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a100234/dicaprio-rumoured-for-captain-america.html

Check that link out, I just found it. Basically it says Marvel's first choice for Cap is Leonardo DiCaprio and their second choice is Brad Pitt. Brad seems to be their first choice to play Thor.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/lamagna86/leonardo_dicaprio.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll187/leanmichelle/brad-pitt-and-edward-norton.jpg

Pyro
06-16-2008, 04:26 AM
My 2 cents - I've always thought that Matt Damon would make a good Cap. I've never seen the Bourne movies, but he had a really strong All-American charm in Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron. However, Tom Jane seems like an equally good choice (I'm basing this on looks as I have not seen The Punisher). Aaron Eckhart looks pretty Steve-Rogerish already, but he also looks a little too old. That said, they are all about the same age and height (at least, according to IMDB): Damon - 1970, 5' 10"; Jane - 1969 5' 10"; Eckhart - 1968, 5' 11". I don't think I would ever buy Leonardo DiCaprio as Cap.

if the Winter Soldier were ever to appear, i'd want James Marsden to play him.I think James Marsden is too pretty to be badass. Maybe I'm not giving him enough credit, but that's what I think.

Hear, Hear. Pro-Wrestling suggestions are basically useless, and to cast someone who is already Identifiable as a superhero or supervillian in a recent film would be counter-productive. I would say Tom Jane actually doesn't count since most people wouldn't recognize him as Punisher, but still, the fact he's already appeared in one comic pic harms his chances greatly.

I'm pulling for one of these guys-

Jason Lewis- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507314/I don't see why actors who have already been in comic book films wouldn't be likely to be cast. Halle Berry was Storm and Catwoman. James Marsden was in both X-Men and Superman Returns.

In any case, that Jason Lewis sure is blond and chisled. He's also the youngest thus far of the actors I've mentioned in this post--he was born in 1971. I think it's important that Cap be kept relatively young. Hopefully, whoever portrays him can pull off younger than 30, because I doubt an actor younger than 30 will be chosen.

I imagine it'll be really tough to pull off before-and-after Steve Rogers. Going with two different actors is an option, but that might hurt the audience's connection with the character, if when he becomes a "hero" he's literally a different person than he started out as. Perhaps the movie could do it digitally, editing a young skinny dude's face to look more like whoever they cast as Cap. Also, I think it would be awesome to see a movie-style reproduction of Cap punching Hitler in the face. That would probably use the same technology.

I think the Cap movie would be best as a period piece, taking place only during WWII. They should end with Cap falling into suspended animation with a teaser for him returning in the Avengers movie. That would be a great ending, since not a lot of movies end with the hero's defeat, but it would be continued so it would really build anticipation for Avengers. I also think it would be really cool to frame the story around Americans reacting to Cap in a black and white newsreel.

saintsaucey
06-16-2008, 04:26 AM
Hear, Hear. Pro-Wrestling suggestions are basically useless, and to cast someone who is already Identifiable as a superhero or supervillian in a recent film would be counter-productive. I would say Tom Jane actually doesn't count since most people wouldn't recognize him as Punisher, but still, the fact he's already appeared in one comic pic harms his chances greatly.

Scott Porter- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2187603/
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/36/44/0000043644_20071004105220.jpg


Oh yeah just imagine him holding a shield instead of a football and NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, That kid is so fuggly. He is by far the weekest link in the friday night lights cast.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/The-Gorgeous-Jensen-Ackles-jensen-ackles-40870_374_500.jpg

http://www.prweb.com/prfiles/2007/11/27/284715/brownjacketorangetshirt.jpg

or

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/04/18/0000040418_20070611133504.jpg

saintsaucey
06-16-2008, 04:30 AM
and if they go with Damon then they could use this kid as the pre serum cap

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/95/52/0000009552_20060920163101.jpg

http://www.blogdecine.com/archivos/images/MattDamon.JPG

Pyro
06-16-2008, 04:36 AM
http://www.prweb.com/prfiles/2007/11/27/284715/brownjacketorangetshirt.jpg
Is that George Stults? He's actually a very good pick. Nice find.

