The Only Cable & Deadpool thread

[UncannyAsianGirl]

Heh, oh Wade, whatever will the rest of the Marvel U do with you, now that Cable isn't there to keep you out of trouble? :p

About Cable's death... maybe it wasn't the "real" Cable? We know that in the X-Force mini Cable disappeared/died when fighting Skornn, and as of the HoM issues of C&DP, Mr. Sinister made baby!Cable from the DNA of two mutants in the Wanda-altered world, (so he could feasibly be the real child of Scott and Jean, instead of Scott and Madelyne, but we never saw what became of Jean in the HoM world, or Maddy) then was given the memories/essence of the original Cable and aged to his normal age.

So, if this wasn't the "original" Cable that died, is it possible that the one who fought the Skornn he is still floating out in limbo somewhere?

But, if the HoM Mr. Sinister-created Cable is the real Cable, then this theory is pretty much out.

So here's another one for ya, the Phalanx baby. In issue #42, Cable commented on how it was trying to repair and replace the wounded parts of him, and was worried that it might completely take him over. So, what if it did? Is it possible that the Phalanx could've survived Providence being blown into oblivion? But instead of a rehash of the alternate Phalanx-infested Cable we saw in the HoM issues of C&DP, what if it also merged with the Professor, providing a sort of conscience for him/it. It guided Cable, so perhaps it could do the same in this instance.

If not these, then blah blah blah time travel/genetic experiments/body slide in the nick of time, etc. etc. etc.

Or he's really dead. I'm positive that his death is going to have a pretty big impact in the X-books, or at least X-Men and C&DP (of course).

It was fun seeing Wade and Nathan being all buddy-buddy together, at the very least Deadpool is still around, and Bob is around to keep things interesting. Not to mention the cast from Agency X. :D

[Euks]

Heh, oh Wade, whatever will the rest of the Marvel U do with you, now that Cable isn't there to keep you out of trouble? :p

About Cable's death... maybe it wasn't the "real" Cable? We know that in the X-Force mini Cable disappeared/died when fighting Skornn, and as of the HoM issues of C&DP, Mr. Sinister made baby!Cable from the DNA of two mutants in the Wanda-altered world, (so he could feasibly be the real child of Scott and Jean, instead of Scott and Madelyne, but we never saw what became of Jean in the HoM world, or Maddy) then was given the memories/essence of the original Cable and aged to his normal age.

So, if this wasn't the "original" Cable that died, is it possible that the one who fought the Skornn he is still floating out in limbo somewhere?

But, if the HoM Mr. Sinister-created Cable is the real Cable, then this theory is pretty much out.

So here's another one for ya, the Phalanx baby. In issue #42, Cable commented on how it was trying to repair and replace the wounded parts of him, and was worried that it might completely take him over. So, what if it did? Is it possible that the Phalanx could've survived Providence being blown into oblivion? But instead of a rehash of the alternate Phalanx-infested Cable we saw in the HoM issues of C&DP, what if it also merged with the Professor, providing a sort of conscience for him/it. It guided Cable, so perhaps it could do the same in this instance.

If not these, then blah blah blah time travel/genetic experiments/body slide in the nick of time, etc. etc. etc.

Or he's really dead. I'm positive that his death is going to have a pretty big impact in the X-books, or at least X-Men and C&DP (of course).

It was fun seeing Wade and Nathan being all buddy-buddy together, at the very least Deadpool is still around, and Bob is around to keep things interesting. Not to mention the cast from Agency X. :D

Interesting theories. It's never been fully explained whether or not the baby that Deadpool picked up was the real Cable he was searching for. It was close enough at the very least, but may not have been the real thing. I also think it was never well explained if the new Cable had the TO virus, or still had the Phalanx baby merged in. Who knows, maybe Cable will be the baby that's born in MC.

I'm also wondering how Deadpool and Bob get sent hurtling through time in the upcoming issues. Maybe they'll run into some version of Cable along the way.

[cable guy]

Yeah, good stuff there UAG!

[YoungG03]

i dont think cable is gone...its too weak of a way to go but i have a question. What did Cable mean tha the best way to take out your opponents is to take them exactly what it is you trying to protect?

but cable and deadpool is real funny. Has it always been like this? Oh and i thought that technovirus was gone but its still eatin at him...woah.

Oh and does anyone got a pic of Gambit when he went to be a horseman? How that happen anyway...I cant remember the last I saw him though...

Why did Cable lose his power before some parasite enter his body as well?

[Kevin Vetter]

This is gambit as death. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/dkpunk27/X-Men184-024.jpg?t=1184705023


Cable lost his powers very early on in the series when he had deadpool remove the part of his brain that controlled his powers so they wouldn't burn out and kill him like what was supposed to happen with x-man.

The virus was gone but cable was in a coma after part of his brain was removed and I don't remember exactly why but giving cable a new t/o thing was needed to save him and bring him out of the coma. Then he used stolen s.h.i.e.l.d. tech to give him a new kind of tk then when the mummudrai merged with him he got his psi powers back until the mummudrai died and took them with it.

[cable guy]

i dont think cable is gone...its too weak of a way to go but i have a question. What did Cable mean tha the best way to take out your opponents is to take them exactly what it is you trying to protect?


Cable has been fighting wars, and reading minds for some time now. He has a good feel for what to do in certain situations; almost to a fault.

[YoungG03]

oh i was hopin someone can explain that tactic

[ClanAskani]

It's possible Nathan misjudged the situation, but with all his experience, he should be able to outwit Remy. Remy has never been a tactical genius.

[kate-pryde]

Publisher's Weekly's Marvel June Month-to-Month Sale article has an interesting comment about Cable & Deadpool:


04/07 Cable & Deadpool #39 - 26,110 ( -0.6%)
05/07 Cable & Deadpool #40 - 26,120 ( +0.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #41 - 27,431 ( +5.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #42 - 27,203 ( -0.8%)

This is a two-part crossover with X-MEN, not that you’d know it from Marvel’s promotion. I can’t understand what they were thinking here; if they’d told people what was actually in the book, they’d have sold thousands more copies. It’s not like Marvel to throw away money like this.

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/07/19/marvel-month-to-month-sales-june-2007/


I've been debating what the rationale is for the lack of promotion of Cable & Deadpool.

Does Marvel want to avoid spoiling Cable's death, wanting to hint that either Cable or Rogue may die?

Or is it Marvel trying to avoid overhyping a death that isn't a real death at all and it will be revealed in a few issues that Cable isn't really dead at all?

Or does Marvel just hate C&D or have it in for Cable or what ever conspiracy theory anyone wants to come up with? Not that I think Marvel wants to tank one of their titles, but if the plan is to cancel it, perhaps no time and money is being spent promoting something that is essentially a lame duck waiting to be canceled by the end of the year?

[Fatguy]

As fun as Deadpool is, it's his interactions w/ Cable that made me a fan of him. I'll miss the lightheartedness he brought to the ever serious Cable.

Totally agree, since he first appeared I was always lukewarm/indifferent to Deadpool, this is the book that made me fall in love with Wade. Their interactions are great.

This is gambit as death. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/dkpunk27/X-Men184-024.jpg?t=1184705023

Such a horrible image.

[Euks]

Or does Marvel just hate C&D or have it in for Cable or what ever conspiracy theory anyone wants to come up with? Not that I think Marvel wants to tank one of their titles, but if the plan is to cancel it, perhaps no time and money is being spent promoting something that is essentially a lame duck waiting to be canceled by the end of the year?

I'm all for this theory. I totally feel like they're just waiting to cancel Cable & Deadpool, so they made no effort to promote the fact that there was a cross over, or the fact that there were 2 issues in 1 month. I really really hope they don't cancel it because C&D is my favorite comic, but the outlook doesn't look good :( I hope at the least we get a continuing Deadpool series if they do cancel C&D or rename it. I also hope Fabian is still around to steer it, at least during the early stages of it.

[Blade X]

Publisher's Weekly's Marvel June Month-to-Month Sale article has an interesting comment about Cable & Deadpool:



I've been debating what the rationale is for the lack of promotion of Cable & Deadpool.

Does Marvel want to avoid spoiling Cable's death, wanting to hint that either Cable or Rogue may die?

Or is it Marvel trying to avoid overhyping a death that isn't a real death at all and it will be revealed in a few issues that Cable isn't really dead at all?

Or does Marvel just hate C&D or have it in for Cable or what ever conspiracy theory anyone wants to come up with? Not that I think Marvel wants to tank one of their titles, but if the plan is to cancel it, perhaps no time and money is being spent promoting something that is essentially a lame duck waiting to be canceled by the end of the year?

My theory (and I could be wrong) on why Marvel has'nt promoted C&D is because the book is'nt writen by a popular,critically acclaim,or celebrity writer.

[dreyson]

i don't get why cable was killed off. deadpool is ok, but not by himself. cable was the only good part of cable & deadpool.

[Deadpooligan]

My theory (and I could be wrong) on why Marvel has'nt promoted C&D is because the book is'nt writen by a popular,critically acclaim,or celebrity writer.

You are wrong. Fabian Nicieza was one of the biggest names in the X-Verse during the 90's.

i don't get why cable was killed off. deadpool is ok, but not by himself. cable was the only good part of cable & deadpool.

LIES! The reason it's a team book is because they're both good!

[Sean Whitmore]

You are wrong. Fabian Nicieza was one of the biggest names in the X-Verse during the 90's.

"During the 90's" being the operative phrase, there.


SEAN

[kate-pryde]

I'm all for this theory. I totally feel like they're just waiting to cancel Cable & Deadpool, so they made no effort to promote the fact that there was a cross over, or the fact that there were 2 issues in 1 month. I really really hope they don't cancel it because C&D is my favorite comic, but the outlook doesn't look good :( I hope at the least we get a continuing Deadpool series if they do cancel C&D or rename it. I also hope Fabian is still around to steer it, at least during the early stages of it.

I even wonder if Marvel wants Cable & Deadpool to fail. If the numbers go up, it may justify keeping it around. If the numbers go down during a crossover, anyone who wants to cancel the book at Marvel can point to the low numbers and say it means it deserves cancelation. :evilangry

The next four issues Marvel is bringing in every major guest star they can to prop up Deadpool. Clearly they're trying to promote Deadpool, while completely downplaying Cable's death. :mad:

Moonstone announced that Nicieza is writing a Captain Action comic. I wonder if he's getting the boot from Marvel completely?

[ClanAskani]

I even wonder if Marvel wants Cable & Deadpool to fail. If the numbers go up, it may justify keeping it around. If the numbers go down during a crossover, anyone who wants to cancel the book at Marvel can point to the low numbers and say it means it deserves cancelation. :evilangry

I hope that isn't true. After all of the buzz that Axel Alonso had major plans for Cable - to find out those plans were to unceremoniously kill of Nathan and give Deadpool a solo title?

[Euks]

Moonstone announced that Nicieza is writing a Captain Action comic. I wonder if he's getting the boot from Marvel completely?

I'm wondering that too. Fabian usually has one or two posts on these forums, but as of late he's been nowhere to be seen. Hopefully Marvel isn't letting him go :(

[kate-pryde]

I'm wondering that too. Fabian usually has one or two posts on these forums, but as of late he's been nowhere to be seen. Hopefully Marvel isn't letting him go :(

At first I was thinking that there hadn't been any word from Nicieza because it would be a spoiler if Cable wasn't dead.

