The Only Cable & Deadpool thread

[Sentinel K]

These threads seem to be in vogue at the moment so i thought I'd start one for the 10 Cable & Deadpool fans on the board, and maybe we can get some more folk reading this great book.

To start us off here are some potential talking points.

*What has been your favourite issue/arc?

*What do you want to see happening in future issues?


Or just go nuts.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I believe i read part of the first arc of Cable and Deadpool...there were blue people or something.

As i wasnt feeling the story and had strained myself fiscally i dropped the book. However i was a huge fan of Agent X and the Simone issues of Deadpool. Should i give this book another go? If so, starting where?

[Brian M.]

Burnt Offering easily is the best arc for me.

As for the future it's tough to tell. Obviously Cable is going to keep trying to make the world a utopia or atleast show them how it could be. I think Deadpool going legit will be interesting but knowing the character he'll do something to screw it up.

I don't really know exactly b/c things have changed since Cable is now part of Carey's team too.

I like the Irene/Cable/Domino plot...always nice to have two big breasted ladies after your ... yea.

[Nyssane]

About time C&D get their own thread! :D

Burnt Offering has to be my favorite, too, but I severely love Bosom Buddies (maybe because I'm such a huge fan of the B.A.D. Girls, and their interaction with all the other characters was awesome). And the appearances by the GLA and Anaconda? All of my favorite characters seem to make guest appearances in this book. I think Fabian's trying to tell me something.

Yes, I will marry you!

[Sentinel K]

I believe i read part of the first arc of Cable and Deadpool...there were blue people or something.

As i wasnt feeling the story and had strained myself fiscally i dropped the book. However i was a huge fan of Agent X and the Simone issues of Deadpool. Should i give this book another go? If so, starting where?

I liked the first arc but I know it didn't do much for a lot of people.

It had some great Brookes art before Zircher came on board and finished it off.

I would DEFINITELY recommend the second trade (Vol 1-5 have just been reprinted) 'The Burnt Offering'. When of the best arcs in any X book in recent years IMO.

If you don't want to go so far back then i guess Civil War is a decent place to start although you will have missed out on a lot of great stuff.

[Brian M.]

While Burnt Offering was my favorite arc, #25 was my favorite issue.

Cable/Captain America sences were great.

[Sentinel K]

While Burnt Offering was my favorite arc, #25 was my favorite issue.

Cable/Captain America sences were great.

I loved that issue too. Knowing that Cap's shield becomes such an important icon in Cables time (the future) was a cool revelation.

This is presumably why Bachalo draws it on Cable's uniform in X-Men.

I almost wanted Cap to stay on Providence at the end of that issue, when Cap considers it.

[Brian M.]

I loved that issue too. Knowing that Cap's shield becomes such an important icon in Cables time (the future) was a cool revelation.

This is presumably why Bachalo draws it on Cable's uniform in X-Men.

I almost wanted Cap to stay on Providence at the end of that issue, when Cap considers it.

Yea and while some may say Cable came off as pompous, I don't see it that way. You can tell he respects Cap but Cable's seen a lot more in his lifetime then Cap has it comes across as he's just trying to get the big picture across.

[Omega Alpha]

While Burnt Offering was my favorite arc, #25 was my favorite issue.

Cable/Captain America sences were great.

I agree 100%.

As for the future, i think that Cable is moving more and more towards becoming an antagonist or villain of the X-men, like Magneto, specially if the next crossover of the X-men goes the way it seems (nothing has been confirmed, but i think that Cable might work with Sinister). Deadpool seems to be moving more to be a true superhero, since he's regretting what he has done in the past, but he'll probably screw up things sometime.

[Sentinel K]

I agree 100%.

As for the future, i think that Cable is moving more and more towards becoming an antagonist or villain of the X-men, like Magneto, specially if the next crossover of the X-men goes the way it seems (nothing has been confirmed, but i think that Cable might work with Sinister). Deadpool seems to be moving more to be a true superhero, since he's regretting what he has done in the past, but he'll probably screw up things sometime.

I don't think he'll ever be a villain, but I think his motivations and vision for the future will definitely clash with the X-men as it already has. He may become a kind of 'Magneto lite'. Quite a grey character. Not evil, but believing that what he is doing is right and just.

He has the best of intentions, but as Domino pointed out, he always manages to screw it up.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

About time C&D get their own thread! :D

Burnt Offering has to be my favorite, too, but I severely love Bosom Buddies (maybe because I'm such a huge fan of the B.A.D. Girls, and their interaction with all the other characters was awesome). And the appearances by the GLA and Anaconda? All of my favorite characters seem to make guest appearances in this book. I think Fabian's trying to tell me something.

Yes, I will marry you!

The great lake avengers made an appearance? Sweet. The GLA kick ass. I consider Dan Slotts GLA mini to be superior to Watchmen, so you know im a fan

[Brian M.]

The great lake avengers made an appearance? Sweet. The GLA kick ass. I consider Dan Slotts GLA mini to be superior to Watchmen, so you know im a fan

Yea your Squirrel Girl love is kinda blinding...hopefully not too much though :)

[Sentinel K]

The great lake avengers made an appearance? Sweet. The GLA kick ass. I consider Dan Slotts GLA mini to be superior to Watchmen, so you know im a fan

They were in the first Civil War issue. #30.

A great issue. As usual.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

They were in the first Civil War issue. #30.

A great issue. As usual.

I would like them to be Anti-reg. But honestly i'd just expect them to latch onto the side that has the most popular heroes

[ocelotrevs]

I really like the story, but I don't like how Cable is picking on Deadpool. And Cable being a tit.

[MatthewDiCarlo]

Burnt Offering's the best Marvel arc of 2004, in my mind.

Second best issue is the one where Cable and Wade are in a bar.

It bugs me to no end when people won't try the book because they can't look past what Cable was in 1992. He's one of the most interesting characters Marvel has.

[Sentinel K]

I would like them to be Anti-reg. But honestly i'd just expect them to latch onto the side that has the most popular heroes

Read it. Get hooked. Keep reading.

[Sentinel K]

Burnt Offering's the best Marvel arc of 2004, in my mind.

Second best issue is the one where Cable and Wade are in a bar.

It bugs me to no end when people won't try the book because they can't look past what Cable was in 1992. He's one of the most interesting characters Marvel has.

YES!

This is what I keep telling people!

Forget Liefeld Cable of the early 90's! This Cable is actually INTERESTING!

[Brian M.]

YES!

This is what I keep telling people!

Forget Liefeld Cable of the early 90's! This Cable is actually INTERESTING!

The whole thing with Domino is now interesting...before their hook up, when she doubted him, good stuff.

Fabian has a nack for dialogue and he really is one of the few writers that make me actually feel for the characters. When she is telling Nate that he always screw it up, you could actually feel the disappointment Cable had with her statement. You knew Dom wanted to believe but she knew Cable and knew it wouldn't work. Good stuff all around.

[Deadpooligan]

This is my favorite ongoing right now, and it's not just because Deadpool is my favorite character ever.

It's funny, dramatic, actiony, and just a great book to look forward to monthly.

There are times when I like the way the characters interact and have polar views on a subject, but some parts with Cable kind of drag now.

Don't get me wrong, I loved If Looks Could Kill and especially The Burnt Offering, but Cable seems to have lost a key part of his character after his depowering. Fabes made him a global threat arguably rivaling that of Pre-Morrison Magneto, but now he lacks any of his mutant abilities.

(I'm confused as to why he's in Carey's X-Men now.)

It would seem Deadpool could carry this book alone. I'm kind of surprised his solo ended at 69 while Cable's reached just above 100...

[AMrBean]

It's funny because this really is my favorite title of all time, but I can't pick out just one favorite arc. To me, they all blend into one great series.

I remember, I didn't get this series in trades right away, even though Cable is my favorite. Then, later on I needed to pick up either the first or second trade and it was sold out everywhere. I ended up paying alot of money for it on eBay. Totally worth it though.

[Mineralogy]

Sorry, but I'll only post in the official Cable & Deadpool thread. I'm high society.

...oh, alright, fine:

Ahhhh! Cable & Deadpool! This book is great. I was so excited when it was first announced because I got back into comics just in time to miss both Cable and Deadpool's solo series, but then *poof* they were shuffled right into a convenient 2-in-1 book.

I have to say that "If Looks Could Kill" (the first arc) really didn't grab me. It was terribly fun and very amusing, but the whole thing seemed completely pointless. "The Burnt Offering" totally took things off the ground and I was really starting to warm up to it. But the deal was officially sealed after the scene in "Thirty Pieces" (3rd arc) where the Six Pack gets sucked into Cable's brain and has a surrealistic cartoon tea party. Especially the Apocalypse-teapot.

Further highlights include "Enema of the State" (which utterly failed as a parody, but was really fun anyway), especially the House of M scenes with Mr. Sinister, the bar issue, the Captain America issue, and the Great Lakes Champions. I strongly encourage anyone who hasn't to check out the trades! A bizarre sense of humor helps, though.

[Cable will be] Quite a grey character.I get it! :p

[Faded]

Only because of word of mouth, I've kinduv always wanted to get into this series.

Can you give me one issue of the run that you think would get me hooked?

[Mineralogy]

Only because of word of mouth, I've kinduv always wanted to get into this series.

Can you give me one issue of the run that you think would get me hooked?In the interest of directly disobeying your request, I suggest the volume 2 trade, The Burnt Offering. It's really the definitive arc for this book and sets the tone extremely well, offering equal tastes of the Cable and the Deadpool "sides" of the series. You will definitely be hooked if you start there.

But if I have to suggest exactly one issue, to get Faded, specifically, hooked, I would say... #17, the House of M tie-in. It really has nothing to do with the rest of the book, but it features Mr. Sinister as a lonely and fussy homemaker in his now-empty orphanage, and Cable in a diaper. Plus, the shocking resolution of the "Deadpool really, really has to pee" subplot, which had been keeping us in dramatic tension since issue 15! (The Cable portions of this series offer genuinely interesting drama, but it's the jockstrap-insane Deadpool humor that keeps us all coming back. So starting with a humorous issue is a good step toward hookage.)

... But really, just buy The Burnt Offering. If, by some unbelievable Wanda Maximoff reality shift, you aren't completely satisfied, I will let you punch me in the gut at a comics con.

[Sentinel K]

I too was gonna suggest 'The Burnt Offering' trade. As usual.

It's just awesome. If this had been written 10 years ago it probably would have been a crossover. It's a pretty far-reaching story and it's a shame it never got mentioned anywhere else.

As far as single issues go, Mineralogy has given a great issue. The peeing thing is awesome. Definitely an issue that showcases the funny.

However, I'm going to suggest a more thought provoking issue (which barely features Deadpool). It's also slightly more recent so you might have a better chance of tracking it down.

#25 'Living legends'

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/cabledeadpool/cabledeadpool25.jpg

Nick Fury sends Captain America to infiltrate Cable's island haven of Providence because after recent events he is suspicious of Cable and thinks he might have WoMD's.

Some great dialogue, some great action and it's all done in one so there is no cliff-hanger as such.



But yeah... I urge you to buy 'The Burnt Offering' trade as it is awesome.

I too will take a punch if you don't like it. You can mail it to me.

[Niro]

I only got into this comic through the civil war tie-in issues, and after seeing how funny deadpool is, i decided to stick with it, and im glad i did :D

o yea and wat happened with the cable of 1992?

[Scavenger]

YES!

This is what I keep telling people!

Forget Liefeld Cable of the early 90's! This Cable is actually INTERESTING!


