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Lanowar
03-08-2007, 01:35 AM
So Ultimate Spider-Man 106 is to me another strong issue ever since Clone Saga Bendis has found a second wind and this being Bagely's last arc it looks like it will be as explosive as ever. Let me give you the low down on what happened.

Spoilers Ahoy!

This issue begins with Damage Control working on Peter's house having been hired by Nick Fury to repair the damage. Peter gets his stuff but still hasn’t told Kitty Pyrde that it's over though he still doesn’t know that she saw him kissing Mary Jane. Next we cut to Aunt may in hospital where she and MJ try to talk about both knowing Peter is Spider-Man when they are interrupted by a news report saying that due to recent events including Nick Fury's comments about Spider-Man he is more popular then ever!

Wilson Fisk is being shown the report at the very same time curious was to why his stockholders are tormenting him. It transpires that one of the companies Fisk brought holds the rights to Spider-Man's likeness stretching back to his wrestling days which intrigues him and he orders it to be run into the ground by making as much money as they can.

Spidey web slings MJ to the Baxter building to have some tests and there's some peter Johnny banter before Peter leaves her to have some tests and goes to work where he's been fired. (A nice reference to "The Pegasus Project" of old 616 fame and also referenced in Ultimate Power) is made by urich who mentions it as a top story. Peter manages to keep his job since his aunt (who it seems JJJ might have a soft sport for) had a heart attack and also gives peter a raise to ensure she stays alright.

On his way out Fisk is shown a new costumed assassin (anyone tell me if that’s suppose to be a tribute to anyone?) who states "I kill people" when forced on the subject he is rumbled and is revealed to be Shang-Chi who fights off several guards before Kingpin throws him into a car and the guards shoot at him. Barely escaping he flees to the roof where Daredevil intervenes and saves his life and offers Chi membership to his little group.

Peter returns to pick up MJ and they talk about the Nightmares she's been having. The FF try to cheer her up by talking about there experiences but its clear the whole kaine thing has affected her in more ways then one. Cut to midtown high where Matt Murdoch who has been standing by the entrance stops peter and reveals that he is Daredevil and simply by listening to the kid's voices he was able to confirm that he was Spider-Ma. Matt tells peter in no uncertain terms that he needs to see him tonight on top of St. Patrick's cathedral and it is a good thing to because there going to kill the Kingpin.

Cut to in class where we meet Jessica Jones who’s a senior at midtown and head of the student press. (Yes it's a cameo unless she's got some future role to play) MJ and Peter pass notes about Daredevil and Kitty Pyrde and now telling her and how it would only get worse...and yes folks it does at that very moment a new student is introduced to Midtown High Miss Kitty Pyrde!

So all in all a good issue it seems that with Deadpool, Vampires etc Spidey lost track of what it was trying to do but this arc puts it back on track post Clone Saga. With a nice mix of story and characterization. Also we see Spidey move from this loner personna that he had of doing things "his" way to talking to The Fantastic Four and Daredevil. It seems to me like we're seeing the birth of the Ultimate Superhero Community with this issue somthing I personally will look forward too.

megabyte01
03-08-2007, 02:27 AM
i'm suprised there aren't more posts. i guess people were scared away by clone saga. i am glad i wasn't. this issue had many of the elements missing from the last year's arcs, such as peter constantly juggling his home life, work, school, and girlfriend as peter parker. when peter asked jameson for a raise, i was almost afraid to turn the page and see JJ explode until i remembered that ultimate jameson is a total softie compared to his other versions i'm glad he's back.

Some of my favorite moments in usm are when villians use ludicrus tactics to beat their opponents, such as doc ock calling a press conference way back. i wonder how far kingpin will carry out his plan of running spider-man's name into the ground?