But the more I think about, if Cable is dead and it's a foregone conclusion that Cable & Deadpool is cancelled, what would the point of Nicieza doing an interview? There's nothing to promote or hype. It's all over and no sense giving fans false hope or getting fans excited about the future of the book or Cable.

[Blade X]

"During the 90's" being the operative phrase, there.


SEAN

EXACTLY. TPTB at Marvel (and DC) tend to treat those writers who are not popular,critically acclaimed,or celebrities like a red headed stepchild. No matter how good their current stories are.

[Blade X]

I hope that isn't true. After all of the buzz that Axel Alonso had major plans for Cable - to find out those plans were to unceremoniously kill of Nathan and give Deadpool a solo title?

I'd be very wary of ANY plans that Axel Alonso has for ANY Marvel characters. IMO, Alonso is one of the worst superhero editors and I feel that he should NOT be editing ANY mainstream superhero titles. Was'nt Alonso the editor of such sales disasters like SOLDIER X,AGENT X,and X-FORCE/X-STATIX (yeah I know that X-STATIX had a small loyal fan following and was critically acclaimed, but it was still a sales flop).

[Blade X]

I'm wondering that too. Fabian usually has one or two posts on these forums, but as of late he's been nowhere to be seen. Hopefully Marvel isn't letting him go :(

I also hope Marvel is'nt letting him go. Unfortunately I'm getting the sad feeling that Marvel is going to kick him off C&D like they did on THUNDERBOLTS.

[swollenpickles]

deadpool is ok, but not by himself. cable was the only good part of cable & deadpool.

Take that back! What a terrible thing to say. Go sit in the corner or something!! :p

[kate-pryde]

I'd be very wary of ANY plans that Axel Alonso has for ANY Marvel characters. IMO, Alonso is one of the worst superhero editors and I feel that he should NOT be editing ANY mainstream superhero titles. Was'nt Alonso the editor of such sales disasters like SOLDIER X,AGENT X,and X-FORCE/X-STATIX (yeah I know that X-STATIX had a small loyal fan following and was critically acclaimed, but it was still a sales flop).

Alonso wasn't the editor for Soldier X. That dishonor goes to Andrew Lis, who was also editor for most of Tischman's horrible run that destroyed Cable's solo title.

Quesada is the one who's run Cable into the ground. As soon as he took over as EiC, he fired Weinberg from Cable (which was popular with fans and selling well) and redid Cable as a mercenary with Tischman and Kordey. That flopped and Cable was cancelled in 2002.

Then Soldier X was launched and cancelled 12 issues later.

Essentially, in 2000 Cable was one of Marvel's top books and Cable was one of Marvel's premiere characters. And once Quesada took over, there were several failed attempts to reinvent Cable. Then in 2004, Cable & Deadpool was launched and that's always been one step away from cancellation. So it's been all down-hill for Cable since Quesada took over.

I'm still not sure what to make of what Alonso said. Either killing off Cable is the first step in bigger plans. Or wanted to be rid of Cable. Clearly Cable isn't the type of character he likes. But every attempt to turn Cable into a more gritty, real-world mercenary type character has failed miserably. Why do another Tischman or Soldier X type Cable? Why not go back to what worked?

Even in May only weeks before Cable "died", Alonso was hyping something with Cable:


Axel Alonso: As Group Editor, the buck ends with me, so I have spent the last few months focusing on the "big picture": assessing the strengths and weaknesses of the line, poring over old stories and taking a good look at characters who I see lots of potential in - like, say, Cable or Bishop or Forge.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10703


So, is that a lot of potential in Cable's death? Or was that only a fake-out to make it seem like Cable wouldn't dying?

Unfortunately, I think Alonso is the type of editor that would want to get rid of Cable, since new readers might find him confusing and might have to actually read to figure out what's going on.

And under Alonso, if Cable does return, it probably will be something silly like as completely robotic or something that would completely remove all continuity and anything remotely interesting about him. Maybe he'll be a big bad robot with a ginormous gun. :rolleyes:

[Daithi]

Essentially, in 2000 Cable was one of Marvel's top books and Cable was one of Marvel's premiere characters. And once Quesada took over, there were several failed attempts to reinvent Cable. Then in 2004, Cable & Deadpool was launched and that's always been one step away from cancellation. So it's been all down-hill for Cable since Quesada took over.

Well in terms of sales yeah. However Cable and Deadpool is a quality book. When it's cancelled it will be sorely missed. Unlike Soldier X or any of that rubbish.

[rwsmith]

And under Alonso, if Cable does return, it probably will be something silly like as completely robotic or something that would completely remove all continuity and anything remotely interesting about him. Maybe he'll be a big bad robot with a ginormous gun. :rolleyes:

That would be sweet! If they would bring back cyborg/Terminator Cable and ditch all of the stupid Askani crap I would be all over it!

Otherwise I hope he stays dead forever.

[Brian M.]

That would be sweet! If they would bring back cyborg/Terminator Cable and ditch all of the stupid Askani crap I would be all over it!

Otherwise I hope he stays dead forever.

I hope Wolverine falls on that magic sword.

[kate-pryde]

That would be sweet! If they would bring back cyborg/Terminator Cable and ditch all of the stupid Askani crap I would be all over it!

Otherwise I hope he stays dead forever.

That's exactly what we need. A Cable who is nothing but a large phallic gun. :rolleyes:

The problem is that Alonso is the type of editor that only wants to appeal to the "Alpha Males", and wants all the female X-fans to go read Spider-man Loves Mary Jane . :rolleyes:

[kate-pryde]

Preview for Cable & Deadpool 43:
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0707/20/marvelfirsts.htm

Scott's in it :)

[Brian M.]

Preview for Cable & Deadpool 43:
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0707/20/marvelfirsts.htm

Scott's in it :)

I hope we get more that in the issue. I would love to see it take up a decent part of the issue.

[kate-pryde]

I hope we get more that in the issue. I would love to see it take up a decent part of the issue.

Agreed. That's the best I've seen Scott written in years.

[Hi-Fi]

Agreed. That's the best I've seen Scott written in years.
What? Wow, you guys are easily pleased. Scott said like two sentences in this. And they were both akward. It didn't feel like he went there to pay his respects, more like he was trying to find Deadpool and ask for his help.

[Brian M.]

What? Wow, you guys are easily pleased. Scott said like two sentences in this. And they were both akward. It didn't feel like he went there to pay his respects, more like he was trying to find Deadpool and ask for his help.

I'm sure there'll be more. Fabian never disappoints.

[rwsmith]

I hope Wolverine falls on that magic sword.

Ha!

That's exactly what we need. A Cable who is nothing but a large phallic gun. :rolleyes:

The problem is that Alonso is the type of editor that only wants to appeal to the "Alpha Males", and wants all the female X-fans to go read Spider-man Loves Mary Jane . :rolleyes:

PHALLIC GUNS! PHALLIC GUNS! PHALLIC GUNS!

[Sentinel K]

Help me lift my gun! Techno-Organic prolapse imminent!

[Euks]

Haha, those first preview pages of C&D are great. I felt the series was losing a little bit of its humor during the couple of issues leading up to #40, but it seems to have returned to its old form. However, I am a bit worried about the 4th wall breaking that Deadpool's doing. When he says "...whatever other lame explanation they're going to come up with when you come back" I have a feeling that means either Fabian is leaving soon, or Cable's not coming back :( (Not sure if it's a spoiler because it's a public preview, but just in case...)

[captain winkie]

Throughout the series I've caught on to (and really enjoyed) a lot of pokes at what Marvel has done with this book, these characters, and of course this great writer.

I perceived some great parallels between Cable's dreams for Providence and world peace being ignored/shot down and Fabe's plans for Cable and this book. But honestly, i kind of like that C&D kind of flies under the rada and Fabe is able to basically say what he wants and poke fun at Marvel and the Marvel U. There has been a crossover with just about every major event in the Marvel U and they've been fun instead of weighing down C&D like they do so many other books. For instance, I'm of the opinion that event-heaviness negatively impacted the Spider books.


As for Cable getting hyped and then killed, their plans need a Cable with a relatively clean slate, and there was no way that Cable would just walk away from Providence and everything that he has built. Plus, as has been pointed out in this thread, if anyone is an easy character to resurrect, its Cable.

Anyway, I'm with Wade for life, always have been, always will be. And I'm with Fabe as well.

[w00tmaster93]

When Cable died my childhood ended :( ...........no but seriously he should come back, as much as I love Deadpool I always liked them as a team better.

[rwsmith]

Y'know, the more I think about it the more I think Cable is coming back. Probably not to this book, however, as I do believe it's done soon. Deadpool may get his own ongoing once it's cancelled, though. Not sure if Fabian will be writing that or not.

As for Cable, I just can't shake the feeling that he'll be coming back somehow in Messiah Complex. Wade even hints at it in the preview for this week's issue of C/D, as he breaks the 4th wall. He says something to the effect of "How long does it take for them to come up with some lame explanation for your return?" My thought is that he will return a very different character, though. Perhaps more similar to his early X-Force days (which would be great IMO).

And they'll probably either relaunch X-Force or give him his own ongoing, or perhaps even both. I bet we'll hear something one way or the other next weekend coming out of San Diego. If there's nothing in any of the announcements about Cable, then he's probably gone for good. But I bet we'll hear or see something about him.

[Jarath]

I think it is a no-brianer that Cable is coming back. And it really annoys me that after building Cable back up to be an interesting character that Fabian is having him ripped out of his control.

It wouldn't surprise me if Dan Slott was put onto a Deadpool ongoing after Deadpool/GLI.

Maybe they will make an Agency X ongoing?

[Craig T. Nelson]

Simply put Cable/Deadpool rekindled my interest in comics. I love this series.

[cable guy]

I think it is a no-brianer that Cable is coming back. And it really annoys me that after building Cable back up to be an interesting character that Fabian is having him ripped out of his control.


I didn't understand why some people thought Fabian would be unhappy with the editors.

Now I do.

[Jarath]

There is a line in CnD 40 I think it was where Cable does talk abut being a Messiah. Wonder if that might have been a little hint by Fabe that Cable will play a big role in Messiah Complex?

Can't wait to pick up the latest issue tomorrow, from what I have read about it it should be awesome.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of an Agency X ongoing...

- Deadpool
- Fat Agent X, his relationship with Wade is great and his battle to get slim would be a great comedy subplot.
- Outlaw
- Sandi
- Taskmaster, I'd like to see something more about the suggested relationship with Sandi at the end of Agent X, plus him and Wade/Alex play off each other so well. Plus give him his Agent X costume back it is so much better than the one he had in CnD 36.
- Bob, not been around long but he is already proving to be a fan favourite.
- Weasel, can't have Wade without his old buddy Weasel.

hhmmm maybe Mary Zero? Didn't really like her much though, I think there were bigger plans for her back in Agent X but they had to scuttle them when it was canned. Although I would think Wade would be able to see her aswell as Alex.

Phew glad I have got that off my chest...

[madrox1977]

Jarath how can you list those people to be in an agency X series and not mention their new cleaner Blind Al...she has to make a return sometime

oh and just to show i do have good luck on occassion went to LCS on friday and they had "if looks could kill" AND "the burnt offering" for £9.99 each needless to say i bought them both and havent stopped lauging since

[Jarath]

Yeah I did forget Blind Al, shame on me. It would be great so see some more "Salt in Wade's tea" moments :)

I reread all my Cable and Deadpool and Agent X comics the other day. Next target is to reread my Deadpool issues, although I have so many holes in that series and it is so hard to find issues now, makes me a Sad Psycho-death-panda.

