Mutant League 01/25/2007 PM Game 8: S_G & Joe Acro vs. Novaya Havoc & Nyssane

[mattbib]

Welcome to our second match of the day...

In the first corner we have Sophisticated_Gamer & Joe Acro's X-Ploiters (Cable, Leech, Sabra, Forge, Hybrid, Shatterstar, Silver Samurai)

vs

In the other corner is Novaya Havoc & Nyssane's FAB-U-LOUS (...and Sage) (Dazzler, Cargill, Sage, Amelia Voght, Prism, Mastermind II, Elixir)

Both participants have submitted strategies:

[mattbib]

The plan is simple.

Hybrid starts by assaulting Mastermind II telepathically. The speed and effect of her power makes it the most dangerous, so she is neutralized first, presumably by Hybrid knocking her unconscious.
As Hybrid does his thing, Silver Samurai and Sabra move up the field, one via teleportation ring, the other via her super-speed or flight. The Silver Samurai immediately attacks Elixir after teleporting, knocking him unconscious. Sabra, using her paralyzing quills, attempts to take down Amelia. If Amelia has already gone through transubstantiation, Sabra aims for Dazzler. If Amelia is already transforming others along with herself, Sabra holds back. Samurai only stays if Amelia can transform Elixir (assuming she'd want to) before he could get there.
Forge teleports himself and the remaining members of the team into the fray using his sorcery. As they teleport, Leech raises his field, which he expands to the fullest upon arrival. As they arrive, Cable activates his gravometric ability and weighs Sage and Frenzy to the ground since they are the two trained combatants of the group and the biggest threats without powers.
The rest of the team cleans up at this point.
If by chance Leech is knocked unconscious, Hybrid manipulates the weather (probably just the winds) to keep the other team unfocused. Cable is forced to use his gravometric powers to keep Amelia and Frenzy from affecting the fight until they can be dealt with.

[mattbib]

Our team knows that Hybrid is the one to beat this round. Immediately, Dazz shoots a laser through Hybrid's head, knowing of his regenerative abilities. He's out for the count for a while.
Martinique then creates the illusion of our team running toward the opposing team. At this time, Voght uses her line-of-sight teleportation to teleport away not only our team -- but the other team's weapons! Forge and Cable's guns, along with Shatterstar and Samurai's blades, have disappeared from the other team.
Leech's powers have not yet been able to disable our team. Amelia drops Dazzler, Elixir, Prism, and Cargill from the air; Cargill holding Elixir to brunt the fall. Dazzler creates a "dazzle-blast" off of Prism, knocking the young, untrained Leech unconscious.
Voght, Sage, and Martinique re-appear on the other side of the team, with Voght and Sage blasting at Cable and Forge with their own weapons as Martinique makes the illusion that the two men are blasting at each other. Dazzler and Prism fend of the Samurai and Sabra, as Cargill battles with both Shatterstar and Samurai.
Elixir touches Hybrid and uses his powers to imbue him with a slow disease, cancelling his regenerative abilities.
Elixir then powers up the Dazzler, who encases Sabra in a "laser shield," rendering her immobile. Prism walks into the laser, charges, and detonates, KOing Sabra.
Cargill is able to KO both the unarmed Samurai and Shatterstar with her strength.
The team then makes quick work of Forge and Cable, if they're still standing after Sage and Voght made work of them with their own weapons.
Naturally, Elixir heals Hybrid at the end, because we're here to totally par-tay and not KO people.

[Brian M.]

Since when can Forge teleport? Does he still have his Shaman powers?

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I know he has the shaman type stuff, didnt know teleporting was one of them. although i suppose he could have made some sort of device.

[Brian M.]

I know he has the shaman type stuff, didnt know teleporting was one of them. although i suppose he could have made some sort of device.

What would the device be made from? Remember he doesn't bring a lab with him...also I thought he use to be a shaman but hasn't used or can't use it them since...for some reason Mutant Massarce comes to mind.

[blinkinrogue]

shouldn't leech's powers be affecting his teammates too?

[Brian M.]

shouldn't leech's powers be affecting his teammates too?

He affects mutant powers, Cable would still be operational.

[blinkinrogue]

ah ok, so i guess he'd affect sabra and Hybrid(?) too?