Peter and MJ visiting the Fantastic Four was a nice touch. I doubt we'll see them again in this arc, but we'll see them in the next one, when MJ's 'cure' inevetably fails. (come on, do you really believe the cure is going to stick?)

daredevil, or rather matt murdock, was a bit of an oddity. he showed up at peter's school to advance the plot of course. daredevil's own comment about spider-man seems to justify him NOT recruiting peter in his crusade to kill the kingpin. his crusade also does not make sense considering he went to great legnths to try and persuade the punisher to stop killing dirty cops. he, and i mean Bendis, had better have a good justification for this in the next issue.

last, because it was on the last page, is kitty. did you really think it would be that easy to get rid of the stray cat? i imagine peter will be very willing to help daredevil's crusade after getting an earful from his two love interests.

all in all, it was a good issue. it felt like an earlier issue because it touched on all the elements of peter's life that have been practically absent for two years. the book had only one, passable action sequence, which was acceptable because this issue was still dealing with the fallout from the last issue (i think that excuse will be used a lot for the upcoming reviews). the art was good, except sue storm still looks like gwen. i'd give it a slightly generous 8/10. now, when's the next issue come out?

Xanrn
03-08-2007, 05:08 AM
Where exactly did Kitty see MJ and Peter kiss becase I have read 105 plenty of times and I still don't know what your talking about.

Kefky
03-08-2007, 05:37 AM
I can't image why anyone would want to drop the book after this issue. The book's supporting cast is stronger than ever now, and I just really feel like reading more stories with these people.

And I love how crazy ultimate DD is, telling he's gonna kill the Kingpin to a kid in public. :D

MaxofSteel
03-08-2007, 05:37 AM
Where exactly did Kitty see MJ and Peter kiss becase I have read 105 plenty of times and I still don't know what your talking about.

There's a full page zoom of Kitty witnessing the kiss, just before the scene where MJ sees Kaine in the mirror.

Red Lotus
03-08-2007, 05:50 AM
Good issue. I'm glad that kitty left the X-men and is now in USM. She was one of the best things to happen in this book and it looks like she is going to be an even bigger part. I hope they touch on Professor X death some what next issue.

Sparda
03-08-2007, 06:44 AM
I can't image why anyone would want to drop the book after this issue. The book's supporting cast is stronger than ever now, and I just really feel like reading more stories with these people.

And I love how crazy ultimate DD is, telling he's gonna kill the Kingpin to a kid in public. :D

Heh thing is people are just a bunch of annoying fanboy's who happen to be bendis haters. Some, don't like this book, cause it's not thier cub of tea or Gwen stacy dying (only part that pissed me off out of the series) but rest just Hate bendis.

I really loved this issue. It's the number one book I always read out of my pull and the number one I look foward to most.

I lol when one of the wrecking crew, the black guy said "hey babe" to MJ and she was quick to say "I'm 15" and it just went into silence right then and him whisling. That had me laughing. Loved the character interactions (hell even deadpool had fun character interaction) really found it funny that Spider-man became the most popular hero all of a sudden. Bugle, everything.

You guys do realize that Jessica Jones, just made an ultimate appearance right? She's the student who was babbling about her being a senior and needing people to help the school's TV program. I really liked the Kitty Pride bit at the end. I like her as a fun supporting cast of spider-man and I'll be seeing alot of fun teen interactions between Kitty and MJ along with Pete. Also if she tries to flirt with Pete, Kong will have his suspicions of Peter being spidey again lol.

All around good issue and I hope Bendis never leaves this book.

myslead
03-08-2007, 08:33 AM
man, the wrecking crew as Damage Control makes so much sense!

good issue.

Shadow ES
03-08-2007, 11:29 AM
daredevil, or rather matt murdock, was a bit of an oddity. he showed up at peter's school to advance the plot of course. daredevil's own comment about spider-man seems to justify him NOT recruiting peter in his crusade to kill the kingpin. his crusade also does not make sense considering he went to great legnths to try and persuade the punisher to stop killing dirty cops. he, and i mean Bendis, had better have a good justification for this in the next issue.


At the end of the last annual, Daredevil and Punisher both saw Peter grow up a little when DeWolf died. And it would make sense that DD would want to mentor spider-man into becomeing a good superhero rather than let him mess up.

Joe Acro
03-08-2007, 02:17 PM
Finally, an issue that makes sense from front to back! This is what I've been wanting for months!

