Who's the new archvillain (SPOILERS)? [Archive]

Nightstar1441

02-28-2007, 01:48 PM

Cestrian

02-28-2007, 01:59 PM

Okay lets have a look at the suspects.

I don't think it will be Annihilus, Ravenous, Blastaar or T and A. Annihilation already did that after all.

Also I don't think it will be Tyrant for the same reasons why I don't think it will be Thanos or Mephisto or one of the elders of the universe. None of them are the kind of people that need an army.

The Badoon and the Brood are out because they don't have a single villain to lead them. Depending on how Brubaker's Uncanny turns out it could be D'ken and the Shiar I guess. Somebody who has read Starknights could tell you if the Dire wraiths have a leader villain.

Kang has been thrown around a bit because of the name but I can't see it myself. Busiek already told that story six years ago.

I wouldn't mind seeing it being Ronan and the Kree but it's unlikely after his development in Annihilation. The Skrulls are out of the picture. Maximus and the Inhumans are already being used in Silent war. How about Loki and the Asgardians?

agrich

02-28-2007, 02:18 PM

How about the former boss of the villain from the Ronan miniseries? That's right, I'm talking about the guy who created Glorian and who I always thought was kind of cool looking from way back when in the Incredible Hulk...

The Shaper of Worlds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaper_of_Worlds

Failing that, I think it should be Pip the Troll, who embarks on a mad scheme to steal all the universe's beer and possess it for himself.

Cthulhudrew

02-28-2007, 04:10 PM

Also I don't think it will be Tyrant for the same reasons why I don't think it will be Thanos or Mephisto or one of the elders of the universe. None of them are the kind of people that need an army.

Tyrant has always used an army, though- an army of robots. While his personal power level is such that he wouldn't need an army to overpower others, he's always preferred to use minions to do his dirty work, and certainly to enforce his edicts.

Tyrant was actually the first person (well, after Kang the Conqueror) that came to mind for me. I don't think it will be him, though.

Expletive Deleted

02-28-2007, 05:35 PM

Some more options . . .

Syphonn, with his Conqueror's Wheel.

Blastaar, for obvious reasons.

The Shi'ar, depending on where Brubaker's storyline is heading. Kree-Shi'ar War II, anyone?

The Dire Wraiths, since the Spaceknights are supposed to be more involved and since the name "Wraith" strikes me as significant.

Or . . . heck, I dunno. It'll depend on if "Conquest" has the same implications as "Annihilation."

Dark Soul # 7

02-28-2007, 05:38 PM

I have no idea, though I would like to see either Tyrant or Walker the death god in the role.

And Kang doesn't fit as a cosmic villain IMO.

agrich

02-28-2007, 05:41 PM

I won't pretend to be up on the most recent appearances of Tyrant, but my perception of him when he first appeared in Silver Surfer was that he was little more than a cheap, slightly more ruthless (and less interesting) ripoff of Terrax.

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02-28-2007, 05:46 PM

And Kang doesn't fit as a cosmic villain IMO.

I dunno. He basically had an alien army and space fleet in "Kang Dynasty." The whole "Crosstime Council" (or whatever it was called) was pretty cosmic.

Really, it depends on how they approach it. I mean, think of how we viewed Annihilus before ANNIHILATION started.

I won't pretend to be up on the most recent appearances of Tyrant, but my perception of him when he first appeared in Silver Surfer was that he was little more than a cheap, slightly more ruthless (and less interesting) ripoff of Terrax.Ditto.

Honestly, he always struck me as very typically '90s.

mdg1

02-28-2007, 05:47 PM

I'm going to go with Kang, simply because this is the sort of challenge he'd go for. A destabilized galaxy, ripe for plucking.

Of course, if I _really_ wanted to be obscure... what about a villain from the Microverse?

shanejayell

02-28-2007, 06:17 PM

I picked "Other" because I think it'll either be something new, or something so obscure that it'll look new. Heh.

Butch Mapa

02-28-2007, 09:25 PM

I call Terrax, just for the hell of it.

Expletive Deleted

02-28-2007, 09:58 PM

From the Wizard interview (here (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/003698124.cfm?page=1)) . . .

My miniseries is about what happens when you wage a war against beings that control all technology and in order to get the mission done, you can’t use any technology, you need to get down and dirty.

Now, that might be a bunch of hench-aliens or some other non-main-villain characters, but it's potentially interesting.

Oh, and Quasar II will be fighting the Super Adaptoid.

mdg1

03-01-2007, 06:23 AM

"beings that control all technology"

Could they be using the Technarchy (aka the Phalanx)?

Cthulhudrew

03-01-2007, 09:49 AM

I think it's going to be Proboscis.

Will.S

03-01-2007, 10:23 AM

I think it's either Blastaar or some similar out of left field but totally obvious foe like Annihilus.

I wouldn't mind seeing some more Ravenous villainy but it seems that Conquest will have a bit more ties to Marvel earth.

mdg1

03-01-2007, 10:46 AM

I'm changing my vote.

Consider the following details:

The character "controls technology"
At least two characters on Star-Lord's team are tied to the Microverse.
Wraith is being hunted by both sides because he can control fear.

Could it be? (http://marvel.com/universe/Psycho-Man)

Cthulhudrew

03-01-2007, 10:50 AM

Could it be? (http://marvel.com/universe/Psycho-Man)

That's actually an interesting guess. Maybe they really meant to name this series Annihilation: Psychosis?

MakeshiftHero

03-01-2007, 11:38 AM

It's going to be the Impossible Man! And he'll come back with his wife and kids (a giant swarm of kids) and they'll take over the galaxy! Muah hahhahahaaaa

Scott Evil

03-01-2007, 11:54 AM

I'm voting for Shang Tsung and Shao Khan.

It is called Konquest, right? And this could be Marvel's way of revitalizing the dying MK franchise! What? Oh.. its Conquest. With a "C", riiiiiight. Never mind. Ignore me =)

Nova3333

03-01-2007, 12:23 PM

"beings that control all technology"

Could they be using the Technarchy (aka the Phalanx)?

I like this option. The Techarchy are good candidates and it would be interesting to see the forces of good having to wage a war against a race who can adapt and control all forms of technology and also via use of the trans-mode virus can add individuals into their "collective". Now here's athough. wonder what would happen if the Worldmind in Rich's mind was corrupted by a virus. How would he cope? Hmmm interesting plot idea. May do a fan fic on it!

Expletive Deleted

03-01-2007, 12:50 PM

Could it be? (http://marvel.com/universe/Psycho-Man)I dunno if he'd really be a good main villain, but I can certainly see him tying into Wraith.

Butch Mapa

03-01-2007, 04:47 PM

Psycho Man... innnnteresting.

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03-01-2007, 05:31 PM

BeastieRunner

03-01-2007, 08:19 PM

I realize this is probably the least likely idea yet, but . . . In MARVEL ADVENTURES: AVENGERS, M.O.D.O.K. was renamed M.O.D.O.C., with Conquest replacing Killing.

Eh? Eh?

. . . yeah, I know. It'd be awesome, though.

I've actually been thinking it could be M.O.D.O.K. but some other guesses I have are: Ultron, the Majesdanians, Ronan and the new Kree, the Brood, and the Technarchy.

I am almost willing to bet money it will be some form of the Exemplars with . . . Conquest at the head. They're tied to the current Nova as well. :)

MakeshiftHero

03-01-2007, 09:13 PM

Wasn't it already announced that Super Adaptoid is going to be the new main villain? I know I read something about him coming back and I think it was for Conquest.