Problem is..we keep saying this...and Marvel keeps putting Liefeld covers on the book!:confused:

[Editor]

Problem is..we keep saying this...and Marvel keeps putting Liefeld covers on the book!:confused:

Not STRICTLY true.

He only did the covers to #1-4 and #33.

5 out of 35 ain't bad.

[AMrBean]

The annoying thing about comics is:

My real first exposure to Deadpool was though this comic. Now, I would LOVE to read his solo series, but I can't. It's not published, it's rarely on eBay and never affordable when it is.

I would one day love to see all comics constantly published in some form.

[Arrjay]

I've only read the first three trades and the fourth one is waiting for me at the comic book store.

Let me just say that this is easily my favorite comic-book.

[Arrjay]

What has been your favourite issue/arc

Well, my favorite arc thus far is Enema Of The State which just happens to be the most recent one I've read. Deadpool dimension hopping with Cannonball and Siryn in search of Cable. Incredibly cool.

What do you want to see happening in future issues?

Deadpool gets molested by UTVol8102 who is disguised as Emma Frost's left breast.

I'd definitely fork out good American cash for that.

Or just go nuts.

*Goes nuts.*

[Arrjay]

Knowing that Cap's shield becomes such an important icon in Cables time (the future) was a cool revelation.

This is presumably why Bachalo draws it on Cable's uniform in X-Men.

I didn't know that.

Cool!

[Arrjay]

It bugs me to no end when people won't try the book because they can't look past what Cable was in 1992. He's one of the most interesting characters Marvel has.

Amen to that.

I get dissed all the time 'cause I like Cable and Bishop.

*Cries.*

*Starts emo band.*

[Faded]

I picked up issue 17! I haven't read it yet but whether I like it or not, I think I'll pick up the Burnt Offering trade to give this title a fair shake.

Thanks for the advice guys!

[Brian M.]

I picked up issue 17! I haven't read it yet but whether I like it or not, I think I'll pick up the Burnt Offering trade to give this title a fair shake.

Thanks for the advice guys!

You will love Burnt Offering.

Also your avatar...just show me the buttons...

[Brian M.]

Well, my favorite arc thus far is Enema Of The State which just happens to be the most recent one I've read. Deadpool dimension hopping with Cannonball and Siryn in search of Cable. Incredibly cool.



Deadpool gets molested by UTVol8102 who is disguised as Emma Frost's left breast.

I'd definitely fork out good American cash for that.



*Goes nuts.*


Shut up Hippie!!!

[Sentinel K]

I picked up issue 17! I haven't read it yet but whether I like it or not, I think I'll pick up the Burnt Offering trade to give this title a fair shake.

Thanks for the advice guys!

Tell us if you like it!

If you don't... don't bother. :)

[Brian M.]

I too was gonna suggest 'The Burnt Offering' trade. As usual.

It's just awesome. If this had been written 10 years ago it probably would have been a crossover. It's a pretty far-reaching story and it's a shame it never got mentioned anywhere else.

As far as single issues go, Mineralogy has given a great issue. The peeing thing is awesome. Definitely an issue that showcases the funny.

However, I'm going to suggest a more thought provoking issue (which barely features Deadpool). It's also slightly more recent so you might have a better chance of tracking it down.

#25 'Living legends'

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/cabledeadpool/cabledeadpool25.jpg

Nick Fury sends Captain America to infiltrate Cable's island haven of Providence because after recent events he is suspicious of Cable and thinks he might have WoMD's.

Some great dialogue, some great action and it's all done in one so there is no cliff-hanger as such.



But yeah... I urge you to buy 'The Burnt Offering' trade as it is awesome.

I too will take a punch if you don't like it. You can mail it to me.


I concur. If it's 1 issue, it's this issue Faded.

[caney]

I ordered The Burnt Offering TPB last week. I read and enjoyed the first TPB a couple weeks ago and after reading this thread, I can't wait for the second. I felt like checking this title out after seeing some of Cable in Carey's X-Men.

[Trey]

I ordered The Burnt Offering TPB last week. I read and enjoyed the first TPB a couple weeks ago and after reading this thread, I can't wait for the second. I felt like checking this title out after seeing some of Cable in Carey's X-Men.


V1 and 2 are out of print. Where did you order it from? Burnt Offering is going for more than 30 bucks in some places.

I swear they were supposed to reprint 1 and 2 in Jan??:confused:


My only gripe is Reilly brown, his stuff is OK, Average art. I would drool for a more kickass Artist - Jim Lee is my dream artist, but that aint gonna happen.

[caney]

V1 and 2 are out of print. Where did you order it from? Burnt Offering is going for more than 30 bucks in some places.

I swear they were supposed to reprint 1 and 2 in Jan??:confused:


My only gripe is Reilly brown, his stuff is OK, Average art. I would drool for a more kickass Artist - Jim Lee is my dream artist, but that aint gonna happen.

I think they did reprint them. I got the first one from my LCS and the second one from http://www.livewireworld.com/

[Arrjay]

Shut up Hippie!!!

C'mon man.

You know you'd love to exist as one of Emma Frost's titties.

[Brian M.]

C'mon man.

You know you'd love to exist as one of Emma Frost's titties.

ON not AS, get it right.

[Karl H]

I picked up issue 17! I haven't read it yet but whether I like it or not, I think I'll pick up the Burnt Offering trade to give this title a fair shake.

Thanks for the advice guys!

Well if you can find it - good luck! It's going for £57 (which I reckon is at least$100 in US money) on Amazon.co.uk!

[Sentinel K]

Well if you can find it - good luck! It's going for £57 (which I reckon is at least$100 in US money) on Amazon.co.uk!

I think they did reprint them. I got the first one from my LCS and the second one from http://www.livewireworld.com/

There's your answer! Go buy it now.

[Karl H]

There's your answer! Go buy it now.

Ordered thanks to the good people at Livewire world...

This had better be good!!!!

[cable guy]

Burnt offering was my favorite story arc so far.

And what do i want to see?... I want to see Cable and his know ALL before it happens, turn the tables, totally in control at all times, look to be fooled and not really fooled; backfire on him big time.

He's my favorite character, but it isn't fun when you always win and have no chance to lose. Ever.

[Brian M.]

It feels like Fabian is getting to let that happen to Cable. He's shown that's he is always prepared, always ready, knows all...but I just think that soon it'll happen where he will be caught completely off guard.

[Sentinel K]

It feels like Fabian is getting to let that happen to Cable. He's shown that's he is always prepared, always ready, knows all...but I just think that soon it'll happen where he will be caught completely off guard.

Like Silver Surfer all over again.

[Arrjay]

Like Silver Surfer all over again.

That was so cool.

I totally support more appearances of that character in Cable & Deadpool.

[Sentinel K]

Don't waste your time reading this post.

Read Cable & Deadpool instead.

Tell your friends.

[Brian M.]

Don't waste your time reading this post.

Read Cable & Deadpool instead.

Tell your friends.

Damm I read the post.

[Sentinel K]

Damm I read the post.

Thats cool. You already read it.

Plus, by posting the above you have bumpeed the thread to the top, thereby making it appear that the thread is more active than it actually is.

[Hi-Fi]

This thread is lame.

[Nyssane]

They should have Squirrel Girl join the pair, just because.

[Brian M.]

This thread is lame.

They should have Squirrel Girl join the pair, just because.


Both of you should have your free speech recinded.

[xakko]

Burnt Offering is an incredible storyline. Highly recommended.

jus' don't be hating on Squirrel Girl, Brian... you just don't get the awe-inspriring glory that is Doreen.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Both of you should have your free speech recinded.

Monkey Joe has bigger nuts than you

there


I said it

[Brian M.]

Burnt Offering is an incredible storyline. Highly recommended.

jus' don't be hating on Squirrel Girl, Brian... you just don't get the awe-inspriring glory that is Doreen.

Oh no I do, she's so strong, she can take down anyone.

[xakko]

Oh no I do, she's so strong, she can take down anyone.

nutty pluck, man, the most powerful ability in the Marvel Universe.

[Nyssane]

nutty pluck, man, the most powerful ability in the Marvel Universe.

Sing it, sister. I want to see Squirrel Girl battle Apocalypse and his Four Horsemen.

And that quote made me love Dum Dum Dugan way more than I have ever would've thought I'd love a fat, middle-aged man with a pornstache.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Poccy is going to need 400 horsemen before he can even think of attacking Squirrel Girl.

[xakko]

Poccy is going to need 400 horsemen before he can even think of attacking Squirrel Girl.

i don't get it... why would Poccy even attack her? she has shown herself to be one of the Strong - the strongest in fact.

unless it's out of jealousy.

[cable guy]

This thread is lame.

Keep posting on it though.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Its all in his pathology. He knows Squirrel Girl is stronger than him and thus evolutionarily better. So he has to throw himself at her so she can beat him, but its like, she wont kill him. So he just gets pissed off.

Thats a Cable and Deadpool arc right there. They have to convince Squirrel Girl to kill Poccy.

[xakko]

Its all in his pathology. He knows Squirrel Girl is stronger than him and thus evolutionarily better. So he has to throw himself at her so she can beat him, but its like, she wont kill him. So he just gets pissed off.

Thats a Cable and Deadpool arc right there. They have to convince Squirrel Girl to kill Poccy.

i'd buy that...

but then i'd buy just about anything Squirrel Girl.

except that I Heart Marvel stuff... haven't picked that up yet.

[CMBMOOL]

Deadpool's a riot that makes me laugh so, while Cable is just a jerk with a plan. :D

I love the series and is hooked on as to the Busom Buddies arc. :o

[Hi-Fi]

Keep posting on it though.

Aw, I was just trying to annoy Pete. I don't really have anything against this book. :)


Needs more Rogue, though.

[Brian M.]

Aw, I was just trying to annoy Pete. I don't really have anything against this book. :)


Needs more Rogue, though.

Yea the book Cable and Deadpool needs more Rogue...

[Sparda]

I'd just converted to becoming a Cable and Deadpool fan. Only trade I have is burnt offering and love it. I gotta get the rest of the trades up to volume 6 when it comes out and start collecting issue by issue as of 37.

What I'd like to see in the future is Cable taking on Surfer again and this time, Cable does'nt have the handicap of having to lift his former utopia, and his body going all out in handling the power. By god with those things, Cable would go a loooong time against surfer and might win if he goes fighting frenzy (hell if spidey beat firelord in his frenzy than anythings possible).

I think Cable should be younger again, but not too young but not too old either (like around 30).

[Nyssane]

i'd buy that...

but then i'd buy just about anything Squirrel Girl.

except that I Heart Marvel stuff... haven't picked that up yet.

Haha, you and Brian make this the best thread ever.

And the I Heart Marvel with Squirrel Girl was awesome! I FELT HER PAIN, her LONGING for Speedball! Although I think Wolverine should eventually add Squirrel Girl to his scorecard, Lord knows there isn't a female character out there that hasn't been boned by him.

[Brian M.]

Haha, you and Brian make this the best thread ever.

And the I Heart Marvel with Squirrel Girl was awesome! I FELT HER PAIN, her LONGING for Speedball! Although I think Wolverine should eventually add Squirrel Girl to his scorecard, Lord knows there isn't a female character out there that hasn't been boned by him.

I would like to see Squirrel Girl and Deadpool fight. SG starts to win and just then Cable throws her into the Sun.

Pain the ass b!@#$.