[Brian M.]

ah ok, so i guess he'd affect sabra and Hybrid(?) too?

not their technology and Hybrid has somekind of mystical powers.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

What would the device be made from? Remember he doesn't bring a lab with him...also I thought he use to be a shaman but hasn't used or can't use it them since...for some reason Mutant Massarce comes to mind.


The only reason i can remember him not using that shaman stuff was because of what he did in 'nam.


As for the device, id assume these teams were going into battle prepared, hence the strategies

[Brian M.]

The only reason i can remember him not using that shaman stuff was because of what he did in 'nam.


As for the device, id assume these teams were going into battle prepared, hence the strategies

Forge can't carry anything with him that he doesn't have with him normally. A gun is usually all you see him with.

[mattbib]

Forge used his mystical abilitites as recently as the last X-Factor series.

From Marvel.com/universe:
"He also has a high mystical aptitude and has developed several magical spells, including a so-called "spirit sight," the ability to open portals to other dimensions, and the ability to use others' souls to enhance his mystical spells."

While I think what S_G is having Forge do is pushing it, at least insofar as the time involved, if he can open portals to other dimensions then it stands to reason he can open them to come back, thus simulating teleportation.

[Brian M.]

Forge used his mystical abilitites as recently as the last X-Factor series.

From Marvel.com/universe:
"He also has a high mystical aptitude and has developed several magical spells, including a so-called "spirit sight," the ability to open portals to other dimensions, and the ability to use others' souls to enhance his mystical spells."

While I think what S_G is having Forge do is pushing it, at least insofar as the time involved, if he can open portals to other dimensions then it stands to reason he can open them to come back, thus simulating teleportation.

Sounds good.

[mattbib]

I have to say, that while it has issues and pushes plausibility, I'm somewhat impressed with the simplicity and effectiveness of S_G's strategy.

Of course, Dazzler is seemingly taking Hybrid out almost immediately, something S_G doesn't defend against in his first moves. They're definitely not holding back either.

These two strategies are fairly evenly matched.

[Mikl C]

That was so less funny than I'd anticipated.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I dont want to tweak Nyssanes or Vaya's berries too much, but i think Dazzler will probably be the key player in this

[Affinity]

Naturally, Elixir heals Hybrid at the end, because we're here to totally par-tay and not KO people.

LOL. Loves it.

Truly truly in all honesty this was the first match I voted in 'cuz it was the easiest to follow. I truly voted without bias, I swear. As hard as it may be to believe.

[Novaya Havoc]

That was so less funny than I'd anticipated.


Sorry! It was going to be, but Nyzz and I had some COMMUNICATION ERRORS

[Nyssane]

Sorry! It was going to be, but Nyzz and I had some COMMUNICATION ERRORS

Round 2 will be better! :(

[Joe Acro]

We hadn't actually specifically planned for an initial strike by Dazzler (something I had realized last night after submitting the strategy). Eh.

What sound is allowing Dazzler to form the initial laser? Can she fire it (and it get there) before Hybrid takes down Martinique?

As for the removal of weapons, would Sabra still have her paralyzing quills? Would Samurai still have his teleportation ring?

As for Elixir, I was under the impression that he could not cause harm to others with his powers unless emotionally stimulated, like being enraged.

[The Lucky One]

Of course, Dazzler is seemingly taking Hybrid out almost immediately, something S_G doesn't defend against in his first moves. They're definitely not holding back either.

That's the move I question- I know Dazz is a good shot and all, but a head shot from 100 yards away? That's bordering on sniper rifle distance. Is she THAT accurate?

-D

[Sophisticated_Gamer]

Also, would dazzler really go for a head shot right away? I mean c'mon...she dosen't know hybrid and his regeneration abilities, so she is basically trying to kill him, which totally takes her out of caracter...am I right?

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

That's the move I question- I know Dazz is a good shot and all, but a head shot from 100 yards away? That's bordering on sniper rifle distance. Is she THAT accurate?

-D

Well

Light is


She doesnt have to worry about wind variables

Like a laser

pachooo pachoo

[Sophisticated_Gamer]

Well

Light is


She doesnt have to worry about wind variables

Like a laser

pachooo pachoo

Ya, but can you really hold out your arm and be that crazy acurate that you can shoot someone in the head that far away?

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Ya, but can you really hold out your arm and be that crazy acurate that you can shoot someone in the head that far away?

