How Do You Like Your Werewolves?

[DWEarhart]

Lon Chaney's is classic, no doubt, but modern minds have used history to change the views and styles of this fabled being, however, Chaney's version could still hold its own today.

Do you prefer the human to full four-legged wolf transformation, ala Jack Nicholson in Wolf?

Or perhaps, like myself, do you like the two-legged amalgamation such as the one that appeared in Dog Soldiers and Monster Squad?

Is there another take on the creature that you'd like to see, or one that needs to be seen more?

[Atom_basher]

well done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

i like them all right, but i should have ordered the fishman soup

[Cam63]

I prefer the two legged " half man, half scary bastard " werewolf.

[lboinyamouf4sho]

thats a damn good question, i've never really thought about it. i guess i prefer the walk on four legs oversized wolf. i wonder why werewolves have never been as popular as vampires in hollywood??

[Bear]

As bad guys: I think they make more interesting cannon fodder.

[Ravenheart]

I love all kinds of werewolves but my favorite has always been the two-legged amalgamation like in Dog Soldiers,The Howling etc...

[Bear]

I love all kinds of werewolves but my favorite has always been the two-legged amalgamation like in Dog Soldiers,The Howling etc...

Somebody should probably ask Haunt this question. But in my opinion: Best "Howling" movie is #5--when they're all at the castle in Bucharest.

[Ravenheart]

Best "Howling" movie: #5--when they're all at the castle in Bucharest.

Yeah I like that one too but it was pretty easy to figure out who the werewolf was.

[hoffmandu]

I'm into the taller, 2 legged beasts, of non-cgi creation. Long snouts, huge rack of teeth.

[Motormouse]

Underworld/ Dog Soldier cross.....spit roasted to just slightly crispy, sprinkled with sage & rosmary, and covered in an onion gravy.........maybe a splodge of mint sauce, washed down with a nice Grenache*.

Herbed Leg of Werewolf with Pan Gravy
INGREDIENTS:
1 leg of Werewolf, about 10 pounds
4 cloves garlic, crushed
2 teaspoons salt
2 teaspoons dried leaf oregano, rosemary,crushed
1/2 teaspoon pepper
1 cup dry red wine
1/4 cup sliced green onions
2 tablespoons lemon juice
2 tablespoons flour
salt and pepper to taste
*Don't forget to remove the silver bullets prior to basting!

[maczero]

I prefer the full blown CGI monster look (think Van Helsing). A guy who turns into a normal wolf or just gets hairier, really isn't that threatening.

[MaxofSteel]

I prefer the full blown CGI monster look (think Van Helsing). A guy who turns into a normal wolf or just gets hairier, really isn't that threatening.

I agree. The Van Helsing werewolves were much more intimidating than most other variations.

[Athena Bast]

covered in Blood And not dipped in Chocolate

[Scorpion13]

Put me in the bi-pied wolf-thing catagory here.

And none of that lameass CGI either. Real all the way baby.

The guy in the subway in An American Werewolf in London looked like he was being chased down by a friggin wolf.

Van Helsing looked like he was running away from a Tex Avery cartoon.

[marshal99]

An american werewolf was effective because you don't see much of the wolf till much later. The wolf howl was scary. If i heard that while in a empty subway , i'll be running like hell to get topside.

[Captain_Video]

Put me in the bi-pied wolf-thing catagory here.

And none of that lameass CGI either. Real all the way baby.

The guy in the subway in An American Werewolf in London looked like he was being chased down by a friggin wolf.

Van Helsing looked like he was running away from a Tex Avery cartoon.

Agreed.

But I will say that as good as "An American Werewolf in London" is, there still has not been a definitive Werewolf movie, they all have good elements and Landis' movie is as close as anyone has ever gotten, but the Werewolf sub genre, for some reason seems to be incredibly hard to get right, often it gets overcomplicated and too wrapped up in the mythology and not the real important issues, which is that a Werewolf is an animal, primal human being...what are our base instincts ?

Yeah, one day the Werewolf will have his day, soon hopefully.

[Ontir]

It depends upon the film, and how it's handled. It can be great, whether practical SFX, or CGI, bi-pedal, or doggie-style.

[Phil Clark]

...there still has not been a definitive Werewolf movie, they all have good elements and Landis' movie is as close as anyone has ever gotten, but the Werewolf sub genre, for some reason seems to be incredibly hard to get right...

I don't know, I thought the Howling was pretty darned definitive. The original, not any of the sequels.