However, I say no no no no to Jensen Ackles.

Rolltideguy77
06-16-2008, 04:42 AM
I am absolutely baffled as to why anyone sees Matt Damon as Cap. He doesn't even remotely remind me of Steve. I just don't see it. Am I missing something? I saw him in the Bourne movies but again I just can't get a Cap vibe. Daniel Craig seems much more the war-torn hunky hero but of course all this is purely my opinion :biggrin:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k263/Dzneyfreek/33b.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q114/Rolltideguy77/25.jpg

saintsaucey
06-16-2008, 04:45 AM
Is that George Stults? He's actually a very good pick. Nice find.

However, I say no no no no to Jensen Ackles.

Why may I ask? He's played a hard ass fighter in just about everything I have seen him in. and yes it is George Stults. Daniel Craig and Aaron Eckart are too old.

pepmanxego
06-16-2008, 04:46 AM
Hi, guys...

I'm not sure about what you're expecting from a marvel movie... last adaptations from Punisher or Ghost Rider were not "real" at all.

I hope to see a adult vision of the heroe, based on the IIWW, with no "star" starring it, but a good script and a better director.

By the way, can you take a look to my blog and tell me what do you think about it?

http://lorenlorente.blogspot.com/

Thanks a lot

Rolltideguy77
06-16-2008, 04:49 AM
My pick for Red Skull is Tim Curry. I mean if he can make clowns effing terrifying and trannies into sexual singing superstars I am certain he could do the same for RS.
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm189/mikinact/pennywise.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/ravenzchilde/tim.gif

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/kittykat183/curry.jpg

saintsaucey
06-16-2008, 04:49 AM
Hi, guys...

I'm not sure about what you're expecting from a marvel movie... last adaptations from Punisher or Ghost Rider were not "real" at all.

I hope to see a adult vision of the heroe, based on the IIWW, with no "star" starring it, but a good script and a better director.

By the way, can you take a look to my blog and tell me what do you think about it?

http://lorenlorente.blogspot.com/

Thanks a lot

um no. we're talking about movies like iron man and hulk and batman begins and batman the dark knight the more realistic comic book movies

Rolltideguy77
06-16-2008, 04:56 AM
Why may I ask? He's played a hard ass fighter in just about everything I have seen him in. and yes it is George Stults. Daniel Craig and Aaron Eckart are too old.

Jensen is a bit too boyish for my tastes. I place Cap's age at 35-45, Bucky being 14-20. Cap to me should be a hardened man. He's been through a hell of a lot, it should show a little. Jensen is a little too pretty and I have never seen him as a hard assed fighter except for the occasional punch/kick combo on Supernatural. He never fought all those years he was on Days of Our Lives.

saintsaucey
06-16-2008, 04:59 AM
Jensen is a bit too boyish for my tastes. I place Cap's age at 35-45, Bucky being 14-20. Cap to me should be a hardened man. He's been through a hell of a lot, it should show a little. Jensen is a little too pretty and I have never seen him as a hard assed fighter except for the occasional punch/kick combo on Supernatural. He never fought all those years he was on Days of Our Lives.

Check out Dark Angel and Smallville Season four. I didn't know he was in Days Of Our Lives was he playing brady black or someone else

Pyro
06-16-2008, 05:02 AM
Why may I ask? He's played a hard ass fighter in just about everything I have seen him in. and yes it is George Stults. Daniel Craig and Aaron Eckart are too old.Oh, I'm just going off of the pictures I've seen. I don't see any Steve Rogers in him. And when I try to picture him in a Cap costume, or alongside RDJ and Norton... I just can't. That's just my opinion, not that it's worth anything.

At the moment, I think George Stults for the win!

Rolltideguy77
06-16-2008, 05:03 AM
I forgot about him being on Smallville, I liked him on that. He played long lost Eric Brady on Days.