This is definitely an improvement on several months prior. It isn't a great issue, but it's good enough that I might stick around a bit longer. If the rest of the arc is at least as good as this issue, I might stay after Bagley leaves.

A few problems: Shang-Chi treated like an amateur? Someone else learning Peter's identity? Is this Kitty thing coordinated with Ultimate X? (I know Kitty left the mansion, but I thought she was going home.)

Other than those, a solid issue.

Jack
03-08-2007, 03:35 PM
A few problems: Shang-Chi treated like an amateur?He is an amateur. He's a great fighter, not an actor or a spy. He came up with a plan to get him to the Kingpin (which worked), he just failed to pull it off convincingly.

Lanowar
03-08-2007, 04:01 PM
Who was Shang-Chi suppose to be impersonating was it suppose to be anyone in particular or a random costume? I get the impression Bendis would'nt just make a new costume he'd use someone as a joke.

Also Jessica Jones! finally makes her apperance, and then we get Ronin later in this arc it's like Bagely's getting everything in one final send off!

sgt pepper
03-08-2007, 05:41 PM
Heh thing is people are just a bunch of annoying fanboy's who happen to be bendis haters. Some, don't like this book, cause it's not thier cub of tea or Gwen stacy dying (only part that pissed me off out of the series) but rest just Hate bendis.


Or it could be that there have been some genuinely weak issues over the last year or two.

This isn't one of them. Perfect issue for this series. Finally, the teen drama returns. Some very nice Jameson moments. And the return of Kingpin (easily Spidey's best villain in this series).

Hi-Fi
03-08-2007, 06:16 PM
Or it could be that there have been some genuinely weak issues over the last year or two.

This isn't one of them. Perfect issue for this series. Finally, the teen drama returns. Some very nice Jameson moments. And the return of Kingpin (easily Spidey's best villain in this series).
Agreed on all accounts. This issue just brought the fun back.

ultimatespyder20
03-08-2007, 06:46 PM
A really fun issue, and a great start to the new arc. Kitty as the new student should be an interesting aspect to play with in the series, I just hope she isn't Ult. Ronin. I like the fact DD is now starting to like Peter a bit, and allow him in on things. I also like that Aunt May is now in on all the action, she'll get to know Peter more. I can't wait to see the talk they have when she gets better. I also loved the Daily Bugle scene, I missed the guys at the Bugle in the series. Then we have Jessica Jones as a Senior at Midtown, :D. Great issue, this just brought all the fun back.

Alec

bbmakdaddycomics
03-08-2007, 07:04 PM
can somebody please tell me the answers to the questions in the back of the book that jason white asked?

Kefky
03-09-2007, 07:50 AM
Or it could be that there have been some genuinely weak issues over the last year or two.


For the record, I was only talking about this issue. :)

I agree that there've been some weak issues, but it's stuff like this that shows why the book is still a solid read, even after 100 issues.

megabyte01
03-09-2007, 06:37 PM
can somebody please tell me the answers to the questions in the back of the book that jason white asked?

what was the question?

kudlaty_true
03-10-2007, 01:15 AM
Do you see it people? Now this is what is wrong with some of you. In, like, every issue there is new ultimisation, and you whine about it. It's like constant: "Bendis don't know what to write, so he ultimise another character". But when Bendis writes the issue good AND we got a new old character, you all go like 'yey! he/she's here', even when you know nothing about him/her. A pitty.
All in all, the issue was great. I love every interaction with UFF and Johnny's double date, find me a girl thing:)
I love that Peter is still treated like he is 15. (And MJ's hilarious scene with wrecking crew member). I love he is drawn like that, too. Just look at Matt and Peter standing together, you see that Matt is like 2 heads bigger.
Justin Ponsor's colours are somehow better... and its a shame that I'm counting issues already when Bagley leaves. This book will not going to be the same without him. Anyway, after the whole serious issues I'd like to slow tone a bit, "more to ground" villains and less clones.

