ps3 vs xbox 360

[lushe]

well there is alot of talk going around saying that the 360 is comparible to the ps3 I would like to debate this as civil as possible and with out being baised

[BlairH]

There is a forum for this:

My thoughts on the matter are fairly clear: The PS3 has yet to be launched in Europe, when it launches, there will -perhaps- be 2 games worth buying (Resistance Fall of Man and...I'll give benefit of the doubt and assume that there is another). By contrast, I've had my 360 for just over a year, and, in that time, I've purchased around 15 games, all of them worth playing.

I have Windows Vista (Home Premium) on all of my PCs. The 360 has a built in Media Center Extender, meaning that any content (including high def content) on my PCs can be streamed to any TV in my house via the 360. This is a massive boon. I love being able to watch recorded episodes of Prison Break on my (parent's) projector.

As for exclusive titles: I'm a big fan of FPS games. The 360 will have Halo 3, the PS3 will have Killzone 2. Killzone sucks (IGN: 7.5/10, Eurogamer: 5/10), so I don't have high hopes for Killzone 2. The PS3 might have Squaresoft "on side" when it comes to RPGs, but the 360 has Bioware! Final Fantasy 13 looks nice and all, but I'm getting tired of traditional Japanese RPGs. Mass Effect, from Bioware, on the oher hand looks amazing, and looks to be doing things that no other RPG has ever done before.

Sony apparently hasn't learnt any lessons from their dreadful online "service" for the PS2 (In Europe, it was very difficult to find people to play with/against). The PS3 online service -although much improved over the previous incarnation- still lacks basic functionality. Where is my friends list?

That said, for some reason, I'm looking forward to the PS3. I don't want to see sony fail. I want to see some decent competition, and I'm sure that within a year there will be loads of great games for it. That and I could really use a cheap Blu-ray player.

[The Fury]

Europe is a huge market for Sony so don't count it out yet.


All i hope is that whatever rivalry there is that all in all the gaming industry wins.

[Kevin M.]

The PS3 is going to be a good system but it wount be as big of a hit as the PS2.

[BlairH]

The PS3 is going to be a good system but it wount be as big of a hit as the PS2.

I still think it will be a fairly big hit. When the European layman thinks of console gaming, he normally thinks "playstation".

The PS1 was the first console that made gaming "cool". Pre-Playstation, gaming was looked upon as a geeky hobby, but when the PS1 was released, suddenly, people were playing Wipeout in nightclubs! We owe a great deal to Sony.

[cactusmaac]

When the European layman sees "£425", he normally thinks "F**k that".

[BlairH]

When the Euopean layman sees "£425", he normally thinks "F**k that".

Yeah, that too, especially considering that a Premium 360 can be had for £300 with 2 or more games.

[Sanagi]

Buy a PS3 if you want a blu-ray player that also plays games. Buy a 360 if you want an old-fashioned game system with new-fangled graphics. Buy a Wii if you want a new-fangled game system with old-fashioned graphics.

[Michael P]

I still think it will be a fairly big hit. When the European layman thinks of console gaming, he normally thinks "playstation".

The PS1 was the first console that made gaming "cool". Pre-Playstation, gaming was looked upon as a geeky hobby, but when the PS1 was released, suddenly, people were playing Wipeout in nightclubs! We owe a great deal to Sony.

Maybe Europe is different, but in the US, gaming is still looked upon as a geeky hobby. PS1 just made it prettier.

[BlairH]

Maybe Europe is different, but in the US, gaming is still looked upon as a geeky hobby. PS1 just made it prettier.

The PS1 sparked something of a cultural revolution over here. Suddenly, all the trendy folks who sported Sony Walkmans and the like were hooked on the Playstation.

[Xero Kaiser]

Maybe Europe is different, but in the US, gaming is still looked upon as a geeky hobby. PS1 just made it prettier.

Yeah...no, it isn't. It's become as mainstream and popular as anything. People talk about Madden or whatever else the same way they talk about a TV show.

Maybe if you're running around cosplaying or something, but gaming isn't looked upon as a geeky hobby when damn near everyone's got a playstation or an Xbox. That changed a long time ago

[Astonishing X-Fan]

I own both. The 360 is much better in every way.

[Thorlief]

why are these comparisons still important? One will have certain games the other one wont, and vice versa. Pick up the one with the games you want. End of story.

[Gargus]

Wow most of these replies come from people who arent real gamers, so I would take no stock in the replies myself.