[MRGRAY]

So one way to kill a comic line is to KILL both the heros...but the question remains, is DEAPOOL really dead.

[Beast]

You mean the guy who regenerated from a puddle of blood one time? Yes, he's dead. ;)

[Grunty]

Deadpool survived things sometimes which where even more horrorbil then what Wolverine survived and that is already a pretty cruel list.

Also unlike Wolverine there is an official explanation on why Deadpool can't die.
When Wade was thrown out of weapon X and put into a prison where they experimented with the inmates, Wade who had nothing to lose anymore begann to take part in more and more experinemts not fearing dead anymore.

However this brought him the attention of Death who begann to have an intrest in him.
Thanos however didn't liked this and cursed Deadpool so he can never reach his beloved Death.
And because of this Deadpool always comes back.

Okay okay there are countless things in Deadpools history which are not entirely plausible and some where later retconed as fake. But its still a possible explanation which is already more then we have for Wolverine.

[Red Lotus]

Now I feel like reading Deadpool weapon X arc again. I love at the end that the only thing left was one hand which was given the Director the finger. :D Then they mailed that one hand to Wolverine warning him that he was next.

[CmX]

ZOMG now Cable AND Deadpool are dead! I bet KatePryde is gonna be bitchin hardcore now that NEITHER will ever come back to life ever again and their title is still running! :O

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Agent X out deadpools deadpool


Yeah, i said it

[MRGRAY]

You mean the guy who regenerated from a puddle of blood one time? Yes, he's dead. ;)

when didi this happen? I know of the whole thanos and death thing

[Deadpooligan]

However this brought him the attention of Death who begann to have an intrest in him.
Thanos however didn't liked this and cursed Deadpool so he can never reach his beloved Death.
And because of this Deadpool always comes back.

That 'cursed by Thanos' thing seems very tentative. Not that, until C&DP #43, he had so serious an injury as decapitation where it would come into play.

Agent X out deadpools deadpool


Yeah, i said it

Does not! Alex's healing factor is hella lame in comparison. He's like early '97 Deadpool at best.

when didi this happen? I know of the whole thanos and death thing

The first arc of Cable & Deadpool. The duo's DNA were breaking down from the Facade Virus, and Deadpool melted into a puddle.

[swollenpickles]

Now I feel like reading Deadpool weapon X arc again. I love at the end that the only thing left was one hand which was given the Director the finger. :D Then they mailed that one hand to Wolverine warning him that he was next.

Is that in TPB form??? I need it!!!

[Siddon]

There are four characters who will never die

Mr. Imortal
Wolverine
Deadpool
Kang

There is no point in even trying the killing them

[_Jayme_]

Deadpool isn't dead. Like others have said, he's survived 10x worse then this. I believe Cable may be dead for awhile though.

How weird is it that we're all pretty much referring to character's deaths as "awhile". :p

[Euks]

Deadpool survived things sometimes which where even more horrorbil then what Wolverine survived and that is already a pretty cruel list.

...

However this brought him the attention of Death who begann to have an intrest in him.
Thanos however didn't liked this and cursed Deadpool so he can never reach his beloved Death.
And because of this Deadpool always comes back.

From my understanding this is actually not entirely what the writer meant to do. Check out this thread:
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/archive/index.php/t-8478.html

I have no idea if that's the real author or not. But basically he says that Thanos wasn't supposed to make Deadpool immortal, Thanos was simply reviving Deadpool once so Deadpool couldn't reach Death (the person). I think there's a lot of confusion over this point, so most writers generally just avoid the topic all together. On the other hand, Deadpool recently looked for the Black Box to help him kill himself, so either Deadpool's healing factor is really good (which it is), or Deadpool is possibly immortal. My guess is his healing factor is just really good.

I think the real question is if Deadpool regenerates, will it be his head regenerating his body, or his body regenerating his head? What if both happen and there are then two Deadpools? Maybe they could rename the comic to Deadpool & Deadpool :D

[MRGRAY]

way off topic here but, i started this thread yesterday, and now it seems some else started this thread?? anyone??

I like the idea of two deadpools, and knowing that he's a bit of a comical fellow i could see one of them dressing up like cable and then we have our Dynamic Duo again, YEAH

[Karl H]

way off topic here but, i started this thread yesterday, and now it seems some else started this thread?? anyone??

I like the idea of two deadpools, and knowing that he's a bit of a comical fellow i could see one of them dressing up like cable and then we have our Dynamic Duo again, YEAH

Er no, this thread has been here months I'd suggest you read existing threads before making random new ones.

That goes to everyone else too!!!!!!

[JBKWaka]

Deadpool isn't dead. Like others have said, he's survived 10x worse then this. I believe Cable may be dead for awhile though.

How weird is it that we're all pretty much referring to character's deaths as "awhile". :p
But in this case we can make an exception because I'm pretty sure he wont stay dead for very long :rolleyes:

[Euks]

way off topic here but, i started this thread yesterday, and now it seems some else started this thread?? anyone??

I like the idea of two deadpools, and knowing that he's a bit of a comical fellow i could see one of them dressing up like cable and then we have our Dynamic Duo again, YEAH

Your thread got merged with the bigger, older Cable & Deadpool thread. The moderators like to keep things tidy around here, so if they feel a thread duplicates another thread, they'll just merge the two.

[MRGRAY]

Your thread got merged with the bigger, older Cable & Deadpool thread. The moderators like to keep things tidy around here, so if they feel a thread duplicates another thread, they'll just merge the two.


Thanks, i'm still new here not sure how everything works yet

[killerbass]

From my understanding this is actually not entirely what the writer meant to do. Check out this thread:
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/archive/index.php/t-8478.html

I have no idea if that's the real author or not.

Thanks for the link!

That cleared up some things in my mind...

--Tom

[killerbass]

Deadpool's Fabian Niceiza Answers Fan Questions (http://www.marvel.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=75211&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=23116cae67aee367968ca167e009b177)

That is all...

--Tom

[Brian M.]

While I've loved Deadpool in this series, I fear that w/o Cable to ground out some seriousness in Wade, I may begin to dislike him or find him rather one-dimensional.

[Sentinel K]

While I've loved Deadpool in this series, I fear that w/o Cable to ground out some seriousness in Wade, I may begin to dislike him or find him rather one-dimensional.

I wouldn't worry, I really don't see the title making it past #50.

:(

[ThunderKat]

Reilly Brown's sticking around right???

[Cthulhudrew]

While I've loved Deadpool in this series, I fear that w/o Cable to ground out some seriousness in Wade, I may begin to dislike him or find him rather one-dimensional.

He's had his serious moments in C/DP but, yeah, not too many. Unless Fabian decides to do a bit of what Kelly did with Deadpool during his much lauded run, then I'd tend to agree with you. Without a straight-man to bounce off of, a constantly cracking jokes Wade would get old after a while.

(A long while, but a while nevertheless.)

[Cthulhudrew]

Having just read that Q&A with Fabian, I wonder why he wasn't given an offer to crossover with World War Hulk? Seems odd. They did the crossover with other books like Ant-Man and Ghost Rider(?!?!). I'd have loved to have seen a Deadpool/Hulk reunion (although its questionable how much the Hulk recalls of their meeting in issue #3 or 4 of Kelly's run).

[Brian M.]

He's had his serious moments in C/DP but, yeah, not too many. Unless Fabian decides to do a bit of what Kelly did with Deadpool during his much lauded run, then I'd tend to agree with you. Without a straight-man to bounce off of, a constantly cracking jokes Wade would get old after a while.

(A long while, but a while nevertheless.)

I had high hopes for the arc right after CW. The one where Deadpool and T-Ray meet up. But sadly it didn't pan out. Still, this book is in my top 3.

[Euks]

Having just read that Q&A with Fabian, I wonder why he wasn't given an offer to crossover with World War Hulk? Seems odd. They did the crossover with other books like Ant-Man and Ghost Rider(?!?!). I'd have loved to have seen a Deadpool/Hulk reunion (although its questionable how much the Hulk recalls of their meeting in issue #3 or 4 of Kelly's run).

The conspiracy theorist in me says that they didn't have a tie in because they want to kill off the book. The realist in me says that C&D doesn't have much of a tie-in to World War Hulk, so I think any tie-in would be a bit of a stretch.

I'm glad to see Fabian talk about the book, and he does mention "for the foreseeable future", so I hope the book goes on. But at the same time a lot of what he talks about sounds like he can't make any long term plans because he's not sure of the future of the book. Also Fabian pronounced Cable as dead, so I don't think we'll see any Cable in the near future :(

[CmX]

Reilly Brown's sticking around right???

Yes darling he is.

[kate-pryde]

The conspiracy theorist in me says that they didn't have a tie in because they want to kill off the book.

Bob Weinberg's major complain against Marvel was they didn't promote his run on Cable, especially the return of Rachel Summers. Sales of Cable declined and Marvel used that to justify firing him.

If Marvel wanted to boost the sales of Cable & Deadpool, they could have easily promoted the last few Cable related issues and added a WWH tie-in. As Publishers Weekly's blog column said, they were thowing away money. If you want to talk conspiracy theories, it sounds like the Weinberg situation all over again. If sales are up, there is no reason to justify cancelling it.

[Brian M.]

There is no reason for CnD to tie into WWH. Name one possible way, one rational way for it can tie in and work. Even one issue? Deadpool takes it on himself and Agency X to try and stop the Hulk? That makes as much sense as the Ant-Man one.

It's not a damn conspircy.

[kate-pryde]

There is no reason for CnD to tie into WWH. Name one possible way, one rational way for it can tie in and work.


Deadpool gets the telepathic SOS call from the Stepfords that the X-Men needs help but shows up a couple hours too late. Poor Wade wants to prove that he is a superhero following Nate's death, so he tries to go after the Hulk, and fails miserably.

Most tie-ins make no sense. It's just a plot to increase sales. Except Cable & Deadpool seem left out of that equation and merely pulls the Wolverine guest appearance card.

[Euks]

There is no reason for CnD to tie into WWH. Name one possible way, one rational way for it can tie in and work. Even one issue? Deadpool takes it on himself and Agency X to try and stop the Hulk? That makes as much sense as the Ant-Man one.

It's not a damn conspircy.

Well that's why the realist in me said there's no reason for a tie in :)

But, given the absolute lack of publicity of the C&D tie ins with X-men and specifically X-men 200, there is some evidence backing up this theory. Just look at the sales numbers, and they're totally flat despite the tie in and Cable's death.

[CmX]

Bob Weinberg's major complain against Marvel was they didn't promote his run on Cable, especially the return of Rachel Summers. Sales of Cable declined and Marvel used that to justify firing him.

If Marvel wanted to boost the sales of Cable & Deadpool, they could have easily promoted the last few Cable related issues and added a WWH tie-in. As Publishers Weekly's blog column said, they were thowing away money. If you want to talk conspiracy theories, it sounds like the Weinberg situation all over again. If sales are up, there is no reason to justify cancelling it.

If Marvel really disliked Cable&Deadpool they would have cancelled it a long ass time ago. The sales have been pretty bad for a long time, and they did tie-into CW so it's not completely and totally neglected.

[Brian M.]

They advertised the first issue of the tie in w/ #200 but how do you advertise the 2nd one w/o pretty much giving away who dies? You could beat around the bush but you couldn't really hype it w/o giving away key plot points.

This stupid theory of conspircy is getting really old. "Marvel hates Cable". Yea that's why they've given him what...4 series? Yea I see the hate. It's just as illogical as the "Marvel hates CC".