Pyro
06-16-2008, 05:30 AM
Jensen is a bit too boyish for my tastes. I place Cap's age at 35-45, Bucky being 14-20. Cap to me should be a hardened man. He's been through a hell of a lot, it should show a little. Jensen is a little too pretty and I have never seen him as a hard assed fighter except for the occasional punch/kick combo on Supernatural. He never fought all those years he was on Days of Our Lives.I can see how you may have come up with those age approximations, but I think you're a bit off. Unfortunately, I don't have my Cap comics on hand, but he was in his early 20's during WWII. I believe Brubaker established Bucky as being about 3 or so years younger than Cap. So by the time Cap joined the Avengers, his body shouldn't look more than 30 (and that's pushing it, I think) which is the timeframe the movies are going for.

I agree about Jensen looking "a little too pretty" though.

Rolltideguy77
06-16-2008, 05:45 AM
If Cap didn't look more than 30 that would put him in the Peter Parker age range. Cap should be a good 15-20 years older than Pete I would think. That's interesting though, does anyone know Steve's age? Did the serum slow his aging process?
I could see them wanting a younger Cap for movie purposes however. Im not even certain they will go the whole frozen in a block of ice since WW2. They might update it a bit and have him getting serum to fight terrorists in modern day.

saintsaucey
06-16-2008, 05:48 AM
I can see how you may have come up with those age approximations, but I think you're a bit off. Unfortunately, I don't have my Cap comics on hand, but he was in his early 20's during WWII. I believe Brubaker established Bucky as being about 3 or so years younger than Cap. So by the time Cap joined the Avengers, his body shouldn't look more than 30 (and that's pushing it, I think) which is the timeframe the movies are going for.

I agree about Jensen looking "a little too pretty" though.
Bucky and Cap are probably about same age now with bucky being brought out of stasis

Pyro
06-16-2008, 06:03 AM
If Cap didn't look more than 30 that would put him in the Peter Parker age range. Cap should be a good 15-20 years older than Pete I would think. That's interesting though, does anyone know Steve's age? Did the serum slow his aging process?
I could see them wanting a younger Cap for movie purposes however. Im not even certain they will go the whole frozen in a block of ice since WW2. They might update it a bit and have him getting serum to fight terrorists in modern day.Actually, you're half right. At the time Cap was revived, Peter Parker was still in high school wasn't he? So he's still about 15 years younger than Cap. I've seen that Cap's birthdate is July 4, 1917 but I personally haven't read any comics that concretely establish that.

Bucky and Cap are probably about same age now with bucky being brought out of stasisIf I remember correctly, Bucky only accumulated about 5-7 years out of stasis before being brought back permanently in the most recent volume of Cap. So Steve still has some years on him as he has been revived for... quite a while. It really sucks that I don't have my back issues on me, so I can't really back up any of my points.

IronPalm
06-16-2008, 06:35 AM
i don't usually get snippy on the boards, but I have to let it out...

There's no way--zero, zip, zilch chance--Marvel is going to cast Thomas Jane, Aaron Ekhart or any other actor who has already portrayed a major Marvel or DC superhero (or villain) as Cap.

Nor will they be casting any Pro-Wrestlers (ala John Cina) unless its for the role of "Giant Nazi Cap Kills #4."

And despite any "rumors" about Leo or Brad, and no matter how much Marvel may want them, I have serious doubts either of them would take the part (Although Brad might based on his relationship with Ed Norton, though it is still doubtful).

That doesn't mean they can't get a good actor who fits the part, just PLEASE--for the love of Galactus!--stop suggesting the same tired cast of used up super-hero actors, Pro-Wrestlers and [insert name of blonde blockbuster actor here] for the role!

The only thing worse is the constant barage of posters who suggest Triple H for the role of Thor...Sure, and lets cast Hulk Hogan as Odin and Randy Savage as Loki and the Fabulous Mulah as the Enchantress...That's the surest bet for a blockbuster since No Holds Barred!

It also burns my ass a bit when people grab crappy TV actors and suggest them, as if someone will put a multi-million dollar franchise on the line for some kid off of Dawson's Creek

VanEyck
06-16-2008, 07:57 AM
Say it ain't so!!!

Leo DiCaprio may be cast as Cap!!!