Expletive Deleted

03-01-2007, 09:24 PM

Super Adaptoid was mentioned as the main villain of the Quasar mini.

Whether or not that translates to the event as a whole . . .

aniscape

03-01-2007, 09:54 PM

I say...Mealstrom :evilsmile

They did mention Quasar was going to be a key figure in conquest...

MakeshiftHero

03-02-2007, 02:53 AM

Super Adaptoid was mentioned as the main villain of the Quasar mini.

Whether or not that translates to the event as a whole . . .

ahh thanks, must have not payed attention.

I dunno who the main villain will be but I'm more than sure that the "baby" Annihilus will be seen grown up in the next book. But what IF he's still the main bad guy and gives it all a second shot cause he has the memories of the dead one and knows what went wrong and what to do better. I know it would be kind of lame to reuse the same guy but seeing that it's pretty much the same Ann. I don't think he'd just sit back and watch someone else take over after he did all the work and blew up countless planets and still has a good sized army.

mdg1

03-02-2007, 04:56 AM

Super Adaptoid was mentioned as the main villain of the Quasar mini.

Whether or not that translates to the event as a whole . . .

I doubt it... he doesn't really have the ambition. But the fact that the Big Bad uses technological minions (as opposed to the Wave's organics) may be relevant.

PatchMadripoor

03-02-2007, 07:52 AM

My guess?

Tenebrous, Aegis and the other prisoners of the Kyln.

And who ever it was that crashed the prisoner ship that Drax, Paibok and the othe prisoners from the mini.

Maybe Drax himself goes rogue, too.

Sean Walsh

03-02-2007, 08:04 AM

Skeletron.

I can hear the cars crashing to and fro already.... :p

agrich

03-02-2007, 08:08 AM

Baron Karza!

Expletive Deleted

03-02-2007, 08:25 AM

Skeletron."Starblast" never happened, do you hear me?

Never, never, never, ever.

Baron Karza!How awesome would it be if we opened up the PROLOGUE issue and it featured all of Marvel's lost licensed characters?

mdg1

03-02-2007, 09:00 AM

Baron Karza!

I wish... he fits the role even better than Psycho-Man. But I don't think the lawyers will allow it. And Baron Zebek was a poor substitute.

Mysterio's Helmet

03-02-2007, 09:30 AM

"Starblast" never happened, do you hear me?

Never, never, never, ever.

How awesome would it be if we opened up the PROLOGUE issue and it featured all of Marvel's lost licensed characters?

NA NA NA NA! *holds fingers in ears*

You can't make me listen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lord that was the worst. If they try to bring back him, then I will not be buying it on principle.

As for who I think it is, I like the Magnus and the Technarchy. That actually would be a great little idea.

MAK15

03-02-2007, 12:55 PM

Baron Karza!

with the appearance of Bug and the speculation of Mr. Wraith coming from the microverse? not that bad of a guess.

Just a thought: maybe the brood try to take over since the annihilation weakened a lot of key alien empires?

Andy Schmidt

03-02-2007, 09:16 PM

Doom68

03-02-2007, 10:01 PM

anyone else notice the face to the left of the new quasar on her cover in the wizard interview??

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/003698124.cfm?page=1

it shows all the players apparently: ronan, nova, starlord, wraith, moon dragon, and to the far left...bigger than anyone...mephisto.

north of mephisto is someone also, i dont quite recognize him...almost resembles Erick the Red, the guy from the dark pheonix saga. wasnt he D'Ken's righthand guy? or one of them? and with dken apparently taking power in xmen...

tag team?

sounds interesting to me. he may or may not be erik the red, probly isnt. but. mephisto is unmistakable.

mdg1

03-03-2007, 08:01 AM

I'm not entirely sure who you are talking about. On the Prologue cover, we have Phylla in the middle, and (starting from the upper left and going clockwise)

Ronan, Starlord, Nova, Wraith, Moondragon, and a mystery figure who may be Blastaar or Drax.

Jack

03-03-2007, 09:04 AM

Isn't the big one just Super Skrull? He's got a pointy ear and looks to have a skrull chin.

PatchMadripoor

03-03-2007, 09:08 AM

Is fecit, cui prodest. , Latin, "done by the one who profits".

So we have half the kree empire taken over, the skrulls facing extinction and a major force of villians from the Negative Zone now in known space. Thanos the Mad Titan is dead (all hail Thanos!) Annihilus is in larvae mode.

Who profits from setting this up (besides Marvel)?. I'm guessing a Quasar villian, and someone older and who may benefit from fanatics on both sides of the upcoming conflict. The Magus.

MAK15

03-03-2007, 09:31 AM

Isn't the big one just Super Skrull? He's got a pointy ear and looks to have a skrull chin.

yeah, thats the super skrull.

mayhap the dire wraiths return? I've been reading up on the cosmic marvel scene and these guys appear pretty nasty to me

I'm not entirely sure who you are talking about. On the Prologue cover, we have Phylla in the middle, and (starting from the upper left and going clockwise)

Ronan, Starlord, Nova, Wraith, Moondragon, and a mystery figure who may be Blastaar or Drax.

I think that mystery figure is the super adaptoid, since the interview said that's who the main villain of this mini series is.

Cthulhudrew

03-03-2007, 07:58 PM

Isn't the big one just Super Skrull? He's got a pointy ear and looks to have a skrull chin.

I think you're right. That bigger cover gives a much clearer view. Not sure that big one is Mephisto, though. Seems like he'd be pretty out of place in Annihilation.

Cthulhudrew

03-03-2007, 08:00 PM

I think that mystery figure is the super adaptoid, since the interview said that's who the main villain of this mini series is.

That's the cover to Annihilation: Conquest, though, isn't it? Not the Quasar series?

MAK15

03-03-2007, 09:00 PM

That's the cover to Annihilation: Conquest, though, isn't it? Not the Quasar series?

Who is Quasar up against?

GAGE: The main villain of the miniseries is the Super-Adaptoid, who not only has all the combined powers of the Avengers, but also at one point absorbed the powers of [Quasar’s] father. That’s a threat that can really pose a challenge to her.
taken from the wizard interview.
the super-adaptoid will clash with the second quasar

NovaScifii

03-04-2007, 05:30 AM

I loved watching you guys guess who the villain in the first one was going to be. It's really interesting. You've got a lot of fun ideas and you make really cool connections between things. It's facinating.

Man I love this.

But, man, you guys are going to go nuts. I'll be watching these boards carefully as the story unfolds.

You guys are in for a really great ride. I may know all the major story beats and been a part of the planning, but this time I do get to read the specifics with you.

This is going to be killer!

Andy

*Reaches out through space and time to place fingertips on the face of Andy Schmidt in the manner of the Vulcan mind meld*

Our minds are one .... your thoughts are my thoughts ... my thoughts are yours .... All that you know of this new Annihil ...... ugh ... no ... it can't be ..... NNNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!

*passes out from the psychic backlash* :eek:

mdg1

03-04-2007, 08:25 AM

OK, now I'm confused. If the guy SW of Phyla on the Prologue cover is Super-Skrull, who's this "big guy" you are talking about?

Titan76

03-04-2007, 10:17 AM

Whoever it is it better not be Thanos. Let him stay dead for a few years.

Nova3333

03-04-2007, 11:03 AM

*Reaches out through space and time to place fingertips on the face of Andy Schmidt in the manner of the Vulcan mind meld*

Our minds are one .... your thoughts are my thoughts ... my thoughts are yours .... All that you know of this new Annihil ...... ugh ... no ... it can't be ..... NNNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!