100 yards is a football field. I can point at someones head from the otherside of a football field. Seems completely plausible to me. Plus, she can make a pretty big light burst

[The Lucky One]

Well

Light is

She doesnt have to worry about wind variables

Like a laser

pachooo pachoo

If you believe that, there's some Imperial stormtroopers I'd like you to meet...
:rolleyes:

-D

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

They only couldnt hit Luke because Jango Fett has late stage glaucoma, a fatal flaw in the clone army

[mattbib]

100 yards is a football field. I can point at someones head from the otherside of a football field. Seems completely plausible to me. Plus, she can make a pretty big light burstPointing and accuracy of aim are extremely different animals. I can point too, but hitting a target the size of a human head from 100 yards, is hard enough with a rested rifle with an accurately sited scope. The chance of Ali connecting on her first shot, at that distance, just by pointing is highly unlikely.

[Mikl C]

Dazzler has been hitting long range targets with her lasers for years now. I'm sure she could pull it off.

[Novaya Havoc]

Ya, but can you really hold out your arm and be that crazy acurate that you can shoot someone in the head that far away?

Dazzler has done it before -- Uncanny X-Men #260. And right into the barrel of a gun, no less.

She has lots of training in her powers. She could easily take out Hybrid, and it doesn't take that much precision, as they expect him to regenerate. Poof. Dazz is the heavy blaster of the team.

[Sophisticated_Gamer]

Thank you mattbib...also, wouldn't it be possible for hybrid to see this and dodge it?

[Novaya Havoc]

Also, would dazzler really go for a head shot right away? I mean c'mon...she dosen't know hybrid and his regeneration abilities, so she is basically trying to kill him, which totally takes her out of caracter...am I right?

They know who they're facing before battle.

They also have SUPERCOMPUTER SAGE if you want to be accurate. Blam blam, all up in y'face. She did a killing blow because they fully expect him to recover from even a killing blow. She -- and our other team members -- do nothing of the sort to other members of your squad.

[Sophisticated_Gamer]

They know who they're facing before battle.

They also have SUPERCOMPUTER SAGE if you want to be accurate. Blam blam, all up in y'face. She did a killing blow because they fully expect him to recover from even a killing blow. She -- and our other team members -- do nothing of the sort to other members of your squad.

Ok, but can you tell me where she is generating so much power for this shot? What sound?

[Joe Acro]

Thank you mattbib...also, wouldn't it be possible for hybrid to see this and dodge it?
Probably not. That thing moves at the speed of light and we have him set to focus on Martinique. He won't be looking for the laser and, if he notices it, won't have time to move out of the way.

[Novaya Havoc]

We hadn't actually specifically planned for an initial strike by Dazzler (something I had realized last night after submitting the strategy). Eh.

What sound is allowing Dazzler to form the initial laser? Can she fire it (and it get there) before Hybrid takes down Martinique?

Dazzler can store sound before battle. She doesn't go in powerless. The sound plot device hasn't been used for her since Uncanny #217-224ish -- check any later appearances or NEX.

Even if Hybrid dispels Martinique, Voght can pull off her teleportation move. As we noted, Martinique's initial mirage shakes off as soon as they teleport (she can't use her powers while in transit with Voght). We tried to be as sensible about our characters' power limitations as we could.

Yes. Sabra still has quills and Samurai can still teleport. But Dazzler trapped Sabra, and Cargill is much stronger than Samurai.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Pointing and accuracy of aim are extremely different animals. I can point too, but hitting a target the size of a human head from 100 yards, is hard enough with a rested rifle with an accurately sited scope. The chance of Ali connecting on her first shot, at that distance, just by pointing is highly unlikely.

Its hard for a gun because bullets dont fly straight. They fall to the ground. All she will have to do is point at a head. Thats it. No recoil, no wind variables. A true point and click experience.

Pachoo Pachoo.

[Joe Acro]

Dazzler can store sound before battle. She doesn't go in powerless. The sound plot device hasn't been used for her since Uncanny #217-224ish -- check any later appearances or NEX.

Even if Hybrid dispels Martinique, Voght can pull off her teleportation move. As we noted, Martinique's initial mirage shakes off as soon as they teleport (she can't use her powers while in transit with Voght). We tried to be as sensible about our characters' power limitations as we could.