Frizey
03-10-2007, 04:27 AM
This issue ROCKED!! The post Clone Saga USM is rocking! Finally, we have a supporting cast again! Girl troubles! The Daily Bugle! School! A plotline that people care about! All these things were pretty much missing from "Silver Sable" to "Morbius", now USM is finally back the way it should be!!

Ultimate Daredevil is a total badass people! Oh yeah! Can't wait for the next issue with Kitty in Peter and MJ's class, that is going to be an intense confrontation. And Bagley's art was as awesome as ever, I'm gunna miss his A+ art lots.

zeroEDGE
03-10-2007, 07:27 AM
Enjoyable issue, it's good to see Pete happy once in awhile haha. Well I'm looking forward to seeing what happens between him and Kitty.

caney
03-10-2007, 08:07 AM
The last two issues have been my favorite Ultimate Spider-Man issues in a while. The fallout from the clone saga has made this book fresh again.

It's funny, but I usually enjoy the Peter Parker centric issues more than the Spider-Man centric ones. I love watching goofy Peter deal with everyday life.

Omega Alpha
03-10-2007, 08:54 AM
The last two issues have been my favorite Ultimate Spider-Man issues in a while. The fallout from the clone saga has made this book fresh again.

It's funny, but I usually enjoy the Peter Parker centric issues more than the Spider-Man centric ones. I love watching goofy Peter deal with everyday life.

Dude, everyone preferes the Peter Parker centric issues. Bendis is the one that seems to not notice it.

Toboe
03-10-2007, 09:54 AM
Excellent issue. Finally thw books gets interesting again, great interactions with the Fantastic Four, Aun May and Mary Jane, Jameson and the Bugle staff and Daredevil of course. Finally the return of the Kingpin, a villian I actually care about, can't wait to see what's in store for this arc.
It was nice to see Peter happy for a while, it was about time. Although now he is in an extremely incomfortable relationship with Kitty Pryde, attending to his high school and now his ex (even though she doesn't know it).

However, I couldn't care less for Shang Chi, I wish he wasn't part of Daredevil's team, he's just too meh.
And can't Bendis stop himself from "ultimizing" characters? I have no clue as who Jessica Jones is in 616, and I must say I'm not even interested, ultimate or 616.
Still, quite an enjoyable issue after a while of desception with this book.

Xanrn
03-10-2007, 12:27 PM
He had to gave to the damm Spidey and MJ crap though didn't he...

They better kill MJ off or something soon.

Freaking turning into What If Peter Parker was born in 1991, not Ultimate Spiderman.

Kitty Prdye, Jessica Drew, whatever I mean come on we don't need to the same old MJ as a clingy red head from 616.

ultimatespyder20
03-10-2007, 12:36 PM
I really don't mind Peter with MJ. Mj is a down to Earth girl, and thats what makes Peter seem more like a regular guy. I'd rather see him with someone normal, than with someone else who has super-powers.

Alec

Omega Alpha
03-10-2007, 04:32 PM
Peter and Kitty being into a relationship was very cool, something completely different and took the book into a new direction; Pete and Mary Jane is just the same old story.

Sean Whitmore
03-10-2007, 04:41 PM
And I love how crazy ultimate DD is, telling he's gonna kill the Kingpin to a kid in public. :D

I tend to think Daredevil was speaking metaphorically. "Killing the Kingpin" by destroying Fisk's empire. But who knows, maybe Ultimate Matt will go the way of the Punisher.



Freaking turning into What If Peter Parker was born in 1991, not Ultimate Spiderman.

If there's ever been a difference between the two, you'll have to point it out to me.



Peter and Kitty being into a relationship was very cool, something completely different and took the book into a new direction; Pete and Mary Jane is just the same old story.

Except not quite the same, as Kitty is still around.


SEAN

megabyte01
03-10-2007, 07:51 PM
If Peter's relationship with her is really supposed to be over, why would Bendis bring her back for another arc (other than for the comedic potential)? I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out. Somehow, Kitty's continued presence doesn't bode well for MJ's future.



I tend to think Daredevil was speaking metaphorically. "Killing the Kingpin" by destroying Fisk's empire. But who knows, maybe Ultimate Matt will go the way of the Punisher.