*passes out from the psychic backlash* :eek:

That's a good attempt NovaScifi but surely you should have used your technique on the Rose(Man).

Cthulhudrew

03-04-2007, 08:15 PM

Who is Quasar up against?

GAGE: The main villain of the miniseries is the Super-Adaptoid, who not only has all the combined powers of the Avengers, but also at one point absorbed the powers of [Quasar’s] father. That’s a threat that can really pose a challenge to her.
taken from the wizard interview.
the super-adaptoid will clash with the second quasar

I think you misunderstood my question. You suggested that the character in the corner is the Super-Adaptoid, because that's the main villain in the Quasar series. The cover, on the other hand, is not to the Quasar series, but to the Annihilation: Conquest prologue.

Thus, while the SA may be the villain in Phyla's book, it doesn't mean that it is the thing/person on the cover pictured.

Expletive Deleted

03-04-2007, 09:04 PM

If no one minds, I restarted the poll with more options.

MAK15

03-04-2007, 09:06 PM

If no one minds, I restarted the poll with more options.

nah, thats all right

BeastieRunner

03-04-2007, 09:38 PM

I still say Conquest from the Exemplars since Annihilation was Annihilus.

*grasps at straws*

Expletive Deleted

03-04-2007, 09:46 PM

Consider that straw solidly grasped.

I mean, hey, she did beat Nova that one time.

shanejayell

03-04-2007, 10:17 PM

*votes The Phalanx/Technarchy*

MAK15

03-04-2007, 10:21 PM

Im thinkin the Dire Wraiths or the Brood.
who knows? maybe its someone we'd never expect.
maybe it's a crazy Rom, space knight, leading the space knights in a bid to bring militant order to the chaotic cosmos?

BeastieRunner

03-04-2007, 10:24 PM

Terminus would be wacky. Give it a cosmic upgrade!

Will.S

03-04-2007, 11:14 PM

I still say Conquest from the Exemplars since Annihilation was Annihilus.

*grasps at straws*

People mentioned him before but I'm thinking that the "Conquest" part of it would mean Kang "The Conqueror" but I'm not gonna bet on that one.

pesmerga316

03-05-2007, 12:31 AM

What if it's Adam Warlock himself?

BeastieRunner

03-05-2007, 12:52 AM

What if it's Adam Warlock himself?

That might be cool. But I still want Conquest cause she did beat Nova that one time . . .

Jack

03-05-2007, 04:22 AM

I found myself forced to vote for MODOK.

Satyrquaze

03-05-2007, 07:25 AM

I'm thinking T&A.

Nova3333

03-05-2007, 01:23 PM

It's time Tyrant got the spotlight treatment as a cosmic threat

Hi, folks. In order to add a new poll, I had to kill the original thread's original post. Sorry about that. In any case, this is the place where we speculate baselessly about the identity of ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST's villain or villains. Carry on. -ED

Not a problem with me Explective. Makes it even more interesting to speculate as I suspect the Big Villain won't be as obvious as Annihilus (though its still suprising that many didn't figure Annihilus was the big bad of Annihilation considering the play on words!). Nova3333/ Darren.

Nova3333

03-05-2007, 01:28 PM

Not a problem with me Explective. Makes it even more interesting to speculate as I suspect the Big Villain won't be as obvious as Annihilus (though its still suprising that many didn't figure Annihilus was the big bad of Annihilation considering the play on words!). Nova3333/ Darren.

I've voted Tyrant as he's well due a re-appearence. However it could also be Baron Karza from the Microverse (who is a villain I'm not fully familiar with but have heard of); The Dire Wraiths; considering the Spaceknight link..a possibility. Phalanx/Technarchy. Still a possibility. But then again it could be a Earth Villain. Why not another gambit by Doctor Doom! Or better still the White Rabbit!! Kidding. Nova3333/Darren

Iceburgeruk

03-05-2007, 01:39 PM

I've voted Tyrant as he's well due a re-appearence. However it could also be Baron Karza from the Microverse (who is a villain I'm not fully familiar with but have heard of); The Dire Wraiths; considering the Spaceknight link..a possibility. Phalanx/Technarchy. Still a possibility. But then again it could be a Earth Villain. Why not another gambit by Doctor Doom! Or better still the White Rabbit!! Kidding. Nova3333/Darren

Yeah remember that Morgan Le Fay`s arc in the avengers in 1998 was collected in a trade paperback called 'Morgan Conquest'. I know its a long shot but hey it could be ANYONE.

MAK15

03-05-2007, 01:40 PM

I've voted Tyrant as he's well due a re-appearence. However it could also be Baron Karza from the Microverse (who is a villain I'm not fully familiar with but have heard of); The Dire Wraiths; considering the Spaceknight link..a possibility. Phalanx/Technarchy. Still a possibility. But then again it could be a Earth Villain. Why not another gambit by Doctor Doom! Or better still the White Rabbit!! Kidding. Nova3333/Darren

would White Rabbit have a giant Deathstar with a rabbit head?

aniscape

03-05-2007, 02:39 PM

I choose other... I say it's the Kid Reaper... revenge for not being the one to take Wendell's life!! (Image from the great Quantum Zone Website listed in my Sig)

http://www.quantumzone.org/behind_the_scenes/original_art/Quasar22Page27.jpg

Cthulhudrew

03-05-2007, 03:47 PM

Or maybe it's Kull the Conqueror? :)

MAK15

03-05-2007, 03:54 PM

it could be the plodex.

danteipp

03-05-2007, 05:20 PM

Based on Conquest as the subtitle you would have to assume it is Kang. But it will take some work to get Kang up to speed as a threat for Nova and the rest. My other two guesses are Korvac and/or the Elders of the Universe either working seperately or together in a very loose pact. Either of the two would be able to command incredible power and control a vast army. Plus both have crossed paths with Galactus in the past with Korvac stealing from him and the Elders plotting to kill him.

Butch Mapa

03-05-2007, 06:19 PM

Kid Reaper... LOL!

So Andy... who did YOU vote for? ;)

Question27

03-06-2007, 10:46 AM

What if it's Adam Warlock himself?

Well it could be the return of The Magus as well. I've missed the purple afro guy!

Drax The Destroyer

03-06-2007, 05:19 PM

Kang is overdue for some major action.

mlightner69

03-09-2007, 02:03 AM

Well we know one thing in that they want to continue on with the theme in the manner in which Andy presented things meaning War. Gritty, dark, Sci-Fi War. Personally I think that the new big bad has to have depth of character, appeal and power or capability. Super-Adaptoid doesn't fit this bill in my opinion. Annihilus while portrayed earlier as a B-Type Villain conquered an entire freakin' universe and Andy & Crew showed us how and why. After reading that Marvel Bio on Psycho-Man, who also controlled an entire universe at one time in the microverse, I believe that in some way he is the main man er, uh machine uh whatever. Bug's presence lends some credence to this. Now in the past Psycho-Man hasn't displayed complete power over technology so what could lend to this change? The last thing that I read is that Psycho-Man was in stasis on Earth. At one time I know that one of the Shadow Agencies on Earth had a specimen from the Technarchy (ala the Phalanx attacks) in captivity. What if during some of the chaos arisen from Civil War (or some other manner) these two entities came in contact with each other. Psycho-Man was dying and the Technarchy would present an out and maybe a hint at something greater, revenge for both involved. A being in the mold of an evil twisted Warlock (the new mutant when merged with Cypher). I would relish the irony of another dire seed sown from the damage that Civil War has hit the Marvel U with. So my vote is 50/50 Psycho-Man/Technarchy.

mlightner69

03-09-2007, 03:25 AM

In support of the above theory this comment by B.R. somewhat jives:

"Readers can also expect a similar formula for the threats that the heroes of “Conquest” will be battling. “I'd bet on both old and new threats,” Rosemann hinted. “It's double the trouble!”