[Nyssane]

Well, Squirrel Girl already kicked Deadpool's ass in issue #30. :D

[Mineralogy]

And the I Heart Marvel with Squirrel Girl was awesome! I FELT HER PAIN, her LONGING for Speedball!Speaking of which, I'd really like to see Penance run into Squirrel Girl at the supermarket, with the end result being Squirrel Girl redesigning her costume into Squirrel Dominatrix and forming a Thunderbolts/GLC spin-off book about their torrid exploits. Cue "Squirrel with a Whip," homage plot based on 1964 Douglas Heyes film Kitten with a Whip.

...oh, and, uh, Cable and Deadpool... yeah, rock it Wade, woo.

[xakko]

Haha, you and Brian make this the best thread ever.

And the I Heart Marvel with Squirrel Girl was awesome! I FELT HER PAIN, her LONGING for Speedball! Although I think Wolverine should eventually add Squirrel Girl to his scorecard, Lord knows there isn't a female character out there that hasn't been boned by him.
i'll have to pick that up.

i don't get Brian's hatred of her, tho'.

Wolvie and Doreen? hrmmm... i almost think she may be related, what with her knuckle spike... and her hair is a little not-red for him

There's also probably a cross-species hybridization joke here...

[Mineralogy]

Ooh, their daughter could be called Squirlverine!

[cable guy]

Aw, I was just trying to annoy Pete. I don't really have anything against this book. :)


Needs more Rogue, though.

Oh I know. I just like any posts that bump this thread up. Not alot of hardcore fans of C/D here.

[Sentinel K]

I was looking through some of the early issues (Burnt Offering/30 Pieces) and i'd forgotten just how great the artwork was.

Sooo good. I'm surprised Zircher isn't a bigger name than he is.

Although I think it's fair to say that by issue #24 his work wasn't as strong as it had been, but i'd still take THAT Zircher over Johnson or Brown.

I'm kind of 50/50 about Brown. Some of his panels look really nice, some look not great and the majority are just kinda average.

I'd love to see someone fairly high profile on this book to give it a readership lift. Ain't gonna happen though.

[Brian M.]

Oh yea Zircher's art was great. I miss him drawing the series. Hopefully soon he'll be back as the artist.

[Sentinel K]

People haven't been talking about Cable & Deadpool for more than 24 hours.

What's wrong with you people?

[Brian M.]

All those people who were told to read Burnt Offering...what'd ya think?

[Sentinel K]

All those people who were told to read Burnt Offering...what'd ya think?

They're probably re-reading it for the 4th time 'cos it's so awesome.

[Karl H]

All those people who were told to read Burnt Offering...what'd ya think?

I'll let you know when it's arrived... Am very excited about this though...

[killerbass]

All those people who were told to read Burnt Offering...what'd ya think?

Good, good stuff -- especially Cable's fight with the Silver Surfer...

(And man, that issue is hard to find...)

--Tom

[caney]

All those people who were told to read Burnt Offering...what'd ya think?

I've read the first 3 issues, but then life intervened and I had to put it down just as Silver Surfer showed up!!!!!! (how cool!!) I've liked it so far. I'll post more thoughts when I get a chance to finish it.

[Nyssane]

I've read the first 3 issues, but then life intervened and I had to put it down just as Silver Surfer showed up!!!!!! (how cool!!) I've liked it so far. I'll post more thoughts when I get a chance to finish it.

Isn't Anaconda the best? :) I love the way Zircher draws her, she's actually quite smexy.

[caney]

Isn't Anaconda the best? :) I love the way Zircher draws her, she's actually quite smexy.

She works it for the money. Gotta admire that. ;)

[Nyssane]

She works it for the money. Gotta admire that. ;)

Straight up, foo. And in later issues of C&D, Anaconda's got buns, hon. Like, majorly. Baby got BACK.

The Cat was really cool in the Burnt Offering, too. I remember that was like the first time I'd heard of him. But he's HOT.

[Hi-Fi]

I liked the Cyclops/Cable moment on that arc. It really is the best C&D arc. The first one being boring as hell.

[Sentinel K]

I liked the Cyclops/Cable moment on that arc. It really is the best C&D arc. The first one being boring as hell.

I disagree.

I think it was actually quite an interesting look at race and individualism.

[Hi-Fi]

I disagree.

I think it was actually quite an interesting look at race and individualism.

Not that good a look for me. Not interesting enough. Not thought-provocative enough. And Deadpool jokes seemed forced.

The second arc was really excellent. The Cable interview by Irene Merryweather, the X-Men/Deadpool interaction, the fight at the end, and all in just 4 parts. Didn't drag like the first arc did for me.

[Brian M.]

Yea it's been nice that Fabian hasn't had any of the usual 6 part arcs, except the first arc really. His stories pace very well.

[Sentinel K]

Not that good a look for me. Not interesting enough. Not thought-provocative enough. And Deadpool jokes seemed forced.

The second arc was really excellent. The Cable interview by Irene Merryweather, the X-Men/Deadpool interaction, the fight at the end, and all in just 4 parts. Didn't drag like the first arc did for me.

It IS odd how there seemd like less story in the first arc yet there were more issues. Need to read it again perhaps. But I just thought it was a neat idea.

Would racism disappear if everyone looked the same?

Still, Brookes rocked on those first 2 issues!

[Faded]

I read issue 17 and it rocked! I think I want to get issue 18 and whatever else to finish the arc before I get to reading the Burnt Offering trade (which I have to schedule in between reading District X/Mutopia X for the first time).

[Karl H]

I read issue 17 and it rocked! I think I want to get issue 18 and whatever else to finish the arc before I get to reading the Burnt Offering trade (which I have to schedule in between reading District X/Mutopia X for the first time).

Make it easier for yourself - ignore District/Mutopia X, it bites...

[Sentinel K]

Not enough Cable & Deadpool talk going on.

What's wrong with you people?

[Hi-Fi]

Ok, I have one! I just finished the two-part arc where Deadpool brings Nathan back to life. I remember hearing that Cannonball and Syrin guest-star in this book. Is it in the next arc or will I have to wait?

[Sentinel K]

Ok, I have one! I just finished the two-part arc where Deadpool brings Nathan back to life. I remember hearing that Cannonball and Syrin guest-star in this book. Is it in the next arc or will I have to wait?

Siryn and Cannonball co-star with Deadpool in the arc 'Enema of the State' (#15-18. #17 being the awesome HoM 'Tie-in').

This takes place after the two part 'Murder in Paradise' arc, where Wade investigates the murder haji-bin barat.

[Hi-Fi]

Siryn and Cannonball co-star with Deadpool in the arc 'Enema of the State' (#15-18. #17 being the awesome HoM 'Tie-in').

This takes place after the two part 'Murder in Paradise' arc, where Wade investigates the murder haji-bin barat.

That means we're reaching #14 here.

Wow, 'Cable&Deadpool' is really behind here!! All the other books are already in Decimation. Anyway, thanks for the info, Peter.

[Sentinel K]

You're welcome, Victor.

[Hi-Fi]

Cry Havok!!!!

[cable guy]

Siryn and Cannonball co-star with Deadpool in the arc 'Enema of the State' (#15-18. #17 being the awesome HoM 'Tie-in').

This takes place after the two part 'Murder in Paradise' arc, where Wade investigates the murder haji-bin barat.

I believe #17 is the only issue I don't have.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Hopefully ill get my Burnt offering trade tommorows

[DjMichael691]

I LOVED all the Deadpool/X-Men interaction.That moment when Deadpool wakes up with Wolverine and Beast, clasic. And when Deadpool chose which costume HE wanted to wear, BRILLIANT. I couldn't stop giggling after that.

[caney]

OK, finally read the Burnt Offering trade. Very cool!!!!

The four issues of the Burnt Offering story were amazing. They made me into a Cable fan. Irene's interview with Cable was an awesome story-telling device. It's like one huge Cable thought bubble that lets you into his mind. His whole plan to help save the world is very touching and shows what a truly noble charcter he is. Cable had more power than anyone on the planet. He could have done almost anything, but tragically, the only thing he really wanted he couldn't do in the end. He couldn't save the future by himself.

Another thing I enjoyed about the first four issues was the inclusion of a bunch of the senior X-Men. With the X-Men having been split into multiple squads doing all different things for a long time now, it's rare to see all the major players pull together working as a single team. What was really cool was that they actually did work well together as a cohesive unit rather than all just doing their own thing. Obviously, after writing the X-Men for so long Nicieza knows them all very well.

I've never been a huge Deadpool fan, and I don't think this comic is going to change that. He's OK and has some very funny moments, but he starts to annoy me when he's on his own for too long in the book. My favorite Deadpool parts came when he was interacting with Cable. They have a great dynamic together. I thought it was sweet that he worked so hard to save Cable in the last two issues. He doesn't seem to have much of a direction when left by himself. Overall, I don't hate Deadpool, but I don't love him as a character either.

The Burnt Offering trade felt like a major Marvel/X-Men event. First four issues are pure greatness. Last two issues are good. I would recommend it to any X-Men fan.

[Brian M.]

Yea, Fabian's X-Men issues were always good stuff I thought. The plots may not have always been top notch but his characters I think were spot on.

It was nice to see all the X-Men as one unit. Fabian's handled guest stars in his book very well.

[Brian M.]

CABLE & DEADPOOL #40
Written by FABIAN NICIEZA
Penciled by REILLY BROWN
Cover by SKOTT YOUNG
"Fractured" Part 1 (of 3)
Picking up from the furious action in X-Men, an alien soul vampire called the Hecatomb is rampaging across Cable's South Pacific haven of Providence. The only way to stop this creature is for Cable to restore his telepathy and telekinesis -- but the only way to do that might be to make a deal with the Devil itself -- an alien parasite called the Mummadrai. To save his dream, will Cable sacrifice his soul?
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

So...is this a good thing? Cable getting back his TP/TK? I wonder on what level he'll get it back at.

[Karl H]

So...is this a good thing? Cable getting back his TP/TK? I won't on what level he'll get it back at.

As I've already said tho, the mention of Mummandriai reminds me of one of the worst aspects of Morrison's run... I was hoping this wouldn't happen!

[killerbass]

CABLE & DEADPOOL #40
Written by FABIAN NICIEZA
Penciled by REILLY BROWN
Cover by SKOTT YOUNG
"Fractured" Part 1 (of 3)
Picking up from the furious action in X-Men, an alien soul vampire called the Hecatomb is rampaging across Cable's South Pacific haven of Providence. The only way to stop this creature is for Cable to restore his telepathy and telekinesis -- but the only way to do that might be to make a deal with the Devil itself -- an alien parasite called the Mummadrai. To save his dream, will Cable sacrifice his soul?
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

On its face, this looks like a story with a lot of potential.

Fabian's done a great job with CDP, and I bet if doesn't get too convoluted that the story will be just fine.

I just wonder if Deadpool will only be in the story for comedic relief...

Time will tell,
Tom

[Karl H]

Grrr my trades still haven't arrived so can't contribute in a meaningfull way.... More talk about the awesomeness of this title please...

[Nyssane]

If you like the Burnt Offering, you should get Bosom Buddies, because it has sexy Serpent Society ladies, The Cat's sexy triumphant return, and sexy Iron Fist straddling sexy Luke Cage in a completely sexual way. Plus, sexy art by a very sexy Mr. Zircher.

It should be a crime for that arc to be so sexy.

[madrox1977]

I completely agree about the artwork...but wouldn't describe Mr Zircher sexy (never met him). Not that i have anything against reilly brown, its just he's not as good as previous artists.

The whole Mummadrai aspect of #40 did make me think of Morrisson's run. But i have faith in my favorite odd couple so sure it will work out fine.

to sum up things Cable & Deadpool is amazing, now if only the 1st and 2nd tpb were more readily available.

