View Full Version : X-23 needs archetype?
Jadeskies
01-28-2007, 05:51 PM
I have been enjoying all the x-23 comics (Except AOA part deux) and I see that they nicely play up the fact that X-23 doesn't know how to behave around other people or mutants in a more personal atmopshere. She's a born and bred weapon.
Now Wolverine has an archetype, honorable Samarai. Does anyone else feel that wolverine needs to take her to the side and go on a world traveling journey to help x-23 find her inner self?
He could take her to Japan or madripoor, the deep south, what ever. Introduce her to his deep file of secondary characters and run into some of his most violent enemies. Along the way she could 'develop' an archetype.
Ninja, samarai, what ever.
Beast
01-28-2007, 05:56 PM
No. Because we don't need her to be a Mini-Wolverine in character as well as genetics. Her archetype is already established. She'd the sheltered and damaged victim who is learning how to be human. In other words, she's the Pinocchio archetype. She was a 'Toy' who's becoming a real child. See also, the movie A.I.
Jadeskies
01-28-2007, 05:59 PM
Well let me define that I did not intend for her to become a samarai herself, perhaps she could pick up an archetype that wolverine did not intend and doesnt wholey agree with.
So your saying you would not want a comic where wolverine world travels with x-23 in an attempt to fix what cant be fixed?
Also note that the PInnochio thing requires one to actually want to become more human, x-23 at this point doesn't seem to give two shakes about trying to become more human.
Beast
01-28-2007, 06:02 PM
Well let me define that I did not intend for her to become a samarai herself, perhaps she could pick up an archetype that wolverine did not intend and doesnt wholey agree with.
So your saying you would not want a comic where wolverine world travels with x-23 in an attempt to fix what cant be fixed?
As I noted above... she already has an archetype though. She doesn't need to have anything more in comon with Wolverine. As soon as she does, she ceases to be her own character and just becomes Mini Wolverina. Her story is more interesting the way it is. Logan was a human being who became a government Toy, and then who had to work his way back to humanity. Where as X-23 has never been anything but a toy, and has become real. And no, keep the two characters far apart. If you put them in the same book they become redundant.
Brett P
01-28-2007, 07:25 PM
Also note that the PInnochio thing requires one to actually want to become more human, x-23 at this point doesn't seem to give two shakes about trying to become more human.
It's not that, she just doesn't know how...not yet. Even something simple like going for coffee and talking "boys" makes her feel uncomfortable and confused. And just as Mercury attempts to make some progress, they get blown up, shot and attacked!!
I think her journey is going to be more interesting than Wolverines.
Arilou
01-29-2007, 12:56 AM
She has an archetype.
She's a relatively cold-blooded killer. Unliike Wolverine she doesen't seem to go into berserker rages that much. It's more that when she decides someone has to die she'll kill them, as efficiently and quickly as possible.
That in some ways makes her a lot more scary and unpredictable.
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