Is Banner a homophobe?

[Sparda]

I think this has never been discussed before. Everyone discussed Nightcrawler being homophob but don't know why no one has wondered if Bruce was after saying "HULK STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!"

It seems as a kid he gets picked on alot and probably been called alot of homophobic names. You guys think, deep down inside he's homophob?

[ThePhenom]

I don't really think it's worth reading into, if a person makes a comment of like fag in passing with no real derogatory intent I wouldn't call them a homophobe quite yet, and especially being in my teen's still it things like this come up as being force of habit for lots of people.

Also Hulk was just kinda enforcing his straightness, and remember Hulk is Banner's subconscious, this by no means actually makes Banner homophobe, nor Hulk though.

[Will.S]

I never really considered it but I just saw that as Ultimate Hulk being Ultimate Hulk.

[The Foreigner]

I think this has never been discussed before. Everyone discussed Nightcrawler being homophob but don't know why no one has wondered if Bruce was after saying "HULK STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!"

It seems as a kid he gets picked on alot and probably been called alot of homophobic names. You guys think, deep down inside he's homophob?

Hulk said that, not Bruce. There's a difference.

A virtually mindless monster was accused of being gay, so he angrily replies that he's not. I wouldn't read into it too much.

[Beast]

Ah, a fresh can of worms has been opened. :)

[Mike Smash!]

I thought it was just a reference to "Blazing Saddles".

MONGO STRAIGHT!

[trickster]

Oh so if I say I'm white, (which I am), then I'm a racist? The most this board will allow is :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[twilight]

He might be a homophob but I don't think he's a homophobe.

[Sean Whitmore]

You must be joking.

Ultimate Hulk LOVES the [bleep].


SEAN

[The Comic Book Guy]

Can someone please explain to me why it is that whenever a guy says "No I'm not gay." In whatever tone of voice, but fails to add the PC "But there's nothing wrong with that!" He is instantly called homophobe, intolerant, bigot, etc?

So what? Hulk's not gay. He stated it forcefully (as Hulk tends to do).
So does Marvel need to send him to "therapy" like Isaiah Washington over on Gray's Anatomy was forced to do?

The PC Nazis are getting uber ridiculous.

[Joey Friday]

Also, why is okay to call a person homophobe but not arachnophobe or claustrophobe? Suddenly people are what they fear, in this case gays, but when they fear water or clowns or something else it's wrong to say "Ha ha, yer an agorophobe!" That's stupid.

P.S. Not liking the idea of two people of the same sex having sex make you fearful of them, or a homophobe, it just makes you disgusted at the thought of it. Hell, I'm disgusted at the thought of Janet Reno, Rosanne Barr, Oprah, even my parents doing it, but it doesn't mean I'm some sort of phobe.

I rest my case.

[mattx110]

i'd also like to mention, and this might not be valid for ultimate hulk. but hulk sometimes has decent reasons to hate and go nuts, and sometimes, he's just a crazy monster without paranoid delusions... so if he hates gay people, it probably comes from some root hate of people being happy in general, or him lashing out for being alone and not having betty. in the hulk first 6 issues, he resented being mis-represented as a monster, so, he might have some mental thing about being mis-reprented or used.

or, well, i agree with mike smash!, it's a mongo reference.

either way, it's not like hulk is supposed to be a good person is he?

[tetragene]

I'm not quite sure how you could have gotten "homophobe" just from Hulk strongly stating his orientation :confused: I agree that, in general, a lot of people seem to be super-sensitive about things such as this, when there is really no obvious or implied phobia/hate. And plus, Hulk is...Hulk, a guy whose not known for ration or logic. I don't think you can look into too much of anything that comes out of Hulk's mouth.


So does Marvel need to send him to "therapy" like Isaiah Washington over on Gray's Anatomy was forced to do?

Eh? Where did you hear that? He wasn't forced to seek therapy, he did it himself after ABC issued a statement about their disapproval with his choice of words. This was after he denied, twice on camera, that he said what he was accused of--just to have it debunked by two castmates. He wasn't forced to do it, he did it to save his ass. And I'd say there's a huge difference in between what Washington did/said and what Hulk said (or what posters may believe is "behind" what he said).

[myslead]

i see it as a sign of insecurity toward his relationship with Betty.

and for Isaiah Washington

http://lifeandstylemag.hollywood.com/2007/01/life_style_exclusive_isaiah_wa.php

[ivesaidway2much]

I thought a homophobe was someone who was afraid they might be gay. But what does Ultimate Hulk have to be afraid of? If he really wants to have gay sex with somebody, outside of maybe Ultimate Thor and Ultimate Thing (I didn't count Colossus because I'm not so sure he would be opposed to the idea), I don't think there are very many people who could stop him.