[killerbass]

to sum up things Cable & Deadpool is amazing, now if only the 1st and 2nd tpb were more readily available.

These books have both been reprinted in the past month...

Check your local comic book store!

--Tom

[killerbass]

Staz Johnson is supposedly pencilling the issue due out next Wednesday.

Is Reilly Brown still the regular guy? I was starting to dig his work -- the last issue with Taskmaster was really good...

Anyone have any inside information?

--Tom

[rwsmith]

Ugh. I really don't like Reilly Brown's art. I would prefer someone like Mark Brooks, Humberto Ramos or Tom Raney, as I think their styles would really mesh with a comedic book like this. Having said that I don't even read C/D, so it's no skin off my back if they stick with Brown.

[Phana]

Ugh. I really don't like Reilly Brown's art. I would prefer someone like Mark Brooks, Humberto Ramos or Tom Raney, as I think their styles would really mesh with a comedic book like this. Having said that I don't even read C/D, so it's no skin off my back if they stick with Brown.

Mark Brooks actually worked on the first 2 issues of Cable & Deadpool, and it looked awesome. I'd be happy to have him or Zircher back. However, I really can't stand Ramos, the hands, feet, and faces just irk me. I'd probably drop the book if he started doing the art.

The preview for #37 is out: http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/003512211.cfm

[cable guy]

Ugh. I really don't like Reilly Brown's art. I would prefer someone like Mark Brooks, Humberto Ramos or Tom Raney, as I think their styles would really mesh with a comedic book like this. Having said that I don't even read C/D, so it's no skin off my back if they stick with Brown.

I love Humberto Ramos on Wolverine, but would love him even more on C/D.

[Niro]

wow people actually like the way ramos draws the way out of disproportionate necks and muscles of ramos

[Nyssane]

I looove Ramos' art style, ever since reading the Manic Monday arc of Spider-man. I especially love how Ramos draws Cannonball. Mucho sexy.

[Brian M.]

wow people actually like the way ramos draws the way out of disproportionate necks and muscles of ramos

It's a comic book it's all out of proportionate. He's a good artist, convey's emotion well and does wonderful action scenes.

[kate-pryde]

I'm not a fan of Reilly Brown either. Someone like Mark Brooks or Clay Henry would be okay on C & DP, but I'd rather see someone with a less cartoon-ish style. I think the book works better when it's very serious art with absolutely ridiculous things happening.

[killerbass]

Count me in among the Ramos lovers.

My Ramos inspired Green Goblin is easily my favorite action figure...

--Tom

[killerbass]

So, I was at MegaCon this weekend.

And I asked Mike Carey whether Deadpool was going to be a part of this summer's upcoming X-Men crossover...

He said that "they" knocked around the idea of Deadpool being a part of the story, but in the end they decided that Deadpool would inevitably change the tone of the story too much.

(Carey then said that he loved Fabian's Burnt Offering arc, especially when Deadpool dresses up as Marvel Girl.)

Finally, Carey said that Fabian will use Deadpool in the Cable & Deadpool part of the summer crossover, but don't expect him in any of the other books...

That is all I know,
Tom

[cable guy]

So, I was at MegaCon this weekend.

And I asked Mike Carey whether Deadpool was going to be a part of this summer's upcoming X-Men crossover...

He said that "they" knocked around the idea of Deadpool being a part of the story, but in the end they decided that Deadpool would inevitably change the tone of the story too much.

(Carey then said that he loved Fabian's Burnt Offering arc, especially when Deadpool dresses up as Marvel Girl.)

Finally, Carey said that Fabian will use Deadpool in the Cable & Deadpool part of the summer crossover, but don't expect him in any of the other books...

That is all I know,
Tom

That's pretty cool you got to chat with him.

[Chino]

Checked out the few issues on Marvel digital comics and im interested to say the least.I missed out on Kellys Deadpool series back in the day.I was too young and broke to add it to my list :rolleyes:
Where would be the best place to start without going too far back.Im still trying to catch up on everything eles on my pull list after a 6 year 'break' from comics so ya...dont want to dish out for all the trades *yet*

[Brian M.]

Checked out the few issues on Marvel digital comics and im interested to say the least.I missed out on Kellys Deadpool series back in the day.I was too young and broke to add it to my list :rolleyes:
Where would be the best place to start without going too far back.Im still trying to catch up on everything eles on my pull list after a 6 year 'break' from comics so ya...dont want to dish out for all the trades *yet*

Without going to far back I'd say start with issue #25. But really and I know this gets redundent you should read Burnt Offering. That's isses #6-10. It explains Cables current power status and his current misson. #25 is a good jump on point b/c it's just a great issue w/ Captain American/Cable. If you wanna get really recent...collect the Civil War arc and anything there after. That should help you get caught up.

[Karl H]

Trades finally arrived! My next post in this thread will be a review!

[Gene M.]

This book is the tits. It would be the tits squared if Zircher was back on it, though.

[Karl H]

Well I've just finished The Burnt Offering... It's actually wrong to like comics as much as this... I'm best man at a wedding this summer and my speech might just be "Buy Cable and Deadpool". end of.

[Chino]

Ok,so I couldnt resist.I went out and got me Vol 1 and 2 and WOW!
I wont spoil it for others who have yet to read it, ill just say that i cried (In a cool, manly way)for Cable, laughed out loud at Deadpool and was in awe of...'the alien' :cool:

I now officially heart Cable and Deadpool as a book and as characters.This book kicks ass!

quesion: How the hell did Cable get so powerful?

[Brian M.]

Ok,so I couldnt resist.I went out and got me Vol 1 and 2 and WOW!
I wont spoil it for others who have yet to read it, ill just say that i cried (In a cool, manly way)for Cable, laughed out loud at Deadpool and was in awe of...'the alien' :cool:

I now officially heart Cable and Deadpool as a book and as characters.This book kicks ass!

quesion: How the hell did Cable get so powerful?

Cable's always had the potential. After the first arc his power potential was realized I guess. I honestly haven't read the first arc but one time, it's so hard to get the issues and I usually just read those issues on Uncannyxmen.net.

[Nyssane]

Yesss.... everyone must read the Burnt Offering and become more exposed to Anaconda's awesomeness! :evilsmile And the story's good, too.

[cable guy]

Cable's always had the potential. After the first arc his power potential was realized I guess. I honestly haven't read the first arc but one time, it's so hard to get the issues and I usually just read those issues on Uncannyxmen.net.

I was just on Uncannyxmen.net..and it reviewed Cable 17.

It holds a special place for me, because it was the first comic I picked up in the 90's.

[Hi-Fi]

So, I was at MegaCon this weekend.

And I asked Mike Carey whether Deadpool was going to be a part of this summer's upcoming X-Men crossover...

He said that "they" knocked around the idea of Deadpool being a part of the story, but in the end they decided that Deadpool would inevitably change the tone of the story too much.

(Carey then said that he loved Fabian's Burnt Offering arc, especially when Deadpool dresses up as Marvel Girl.)

Finally, Carey said that Fabian will use Deadpool in the Cable & Deadpool part of the summer crossover, but don't expect him in any of the other books...

That is all I know,
Tom

Thanks for the info, Tom! Did Carey say anything else about the crossover?

Also,

Happy Birthday, Cable Guy!!!

[Constantinople]

So, Issue 38. More Pym Particles, Agent X and Bob, AGENT OF HYDRA!

Seriously, Bob and that guy (Kenny? Ken?) from A.I.M should get a mini-series.

[Phana]

So, Issue 38. More Pym Particles, Agent X and Bob, AGENT OF HYDRA!

Seriously, Bob and that guy (Kenny? Ken?) from A.I.M should get a mini-series.

Karl? The one from Marvel Adventures? He's hilarious :cool:
Still need to go out and grab this issue.
Edit: Got it, and it was pretty good. Didn't like what happened to Agent X at all. Did like the last page :D There was no letters page, though, and that saddens me. I may have to write in if there was a lack of letters.

[Deadpooligan]

This one of my favorite issues yet. Brown's pencils are really growing on me. Nicieza's got the hybrid handle on DP. Everything from his own original stuff on X-Force and the miniseries, to Kelly to Priest to Simone. Fantastic stuff.

Agent X is still hilarious after all this time. I hope they find some way to reverse the critically debilitating arthritis and morbid obesity.

And freaking T-Ray! I'm so glad he's back. This makes having the entire DP series like three times more worthwhile.

Best line: "Four reasons for me to help you." It's a context joke, and it is hi-larious.

[Sentinel K]

This one of my favorite issues yet. Brown's pencils are really growing on me. Nicieza's got the hybrid handle on DP. Everything from his own original stuff on X-Force and the miniseries, to Kelly to Priest to Simone. Fantastic stuff.



Agreed. Although not one of deepest issues, it sure was hilarious.

I see more greatness on the horizon.

[cable guy]

I see more greatness on the horizon.

We're looking good.

[Crimson]

So who were the two women in this weeks issue? Outlaw and then someone I didn't regonize, although to be fair we didn't get many face shots. heh

[killerbass]

Hey Fabian--

Any chance of them (you know them...) letting you do an issue where Deadpool tries to take over the mantle for Captain America?

There's gold in them thar hills!

--Tom

[cable guy]

So who were the two women in this weeks issue? Outlaw and then someone I didn't regonize, although to be fair we didn't get many face shots. heh

They were in Agent X. They set set up Agency X.

I want to say Sandi was the love interest of Taskmaster.

[Sentinel K]

Wooo Cable & Deadpool!

If you're not reading then you're a bell-end.

[killerbass]

Thanks for the info, Tom! Did Carey say anything else about the crossover?

Sorry it took me so long to respond to this. (I must have missed it...)

Carey didn't tell me much more about the crossover other than to say that it has to do with fallout from House Of M. Are there going to be any new mutants born into the world, that sort of thing. (I told him I didn't want anything major spoiled. (I fear that I might blab on the Internet...))

I think Carey would have been more forthcoming if I had asked. (Or maybe he would have revealed more if I hadn't given him some thoughtful criticism about his run on UFF. And before you ask, I was totally polite -- after all he's a professional, and I'm just some schmoe. :D )

--Tom

[killerbass]

*What has been your favourite issue/arc?

Having just re-read all of the issues, my favorite issue is #12 -- the first issue with Agent X.

Fabian nailed the interaction with Hayden and Wade. The jokes, the fighting and the competition between them was almost exactly liked I hoped it would be.

Plus, this issue has one of the funniest moments (outside of DP in the Marvel Girl outfit) in the entire run -- where Weasel nonchalantly mentions that he likes the way Wade has spelled out "Hello, Weasel" using Agent X's intestines.

Also hilarious was the bickering between Deadpool and Agent X over the return of Agent X's pancreas.

Another gag that has me laughing out loud, was Deadpool's comments about his harness rig having a failsafe release to keep him from exploding, in case he flew into a Kree spaceship -- ala Hawkeye.

Anyway, this is probably my favorite issue.

At least for today...

--Tom

[cable guy]

Issuse 12 may have been the best single Marvel issue of the year.

[killerbass]

Issuse 12 may have been the best single Marvel issue of the year.

I couldn't have said it better myself. ;)

--Tom

[Nyssane]

I liked Issue 12 because of the Chibi-Cable world. The Deadpool storyline took a backseat for me, but I do agree Agent X was funnay.

[Constantinople]

I liked Issue 12 because of the Chibi-Cable world. The Deadpool storyline took a backseat for me, but I do agree Agent X was funnay.

There's a half dozen characters have have appeared once or twice in Cable & Deadpool, and all of them deserve their own limited series. Karl and Bob (Well, Karl was in one of those Reprint magazines, I think), Chibi-Cable and Widdle Wade, Weasel, etc.

