Are the Freedom Fighters Part of the DC Universe?

[Sandy Hausler]

There are spoilers in here, so be warned.















While there are some links between FF and the DC Universe (Ray Terrill showing up, reference to the old FF being killed in Infinite Crisis, references to the Bludhaven book), what's going on in Freedom Fighters seems divorced from the rest of the Marvel Universe.

The President is a robot trying to turn all American into zombies that he controls. I assume that includes the heroes.

Although the FF has been called terrorists, I see no reaction from the rest of the hero community. Can you imagine a group of super terrorists and the the JLA not getting involved? (Though I guess the president could have told them to back off and let the government "heroes" handle things. But Batman would never leave it at that.)

Also, I'm still confused by how there could be a new group of FF members, with similar costumes and powers, right after the old crew (with a couple of exceptions) has been killed off. And, not that this is a book deal, but what happened to Rod Reilly, the original Firebrand, who was a member of the team in the 70s, when they last had their own book?

I am glad to see Ray Terrill back in the group. Since he had not been killed, it made little sense to have a new guy with his dad' costume and powers appearing in the group. And I'm glad Stan turned out to be a creep.

And I'm surprised that there has not been more talk about this book in this forum. Is it headed for cancellation?

Sandy Hausler

[Karl O'Neill]

it's a cool story and it is part of the dcu, you see batman and others in the story also.

[Xanrn]

How is people always miss the fact that books are a Mini.

FF is a 8 issue mini, so no its not headed for cancellation.

[Sandy Hausler]

How is people always miss the fact that books are a Mini.

FF is a 8 issue mini, so no its not headed for cancellation.

Sorry, I didn't realize that the book was a mini. But, of course, that does not explain why there's been little talk about it.

Sandy Hausler

[Joe Acro]

Sorry, I didn't realize that the book was a mini. But, of course, that does not explain why there's been little talk about it.

Sandy HauslerI think there was a thread about ever issue through #6. I don't know why there hasn't been talk of #7, especially with Ray returning and the general love of the title by those who are reading it (a generalization, to be sure).

[Karl O'Neill]

it's a great title, we should start an appreciation thread on this?????

The f in freedom fighters doesnt stand for france

[Bat-Mite]

what's going on in Freedom Fighters seems divorced from the rest of the Marvel Universe.

Well... that sounds entirely normal to me.

But seriously, if we are going to declare every book where something big happens that should get the attention of other characters but doesn't, then we would soon run out of DCU books. There is an issue of Kazar where New York becomes a jungle, and that is something that should get the attention of everybody in the Marvel U, but it doesn't. In Our World at War a big baddie tries to destroy the universe, or the galaxy or something, and the Spectre, who should be keeping an eye out for these kind of things, fails to show up. It just happens.

[Sandy Hausler]

Well... that sounds entirely normal to me.

But seriously, if we are going to declare every book where something big happens that should get the attention of other characters but doesn't, then we would soon run out of DCU books. There is an issue of Kazar where New York becomes a jungle, and that is something that should get the attention of everybody in the Marvel U, but it doesn't. In Our World at War a big baddie tries to destroy the universe, or the galaxy or something, and the Spectre, who should be keeping an eye out for these kind of things, fails to show up. It just happens.


Oops. Obviously I meant the DC Universe. Thanks for catching my gaffe.

Sandy Hausler

[Tony Starkz]

this book rocks socks

[Ontir]

They're a part of the DCU, which exact Earth they're on, I'm not certain of, at the moment.

[Jack Zodiac]

I have a feeling that a few of the books the spun out of Brave New World could possibily be taking place on alternate Earths, now that the big reveal for 52 has been leaked. It's possible Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters are all back on Earth-X again, but SHADE, Father Time, and The Bride are all characters that were created on Earth-1. And Battle for Blüdhaven was the prologue for Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters, and it prominently featured Green Lantern, Captain Atom, and the Teen Titans.

I think it does take place on New Earth, but the effects of the mini-series aren't relevant to other DC titles and the rest of Earth's heroes aren't being seen because it would stifle the already long-shot group of heroes the writers are trying to sell to us.