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/06/captain-ameri-1.html

Jmacq1
06-16-2008, 08:44 AM
Not to be too much of a naysayer but...I'd think they'd probably cast Thor before they worry about casting Cap (particularly since I don't think either has a finished script at the moment). After all...Thor's coming out a year sooner.

I wouldn't expect much solid news on Cap casting until they have things like a half-finished script, director, etc.... Probably about a year from now when production will actually need to ramp up. Plus, whoever they cast as Cap is probably filming Captain America and the Avengers movie back-to-back.

And last but not least, the article that link is referencing makes it very clear that Leonardo DiCaprio probably hasn't even been contacted yet. In other words...nothing new, and he might not even be interested. It's nothing more than a rumor/speculation.

Rolltideguy77
06-16-2008, 09:52 AM
I honestly doubt either Leo or Brad Pitt would be interested in the roles. Doesn't seem to really fit their past preferences in roles they go after. Both are incredible actors however.

Jmacq1
06-16-2008, 10:16 AM
I honestly doubt either Leo or Brad Pitt would be interested in the roles. Doesn't seem to really fit their past preferences in roles they go after. Both are incredible actors however.

I don't think either of them would likely be opposed to playing a superhero, though Pitt seems to have made a few more choices that lean in that direction than DiCaprio.

However I think the sticking point is that neither of these guys (with the exception of the Ocean's series for Pitt, but I think we can safely say that's an anomaly more out of friendship than a desire for cash) are known for being franchise actors. They tend to shoot for "one and done" self-contained movies. Committing to these Marvel films may well tie them up for longer than they care to be tied up for.

To put it another way: Both of these guys seem to enjoy taking on the kind of roles they haven't really played before, and since neither have done superhero films, I could see them trying it out. However neither of them tend to make much in the way of sequels to their prior movies, so becoming "franchise players" seems out of place for them.

Rolltideguy77
06-16-2008, 10:57 AM
I don't think either of them would likely be opposed to playing a superhero, though Pitt seems to have made a few more choices that lean in that direction than DiCaprio.

However I think the sticking point is that neither of these guys (with the exception of the Ocean's series for Pitt, but I think we can safely say that's an anomaly more out of friendship than a desire for cash) are known for being franchise actors. They tend to shoot for "one and done" self-contained movies. Committing to these Marvel films may well tie them up for longer than they care to be tied up for.

To put it another way: Both of these guys seem to enjoy taking on the kind of roles they haven't really played before, and since neither have done superhero films, I could see them trying it out. However neither of them tend to make much in the way of sequels to their prior movies, so becoming "franchise players" seems out of place for them.

Very true. I also sort of worry about ego issues when you get several high profile names attached to one project. In the instance of Avengers say Pitt, Dicaprio, Norton, Downey Jr., Samuel L. Jackson and a couple others names were all together I could see some possible issues arising over who got bigger parts, bigger paychecks, etc.

Jmacq1
06-16-2008, 11:17 AM
Funny enough, I don't really see that as a problem. Most of these guys have a reputation for being pretty professional when it comes to their acting. Pitt and Norton have worked together before (and worked with other "stars" in ensemble films before), Samuel L. Jackson never seems to have a problem with playing a supporting role, and DiCaprio and Downey seem to be more concerned about their performances than their egos.

I do agree, however, that despite all that talent, the film could still end up being bad...particularly if the talent seems wasted. If it's not, though...the film could be glorious. Downey, Norton, Pitt and DiCaprio playing off of each other? That could be totally awesome to see on-screen. More importantly to the film/studio, it's the kind of cast that gets people that don't give a hoot about comic books or superhero movies into the theaters.

Monty_Cristo
06-16-2008, 02:16 PM
I am absolutely baffled as to why anyone sees Matt Damon as Cap. He doesn't even remotely remind me of Steve. I just don't see it. Am I missing something? I saw him in the Bourne movies but again I just can't get a Cap vibe. Daniel Craig seems much more the war-torn hunky hero but of course all this is purely my opinion


i think Daniel Craig would make a shtty Cap. but i agree with you that the Matt Damon casting always confuses me. he just doesn't have the look.