Polaris27

03-10-2007, 06:50 AM

Celestials anyone? We all know they have crazy technology thanks to Apocalypse, and their creation, the Eternals, have been getting some attention lately. Plus, they must have at least noticed what happened during Annihilation.

Mysterio's Helmet

03-10-2007, 12:00 PM

I've changed my opinion to Kang. Conquest? Conqueror? Yeah....we're keeping the title "simple" here.

But double the trouble????? Who has Kang teamed up with before? OR perhaps it's separate?

Trey

03-10-2007, 02:06 PM

I went other on the poll. I think it may be a new alien race. We'll also see some familiar villains interacting with this new threat, possibly joining them or even fighting against them.

mlightner69

03-11-2007, 03:34 AM

Just a couple of other mentions that I thought that I might throw out there. The first being the High Evolutionary, the second being Korvac.

tricksterpup

03-11-2007, 10:45 AM

The Anti-Existence

03-14-2007, 04:11 AM

Tyrant was a great villain. His origins with Galactus and the very well-developed relationship between them made him more than what he really was - a simply power-hungry cosmic monster. I like power-hungry cosmic monsters with a bit of story and Tyrant had a good one.

I'm gonna be original and say Abraxas.

Ods of this happening are 10 billion to negative 10 billion but hey...I want to see him back.

Cayman

04-04-2007, 09:20 AM

What if it's Adam Warlock himself?

That is my guess as well.

Hatut Zeraze

04-04-2007, 12:32 PM

I voted "other." It said to specify. I am hereby specifyin'.

I say the Circus of Crime armed with the Infinity Gems. Each one, as ridiculous as it may seem, is now Herald of Galactus powerful.

The Human Cannonball can now be shot through the walls of reality.

That's the deal.

Blind pugh

04-05-2007, 09:30 AM

Fiver says it's Magus.

firestarfan

04-08-2007, 10:11 AM

Fiver says it's Magus.

Or Warlock at first - who gradually becomes the Magus over the course of the story.

Deus ex Chris

04-08-2007, 10:56 AM

That is my guess as well.

I'm jumping on this bandwagon.

Christopher Cross Is God

04-26-2007, 11:11 PM

Howard The Duck

jsf

04-29-2007, 02:10 PM

kidpernicious

05-02-2007, 03:16 AM

Alright, since people have already brought up lost licenses, plus the quote about fighting an enemy that controls technology, let me drop some crazy jiveass buggaboo and freak your minds for a bit:

It's the Decepticons. Marvel gets the Transformers license back, to cash in on the merch money following the TF summer blockbuster, which itself concludes with an ominous teaser tipping viewers off about Unicron, who is in fact the main villain of Annihilation: Conquest. That's right, FRIGGIN' UNICRON THE PLANETARY-ROBO-COLOSSUS. And Galactus tries to eat him and gets indigestion. Edit: And all sorts of groundwork gets laid out in the upcoming New Avengers/Transformers crossover (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=102772), I guess, or something or other, maybe...

Or not. If it's someone on the poll, I'd go Technarchy, but I'm really expecting it's someone else none of us has thought of yet.

Cthulhudrew

05-02-2007, 09:23 AM

Maybe the "villain" is Aquarian (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/aquarian.htm). :eek:

Keith_Martineau

05-02-2007, 10:24 AM

I think (or hope) that it's Kang. He's always been a favorite of mine, but someone who never seems to be utilized properly. Busiek's use of him in that last arc of his Avengers run started off well, but really bogged down. It was the closest I've seen anyone come (other than in Avengers Forever) to making Kang seem like a true "Conquerer".

Since he's had so much trouble with earth, why not start elsewhere? Here's hopin' ...

If it ends up being Warlock I'm going to be miffed ... he's pretty much one of my all-time favorite characters, and although I know he becomes the Magus in that alternative time-line, I don't want to see that happen here.

It being Kang is as plausible as anything else, and would be cool.

But I, like you, am a huge Warlock fan---BUT, I get a massive geek-charge out of the idea of him actually becoming Magus.
There are all kinds of issues about that, one being that Magus currently exists in the MU as ghost type thing as seen in the Genis-Vell Captain Marvel series.
But yeah, the idea excites me.

Cthulhudrew

05-02-2007, 01:19 PM

There are all kinds of issues about that, one being that Magus currently exists in the MU as ghost type thing as seen in the Genis-Vell Captain Marvel series.

He's not a ghost anymore, though- when Genis overloaded him with a dose of Cosmic Awareness, he was sent hurtling into the reaches of space, and became corporeal once he finally ran aground.

mlightner69

05-04-2007, 10:33 PM

Dagger

05-05-2007, 09:19 AM

I'd love to see a return of the Dire Wraiths, and a return of the Space Knights.

Captain Mobra

05-05-2007, 12:41 PM

XPac

05-05-2007, 02:52 PM

Ha. If it's the Super Adaptoid it might be a bit anti-climactic. He's not a conquerer like Anni, not to mention he got one-shotted by the Thing in a recent appearance.

Also. At first I confused the Awesome Android with the Super Adaptoid, a funny if not perplexing mistake to make.

One could argue that Annihilus was a bit of a let down at first too... but they upgraded him for this event.

IF the Super Adaptoind is the big bad here (I kinda doubt it, but who knows), they'd simply have to upgrade him too. He's been a cosmic level being before (when he had the cosmic cube). In Justice League Unlimited, we saw how powerful Amazo (who is similari to the Adaptoid in a lot of ways) became.

Captain Mobra

05-06-2007, 03:57 PM

The thought remains that Adaptoid really doesn't have the motivation to try to pull off "Conquest". I mean, I'm all behind resurrecting old characters and putting new spins on them, but Annihilus at least made sense in his role to begin with. His motive was obvious and you coudln't really explain to him that his mission didn't make sense.

Adaptoid's psychology would have to be changed on a basic level for him to make sense as a "Conquerer".

BeastieRunner

05-07-2007, 12:32 AM

Since I like to reach . . . how about the Technet from Excalibur/Captain Britain? That would be awesome!

PatchMadripoor

05-07-2007, 11:17 AM

Hmm.... the Super adaptiod has been around the presence of Ravenous and most of the allied powerhouses (Paibok, Terrax). It is highly possible he was within the powered-up Annihilus and even Thanos (though not seen). what he gained from them in "adapting" to them may give him enough of an edge, and a twisted version of the name's above respective "visions" of how the universe should be.

Nova3333

05-08-2007, 04:14 PM

...might be Paradigm. He is the Chinese mutant who was a technokinetic infected with the T-O Virus by the Chinese government. He could cover people in his techno-matter and control them in that manner. Paradigm told the X-Force that he was going to go adventuring in an attempt to further evolve himself, and he departed never to be seen again. Paradigm shares the abilities of the Phalanx race: restructure of his body matter to form various objects, interface with technology, and absorb outside matter into his body. However, because of the unique nature of the combination of host and alien he is gifted with unique abilities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_%28comics%29

The why's and wherefor's of his motivation are yet to be seen...

Now that's odd because I started working on a fan-fic some months back and it was to feature a story involving Nova and the return of the true Phallanx and Paradigm would've been involved BUT I lost my issues of X-Force that featured him so thanks for the link. May dust the script off and carry it on but wouldn't it be interesting if the Phallanx are the big-bad of Conquest because they deserve the limelight again..though better still the Technarchy..or better still a new species combining the aspects of the Techarchy, Phallanx and Brood..that would be a nightmare..but what would you call them?