[Tobias March]

Yeah put me down for The Howling/Dog Soldiers as well. Werewolves seeking therapy - gotta love it.

Landis gets the nod too for the scene in the porn film theatre and his characters going round talking about Cheney's movies and such.

[BoosterBronze]

i wonder why werewolves have never been as popular as vampires in hollywood??

Werewolves aren't as inherently sexy/sexual as vampires.

I like my werewolves a la Underworld, big scary ass monsters. American Werewolf in London is great, but it's so great it practically transcends being a werewolf movie.

[Captain_Video]

Werewolves aren't as inherently sexy/sexual as vampires.

I like my werewolves a la Underworld, big scary ass monsters. American Werewolf in London is great, but it's so great it practically transcends being a werewolf movie.

Yes, absolutely, Werewolves lack the glamour of Vampires, as they are often more in line with an alcholic or a man with some inescapable condition that we know will eventually kill him.

The Howling, does a lot right, I mean it is easily one of the top five ( or another way of putting it would be ONLY five decent ) Werewolf movies, but it isn't really in the victims head, its not about the tragedy.

Werewolves are just tragic creatures ultimately.

The Wolf Man would be the best of them all if it had Rick Baker level effects, sure, the Chaney Jnr look is iconic, but the Baker transformation is awe inspiring.

Underworld was a bit D & D for my liking, that sort of fan mythology thing.

Ginger Snaps, good but too conscious of being hip.

[Antonio B.]

Definately Van Helsing. As for why they are not as popular. I would say mostly because for the most part when the person transforms he/she is just an animal. Very little to no control of what he/she/it is doing.

[Buzz Dixon]

The werewolf in RETURN OF THE VAMPIRE (the cheapie DRACULA knock-off Columbia made with Lugosi) is interesting in that while looking like a knock-off of THE WOLFMAN he retained his power of speech and was not guided purely by animal instinct but rather was a willing slave of Lugosi's character.

[DWEarhart]

I likes mine on two legs. If they run in packs, then the leaders only should be capable of speaking, the rest are nice, growling, obedient drones.

[StoneGold]

thats a damn good question, i've never really thought about it. i guess i prefer the walk on four legs oversized wolf. i wonder why werewolves have never been as popular as vampires in hollywood??

More expensive. Vampires, all you need are some teeth. Werewolves take a lot more makeup.

[DWEarhart]

And then there's this conflicting ideal, sometimes werewolves are immortal, sometimes they're not.

I like it if they're gift allows them to age slower, though being part K-9, logically, they would age faster.

Hmmmmmmm. Idea.

[Bear]

Yeah I like that one too but it was pretty easy to figure out who the werewolf was.

I swear, I honestly thought it was one of the guys. Guess it makes sense though: it's usually the least likely to be the werewolf, in these kinds of films.

[Carcassa]

The uglier the better. Prefer standing on two legs. Van Helsing had a great werewolf.

Theres always Michael Jackson as a werewolf in Thriller...

[Royal]

I like Fredric Marsh's performance as Mr. Hyde.

[Buzz Dixon]

I like Fredric Marsh's performance as Mr. Hyde.Hyde's a mean drunk, not a werewolf!;)

[Royal]

Hyde's a mean drunk, not a werewolf!;)


Oh.

So we're not accepting the Apollonian/Dinosyian metaphors, eh?

*puts away Neighbor No. 13*

[Scorpion13]

Hyde's a mean drunk, not a werewolf!;)

Hey, its better than Spencer Tracy's Hyde: Irritated Scotsman.

[Kirayoshi]

I'm partial to the crouched two-legged version that occasionally reverts to four-legged in order to outrun its prey.

Was always partial to Daniel "Oz" Osbourne in that regard myself. A loner by nature, but seeks love and companionship. Very cool.

Werewolves in groups maintain a pack mentality that makes them more dangerous. A sole werewolf should be an outcast, among both humans and his/her own kind.

[Scorpion13]

I'm partial to the crouched two-legged version that occasionally reverts to four-legged in order to outrun its prey.

Was always partial to Daniel "Oz" Osbourne in that regard myself. A loner by nature, but seeks love and companionship. Very cool.

Eh. Cant say as Im very fond of the "monkey-wolf" from Buffy myself.

Dagnabbit, it was goofy looking!

[Nate Grey]

I like my werewolves in gi sporting nunchucks.

[DWEarhart]

I've been thinking about it, lately.

I'm looking at vampires and werewolves, and noticing the slight incongruities among their social status.

Vampires are the aristocrats, the regals of darkness. They live in castles, dine at the fines restaurants, and yet, will suck the blood from anything with a heartbeat.