Yes. Sabra still has quills and Samurai can still teleport. But Dazzler trapped Sabra, and Cargill is much stronger than Samurai.
So, the battle sort of plays out as Martinique goes down, Hybrid goes down, and then both teams teleport?

[xakko]

That's the move I question- I know Dazz is a good shot and all, but a head shot from 100 yards away? That's bordering on sniper rifle distance. Is she THAT accurate?

-D
Dazz can easily make the shot, but would still need to raise her arms and aim.

She was able to hit Rogue in that Uncanny issue from much further than that.

I think Hybrid takes out Lady Mastermind, and then gets zapped by Dazz.

[Joe Acro]

With Lady Martinique down, wouldn't that make it much more difficult for Sage and Voght to defeat Forge and Cable?

(I haven't resolved the teleporting problem. This is just a simple exercise in "What if the battle does go that way?")

[Novaya Havoc]

With Lady Martinique down, wouldn't that make it much more difficult for Sage and Voght to defeat Forge and Cable?

(I haven't resolved the teleporting problem. This is just a simple exercise in "What if the battle does go that way?")

Sage would know precisely where to strike Cable or Forge to take them out, or shorten their technological components.

Voght can transubstantiate on sight and goes to the Astral Plane. Even if Elixir was KOed, your team would be severely handicapped by the loss of weapons.

[Joe Acro]

Sage would know precisely where to strike Cable or Forge to take them out, or shorten their technological components.

Voght can transubstantiate on sight and goes to the Astral Plane. Even if Elixir was KOed, your team would be severely handicapped by the loss of weapons.
I don't think so. Sabra's still quite active and probably enough to defeat her two opponents, Dazzler and Prism. Cable has powers without the guns. Samurai can teleport. And Shatterstar has enhanced reflexes.

I can see Shatterstar holding off Frenzy just with agility and speed. Presumably, even without his sword, Samurai can still take down Elixir (assuming Elixir can do as you say), meaning Hybrid can come back. I'm not sure Cable would allow the bullets to hit him.

Minor question, if Sage and Voght are holding the guns, who has the swords?

[Novaya Havoc]

Minor question, if Sage and Voght are holding the guns, who has the swords?

Left behind on the astral plane.

[Gene M.]

The strats in this match were pretty evenly matched. I had to go with FAB-U-LOUS (...and Sage), though. I thought they had the better use of teamwork.

[Joe Acro]

Based on our strategies, though, the two teams are probably teleporting at the same time. How do we resolve that problem?

[Novaya Havoc]

Based on our strategies, though, the two teams are probably teleporting at the same time. How do we resolve that problem?

Voght can teleport multiple people. For you, only Samurai can teleport. Forge has mystical abilities, but for him to do quick, large-scale teleporting is stretching his abilities, IMO -- and it would be slower than Voght.

[Brian M.]

Based on our strategies, though, the two teams are probably teleporting at the same time. How do we resolve that problem?

Naked wrestling.

[Brian M.]

I don't understand why you use Forge to teleport when Cable can bodyslide multiple people...

[Arrjay]

Naked wrestling.

Heh heh.

I second this notion and suggest a fighting satdium entirely composed of jello.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I don't understand why you use Forge to teleport when Cable can bodyslide multiple people...

I think he could only do that when he had whatever his asteroid m/avalon thing was called

[Sophisticated_Gamer]

I don't understand why you use Forge to teleport when Cable can bodyslide multiple people...

No, because after he body slides, he has no power for 5 minutes which means he is really easy to take down...

[Brian M.]

No, because after he body slides, he has no power for 5 minutes which means he is really easy to take down...

Cable is still a solider, he's had countless battles, but whatever.

[Brian M.]

I think he could only do that when he had whatever his asteroid m/avalon thing was called

That's now Providence, still works.

[Mariah]

That's now Providence, still works.
Wait, Providence is Professor/Ship?

[Brian M.]

Wait, Providence is Professor/Ship?

Not ship, Providence is bits and peices of Gray...something or another, can't spell it. I believe that's correct.

[Joe Acro]

Voght can teleport multiple people. For you, only Samurai can teleport. Forge has mystical abilities, but for him to do quick, large-scale teleporting is stretching his abilities, IMO -- and it would be slower than Voght.I can see that. But, does this mean that Samurai, acting at the same time as Hybrid, gets to take down Elixir before transport?