TheGreatest

05-09-2007, 07:51 AM

Anyone considered Apocalypse? He has recently been swiped by the Celestials in order to serve some purpose.

koalakhan

05-12-2007, 05:51 AM

I think its the Shiar. With Vulcan taking over, i think hes going to take the empire in a new direction. and they are probably the most powerful empire in the universe in terms of tech and military. plus the xmen arc is finishing this month.

jayntampa

05-12-2007, 09:24 AM

Kang or the Technarchy seem to make the most sense ... until you throw Bug into the mix, and Psycho-man seems to be possible.

Personally, being a Nova fan, I wouldn't mind seeing the Sphinx brought back ... a reality-bending immortal is always fun :P

Pwood

05-16-2007, 10:29 AM

I personally think that it is going to be Kang the Conqueror simply because the title of the series seems to hint at it much like the title of Annihiliation gave way for Annihilus

XPac

05-16-2007, 10:36 AM

I personally think that it is going to be Kang the Conqueror simply because the title of the series seems to hint at it much like the title of Annihiliation gave way for Annihilus

True... but it would be somewhat out of character for Kang to not involve himself in a non-earth related conquest scheme.

He usually focus on conquering earth and specifically challenging the Avengers for kicks. He's rarely shown any sort of interest in grander non-earth related cosmic stuff.

Not that there's anything wrong with expanding one's horizens.

Course, if Annihilus isn't the villian I wonder why it would be even called Annihilation.

Pwood

05-16-2007, 10:41 AM

True... but it would be somewhat out of character for Kang to not involve himself in a non-earth related conquest scheme.

He usually focus on conquering earth and specifically challenging the Avengers for kicks. He's rarely shown any sort of interest in grander non-earth related cosmic stuff.

Not that there's anything wrong with expanding one's horizens.

Course, if Annihilus isn't the villian I wonder why it would be even called Annihilation.

Touche...touche...

Brother Zag

05-16-2007, 03:34 PM

I don't know why, but I have a feeling the new Arch-Villain will be somehow tied into The Beyonder.

Pwood

05-16-2007, 03:37 PM

I don't know why, but I have a feeling the new Arch-Villain will be somehow tied into The Beyonder.

I think that would be a bad idea...

Captain Mobra

05-16-2007, 03:47 PM

It's gotten to the point where I can't even guess any more. Everyone seems a bit off so far. I think the closest would be the Shi'ar, but then there's the hints about technology.

Pwood

05-16-2007, 03:50 PM

It's gotten to the point where I can't even guess any more. Everyone seems a bit off so far. I think the closest would be the Shi'ar, but then there's the hints about technology.

Considering the Uncanny X-Men just featured a 12 issue story arc concerning the Shi'ar Empire, it's doubtful they would incorporate it into another series so soon. It would be like beating the fans over the head with Shi'ar stories. I agree, though, it's really up in the air for me as well...

drwho

05-17-2007, 09:42 AM

Given what we know has happened to the Shiar empire in Uncanny I think it would be interesting to see Vulcan as the main villain here.

Expletive Deleted

05-17-2007, 09:44 AM

Err . . . what happened to the Shi'ar?

drwho

05-17-2007, 09:54 AM

Uncanny X-Men spoilers

Well Vulcan the evil crazy nit wit 3rd Summers brother was made emperor of the Shiarand the story isnt resolved in the current arc. There is a rebel faction, but some of the Shiar including the Imperial Guardsman had no problem following Vulcan and his queen Deathbird. Havok, Polaris, and Rachel stayed in space to fight Vulcan with the Star Jammers. It was mentioned we would be seeing the group again. PErhaps under different writers Vulcan could be made a better character.

This would be a kind of cool way to bring in X-Men readers into the cosmic fold of things for MArvel.

mdg1

05-17-2007, 10:32 AM

Course, if Annihilus isn't the villian I wonder why it would be even called Annihilation.

Brand recognition?

Pwood

05-17-2007, 03:14 PM

Brand recognition?

Good point. The way I see it is that the name is merely for the sequel to reference to. Let's also not rule out the possibility of mabe two archvillains, i.e. Kang, the Conqueror (due to the Conquest part of the title) and Annihilus (due to both the title and the last pages of Annihilation #6).

Blackcat

05-25-2007, 09:18 AM

I thought I did read somewhere Magus (the one of Infinity Gauntlet) will play a major part, so my bets are on him, secondly Ravenous

widdershins

05-29-2007, 04:17 PM

Quoi,the cotati and the priests of pama.

1) Starlord's team has Mantis,whithout the annoying offspring.Given that for years on end Quoi has been her only preoccupation,there must be a good reason for his absence.And there's also a wooden alien in the group (a rebel? a pla...ahem a spy?)

2) Phyla and Moondragon are on a quest on a fantasy planet in Kree Space.This screams Cotati and Priests of Pama.

3) Hints about technology: probably the fiendish vegetables revert the various planets they take root in to a pristine,un-technological state,thereby rendering space travel impossible.

Cthulhudrew

05-29-2007, 05:04 PM

1) Starlord's team has Mantis,whithout the annoying offspring.Given that for years on end Quoi has been her only preoccupation,there must be a good reason for his absence.And there's also a wooden alien in the group (a rebel? a pla...ahem a spy?)

IIRC, in the (horribl) Avengers: Celestial Quest series, hadn't Quoi matured into adulthood and gone off with the reptile lady (one of Reptyl's former lackeys)? I thought Mantis had let him go his own way.

In any event, a good thought. It does tie a lot of things together.

Hatut Zeraze

05-30-2007, 09:53 PM

This would be a kind of cool way to bring in X-Men readers into the cosmic fold of things for MArvel.

please, please, please, NO! Don't the X-Men have enough comics already? Every month for the last 20 years they have had 2 or 3 or 5 or 6 titles chronicling the endless drone of the Marvel mutants.

I was driven away from Marvel comics for years and years because of the X-Men. Only recently have I been getting back to Marvel in a strong way, and it is because I can read Captain America, Daredevil, She-Hulk, and Thunderbolts, without having to worry too much about what is going on in the X-titles that I really, really don't like.

One of Annihilation's greatest strengths was that it avoided the whole Civil War storyline that was dominating Marvel at the time. Annihilation was pretty self-contained, not relying much on what the other comics were doing at the time. It would kill half the fun of Annihilation if they co-opted their story to closely link it to some other non-Annihilation title (especially the X-titles, IMO).

I don't mean to take away from your enjoyment of the X-comics. Enjoy them all you want. They are not my cup of tea. I just want to enjoy Annihilation for its own sake, not as an extension of a comic I would never buy.

Nobbel

05-31-2007, 03:36 AM

...magnus...

40yearoldnovafan

05-31-2007, 08:31 AM

I don't know why, but I have a feeling the new Arch-Villain will be somehow tied into The Beyonder.

I think I'm inclined to believe it's the beyonder. Why - because s/he was broken out of the Kiln and now his "true nature" is being addressed in Avengers: Illuminati. In the article about the Illuminati issue it is mentioned that new writers would be able to use the after this origin story. How was the Beyonder introduced to us readers? In a huuuge Marvel event (a little something called Secret Wars). He tried to have heroes and villains fight to the death.

And he is very powerful.

I say maybe the Dire Wraiths because I truly believe the Space Knights were brought into Annihilation for some reason or another. And there is one shown in the preview of Annihilation: Prologue. The Dire Wraiths would be a great Sci Fi villain.