I hope you're right, because it would just be a complete turnaround in Daredevil's M.O. if he really intended to murder the kingpin. If he did, I wonder if Spider-Man would try and talk him out of it?

myslead
03-11-2007, 07:53 AM
is Shang Chi the ultimate Iron fist?

Jack
03-11-2007, 10:31 AM
is Shang Chi the ultimate Iron fist?
No, he's the ultimate Shang Chi. Iron Fist showed up in the Warriors arc, and I believe he was still Danny Rand.

myslead
03-11-2007, 10:49 AM
ah yeah, I remember now. It's just that the big fist on his costume made me think of an Iron Fist lol.

Spiderboy-Prime
03-11-2007, 02:48 PM
good issue, i knew bendis wouldnt let kitty go down without a fight, bendis is at his best when it comes to daredevil and organized crime arcs so im all psyched for this arc, And was that picture of Spidey fightin Hulk from the old Marvel Team-up issue?

Joe Acro
03-11-2007, 07:44 PM
He is an amateur. He's a great fighter, not an actor or a spy. He came up with a plan to get him to the Kingpin (which worked), he just failed to pull it off convincingly.And yet, despite what he did the last time we saw him, he was kicked to the curb pretty easily. Maybe Kingpin's guards are better than I give them credit for.

Anyone know what Shang-Chi hoped to accomplish? He clearly wasn't going to kill him.

saral
03-12-2007, 04:46 AM
If Peter's relationship with her is really supposed to be over, why would Bendis bring her back for another arc (other than for the comedic potential)? I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out. Somehow, Kitty's continued presence doesn't bode well for MJ's future.


Think about what's happened so far. MJ tried to enter Spider-man's world somewhat unsuccessfully. Now Kitty in many way's lives in that world, and tried to bring Peter Parker (Note Peter not Spider-man) into it.

So realising that's the major problem (other than MJ) Kitty is now trying to re-enter Peter's world which she misses, but do you think Kitty will be any more successful than MJ about entering a world she's not a part of?

Shadow ES
03-15-2007, 11:00 AM
Anyone know what Shang-Chi hoped to accomplish? He clearly wasn't going to kill him.

my guess is just to spy. And I figured he was taken down so easily because he was completely unprepared to be caught so quick.

myslead
03-15-2007, 12:52 PM
if he's a spy, he needs a new costume right now lol.

a big and bulky red metallic suit isn't what I call very ... stealthy.

ultimatespyder20
03-15-2007, 03:00 PM
if he's a spy, he needs a new costume right now lol.

a big and bulky red metallic suit isn't what I call very ... stealthy.

Did this suit remind anyone else of maybe an Iron Spider suit? That was one of the first things I thought when I saw it. I thought Bendis was ultimatmizing the Iron Spider, but not as Peter Parker, lol.

Alec

myslead
03-15-2007, 03:32 PM
I thought of Iron Fist because of the huge iron-ish/yellow colored fist on the chest.

but like written above, Iron Fist is already in the Ultimate Universe.

Sebastos
03-16-2007, 06:58 PM
I thought of Iron Fist because of the huge iron-ish/yellow colored fist on the chest.

but like written above, Iron Fist is already in the Ultimate Universe.

And isn't Ultimate Iron Fist going to show up in the Ultimate Knights arc?

MaxofSteel
03-16-2007, 07:37 PM
Did this suit remind anyone else of maybe an Iron Spider suit? That was one of the first things I thought when I saw it. I thought Bendis was ultimatmizing the Iron Spider, but not as Peter Parker, lol.

Alec

Speaking of which, that whole deal with the Kingpin at the beginning of the issue leads me to believe that Pete will be forced to change his image as a result of all the legal disputes that may/may not arise.

Either that, or Daredevil will step in to help Pete get his Spidey name back somehow.

Sparda
03-16-2007, 07:59 PM
Speaking of which, that whole deal with the Kingpin at the beginning of the issue leads me to believe that Pete will be forced to change his image as a result of all the legal disputes that may/may not arise.

