WORLD WAR HULK: Whose Side Are They On?

[The Anti-Existence]

Hulk's coming back and will be raising Hell. To the extent, we don't know. But we know there will be a solid group of heroes against him. The real question on my mind is - who will side with Hulk? A lot of people in real life seem to sympathize with Hulk to an extent, so why not his actual former friends? If they found out the truth or were led to believe a part of the truth, would they join up with the Green Goliath?


So, draw up a list of heroes who will be Pro-Hulk and ones that will be Anti-Hulk. Give reasons why you think they'll be for or against him.

My question is on Thing. He's been a staple hero for a long time but he's beena friend of the Hulk for nearly as long. I honestly ain't sure where Benji will go when the sh*t hits the fan.

[MAK15]

We know the Illuminati will be anti-hulk cuz he wants to squish them.
We also know that Mastermind Excello will be on the Hulk's side, via issue 100.
It's a safe be that She-hulk will fight for hulk, due to the cover art of her series fighting Iron Man.

But as for other speculations it's gonna be hard to say for sure, since a lot of people have either this or that reason to fight for/against the hulkster.

[drwho]

No matter what i really cant see any reasonable superhero siding with hulk with a group of alien thugs taking over the earth. Some may sympathize about the Hulk wanting revenge, but that is as far as it would go.

[Samuraixsithlord]

If people don't take the Hulks side it wouldn't be that bad. After Planet Hulk The Hulk has become moew powerful then ever plus he's a trained fighter like Thor plus hehas the Spike elders and their children. his Shadow guards, legions of Soldiers at his commands, plus the aliens he made the blood oath with. I don't see many people siding with the Hulk (besides Jennifer and even that won't last)

[StoneGold]

It's kind of hard to say, as we still don't really know what the setup is for WWH. Hell, We don't have anything more than a name and a cover as far as information.

[Expletive Deleted]

We also have a couple of solicits, but, yeah, there's not a lot of info out there.

[StoneGold]

We also have a couple of solicits, but, yeah, there's not a lot of info out there.

Unless I've missed something, they solicits don't say much beyond WWH is happening. We don't know what Hulk's plan of attack is, though. Does he just start smashing? Does he bother explaining himself at all? How big an army is he leading?

[Will.S]

Unless I've missed something, they solicits don't say much beyond WWH is happening. We don't know what Hulk's plan of attack is, though. Does he just start smashing? Does he bother explaining himself at all? How big an army is he leading?
That's pretty much what I've been wondering.

[Expletive Deleted]

How big an army is he leading?As big as will fit in that stone spaceship of his, according to the WWH Prologue solicit.

Like I said, we don't have very much information. But we have a little.

[DoctorDoom]

I say former members of the Champions may side with him.

[Samuraixsithlord]

I thought the stone ship was going to be a spear head for The Hulks main force. and by the way, how powerful are the legions of Sakaar anyway? I'm pretty sure that its not Annihilation Wave big, but big enought so that conventional warfare on Earths side won't work.

[stingerman]

It'll be a three front war. The Illuminati, Caps Team and the Hulk's Team. Two might join together and then, when the third is history, battle it out or make peace.

[BigBoss]

I say the entire anti reg side just to get back at the pro regs. and birng them down.

[tjarvis]

I say the entire anti reg side just to get back at the pro regs. and birng them down.

If the Hulk is invading the Earth with an alien army, I think the anti-reg and the pro-reg will put aside their differences to deal with the much greater threat.

If the Hulk is only there for pure vengeance against the Illuminati, then the anti-reg might stay out of the line of fire.

As for his allies:

-Mastermind Excello - (Who will hopefully be intellectually bitch slapped by Reed at some point).
-Rick Jones
-Jennifer Walters - (although I think Shulkie has a breaking point where she'll see her cousing doing more harm than good).
Leonard Samson
Hercules - ???

And I'd be surprised to see many more. Sentry is friends with Hulk, but he's not going to cross Reed and Tony. Dr. Strange was part of the descion, which means the New Avengers are going to have his back. The X-Men will all rally around Xavier.

