Hulk Hogan Gets Taken Down...

[Typo Lad]

by Kosher food (http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=3099).

People told me about this, but finally getting to see it is fun.

The Hogans come off as very sweet and willing to learn but I kept cringing.

Do non-Jews really know that little about Kosher? Seriously?

[dingo]

Do non-Jews really know that little about Kosher? Seriously?

There is no way of saying this without it sounding a little rude, but why should we care untill it affects us?

[geordiesteve]

Uh, yeah, seriously, I have no clue and I consider myself fairly intelligent.

With Islam I'm aware of what Halal is and i've heard the word before, but since I'm neither a Jew or a Muslim, and such details were never a part of my education in religious studies, what I know has come only from my personal interactions with people of those religions. So if like Hulk I found myself with Jewish neighbours, I would probably be in the same position as him.

[Typo Lad]

I HATE YOU NOW.

Actually, good point.

[Alex]

Do non-Jews really know that little about Kosher? Seriously?

Yes. I dated a jew for almost 2 years, and i know very little about kosher food. I know some stuff in the grocery stores are labeled as kosher....i think you aren't suppose to eat pork...um...you can't eat a rare steak, because it has blood in it, and you can't eat bleeding food.
You can't drink milk with meat...might be a dairy rule, i assume this means you can't eat a cheeseburger, unless the cheese is kosher. I have no idea how one goes about making kosher cheese, i don't think it needs a rabbi blessing, it's something else, the rabbi blessing something isn't technicaly what it all means.
Lobsters and shrimp and the like, you can't eat those, right?
I dunno, if any of this is even right, it's all from memory, and i never sat down and learned the rules.

[DonC]

Do non-Jews really know that little about Kosher? Seriously?


I don't have a clue what Kosher is. Then again, I don't know much about any religion. I'm not a religious person.

[Xero Kaiser]

There is no way of saying this without it sounding a little rude, but why should we care untill it affects us?

Pretty much. I've heard the term before, but I have no idea what "kosher" actually is. Don't care either. None of my business, doesn't affect me.

[Typo Lad]

Alex - at least you didn't just think it was a brand of pickel.

Edit for longer answer.

I mean, you all know, at least, that it's "a code of dietery laws of some sort". The Hogans didn't even know that much.

[Alex]

Pretty much. I've heard the term before, but I have no idea what "kosher" actually is. Don't care either. None of my business, doesn't affect me.

Unless you have to cook for a jewish friend.
Then you might serve him something non kosher, and if he or she eats it, they will go to hell.
And it will be your fault!

[Joe Rice]

I know a bit, but I live in NY. And went to NYJew. Film school, at that. And one of my best buddies converted.

[Alex]

Alex - at least you didn't just think it was a brand of pickel.

Edit for longer answer.

I mean, you all know, at least, that it's "a code of dietery laws of some sort". The Hogans didn't even know that much.

OH yeah, i forgot, all pickles take great pleasure in announcing they are kosher.
Vlassic is kosher, and that bird is a jew.

[Typo Lad]

Unless you have to cook for a jewish friend.
Then you might serve him something non kosher, and if he or she eats it, they will go to hell.
And it will be your fault!
Actually, and here's the really fun part...unless a Jew lights the flame first, it isn't Kosher anyway (by Orthodox standards, and the Jews is than Video are clearly Modern Orthodox).

[Typo Lad]

OH yeah, i forgot, all pickles take great pleasure in announcing they are kosher.
Vlassic is kosher, and that bird is a jew.
That bird just converted for the jokes.

[Typo Lad]

I know a bit, but I live in NY. And went to NYJew. Film school, at that. And one of my best buddies converted.
Yeah, you don't count. or ALex, You Cabalists!

[Xero Kaiser]

Unless you have to cook for a jewish friend.

I wouldn't be caught dead cooking for a jewish person


...I don't cook. So, I hope ramen noodles and strawberry soda are Kosher. If not, I'll apologize to him when we're in hell

[Alex]

Actually, and here's the really fun part...unless a Jew lights the flame first, it isn't Kosher anyway (by Orthodox standards, and the Jews is than Video are clearly Modern Orthodox).