[Jarath]

You can't dislike Deadpool, he's like a naughty puppy.

[Crimson]

While I've loved Deadpool in this series, I fear that w/o Cable to ground out some seriousness in Wade, I may begin to dislike him or find him rather one-dimensional.

For the next arc it seems we are getting Deadpool and a whole host of guest stars as straight men... it could work.

[Brian M.]

For the next arc it seems we are getting Deadpool and a whole host of guest stars as straight men... it could work.

I hope so. I'm gonna miss this book. I wonder if it really is ending at #50.

[Doom Hammer]

While I've loved Deadpool in this series, I fear that w/o Cable to ground out some seriousness in Wade, I may begin to dislike him or find him rather one-dimensional.

Deadpool, by himself, is one of the most multi-dimensional super-hero characters I can think of. Of course, all his depth and struggles are pretty much marginalized by the revelation that he is, in fact, the real Wade Wilson, and the resulting mini-revelation that he is not, in fact, as interesting as you thought he was.

Apparently he's just another victimized character. Victimized by his upbringing, T-Ray, Weapon X, and blah, blah, blah. He's wacky Wolverine.

Honest to God, I don't get it. Arguably the BEST moment of this entire series was when Deadpool killed a softening terrorist leader; not because he needed justice, but because he has in his past been a monstrous prick, and a killer, and he can kill who he wants. How many mainstream super-heroes can do that with a smile? And this moment was so great because it defined Deadpool, inclusive of his surprising origin.

But now he's been dragged in the opposite direction, and his victim complex isn't just an excuse, and he's not really a bad guy, it's the fault of others, or something. Maybe you have a nice-guy character now, but you lost a highly entertaining and equally compelling character who could carry his own book.

[Jarath]

Deadpool, by himself, is one of the most multi-dimensional super-hero characters I can think of. Of course, all his depth and struggles are pretty much marginalized by the revelation that he is, in fact, the real Wade Wilson, and the resulting mini-revelation that he is not, in fact, as interesting as you thought he was.

Apparently he's just another victimized character. Victimized by his upbringing, T-Ray, Weapon X, and blah, blah, blah. He's wacky Wolverine.

Honest to God, I don't get it. Arguably the BEST moment of this entire series was when Deadpool killed a softening terrorist leader; not because he needed justice, but because he has in his past been a monstrous prick, and a killer, and he can kill who he wants. How many mainstream super-heroes can do that with a smile? And this moment was so great because it defined Deadpool, inclusive of his surprising origin.

But now he's been dragged in the opposite direction, and his victim complex isn't just an excuse, and he's not really a bad guy, it's the fault of others, or something. Maybe you have a nice-guy character now, but you lost a highly entertaining and equally compelling character who could carry his own book.

I disagree, you don't see Wade running around being all emo and blaming his life on his parents, weapon x or anything else. Sure he doesn't take the blame for things but he certainly doesn't shift the blame either.

For instance the issue which revolved around his dad who he never really talks about. He lied to Cable and said that his dad was horrible when all his dad wanted was the best for him and that he screwed it up himself.

The issue in which Cable causes him to see everyone he has killed and face his demons head on shows us more of this side to Wade. And he comes to the realisation that he's not a bad person through and through he just stopped caring and lost his way at some point.

I loved Kelly and Simone's runs on Deadpool, but I think Fabe has done an even better job turning Deadpool into a multilayered cake.

P.S. I enjoyed the "Deadpool Vs The Hulk" bit in the interview. Going to have go read the issue where that does happen again not revisited it in a while.

[Cthulhudrew]

The realist in me says that C&D doesn't have much of a tie-in to World War Hulk, so I think any tie-in would be a bit of a stretch.

Pre-Messiah Complex, I'd say they had a perfect tie-in, but yeah- with Cable gone, they'd have to be a bit more creative. (I suppose Deadpool could be called in due to his Initiative ties, perhaps- he is a sort of reservist on the GLI).

Also Fabian pronounced Cable as dead, so I don't think we'll see any Cable in the near future :(

Didn't he also say that Baron Zemo was dead at one point? (When Scourge cut his head off?) And he's brought that guy back several times. I think Fabian's smart enough to play his cards close to the chest if there's something going on that might get spoiled.

[CmX]

Pre-Messiah Complex, I'd say they had a perfect tie-in, but yeah- with Cable gone, they'd have to be a bit more creative. (I suppose Deadpool could be called in due to his Initiative ties, perhaps- he is a sort of reservist on the GLI).



Didn't he also say that Baron Zemo was dead at one point? (When Scourge cut his head off?) And he's brought that guy back several times. I think Fabian's smart enough to play his cards close to the chest if there's something going on that might get spoiled.

Not to mention of course they're going to say he's dead what are they going to say, "No guys! We wrote this death scene, but dont' worry yall he'll be back by Messiah Complex! Just letting you know we're ruining the climax for ya!"

[Cthulhudrew]

There is no reason for CnD to tie into WWH. Name one possible way, one rational way for it can tie in and work. Even one issue?

There are many possible ways, and even some rational ones (though, given it's Deadpool, I don't think rationality need be a factor). He's a sort-of reserve member of the Great Lakes Initiative, and so might be called in. Maybe he decides to team up with the Hulk and his crew for some butt-kicking?

Heck, DP's apartment is in New York City, so there's motive for him right there- just plain curiosity over why Bamboleo Mexican's is shut down and he can't get himself a chimichanga.

[Euks]

They advertised the first issue of the tie in w/ #200 but how do you advertise the 2nd one w/o pretty much giving away who dies? You could beat around the bush but you couldn't really hype it w/o giving away key plot points.

This stupid theory of conspircy is getting really old. "Marvel hates Cable". Yea that's why they've given him what...4 series? Yea I see the hate. It's just as illogical as the "Marvel hates CC".

But it was already known and stated that it was a tie-in. The entire thing happens on Cable's island of Providence, you expect it to be a tie-in. Cable fights Gambit and Sunfire, and it was basically already said that they were coming back. Deadpool fights an Acolyte. There were plenty of things that could have been mentioned, hyped, or tied in to X-men 200. But the sales numbers were absolutely flat. Here's some numbers (and the guy basically confirms what I've been saying): http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/07/19/marvel-month-to-month-sales-june-2007/#more-3060

X-men sales jumped nearly 80 percent from issue 200. There absolutely would have been spill-over to C&D if they had advertised it. I'm not saying Marvel hates Cable, but rather Marvel has its big guns and sticks to them. In the best interest of the company, that's probably what it should do. But for people like us who like some of the smaller comics, it sometimes sucks :(

[Euks]

Didn't he also say that Baron Zemo was dead at one point? (When Scourge cut his head off?) And he's brought that guy back several times. I think Fabian's smart enough to play his cards close to the chest if there's something going on that might get spoiled.

I haven't really followed Fabe's other stuff, so I don't know about Baron Zemo. Was that at least a character he decided to kill though? It seems like Cable's fate was totally taken out of his hands.

Not to mention of course they're going to say he's dead what are they going to say, "No guys! We wrote this death scene, but dont' worry yall he'll be back by Messiah Complex! Just letting you know we're ruining the climax for ya!"

That's true. But at the same time Axel Alonso has always been saying he has "big plans" for Cable (which he re-iterated at SDCC). So it seems like he could've at least referenced that. Of course there's the possibility that Marvel or the X-editors are telling him to keep with the company line that Cable is dead.

[kate-pryde]

I'm starting to wonder if Axel Alonso's big plans for Cable involve killing off Cable and bringing back Nate Grey some how as a replacement. Not that they are the same character, but I doubt someone like Alonso understands the difference. :rolleyes:

If that's the plan, then there's no reason to advertise Cable & Deadpool, especially if it is being cancelled at #50. The low sales justify the cancellations. And Endangered Species is what's being promoted now. More tie-ins would probably bring more complains from readers who hate having to buy all the crossovers. So Cable & Deadpool gets hung out to dry.

It's not like anyone is acting like Cable could possibly be alive and for Cable fans to even stick around and keep reading. :(

[rwsmith]

If Cable does come back, I hope he is fundamentally changed in several ways:

1) I hope he loses the cybernetic left arm. Why? The Winter Soldier has the same gimmick, and he seems to be getting the bigger push from Marvel these days. I know Nate had it first, but it's not integral to his character. The techno-organics could be completely integrated throughout his body, thus making his muscle tissue and organs denser and more durable, as well as increasing his strength, stamina and reaction times. They shouldn't just be concentrated on his left side. Either that, or have him come back in a new body with no techno-organics whatsoever.

2) Keep his powers either at a very low-level or non-existent. I'm with kate-pryde in that I don't want to see X-man running around in Cable's place, or even a gray-haired version of Nate that looks like Cable. I want the commando badass Cable who uses guns, knives, grenades, psimitar and hand-to-hand combat to get the job done.

3) Keep him gray-haired and muscular. Again, don't make him younger and prettier (a la X-man). He should be a freakin' tank IMO! As Mike Carey said, he's the closest thing the X-men have to a paramilitary unit. When he first debuted, he was older and grizzled and almost as hairy as Wolverine. Don't try to pretty the guy up.

All of this could be accomplished by Nate's consciousness inhabiting a cloned body that Sinister has whipped up for him and accelerated to his current age. His power levels would be cranked all the way up without the T-O virus, but perhaps Nate could have Forge whip up a nannite cocktail that would effectively neutralize the portion of his brain that gives him his powers---permanently! Or perhaps just disable most of that portion of his brain so that his powers remain low-level and he doesn't run the risk of burning his body out. I'd suggest him using the same nano-Sentinels that gave Fantomex and Weapons XII - XV their powers to do this. That way, those same nannites can enhance his strength, durability, reflexes, etc. in the same way as the techno-organics did.

Perhaps I'm over-thinking this, but I think that a Cable without techno-organics eating his body and with low-level (or nonexistent) TK and TP would be more interesting. He'd be a lot more simple as a concept if he's just a badass mutant soldier with nanotechnology in his bloodstream that makes him more than human (and, perhaps some low-level mutant abilities). Nanotech is an easier sell to the mainstream than techno-organics (which no one outside of comic books has ever heard of), and a non-uber powered Cable would be closer to the early 90's version that was so popular when he debuted.

Just my thoughts on the character.

[Brian M.]

I want Jean to bring him back. Jean Grey arrives back holding a baby, a baby infected by the TO virus. The same baby she grabbed from the Askani in the timestream. Give Scott a real chance to raise his son.

[rwsmith]

But then we still don't have Cable. Just baby Nathan. And how could he survive the T-O virus as an infant in this timeline? Isn't that why they took him to the future? Because he couldn't survive here?

If he comes back as an infant, it should be without the T-O virus IMO. After all, Jean's the Phoenix. She can just "burn away what doesn't work." That should include the T-O virus.

[Brian M.]

But then we still don't have Cable. Just baby Nathan. And how could he survive the T-O virus as an infant in this timeline? Isn't that why they took him to the future? Because he couldn't survive here?

If he comes back as an infant, it should be without the T-O virus IMO. After all, Jean's the Phoenix. She can just "burn away what doesn't work." That should include the T-O virus.

Well yea, I know. I figured if Jean brought him back it would be for a good reason, since you know, she was there when he was given to Askani. It may not bring back the Cable everyone knows, but it's how i'd like to see it. Give Scott a chance to be a father. An aspect that I think would greatly increase his character.

[kate-pryde]

Once Rachel had contained the TO Virus in Baby Nathan in the Askani future, all Jean had to do was train Nate to use his TK to hold it back. That could have been done in this time as easily as it could have been done in the future.