I don't understand why you use Forge to teleport when Cable can bodyslide multiple people...I'm not sure it'd be any quicker.

The ship he would use is called Graymalkin.

[Mariah]

Not ship, Providence is bits and peices of Gray...something or another, can't spell it. I believe that's correct.
Graymalkin? Omg, I can't believe I remembered that. But Graymalkin had pieces of Ship on it. Mixed with some future tech.
<-----uber dork.

[Brian M.]

Graymalkin? Omg, I can't believe I remembered that. But Graymalkin had pieces of Ship on it. Mixed with some future tech.
<-----uber dork.

You are worse than DDM, your Mrs. DDM!!!

[Novaya Havoc]

I can see that. But, does this mean that Samurai, acting at the same time as Hybrid, gets to take down Elixir before transport?


Martinique uses her woogie right after Dazzler takes down Hybrid. Samurai taking out Elixir only works provided Samurai is unaffected by this, which I don't see why he wouldn't be.

He would see the team charging toward your own while Voght teleports my team away.

[Mariah]

You are worse than DDM, your Mrs. DDM!!!
That's LDD. Lala the Diva Dynamo.

[Joe Acro]

Martinique uses her woogie right after Dazzler takes down Hybrid. Samurai taking out Elixir only works provided Samurai is unaffected by this, which I don't see why he wouldn't be.

He would see the team charging toward your own while Voght teleports my team away.
Didn't we already establish that Martinique would be taken down before Dazzler takes down Hybrid?

[The Fury]

S_G and Joe, have something i never noticed before. Leech with a load of characters that on teh battle field do not need to rely on their powers, if Leech activates his pwers, the team can still opperate confortably.

This is used well in this match.

NH&N, do well also with some great moves.

[Novaya Havoc]

Didn't we already establish that Martinique would be taken down before Dazzler takes down Hybrid?

See, what I don't like about yuor strategy is the whole "THIS MOVE THIS MOVE THIS MOVE .02 seconds!!!!"

Nyssane and I tried to consciously stray from that. Dazzler fires off one laser, and the team teleports away to bring in an ambush. It doesn't rest on who-can-do-what-in-the-first-10-seconds-of-battle.

To play with your point, you assume that Hybrid could successfully KO Martinique at the speed of thought before Dazzler could nail him at the speed of light.

Our strategy could have denigrated into "Dazzler dazzle-blasts the entire team, rending them epileptic," but we didn't want to work with one-shot pre-emptive wonders as the backbone of the strategy.

-NH

[Joe Acro]

I suppose it could be argued that Hybrid doesn't successfully take down Maritinique before the laser hits him. He has to strike and complete the task before Dazzler charges and fires.

However, wouldn't Hybrid's attack alone be enough to stop Martinique from doing that illusion as early as you would want? Samurai's attacking at the same time. So, unless Martinique can cause illusions while being psychically assaulted, I don't see how she affects Samurai.

[Brian M.]

IS Hybrid's Telepathy strong enough to quickly, very quickly TK Lady Martinique?

[Joe Acro]

IS Hybrid's Telepathy strong enough to quickly, very quickly TK Lady Martinique?What does the one have to do with the other?

[Brian M.]

What does the one have to do with the other?

Sorry lost my train of thought, trying to take notes and decide on this match... How good is Hybrid with his TP?

[Joe Acro]

Sorry lost my train of thought, trying to take notes and decide on this match... How good is Hybrid with his TP?
I don't know for certain since I don't own the issues he appeared in. I do know he can quickly analyze people's powers with his mind. I know he can rip a snowmobile into its individual pieces as it flies towards him (it's TK, but it still shows mental speed).

The only way to truly tell you would be to redo my research and come up with an answer. Unless you'd want to yourself.

[Affinity]

I've never heard of Hybrid before; who is this "uber-1337" guy? I don't like him.