What if it's not cooked?
Like...can you eat potato chips, and if so, does the rule change too "Unless the jew opens a bag first"?
Friggen food laws. Once a month, Lauren remebers she's a christian, goes to church, and trys to tell me about it. But all i know is, Jesus came down from heaven, and said unto Jimmy Dean "I change nothing from the old testament, but that bit about food. Eat whatever you want, and i say unto you Jimmy Dean, make sausage from the pig, and put it in a tube, so my people may slice it, and fry it, and have it with their eggs, fo sho"

[Alex]

I wouldn't be caught dead cooking for a jewish person



I took the second part out so i could call you an anti-semite. Now, in a week when someone calls me a nazi when i make some comment about capitalism being super, i can say "No, i defended the jews food laws!"

[Typo Lad]

What if it's not cooked?

Raw's alllll good...well, mostly. Wine prep's complicated too.

[Alex]

Raw's alllll good...well, mostly.

You can't have shrimp cocktail, Gentiles for the win!

[dingo]

What if it's not cooked?
Like...can you eat potato chips, and if so, does the rule change too "Unless the jew opens a bag first"?

But potato chips are cooked. Surely the same rules apply.

[Alex]

But potato chips are cooked. Surely the same rules apply.

I guess that would mean you can't eat potato chips unless you work in a potato chip factory.

[Xero Kaiser]

Man, this is complicated 0_o

[Typo Lad]

But potato chips are cooked. Surely the same rules apply.
Lays are Kosher, but only plain. Darnit. All pringles are Kosher, yay!

Kosher food has one of these symbols on it (or others)

http://www.jli.co.il/uploads/images/15/symbols_small.jpg

My dad was once flagged over by someone in the US Senate to let them know the Cafateria now had "the ice cream with the circle u".

[Alex]

Lays are Kosher, but only plain. Darnit. All pringles are Kosher, yay!

Kosher food has one of these symbols on it (or others)

http://www.jli.co.il/uploads/images/15/symbols_small.jpg

My dad was once flagged over by someone in the US Senate to let them know the Cafateria now had "the ice cream with the circle u".
Damnit....nevermind

[Typo Lad]

Must be blocking image linking...

http://kosherfood.about.com/b/a/5_s.jpg

Can you see these? These are only five, but five of the "biggies". odds are you have a ton of food products in your house with one of these.

[Alex]

Must be blocking image linking...

http://kosherfood.about.com/b/a/5_s.jpg

Can you see these? These are only five, but five of the "biggies". odds are you have a ton of food products in your house with one of these.
Never noticed.
And if i did, i probably save the triangle one, assumed the K was the name of a demon, and thought the freemasons put it there.
God, how i hate the masons.

[Typo Lad]

I once saw a headstone in a Jewish cemetary with a masonic symbol on it and a notation that he was of the Priestly caste.

"Wow. A Jewish mason. Guess soime of us really do run the world."

That said, Traingle-K is very common, but generally not considered relaible. That is changing as a new administration has been tightning things up.

Soon I may be able to eat Hostess products. Yay!

[Joe Rice]

Masons can be of any faith that believes in a "higher power."

[Alex]

Masons can be of any faith that believes in a "higher power."

Go be evil and secretly control america, you mason sympathizer.
Worse then terrorists, the lot of you!

[dingo]

"Wow. A Jewish mason. Guess soime of us really do run the world."

On a slightly related note, the other week I bought Will Eisners "The Plot".

A great read.

[Patient Boy]

I once saw a headstone in a Jewish cemetary with a masonic symbol on it and a notation that he was of the Priestly caste.

"Wow. A Jewish mason. Guess soime of us really do run the world."

That said, Traingle-K is very common, but generally not considered relaible. That is changing as a new administration has been tightning things up.

Soon I may be able to eat Hostess products. Yay!

OT: I suddenly realise that it's been years since there's actually been a Hostess pie ad or a Charles Atlas advertisement in an American comic book, but we continue to make fun of them. I don't think kids would get those jokes about them.

Why isn't there a standardised symbol for Kosher foods though? There aren't standardised requirements between various organisations as to what constitutes Kosher?

[dingo]

Masons can be of any faith that believes in a "higher power."

As long as that "higher power" is the Masons themselves.