There are very few allies that Hulk would actually have.

[ivesaidway2much]

And I'd be surprised to see many more. Sentry is friends with Hulk, but he's not going to cross Reed and Tony. I find it very unlikely that the Sentry wouldn't side with the jade giant. The Hulk would do absolutely anything for the Sentry. He's deathly afraid of the Void, but when the Sentry asked the Hulk to, he followed Bob into the Negative zone to face a stronger than ever version of the Void. And even after the Void crippled him, the Hulk still considered the Sentry one of his best friends.

Whenever the Sentry needs help the Hulk is pretty much the first person there. I don't think Bob would turn his back on a friendship like that no matter how crazy he is. I mean, if the Void hates the Hulk most of all, wouldn't it follow that the Sentry likes the Hulk most of all.

[Expletive Deleted]

It's hard to say with Sentry. On one hand, he's Hulk's friend. On the other, he's incredibly weak-willed. If Tony makes an argument that Bob has a responsibility to protect Earth from Hulk, I think there's a decent chance Bob'll go along with it.

[AllisterH]

When Dr. Strange banished the Hulk to the crossroads of the multiverse, did anyone side against Stephen?

If not, why do you think they would side against him NOW?

[Kirayoshi]

The X-Men will all rally around Xavier.Given recent events(Dangerous, Deadly Genesis), I doubt they'd rally that much. I don't see the X-Men siding with Hulk, but Xavier is no longer all that revered among his former students, IIRC.

Besides, I suspect he'll be remaining in outer space and getting back together with Lilandra after the current Shi'ar arc in Uncanny.

I predict that the bulk of the anti-reg heroes will be offered pardons if they agree to help stop the Hulk, especially after the Hulk tears through the Initiative. Hopefully this will lead to a modification of the SHRA (which wasn't a bad idea, but its execution left much to be desired) so that registration won't necessarily lead to either forced unmasking or forced conscription into SHIELD.

Am I the only person who hears "Initiative" and hopes that the Hulk will smash Riley Finn?

[Kirayoshi]

When Dr. Strange banished the Hulk to the crossroads of the multiverse, did anyone side against Stephen?

If not, why do you think they would side against him NOW?In that arc the assembled heroes believed that Banner was truly dead and that the Hulk was now a mindless killing machine, and had already cut a wide swath through NYC. Currently Banner is still alive(albeit trapped in Hulk's body) and hadn't really done all that much damage prior to his banishment.

[Samuraixsithlord]

About the Hulk Sentry friendship, that was the childish savage hulk, not the Hulk shown Planet Hulk. I think the Hulk will invade Earth to go after the Illumanati not for vengence (not completely for revenge) but because he sees the Illumanati and the state of Super hero affairs as another form of tyranny like with the Red King.

[ivesaidway2much]

Given recent events(Dangerous, Deadly Genesis), I doubt they'd rally that much. I don't see the X-Men siding with Hulk, but Xavier is no longer all that revered among his former students, IIRC.
I think X-men pretty much have to side with Xavier. Regardless of what he's done, I don't think any of them could or would simply stand back and let the Hulk smash Charles. Because unless Decimation is undone, Xavier is essentially helpless, and the X-men, despite their anger towards him, are still heroes.

[stingerman]

I find it very unlikely that the Sentry wouldn't side with the jade giant. The Hulk would do absolutely anything for the Sentry. He's deathly afraid of the Void, but when the Sentry asked the Hulk to, he followed Bob into the Negative zone to face a stronger than ever version of the Void. And even after the Void crippled him, the Hulk still considered the Sentry one of his best friends.

Whenever the Sentry needs help the Hulk is pretty much the first person there. I don't think Bob would turn his back on a friendship like that no matter how crazy he is. I mean, if the Void hates the Hulk most of all, wouldn't it follow that the Sentry likes the Hulk most of all.

Well hopefully this version of the Hulk will think the Sentry f'd him over. Who knows? Maybe they wont even use the Sentry. Look at Civil War. blaah.