[JonBidinger]

Just wondering if anyone would know what issues of X-Men should I get to understand the current Cable/Providence situation? And which ones are direct tie-ins/cross-overs?

Thanks

[Phana]

Anyone else liking the retcon in issue 39? 'Cause I'm liking this retcon a lot. :D Also, the fact that Weasel wasn't joking about his middle name being Winston is awesome.

[Doom Hammer]

Please note, there may be more to the story and a larger picture, and I may end up eating my words. As of now, however, the story has moved on and Fabian has offered the story he's offered. So:

Anyone else liking the retcon in issue 39?

No, it was god-awful. Fabian erased three years of character motivation and story by doing this with WEAK-ASS justification and no reason. I wouldn't mind, but this was half-assed through and through. He didn't even provide an alternative to why T-Ray thinks he's Wade Wilson, why he's allowed himself to become overcome by evil, and so on. T-Ray used to be a scary badass, now he's a blank slate with no apparent agenda.

And this contradicted the most important personality traits of Deadpool, the darkness inside of him that he always has to struggle with, that keeps him from being a hero. Before, he was a tortured soul who used an outrageous personality as a cover. Now, he's ha-ha wacky guy who has the depth of character his detractors have always claimed.

It might seem like I'm overreacting, but I've been dreading this retcon for months. It's just as bad as I thought it'd be. I don't know if I can continue reading this. This is the most devastating blow to the character, like, ever. Damn, it's disappointing.

[Big Red Spider]

I thought it was funny. This was the third best book of the week. (I have to rate everything now) I really liked it.

[UncannyAsianGirl]

Just wondering if anyone would know what issues of X-Men should I get to understand the current Cable/Providence situation? And which ones are direct tie-ins/cross-overs?

Thanks
You should get X-Men #197-#199 for the "Condition Critical" arc. :) This is the arc that ties in with the next arc of C&DP, I don't know if it counts as a crossover though. The scenes on the monitors that Irene and Blackbox are looking at are directly from issue #197. The scene at the end of the issue illustrates the situation on Providence in issue #198.

I believe the next two issues of C&DP are going to focus on Cable and the rest of Rogue's team fighting against Hecatomb, and Nicieza said that Cable and Deadpool are going to be reunited on Providence in issue #42.

I would love to see Deadpool interact with the rest of the X-Men. Carey said he wouldn't do it in his book, but Fabian just might do it in his. :cool:

Hope this helps. :D

Ack! Forgot to comment on the issue! :o I thought it got a little too serious at times, but I think Nicieza did a decent job addressing the retcon, at least on Deadpool's end. I really liked the scene in the bar, when Wade threatened to blow up every bottle of booze in the joint. ^_^

[FabianNicieza]

Please note, there may be more to the story and a larger picture, and I may end up eating my words. As of now, however, the story has moved on and Fabian has offered the story he's offered. So:



No, it was god-awful. Fabian erased three years of character motivation and story by doing this with WEAK-ASS justification and no reason. I wouldn't mind, but this was half-assed through and through. He didn't even provide an alternative to why T-Ray thinks he's Wade Wilson, why he's allowed himself to become overcome by evil, and so on. T-Ray used to be a scary badass, now he's a blank slate with no apparent agenda.

And this contradicted the most important personality traits of Deadpool, the darkness inside of him that he always has to struggle with, that keeps him from being a hero. Before, he was a tortured soul who used an outrageous personality as a cover. Now, he's ha-ha wacky guy who has the depth of character his detractors have always claimed.

It might seem like I'm overreacting, but I've been dreading this retcon for months. It's just as bad as I thought it'd be. I don't know if I can continue reading this. This is the most devastating blow to the character, like, ever. Damn, it's disappointing.



If you pay attention to the whole and not just the parts that steam your eggs, you'd realize that the story purposely leaves you in a nice warm and fuzzy place where you can believe whatever you want to believe.

Deadpool believes what he believes. T-Ray believes what he believes -- and who can trust either one of them, right?

I know what I believe. You can be happy with whatever floats your boat.

"The most devestating blow to the character ever." That's funny. I'm gonna try and use that... ;-)

-- fabian

[Deadpooligan]

No, it was god-awful. Fabian erased three years of character motivation and story by doing this with WEAK-ASS justification and no reason. I wouldn't mind, but this was half-assed through and through. He didn't even provide an alternative to why T-Ray thinks he's Wade Wilson, why he's allowed himself to become overcome by evil, and so on. T-Ray used to be a scary badass, now he's a blank slate with no apparent agenda.

And this contradicted the most important personality traits of Deadpool, the darkness inside of him that he always has to struggle with, that keeps him from being a hero. Before, he was a tortured soul who used an outrageous personality as a cover. Now, he's ha-ha wacky guy who has the depth of character his detractors have always claimed.

It might seem like I'm overreacting, but I've been dreading this retcon for months. It's just as bad as I thought it'd be. I don't know if I can continue reading this. This is the most devastating blow to the character, like, ever. Damn, it's disappointing.

Wow. That's a really articulate opinion, and I can't help but disagree.

Deadpool still has the dread of what he's done (hence, issue 35 of C&DP), so he's still got the same (more or less) characterization.

I can't believe there's so much debate about whether DP is Wade Wilson or T-Ray is. The evidence has been pretty solid. Deadpool remembers most of his life with help from Cable. He mentions this in captions as T-Ray ['s soul(?)] gets absorbed into his dropped katana.

I don't think it's so bad. Kelly obviously intended DP to be the real Wilson anyway (there's some subtle evidence early on in the appearances of T-Ray to boot). He designed T-Ray to cast contrasting doubt because of his confidence. Deadpool was "kind of" sure of his past back then, no thanks to Weapon X. It allowed T-Ray to make him think he wasn't who he claimed to be.

All in all, a good issue for me. I think Fabes has been very faithful to Deadpool. (He co-created him, eh wot.)

There are a couple of things here I would've liked touched upon, though:
-Mercedes Wilson (she disappeared with T-Ray at the end of Kelly's Run); what happened to her?
-Flashbacks for new readers, like the Hell House, T-Ray and DP's past fights, more introspection of their "shared" past.
-WHAT'S UNDER T-RAY'S BAND-AID?! It can't just be a nose!

But! I do know why T-Ray thinks he's DP now. When he was rendered vegetable-like, he had Deadpool's various personalities sucked into him before he got shipped off with a hobo. I'm sure Thanos was still somewhat involved with T-Ray's return as well.

[Deadpooligan]

If you pay attention to the whole and not just the parts that steam your eggs, you'd realize that the story purposely leaves you in a nice warm and fuzzy place where you can believe whatever you want to believe.

Deadpool believes what he believes. T-Ray believes what he believes -- and who can trust either one of them, right?

I know what I believe. You can be happy with whatever floats your boat.

"The most devestating blow to the character ever." That's funny. I'm gonna try and use that... ;-)

-- fabian

Hey Fabes, can I shoot a question at ya?

Any chance for a Deadpool MAX book some point in the future? I think it'd be pretty neat to explore more of Deadpool's tenure in Weapon X experiments and his early days as a mercenary. (Sort of like how Kelly did in the Deadpool/Death Annual a decade or so ago). I find Deadpool to be like two sides of a coin, the funny, hysterical, fourth wall bustin' merc with a mouth, and the darker, damaged, and deformed side of his personality that is what he strives to escape from.

Oh, and, I'm sure there'd be some nifty black comedy in there. Like, morbidly hilarious.

[DasPoppen]

New to this threat and relatively new to C/D. So far I only have read the 2nd TPB (Burnt Offering) and absolutely loved it. Great stuff. Just bought trades 3 and 4 and really looking forward to reading it over the weekend. Starting with issue 40 I will read it on a monthly basis! So one new reader for this great book! (Outside the US, though, so I won't show up in the monthly sales statistics. :p )

[Lanowar]

Yea I re-read a whole bunch of C&D issues lately including The Domino Principle with Citizen V it be cool to see Citizen V again.

Boo to Deadpool not being in X-Men I say it does seem he gets shafted alot in terms of apperances. Cable pops up in Civil War, X-Men among others. Hell even that picture showing all the X-Men seems to get edited to remove Deadpool whenever I see it.

It be cool to see him pop up in non C&D issues like X-Factor or X-Men within reason.

Also is C&D going to tie into World War Hulk? I do so love the C&D tie in's to big storylines

[Doom Hammer]

If you pay attention to the whole and not just the parts that steam your eggs, you'd realize that the story purposely leaves you in a nice warm and fuzzy place where you can believe whatever you want to believe.

Ambiguity in comic book stories is fun, but this is one area where ambiguity just doesn't work. Deadpool's identity, personal and moral, is central to the character himself. He wants to know who he was, so he can figure out who he is. This is why he went borderline suicidal when he had Tom Cruise's face in Priest's run, and was completely content with his own face in your own "If Looks Could Kill." It wasn't about the scars, it was about coming closer - or falling farther - away from who he really is.

And his struggle with that has always rung more truly to me than say, Wolverine, whose quest for identity is played out. The problem for Deadpool is, deep down, he's NOT a good guy. He used to be, in fact, pretty disgusting. And you've followed up on this theme in your own run, most notably in the issues following the wrap-up of "The Burnt Offering" where Deadpool kills Osama (esentially, though I don't recall the terrorist's actual name). Occasionally, he lapses into his old habits.

Now, with these traits in mind, and the knowledge that you have followed up on them amazingly over the course of your own title, please tell me: what about Deadpool being the real Wade Wilson strengthens these traits? What about altering his defining moment at the end of Kelly's run adds to his character? What angle are you coming from? I'm asking because I'm such a huge fan of this book, but on this issue, I have no idea what you're thinking. And to me, it's a deal-breaker. It's like taking "power and responsibility" away from Spider-Man. And I just want to know the value, to you, of making such a drastic change. because ambiguity or not, you've been generous enough to share your opinion on ths before, and I know what you want.


Deadpool believes what he believes. T-Ray believes what he believes -- and who can trust either one of them, right?

And that would be fine, if you had given some other reason why T-Ray would manipulate and systematically destroy Deadpool for three years (our time), and train for this for years before (their time). What was his motivation, then? Why would he think he's the real Wade?

I know what I believe. You can be happy with whatever floats your boat.

Unfortunately, for the time being, that doesn't work for me as a fan of the character. He's been coming to terms with his real identity since the end of Kelly's run. It was made clear in that issue that Deadpool regained his memory of that incident by reliving it. By restoring his whole memory and writing him as the real Wade, you've put him in a position that either contradicts his most powerful character traits, or in a position where he's inexplicably and suddenly lying to himself about something he's been known to be true for years. It just doesn't work.

And that reasoning? Come on. That was pretty flimsy. Who says he didn't wear his costume before he was Deadpool? He could've just been Jack the mercenary who wore a costume. The only evidence to the contrary in continuity is a flashback in Kelly's run that was clearly meant as a joke, and was hardly reliable anyway, since Deadpool didn't even have his memory back then. Kelly also established, by the way, that the memory loss was originally part of the insane denial and psychotic break Deadpool experienced after killing the real Wilsons. The other "holes" in his story were created by you, so there's no arguing with them, really, aside from generally saying they were weak. T-Ray's not Wade because he doesn't have a healing factor?

And please know, I'm not some continuity-obsessed psycho fan, appearances aside. And I'd be more than willing to accept your version if you'd only answer a few questions, clean up the story, and just tell me: what does your version add that justifies taking away the old one?