I wouldn't mind seeing Baby Nathan return, just as long as it's really Nathan Christopher Charles Summers and not Nate Grey.

Scott redeeming himself as a good father would go a long way to redeeming his character.

[rwsmith]

But then he can't kick ass! He'll just poo his diapers and drool.

Having said that, Deadpool stopping by to babysit could make for some funny stories.;)

[Brian M.]

But then he can't kick ass! He'll just poo his diapers and drool.

Having said that, Deadpool stopping by to babysit could make for some funny stories.;)

Yea, maybe at the end of CnD the X-Men could license out work to Agency X. Bringing Deadpool in to try and redeem himself, like Angel did in that Buffy show.

[rwsmith]

I could just see Cyclops' horror as he walks in on Wade teaching an infant Nathan how to fire a gun or something.

[killerbass]

From this article: http://www.newsarama.com/Chicago_07/Marvel/X-Men/panel.html

"Deadpool is a character that Axel has had a mad-on for,” said C.B. in response to a fan’s question, “However, he’ll remain tied to his book for the time being.”

So pardon my lack of knowledge of the term "mad-on". Can I assume this means that Axel Alonso hates Deadpool?

--Tom

[Sentinel K]

From this article: http://www.newsarama.com/Chicago_07/Marvel/X-Men/panel.html

"Deadpool is a character that Axel has had a mad-on for,” said C.B. in response to a fan’s question, “However, he’ll remain tied to his book for the time being.”

So pardon my lack of knowledge of the term "mad-on". Can I assume this means that Axel Alsonso hates Deadpool?

--Tom

I would assume it's the other way round and that he really likes him. i could be wrong though.

No Bob agent of HYDRA though. :(

[Jarath]

Mad-on means that he is somewhat obsessed with Deadpool and it sounds like he would like to see Deadpool appear in more books.

Cable is coming back :)

Hopefully Bob will at least stick around in CnD.

[killerbass]

Hopefully Bob will at least stick around in CnD.

So long as the lovely and talented Fabian Nicieza is writing, I think Bob will continue to appear...

--Tom

[Brian M.]

It's a conspircy!!! Marvel hates Cable!!!

Wait...what?
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He is?
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He's not dead?
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oh...akward.

[Slung]

From this article: http://www.newsarama.com/Chicago_07/Marvel/X-Men/panel.html

"Deadpool is a character that Axel has had a mad-on for,” said C.B. in response to a fan’s question, “However, he’ll remain tied to his book for the time being.”

So pardon my lack of knowledge of the term "mad-on". Can I assume this means that Axel Alsonso hates Deadpool?

--Tom

Whenever "mad-on" is used in comics - it usually is a PG way of saying "hard-on"...

[Euks]

It's a conspircy!!! Marvel hates Cable!!!

Wait...what?
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He is?
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He's not dead?
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oh...akward.

So long as C&D lives on I'll be happy :)

[Craig T. Nelson]

Same here.

[Carencey]

I wouldn't mind Deadpool going off on his own in a solo series and Cable reforming X-Force with both occassionally guest appearing.

[Doom Hammer]

I disagree, you don't see Wade running around being all emo and blaming his life on his parents, weapon x or anything else. Sure he doesn't take the blame for things but he certainly doesn't shift the blame either.

No, he doesn't "run around" doing these things, but it's implicit. Bottom line is he has been victimized in his life, but he has never been able to legitimately blame others for his hardships because he's so self-destructive. When you take away his greatest example of self-destruction, where he literally deconstructs his own personality, you're apparently left with a kid who has a few acting-out issues who is ultimately a victim. Plus, reversing his and T-Ray's identities means his happy life was destroyed by T-Ray, so he's even more of a victim. He's Wolverine. Troubled youth, Weapon X manipulation, chance at a happy life shattered by outside forces. His true identity as a manipualtive killer constantly trying to better himself at least made him unique.

As far as a replacement storyline, his youthful indiscretions hardly match the way he obliterated the Wilsons' life as far as compelling twists go.

For instance the issue which revolved around his dad who he never really talks about. He lied to Cable and said that his dad was horrible when all his dad wanted was the best for him and that he screwed it up himself.

To me, by itself, that storyline is incredibly boring. Seriously, his former stature as a spikey-haired punk is nowhere near as compelling as the story that was laid down before. In addition to the original story, it works, showing a trend of self-destruction. Alone? It makes him seem like he was a whiney attention-whore with Daddy issues. I just don't see anything that Fabian has added that has been worth getting rid of the old plot-line; he's had some great ideas but none of them are contingent on Deadpool being the real Wade Wilson, and in my eyes, they're actually diminished by this revelation.

The issue in which Cable causes him to see everyone he has killed and face his demons head on shows us more of this side to Wade. And he comes to the realisation that he's not a bad person through and through he just stopped caring and lost his way at some point.

I missed that issue, but I don't think I'd have liked it. Last time he faced everyone he ever killed, he expressed no regret, and in fact expressed his desire to go back in time, impregnate the mothers of his victims to ensure their conception, and then kill them again. He then "died" fighting them in a blaze of glory. Would've been a good ending.

I loved Kelly and Simone's runs on Deadpool, but I think Fabe has done an even better job turning Deadpool into a multilayered cake.

That's cool. Although clearly, I disagree. There is NO reason that the old storyline had to be reversed, no BETTER storyline has replaced it, and no aspect of Deadpool's history that Fabian has introduced wouldn't have worked if he had changed nothing about the first origin.

[Cthulhudrew]

Gotta agree with Doom Hammer. Much as I enjoy C/DP, and Fabian, and Fabian writing C/DP, I think that the Kelly revelation of Wade not being Wade was a great storyline, and prefer to think of that as the true history of our favorite Merc With A Mouth.

Fabian's story left it a little bit vague (not quite as vague as I think he suggested, but a little bit), and it at least had the effect of bringing T-Ray back from the horrific Tieri storyline that initially undid the Wade/T-Ray origin (at least that was it's intent, despite the incredibly nonsensical way in which it was attempted).

Still, though- I think Wade is more interesting as "alias Wade" rather than actually being the real Wilson.

[MRGRAY]

I have a question i can't seem to find the answer to on my own, How many issues was Deadpools first comic line....i know it's more than 60 , anyone??

[killerbass]

What is 69, plus two annuals, Alex?

I'll take Deadpool questions for four hundred...

--Tom

[Lanowar]

And I'll take Penis Mightier for $500...wait thats Pen Is Mightier ah well...

Deadpool's solo stuff is

The Circle Chase- 4 Issue Mini
Sins Of The Past- 4 Issue Mini

Then it's the big 69 Issue series that included Agent Of Weapon X & Funeral For A Freak

[killerbass]

Hey Kids--

Here's a link to Ryan Reynolds talking about playing Deadpool, from 2007!

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3115&Itemid=99

Just too cool for words!

(Sorry if it's slightly off topic!) :D

--Tom

[ClanAskani]

Skottie Young posted on his blog about the Cable & Deadpool #47 cover:

http://skottieyoung.blogspot.com/2007/08/strange-days.html

[booga]

wow, and i mean WOW

that guys ability to make a beautiful piece of work is so good

i'd like to see that loose, rough style he's been doing with the covers in an interior of a comic so we could see if it would work or not

[killerbass]

Did anyone notice that our buddy Deadpool finished 17th in the Top 50 Marvel Characters (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/20/top-50-marvel-characters-20-16/)?

And yeah, I'm the Tom who wrote the fan blurb on Deadpool. (Be nice; or at least try to...)

Come on Marvel -- give Deadpool his own book! (And Deadpool Essentials Vol. 1, too!)

--Tom

[Sentinel K]

Did anyone notice that our buddy Deadpool finished 17th in the Top 50 Marvel Characters (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/20/top-50-marvel-characters-20-16/)?

And yeah, I'm the Tom who wrote the fan blurb on Deadpool. (Be nice; or at least try to...)

Come on Marvel -- give Deadpool his own book! (And Deadpool Essentials Vol. 1, too!)

--Tom

Cool. I'm the Pete who talked about Madrox.

I voted for Deadpool though! I seriously thought he wasn't gonna place but 17th is AMAZING!

[Deadpooligan]

Did anyone notice that our buddy Deadpool finished 17th in the Top 50 Marvel Characters (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/20/top-50-marvel-characters-20-16/)?

And yeah, I'm the Tom who wrote the fan blurb on Deadpool. (Be nice; or at least try to...)

Come on Marvel -- give Deadpool his own book! (And Deadpool Essentials Vol. 1, too!)

--Tom

He still would have been 17th if I had voted. ALL RIGHT! TOP 20! WOOHOO!

Tom, that blurb was totally schweet.

And to answer a question I missed:

I have a question i can't seem to find the answer to on my own, How many issues was Deadpools first comic line....i know it's more than 60 , anyone??

New Mutants #98
4 Issue Mini - The Circle Chase
Another 4 issue Mini - Sins of the Past
Slew of 90's guest apperances... mainly early X-Force...
1997! - Deapool #1-69, two annuals, plus 0, -1, and three specials!
Contest of Champions II #1-5
Agent X #1-15
Identity Disc #1-5
Cable & Deadpool #1-50
And another recent slew of guest appearances.

[Constantinople]

So, since Cable and Deadpool is going to end at #50, and Cable's going to get another ongoing after all this Messiah-arc business, what's happening to our favourite Merc with a Mouth? Will he be getting another on-going? Or, like Antman, will he move over into another comic?

[Accroître]

I just finished reading the newest Wizard about X-Men Messiah Complex. In the interview...I forget which one said, Cable is dead. So how is he getting another series. I am beyond confused about this. Cable is awesome...so I am very happy he is coming back...but how is he coming back if he is dead?

Sure wish Marvel would stop killing good characters for shock value or whatever you want to call it.

[Brian M.]

Well...he may not even be dead. It's not a retcon if it's planned all along.

[Sentinel K]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12032

[Sentinel K]

Some interesting quotes from fabian about the 'cancellation'.

“There's an X-Men crossover coming up? Didn't know about it,” Nicieza said. “They kept our last crossover such a great secret from everyone else that this one ended up being a secret from me! Wow, these marketing guys can teach the CIA a few tricks.”

And he won't be doing the final 2 issues which is tragic! I can't believe he's brought us all this way and won't be finishing it himself.

[Brian M.]

Some interesting quotes from fabian about the 'cancellation'.

“There's an X-Men crossover coming up? Didn't know about it,” Nicieza said. “They kept our last crossover such a great secret from everyone else that this one ended up being a secret from me! Wow, these marketing guys can teach the CIA a few tricks.”

And he won't be doing the final 2 issues which is tragic! I can't believe he's brought us all this way and won't be finishing it himself.

Are you fucking kidding me? Who the fuck is writing the last two issues? What bullshit is this.

[Nyssane]

Are you fucking kidding me? Who the fuck is writing the last two issues? What bullshit is this.

Fabey said it's someone trustworthy!

I hope the last issue features a WadexBob man kiss. While Anaconda watches and takes pictures and blackmails them into being her sex slaves. That's how I would write the last two issues. Hey, maybe I AM the writer!!! ;)

[Fatguy]

Yea, its sad he wont have done all 50 issues.

I wonder what his big 2008 project is, maybe a Deadpool & Bob series? :D

[Murrocko]

I wonder what his big 2008 project is, maybe a Deadpool & Bob series? :D

Agency X! Agency X!?