No gamer would argue which system is better. A system or manufacturer do not make a system good. Its the games on it that make it good. If a system costs 100 dollars and all the games on it suck, then you have a 100 dollar paperweight. Cant say sony, nintendo or microsoft are good or bad, the companies themselves make very few games at all and even then they just publish them. I mean if what the system has in it and who makes it is what makes a difference and everyone here seems like to microsoft over sony lets try some comparrison. xbox 360 vs playstation 1, who had the better games? xbox 360 vs super nintendo, who had the better games? If you say xbox then your probablly just a graphics whore and have no concept of a good game.

Not fair to put sony under the microscope yet as the system just came out. Every system has a crappy launch in one way or another. When 360 came out everyone forgot it was exactly like the ps3 launch. Very few units, big price tag (for the time) and high ebay prices. Took 5 months to get them on store shelves again. The wii had few units, not many games except zelda which you could get on gamecube also. Sega had a nightmare with dreamcast especially since some launch titles wouldnt even play.

I mean your honestly comparing a couple year old system to one that is just a few months old? Of course any new one would look bad in comparrison to one thats on like 4th generation cycle of its games.

This whole argument is as stupid as intel vs amd.

Argue about games and such since that is ultimately why ps3 and wii exsist. As I said, a real gamer wouldnt care about the hardware, the name stamped on the system, what online community features it has, whether it can stream video files to a tv or have a dvd player to watch movies on or whatever cockamamy gimmick. Gamers play games for the games. If the games really meant something then they would be blind to what its being played on.

Me personally, I like the games. Hence why I play them.

But then again Im not like most people who look for a reason to bitch and complain. For awhile it was all about ps3 and everyone loved it but people dont have love for things long before they want to see it destroyed, we do this with movie stars also and even presidents. Yeah like how how bush could do no wrong and he was a god, now everyone makes fun of him. People just want to complain. It all starts with internet chatter to, one person says something bad about ps3 and next thing you know others follow their lead and dont even have a clue as to what they are talking about. The ignorancy of the internet will kill us all one day. Like how the time when the first xbox was hated by all and people actually though it would catch on fire, all because a system overheated at a trade show that was a beta unit. Hell people already turning against the wii, bitching about its short demo type games and no single player value. Wont be long and they will march to nintendo with torches and pitchforks like they did with ps3, xbox and everyother system once the newness wears off.

[Mike Pothier]

Right now, I'm not impressed enough to even consider the steep price-tag. I can get a 360 and a Wii for roughly the price of one PS3, and the 360 will play most of the games on the PS3, with just as good graphics.

Thats all I need to know.

[Xero Kaiser]

Wow most of these replies come from people who arent real gamers, so I would take no stock in the replies myself.

You like to say this. When did you become the authority on what a real gamer is? Putting that aside, you're ranting about nothing. Nobody here said, "Sony sucks because they're Sony", nobody here said "Microsoft rocks because they're Microsoft". People have repeatedly stated why they think 360 > PS3 and it boils down to exactly the kind of stuff you're saying "real gamers" should be looking for. You're whining about crap that nobody's ever even said. If people cared about brand loyalty, we'd all be PS3-whores.

If you say xbox then your probablly just a graphics whore and have no concept of a good game.

LAWL

what online community features it has

This is important. Online features have a direct effect on the gameplay/replay value. Why wouldn't a "real gamer" care about this?


I mean your honestly comparing a couple year old system to one that is just a few months old? Of course any new one would look bad in comparrison to one thats on like 4th generation cycle of its games.
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uhh....2nd generation there, buddy.

Yeah like how how bush could do no wrong and he was a god, now everyone makes fun of him

Yeah, everyone did like Bush, until he made a bunch of stupid decisions and was constantly making himself look like a fool by not living up to his claims/promises and being blind to his own mistakes.

Hey, you're right...PS3=Bush. Good call

It all starts with internet chatter to, one person says something bad about ps3 and next thing you know others follow their lead and dont even have a clue as to what they are talking about.

Or maybe it starts with actual problems with the system, a weak lineup and a high price?

As I said, a real gamer wouldnt care about the hardware, the name stamped on the system, what online community features it has, whether it can stream video files to a tv or have a dvd player to watch movies on or whatever cockamamy gimmick.

Uhhhh...yeah. If you've been paying attention lately, you'd know that people are, in fact, criticizing Sony for trying to make the PS3 some all-in-one entertainment center and using it to push Blu-Ray DVDs (and jacking up the price because of it) rather than focusing on games. MS has done some of this too, yes, but it's at little to no extra cost, so nobody cares.