[Mineralogy]

Graymalkin? Omg, I can't believe I remembered that. But Graymalkin had pieces of Ship on it. Mixed with some future tech.
<-----uber dork.But SHIELD tried to take over Graymalkin, so Sam and Bobby jettisoned most of Cable's stuff into the ocean and then self-destructed it. Then Magneto found the remains of Graymalkin and turned it into the Acolyte's home base. But apparently Professor/Ship was still functioning inside it, so when Cable and X-Force stormed Avalon (reshaped Graymalkin debris) during Fatal Attractions, one of the things Cable managed to do before Magneto tore his TO components apart was download Professor/Ship directly into himself. Then Professor/Ship was part of Cable's mind for a year, but then the Phalanx Covenant happened and a Phalanx agent tried to infiltrate X-Force's Camp Verde base while they were all off-site and preoccupied with Phalanx Convenant: Lifesigns and Cable was busy over in Phalanx Convenant: whatever book 3 was called. But this Phalanx agent pressed a wrong button or something and got electrocuted, and somehow this resulted in its body being taken over by Professor/Ship. And when X-Force returned they were totally stoked to see Professor/Ship able to walk around and talk to them, but then Cable's TO components started to shut down and malfunction and kill him, and it was realized that Professor/Ship's new Phalanx-donated body was emitting crazy waves that were killing Cable's TO. So X-Force decided to donate their Camp Verde base to Professor/Ship, who turned the ENTIRE SITE into a gigantic starship-body for himself and sailed off into the universe to explore. And then X-Force got a new base, but then Age of Apocalypse happened and then un-happened, and Holocaust was out floating in space. So the Acolytes took him on-board Avalon but UH-OH! and soon Avalon was exploding and crashing to Earth. So now all of what was once Graymalkin was out-of-orbit. And then the rest of the 90s happened and then eventually it was 2003 and Cable/Deadpool started and Cable, as part of his escalating messiah-complex super-plan, flew around the world dredging up all the bits and pieces of Ship/Graymalkin/Avalon from where they had been crashed numerous different times and he wove them all together into Providence! And now you know, the rest of the story.

...good lord I'm a nerd.

[Joe Acro]

I've never heard of Hybrid before; who is this "uber-1337" guy? I don't like him.
He's a Dire Wraith/human child that happens to be a mutant. He's a Rom villain, normally seen with crossover X-characters, such as in his first appearance when the X-Men showed up after he manifested his powers.

[Sophisticated_Gamer]

See, what I don't like about yuor strategy is the whole "THIS MOVE THIS MOVE THIS MOVE .02 seconds!!!!"

Nyssane and I tried to consciously stray from that. Dazzler fires off one laser, and the team teleports away to bring in an ambush. It doesn't rest on who-can-do-what-in-the-first-10-seconds-of-battle.

To play with your point, you assume that Hybrid could successfully KO Martinique at the speed of thought before Dazzler could nail him at the speed of light.

Our strategy could have denigrated into "Dazzler dazzle-blasts the entire team, rending them epileptic," but we didn't want to work with one-shot pre-emptive wonders as the backbone of the strategy.

-NH

But, wouldn't martiniques have trobles doing his move, since leech will be teleporting there very soon, which causes him to loose all of his powers, and all of his illusions and tk goes away?

[The Lucky One]

But SHIELD tried to take over Graymalkin, so Sam and Bobby jettisoned most of Cable's stuff into the ocean and then self-destructed it. Then Magneto found the remains of Graymalkin and turned it into the Acolyte's home base. But apparently Professor/Ship was still functioning inside it, so when Cable and X-Force stormed Avalon (reshaped Graymalkin debris) during Fatal Attractions, one of the things Cable managed to do before Magneto tore his TO components apart was download Professor/Ship directly into himself. Then Professor/Ship was part of Cable's mind for a year, but then the Phalanx Covenant happened and a Phalanx agent tried to infiltrate X-Force's Camp Verde base while they were all off-site and preoccupied with Phalanx Convenant: Lifesigns and Cable was busy over in Phalanx Convenant: whatever book 3 was called. But this Phalanx agent pressed a wrong button or something and got electrocuted, and somehow this resulted in its body being taken over by Professor/Ship. And when X-Force returned they were totally stoked to see Professor/Ship able to walk around and talk to them, but then Cable's TO components started to shut down and malfunction and kill him, and it was realized that Professor/Ship's new Phalanx-donated body was emitting crazy waves that were killing Cable's TO. So X-Force decided to donate their Camp Verde base to Professor/Ship, who turned the ENTIRE SITE into a gigantic starship-body for himself and sailed off into the universe to explore. And then X-Force got a new base, but then Age of Apocalypse happened and then un-happened, and Holocaust was out floating in space. So the Acolytes took him on-board Avalon but UH-OH! and soon Avalon was exploding and crashing to Earth. So now all of what was once Graymalkin was out-of-orbit. And then the rest of the 90s happened and then eventually it was 2003 and Cable/Deadpool started and Cable, as part of his escalating messiah-complex super-plan, flew around the world dredging up all the bits and pieces of Ship/Graymalkin/Avalon from where they had been crashed numerous different times and he wove them all together into Providence! And now you know, the rest of the story.