StoneGold
06-16-2008, 02:21 PM
Damon's pug face would look pretty goofy behind an exposed facemask. He doesn't have the chin for it.

Monty_Cristo
06-16-2008, 02:22 PM
I think James Marsden is too pretty to be badass. Maybe I'm not giving him enough credit, but that's what I think.

i know what you mean. and this is only my 2 cents but i've always considered Bucky to be too "pretty" to be badass. seriously, do you look at bucky and see badass? why?

It also burns my ass a bit when people grab crappy TV actors and suggest them, as if someone will put a multi-million dollar franchise on the line for some kid off of Dawson's Creek

Tom Hanks started on a tv series. so did Johnny Depp.

Jmacq1
06-16-2008, 03:36 PM
To say nothing of the guy that's arguably (his buddy Brad Pitt being his number one competition) the number one western "movie star" in the world: George Clooney

(Noting him as someone that worked on TV, not as a potential Cap candidate, just to be clear)

DeadXMan
06-16-2008, 04:21 PM
To say nothing of the guy that's arguably (his buddy Brad Pitt being his number one competition) the number one western "movie star" in the world: George Clooney

(Noting him as someone that worked on TV, not as a potential Cap candidate, just to be clear)

to even think about putting him in another superhero movie is punishible by death in some states:evilangry:

Zombiezilla
06-16-2008, 04:28 PM
Though he is Two Face, I seen Aaron Eckhart being a pretty good Steve Rogers. Well, his face is right, obviously some bulking up would be needed.

Monty_Cristo
06-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Though he is Two Face, I seen Aaron Eckhart being a pretty good Steve Rogers. Well, his face is right, obviously some bulking up would be needed.

you're not the only one. i don't see it, at all. he looks like Henry Pym to me. why? because his face has too much of everything. don't get me wrong; he's a good-looking guy. but it's like all of the good characteristics (i.e. smile, strong chin, etc) are exaggerated. i think he'd look really goofy if he were wearing Cap's mask; almost like a 'Scary Movie' version of Captain America. that's how i picture Henry Pym. i've always imagined Steve Rogers having very simple features.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3429800448/nm0001173

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/17809/335912-198752-captain-america_super.JPG
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2798360064/nm1475594

Captain America Fanatic
06-16-2008, 05:56 PM
I found this great site with all the news and information updates for the new movie.

Check it out!!!! (http://www.captainamericamovie.wordpress.com)

TotalWorldDomination
06-16-2008, 06:06 PM
In any case, that Jason Lewis sure is blond and chisled. He's also the youngest thus far of the actors I've mentioned in this post--he was born in 1971. I think it's important that Cap be kept relatively young. Hopefully, whoever portrays him can pull off younger than 30, because I doubt an actor younger than 30 will be chosen.

I imagine it'll be really tough to pull off before-and-after Steve Rogers. Going with two different actors is an option, but that might hurt the audience's connection with the character, if when he becomes a "hero" he's literally a different person than he started out as. Perhaps the movie could do it digitally, editing a young skinny dude's face to look more like whoever they cast as Cap. Also, I think it would be awesome to see a movie-style reproduction of Cap punching Hitler in the face. That would probably use the same technology.

I'd like to see Jason Lewis play cap circa 1944 and have someone else (Scott Porter or someone along those lines) play cap circa 1938-39.

Oh yeah just imagine him holding a shield instead of a football and NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, That kid is so fuggly. He is by far the weekest link in the friday night lights cast.

I'm going to go with no, on that one. He's not "Fugly" and I've never seen Friday Night Lights, I was thinking of him after seeing him portray Rex Racer in Speed Racer. He did a pretty darn good job of that.

As for you Daniel Craig boosters...He's not American! That would have been like them casting a non-brit to play harry potter... worse even! Captain AMERICA! AMERICA GOSH DARN IT!!! He needs to have all-AMERICAN looks!