[Magnificent Bastard]

I could see the Sub-Mariner easily allying his kingdom behind the Hulk. Doom would probably be one of the many villans that would jump at the chance to help Hulk tear the heros a new one.

[vdox2]

Does anyone remember this panel from NA#24. Wonder what it means...

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9284/sentryhulkoe0.jpg

[DoctorDoom]

Does anyone remember this panel from NA#24. Wonder what it means...

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9284/sentryhulkoe0.jpg
That team-up Wouldn;t happen I think.

[CMBMOOL]

TO me, those who would side with the Hulk could be those who are closer to him and can understand the Hero within him as both human and monster. :o

[CMBMOOL]

Does anyone remember this panel from NA#24. Wonder what it means...

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9284/sentryhulkoe0.jpg


A vision of the future, perhaps. :p

[Xanrn]

You honestly think heroes are going to side with the Hulk?

Are you completely bloody insane or more naive than a person raised in a box?

Friends, FRIENDS???!?! If your mate went complete berzerk and came at Earth with an ALIEN army, who the hell would you goddam well side with?

Doom would never side with Hulk, I very much doubt Namor would either.

This is not the Hulk turning up to slap Iron Man for exiling him.

He wouldn't need a goddam army for that.

This is Hulk waging WAR on the WORLD(and the Moon).

Anyone who sides with Hulk is a traitor, a terrorist and a villian.

[PatchMadripoor]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=cons/nycc2007/marvel/worldwarhulk/INC-Hulk.jpg

Is that Namorita?

[Sean Walsh]

Lose the "it" and you're correct. ;)

(This is whatcha get for not reading AGENTS OF ATLAS)

[Pendaran]

Namorita is generally blue with tattoos these days. And exploded into tiny pieces.

[Berkey]

I hope Hulk comes with at least his queen, caiera, Korg, Brood, and Miek as long as he has those 4 it'll be very interesting plus one of the solicitations asked the question which heroes will join huk and who will fight him so he could gather an army of his own. My selections would be Namor, even though they are supoosed fight I think it'll be b/c hulk finds out he was a member, but namor explains he didn't have a part in his betrayal and joins him. If silver surfer comes rolling around it'll be hi as well being how the surfer and Namor are the only two friends of the Hulks I can think of as of now. She-Hulk is a given, although i remember way back in the Infinity crisis Hulk and Wolverine were on top the roof and Hulk looks over and tells him he likes him so maybe wolverine as well.

[Spider-Sense]

Paniccia: The story of the Hulk’s return to earth was just too big not to be reflected in the lives of other characters and therefore, other titles.

Hulk #106 will show what She-Hulk has to say about her cousin being exiled.

Hulk #107 will show what Namor has to say about his friend being exiled.

I can see Namor teaming up with Hulk.

[Berkey]

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I can see Namor teaming up with Hulk.

Yup at least namor and She-Hulk are going to have his back I'd bet

[InfinityCorp]

Does anyone remember this panel from NA#24. Wonder what it means...

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9284/sentryhulkoe0.jpg

Looks like he is ripping the Vision in Half...
Vision should know, by now, to stay away from Hulks in general.

[RonnieThunderbolts]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=cons/nycc2007/marvel/worldwarhulk/INC-Hulk.jpg

Is that Namorita?

Her mom, Namora. Recently revealed to be alive in the Agents of Atlas mini. She is an active member of the Agents of Atlas.

[JAMES.SLIMM]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=cons/nycc2007/marvel/worldwarhulk/INC-Hulk.jpg

Is that Namorita?

That's an interesting looking picture

[myslead]

didn't Namorita die in the Stamford explosion ?

[MAK15]

didn't Namorita die in the Stamford explosion ?

and she's still dead, too. the girl in the picture is Namora

[Sparda]

You know I've never heard of of Hulk ever fighting Sabertooth and I would like to see that match in the X-Men tie-in. Christ many tie-ins but I really do hope that in all those tie-in's like hero's for Hire better have a meaning and a cool role unlike what they had in Civil war.

Are you guys are on drugs on thinking that Hulk will team-up with namor? If memory serves right, he was present when Reed made the video explaining to Hulk on why he got banished. Hulk is not a forgiving kind of guy.