[Alex]

OT: I suddenly realise that it's been years since there's actually been a Hostess pie ad or a Charles Atlas advertisement in an American comic book, but we continue to make fun of them. I don't think kids would get those jokes about them.


I'm 23, and they were before my time.
I know atlas from my brothers comics and Flex Mentallo, but the hostess ads...never seen them.

[Patient Boy]

Masons can be of any faith that believes in a "higher power."

True story, I learned that particular fact at an open house at the local Freemason's lodge.

[dingo]

I'm 23, and they were before my time.
I know atlas from my brothers comics and Flex Mentallo, but the hostess ads...never seen them.

You never bought a back issue?

Hell, I'm only 25, and they don't even sell them in Australia, but I know what a hostess fruit pie is.

[TinMan]

Do non-Jews really know that little about Kosher? Seriously?

I would say most non-Jews don't really know much about it... I do however, thanks to conversations with you and the Wikipedia entry! Though I can't remember all of it, I do remember probably 75% of everything I read, it's pretty complicated actually.

[Alex]

True story, I learned that particular fact at an open house at the local Freemason's lodge.

Open being a relative term, they didn't invite you into the secret sanctum of scandalous skullduggery and sculking, where they work together with their jewish friends in hollywood to take over the world and destroy the mortyfing muslim menace of the mideast!
....
They hate christians too, probably.

[Alex]

You never bought a back issue?

Hell, I'm only 25, and they don't even sell them in Australia, but I know what a hostess fruit pie is.

I know what a fruit pie is, because they sell them here, but i've never seen an ad.

[TinMan]

You never bought a back issue?

Hell, I'm only 25, and they don't even sell them in Australia, but I know what a hostess fruit pie is.

I've 23 (24 in March) and I've seen those adds in old issues. I'm not surprised the Atlas stuff isn't in there anymore, I mean, it's kind of outdated and with all of the "Men's Health" magazine's out there, they have a better target audience that way.

The Hostess pies though, I can't explain.

[Typo Lad]

OT: I suddenly realise that it's been years since there's actually been a Hostess pie ad or a Charles Atlas advertisement in an American comic book, but we continue to make fun of them. I don't think kids would get those jokes about them.

Just another sign of how comics are for older people now.


Why isn't there a standardised symbol for Kosher foods though? There aren't standardised requirements between various organisations as to what constitutes Kosher?

Maybe this needs to be merged with ATJ now. Heh.

There are and there aren't. For example, some Kosher Certifiers will only accept Pas Yisroel (bread baked by a Jew from start to finish). Those tend to be the smaller ones, but still...difference.

Some have different standards in other areas. For example, The OU says that an Ice Cream Shop requires a s Maskiyach Tamidi (Always-present Kosher Certifier). This is due to a "scandal" five years ago where several chains of Haagen Daz and other shops were found to be carrying non-Kosher Ice Cream and labeling it as the store brand. Others, such as the KVH do not agree.

There are other, more complex issues, but those are two good examples I think.

[Alex]

For example, The OU says that an Ice Cream Shop requires a s Maskiyach Tamidi (Always-present Kosher Certifier).

...theres a joke in there.

[Typo Lad]

...theres a joke in there.
You mean about how they're saying "Hey, we won't say you're Kosher anymore unless you pay one of our certifiers to hang out all day?"

That's not a joke. That's extortion.

I don't hold by that ruling, incidently. I just don't eat at those shops anymore.

[Patient Boy]

Open being a relative term, they didn't invite you into the secret sanctum of scandalous skullduggery and sculking, where they work together with their jewish friends in hollywood to take over the world and destroy the mortyfing muslim menace of the mideast!
....
They hate christians too, probably.

They had a big G suspended over what was like their congress room.

Sadly it stood for God and not Galactus.

[Bouncing Boy]

That bird just converted for the jokes.

He's based on Groucho Marx though, who was Jewish. Plus look at the size of his nose (okay I'm going to hell for that one)

[Typo Lad]

BB, I've known you for a few years now. If you're going to Hell, that's way, way on the end of the reasons why.

I'll save you a seat.

[Charles RB]

Do non-Jews really know that little about Kosher? Seriously?

