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Tater
03-05-2007, 05:24 PM
Maybe he gets the Stark Armor? I think both have been rumored to be returning in Senstional Spider-man. How he would get it is the real question though. Maybe just found it, or perhaps Peter gave it to him. If Brock was wearing it and Tony was tracking it, he would lose Peter's trail. Anyways, what would you think of Brock using the armor, of course he would probally use it to look like Venom, not spider-man.

The Shelf
03-05-2007, 09:07 PM
Isn't the Iron Spidey suit pretty much destroyed from Peter's escape? It's not just a simple piece of fabric that Peter could restitch. I doubt he even has it anymore since Tony was able to track it. Unless Tony makes another one, I don't see how Brock could get his hands on it. Besides, Brock hates Venom so much now that I doubt he'd ever make the suit look like him (at least I assume he hates Venom since he slit his own wrists when Venom killed that one dude; I haven't actually read that part myself). I'd like to see Brock get Carnage since Cletus is probably dead, though, I'm not sure how the writers could reconcile Brock's frame of mind with wanting to wear another symbiote.

Web_Spinner
03-05-2007, 09:11 PM
I wonder if he'll have anything to do with back in black. I think it would be an awsome switch if Back in Black was about Brock back in venom, and Peter's costume is just coincedence!!

The Shelf
03-05-2007, 09:21 PM
That would be a pretty cool twist, but I kinda like the new Scorpenom. Plus, it gives them a great opportunity to reinvent Carnage, both his personality and his appearance, if Brock gets him.

Cody H
03-05-2007, 09:29 PM
I'd like to see Brock get Carnage since Cletus is probably dead, though, I'm not sure how the writers could reconcile Brock's frame of mind with wanting to wear another symbiote.That and he'd have to go into space to find the remnants of the symbiote as Sentry ripped in half in deep space way by in New Avengers #2 or #3.

The Shelf
03-05-2007, 09:59 PM
Oh, I know, Cody, but this is comic land. They could always say that the Carnage remnants latched on to a falling meteor shower and hid inside or something. Or that some scientists noticed some substance floating through space and brought the fragments in to study them. I'm guessing (since I haven't actually read those issues) Sentry didn't launch the Carnage remnants in opposite directions, so it would be pretty easy for them to explain it if Carnage just randomly shows up on earth somewhere.

Xanrn
03-06-2007, 07:35 AM
Why the hell use some goddam awful rubbish like that.

Toxin gives birth to a new Symbiote and it bonds with Brock or heck Toxin bonds with Brock.

Although Brock coming back doesn't have to mean he gets a symbiote.

Heck I want Spiderman to get a goddam Symbiote.

rZi
03-06-2007, 08:55 AM
To see eddie in a Iron-spider type suit would be a cool change i think...like most of you point out he hates Venom now, and to give him Cletuses symbiote wouldn't fit well at all i think...hey maybe stark could strike a deal, something like... "Ok so i'll give you an elite suit but you gotta help me catch some super-crims k?"

Xanrn
03-06-2007, 11:10 AM
But see it can't be the Iron Spider suit, because thats not that Super.

Brock is a strong human, but his powers came solely from Symbiote who had copied Spiderman's powers.

Naked Brock doesn't have any powers.

Shyft
03-06-2007, 11:18 AM
The Iron Spider suit is turning up somewhere in the Initiative, apparantly.

Eddie Brock has to be Venom or no-one at all, as far as im concerned. Gargan in the Venom suit is stupid, and Brock in Carnage would be stupid.

bjtrdff
03-06-2007, 11:20 AM
Besides that, the symbiote only copied spidey's original powers.

He's substantially stronger and faster than before, and has other powers. The Venom/Spidey strength disparity wasn't much before, now it's flipped over to Spidey's side.

SO unless Brock gets some sort of strength augmentation in that suit, I don't know what the point would be.

Venom
03-06-2007, 11:38 AM
Quesada clearly said at the New York Comicon that Brock will be back AS Venom.

Web_Spinner
03-06-2007, 12:33 PM
Awesome!

I'm gonna guess that the Iron Spidey suit that shows up in the Initiative (if it does at all) will be worn by one of Iron Man's new heroes. Maybe even call him/it(?) the Iron Spider. Kinda like Clor.

Spidey will be super pissed, he's sensitive about copyright infringement and cloning/dopplegangers, lol!!!!!!!!!!

Cody H
03-06-2007, 12:51 PM
Oh, I know, Cody, but this is comic land. They could always say that the Carnage remnants latched on to a falling meteor shower and hid inside or something. Or that some scientists noticed some substance floating through space and brought the fragments in to study them. I'm guessing (since I haven't actually read those issues) Sentry didn't launch the Carnage remnants in opposite directions, so it would be pretty easy for them to explain it if Carnage just randomly shows up on earth somewhere.That's true. Far less plausible things have happened, especially when it comes to the Carnage symbiote.

Nosgoth Phantom
03-06-2007, 03:14 PM
Why not just give the Iron Spidey costume to Oliver Osnick? Also known as the Steel Spider.

Mister Mets
03-06-2007, 04:19 PM
I think it makes more sense to give him the Carnage symbiote.
Brock's more interesting than Kassidy, and it allows Mac Gargan to remain Venom.