[The Comic Book Guy]

IEh? Where did you hear that? He wasn't forced to seek therapy, he did it himself after ABC issued a statement about their disapproval with his choice of words. This was after he denied, twice on camera, that he said what he was accused of--just to have it debunked by two castmates. He wasn't forced to do it, he did it to save his ass. And I'd say there's a huge difference in between what Washington did/said and what Hulk said (or what posters may believe is "behind" what he said).

The point is that Isaiah Washington has freedom of speech. If he called his cast mate a fag, then he's an ass for doing it. But he shouldn't be threatened with losing his job, or feel the need to have therapy to prove how sorry he is, or even go out meeting gay and lesbian community representatives over the incident. He only made himself look bad in using that word.

This country and society in general is getting so out of hand with all of this sort of crap. If somebody is rude or obnoxious, or says "fag" it doesn't mean that they're some breed of bigoted Neanderthal. It implies they just may be a horse's ass, but that's it. And people should have thick enough skins not to demand someone's head on a plate because of it.

Hulk shouted "Hulk straight!"
Great. So what? Hulk's not gay. That doesn't mean he or Banner should be maligned, or that anything negative should be read into the statement.

[Deus ex Chris]

Can someone please explain to me why it is that whenever a guy says "No I'm not gay." In whatever tone of voice, but fails to add the PC "But there's nothing wrong with that!" He is instantly called homophobe, intolerant, bigot, etc?
I'm not sure what planet you're living on because that sure doesn't happen much on mine. In fact, those people who feel the need to add on that "but there's nothing wrong with that" are the ones who're more suspect.


This country and society in general is getting so out of hand with all of this sort of crap. If somebody is rude or obnoxious, or says "fag" it doesn't mean that they're some breed of bigoted Neanderthal. It implies they just may be a horse's ass, but that's it. And people should have thick enough skins not to demand someone's head on a plate because of it.
I disagree. Words like "faggot" and "nigger" have absolutely no place in a work environment, and if people can't keep their bigoted personal views out of their professional lives, then they really don't deserve those professional lives.

[The Comic Book Guy]

Bullshit.

Freedom of speech applies to assholes just as much as anyone else. And if your feelings get hurt because somebody calls you a name then you need to grow some nards or a thicker skin. Children are taught that names can't hurt you. But some adults act like 3-year olds when they get called a "fag" or a a racial epithet.

Everybody says or does something others of us will not like. I personally have a thing against Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons. I don't like them and their creepy little churches or the way they're always trying to convert me. But if I was told that my new teaching assistant was a JH or an LDS, I wouldn't say "Oh no! I don't want to work with that person." (Which I can actually do in my job). Because despite the huge differences between us, I recognize that that person needs a job as bad as I do.

But of course, you're right - we should fire anybody that says "fag" or "Wetback". We should send anyone not like us to therapy to see what's wrong with them. Hell, why not make them move from their homes and throw rotten vegetables at their children. We more highly evolved people can't have such throwbacks living in utopia with us....

:rolleyes:

I don't know what world you live on, but in mine we call that attitude fascism.

[tetragene]

Ok...but why would any work environment allow employees to insult/taunt/berate each other or physically attack one another (let's not forget that Washington choked Dempsey too) without any consequences? That doesn't create a very healthy or professional work environment at all. I think total and complete freedom are pretty unrealistic ideals--there have to be some boundaries, otherwise everything would be chaotic.

[The Comic Book Guy]

I agree.

I never said we should look past physical assaults. I said we should be mature enough to not get worked up over someone ignorant saying a racial slur or calling someone a derogatory term because they are gay or straight or transgender or whatever.

I am Native American. I've been called all of the obvious names. In the army everybody called me "Chief". I'm not a damned chief. But I never felt the need to punch a guy in the mouth for calling me one, or demanded his job or an apology or whatever. You just shine it on and continue doing what you do. You're the bigger man for it.

And when I see people flipping out on Isaiah Washington because he said "fag", or listen to Rosie O'Donnell loosing it because Kelly Ripa told Clay Aiken not to put his hand over her mouth (I would have told him the same thing), insisting that these are somehow unpardonable rebukes of the gay community, that's hypersensitive and moronic.