Jimmy

TheBest246

06-06-2007, 07:15 AM

I posted Revanous originally but after I bit of thought it all started to make sense who the villain would be…………………. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(comics)

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06-06-2007, 09:12 AM

... but after I bit of thought it all started to make sense who the villain would be: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(comics)What makes you think it might be Entropy?

Nova3333

06-09-2007, 01:28 PM

What makes you think it might be Entropy?

Hold on. Didn't Captain Marvel (when mad) blast Entropy to atoms causing the universe to be reborn (again) and ended up becoming his father Eternity? As is hot fav is either Apocalypse, Kang, Techarchy or Tony Stark. Darren.

Hatut Zeraze

06-09-2007, 08:32 PM

I sure hope the new arch-villain isn't the Human Cannonball.

Nova3333

06-10-2007, 10:21 AM

I sure hope the new arch-villain isn't the Human Cannonball.

or the human rocket..I mean it would be a bit of cosmic irony that Nova, hero of Annihilation, ends up going insane and he ends up being the big bad with Phylia on his case.

Jared H.

06-13-2007, 01:02 PM

Read the preview copy at my LCS, and found out who the main villains are:

It's the Phalanx. No idea why they're not calling themselves the Technarchy, though...

Deus ex Chris

06-13-2007, 01:32 PM

Wow, and that's when my excitement for this event was, well, annihilated.

Jared H.

06-13-2007, 01:39 PM

Wow, and that's when my excitement for this event was, well, annihilated.

Really? I thought the actual execution in the comic was very well done.

40yearoldnovafan

06-13-2007, 02:02 PM

Wow, and that's when my excitement for this event was, well, annihilated.

I have not read or seen Conquest: Prologue, yet. However, with this being a scifi event, I can actually see that villain working well. I never liked the villain when "it" showed up in the series it showed up in. But, hey, new writers and artists. Science fiction story. This villain is more relevant in these types of stories than where it originated.

Plus, it's being done by the Annihilation writers. And it has Nova, Starlord, Ronan, and more of the Annihilation cast. More importantly, DnA, baby!

Jimmy

Deus ex Chris

06-13-2007, 02:04 PM

Keith_Martineau

06-13-2007, 02:09 PM

I'm not dismissing the event. I'll still pick up the prologue, and the first issues of the various minis. I'm just saying that my excitement is gone. Call me cynical, but I've never seen an enjoyable story come from the use of that particular concept. I hope that changes, but I can't help but feel disappointed.

I see what yer saying---but think about it this way.

Annihilus was never anywhere near the threat he was in the past BEFORE Annihilation, and now he can be considered a top level cosmic threat. All the work of talented writers.

Same can be done with the Phalanx.

mdg1

06-13-2007, 02:11 PM

Huh... I didn't think that guess would end up being right.

Do we see Magus? If not, that could be why they aren't using the Technarcy name... the Phalanx are sort of like Technarchy leftovers

Jared H.

06-13-2007, 02:14 PM

I see what yer saying---but think about it this way.

Annihilus was never anywhere near the threat he was in the past BEFORE Annihilation, and now he can be considered a top level cosmic threat. All the work of talented writers.

Same can be done with the _____

Ya might wanna spoiler tag the above, Keith. Expletive Deleted has asked to keep the spoilers to a mnimum.

Jared H.

06-13-2007, 02:18 PM

Huh... I didn't think that guess would end up being right.

Do we see Magus? If not, that could be why they aren't using the Technarcy name... the Phalanx are sort of like Technarchy leftovers

Nope. No Magus. And their modus operandi is somewhat different from standard technarchy. They didn't seem to transmode anyone; rather, they mind-controlled them with cybernetics over their eyes or somesuch. They also seemed to be able to somehow remotely control other technlology rather than directly interface.

mdg1

06-13-2007, 02:25 PM

That could explain it, then. And the different approach could be an attempt to prevent attracting the attention of the big guy.

40yearoldnovafan

06-13-2007, 02:37 PM

Nope. No Magus. And their modus operandi is somewhat different from standard technarchy. They didn't seem to transmode anyone; rather, they mind-controlled them with cybernetics over their eyes or somesuch. They also seemed to be able to somehow remotely control other technlology rather than directly interface.

I think Nova is going to be remote controlled via the World Mind, via the Tech villain.

Jimmy

Nova3333

06-13-2007, 03:33 PM

I think Nova is going to be remote controlled via the World Mind, via the Tech villain.

Jimmy

How ya doing Jimmy? It'll be very coincidental if the main villian/ race do happen to be related to the technarchy or the Phallanx; on and off inbetween things I've been doing research to do a Nova fan-fic..or maybe an illustrated story that involves either race..as they'd be a good adversary for Nova..and lets face it what would happen if the Worldmind did get infected by a virus? How'd rich cope? Would this lead to the emergence of Dark Nova as predicted by the late Wendell Vaughn in Annihilation Nova: 3? Anyway waited to start reading Nova 3 (which i won't see till the weekend, I hope and Conquest Prologue and then we'll know who, or what everyone is facing this time around..and even if it is/ isn't the Phallanx, or the Techanrchy, well I'm iteching to do this tale one way or another..Darren.

40yearoldnovafan

06-13-2007, 08:10 PM

How ya doing Jimmy? It'll be very coincidental if the main villian/ race do happen to be related to the technarchy or the Phallanx; on and off inbetween things I've been doing research to do a Nova fan-fic..or maybe an illustrated story that involves either race..as they'd be a good adversary for Nova..and lets face it what would happen if the Worldmind did get infected by a virus? How'd rich cope? Would this lead to the emergence of Dark Nova as predicted by the late Wendell Vaughn in Annihilation Nova: 3? Anyway waited to start reading Nova 3 (which i won't see till the weekend, I hope and Conquest Prologue and then we'll know who, or what everyone is facing this time around..and even if it is/ isn't the Phallanx, or the Techanrchy, well I'm iteching to do this tale one way or another..Darren.

I have seen Conquest: Prologue. All I will say is it will not disappoint. WOW!

Jimmy

mlightner69

06-14-2007, 10:36 AM

I have seen a little of the conquest: villain and I don't believe we see all that there is in the prologue. The villain appears to be different than we have seen in the past so there appears to be MUCH more to this villain than just what you see in this issue.

mlightner69

06-14-2007, 11:10 AM

Nova3333

06-14-2007, 11:42 AM

As for some more depth to the Conquest: Villain spoilers: I mentioned in an earlier post a guy by the name of Paradigm who who not only had the Phalanx's penchant for shapeshifting but was able to control the minds of people that he covered with his techno-matter. Like the Kree are seen in Conquest: Prologue end of spoilers

Well Jimmy and mlighner69. If you are both right, and it is it/them..it'll be a double-whammy for me as he/it was going to be my principal villain for Nova in my fan fic..and I started ploting this during Annihilation last year..I wonder if I have the gift of prophesy..or its sheer bloodly coincidence..then again DNA are Brits and I am Brit so we often think alike..weird.

40yearoldnovafan

06-14-2007, 11:59 AM

Well Jimmy and mlighner69. If you are both right, and it is it/them..it'll be a double-whammy for me as he/it was going to be my principal villain for Nova in my fan fic..and I started ploting this during Annihilation last year..I wonder if I have the gift of prophesy..or its sheer bloodly coincidence..then again DNA are Brits and I am Brit so we often think alike..weird.