[killerbass]

My prediction: Fabian's headed for the Distinguished Competition...

--Tom

P.S. I double checked my spelling. :D

[Brian M.]

My prediction: Fabian's headed for the Distinguished Competition...

--Tom

P.S. I double checked my spelling. :D

Hopefully they'll treat him better.

[Sentinel K]

Heh.

Anyone wanna be 'friends' with Bob?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=243466661

[Trey]

He chose not to write the last 2 because he has so many other projects coming up.

However it is should have Deadpool marry Bob so he can avoid deportation to Canada. The last page of #50 is the two heading off to Jamaica for a well-deserved honeymoon.

[swollenpickles]

Where's Deadpool going to end up?? He needs his own series. Team him up with Ant-man :D

[Sentinel K]

#46 Highlights

"Does my sister even HAVE a bosom?"


"I'm sorry, Im rambling I can't control the exclamation points!"


"If you can't see them, they can't see you."

"We can see you"


"What...? Kirby/Sinnot... This is like 1967, right?"

"I have no idea what you're talking about"


"By the onion rings of Rangoon!"



Man i laughed my ass off. I'm so gonna miss this title. :(

[Ullar]

I hope marvel makes an Agency X series

[killerbass]

I hope marvel makes an Agency X series

It sure looks like that's what Fabian is setting up, but you know what they say about counting your eggs before they are hatched.

In other news, still no word on who is writing issues 49 & 50.

--Tom

[Carencey]

Is Cable going to return to Cable & Deadpool before it ends or will it be all Deadpool?

[killerbass]

Is Cable going to return to Cable & Deadpool before it ends or will it be all Deadpool?

I guess that's the other $64,000 question.

Oh, and was Deadpool (really Fabian, writing as DP on the letters page) joking when he said that he would be combining with a symbiote in issue #50?

Time will tell. Enjoy every sandwich (& issue) until you know, sniff, the end.

--Tom

[Carencey]

I hope Cable atleast makes a fair well appearance. The adventures of Deadpool & Bob are fine, but it's sad not to see Cable in his own book.

[killerbass]

I hope Cable atleast makes a fair well appearance. The adventures of Deadpool & Bob are fine, but it's sad not to see Cable in his own book.

I am sure there will at least be a statue of him. :D

I know when I talked to Mike Carey last February at Megacon, he was coordinating with Fabian on the X-Men/CDP crossover.

Hopefully they are working out Cable's return by issue 50.

And hopefully they are planning on an Agency X book, or DP joining X-Factor, or a DP on an Avengers team, or something.

Let's hope to god that he's not in that awful Wolverine Origins.







(Yeah, I know. Deadpool's going to be in it...)

--Tom

[pariah-1972]

i'm pretty easy i don't care what happens as long as Deadpool has his own book and it has great writing and art.
whats the worst that could happen? we know Bendis isn't going to write it and Chuck Austin and Rob Liefeld are practically Pariahs at marvel.
the worst that could happen is maybe Frank Tieri.

[killerbass]

the worst that could happen is maybe Frank Tieri.

He's exclusive to DC now, I believe.

I hope it's Joe Kelly, I hope it's Joe Kelly....

--Tom

[pariah-1972]

He's exclusive to DC now, I believe.

I hope it's Joe Kelly, I hope it's Joe Kelly....
--TomWhen you first said that i was like "Wtf" then i remembered that DC keeps going for the grim and gritty shite over and over, still it would be weird to see him on a book like Superman which of course would never happen.
what book is he doin anyways?

[cable guy]

I hope Cable atleast makes a fair well appearance. The adventures of Deadpool & Bob are fine, but it's sad not to see Cable in his own book.


I hope so.

[killerbass]

Hey Kids--

I am re-reading Cable & Deadpool back issues and I have come across a reference that I can't seem to figure out.

Who are the "Lombardi twins" that Deadpool refers to? I did a quick Google and a quick Wikipedia search, and I couldn't figure out who they are/were?

Thanks in advance,
Tom

[Nyssane]

Hey Kids--

I am re-reading Cable & Deadpool back issues and I have come across a reference that I can't seem to figure out.

Who are the "Lombardi twins" that Deadpool refers to? I did a quick Google and a quick Wikipedia search, and I couldn't figure out who they are/were?

Thanks in advance,
Tom

No clue. :( But isn't Anaconda hella rad? Thoroughly Modern Millie rocks my socks.

[killerbass]

No clue. :( But isn't Anaconda hella rad? Thoroughly Modern Millie rocks my socks.

I am working my way to Anaconda... (Thanks for the reply Nyssane...)

The issue in question is issue #15.

Fabian, are you still around? (We miss you, around these parts...)

--Tom

[Mort]

The Marvel shipping list (on their website) says Fabian is writing issue 49, then the last issue is Reilly Brown (the penciller) writing it WITH Fabian.

[killerbass]

Reilly Brown as the (co-)writer of the last two issues?

Wow, that was unexpected! I have corresponded with Reilly, and I can vouch for the fact that he can indeed write a sentence. Oh yeah, his email didn't have any spelling mistakes either.

If I understand the situation correctly, Fabian already had the plots for issues 49 & 50. Reilly's going to have to flesh out the story and write the dialogue.

Well this sounds good to me; it'll be interesting to see how Deadpool's quips compare with a 20-something writer, as opposed to the usual 40-something writer.

Besides, issue 50 has got symbiotes and dinosaurs! 'Nuff said.

--Tom

[pariah-1972]

Reilly Brown as the (co-)writer of the last two issues?

Wow, that was unexpected! I have corresponded with Reilly, and I can vouch for the fact that he can indeed write a sentence. Oh yeah, his email didn't have any spelling mistakes either.

If I understand the situation correctly, Fabian already had the plots for issues 49 & 50. Reilly's going to have to flesh out the story and write the dialogue.

Well this sounds good to me; it'll be interesting to see how Deadpool's quips compare with a 20-something writer, as opposed to the usual 40-something writer.

Besides, issue 50 has got symbiotes and dinosaurs! 'Nuff said.

--TomAre they cancelling it after 5o?

[kate-pryde]

Besides, issue 50 has got symbiotes and dinosaurs! 'Nuff said.


Yeah, but will it have Cable? Afterall, his name is on the cover. It's kinda sad to see Cable & Deadpool's final issue without Cable anywhere in sight, especially with all the speculation that the Cable that's returning is the same Cable. :(

[killerbass]

Are they cancelling it after 5o?

Sadly, yes.

--Tom

[killerbass]

Yeah, but will it have Cable? Afterall, his name is on the cover. It's kinda sad to see Cable & Deadpool's final issue without Cable anywhere in sight, especially with all the speculation that the Cable that's returning is the same Cable. :(

I have no inside knowledge. (Reilly is always very professional...)

My guess, Cable is a last page (or two) surprise in issue 50.

But, like I said, it's just a guess.

--Tom

[pariah-1972]

Sadly, yes.

--TomNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[killerbass]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

If it makes you feel any better, senior Marvel editor Axel Alonso has said that the upcoming arc in Wolverine Origins will deal with what's going to happen next in the life of Deadpool.

I am still undecided as to whether I am going to buy the Cable ongoing when it debuts...

--Tom

[pariah-1972]

If it makes you feel any better, senior Marvel editor Axel Alonso has said that the upcoming arc in Wolverine Origins will deal with what's going to happen next in the life of Deadpool.

I am still undecided as to whether I am going to buy the Cable ongoing when it debuts...

--Tom Dude thats even freaking worse i hate hate hate Wolverine Origins:mad:

[killerbass]

Dude thats even freaking worse i hate hate hate Wolverine Origins:mad:

Dem's de breaks. (Or so they say in Brooklyn...)

--Tom (although I am not that fond of the one issue of Wolverine Origins that I own)

[CmX]

Yeah, but will it have Cable? Afterall, his name is on the cover. It's kinda sad to see Cable & Deadpool's final issue without Cable anywhere in sight, especially with all the speculation that the Cable that's returning is the same Cable. :(

Ugh get over it arleady. He's coming back with a new series what more do you want? Geez.

[CMBMOOL]

Ugh get over it arleady. He's coming back with a new series what more do you want? Geez.

More Deadpool. :(

[Rollo_Tomasi]

Dude thats even freaking worse i hate hate hate Wolverine Origins:mad:

The Bianchi covers may be worth it...

[Sentinel K]

The Bianchi covers may be worth it...

I'd agree if i didn't think they were awful.

And I really don't trust Daniel Way with Deadpool.

[pariah-1972]

The Bianchi covers may be worth it...
I'm not yet sold on his work unfortunately:(
i dont know why but i just cant get used to seeing painted comics,
but there was also a lot of better looking artwork on his website imo.

[ANewHope]

OK!! What happens at the end of C&D 39 to T-Ray??

Deadpool thinks "This is exactly the kind of Moral Conflict I cant stand!!"


Did we miss out on a frame here?? when a sword suddenly appears partially inserted in T-Ray's head?


!!!!!!!!!!!! am I missing something???


yeah my imagination tells me that deadpool put the sword in T-Rays head, but wow, the finishing move is probably the most important part of all fights..

We get a cool resolution of T-Ray teleporting out, but no cool finishing move in action ...!!!....!!!!...!!!

[Nyssane]

Someone posted on wikipedia that IGN said Bob, Agent of HYDRA is so popular he's getting his own mini-series. How reliable that is, I dunno. But I would sure cream my panties.

[killerbass]

Someone posted on wikipedia that IGN said Bob, Agent of HYDRA is so popular he's getting his own mini-series. How reliable that is, I dunno. But I would sure cream my panties.

First off, I would buy that series if it were to happen.

But it really looks like Fabian is headed for the Distinguished Competition, and Joe Q is on record (somewhat recently) as a no go.

--Tom

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Deadpool in new Wolverine movie??

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=200788
click

[Red Lotus]

More Deadpool. :(

Is it delusional for me to still hold out for the hope that they will announce a new Deadpool ongoing.

[Kusanagi]

Great issue this month. Deadpool's marvel heroes were hilarious. "I don't I like Blackbolt me" "..."

[Omega Alpha]

Great issue this month. Deadpool's marvel heroes were hilarious. "I don't I like Blackbolt me" "..."

And he's going to order his brain cells to register!

[Dr. Chaos]

And he's going to order his brain cells to register!
Despite the fact that I'm pissed the series is ending and the dud of the duo is getting his own series, I can let it die happy having seen that whole face off.

Iron-Deadpool? Blackpool? Mr. Deadpool? Deadthor? Dead-Mariner?

**** yes.

[killerbass]

Despite the fact that I'm pissed the series is ending and the dud of the duo is getting his own series, I can let it die happy having seen that whole face off.

Iron-Deadpool? Blackpool? Mr. Deadpool? Deadthor? Dead-Mariner?

**** yes.

Can somebody be so kind as to post a summary? (In a new thread perhaps?)

My store got shorted and I am still without my beloved CDP...

Thanks,
Tom

[bigtreydawg]

Is it delusional for me to still hold out for the hope that they will announce a new Deadpool ongoing.

I liked when writers made deadpool more serious(as serious as you can make him). When he acknowledges he is a comic book character it makes it hard to give him an in continuity storyline with any affect on the marvel universe

[DoctorDoom]

At least the Pool man will liven up Wolverine Origins.

[bigtreydawg]

At least the Pool man will liven up Wolverine Origins.

I didn't see that one coming

[Deadpooligan]

Though I thoroughly enjoyed this month's ish (yay not having to choose between Fabes or Kelly!), I am saddened at the most minute of details.