MAK15
03-06-2007, 04:26 PM
Why not just give the Iron Spidey costume to Oliver Osnick? Also known as the Steel Spider.

'cuz the steel spider outfit looks cooler than the Iron-spidey outfit?

Nosgoth Phantom
03-06-2007, 04:46 PM
'cuz the steel spider outfit looks cooler than the Iron-spidey outfit?

In my opinion the Steel Spider looks like a dick. :)

Venom
03-07-2007, 08:24 AM
I think it makes more sense to give him the Carnage symbiote.
Brock's more interesting than Kassidy, and it allows Mac Gargan to remain Venom.

How about Eddie becomes Venom again like he will be and Gargan gets the Carnage Symbiote. He can start becoming the villain that just steals other super-villain's costumes.

Lanowar
03-07-2007, 08:28 AM
in Mighty Avengers Bendis said the 2nd story arc features symbiotes it might be related to that, I think the Symbiote likes Gargan at the moment and I'm inclined to agree I like the gargan venom.

"It's not mind control... It's MY Control"

MAK15
03-07-2007, 08:30 AM
in Mighty Avengers Bendis said the 2nd story arc features symbiotes it might be related to that, I think the Symbiote likes Gargan at the moment and I'm inclined to agree I like the gargan venom.

"It's not mind control... It's MY Control"

I wonder what the Mighty 'vengers will look like in Symbiote suits?

rZi
03-07-2007, 09:26 AM
I can't ever see Cletus staying dead....he'll come back in some form, thats just what happens in comics. going back to a point i made before i would love to see eddie in iron-spider style suit that boosted his strength and what not, and gave him spider-like powers! Him returning to the venom symbiote now just seems...i don't know, out of place? I mean he did try to top himself after all...

666andahalf
03-07-2007, 12:52 PM
I can't ever see Cletus staying dead....he'll come back in some form, thats just what happens in comics.

I hope so... I've always thought that killing him off was a waste. If villains die, then they should either die in their first story (preferably one that fleshes out the character entirely) or in a epic story like Kraven's Last Hunt.

I'm sure there was other interesting things to explore with Carnage that a good writer could have come up with...

wingsofdamnation
03-13-2007, 11:58 PM
i like the idea of brock getting the carnage symbiote. it would be a really cool struggle of brock trying to tame the suit after having cleatus in the suit for so long.

Testament_X
03-15-2007, 09:32 PM
I say Brock becomes the new Tarantula....

Or he just fights in his birthday suit, which he fought in way to many comics. The site of a nude Brock makes the venom suit explode.

drwho
03-16-2007, 07:53 AM
One symbiote is all there should be at MArvel. It became very tired out. Also I'm not interested in seeing any more characters along the line of toxin.They should have all the remaining ones just merge, or get eaten by Venom. Didnt they also the costume rejected Eddie because he was sick and wasnt putting out the right hormones? Is Marvel gonna find the cure for cancer?

rZi
03-16-2007, 09:32 AM
Instead of their mutual hatred of Spider-Man, Brock's increased adrenaline production, on which the symbiote feeds, is the primary reason for their bonding. The bonding also saved Brock from his cancer.

Venom
03-16-2007, 09:00 PM
Just found out some latest news. Eddie Brock's return as Venom will begin in "Sensational Spider-Man #38" in June. He'll also be starring in an upcoming Spider-Man/Red Sonja crossover. And from the looks of things his appearance is back to his good ol' self. Although I'm really starting to get annoyed at how artists are just lazy by not adding the web patches on his hands. How the hell is he supposed to use his webs?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=cons/wizworldla2007/marvel/mondo/SPIDEY-RED-SONJA.jpg

Titanium
03-16-2007, 10:01 PM
Eddie Brock: Agent of SHIELD.

Brock wakes up from his cancer/suicide attempt-induced coma, and is examined by SHIELD, this was afterall a former supervillain, they have to see if he needs to register or not. Brock is then taken aside by Tony Stark who makes him an offer he can't refuse and Brock shows up in the middle of Spidey saving the day to kick his ass, in the Iron Spidey suit that not only duplicates all of the powers of Spider-Man it scanned and recorded or at least through the old suit Tony scanned and recorded and studied, but amplifies them just like Venom. Eddie Brock sent to bring in Spider-Man because he's probably the only person who could. He could also get that fancy Scorpion suit Norman Osborn built.

That's my take on what happens.

Or Eddie Brock wakes up and becomes a supporting character to Peter Parker. Brock doesn't hate Pete as much as he did, in fact he will fight by his side if given the chance it's the Venom Symbiote that always made them fight.


He won't become Venom full time. There are some flashback specials in store for him, mainly to tie into the movie of course, like the Red Sonja crossover, I mean that's definately not in continuity anyway.

Honestly, I don't want Brock back as Venom. I like Mac Gargan Venom. Eddie Brock had evolved into a hero character, or at least an anti-hero. Gargan is a villain to the core and his Venom is crazy. I'd like to see Gargan Venom vs Spider-Man more and in depth. There's such an opportunity to have a special arc of any of the Spidey books to have Norman send Venom out by himself to track down Spider-Man and bring him in. Grudge Match opportunity.

Also I'm awaiting the return of Carnage. I suspect that's what the symbiote reference is to for the Avengers book. Carange pulled himself back together, extra crazy now, and is out to kill the Sentry.