That being said, I'd accept Damon, Pitt or even DiCaprio if they did a good enough job. But they'd need to earn it.

togeteiku42
06-16-2008, 07:29 PM
you're not the only one. i don't see it, at all. he looks like Henry Pym to me. why? because his face has too much of everything. don't get me wrong; he's a good-looking guy. but it's like all of the good characteristics (i.e. smile, strong chin, etc) are exaggerated. i think he'd look really goofy if he were wearing Cap's mask; almost like a 'Scary Movie' version of Captain America. that's how i picture Henry Pym. i've always imagined Steve Rogers having very simple features.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3429800448/nm0001173

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/17809/335912-198752-captain-america_super.JPG
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2798360064/nm1475594

I agree, Aaron Eckhart is pretty much exactly how i picture Henry Pym.

TradePaperbackTraitor
06-17-2008, 08:20 AM
Leonardo DiCaprio? That'll get Captain America off to a great start! Yeah, cast the one actor who was once referred to by John McCain as an "androgynous wimp." LOL

True or not, Latino Review's comments about Hollywood execs thinking of these guys is pretty much the same story you'll hear about any big budget movie. At one time, Hollywood execs wanted Robert Redford as Michael Corleone in the Godfather, Superman in the original 1977 film, and just about any big role that was up for casting in his glory days.

Every Hollywood exec always thinks a Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Robert Redford, Brad Pitt, etc. will be the ideal casting choice for their next popcorn blockbuster.

TotalWorldDomination
06-17-2008, 08:33 AM
I agree, Aaron Eckhart is pretty much exactly how i picture Henry Pym.

Motion Thirded.

Leonardo DiCaprio? That'll get Captain America off to a great start! Yeah, cast the one actor who was once referred to by John McCain as an "androgynous wimp." LOL

To be fair, John McCain could call pretty much anyone on earth an "androgynous wimp" and be allowed to say it, by the simple fact that he's one of the most kick-%@# people in existence </McCainWorship>

True or not, Latino Review's comments about Hollywood execs thinking of these guys is pretty much the same story you'll hear about any big budget movie. At one time, Hollywood execs wanted Robert Redford as Michael Corleone in the Godfather, Superman in the original 1977 film, and just about any big role that was up for casting in his glory days.

Every Hollywood exec always thinks a Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Robert Redford, Brad Pitt, etc. will be the ideal casting choice for their next popcorn blockbuster.

True, but remember, Marvel has nabbed some big-name people for recent films. Pitt and DiCaprio may be two of the biggest names in existance, but it's a slow but steady climb to the top for Marvel... First Robert Downey Jr, then Ed Norton...

Still casting Robert Redford would be interesting, I never thought to have a Cap that aged in real time since WWII :wink: :biggrin:

MaxofSteel
06-17-2008, 08:39 AM
Here's something I don't understand:

If footage of Cap was actually shot for the Incredible Hulk, why is it no one knows who the actor is? Shouldn't it have been leaked out by now?

TotalWorldDomination
06-17-2008, 09:00 AM
Here's something I don't understand:

If footage of Cap was actually shot for the Incredible Hulk, why is it no one knows who the actor is? Shouldn't it have been leaked out by now?

The scene was set in Antarctica, meaning that in all likelihood it was a pass over shot of someone lying in Ice holding the shield, or perhaps JUST of the shield.

MaxofSteel
06-17-2008, 09:25 AM
The scene was set in Antarctica, meaning that in all likelihood it was a pass over shot of someone lying in Ice holding the shield, or perhaps JUST of the shield.

That makes sense. Although, according to Captain America Fanatic's link, Cap was supposed to make a 70 minute appearance in the film.

And according to other threads I've read, Cap was also supposed to have stopped Bruce from offing himself.

Still, this could have been done by Bruce simply finding Cap's body in the ice.

Jmacq1
06-17-2008, 10:23 AM
That makes sense. Although, according to Captain America Fanatic's link, Cap was supposed to make a 70 minute appearance in the film.

And according to other threads I've read, Cap was also supposed to have stopped Bruce from offing himself.

Still, this could have been done by Bruce simply finding Cap's body in the ice.