I'm starting to think you Brits have a hive mind. Good thing I'm a yankee.:D

Jimmy

Nova3333

06-14-2007, 12:02 PM

I'm starting to think your Brits have a hive mind. Good thing I'm a yankee.:D

Jimmy

Jimmy If I do have a hive mind it'll be a worry. I hate bees! Darren.

mlightner69

06-14-2007, 12:47 PM

Jimmy If I do have a hive mind it'll be a worry. I hate bees! Darren.

Well I can 100% confirm the first part but the second is still highly speculation on my part but backed by alot of fact in the prologue.

mlightner69

06-14-2007, 12:52 PM

Well Jimmy and mlighner69. If you are both right, and it is it/them..it'll be a double-whammy for me as he/it was going to be my principal villain for Nova in my fan fic..and I started ploting this during Annihilation last year..I wonder if I have the gift of prophesy..or its sheer bloodly coincidence..then again DNA are Brits and I am Brit so we often think alike..weird.

This is actually the quote I was aiming at in the last post. Jimmy is verified 100% mine is speculation but with high probability I would say.

Xero

06-14-2007, 04:04 PM

Strange you made up a list and completely forgot the Spartoi, Starlord's people third largest Empire in the galaxy behind the Shi'Ar and the Kree.

Lord S

06-15-2007, 12:45 PM

I wonder if Vulcan will make an appearance in some capacity. It'd be nice to see a meeting between him and Ronan. The thought of Ronan thumbing his nose at him and calling him a filthy terran is very sweet. :D

Will.S

06-16-2007, 11:39 AM

I'm kind of surprised nobody spoiled the villain yet, aren't the preview copies out for the prologue?

Dagger

06-16-2007, 06:07 PM

I have not read or seen Conquest: Prologue, yet. However, with this being a scifi event, I can actually see that villain working well. I never liked the villain when "it" showed up in the series it showed up in. But, hey, new writers and artists. Science fiction story. This villain is more relevant in these types of stories than where it originated.

Plus, it's being done by the Annihilation writers. And it has Nova, Starlord, Ronan, and more of the Annihilation cast. More importantly, DnA, baby!

Jimmy
I looked at it today, and was blown away with it!

It looks and read amazing! I'm totally thrilled by these villians making a comeback! I so can't wait for this to start!

Will.S

06-16-2007, 10:16 PM

Read the preview copy at my LCS, and found out who the main villains are:

It's the Phalanx. No idea why they're not calling themselves the Technarchy, though...
D'oh missed this post!

Anyway, how did they look? Were they in their gold plated circuit look or in their later all black organic look in Uncanny during the Lobdell run?

Kyle_Ion

06-18-2007, 02:35 AM

I voted for The Phalanx/Technarchy, but then again the writers probably all ready have an idea for a villian in there mind.

Jared H.

06-19-2007, 01:28 PM

D'oh missed this post!

Anyway, how did they look? Were they in their gold plated circuit look or in their later all black organic look in Uncanny during the Lobdell run?

More like the latter.

Nova3333

06-19-2007, 03:23 PM

More like the latter.

Glad you sorta confirmed this. Helps with the fan-fic i'm doing which I started plotting last year and it featured that version. I'll be doing illustations as I'm gearing up to do a bit of fan-art during Conquest as me and several artists did the same last time during Annihilation on this forum.

Nobbel

06-20-2007, 02:27 PM

RH_Duncan

06-20-2007, 02:44 PM

wow--- I just wet my---, ehmm----, never mind, not of your business anyway, hihi

CMBMOOL

06-20-2007, 03:12 PM

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06-20-2007, 03:13 PM

... makes Annihilus looks like a baby in a stroller. He sort of is, at the moment.

Nova3333

06-20-2007, 03:50 PM

When you want to know more on the big wave in this Annihilation Conquest look at:http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=117456

Don't they look awesome???

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/annihilation/Conquest/ANNCONPRO001043_col.jpg

I do like the new design..taking very much the basics of the Pure Phallanx seen in UXM 342-344 and giving then a good upgrading..also Raney's five design type concept sketches look sweet..Giving a specific look to a particular niche in the Phalanx gestalt..though comparisons to the Matrix are bound to be made..but none of these to me speak of what is co-ordinating the Phallax. What controls their function? Something has to keep track of their movements..I do have an idea..but as it's in a fan-fic of mine I'll keep quiet for the moment.

IMJ

06-20-2007, 05:40 PM

They look like copies of Skeletron from the old Starblast series that Marvel let die before it could pick up any steam.

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06-20-2007, 05:51 PM

They look like copies of Skeletron from the old Starblast series that Marvel let die before it could pick up any steam.Starblast sucked, sure, but I'm not sure what you mean by "let die." It was a crossover that ran through to its intended finish.

jeffmace

06-20-2007, 06:27 PM

I almost expected them to say, "Resistance is futile," a la the Borg from Star Trek.

Somebody

06-20-2007, 06:48 PM

It clicked that it was the Phalanx when I saw the Kree Sentries forming themselves into a Babel Spire, about halfway through the issue. The fact that they kept the yellow border/dotted line speech balloons sealed it.

One thing that's struck me over the Phalanx redesign here though - they've got "Cable" T-O (silver/smooth metal) rather than "Technarchy" T-O (yellow-black, messy circuitry). Odd...

The Adventurer

06-20-2007, 07:52 PM

I almost expected them to say, "Resistance is futile," a la the Borg from Star Trek.

But they did say "As you Command" which is pretty close to "By Your Command" ala the Cylons of Battlestar Galactica./=

Cthulhudrew

06-20-2007, 10:03 PM

They do look cool. I wonder if the Technarchy (and the Magus) will show up, or if it's just going to be Phalanx?

(Had a weird theory- what if the Magus/Technarchy is somehow the Magus/Warlock in a strange, mutated, time-displaced way?)

IMJ

06-20-2007, 11:42 PM

Starblast sucked, sure, but I'm not sure what you mean by "let die." It was a crossover that ran through to its intended finish.

I don't want to hijack the thread but just the quick thing about Starblast:
Marvel began promoting it heavily at the time and was going with a decent art team. Soon into it, they felt that sales on it weren't going to help the titles it was designed to save (Namor, Q-Ball, etc) and they switched to a cheaper team (which also got them significantly less attractive art) and simply stopped promoting the series right in the middle of it. Marvel dropped the ball on Starblast and let it die rather than seeing it through back in the day, man.

But I digress... because I'm not reading this Annihilation series anyway.... :(

Sean Walsh

06-21-2007, 10:34 AM

I'd assumed all the Phalanx looked alike (like Warlock, and the folks in the Phalanx Covenant event). I guess I was wrong. :p

Starblast sucked, sure, but I'm not sure what you mean by "let die." It was a crossover that ran through to its intended finish.

Don't forget it was like 19 parts or something. And one of the most random weird crossovers ever - FF, Secret Defenders (:confused:), Namor...

mdg1

06-21-2007, 11:10 AM

The best source for Phalanx/Technarchy information online is the Techno-Organic FAQ:

http://www.cuug.ab.ca/lapierrs/creative/comics/t-o.faq.html

And I'm not just saying that because I contributed to it. ;)

steve2275

06-22-2007, 06:59 AM

i see parts of alien and predator:cool:

streator

06-22-2007, 07:46 AM

i like the sketches better than that colored page, personally.

Kyle_Ion

06-22-2007, 07:01 PM

Wait a minute isn't the Phalanx/Technarchy one of the enemies of the Shi'ar Empire. If they are then I can see the Shi'ar empire getting involved in this as well.