Either that, or Daredevil will step in to help Pete get his Spidey name back somehow.
You know speaking of which, it would be cool if spidey for a couple of issues would wear the Scarlet Spider out-fit but more modern. But sadly it's not going to come true :( But this really is a good time to set up spidey to wear a cool looking costume though.

ultimatespyder20
03-18-2007, 11:02 AM
And isn't Ultimate Iron Fist going to show up in the Ultimate Knights arc?

Yeah, he will be. I'm looking forward to it, and Ult. Moon Knight's appearance.

Alec

ultimatespyder20
03-18-2007, 11:03 AM
Speaking of which, that whole deal with the Kingpin at the beginning of the issue leads me to believe that Pete will be forced to change his image as a result of all the legal disputes that may/may not arise.

Either that, or Daredevil will step in to help Pete get his Spidey name back somehow.

This would be cool to see, and an interesting story. I'd like to see Pete in an Ult. Iron Spider suit, but just for a few issues. Nothing permanent.

Alec

wingsofdamnation
03-20-2007, 09:47 AM
anyone else annoyed how bendis had spidey fighting the hulk in the issue? for me its annoying because bendis keeps having these off panel fights with people and then suddenly its hey check it out spidey somewhere somehow fought the hulk. last time he did it was in the carnage arc where spidey has a flash back of fighting the lizard and although its never happened in previous issues it left out the possibility of doing a lizard arc where we can see conners driven mad by his amputation and going to the extremes of injecting lizard dna to re-grow it. sure they can do it in an arc that takes place entirely in a flash back but that would be lame IMO

that said, i am finally releived to see that my waiting paid off. ever since the carnage arc ult. spidey has been a total let down for me. i used to love it up till hollywood then it became more of a chore to read it. the only reason i kept pulling it from the shelf was because i had a feeling it would come back its original greatness. and 106 really pulled through for me and i cant wait to read the rest of the arc

Shadow ES
03-20-2007, 09:54 AM
Peter fought Hulk and the Lizard in issues of Ultimate Team Up.

MutoMikey
03-20-2007, 09:58 AM
Great Issue!

I thought that a little before the Clone Saga, the series was a little lacking and started to drag. But since issue 1 of CS, I feel like it's gotten another kick to it. I just glad Peter isn't Mr. Whine-whine-emo-girl trouble-whiner that he was for a while.

Also liked the fact that Pete didn't know Daredevil was blind. Funny.

Still lookin for Ult.Spider-Woman to return though...

Crimson
03-22-2007, 12:43 PM
This was a step in the right direction! I was so close to dropping this book but this issue pulled it back... Bendis does the quieter, more character driven stuff then the all out action stuff.

Kitty being at the school will be interesting

wingsofdamnation
03-22-2007, 08:44 PM
anyone else surprized kitty was jewish? it never occured to me that religion actually existed in comics. either way i never saw or read anything in UXM that announced her religion. does this mean that bendis just decided to make her jewish or did i miss something. or maybe that wasnt a star of david around her neck...i

Sean Whitmore
03-22-2007, 08:49 PM
anyone else surprized kitty was jewish?

Not especially. Her Judaism has been a fairly well-known and explored part of her 616 counterpart. :)


SEAN

MaxofSteel
03-22-2007, 08:52 PM
anyone else surprized kitty was jewish? it never occured to me that religion actually existed in comics. either way i never saw or read anything in UXM that announced her religion. does this mean that bendis just decided to make her jewish or did i miss something. or maybe that wasnt a star of david around her neck...i

The fact that Peter said himself that he's not Jewish, and that Kitty indeed seems to be, might somehow factor into the story later...

I dunno. Just taking a wild guess.

Sebastos
03-23-2007, 06:50 PM
Yeah, he will be. I'm looking forward to it, and Ult. Moon Knight's appearance.

Alec

Same here! I can't wait for more Ultimate Iron Fist.

wingsofdamnation
03-23-2007, 09:47 PM
Not especially. Her Judaism has been a fairly well-known and explored part of her 616 counterpart. :)


SEAN
o never knew that. i just thought bendis threw it out there for the hell of it.