Werewolves are the blue collar workers. They're stuck with the untrimmed fingernails, shaggy hair, and bad breath; often, they're even a vampire's agent. My kind of evil. The kind that works for their kill. They don't hypnotize their prey. It's a hunt for fun, and catching the scared little morsel makes it taste so much sweeter.

Vampires grow tired of existence, some werewolves don't even know they're alive, at least in wolf form. They're human side awakens, wondering how they wound up with a mouthful of human hair, and skin beneath their finger nails.

[wingsofdamnation]

i like that idea of the four legged werewolfs the best. like an oversized wolf but a whole lot scarier. but if we're going by the best werewolf movie then it is definitly without a dobt: american werewolf in london

[Chou Blaster]

i prefer Howling1, A American Were Wolf in London, and Dog SOldiers in terms of my were wolves.


But yeah: Vampires get higher bilnig as villaisn due ot nature.

let sobserve shall we?

Vampires:

1: Sexual/sexy by nature and in doing so, embody STDs scare. (Seirosuly, what Braham Stoker's Draucla was all about.)

2: They are undead, so your damne dfor good if you become one.

Also ni bieng already dea,d no real consquence in slaying

3: In general get freakky super nature powers.

4: Are in contorl at all tmes, amkni gthem better lead creature, as they are respondible for their actions.

5: Got easier to access wekanesses.

6: Vmapries cna be active at all times.

Were Wolves:

1: Represent threat o f rabies/rabid animals.

2: THey are living things, so they truely feel pain, and the whole beast within person, cannot kill one without killing other.

3: Have a mor e imtied/unimangative supe rnatural pattern.

4: Due ot anture of morphing the Were WOlf character is one of two things.

1: In reality know s all about coniditon, doe snto seek help and is too much of a dick/bitch/etc that viewer shows no genuine smypathy.

OR

The honest vicitmw ho survived and is transformnig and is too sympathic for one to want said character's ehad on the spot.

5: Silver as only weakness, and the loop hoel of drinknig forma sivler golbet to obtain immrotality is tricky.

6: Either FUll Mono for forced transformation or more mdoenr at will.

[marshal99]

The types of werewolves ..

The Lon Chaney/Jack Nicholson "Wolfman" type. Those that is still human looking.
http://www.monstersinmotion.us/books/wolfmanposter.jpghttp://www.maskedreviewer.com/images/Jackwolf.jpg

The 4 legged "American werewolf in london" type
http://www.mouseplanet.com/destiny/werewolf.jpg

The standard 2 legged Werewolf type
http://www.dragonstoothminiatures.com/images/dinnertime2.jpg

Buffy/Angel had the 2 different types of werewolves on their show , the 2 legged werewolf type and the monkey wolf human looking type like Oz.

[DDM]

I prefer the original Wolfman, An American Werewolf in London, & The Howling werewolves. The CGI stuff just ruins the illusion for me.

[xnef1025]

The first thing to always remember when making a werewolf movie:

Establish proper anatomy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqeMe3X884o)

[Scorpion13]

Also, the soundtrack must be up to par. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXG2d36yRmI)

[Jared]

I really liked the design of the werewolves from Underworld, but hated the way they could crawl along along walls and ceiling in a manner decidedly unlike wolves or humans. Save that nonsense for a movie about some kind of werecat.

[G. Wayne]

I go for the Underworld/Dog Soldiers "Crinos" form. Looks more monstrous and threatening to me.

Eh. Cant say as Im very fond of the "monkey-wolf" from Buffy myself.

Dagnabbit, it was goofy looking!

'Aye. Oz-wolf was one of the low points of the series.

[Haunt]

i'm still backing Skorzeny and his brand of werewolf. i call it the malformed bear werewolf.

http://www.werewolftv.com/images/media/pic7.jpg
http://www.werewolftv.com/images/media/pic4.jpg

some of the other werewolves look too flimsy to me.

[marshal99]

A real life Werewolf reported sighting 1 (http://www.prairieghosts.com/brayrd.html)

A real life Werewolf reported sighting 2 (http://www.guardiantales.freewebspace.com/JAN-FromTheWoods.html)

[Bear]

You know what?

I like my werewolves from London. With perfect hair.

http://www.preservehollywood.org/images/hullandwerewolfoflondon.jpg

Like to eat at Chinese Restaurants...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/London_-_Lee_Ho_Fook.jpg/275px-

Must be a non smoker.