DaeJi

06-22-2007, 07:03 PM

I would LOVE to see the Shi'ar be more than X-Men guest stars, but with the barrier around the Kree and the Shi'ar's recent change in leadership I don't see that happening.

Kyle_Ion

06-22-2007, 08:36 PM

I would LOVE to see the Shi'ar be more than X-Men guest stars, but with the barrier around the Kree and the Shi'ar's recent change in leadership I don't see that happening.

what happened to lilandra, I thought she was still the ruler of the Shi'ar Empire.

DaeJi

06-22-2007, 08:38 PM

Vulcan, the uber-powerful third Summers brother, recently took over the throne with Deathbird as his queen.

mcgaffer

06-22-2007, 08:44 PM

That big one in the picture reminds me a lot of Apocalypse.

Will.S

06-23-2007, 07:31 AM

I do like the new design..taking very much the basics of the Pure Phallanx seen in UXM 342-344 and giving then a good upgrading..also Raney's five design type concept sketches look sweet..Giving a specific look to a particular niche in the Phalanx gestalt..though comparisons to the Matrix are bound to be made..but none of these to me speak of what is co-ordinating the Phallax. What controls their function? Something has to keep track of their movements..I do have an idea..but as it's in a fan-fic of mine I'll keep quiet for the moment.
I kind of liked the look the Pure Phallanx had in Uncanny:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6105/phalanxjm6.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1953/phalanx2iz3.jpg

Dagger

06-23-2007, 07:38 AM

I kind of liked the look the Pure Phallanx had in Uncanny:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6105/phalanxjm6.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1953/phalanx2iz3.jpg
God, I loved that run!

Nova3333

06-23-2007, 02:44 PM

Are DOOM to the rescue! Thanks for posting the scans from UXM. That is the version i'm using for my fan-fic..well for a short while...

Blackcat

06-23-2007, 04:59 PM

Only now Rogue isn't in space to save the day, so I guess the universe is screwed!

Siddon

06-23-2007, 06:32 PM

Not a fan, they look a little to busy, loved the 90's versions. But this is clearly a series I can't wait for the collections.

DaeJi

06-23-2007, 11:05 PM

I miss that outfit; it's my favorite rogue look :( Aww.. to return to the 90's again, when it was all about the X-Men... and Furrbies... and boy.. bands... Hmmm.. maybe it's better the 90's ended... still miss the outfit (and Joe Mad! His Ultimates better be good and on time).

mlightner69

06-26-2007, 01:55 AM

Heya all, I got lucky with my guess on the bad group in Conquest so far and following that line I also guessed, a while back in the http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=166370&page=10 thread, at who the BIG BAD behind all this is. He is a little known Mutant Technokinetic who went by the name of Paradigm and was one of the New Hellions of a bygone time. Paradigm shares the abilities of the Phalanx race: restructure of his body matter to form various objects, interface with technology, and absorb outside matter into his body. However, because of the unique nature of the combination of host and alien he is gifted with unique abilities. He is able to control the minds of people that he covers with his techno-matter. In his last appearance Paradigm told X-Force that he was going to go adventuring in an attempt to further evolve himself, and he departed never to be seen again. What say you, oh cosmic forum?

Hatut Zeraze

06-26-2007, 02:08 PM

I'm not freaking out over the appearance of the Phalanx, but I'm really, really hoping this sequal doesn't turn into the space arm of the X-comics.

I'm not saying there's anything inherently bad about the character you mentioned, but I was hoping the BIG BAD would be someone that means something to more readers than just the few that read and remember that specific obscure character.

Nova3333

06-26-2007, 04:33 PM

mlightner69

06-26-2007, 05:58 PM

You sure you haven't been sneeking at my notes?

:D No, not really but I saw your posts in the other thread and realize just how close your fanfic is to some current storylines. Congratz on a good plotline eh?

BeastieRunner

06-26-2007, 09:05 PM

I hope it's just the Phalanx, no leader. Makes it different from the first Annihilation.

danteipp

06-26-2007, 09:35 PM

I hope it's just the Phalanx, no leader. Makes it different from the first Annihilation.

Not sure if it has to be a true leader per se, it could be someone using the Phalanx for their own ends. Perhaps to soften up the Kree and the other cosmic defenders, then plans to topple the Phalanx and follow his/her own agenda. The Phalanx might not even be aware of the puppet master pulling their strings and it eventually becomes a three-way war.

Kyle_Ion

06-26-2007, 11:31 PM

but who would have the guts to pull the strings on the phalanx so to speak.

1WEBHEAD

06-26-2007, 11:34 PM

but who would have the guts to pull the strings on the phalanx so to speak.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39838000/jpg/_39838303_alien_203.jpg

I do!

mdg1

06-27-2007, 06:54 AM

I'm still hoping Psycho-Man turns up somewhere.

Cthulhudrew

07-26-2007, 06:58 PM

Finally picked up Quasar and Star-Lord #1, and something occurred to me. I know that, ostensibly, the Phalanx appear to be the threat behind Conquest, but I can't shake the feeling that that's not the whole story- that there might be something or someone else.

In particular, I got to thinking about a couple of the characters involved in Conquest, and a bit of information dropped in both titles, relating to the role of Celestial Madonna.

Moondragon and Mantis are both involved in the Conquest storyline, and were candidates for the role. We also know that there was at least one other notable character who has been involved with the Celestial Madonna in various incarnations before, and who might be tied in with the Conquest theme- Kang the Conqueror.

In many of his identities (Rama-Tut, Kang, and Immortus) he was connected to the Celestial Madonna. And Kang just might have (or have access to) the kind of technology that could shunt the entirety of Kree space out of phase with the rest of the universe- something that also keeps popping up in various Conquest stories as being not possible.

Hmm...

[EDIT- Just read over the Annihilation Diaries with Bill Rosemann, and it looks like the plan was always the Phalanx after all, so I'm probably off base. Still, the CM ties have me wondering.]

DaeJi

07-26-2007, 07:11 PM

It would have been a cool idea, but I don't think there's any secret boss pulling the strings here; the Phalanx just seem to have gotten the mother of all upgrades. I think the CM tie between Moondragon and Mantis is just pure chance; Moondragon is with Quasar now (in a weird way, "finally" with Quasar), and didn't Mantis already have a kid with some Cotati?

Expletive Deleted

07-26-2007, 07:13 PM

I don't think it's out of the question (the last minute reveal of another threat would be a nice twist), but everything Rosemann and company are saying seems to indicate it's unlikely.

Raker Q.

07-26-2007, 07:25 PM

got this from one of the panels so you may not be off on your thoughts...

McCann plugged Annihilation: Conquest, and the return of the Phalanx (the main villain in the series). He outlined the tie-in mini-series and Nova. McCann added that there is "somebody behind the Phalanx," and that there is a real "big bad" yet to be revealed.

DaeJi

07-26-2007, 07:26 PM

WHERE THE @#$&ing HELL DID YOU GET THAT?!

Raker Q.

07-26-2007, 07:28 PM

....from Newsarama....6 paragraph down... http://www.newsarama.com/Comic-Con_07/Marvel/mondopanel.html

DaeJi

07-26-2007, 07:30 PM

Heddity... beeey...idididid... *twitch* SWEET! Who, I mean... maybe Kang is involved?!

Raker Q.

07-26-2007, 07:36 PM

Kang seems to be the prime candidate especially for reasons that Cthulhudrew mentioned......I would love to see Kang actually become a Conqueror rather than an Avengers villain that always gets defeated.....kind of like what Annihilus was to Fantastic Four but then again....maybe Kang is too obvious and its someone else......hmmmm.......let the speculation begin!