The Hulk isn't gay and neither is Banner. More importantly the character(s) are also not homophobic or bigots. To even breach the question seems like more overly sensitive bullcrap.

[Kid Kyoto]

Um, Ultimate Hulk kills people and eats them.

Beyond that any accusations of homophobia, racism or poor personal hygene are irrelevant.

[maczero]

I agree.

I never said we should look past physical assaults. I said we should be mature enough to not get worked up over someone ignorant saying a racial slur or calling someone a derogatory term because they are gay or straight or transgender or whatever.

I am Native American. I've been called all of the obvious names. In the army everybody called me "Chief". I'm not a damned chief. But I never felt the need to punch a guy in the mouth for calling me one, or demanded his job or an apology or whatever. You just shine it on and continue doing what you do. You're the bigger man for it.You may be the bigger man for it but how would you feel if racist attitudes were the reason you were passed over for a promotion?

Back on topic: Hulk affirming he's not gay doesn't make him a homophobe. Hell, I consider myself liberal and open minded as the next guy but I'd have a problem if someone called me gay. I treat it the same as getting someone's ethnicity/nationality wrong.

[Deus ex Chris]

Freedom of speech applies to assholes just as much as anyone else. And if your feelings get hurt because somebody calls you a name then you need to grow some nards or a thicker skin. Children are taught that names can't hurt you. But some adults act like 3-year olds when they get called a "fag" or a a racial epithet..
Oh, I absolutely advocate freedom of speech. No one should be imprisoned or fined for using epithets, but businesses should absolutely promote the most comfortable and safe environment for ALL of their employees, and if one individual refers to another as "nigger" or "faggot" or "kike" or whatever, then said individual is disrupting that environment, and that shouldn't be tolerated. If he (or she) wants to be a bigot, they need to do it on their own time, not on the time of their employer.


Everybody says or does something others of us will not like. I personally have a thing against Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons. I don't like them and their creepy little churches or the way they're always trying to convert me. But if I was told that my new teaching assistant was a JH or an LDS, I wouldn't say "Oh no! I don't want to work with that person." (Which I can actually do in my job). Because despite the huge differences between us, I recognize that that person needs a job as bad as I do.
Good for you. Welcome to the 21st century.


But of course, you're right - we should fire anybody that says "fag" or "Wetback". We should send anyone not like us to therapy to see what's wrong with them. Hell, why not make them move from their homes and throw rotten vegetables at their children. We more highly evolved people can't have such throwbacks living in utopia with us.....
Exaggeration will get you nowhere.


I don't know what world you live on, but in mine we call that attitude fascism.
Well, then you are living on your own planet because that isn't fascism.

[Omega Alpha]

The point is that Isaiah Washington has freedom of speech. If he called his cast mate a fag, then he's an ass for doing it. But he shouldn't be threatened with losing his job, or feel the need to have therapy to prove how sorry he is, or even go out meeting gay and lesbian community representatives over the incident. He only made himself look bad in using that word.


He has the freedom of speach and the freedom to be a homophobe, but ABC or the producers have the freedom to not tolerate people like him working for them, freedom works both ways.

Anyway, back to the topic, Ult. Hulk is not gay just because he expressed his sexuality.

[Sparda]

Ya you guys are right, Hulk is probably not a homophobe considering he's....well the hulk. He mangles and eats people, so I guess topic closed on the hulk on that one. But still you would wonder if the hulk was ever in a prison without women for a long time....... JK, he'd just mangle and smash again.

[Psychocandy]

Hulk is gayest one there is!!!

[The Comic Book Guy]

The thought of a horny Hulk as a cell mate in a prison with a 23-hour a day lockdown is probably the scariest damned thing anyone gay or straight can imagine.

[Gargus]

Well personally I think he is a fictional comic book charcter and injecting this much reality into a comic charcter is pointless because he isnt real.

And hulk saying he is straight was in response to him being called gay, so not he is a phobe but saying he isnt something he was called.

But really when you start thinking this much about a comic charcter its time to stop, youll take all the fun out of it if your cross examinging things that arent even real or have emotions or feelings.

[Nyssane]

I never said we should look past physical assaults. I said we should be mature enough to not get worked up over someone ignorant saying a racial slur or calling someone a derogatory term because they are gay or straight or transgender or whatever.

People handle things differently. I've been dealing with people calling me "faggot" my whole life, and it never gets any easier for me. You have to realize some people are just more sensitive than others, and even though you might not get hurt if someone calls you an ethnic slur, other people will. Maturity has nothing to do with sensitivity.