[Carcassa]

I really liked the design of the werewolves from Underworld, but hated the way they could crawl along along walls and ceiling in a manner decidedly unlike wolves or humans. Save that nonsense for a movie about some kind of werecat.

I agree, how is a 300 pound animal with human like hands and feet going to run upside down on a cave wall. Or hallway for that matter. I've never even seen a 5 pound cat do it.

[Scorpion13]

I agree, how is a 300 pound animal with human like hands and feet going to run upside down on a cave wall. Or hallway for that matter. I've never even seen a 5 pound cat do it.

Those hallways had drywall walls and suspended tile ceilings. How did they do any of what they did without destroying the first thing they touched?

[Shellhead]

So far, the best werewolf movie that I've seen was Blood and Chocolate. Great soundtrack, great story, decent acting, lovely cinematography. Only problem was that they were working with a limited budget and decided to steer clear of an actual wolfman form. Then again, that wolfman look is often the worst part of a werewolf movie, so that may have been a wise choice, rather than ruin an otherwise attractive movie with shitty special effects.

I still haven't seen Underworld II or Dog Soldiers yet.

[KenK]

William in Underworld Evolution was probably the best looking werewolf I've seen on film in a good long while. As a whole, I prefer bipedal werewolves, but I appreciate quadrapeds every now and them.

The werewolves in Ginger Snaps III were pretty impressive given the budget. It was all a matter of lighting shots and how the suits are constructed for the performers. It's why guys like Brian Steele and Doug Jones are getting more attention as creature performers, not to mention actually credit in films as members of the cast, just like any other actor.

[jesse_custer]

I've never seen a better Werewolf transformation than what was in American Werewolf in London. It's amazing how well those effects hold up.

I'm interested in seeing Wolf because of Nicholson and Mike Nichols directing.

[hoffmandu]

So far, the best werewolf movie that I've seen was Blood and Chocolate. Great soundtrack, great story, decent acting, lovely cinematography. Only problem was that they were working with a limited budget and decided to steer clear of an actual wolfman form. Then again, that wolfman look is often the worst part of a werewolf movie, so that may have been a wise choice, rather than ruin an otherwise attractive movie with shitty special effects.

I still haven't seen Underworld II or Dog Soldiers yet.

Hey, FYI, the hype of Dog Soldiers is totally warranted. I checked it out a few months back, damn good.

[Tien Long]

I'm partial to the crouched two-legged version that occasionally reverts to four-legged in order to outrun its prey.

I agree. Love these types of wolves. For me, the face of a wolf is one of its most distinguishing features, especially its protruded snout. I don't like werewolf designs that forgo this detail, like the Lon Chaney design. On the other hand, I don't like it when the werewolf is merely just a huge wolf, walking on all fours. That to me doesn't capture the spirit of a creature who is part wolf and man.

Eh. Cant say as Im very fond of the "monkey-wolf" from Buffy myself.

Dagnabbit, it was goofy looking!

Glad I wasn't the only one who hated Oz's look. Seriously, he was more "wereape" then "werewolf."

I like my werewolves in gi sporting nunchucks.

I know what you mean:

http://www.talbain.com/files/cap4.jpg

For me, Jon Talbain is the greatest werewolf, period. As for why I like werewolves better than vampires, i feel that vampires are often depicted as being very artistocratic and arrogant. They have a very pretentious aura to them. Werewolves, however, are a more honest expression of one's emotions and seem to possess a closer relationship w/ nature.

[Murrocko]

I'm partial to the crouched two-legged version that occasionally reverts to four-legged in order to outrun its prey.

Yup, that's how I love 'em.


I was wondering if you guys have any movies you'd recomend feature these furry fiends. Also how many takes has there been where the man was in full control of the beast and spoke and what not. You know just loved being a werewolf and what not.

[The Batman]

I like mine to be funny, really good at basketball, and able to surf on top of a van when need be.

[Taskmaster]

I prefer the full blown CGI monster look (think Van Helsing). A guy who turns into a normal wolf or just gets hairier, really isn't that threatening.


Amen, Van Helsing might not have been that great of a flick, but the Werewolves were awesome

[hoffmandu]

Amen, Van Helsing might not have been that great of a flick, but the Werewolves were awesome


"Not That Great of a flick"? Yeesh, mang, I would rank that as worst movie ever made............and trust me, I know it in and out. My film-foolish GF is a huge fan of it. I've watched it twice as many times as anyone on this forum, easy.

[J. Robb]

When I was a kid I liked to watch "Howling II" a lot. There's something about Sybil Danning that resonates with a 13 year-old boy...