I want hulk to smash Wolverine......again.

I want hulk to smash Maria Hill as well as Tony Stark and Reed as well.

But what I really wanna see Hulk do out of everything is go ape shit on the people who were attacking Johny Storm by throwing that beer bottle........LIKE ULTIMATE HULK!!!!!!!!!!!! (except without the eating people part) Nah he should go ape shit on congress. I like to see on what he'll do to the president :p

Man just thinking about this event makes me happy. Can anyone tell me if JRJR get's his work out on time?

[MAK15]

You know I've never heard of of Hulk ever fighting Sabertooth and I would like to see that match in the X-Men tie-in. Christ many tie-ins but I really do hope that in all those tie-in's like hero's for Hire better have a meaning and a cool role unlike what they had in Civil war.

Are you guys are on drugs on thinking that Hulk will team-up with namor? If memory serves right, he was present when Reed made the video explaining to Hulk on why he got banished. Hulk is not a forgiving kind of guy.

I want hulk to smash Wolverine......again.


Man just thinking about this event makes me happy. Can anyone tell me if JRJR get's his work out on time?

Yeah, Im hopping the X-Men send sabretooth out on the Hulk.
also, namor wasnt in the video explaining why the illuminati shot the hulk into space. He actually started fighting Iron Man after they voted, and then said he'd leave the team after that.
and since Doc Strange is a part of the New Avengers now, we have two chances that WOlverine will fight the hulk to protect a team mate.
And yes, since Maria hill did nudge tony into blasting hulk into space, she should get hers.
Im just wondering how Nick fury's gonna handle this?

[Wild Card13]

Well, Black Bolt, Strange, Reed, and Tony all voted to shoot the Hulk into space, so they're obviously at the top of his list. Of those, the one that would be the most screwed in a fight with the Hulk would be Reed, since Tony has his Hulkbuster armor and the other two are obviously powerful in their own way. Xavier was gone and so didn't vote, and Namor voted against and left. I predict the X-Men will stand against the Hulk, alongside the many factions of Avengers. I also think Nick Fury will stand against the Hulk's forces, in the interests of mankind's safety.

The two biggest allies the Hulk will have are pretty powerful ones. The first is Namor, obviously. The second one that I foresee is a bit of a dark horse: Doctor Doom. In some issue of BP, he expressed honest fear at the prospect of the Hulk coming back, and I could see Doom taking advantage of the situation by offering his alliance. Hulk, hardened from his days on Sakaar, would probably accept Doom's aid, too.

[Karl H]

Oh good, it looks like Angel's one of Hulk's allies... That means the image in my mind of Hulk smashing puny bird-man isn't gonna happen... boo.

[AuroraNstar]

What issues will have this team up be? I love Herc, and Angel, and can't wait to see this team up with Hulk!
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[david r]

Has anyone seen the list of crossover books? There are like 25 different books. Does anyone here truly believe there is enough story to warrant so many crossovers?

Doesn't anyone feel like Marvel is just fleecing the readers? How can Hulk returning to Earth and another "Hulk vs. the Heroes" go-around warrant 25 different titles? Each at $2.99 a pop.

[ivesaidway2much]

Doesn't anyone feel like Marvel is just fleecing the readers? How can Hulk returning to Earth and another "Hulk vs. the Heroes" go-around warrant 25 different titles? Each at $2.99 a pop.I don't really know what you mean by warrant, but nobody is forcing you to buy the issues. Marvel can't fleece you unless you let them. If you don't think you'll enjoy the story just don't buy it.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

never really saw the Hulk up against a strong Telepath of Prof X levels.
But wouldn't that pretty much be all that's needed.
Prof X and Doc Samson in Hulk's brain to either calm him or unleash banner.
After that it will just be an alien invasion, nothing new to the MU. Also why wouldn't they be intercepted in space. Seems there would be enough reseources to stop them or at least slow them down.

[Wild Card13]

Ah, but this is different. First, Professor X is depowered, so that method's out.