"The most devestating blow to the character ever." That's funny. I'm gonna try and use that... ;-)

-- fabian

I'm sorry if I seem critical or, well, dickish. I think your book has been absolutely fantastic, and it's only this one issue that bothers me. Unfortunately it's pretty important.

Oh, and the art was awesome. Reilly Brown gets better and more unique every issue.

[Yaw]

Unfortunately, for the time being, that doesn't work for me as a fan of the character. He's been coming to terms with his real identity since the end of Kelly's run. It was made clear in that issue that Deadpool regained his memory of that incident by reliving it. By restoring his whole memory and writing him as the real Wade, you've put him in a position that either contradicts his most powerful character traits, or in a position where he's inexplicably and suddenly lying to himself about something he's been known to be true for years. It just doesn't work.

Correct me if I'm wrong because I don't have the comics in front of me but doesn't Deadpool tell Cable in the issue after the House of M where they are in the bar and Cable is a kid, that his father died in a bar fight? Doesn't he say this and it is repeated in issue #39 BUT in the visual memory of the event in that past issue, we see that Deadpool may have killed his own father at home? I need to go back and look becasue I maybe completely off the mark but I thought this was evidence that he infact doesn't have full memories intact or at the very least believes what he wants to be.

[FabianNicieza]

And I'd be more than willing to accept your version if you'd only answer a few questions, clean up the story, and just tell me: what does your version add that justifies taking away the old one?
...
Oh, and the art was awesome. Reilly Brown gets better and more unique every issue.

And I'm saying I'm not taking away from the old one in the least. I think there is as large a chunk of the Deadpool readership that wasn't thrilled with the whole Wade/T-Ray identity stuff as there were who liked it. I created the character and I found it uncomfortable to have readers who thought he stole T-Ray's Wade Wilson identity, simply because it didn't work for me.

In my opinion, as both reader and creator of the character, that story was made dubious by its own telling and subsequent issues by subsequent writers also cast doubt into the entire soup of "Who is Deadpool" that various writers tried to play out. I GUARANTEE you when Rob first delivered X-FORCE pages and I asked him over the phone, "WHo is this guy?" He didn't say, "He's Deadpool, he's Loki's son."

I wanted to distill a lot, filter it through a prism that allows psychotic characters to all see things in their own light, and go from there.

My answer to your many questions is simple and stated in this issue: Deadpool is who he is. Period.

The core of this character is not as you state: "He wants to know who he was, so he can figure out who he is." That is something that was IMPOSED by other writers upon him (writers whom I respect and whose work I often enjoy, but that's besides the point).

The core central truth of Deadpool is actually almost the OPPOSITE of what you claim. As I have always seen it, his core is more like this:

"He KNOWS who he is but he can't figure out why he is that way or stop himself from being that way."

Therein lies FAR more tragedy, in my opinion, than in your premise.

We'll be getting to explore DP a lot more in the future. If you can get past my savaging of his character, you might enjoy the ride.

Also, I agree 100% about your assessment of Reilly. I was hoping readers would be patient because we're watching a very talented young artist develop on a month by month basis. I think the best is yet to come.

-- fabian

[Greg Anderson]

Fabian, sir. You're awesome.:cool:

[Brian M.]

Mr. Brown is starting to grow on me...I still miss Zircher on the book but Reilly Brown is pretty good.

Also as for the Deadpool/T-Ray thing...you really can't argue with the creator of the character.

[Nyssane]

I love Fabey.

And yeah, I miss Zircher, too, but I haven't *not* liked any of the art after him, either.

[cable guy]

Fabian, sir. You're awesome.:cool:

Yeah he is.

Class guy all the way.

I loved the story anyhow, but even more, so after hearing an in depth converstation, and explanation, between he and Doom Hammer.

[Sentinel K]

I think i've only read the first 4-5 issues of the old deadpool solo series so the ret-con doesn't really taint or affect my view on the character.

It does make me wish it was available in trades though.

Come on Marvel!

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I know nothing about T-ray but from the casual glancing through this thread this whole T-ray/Deadpool thing almost sounds like the Kwannon saga, which for my money, despite Fabian being unquestionably a great writer, was the worst x-story ever written.

That being said, for Fabian to come along and, i guess, clean it up. Well bravo.

Plus the only deadpool that isnt deadpool guy i like is Agent X.

agent x is awesome

[Karthak]

Anyone else liking the retcon in issue 39? 'Cause I'm liking this retcon a lot. :D Also, the fact that Weasel wasn't joking about his middle name being Winston is awesome.

What retcon? I've read every Deadpool issue there is, and I've always believed Deadpool is Wade Wilson, and that T-ray is completely wrong.

[Sentinel K]

It's annoying me how people think this book doesn't matter and that it's going to get cancelled.

These are mostly people who like Cable over in X-men and want him to stay there forever.

I like him in X-Men too but he was HERE FIRST!!


Fabian, if you're about, can you say anything about the books future at all?

Is it safe?

[Deadpooligan]

It's annoying me how people think this book doesn't matter and that it's going to get cancelled.

These are mostly people who like Cable over in X-men and want him to stay there forever.

I like him in X-Men too but he was HERE FIRST!!


Fabian, if you're about, can you say anything about the books future at all?

Is it safe?

The arc Cable is in X-Men, "Condition Critical", directly ties in to the next arc on Cable & Deadpool, "Fractured". think he'll be staying with them just until they leave Providence.

If this book got canceled... hmm. I guess that's a forseeable future when your favorite character is kind of B-List. I'm thinking that day would be something like this:

LCS: "So they canceled Cable & Deadpool, you know."
ME: *amidst tears and rage* "But I'm still reading $30 worth of the other stuff Marvel puts out, which now seems cheerless by comparison!"
LCS: "Bendis' writing is still pretty funny..."
ME: *slaps LCS across the face* "Those thought bubbles aren't comedy, they're LIES! I NEED YELLOW EXPOSITION BOXES!"

[Brian M.]

I really hope this book continues to atleast #100. I love it.

I do get tired of the people who continue to wish for solo books for both characters. This book has a great dynamic, the plots are great and the characters feel real. Never cancel this shit.

[Karl H]

I think it'll probably be the new Spider-girl. Whilst not the most popular book, C&D's fans are vocal enough to make a difference. Besides, since Nextwave died Marvel doesn't produce enough comedy books - unless you read New Excalibur caned which is so bad it's funny.

[killerbass]

The arc Cable is in X-Men, "Condition Critical", directly ties in to the next arc on Cable & Deadpool, "Fractured". think he'll be staying with them just until they leave Providence.

If this book got canceled... hmm. I guess that's a forseeable future when your favorite character is kind of B-List. I'm thinking that day would be something like this:

LCS: "So they canceled Cable & Deadpool, you know."
ME: *amidst tears and rage* "But I'm still reading $30 worth of the other stuff Marvel puts out, which now seems cheerless by comparison!"
LCS: "Bendis' writing is still pretty funny..."
ME: *slaps LCS across the face* "Those thought bubbles aren't comedy, they're LIES! I NEED YELLOW EXPOSITION BOXES!"

I agreee with Deadpooligan 100%, except I would add, "It's all that Deadpooligan's fault. He got me hooked on Deadpool. Book me a ticket to NY..."

--Tom

[rwsmith]

I really hope this book continues to atleast #100. I love it.

I do get tired of the people who continue to wish for solo books for both characters. This book has a great dynamic, the plots are great and the characters feel real. Never cancel this shit.

I disagree. This book is just way too goofy IMO, which is why I'm one of those who hopes that both characters end up with their own books. Fabian could keep Deadpool, since he's a character who lends himself to light-hearted stories anyway, but Cable needs to stay in Mike Carey's book.

[Sentinel K]

It really isn't a goofy book. It has been recently because it's been deadpool-centric.

Usually it strikes a perfect balance.

[rwsmith]

See, I haven't even read the most recent issues. I found it goofy back when both of them were in the book. I mean, the new Six Pack had Anaconda in it. Anaconda! And anything that uses the Great Lakes Avengers is automatically goofy in my book. Squirrel Girl even made an appearance in this title! And that was around the Civil War tie-in issues when both Cable and Deadpool were being featured prominently.

But I suppose it's better than finding out that both Nathan and Wade are descended from some ancient "lupine" offshoot of humanity. That's goofier than anything that's happened in this book IMO.:rolleyes:

[Lanowar]

By the way what is in terms of years the gap between when Agent X was canceled and Cable & Deadpool started up?

[Cthulhudrew]

By the way what is in terms of years the gap between when Agent X was canceled and Cable & Deadpool started up?

Years? More like months. 5 of them.

(Agent X 15- December 2003; C/DP 1- May 2004)

[Deadpooligan]

I agreee with Deadpooligan 100%, except I would add, "It's all that Deadpooligan's fault. He got me hooked on Deadpool. Book me a ticket to NY..."

--Tom

It'll be impossible for anyone to avoid a Deadpool addiction when I'm dealing what Fabes puts out. You're my first of many "victims". (And hey, I never see you around anymore! Drop me a line would ya?!)

Years? More like months. 5 of them.

(Agent X 15- December 2003; C/DP 1- May 2004)

I'm pretty sure Deadpool was in Identity Disc during that hiatus anyway, right? He hasn't been out of books since '97 really.

[Nyssane]

See, I haven't even read the most recent issues. I found it goofy back when both of them were in the book. I mean, the new Six Pack had Anaconda in it. Anaconda! And anything that uses the Great Lakes Avengers is automatically goofy in my book. Squirrel Girl even made an appearance in this title! And that was around the Civil War tie-in issues when both Cable and Deadpool were being featured prominently.

I don't know what your problem is with bashing characters, but it makes you come off as such an asshole. Some of us like Anaconda and the Great Lakes Avengers. Squirrel Girl has infinitely more interesting qualities than Wolverine.

[rwsmith]

Hmm...something about a pot and a kettle comes to mind...;)

[Lanowar]

It'll be impossible for anyone to avoid a Deadpool addiction when I'm dealing what Fabes puts out. You're my first of many "victims". (And hey, I never see you around anymore! Drop me a line would ya?!)



I'm pretty sure Deadpool was in Identity Disc during that hiatus anyway, right? He hasn't been out of books since '97 really.

That was what I was getting at it's odd but he's never been out of a book he's been around in some form or another thats a pretty good feat for a character.

[CmX]

This book freak'n rocks! I loves it. Even though all the D-Listers that guest-star in the book I never know who they are this month I recognized Outlaw! I <3 Inez!

[killerbass]

From All The Rage:

Speaking of stuff you shouldn’t miss, June/July is the time for you Cable/Deadpool fans. I overheard that something big will happen… yeah, I’m on that, too.

The full link is here (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/117799438556471.htm)...

Let's see how this pans out. I hope he's referring to more than the GLI/Deadpool Summer thingie...

--Tom

[Brian M.]

I loved that line in the beginning of #39 when Deadpool goes back to the bar and is beating up folks looking for T-Ray. The dude with gun yells at him that he's gonna shoot Deadpool and Deadpool responds back w/ ,"maybe one day you'll hit the broadside of a barn". I was laughing pretty good w/ that one.

[Deadpooligan]

That was what I was getting at it's odd but he's never been out of a book he's been around in some form or another thats a pretty good feat for a character.

That and he's managed to take a fan-favorite spot in Marvel Action RPG games. (X-ML II, M:UA)

I can't tell you how shocked I was when he jumped out of the sewers in X-Men Legends II. Well, actually I can.

*cue Deadpooligan looking at screen, two years ago...*

"Oh Magneto, you're so all purpose and powerfully rigged..."