On the topic of Hulk, I don't mind at all if the writer is spoofing a movie, but it irks me if he has to get angry over being called something he's not. I look slightly ethnic (the South African side of me) and people often ask if I'm Italian or Hispanic or whatnot. I just respond with a "no o.o" and be on my way. I think it is slightly offensive when people DO get so agitated over being questioned on their sexuality. I don't give a damn if people think I'm straight because I'm not. But as Hulk isn't exactly the most intelligent creature on Ultimate Earth, I'm not really worried. The real question is why Hulk is even discussing his sexual orientation. I never thought of him really as a sexual being.

[DLFerguson]

Can someone please explain to me why it is that whenever a guy says "No I'm not gay." In whatever tone of voice, but fails to add the PC "But there's nothing wrong with that!" He is instantly called homophobe, intolerant, bigot, etc?

So what? Hulk's not gay. He stated it forcefully (as Hulk tends to do).
So does Marvel need to send him to "therapy" like Isaiah Washington over on Gray's Anatomy was forced to do?

The PC Nazis are getting uber ridiculous.

I'm with you.

[Lanowar]

Um, Ultimate Hulk kills people and eats them.

Beyond that any accusations of homophobia, racism or poor personal hygene are irrelevant.

I think this comment ends the conversation funny how some things rank in society I mean imagine if Hannibal was say a homophobe it'll go.

"You see Hannibal called someone a fag"

"Dude...did'nt he like eat a bunch of people"

"Yea...but everyone knows Homophobes outrank cannibals in the media wall chart"

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As for that actor thing, it's how the PR machine works PR works mainly on the idea that people are goldfish who forget after a week and sheep like as in they'll just feed what is given. So if you call someone a fag the PR machine gets the whole "Oh he is doing therepy he wants to learn more" yadda yadda yadda and that'll get most people satisfied. Someone does'nt change how they think so easily, negative or positive. Most men are homophobic it's that lad culture how many times have you been with your friends and someone's said "oh thats so gay" or "stop being a fag" you see and hear it ALL the time. There's a bigger problem in society then one actor said someone was a fag.

[sugarmanandrobin]

People handle things differently. I've been dealing with people calling me "faggot" my whole life, and it never gets any easier for me. You have to realize some people are just more sensitive than others, and even though you might not get hurt if someone calls you an ethnic slur, other people will. Maturity has nothing to do with sensitivity.

On the topic of Hulk, I don't mind at all if the writer is spoofing a movie, but it irks me if he has to get angry over being called something he's not. I look slightly ethnic (the South African side of me) and people often ask if I'm Italian or Hispanic or whatnot. I just respond with a "no o.o" and be on my way. I think it is slightly offensive when people DO get so agitated over being questioned on their sexuality. I don't give a damn if people think I'm straight because I'm not. But as Hulk isn't exactly the most intelligent creature on Ultimate Earth, I'm not really worried. The real question is why Hulk is even discussing his sexual orientation. I never thought of him really as a sexual being.

On Free Speech: What you are describing is being victimized. It's vastly different from the idea of free speech. When someone goes out of their way to make any derogatory comment about another person, we're no longer exercising our first amendment rights. We're abusing them. But if I want to talk with my friend about a wop, chink, faggot, nigger or wetback (and i am part wetback and part honky so I got to sleep on both sides of white/brown racial slur slumber party), I shouldn't have to watch my mouth around him if he is not a member of those ethnicities. Granted, it's just common courtesy not to mention racial slurs around that race, but come on, if it happens it happens. If the person is noticeably treating you different, then sure, you can act out, but just speaking about someone and referring to them as a slur? That's what this biggest outcry is about in the media. And the funny thing...he is gay, he just wants people to call him a homosexual another way. So what makes a word offensive? Why can a black person say nigger and not a white person? Why can Jeff Foxworthy make a fortune off of lowbrow redneck jokes and not receive hatemail by the truckload? Because that group doesn't find the term offensive within a certain context. Just like whatever actor REFERRED (not directly victimizing him) to whatever other actor as a faggot, Actor A certainly wasn't offended by it. Thus he said it without compunction. The same way members of the same race may lob around racial slurs like under-arm curveballs at a softball tournament without any kind of social indictment. But that's okay, because we chalk it up to culture, right? So until I can't call another white guy a honky or my mexican brother a wetback and get laughs, I'm gonna call a [insert racial slur here] a [insert racial slur here] in my own time, going off of my own sensitivities. One for all or all for none time.