And second, this is the HULK. Nothing stops him.

[myslead]

http://images.comicbookresources.com/cons/nycc2007/marvel/worldwarhulk/INC-Hulk.jpg

good game Illuminati, it's been fun while it lasted.

After that it will just be an alien invasion, nothing new to the MU. Also why wouldn't they be intercepted in space. Seems there would be enough reseources to stop them or at least slow them down.

the thing is, they probably won't even know that The Hulk's coming back ... until it's too late.

[Spider-Sense]

Hulk's looking really scary on this pic.

[drwho]

Why would Namora, Angel, and Hercules join forces with the Hulk? IS this tied into the planet hulk giant size that had the champions story? Just think it is bizarre. It will be interesting to see how they pull it off.

[CyberCoyote]

Hulk's bright, and he's the strongest one there is and all but I don't see him trying to take over the world, more a personal vendetta against Tony, Reed, Strange, and Blackbolt. He's as bad as they get, but he's not gonna destroy cities and slaughter innocents to get to them. He'll have a plan. That and Herc wouldn't stand with him if it was all wonton destruction and mayhem, Angel either.

In an issue of She-Hulk Tony basically claims that HE is taking full responsibility for the decision to launch him to 'Eden', but that's not gonna get Reed off the hook since he was the one that made the speech. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out, although I'll only be getting the Hulk and the books I'd get anyway, none of the other crossovers. It'd be nice if whatever plans Greenskin's got will mess with the post CW landscape significantly.

[desanth]

Wow, I'm eager for WWH after all that CW stuff.

Plus Hulk is the strongest one there is.

[Sparda]

*Post and paste*

Hey guys what tie-ins are you going to buy?

Here's my personal list:
World War Hulk (Hulk fanboy so I'd definetly get this)
Incredible Hulk (Again I'm a fanboy and this is on my pull list so gonna get it and it's the biggest player anyway)
Gamma Corps (Basically Hulkbusters so it's fun)
Invincible Iron Man (like to see him shit in his pants knowing hulks on the planet)
X-Men WWH (only cause he's fighting mutants and a chance of seeing Hulk fight sabertooth wolvies rival)
Avenger's Intiative 4 (was planning on getting the whole thing anyway but since this is part of it)


And that's pretty much it, and possibly Young Avengers and Ghost Rider only if it's a team effort fight against Hulk. Other wise no. Don't see the point of Front line or Hero's for Hire though. Hero's for hire CW tie-ins was bad as it is so I see no difference if it got the tie-in treatment for Hulk event. And why in god's name is the point of Front line? Is it really necessary to see reporter's point of view on WWH? It can't get any simpler than Hulk smashing.

What tie-in's you guys getting?

[Spider-Sense]

I'm too a Hulk freak,so I'll be getting Hulk,WWH,WWH:X-Men and Gamma Corps(this book sounds like fun;great idea).

[Berkey]

Not sure but one of the pages someone said the Heroes for Hire issues deal with Miek and Brood so I'm guessing Hulk is bringing the four closest freinds back(Cairea, Korg, Miek and Brood) Not too mention the four allies hes apparently picked up(Angel, Hercules, namora and ???) and I think Namor after sorting it all out will be on his side as well with she-hulk so he's gonna have his own little army. Not to mention Hulk is going to use strategy that he has learned from his time on his planet instead of just rampaging. Hulk busters are going to have their hands full. But also in the she-hulk they are rnding up some of the toughest characters (Abomination, Wendingo next issue they are going for zazzax) so I think this will be like a mini-thunderbolts style way of defeating hulk.

[vdox2]

Hercules: After what they did to Thor, I wouln't be too surprised seeing him fight alongside his friend against S.H.I.E.L.D, especially since he was/is an anti-reg.

(The New)Scorpion: May be related to Hulk.

Namora: If Namor can't get involved(probably because he has problems of his own with the surface world) apparently she will.

Angel: Maybe this has something to do with the Decimation. An upcoming X-Factor storyline is going deal with the possibility that the government was responsible for the events of M-day.