No, that's a misquote. There were 70 minutes of film cut from Incredible Hulk, but most of it was Banner-centric stuff.

The "Captain America Cameo" remains something of a mystery, but chances are it was just a somewhat indistinct but still recognizable (from the costume) form in a block of ice. Unless they want a continuity error, can't be the shield, since Tony Stark has it.

MaxofSteel
06-17-2008, 10:41 AM
No, that's a misquote. There were 70 minutes of film cut from Incredible Hulk, but most of it was Banner-centric stuff.

Ah ok.

Unless they want a continuity error, can't be the shield, since Tony Stark has it.

My first assumption after seeing Cap's Shield in the Iron Man movie was that Tony had been in the process of creating a new (stronger) one for Steve. I wonder if this is at all likely.

gorthon616
06-17-2008, 12:36 PM
True, but remember, Marvel has nabbed some big-name people for recent films. Pitt and DiCaprio may be two of the biggest names in existance, but it's a slow but steady climb to the top for Marvel... First Robert Downey Jr, then Ed Norton...

Downey hasn't exactly been on the rise prior to Iron Man. And I heard that Norton was a big Marvel fan (or so I heard).

I will vomit as I watch the movie and it's cast with Pitt or DiCaprio. I mean I will still watch it, but I will vomit while I watch it.

Of course, I have no idea who I'd cast in the Captain America role... I depends a great deal on the script.

hysang
06-17-2008, 12:55 PM
Wasn't the internet up in arms about Robert Downey, Jr. when he was cast?

I'm not thrilled about the prospect of DiCaprio, either, but at least he's an actual actor and not a bodybuilder or wrestler like a lot of fans have suggested over the years. You need someone who is normal looking, who can bulk up...is well known, but not so well known they can't "disappear" into the role.

Brad Pitt would be a horrible choice, with his high profile and overexposure. Ditto for any other Hollywood pretty boy actor. DiCaprio has a rep, but he's enough of a secretive type that he could probably pull it off.

I remain skeptical but not in any way about to vomit or say he can't do it.

I still say go with an unknown. Go the Christopher Reeve route, pick an unknown guy, film him when he's skinny, then have him bulk up later. Or do the CGI thing like in the first Spider-Man...just put the actor in big bulky shirts to make him look like a skinny guy in bulky Depression-era clothing.

Jmacq1
06-17-2008, 01:20 PM
From what I recall, the Internet was fairly positive about Downey being cast as Stark. Or at the very least it was no more "up in arms" about it than it is any and every decision made regarding these kinds of properties (IE a few vocal folks decried it sight-unseen).

TotalWorldDomination
06-17-2008, 01:41 PM
From what I recall, the Internet was fairly positive about Downey being cast as Stark. Or at the very least it was no more "up in arms" about it than it is any and every decision made regarding these kinds of properties (IE a few vocal folks decried it sight-unseen).

I thought it was a great bit of casting personally, but then again, I wasn't thrilled by Ed Norton's casting (wasn't upset, but wasn't thrilled) and I was very pleased with his final performance.

So long as they book someone vaguely all-American looking who can act, I'll be happy.

Jmacq1
06-17-2008, 01:50 PM
Not that it's got a lot to do with anything, but it suddenly struck me as mildly disturbing that "all-american looking" is envisioned as a blonde haired, blue-eyed, clean-cut white guy.

Monty_Cristo
06-17-2008, 02:02 PM
Not that it's got a lot to do with anything, but it suddenly struck me as mildly disturbing that "all-american looking" is envisioned as a blonde haired, blue-eyed, clean-cut white guy.

they don't have to have blonde hair. i've heard the description used for brown-haired white guys too. all-american just means that you don't look "ethnic" or "foreign."

Wasn't the internet up in arms about Robert Downey, Jr. when he was cast?

I'm not thrilled about the prospect of DiCaprio, either, but at least he's an actual actor and not a bodybuilder or wrestler like a lot of fans have suggested over the years. You need someone who is normal looking, who can bulk up...is well known, but not so well known they can't "disappear" into the role.