As for the Hulk telling people he's straight...this hulk isn't he meandering monosyllabic beast of 616. Remember...ULTIMATE Hulk. He's more like a psychotic, sadistic jock with cannibalistic tendencies.

[Harold of the Rocks]

The thought of a horny Hulk as a cell mate in a prison with a 23-hour a day lockdown is probably the scariest damned thing anyone gay or straight can imagine.
gammaphobe.

[maczero]

The real question is why Hulk is even discussing his sexual orientation. I never thought of him really as a sexual being.Not a sexual being? This is the same Hulk that went on a rampage when his woman was dating Freddie Prinze Jr. The same Hulk that only slowed down during said rampage to look at Wasp's boobs. Not to mention, he demanded a small village to turn over their women folk to serve as his harem. Anyway, Ult. Hulk is more testerone and libido than pure rage. Think of him as the jock from hell.

[Omega Alpha]

The thought of a horny Hulk as a cell mate in a prison with a 23-hour a day lockdown is probably the scariest damned thing anyone gay or straight can imagine.


Quoted for truth.

[Brian M.]

If I say I'm white am I a racist?
If I say I'm a man am I a sexist?

[sugarmanandrobin]

Wait...maybe this whole HULK STRAIGHT thread is onto something...maybe Hulk is so vocal about his sexuality because he's in painful denial about the true state of things. I mean, how hard did Banner really try to get Betty back? He put on a big show of destruction and mayhem to convince her, but that's a bit over the top, you know? I think he and Colossus should exchange numbers. Because it there's one customer at the Hulk deli that can handle the size of the servings it's gayproved Pete of that lovable bunch of misfits and mutant miscreants, the X-men.

[The Comic Book Guy]

Wait...maybe this whole HULK STRAIGHT thread is onto something...maybe Hulk is so vocal about his sexuality because he's in painful denial about the true state of things. I mean, how hard did Banner really try to get Betty back? He put on a big show of destruction and mayhem to convince her, but that's a bit over the top, you know? I think he and Colossus should exchange numbers. Because it there's one customer at the Hulk deli that can handle the size of the servings it's gayproved Pete of that lovable bunch of misfits and mutant miscreants, the X-men.

Hmm....you could have something here. :rolleyes:

BTW, Colossus is gay? Man, I have been out of the loop. Last I heard he was quite the ladies man, at least in Mutant circles.

[Omega Alpha]

Hmm....you could have something here. :rolleyes:

BTW, Colossus is gay? Man, I have been out of the loop. Last I heard he was quite the ladies man, at least in Mutant circles.

Ultimate Colossus is gay, 616 is straight, but was never a ladies man, he only had one relationship and slept with two or three other women.

[sugarmanandrobin]

Ultimate Colossus is gay, 616 is straight, but was never a ladies man, he only had one relationship and slept with two or three other women.

People he has hooked up or possibly hooked up with:

Callisto
Kitty Pryde
Rogue
The chick from the Secret Wars II

And I think there are more.

[Indigo Al]

People he has hooked up or possibly hooked up with:

Callisto
Kitty Pryde
Rogue
The chick from the Secret Wars II

And I think there are more.

The 2 Fall People chicks, at the same time.

[JerrBear81]

Can someone please explain to me why it is that whenever a guy says "No I'm not gay." In whatever tone of voice, but fails to add the PC "But there's nothing wrong with that!" He is instantly called homophobe, intolerant, bigot, etc?

So what? Hulk's not gay. He stated it forcefully (as Hulk tends to do).
So does Marvel need to send him to "therapy" like Isaiah Washington over on Gray's Anatomy was forced to do?

The PC Nazis are getting uber ridiculous.

Tone of voice matters here. I've heard plenty of straight men say they aren't gay in a very disgusted tone. And most of those straight people hate gays (One of the guys "If it weren't for the fact I'd go to jail I'd kill as many faggots as I wanted to!").

After a while it gets so old that once you hear one straight man say calmly, and in a non-disgusted voice, that they aren't gay your experience automatically makes you think they may be a bigot.

Edit: A little thought on experience. When one's experience has taught them something over and over again, they usually won't believe what's in front of their eyes based on their experience.

[Frank]

The 2 Fall People chicks, at the same time.

He had a Million Dollars?

[Dermie]

People he has hooked up or possibly hooked up with:

Callisto
Kitty Pryde
Rogue
The chick from the Secret Wars II

And I think there are more.

He had a kid with some woman from the Savage Land...