Wasn't Prosh at the center of that X-Men Forever mini too? Whatever happened to him?

Oh, and uh, match commentary... right. Er... hold on a sec, lemme reread.

Okay. I'm still slightly skeptical of Dazz making a perfect headshot from a football field away just on line of sight, but if she's apparently done it in the comics, I guess that's all there is to it. I'm also a little skeptical of Voght teleporting everyone's weapons away like that, but I can't say I'm familiar enough with her exploits to think it's impossible. But overall, Ben and Nysanne just had a slightly more creative strategy that accounted for more details. I definitely think Joe and S_G had some good moves, the anti-powers thing is still bloody brilliant and I hope they keep making good use of it... but their strategy wasn't quite as comprehensive. Sorry, but get 'em next time, guys!

-D

[Joe Acro]

S_G, since you haven't, I'm going to vote... please don't vote...
I'm betting he doesn't see this.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Here is how the fight goes down in my mind and using the strategies provided.

Phase 1

Hybrid will immediately take out Mastermind but then will get his brains scattered by Dazzler, pachoo pachoo. Silver Samurai and Sabra move up the field unopposed and Voght teleports the rest of her team and Forge, Cable and Shatterstars weapons. I believe since he teleported Silver Samurai retains his sword. As forge would be much slower in his teleportation he isnt able to pull it off in time before the Fab-u-lous is all over him. And with his guns disappearing i think he would have an immediate although regrettable hesitation. Dazzler dazzle blast poor Leech before he knows what is going on, he becomes a non factor.

as i see the first bit

Fab- Dazzler, Cargrill, Sage, Voght, Prism, Elixer

X-ploiters - Cable(weaponless, but the shoulderpads remain), Sabra, Forge, Shatterstar, Silver Samurai

Phase 2

Since Voght will probably continue to engage the main threat Cable, Silver Samurai will retain his weapon and teleport in taking Elixer down before he can do any damage. Cargill will destroy Shatterstar with little problems without his goofy swords. Sage will not have much trouble simply shooting Forge so he's down. Sabra runs up and knocks the stationary Voght out of the fight, who is distracted by Cable. However without Elixer boost i still think Dazzler can erect the "laser shield", whatever that is and effectively immobilize Sabra further.

Fab- Dazzler, Cargill, Sage, Prism

X-ploit- Cable, Silver Samurai, Hybrid (without Elixer to stop his regen he's slowly finding himself again)

Phase 3

Prism goes in and kaboom, Sabra is out. And i assume Prism as well. Cable is still busy with Sage, whom really only can keep him busy. She wont win that fight. Silver Samurai is now fighting Cargill. With his sword in play vs her skin he will take out Cargill i believe. Dazzlers no fool and will take cable out of the fight as quickly as possible so as to spare Sage. But i think Cable will be able to knock her out first

Fab- Dazzler

X-ploit- Silver Samurai

Although i think on paper on might think a Samurai with a sword able to cut through anything and teleporting would be able to beat dazzler, i dont think thats the case. She can blind him so as his teleporting is useless. And considering how shiny that fuckin' armor is, she doesnt even have to hit his face to, well, hit him in the face. Boucny bouncy, he's out.

Dazzler wins after she shoots Hybrid some more.

[Joe Acro]

When you say "Silver Samurai and Sabra move up the field unopposed" do you mean that they get to perform the moves they would be moving forward for?

I don't see why Cargill can take out Shatterstar almost immediately. What is "Prism goes in and kaboom"? Does he blow up?

And wouldn't the shiny armor be more of a factor against Dazzler than Samurai? Trying to blind him would mean blinding herself.

[Novaya Havoc]

When you say "Silver Samurai and Sabra move up the field unopposed" do you mean that they get to perform the moves they would be moving forward for?

I don't see why Cargill can take out Shatterstar almost immediately. What is "Prism goes in and kaboom"? Does he blow up?

And wouldn't the shiny armor be more of a factor against Dazzler than Samurai? Trying to blind him would mean blinding herself.