[Syzygy]

Angel:[/B] Maybe this has something to do with the Decimation. An upcoming X-Factor storyline is going deal with the possibility that the government was responsible for the events of M-day.

But the government wasn't responsible for M-Day. Even if Warren doesn't know this, surely Cyke and Frost would tell him before letting him make a major mistake in that regard.

I can't for the life of me figure out why Angel would join forces with the Hulk against the Illuminati.

Any other conjuctures?

Peace,
Syzygy

[vdox2]

But the government wasn't responsible for M-Day.

X-Factor #18: "With Mutant Town under siege and the X-Cell having taken refuge there, X-Factor races both the clock and their own divided allegiances as they try to stave off the very real possibility of every former mutant being rounded up and imprisoned as a potential terrorist. But will they have to reveal their knowledge of M-Day's secret...and, if so, what will the fallout be? "

X-Factor #19: "The Story: X-Factor is trapped in the middle: On the one side, the population of Ex-Mutant Town is in danger of boiling over as the X-Cell, apparently re-empowered by Pietro, endeavor to rally the rank and file against X-Factor. On the other side, the government, ready to move in with everything from armies to Sentinels. Will Madrox decide to tell the truth behind M-Day...and will anyone believe him? "

This, of course, doesn't have to mean that the government was responsible for M-Day but may have had something to do with it...or then the so-called secret is about something else, perhaps even something more sinister... :)

[Syzygy]

X-Factor #18: "With Mutant Town under siege and the X-Cell having taken refuge there, X-Factor races both the clock and their own divided allegiances as they try to stave off the very real possibility of every former mutant being rounded up and imprisoned as a potential terrorist. But will they have to reveal their knowledge of M-Day's secret...and, if so, what will the fallout be? "

X-Factor #19: "The Story: X-Factor is trapped in the middle: On the one side, the population of Ex-Mutant Town is in danger of boiling over as the X-Cell, apparently re-empowered by Pietro, endeavor to rally the rank and file against X-Factor. On the other side, the government, ready to move in with everything from armies to Sentinels. Will Madrox decide to tell the truth behind M-Day...and will anyone believe him? "

I'm not sure I understand your theory.

Are you saying that Angel fears the government is going to finally exterminate mutantkind, so he allies with the Hulk against the US government?

I can see this as plausible for some characters, but not the blue-blooded Angel. As part of the true, Eastern Elite Establishment he seems too close to the government and the American power structure to do this. Look at all he stands to lose!

I would think Warren would attempt to solve the problem peaceably, the Xavier way, rather than ally with a "terrorist" Hulk.

Peace,
Syzygy

[vdox2]

Like you I see Warren as the most unlikely person of the four to ally with Hulk. But as he clearly seems to be there my theory is based on pretty weak guesses in lack of any better ideas.

Well, he could be a spy of course. But I sure hope not.

So does anyone else have theories whyd Angel fight on Hulk's side?

[Karl H]

Like you I see Warren as the most unlikely person of the four to ally with Hulk. But as he clearly seems to be there my theory is based on pretty weak guesses in lack of any better ideas.

Well, he could be a spy of course. But I sure hope not.

So does anyone else have theories whyd Angel fight on Hulk's side?

yeah he's a putz basically... and sees the hulk winning as a chance to grab more underaged booty...

alternatively, he has a tremendous amount of respect for the Sentry (see the Sentry X-men issue of the first mini). And as an 'old school' member of numerous teams such as Champions and Defenders, an independent wealth may well consider himself a man of equal standing to the Illuminati, Stark etc in terms of wealth and connections...

[General Grievous]

im with the green jaded goliath!!!!!!
Hulk smash them back to dust!

[Omega Alpha]

I'm not sure I understand your theory.

Are you saying that Angel fears the government is going to finally exterminate mutantkind, so he allies with the Hulk against the US government?

I can see this as plausible for some characters, but not the blue-blooded Angel. As part of the true, Eastern Elite Establishment he seems too close to the government and the American power structure to do this. Look at all he stands to lose!

I would think Warren would attempt to solve the problem peaceably, the Xavier way, rather than ally with a "terrorist" Hulk.