[gorthon616]

Tone of voice matters here. I've heard plenty of straight men say they aren't gay in a very disgusted tone. And most of those straight people hate gays (One of the guys "If it weren't for the fact I'd go to jail I'd kill as many faggots as I wanted to!").

After a while it gets so old that once you hear one straight man say calmly, and in a non-disgusted voice, that they aren't gay your experience automatically makes you think they may be a bigot.

Edit: A little thought on experience. When one's experience has taught them something over and over again, they usually won't believe what's in front of their eyes based on their experience.

Curious then, if someone disagreed with homosexuality as a lifestyle choice, would you automatically assume that they are a "biggot" or is someone who would adhere to the statement that "If it weren't for the fact I'd go to jail I'd kill as many faggots as I wanted to!"?

I've always found it curious that most people who profess to be open-minded, have a very close-minded point of view on what it must mean to have an open mind. If people can and should choose to live a lifestyle that suits them (with the presumed generic caveats), then why then shouldn't it follow that people should be able to view different lifestyle and be able to assess their qualitative worth? And if there judgment leads to such an inference, that one is good and the other bad? Or perhaps one is good and the other better?

And certainly if the argument here is (as it seems is the argument throughout this thread) that a "homophobic" point of view is bad, whereas a.... lets say non-homophobic point of view is good, then isn't that exactly what's going on here?

And while certainly we can argue and discuss what we believe is right (as we should), I find it disingenuous that this thread seems dedicated to defending the homosexual, who is presumably merely making honest and informed deductions about himself, his life, and what he values as right and wrong, while demeaning the homophobe, who is likewise presumably merely making honest and informed deductions about himself, his life, and what he values as right and wrong.

[RazzleDazzle]

whoopise, repeat

[RazzleDazzle]

At first I thought it was a joke to show Captain America’s mentality. However during the mythical Ulti!Hulk vs Wolverine #2, Bruce goes bonkers when someone is about to suggest that Bruce is less than manly if not mock his sexuality.

Banner is violently homophobic. The Hulk comes out when Banner is about go into a rage or so it's been developed as such. I just can’t help but wonder where that’s from. Perhaps one day we might find out the root of his homopobia is n’t just mundane fear or ignorance. Perhaps someone takes a bent from his Regular Universe origins and makes it that Bruce was abused as a child, however instead of verbal and physical abuse, it’s sexual abuse.

I know in real life this wouldn’t be ‘likely’ and I realize gay men are not child abusers (most child molesters consider themselves straight); but it’s a comic book character. Let’s make it dramatic and painful. However I don’t think the audience of today would take such a background very well.

[ednemo]

After reading 4 pages of this I just wanted to illustrate my view. The Hulk to me is the greatest characterization of what a weak individual would consider to be the definition of Manliness. A big alpha male, stronger than any other, not taking grief off of anyone. Sort of a cross between John Wayne and Arnold Schwarzenager, (you decide which one eats people. :D)

To imply that Hulk was anything less than the pinacle of manliness would of course enrage him.

[tangentman]

To imply that Hulk was anything less than the pinacle of manliness would of course enrage him.

I think that statement shows us exactly how far we have NOT evolved in regards to sexual orientation. How can there be "PC Nazism" when heterosexists equate male homosexuality with "less than a man"?

[Zengei]

I think that statement shows us exactly how far we have NOT evolved in regards to sexual orientation. How can there be "PC Nazism" when heterosexists equate male homosexuality with "less than a man"?
Uh, I think you missed his point entirely: "The Hulk to me is the greatest characterization of what a weak individual would consider to be the definition of Manliness." He's saying a weak individual would think that being the strongest, not carrying about anything, and banging as many chicks as possible is what it means to be manly. And to that weak individual to not be the strongest, and to care about something, and to not want to bang as many chicks as possible in a liquored up night is to be "less than a man". Since the poster therefore claims that the Hulk is the epitome of such a weak individual it would stand to reason that if someone called the Hulk gay, he would become enraged.

[ednemo]

Uh, I think you missed his point entirely: "The Hulk to me is the greatest characterization of what a weak individual would consider to be the definition of Manliness." He's saying a weak individual would think that being the strongest, not carrying about anything, and banging as many chicks as possible is what it means to be manly. And to that weak individual to not be the strongest, and to care about something, and to not want to bang as many chicks as possible in a liquored up night is to be "less than a man". Since the poster therefore claims that the Hulk is the epitome of such a weak individual it would stand to reason that if someone called the Hulk gay, he would become enraged.

Thank you, Zengei. I'm glad someone besides me pointed that out.