Dazzler is unaffected by any intensity of light or sound. She can even stare at the sun.

Prism can absorb energy and detonate -- it doesn't cause himself harm, either.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Dazzler is unaffected by any intensity of light or sound. She can even stare at the sun.

Also, lets assume she couldnt. As she isnt going to be surprised by the light show, and is going to be doing it, she could simply close her eyes

[Nyssane]

I don't see why Cargill can take out Shatterstar almost immediately. What is "Prism goes in and kaboom"? Does he blow up?

Frenzy doesn't need weapons whereas that's all Shatterstar relies on. She could easily dispatch of him, even if he is quite agile and quick. She might not be AS quick, but she's pretty fast and much stronger, so he wouldn't cause any problem for her.

And yeah, Prism doesn't get killed from "detonating." Only if he has too much power (ie. Inferno) shot at him does he get killed. But if he catches Dazzler's light inside of his crystallin body, he could easily enhance it tenfold and shoot it back at whomever he pleases.

[Joe Acro]

Frenzy doesn't need weapons whereas that's all Shatterstar relies on. She could easily dispatch of him, even if he is quite agile and quick. She might not be AS quick, but she's pretty fast and much stronger, so he wouldn't cause any problem for her.

Shatterstar is a master of Mojoworld martial arts. He has enhanced speed, agility, strength, and reflexes. He also has a not-so-wonderful healing factor.

I'm not saying he could beat Frenzy, but I think he could hold her off long enough.

[Maka Nani]

I don't think Voght has teleported anything that wasn't close by her before, I don't think she can teleport the other teams weapons away like that. Has she done anything like this in a comic?

[Joe Acro]

I don't think Voght has teleported anything that wasn't close by her before, I don't think she can teleport the other teams weapons away like that. Has she done anything like this in a comic?
From Wiki:
...she is capable of transforming herself or any person or object in her line-of-sight into this state.

[Novaya Havoc]

I don't think Voght has teleported anything that wasn't close by her before, I don't think she can teleport the other teams weapons away like that. Has she done anything like this in a comic?

I don't have the specific reference (I only have my Dazzler comics with me), but I know she can transubstantiate other things with thought; easier if she can see them. But she has been able to teleport people and objects to places she cannot see; I'm sure it accounts for some sort of low-level psionic skill (as she can move into the Astral Plane). It's not like she turns people/objects into a mist that floats around -- it moves into the astral plane at will. If she were just a mist, Cable could have easily spotted it with his bionic eye. This move was risky, but she can do it.

Teleporting weapons from so far away may be stretching it a tad, but the other team isn't possessing the most discreet of weapons; they are fairly big.

[Mariah]

She teleported Fabian Cortez out of a hospital after he got slashed by Wolvie's claws.

[mattbib]

Congratulations, Novaya Havoc & Nyssane ! You'll continue in the top bracket, playing Siddon & venuscameback in next Thursday's AM match, while Sophisticated_Gamer & Joe Acro drop to the lower bracket and will play The Lucky One in next Thursday's PM match.

[Novaya Havoc]

Well, that wraps up this heated battle!

First of all, thank you to everyone who voted for us, and wanted FAB-U-LOUS (... and Sage) to fight. For their right. To Paaaar-TAY! Elixir is making some mega-Margaritas right now in celebration. Honest. Gold skin, man-bikini and all. Dazzler will cover the greatest Kylie hits. Don't miss it!

Kudos to SG and Joe Acro for their strategy and being great sports. Best of luck in your next match, guys! Rock it out!

Thanks again, y'all!

[Nyssane]

Yeah, S-G & Joe Acro, you guys did a great job. <3 <3 That Hybrid bastard... you guys were wise in picking him. :p

[Joe Acro]

I could've done with out this:
See, what I don't like about yuor strategy is the whole "THIS MOVE THIS MOVE THIS MOVE .02 seconds!!!!"

Nyssane and I tried to consciously stray from that. Dazzler fires off one laser, and the team teleports away to bring in an ambush. It doesn't rest on who-can-do-what-in-the-first-10-seconds-of-battle.

In any case, though, you two did well, making a more well-planned strategy and utilizing your team as a team better than us. I honestly commend you for your efforts. Thanks for the truly interesting battle.

Now, to make sure I do better next time...