Brad Pitt would be a horrible choice, with his high profile and overexposure. Ditto for any other Hollywood pretty boy actor. DiCaprio has a rep, but he's enough of a secretive type that he could probably pull it off.

I remain skeptical but not in any way about to vomit or say he can't do it.

I still say go with an unknown. Go the Christopher Reeve route, pick an unknown guy, film him when he's skinny, then have him bulk up later. Or do the CGI thing like in the first Spider-Man...just put the actor in big bulky shirts to make him look like a skinny guy in bulky Depression-era clothing.

Di Caprio can't bulk up.

gorthon616
06-17-2008, 02:07 PM
I thought it was a great bit of casting personally, but then again, I wasn't thrilled by Ed Norton's casting (wasn't upset, but wasn't thrilled) and I was very pleased with his final performance.

So long as they book someone vaguely all-American looking who can act, I'll be happy.

Norton could have been great, but they tried to play the character waaaayyy to clean and perfect.

StoneGold
06-17-2008, 04:07 PM
Wasn't the internet up in arms about Robert Downey, Jr. when he was cast?


For like 20 seconds. It was like Robert Downey Jr.? How dare... oh yeah, that actually works.


As to the skinny/buff thing, there's an easy way around this - have the film start with the origin. That way, you only get one shot of the non-buff Cap, and you can get a relative lookalike or something for him. Have him morph into the main actor.

Monty_Cristo
06-17-2008, 04:19 PM
For like 20 seconds. It was like Robert Downey Jr.? How dare... oh yeah, that actually works.


As to the skinny/buff thing, there's an easy way around this - have the film start with the origin. That way, you only get one shot of the non-buff Cap, and you can get a relative lookalike or something for him. Have him morph into the main actor.

CGI could make someone look frail/sickly. heck, they just put Mike Myers head on a little kid's body.

StoneGold
06-17-2008, 04:49 PM
CGI could make someone look frail/sickly. heck, they just put Mike Myers head on a little kid's body.

So how is that different from just Mike Myers?


You could do that in theory as well. Again, the trick is to keep it brief, start the movie with Project: Rebirth, get the origin out of the way fast and move on from there.

Monty_Cristo
06-17-2008, 05:05 PM
So how is that different from just Mike Myers?


You could do that in theory as well. Again, the trick is to keep it brief, start the movie with Project: Rebirth, get the origin out of the way fast and move on from there.

so they shouldn't spend some time humazing Rogers; showing him with his family?

StoneGold
06-17-2008, 05:07 PM
so they shouldn't spend some time humazing Rogers; showing him with his family?

Why, they never have in the books. His family was dead for years before Project: Rebirth. Even the book that went in-depth into the origin, The Adventures of Captain America, was there more to stretch out the training process prior to Steve getting buffed. In fact, part of the reason they chose him was because he had no family.

Jim Thompson
06-17-2008, 05:31 PM
Why, they never have in the books. His family was dead for years before Project: Rebirth. Even the book that went in-depth into the origin, The Adventures of Captain America, was there more to stretch out the training process prior to Steve getting buffed. In fact, part of the reason they chose him was because he had no family.I would think they'd have to spend some time showing him growing up in Brooklyn -- which would mean we'd get at least a couple of scenes with him and his mother. Nothing overboard -- more along the lines of how Stern portrayed his childhood.

StoneGold
06-17-2008, 05:39 PM
I would think they'd have to spend some time showing him growing up in Brooklyn -- which would mean we'd get at least a couple of scenes with him and his mother. Nothing overboard -- more along the lines of how Stern portrayed his childhood.

I'm going to heavily paraphrase Patton Oswalt here, but did we really need to see Darth Vader's childhood?


They didn't show us anything more than a single picture of Tony Stark as a kid. There was no Bruce Banner as a kid in the new film. No pre-pubescent Spider-Man. No L'il Wolvie. OK, yeah, there was Daredevil, but his childhood is part of his origin. And it weren't that great shakes.


Cap's childhood is not a part of his origin. Hell, it wasn't revealed for like 40 years after the character was created.