*Deadpool breaks through concrete sidewalk, Deadpooligan falls off wheeled computer chair*

"GAH! Deadpool? But you're obscure and B-List at best! ...and voiced by the Crypt Keeper? Yellow speech bubbles be damned!"

From All The Rage:

The full link is here (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/117799438556471.htm)...

Let's see how this pans out. I hope he's referring to more than the GLI/Deadpool Summer thingie...

--Tom

I think he's referring to the GLI/DP SUmemr Special and that we'll see DP rumble with Wolverine (for a notable fifth time!) in issue #43 and #44...

[UncannyAsianGirl]

Nah, the issues coming out in June/July are #41 and #42, and Nicieza described them as the issues in which Wade and Nathan have their reunion on Providence. Judging from what's going on in X-Men currently, and some C&DP solicits, Cable makes a deal with the Mummudrai and gets his powers restored to him (we don't know to what extent though) in order to save what's left of Providence from the Hecatomb, half of Providence gets destroyed, Deadpool arrives on the scene, and judging from the spoilers from X-Men #200, he either goes crazy, gets possessed, or betrays Rogue's team voluntarily. (The other options are die or get depowered, but I don't see this happening to him) Cable's a "bigger picture" sort of guy, plus he has knowledge of the future, or at least his future. It's not so hard to picture him joining Sinister temporarily to fulfill some kind of agenda, either for his goals as a Messiah, or to try and save the mutant race.
I don't really see Carey using Cable in his cast as stealing him from Fabian. Mike's said before that he's a huge fan of Cable and Deadpool, and wouldn't dream of stepping on Fabian's toes, he seems to have a lot of respect for him. This current mini-crossover of sorts (or tie-ins) seems more like a collaboration than Fabian having to change his story in order to accomodate Carey's story. News that Cable would be in Carey's roster had been public since January of last year, so it isn't really a new development either. Ever since Mike's run started, I think it was inevitable that Cable & Deadpool and X-Men would eventually intersect, I think it couldn't have come at a better time. Axel Alonso, the top X-Editor, said that he wanted Cable (and Forge and Bishop) put in the spotlight this year, and I think that these tie-ins in between the two books are going to be how they do it. After this, I think Cable is going to be all Fabian's. :D

I can't really think of how much further he can take the "Mutant Messiah" thing for Cable though, either Nathan succeeds or he doesn't, but that's more like a never-ending battle for him than anything else... but as long as Wade is there to throw him off kilter every so often, I'll keep on reading. :)

[Lanowar]

Yea I know alot of people want Cable to just...go away and it be "Deadpool" but the title seemed to lose somthing when it was just Deadpool I loved his solo series but for some reason I just grew to like the interaction Cable & Deadpool both have with one another.

It'll be nice to have Cable & Deadpool back together again on screen trying to patch things up rather then Cable over here and Deadpool over there and there vaugely seeing one another.

[Deadpooligan]

Nah, the issues coming out in June/July are #41 and #42, and Nicieza described them as the issues in which Wade and Nathan have their reunion on Providence. Judging from what's going on in X-Men currently, and some C&DP solicits, Cable makes a deal with the Mummudrai and gets his powers restored to him (we don't know to what extent though) in order to save what's left of Providence from the Hecatomb, half of Providence gets destroyed, Deadpool arrives on the scene, and judging from the spoilers from X-Men #200, he either goes crazy, gets possessed, or betrays Rogue's team voluntarily. (The other options are die or get depowered, but I don't see this happening to him) Cable's a "bigger picture" sort of guy, plus he has knowledge of the future, or at least his future. It's not so hard to picture him joining Sinister temporarily to fulfill some kind of agenda, either for his goals as a Messiah, or to try and save the mutant race.
I don't really see Carey using Cable in his cast as stealing him from Fabian. Mike's said before that he's a huge fan of Cable and Deadpool, and wouldn't dream of stepping on Fabian's toes, he seems to have a lot of respect for him. This current mini-crossover of sorts (or tie-ins) seems more like a collaboration than Fabian having to change his story in order to accomodate Carey's story. News that Cable would be in Carey's roster had been public since January of last year, so it isn't really a new development either. Ever since Mike's run started, I think it was inevitable that Cable & Deadpool and X-Men would eventually intersect, I think it couldn't have come at a better time. Axel Alonso, the top X-Editor, said that he wanted Cable (and Forge and Bishop) put in the spotlight this year, and I think that these tie-ins in between the two books are going to be how they do it. After this, I think Cable is going to be all Fabian's. :D

I can't really think of how much further he can take the "Mutant Messiah" thing for Cable though, either Nathan succeeds or he doesn't, but that's more like a never-ending battle for him than anything else... but as long as Wade is there to throw him off kilter every so often, I'll keep on reading. :)

Cripes. That sounds extensive and somehow flew *right* over my head.

Anyone up for "The Burnt Offering II: Omega Mutant Boogaloo"? I know I am.

Also, something of relatively important note (for me anyway). The Wikipedia Deadpool (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool_(comics)) page is in dire need of updating. I (in the guise of "IrishmanDX") fixed the side panel an early character history thus far.

So I guess I'm asking if any of you Deadpool fans want to help me sort this mess out, it'd be much appreciated. I'm about to move on to the Joe Kelly stuff next, but if anyone wants to condense the more recent history under Cable & Deadpool, that'd be great.

[Karl H]

Hmm. So I read the vol 6. trade last night. I wasn't that enamoured with the whole Six Pack thing. It felt clunky and like 'another' gee lets have Deadpool turn on Cable moment. There was some good humour there granted and I enjoyed the CW stuff which I hadn't read at the time.

Hopefully though it sounds like things are taking an upturn again though!

[Sentinel K]

The original and best C&D thread returns! :D ;)

[MikeyG]

The original and best C&D thread returns! :D ;)

Just wanted to make sure all you cable/deadpool fans saw this, its a page from Cable Deadpool #42. Jon Malin, a brand new Marvel artist is filling in for half the issue and he got the opportunity to, in his half of the book, draw a couple flashback pages with cable in his original costume.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p178/mikeg_pics/cd42_pg2_3sm.jpg

Looks AWESOME to me! I just started picking up Cable and deadpool again because of these pics. Hopefully marvel uses more of Malin in the future.

[rwsmith]

The latest issue was pretty good. I like how Reilly Brown draws Cable all hairy and rough looking like he was originally in the New Mutants days. And I'm really looking forward to seeing Malin's work on this book in a couple of issues.

[Sentinel K]

So....

Issue #40? (wow, who'd have thunk it?)

A pretty good issue IMO. Obviously it will make a bit more sense alongside X-Men #199 but it provided aan interesting look into Cable's thoughts which is always interesting.

Favourite moments:

"Lucky guess...I guess... Very. Very. Very lucky"

In the middle of the action..."Deadpool called her bluff. He's happy"

[cable guy]

I thought issue 40 was great!

Really looking forward to seeing my 2 favorite titles crossover.

[Brian M.]

Did anyone really think this book was gonna get to issue 40? I wonder how long it's signed on for...isn't it like every 12 issues they renew?

[cable guy]

Did anyone really think this book was gonna get to issue 40? I wonder how long it's signed on for...isn't it like every 12 issues they renew?

Yeh, I remember hearing about that when issue 25 came out.

I believe it was every 6 or 12 issues, back then. Not sure if they are still doing that.

Issue #50, HERE WE COME!

[Diablito]

I actually liked issue 40. Surprising.

[The Purple Skull]

I hope Bob: Agent of Hydra becomes a permanent supporting character in the book! "Two Jacks! Hail Hydra!" All I need now is for Karl: Agent of AIM (From Marvel Adventures: The Avengers) to be integrated into the mainstream Marvel Universe, and I'll be set. :D

[cable guy]

Bob is a stroke of genius.

[Constantinople]

I hope Bob: Agent of Hydra becomes a permanent supporting character in the book! "Two Jacks! Hail Hydra!" All I need now is for Karl: Agent of AIM (From Marvel Adventures: The Avengers) to be integrated into the mainstream Marvel Universe, and I'll be set. :D

Better yet, a Bob & Karl limited series! I think it's already been discussed on here that it should be a crazy room-mates sit-com.

[Sean Whitmore]

Better yet, a Bob & Karl limited series! I think it's already been discussed on here that it should be a crazy room-mates sit-com.

No, make it a takeoff of Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead, with Bob and Karl having been unwittingly present at every major Marvel event. Sort of like the anti-Illuminati.

I'd buy that in a hot minute.


SEAN

[Sentinel K]

No, make it a takeoff of Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead, with Bob and Karl having been unwittingly present at every major Marvel event. Sort of like the anti-Illuminati.

I'd buy that in a hot minute.


SEAN

Isn't there a Star Wars comic like that?

[Hi-Fi]

Hahahahaahah!!! EDITED!!

[Sean Whitmore]

Isn't there a Star Wars comic like that?

Yeah, Tag and Bink Are Dead. I've not read it, but it's supposed to be hilarious.

Though I don't see how it works now if all the Stormtroopers are supposed to be clones of the same guy. But whatever.


SEAN

[Frodo-X]

Yeah, Tag and Bink Are Dead. I've not read it, but it's supposed to be hilarious.

Though I don't see how it works now if all the Stormtroopers are supposed to be clones of the same guy. But whatever.


SEAN
Star Wars is not intended for deep thoughts, Sean.

Oh, and to stay on-topic: I love Cable & Deadpool. No, not in a tentacle way...

[Sentinel K]

Yeah, Tag and Bink Are Dead. I've not read it, but it's supposed to be hilarious.

Though I don't see how it works now if all the Stormtroopers are supposed to be clones of the same guy. But whatever.


SEAN

By the time Episode IV rolls by I'm not sure the Stormtroopers all ARE Jango clones. I'm sure the Emperor has recruited..


What's this thread about again...?

[Frodo-X]

By the time Episode IV rolls by I'm not sure the Stormtroopers all ARE Jango clones. I'm sure the Emperor has recruited..


What's this thread about again...?
I don't know...something to do with satellite dishes and liferafts?

[Dizzy D]

No, make it a takeoff of Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead, with Bob and Karl having been unwittingly present at every major Marvel event. Sort of like the anti-Illuminati.

I'd buy that in a hot minute.


SEAN

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=1613269&postcount=28

Numero five.

[Sean Whitmore]

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=1613269&postcount=28

Numero five.

That's amazing how you stole my idea 2 years before I thought of it.

You're just like that guy who invented self-sealing envelopes.


SEAN

[Dizzy D]

That's amazing how you stole my idea 2 years before I thought of it.

You're just like that guy who invented self-sealing envelopes.


SEAN

If I ever get a time-machine, I'm only going to use it to annoy people living in the past. "Yeah, nice song there, Dylan, but I like the original better." *play cover* *sue him*

[cable guy]

By the time Episode IV rolls by I'm not sure the Stormtroopers all ARE Jango clones. I'm sure the Emperor has recruited..


What's this thread about again...?


I think Cable/Deadpool

Where did the Emperor recruit the clowns from RotJ... getting beat up by freakin Teddy Bears. Eh, sorry just had to say that.

[Lanowar]

Well I had a good weekend at the London Expo I met Staz Johnson who did the Civil War arc of Cable & Deadpool, also getting a sketch of DP and got those civil war issues signed! Cool guy also led to me re-reading the Civil War arc on the way to the con which was still the best of the tie in's in my own view.

I've not read the latest issue but it's high time Deadpool clashed with Sabertooth again...though the question is will it be as contrived as the Wolverine fight in his solo title?