Hell people already turning against the wii, bitching about its short demo type games and no single player value

Sounds like a legitimate complaint to me. You like paying $50 for gimmicky games with weak gameplay?

[Kid Kamikaze10]

After I'm done making a website for somebody, I'm getting a PS3. However, in all seriousness, I like 360 the most cause it hasn't disappointed me.

Wii, as many have said, feels shallow. Beside Zelda, it's a bunch of party games, with practically no depth.

PS3..... For a system that cost so much, it hasn't impressed me with any of it's features. It's online features aren't that great, the games out right now are lacking, etc. etc. The graphics look good though.

But, for some reason, I have a Wii, a 360, and will be getting a PS3, just because I want to get certain exclusives for each.

[Thorlief]

You like paying $50 for gimmicky games with weak gameplay?


people said the same about the DS when it was released, and look at what we have now.

[BlairH]

Wow most of these replies come from people who arent real gamers
Yeah, I've neen playing video games since 1989 so I'm obviously not a real gamer. Get off your moral high horse.

so I would take no stock in the replies myself.
Yeah, only you have input worthy of consideration. Your resume as a self styled "real gamer" is very impressive and renders everybody else redundant.

If you say xbox then your probablly just a graphics whore and have no concept of a good game.
Oh do shut up.

Every system has a crappy launch in one way or another.
That is true.

This whole argument is as stupid as intel vs amd.
The Intel vs AMD argument isn't stupid, because -at the moment- the newer Intel Core 2 Duo processors are miles ahead of the AMD processors in terms of power, efficiency, performance, power consumption, overclockability and even price.

a real gamer wouldnt care about the hardware
But every XBOX fan is obviously a "graphics whore" right?

what online community features it has
Don't be daft. The online community can make or break a game. What would World of Warcraft be like if there was no online community? What would Counterstrike be like?

whether it can stream video files to a tv
I'm also a home cinema buff. This type of stuff matters to me, but since it matters to me I'm obviously not a real gamer, because home cinema buffs just can't be gamers! They just can't! Your logic is absoluteley flawless and awesome!

Me personally, I like the games. Hence why I play them.
I spend at least 3 hours a day playing video games

But then again Im not like most people who look for a reason to bitch and complain.
Oh dear!

For awhile it was all about ps3 and everyone loved it but people dont have love for things long before they want to see it destroyed
See my earlier post re: Why I want the PS3 to be awesome.

The ignorancy of the internet will kill us all one day.
Thanks for the warning.

[Xero Kaiser]

people said the same about the DS when it was released, and look at what we have now.

Hey, I got my DS day one and even I said that. For a while it was true, but that doesn't mean that things can't change.

[Black Atom]

There is a forum for this:

My thoughts on the matter are fairly clear: The PS3 has yet to be launched in Europe, when it launches, there will -perhaps- be 2 games worth buying (Resistance Fall of Man and...I'll give benefit of the doubt and assume that there is another). .

Actually, my reaction to Resistance was just...meh. Granted, I only played for 15 minutes or so at a demo station, but it failed to inspire anything close to the "I gotta buy this" feeling I got after playing something like Crackdown for the same amount of time.

[Thorlief]

Hey, I got my DS day one and even I said that. For a while it was true, but that doesn't mean that things can't change.

they *will*. For now the launch list sucked big time, but 2007 should bring us some big guys like Galaxy, Prime 3, Brawl, MySims

heck, even Godzilla and Vanguard look great

[Xero Kaiser]

I've already accepted the fact that I'll be buying a Wii when the new Smash Brothers game comes out.

Anything else is just extra as far I'm concerned

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Gargus, quit the "real gamer" high horse crap. I've only seen you do it twice, and it's already gotten me annoyed.

Back on topic, Hopefully the PS3 will improve in terms of games because we already know what type of arsenal the Wii has this year, and the 360 is still going strong. I don't like competitors getting completely eliminated: it decreases the amount of choices you have, the variety of games, and the overall effort of the surviving companies.

[Sparda]

A gamer is a gamer when they play games they passionetly enjoy in thier hearts. Like how I enjoyed MGS 1, DMC, and beating FF6 for the first time. To me a game is just a good game and despite what console a person gets, there will always be games they will love, even crappy NFL ones. But I feel sorry for the gamers who unfortenetly force them selves into enjoy really shitty games with really good graphics. But there's few like that though.