Peace,
Syzygy

Not to mention it's impossible that all his friends would knew about who caused Decimation and wouldn't tell him.

[drwho]

There was a team up story in giant size hulk with the Champions. Perhaps that is the reason Marvel is using to bring some sense to having them team up.

[Euchre0]

I've wondered this all through Planet Hulk thus far: what is the state of Banner? I know he is certainly furious with Iron Man and the Illuminati, but it seems a bit sketchy as to what, if any, influence he is having on the Hulk. It makes sense that being on the crazy planet he'd give way to Hulk as the dominant influence, but exactly who is attacking Earth? Hulk? Banner and Hulk in agreement for once?

also, can the two change at will now? it seems that hulk voluntarily changed to banner to reveal "all of himself" to his new "queen."

so, what's the status of the hulk/banner change stuff?

[Darkwave]

There was a team up story in giant size hulk with the Champions. Perhaps that is the reason Marvel is using to bring some sense to having them team up.

Bingo.

Giant Size Hulk, which came out last year, shows the Champions (including Warren and Hercules) getting into a fight with the Hulk (they attack him unprovoked, on the assumption that he's on a destructive rampage) only to discover that they were preventing the Hulk from getting Jennifer Walters to the hospital to have a life-threatening case of appendicitis treated.

All the Champions (but especially Angel and Herc) are chagrined when they discover the error. And presumably, Warren and Herc have learned not to judge the Hulk's motivations too rapidly.

[AllisterH]

X-Factor #18: "With Mutant Town under siege and the X-Cell having taken refuge there, X-Factor races both the clock and their own divided allegiances as they try to stave off the very real possibility of every former mutant being rounded up and imprisoned as a potential terrorist. But will they have to reveal their knowledge of M-Day's secret...and, if so, what will the fallout be? "

X-Factor #19: "The Story: X-Factor is trapped in the middle: On the one side, the population of Ex-Mutant Town is in danger of boiling over as the X-Cell, apparently re-empowered by Pietro, endeavor to rally the rank and file against X-Factor. On the other side, the government, ready to move in with everything from armies to Sentinels. Will Madrox decide to tell the truth behind M-Day...and will anyone believe him? "

This, of course, doesn't have to mean that the government was responsible for M-Day but may have had something to do with it...or then the so-called secret is about something else, perhaps even something more sinister... :)


The reason why Madrox might be conflicted is that the "government is a nebulous face". Basically, its easy enough to have the former mutants attack the government because, let's face it. It is something many in the government might do and the fact that the government hasn't done anything to correct the problem makes it doubly worse.

The problem with telling the truth is that it will give those angry former mutants an actual person and not just some suit. Worse yet, it would be ridiculously easy for the former mutants to accuse the X-men of doing this personally since they weren't affected (of the X-men, only two actually got depowered. Namely Jubilee and that hooker). There's something VERY suspicous about that.

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I've wondered this all through Planet Hulk thus far: what is the state of Banner? I know he is certainly furious with Iron Man and the Illuminati, but it seems a bit sketchy as to what, if any, influence he is having on the Hulk. It makes sense that being on the crazy planet he'd give way to Hulk as the dominant influence, but exactly who is attacking Earth? Hulk? Banner and Hulk in agreement for once?

also, can the two change at will now? it seems that hulk voluntarily changed to banner to reveal "all of himself" to his new "queen."

so, what's the status of the hulk/banner change stuff?It's in GIANT-SIZE HULK.

Bruce was fine with the idea of exiling himself into space (Hulk is too dangerous for Earth). And he's fine with the situation as it stands now on Sakaar (it's a place where Hulk is free to be himself). So they have reached a truce, of sorts.

It's kind of doubtful that he'll be fine with invading Earth, though.

[CMBMOOL]

A full info on Giant Size Hulk #1, for those who are confused on the issue: http://www.leaderslair.com/noexcuses/giantsizehulk01.html

[Berkey]

Is it true she Hulk is not supposed to have a big part in this event I mean it looks like it b/c there are no tie-ins with her