[Nyssane]

I wonder if Anaconda will guest-star again any time soon. :D

[killerbass]

Well I had a good weekend at the London Expo I met Staz Johnson who did the Civil War arc of Cable & Deadpool, also getting a sketch of DP and got those civil war issues signed!

Any chance of us seeing a scan of that sketch?

--Tom

[Lanowar]

Sure why not he was saying how Deadpool is a pain to draw because he has all that harness and all the weapons, still it was cool to meet one one of the guys who drew one of my top books espically over here in england!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/Lanowar/img020.jpg

[Sentinel K]

Thats a really great sketch.

Is it me or is that better than anything that appeared in Johnson's issues?

Maybe he had a bad inker? I dunno.

Anyway....

Doodpool Vs Sabretooth

Place your bets.

[killerbass]

Sure why not he was saying how Deadpool is a pain to draw because he has all that harness and all the weapons, still it was cool to meet one one of the guys who drew one of my top books espically over here in england!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/Lanowar/img020.jpg

Thanks for posting the sketch!

--Tom

[Brian M.]

Thats a really great sketch.

Is it me or is that better than anything that appeared in Johnson's issues?

Maybe he had a bad inker? I dunno.

Anyway....

Doodpool Vs Sabretooth

Place your bets.

No I completely agree. That is the first thing that struck me when I saw that sketch. If he drew like that I'd want him on the book for good.

Last issues art wasn't bad...I just don't like the way Cable was drawn.

As for Sabertooth and Deadpool...it'll probably be one of the funniest fights of the series.

[Sentinel K]

No I completely agree. That is the first thing that struck me when I saw that sketch. If he drew like that I'd want him on the book for good.

Last issues art wasn't bad...I just don't like the way Cable was drawn.

As for Sabertooth and Deadpool...it'll probably be one of the funniest fights of the series.

Johnson didn't do the last issue. Reiley Brown did. Or were you not implying that?

Johnson did the Civil war issues and #37.

And for some reason I called Deadpool 'Doodpool'.

I'm an idiot.

[rwsmith]

Last issues art wasn't bad...I just don't like the way Cable was drawn.

Really? I thought his Cable was pretty good. He was bulky and hairy/stubbly, just like when he first debuted in New Mutants. Somehow it makes him look older and rougher, and that's how I always think of Cable. Not as a smooth, lean pretty-boy type, like his son.;)

[UncannyAsianGirl]

Thats a really great sketch.

Is it me or is that better than anything that appeared in Johnson's issues?

Maybe he had a bad inker? I dunno.

Anyway....

Doodpool Vs Sabretooth

Place your bets.
I think Wade's going to take it, he hasn't made Creed pay yet for what he did to Copycat. :(

The fight's probably not going to have a definite conclusion though, since Sabretooth is also appearing in Wolverine (how they're going to fit this into continuity, I have no idea), but not in X-Men #200. Carey said earlier that Sabretooth faces a change in status, and a bit of a dilemma in between #199 and #200, so if it isn't Deadpool who does him in, it's going to be Wolverine, who's making an appearance in Cable & Deadpool #43.

Oh, and if anyone's interested, Newsarama's got preview pages of C&DP #41 (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113742)... and Bob and Outlaw are joining Wade on his trip to Providence! :D I hope, hope, hope we get to see some interaction between Wade's crew and Rogue's crew.

Especially some Deadpool/Rogue interaction... you know he's going to throw in some innuendo about sucking the life out of people in there somewhere. :p

Oh, see that figure hunched over in the darkness putting his/her hands around someone's head on page 3? Who do you think it is? While it's obvious that the person has long hair, I think the figure's too slim to be Sabretooth, and the hunched back could be attributed to either a coat, or a cape...

If it's not the potential assassin or a Marauder, I think it could be Rogue... :eek: She was acting all vampire-ish at the end of #199... I'm probably wrong though.

And does anyone think that Fabian will be revisiting a few of his plots from his X-Men run in the pages of C&DP? (issue 12-45) He said that the Marauders would be making a visit, and we know that one of them is Gambit.

Definitely looking forward to the next few issues of C&DP, and I also can't wait for Wade and Nathan's reunion. It's about time that they buddy up again. ^_^

[Sean Whitmore]

As for Sabertooth and Deadpool...it'll probably be one of the funniest fights of the series.

I imagine it would be like that fight between Wolverine and the Regrowing Arm dude in X3...only times two.


SEAN

[Brian M.]

Johnson didn't do the last issue. Reiley Brown did. Or were you not implying that?

Johnson did the Civil war issues and #37.

And for some reason I called Deadpool 'Doodpool'.

I'm an idiot.

Oh I wasn't implaying that Staz did the art for last issue, should have just stated Reilly Brown.

Zircher will always be #1 for me on this title, but art for #41 and #42 looks decent enough.

[Cable2X]

I've pretty much stopped buying issue by issue since early 20's, and I'll prob pick up the tpb's for what I've missed so far. I'm really a tpb kinda guy now.

But I did pick up # 40, and I'll prob get 41 since it sounds exciting!!!

And its true, Cable has eveolved past his 1992 persona, but I admit I prefer the powered down Cable that uses weapons and skills to battle as opposed to the powerful "messiah" Cable.

Say has the psimitar made an appearence lately, I wouldn't mind seeing that weapon in Cable's hands again.

[Lanowar]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s176/nightstar1441/EMDeadpool.jpg

Latest sneak peak for you all! Enjoy

From the new Eaglemoss UK marvel minitures series, thanks to Nightstar for posting it over in the thread.

[Cable2X]

Oops, double post....

[Cable2X]

This is an odd question, but have any of you played Marvel vs Capcom 2, and if so what do you think of Cable?

Better yet, what are your favorite characters?

[Bane]

Cable has always been my favorite. Quite the completist actually, until I stopped reading comics about a year and a half ago. I want to get into it again and was wondering if any of you knew what cable has appeared in during that time!

Long live Cable and Deadpool...

(thanks for your time)

[Sentinel K]

So Providence is gone, Black Box is dead, the dream is in ruins.

It doesn't look good. And i don't just mean within the story.

I get the feeling Nicieza is preparing to shut up shop. Nearly everything that Cable has built over the past 40 issues has been destroyed.

It wouldn't surprise me if #50 is the last one. I really, really hope not though.

C&D is the one book I can rely on (apart from X-Factor) to bring the noize EVERY month.

*sniff*

[Karl H]

So Providence is gone, Black Box is dead, the dream is in ruins.

It doesn't look good. And i don't just mean within the story.

I get the feeling Nicieza is preparing to shut up shop. Nearly everything that Cable has built over the past 40 issues has been destroyed.

It wouldn't surprise me if #50 is the last one. I really, really hope not though.

C&D is the one book I can rely on (apart from X-Factor) to bring the noize EVERY month.

*sniff*


Yeah. I worry that Marvel are getting ready to go back to the 90's. Having said that, I NEVER expected a Cable comic to be this good for SO long.

[cable guy]

It's been a hell of a ride, but it may be drawing to a close.

If last issue is any indication, it's gonna pick up dramatically.

Last issue was the best one since #12 IMO.

[The Colonel]

ive become more and more of a cable fan reading this series....the latest issue was very good.....the deadpool vs. Sabretooth one

[Constantinople]

It wouldn't surprise me if #50 is the last one. I really, really hope not though.

No, I think this series will last as long as at least 69 issues. Perhaps 70.

Not that I think this series is bad, I'll buy every single one of those issues, but Deadpool's first continuing series lasted 69 issues. With Cable's fans behind it, too, it should last at least 70.

[Red Lotus]

As soon as Captain America was killed, there was one thing I kept saying that I really wanted to happen.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/barthufo/CableDeadpool4501.jpg

I wanted Deadpool to run a around dressed like CA. I thought it would be so funny. I can't wait till 45 come out.

[Doom Hammer]

Why is Skottie Young not doing the interiors?! His covers are so amazing. His art is high-energy and stylized, just the right kind of cartoonish look this book would benefit from.

[Constantinople]

Issue forty-two's cover:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Gorarat_greatclaw/Cable__Deadpool_042_000.jpg

So, that's Gambit and that's... Nova?

[Nyssane]

Issue forty-two's cover:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Gorarat_greatclaw/Cable__Deadpool_042_000.jpg

So, that's Gambit and that's... Nova?

Gambit and Sunfire. :) And eee, I can't wait to get this ish!

[Brian M.]

Summary is up.

[Gene M.]

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/

It'll be really crappy if C&D gets the axe. If you check the link, though, it's rumored that at least one half of Marvel's best buddy-cop book is gonna still have his own title to call home.

[Brian M.]

As fun as Deadpool is, it's his interactions w/ Cable that made me a fan of him. I'll miss the lightheartedness he brought to the ever serious Cable.

[jarrod]

Holishit, they should just do a Deadpool & Mystique series. Nicezia and TEX, could be amazing! :D

[rwsmith]

As fun as Deadpool is, it's his interactions w/ Cable that made me a fan of him. I'll miss the lightheartedness he brought to the ever serious Cable.

Well, he'll have Wolverine to play off of for the next few months if it's any consolation.

Perhaps that could become a permanent situation? Deadpool/Wolverine has a nice ring to it...



...I kid, I kid.;)

[Gene M.]

Okay, this has really been bothering me. Tearing me up inside, if you will.

Did anyone else think it seemed really odd that Cable called Gambit a "butthole"? Who says that? I think maybe Black Box uploaded one too many episodes of Beavis and Butt-Head into Nate's brain. I'm surprised that Cable's last words weren't "Shiro! Don't be such a fartknockerrrrrrrrrrr.........."

[Frodo-X]

Okay, this has really been bothering me. Tearing me up inside, if you will.

Did anyone else think it seemed really odd that Cable called Gambit a "butthole"? Who says that? I think maybe Black Box uploaded one too many episodes of Beavis and Butt-Head into Nate's brain.
Shut up, doodyhead!

[Sentinel K]

Okay, this has really been bothering me. Tearing me up inside, if you will.

Did anyone else think it seemed really odd that Cable called Gambit a "butthole"? Who says that? I think maybe Black Box uploaded one too many episodes of Beavis and Butt-Head into Nate's brain. I'm surprised that Cable's last words weren't "Shiro! Don't be such a fartknockerrrrrrrrrrr.........."

I like to think it was Wade's influence.

They rubbed off on each other. :(

[Gene M.]

I like to think it was Wade's influence.

They rubbed off on each other. :(
Don't be sad, Pete. You'll always have Wade's gay sunbathing fantasies to look back on.

[Jarath]

Only just joined the forum and I knew this had to be the first thread I posted in.

I've loved Deadpool since I picked up Deadpool #1 by Kelly. When Agent X was cancelled for the first time I was heart-broken. And then Simone (possibly my favourite comic writer) came back and wrote the awesome return of the true Deadpool (Love Alex Haydon don't worry).

Cable & Deadpool has been great though, it's a breath of fresh air compared to the generally over dramatic industry. Lately it seems to have struggled to find a direction but the writing is still good and I am looking forward to seeing where the odd couple will go next.

I'd like to through in my suggestion for best moment of the series, and for me it has to be the issue where Wade helps out the x-men and gets an official uniform. I'm planning on rereading them all (and Agent X) over the next couple of days so I'll make notes of other moments I like. Annoyingly I have like 2-3 missing single issues, going to have to find them online and order them I think.

Anyway hello...
And make mine deadpool!

[Sentinel K]

I am loving Skottie Young's covers SO much.

Another awesoem one.

http://images.comicbookresources.com/solicits/marvelcomics/200710_advance/CABDPL046_cov.jpg