All I know is it means you can't eat stuff. "Unless a Jew lights the flame first, it isn't Kosher anyway", that I didn't know.

[Bouncing Boy]

What if it's not cooked?
Like...can you eat potato chips, and if so, does the rule change too "Unless the jew opens a bag first"?
Friggen food laws. Once a month, Lauren remebers she's a christian, goes to church, and trys to tell me about it. But all i know is, Jesus came down from heaven, and said unto Jimmy Dean "I change nothing from the old testament, but that bit about food. Eat whatever you want, and i say unto you Jimmy Dean, make sausage from the pig, and put it in a tube, so my people may slice it, and fry it, and have it with their eggs, fo sho"

Heh, except he did change stuff from the old testement. Eye for an Eye for instance.

[dingo]

Heh, except he did change stuff from the old testement. Eye for an Eye for instance.

Not just 'stuff', almost everything.

Wasn't it something like "everything is open to you, but not everything is beneficial".

Basically a change from rules to a reliance on concience.

[Reverend Smooth]

Typo, it should be noted that most Christians (sorry, guys) don't know the details of their OWN faith, let alone another one.

Even in this thread, for instance. I should note that the old laws were struck down when Jesus died. He himself said so when he said, 'I have not come to cast aside the old laws, but to fulfill them,' which meant that his death would clear the slate for humanity to stop having to atone for original sin, not invalidate them... that's the meaning of, 'Jesus died for your sins.' It's not just an empty phrase.

Colossians 2:14 states that levitical law was nailed to the cross when Jesus died. Love God and love thy neighbor, and keep to the ten commandments, was what christians had to do. That's why they're not jews, in good part, and part of why Jesus was an unacceptable savior to the jewish majority.

Christians do a lot differently than ignoring just the food laws. Go read all of leviticus, whoever said that they didn't.

Dingo: for those for whom acts would weaken their faith, they should avoid them. For those whom it wouldn't, they don't have to.

[Typo Lad]

Smooth - nice post.

Leviticus' name in Hebrew (ie, the actual name) is Vayikra. The majority of Vayikra is rejected by Christianity. Which makes it sad when homophobes reference it. Especially when they're mistranslating.

I know. I harp on this. Sorry

[Reverend Smooth]

Smooth - nice post.

Leviticus' name in Hebrew (ie, the actual name) is Vayikra. The majority of Vayikra is rejected by Christianity. Which makes it sad when homophobes reference it. Especially when they're mistranslating.

I know. I harp on this. SorrySo do I. It's okay. X:

[Winslow]

Smooth - nice post.

Leviticus' name in Hebrew (ie, the actual name) is Vayikra. The majority of Vayikra is rejected by Christianity. Which makes it sad when homophobes reference it. Especially when they're mistranslating.

I know. I harp on this. Sorry

It's a good thing to harp on.

[Matt Algren]

Masons can be of any faith that believes in a "higher power."Technically yes, but in my experience, you're about as likely to find a Black Mason (Grand Lodge) as you are to find a Jewish Mason.


I know next to nothing about what Kosher means. I know there are laws, and fairly strict ones at that, but as to the specifics, my eyes glaze over like most other people's.

At least for Christians, I think it's kind of like the first chapter of Matthew, with all the begats. We know it's there, and we accept that it's there, but most of us don't go any further than that.

Which is too bad.

[Dreadstar]

Kosher food has one of these symbols on it (or others)

http://www.jli.co.il/uploads/images/15/symbols_small.jpg

My dad was once flagged over by someone in the US Senate to let them know the Cafateria now had "the ice cream with the circle u".

This is part of the problem. With all these varying degrees of "kosher," how the the hell are we supposed to know what's what? If "Circle U" is kosher, but it's not quite kosher enough for those guys over there who really don't think it's kosher at all, how do you expect us to even care?

I had some nice Entemann's cheese danish this morning. It had a "Circle U (with a 'D')". I assume therefore that there are some Jews who consider that fine and dandy.

[StoneGold]

So I guess that means that Hogan isn't as close friends with Eric Bischoff as everyone thought?



That said, I doubt Bischoff was observant. What with the Atlanta Gold Club scandal with the prostitution and all.

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