Deadpool Thor didn't look like Thorpool! (Or Beta Ray Wade...) (http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5417/dpthorcostumebl4.jpg)!

Bah, Deadpool in Thor's new armor far pales in comparison to the awesomeness of Thorpool. That costume ruled!

The scene where Brother Voodoo straight up tells Deadpool that he doesn't have a soul is pure gold.

[Ann Nichols]

<snip>The scene where Brother Voodoo straight up tells Deadpool that he doesn't have a soul is pure gold.

It certainly stunned me.

[Rollo_Tomasi]

i just read something about Way and Dillon leaving wolverine origins to do a deadpool ongoing. the great news is deadpool will have his own title. the bad news is Way will be writing it.

[Sentinel K]

i just read something about Way and Dillon leaving wolverine origins to do a deadpool ongoing. the great news is deadpool will have his own title. the bad news is Way will be writing it.

Don't believe you.

[Rollo_Tomasi]

Don't believe you.

check the latest issue of Wizard Magazine.

[Sentinel K]

check the latest issue of Wizard Magazine.

If it was written in Wizard it MUST be true!

No way in hell Way would abandon Wolverine: Origins.

[Waterlily]

If it was written in Wizard it MUST be true!

No way in hell Way would abandon Wolverine: Origins.

I suppose he could write both titles...

But that would be, wow, that would be really f****d up. I'm still trying to envision Way incorporarting Deadpool into ever angsty Origins and coming up blank. I really can't picture him writing a Deadpool ongoing. I dunno though, maybe he can really do comedy. Guess we'll see.

[pariah-1972]

I suppose he could write both titles...

But that would be, wow, that would be really f****d up. I'm still trying to envision Way incorporarting Deadpool into ever angsty Origins and coming up blank. I really can't picture him writing a Deadpool ongoing. I dunno though, maybe he can really do comedy. Guess we'll see.I pray to the heavens that this is not true !

[rwsmith]

If it was written in Wizard it MUST be true!

No way in hell Way would abandon Wolverine: Origins.

Well, I believe Wizard does come out this Friday, so it could be true. And with Origins steadily slipping in the sales department maybe Marvel decided to hand the book over to someone else.

This would actually make sense on a lot of levels, as Mark Millar has dropped several hints over on his message board about returning to a book that he has worked on previously (with Steve McNiven doing the art on this particular title). And from the clues he has dropped, it sounds a lot like he's doing Wolverine. The only problem is that his run starts in June. Well, the Jason Aaron / Ron Garney arc will be wrapping up in May, but C.B. Cebulski and Dave Finch were scheduled to follow behind them with a 4-issue arc.

Where am I going with this? Perhaps Cebulski and Finch are jumping over to Wolverine: Origins (Finch has said numerous times that he's a huge fan of the brown Wolverine costume), which would then allow Millar and McNiven to take over Wolverine in June.

Probably too good to be true, but if this happened I would probably piss myself. Seriously. Those two creative teams on both of Wolverine's solo titles at the same time would be absolutely incredible! Millar is a fan of finite runs, so Wolverine would probably continue to have different creative teams shuffling in and out; however, Cebulski and Finch on Origins for the long haul would rock. Finch will need a fill-in, though, as he can't do monthly. Hopefully someone like Billy Tan or Chris Bachalo (Tan would be better because his style is more similar, but Bachalo is awesome nonetheless, so either would work IMO).

I'm probably getting myself worked up over nothing, but I could be onto something here...

...if nothing else, the trades of these runs would be out just in time for the X-men Origins: Wolverine movie coming out in May of 2009. Sounds like a good reason to put high-profile creators on his two solo books to me. :cool:

[Lanowar]

If it was written in Wizard it MUST be true!

No way in hell Way would abandon Wolverine: Origins.

Well yes it must be true Wizard is a series of press releases from DC and Marvel loosly put together in a "magazine" format.

[Brian M.]

Daniel Way isn't leaving, apprently Origins is a 60 issue "limited" series and Way is on for the whole thing. It was in an interview done on this site months back when #15 came out. Way said they were a quarter of way through their story. 15*4 = 60.

[NickThompson]

I suppose he could write both titles...

But that would be, wow, that would be really f****d up. I'm still trying to envision Way incorporarting Deadpool into ever angsty Origins and coming up blank. I really can't picture him writing a Deadpool ongoing. I dunno though, maybe he can really do comedy. Guess we'll see.
I enjoyed his Bullseye minis, so I can see it working.

[rwsmith]

It's true. Wizard says that Way and Dillon are off Wolverine: Origins after the next arc and doing a Deadpool solo book together.

I'm thinking that perhaps Mark Millar and Steve McNiven are taking over Origins next so that their run can be traded just in time for the Wolverine movie in May of '09.

[timbox]

It's true. Wizard says that Way and Dillon are off Wolverine: Origins after the next arc and doing a Deadpool solo book together.


Is this good or bad? Who is Dillon?

I've never read anything by Way, can he do justice to Deadpool?

Did Wizard give any details about the book... like supporting cast?

[chrismileslord]

Is this good or bad? Who is Dillon?

I've never read anything by Way, can he do justice to Deadpool?

Did Wizard give any details about the book... like supporting cast?

It would be awesome. I would def. pick it up!

[Rollo_Tomasi]

I wonder if it Marvel or Way's decision to end his run on the title? Anyhow, this is fantastic news for Deadpool fans everywhere!!

I'm anxious to read this upcoming Wolverine: Origins arc to see how Way handles writing Deadpool.

[Deadpooligan]

I'm not worried in the least about Dillon drawing DP. That guy's a great artist.

I don't really dig his style on Wolverine, per se, but he rocked Bullseye: Greatest Hits, and Punisher VS Bullseye though. (Both of which were written by Daniel Way, interestingly enough)

Way is iffy. I liked him on the aforementioned Bullseye minis, and I liked the first arc of his Ghost Rider, but it went straight to h-- damn, I walked right into that --after the Sleepy Hollow arc. Wolvie Origins is kind of up and down for me.

[killerbass]

I'm not worried in the least about Dillon drawing DP. That guy's a great artist.

I don't really dig his style on Wolverine, per se, but he rocked Bullseye: Greatest Hits, and Punisher VS Bullseye though. (Both of which were written by Daniel Way, interestingly enough)

Way is iffy. I liked him on the aforementioned Bullseye minis, and I liked the first arc of his Ghost Rider, but it went straight to h-- damn, I walked right into that --after the Sleepy Hollow arc. Wolvie Origins is kind of up and down for me.

I haven't read anything by Way that really grabbed me.

But, my son has the Bullseye mini. I will go read that and report back to class.

I trust Deadpooligan's recommendations implicitly. :)

--Tom

[Teh m0nk3y]

Haven't read anything by Way, but not that happy about Dillon.
I have nostalgia for the Ennis and Dillon run of Hellblazer, but that might have something to do with it being my first exposure to the mans work.
Ever since then though his characters have been looking like generic clones to me. I remember him drawing Grifter in an issue of Wildcats and he looked just like Constantine. I think the only two places i liked his work was on Preacher and Hellblazer.

[Kevin Vetter]

Ever since then though his characters have been looking like generic clones to me.

I hate that about dillon. It's like he's got one male model and one female model and then throws on a different hairstyle and color of uniform so you can tell people apart.

[Constantinople]

I have no inside knowledge. (Reilly is always very professional...)

My guess, Cable is a last page (or two) surprise in issue 50.

But, like I said, it's just a guess.

--Tom

Well, Cable's been beaten up by Bishop in one of the "Messiah X" (Or whatever that storyline is called) so it's not like it's a secret anymore.

[killerbass]

But, my son has the Bullseye mini. I will go read that and report back to class.

OK, I read the Bullseye mini last night -- and I liked it. (I'd give it 7.5 out of 10.)

It was well-written from start to finish, and Dillon's art did a great job of straddling the line between realism and cartoony. He'd be a great artist for a Deadpool solo series.

(Dillon drew my favorite Deadpool cover -- Deadpool #54. Too bad the story wasn't as good as the cover...)

I will now enthusiastically buy Wolverine: Origins for the Deadpool arc. It *could* be fun.

--Tom

[Brian M.]

As much as I love this book this last arc just feels kinda...eh. I dug the balance you got w/ Cable AND Deadpool. Now it just feels kinda...eh. I'm in it till the end though.

As for the Wolverine: Origins Deadpool arc, I might pick that up.

[Nyssane]

If I don't get an Anaconda cameo in the final issue, I'll cry.

I want the last panel to be Bob meeting Ana.

[Brian M.]

If I don't get an Anaconda cameo in the final issue, I'll cry.

I want the last panel to be Bob meeting Ana.

For dinner.

And sex.

[diablo7]

i wonder if they'll get liefeld to draw the covers for deadpool's new series

[Nyssane]

For dinner.

And sex.

I would seriously cream my pants. Bob's deffo a catch. I could just imagine how protective Blanche would be with him. "YOU CALLED MY BOYFRIEND A WHAAAAAT?!?!"

[Rollo_Tomasi]

i wonder if they'll get liefeld to draw the covers for deadpool's new series


Please. God. No.

[Blade X]

As much as I like Deadpool, I won't be buying/reading this new ongoing series for a number of reasons (some of which are based on pure SPECULATION on my part).

1. The book is being written by ether Fabian,Joe Kelly,Slott,Priest,or other writers (like PAD) who can write a character like DP in a very humorous manner.

2. I'm not a fan of Way's writing. IMO, he suffers from "every tough character has to be written as a humorless bad@$$" syndrome.

3. I'm willing to bet that this new DP book will be lite on humor and heavy on the "grim and gritty". This tone for the book (IF my PREDICTION is correct), was most likely editorially mandated.

[Sentinel K]

check the latest issue of Wizard Magazine.

I really didn't want this to be true but it IS looking likely.

Bollocks.

I absolutely loathe Way's writing.

It seems weird that Marvel would give Way this project when it looks likely that Wolverine: Origins has been cancelled.

And Dillon is just wrong for a Deadpool title. Wrong!

[Sentinel K]

Double post. Oooooopsie!

[Jarath]

At least there is a new Deadpool solo series coming. Wonder if he will use the Agency X characters in it.

[rwsmith]

The latest Marvel Previews had some interior art from Cable's new series in it, and it looked pretty sweet IMO!

As for Deadpool's new ongoing, I have a pretty good feeling about it. I think Way and Dillon on a book like that might work perfectly. I'm betting that his Wade Wilson will not be humorless at all.

[JessieMidnight]

Is their any chance that the current Cable, and Deadpool artist Reilly Brown will be drawing the new series? I would rather have him drawing it than Dillon. Also not a fan of Way's writing.

[Waterlily]

If Jason Aaron took over Origins i'd be so happy - sorry i know it's off topic, but still, it'd make my day.

[killerbass]

If Jason Aaron took over Origins i'd be so happy - sorry i know it's off topic, but still, it'd make my day.

That Wolverine issue he did rocked. Wolverine #56.

--Tom

[diablo7]

i wouldn't mind seeing rick leonardi taking over origins..

[Rollo_Tomasi]

Over at Wizard they have a preview of the Wolverine: Origins #21. Also, tomorrow night they will be putting up a interview with Daniel Way where he's supposed to talk about Origins and Deadpool.

In case you're wondering how Way will write Wade, check out the preview. I have mixed feelings myself.

here's a link:
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/007029711.cfm

[Kusanagi]

Over at Wizard they have a preview of the Wolverine: Origins #21. Also, tomorrow night they will be putting up a interview with Daniel Way where he's supposed to talk about Origins and Deadpool.

In case you're wondering how Way will write Wade, check out the preview. I have mixed feelings myself.

here's a link:
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/007029711.cfm

It wouldn't be fair to judge a guy on five pages, but at least he's not portraying Deadpool as generic tough guy with healing factor. Just hope he doesn't overdo Deadpool vision. Also though I was trying not to (as it was baaad) the duck made me chuckle.

[Libaax]

Way is the single worst writer i have read in Marvel, if he gets DP new series omg.....

DP who is my second fav Marvel character after the dude in my av would die if Way took over.


How can a guy that cant write Wolverine do DP justice who is so much harder to balance his humor and serious side.....


Typical Marvel and their favorism of X-characters. Cable has already new series in preview, where the heck is Deadpools's

If he was a generic X-character i bet he would already have his series out in the previews now....

[Teh m0nk3y]

Not sure if I'll give the new Deadpool book a chance, but so far not liking the five page preview of Origins...

[Brian M.]

Count me out.

I was gonna get this for Deadpool but Dillon's art hurts me in this book. That Deadpool is bad...baaaaad.

[Mort]

Those 5 pages are almost enough to make me not wanna buy it.
The positive - at least its more Deadpool.

But why cancel C/DP and then give a new DP solo book to another writer instead of the one who was writing his previous book?

I'd buy a Fabian Nicieza written Deadpool series in a heartbeat.

[rwsmith]

I actually think it looks pretty good. The "duck, duck, goose" line got a little laugh out of me, and I loved seeing things through Deadpool's eyes. Way might not do so bad with Wade IMO.

Also, glad to see the brown costume back. I wish Wolverine would wear it in all of his books.

[Sentinel K]

Those 5 pages are almost enough to make me not wanna buy it.
The positive - at least its more Deadpool.

But why cancel C/DP and then give a new DP solo book to another writer instead of the one who was writing his previous book?

I'd buy a Fabian Nicieza written Deadpool series in a heartbeat.

As would I.

The Deadpool in that preview is a travesty.

[Brian M.]

Those 5 pages are almost enough to make me not wanna buy it.
The positive - at least its more Deadpool.

But why cancel C/DP and then give a new DP solo book to another writer instead of the one who was writing his previous book?

I'd buy a Fabian Nicieza written Deadpool series in a heartbeat.

Same. It Nicieza's dialogue w/ Deadpool doesn't feel forced. Those 5 pages felt like Way was forcing the joking attitude of Wade.

[Teh m0nk3y]

The so called "Wade-vision" was an instant turn off.

[Bic]

That preview for Wolverine: Origins #21 did nothing for me. The only part that amused me was the idea that Wolverine changed his clothes in the middle of the restaurant. I've been in plenty of relaxed eating places in my time but I'm pretty sure someone would say something if I stood up and took off my pants in the middle of the dining room. I haven't been reading Origins since my first impression of it was that it was lousy but perhaps I'm missing a title that is full of subtle, underappreciated humor.

i wonder if they'll get liefeld to draw the covers for deadpool's new series

If the proposed team of Way and Dillon were doing the comic the Liefeld covers would easily be the funniest thing in the series.

[rwsmith]

Same. It Nicieza's dialogue w/ Deadpool doesn't feel forced. Those 5 pages felt like Way was forcing the joking attitude of Wade.

I'm just the opposite, as I felt like Nicieza's DP humor was waaay forced. This, at least, gives a little more insight into Wade's mind and perhaps shows why he can't ever shut the hell up (because he's stark-raving nuts).

In a way, DP kind of reminds me of the lead character from Scrubs in that preview. If he were a violent psychopath, that is. ;)

[Sentinel K]

I'm just the opposite, as I felt like Nicieza's DP humor was waaay forced. This, at least, gives a little more insight into Wade's mind and perhaps shows why he can't ever shut the hell up (because he's stark-raving nuts).

In a way, DP kind of reminds me of the lead character from Scrubs in that preview. If he were a violent psychopath, that is. ;)

Im with Brian.

Way's Deadpool screamed "I'm trying really hard!" whereas, to me, Nicieza just GETS Deadpool. The dialogue seems natural and fluid.

[rwsmith]

Maybe I just don't get Deadpool then. He annoyed the shit out of me in Cable/Deadpool. And I honestly found Cable boring as dirt (other than during the Burnt Offering, which was pretty cool).

Now, on the other hand, I'm finding Cable really cool again, and Way's Deadpool seems interesting to me. More like he was in his initial X-Force appearances, where he was violently unstable and kind of scary as opposed to just clownish.

Just my opinion, though.

[Teh m0nk3y]

strangely I never took Deadpool as clownish in C&D.

[Sentinel K]

strangely I never took Deadpool as clownish in C&D.

Neither did I.

A 'moraly skewed, hyper-active eccentric with moments of genuine heart' would be my description.

[Libaax]

Maybe I just don't get Deadpool then. He annoyed the shit out of me in Cable/Deadpool. And I honestly found Cable boring as dirt (other than during the Burnt Offering, which was pretty cool).

Now, on the other hand, I'm finding Cable really cool again, and Way's Deadpool seems interesting to me. More like he was in his initial X-Force appearances, where he was violently unstable and kind of scary as opposed to just clownish.

Just my opinion, though.

Of course you dont get DP if you have only read C&D where he was a sidekick to someone like Cable.


If you wanna the real DP go back and read his main series,limited,Agent X etc

Fabian is good with Wade but he had to focus on the shining knigt Cable.

I would read his own comic with DP.

[Kusanagi]

I'm going to give this arc a chance, and I'm hoping for the best. Part of me hopes Marvel was just joking and just lets Fabian get the solo.

[Brian M.]

CnD #49 preview is up on CBR, link in the MU Board.

That's Deadpool, atleast the Deadpool I like. Good preview, didn't like last arc. Hopefully I'll like the LAST arc.

[Sentinel K]

CnD #49 preview is up on CBR, link in the MU Board.

That's Deadpool, atleast the Deadpool I like. Good preview, didn't like last arc. Hopefully I'll like the LAST arc.

2 more issues *sob*

That first splash page is awesome.

I really didn't care for brown's artwork to begin with but he's come leaps and bounds. He's awesome.

[CMBMOOL]

I have to admit that both Deadpool previews are kind of funny, and I'm willing to try to get both of them when they come out on TPB. :D

[Teh m0nk3y]

Link clicky (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12730)

That is how one writes Deadpool!
Darn it, I'm going to miss C&D.

[Sentinel K]

Link clicky (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12730)

That is how one writes Deadpool!
Darn it, I'm going to miss C&D.

yep yep.

This page kicks 14 kinds of ass.

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/shipping011608/CABDPL049_int-2.jpg

[Wonko the Sane]

After that last page of the CnD preview, Wade should make a lolcats comment.


OK, maybe that suggestion is too silly, even for me. :p

[Frodo-X]

I got an early copy of #49.

For anyone interested, you can find a summary here (http://forum.livewireworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=3140).

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

yep yep.

This page kicks 14 kinds of ass.

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/shipping011608/CABDPL049_int-2.jpg

Hayden wielding a battle-axe ='s awesome.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

strangely I never took Deadpool as clownish in C&D.

I did, Deadpool got his ass kicked alot throughout the Cable and Deadpool series, and just clowned around.

I like my Deadpool funny as hell (like he was), but also violent as a lion in a room filled with a bunch of Panda Bears chained to the ground. I don't like seein Panda's getting mauled or anything, but I like to see Deadpool as a swift, unpredictable, gracefull, killing machine.

lol just like a lion.."Deadpool, like a lion." That sounds like it would be a kick ass rock song.




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[Diablito]

I'll miss Cable and Deadpool. At least they get to adventure with the awesome Ka-Zar... sighh.

[Trey]

I hope Reilly Brown gets more work, his art has really improved to AWESOME level from ok/average. It's gotten alot more creative too.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

I hope Reilly Brown gets more work, his art has really improved to AWESOME level from ok/average. It's gotten alot more creative too.

Fuck yeah it has, I mean an obese Alex Hayden is swinging a god damn battle-axe and Wade has a shit load of throwing knives in his body lol. Thats just great violence, great acrobatics on Deadpools part too.

I wish Reilly would have drawn more of those freeze frames of Deadpool's acrobatics. But he kept drawing the same pose, with Wade doing that jumping kick. Then later he started to have DP flyin upside down with his sword an guns an shit. It's fucked up that he starts opening up right when the series is comin to an end though.

And I saw the pencil work for when DP free's and challenges Taskmaster. Theres a panel where Wade slams a bazooka down on a the back of a guard's head and in the same action he's kickin another guard in the face. But on the pencil drawing of that scene, the guard had Deadpool's boot imprint on his plastic face guard. lol Little shit like that is that creative awesomeness that Reilly can do.

Every time I take a dump, I look back on those books, they were some fun books.

[Cthulhudrew]

Do I have too much time on my hands? Maybe...

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6343/agentfh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Teh m0nk3y]

Do I have too much time on my hands? Maybe...

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6343/agentfh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I would buy 10 copies of that issue!

[jasonbaroody]

I hope Reilly Brown gets more work, his art has really improved to AWESOME level from ok/average. It's gotten alot more creative too.

if you want to see more reilly brown and jeremy freeman stuff, go to ten ton studios. they are both members and both have artwork to look at www.tentonstudios.com (http://www.tentonstudios.com)
lots of deadpool stuff:)
http://www.oddgodpress.com/reillybrown/mono/art/deadpool04.jpg
(http://www.tentonstudios.com/forum/index.php?topic=54.0)

[killerbass]

Cable & Deadpool got some love from Marvel.com

Check it out here (http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.2384.Cable%7Eand%7EDeadpool%3A_Thanks_for_t he_Memories).

Great choices! I would still put the Marvel Girl outfit as #1 -- but for the casual observer, it might be too much for them...

--Tom

[Sentinel K]

Cable & Deadpool got some love from Marvel.com

Check it out here (http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.2384.Cable%7Eand%7EDeadpool%3A_Thanks_for_t he_Memories).

Great choices! I would still put he Marvel Girl outfit as #1 -- but for the casual observer, it might be too much for them...

--Tom

Awesome. it's nice that Marvel did SOMETHING to mark it's passing.

Think i'll go read some.

[Mort]

Well it was nice it got a mention that it was ending.

[Brian M.]

Least it was something.

[Bic]

"I didn't know if it would play to have Deadpool peeing for a couple pages," questions editor Nicole Boose. "But I guess readers didn't tire of it as fast as I thought they would."

Only the most discriminating of readers could appreciate the genius of C&D!

[killerbass]

"I didn't know if it would play to have Deadpool peeing for a couple pages," questions editor Nicole Boose. "But I guess readers didn't tire of it as fast as I thought they would."

Only the most discriminating of readers could appreciate the genius of C&D!

All 10 of us. :D

I am really going to miss this book. My only solace these days is the mantra that I keep muttering, "symbiote dinosaurs, symbiote dinosaurs..."

--Tom

[Brian M.]

All 10 of us. :D

I am really going to miss this book. My only solace these days is the mantra that I keep muttering, "symbiote dinosaurs, symbiote dinosaurs..."

--Tom

Maybe we'll get a quick flash of Cable w/ the Messiah baby. Anything. I really will be sad if we get no Cable in this book.

[Sentinel K]

I kind of don't want #50 to come out.

Cos then it will be final.

And there will never be that anticipation again.