View Full Version : Mutant League 01/22/2007 PM Game 2: darker_phoenix & Hi-Fi vs. element13
mattbib
01-22-2007, 12:11 PM
Welcome to our second match of the day...
In the first corner we have darker_phoenix & Hi-Fi's Amazons dot com (M, Aurora, Madame Web, Bruiser, Skids, Squirrel Girl, Murmur III)
vs
In the other corner is element13's Champions (Sub-Mariner, Polaris, Tempo, Scanner, Arclight, Fever Pitch, Madison Jeffries)
Both participants have submitted strategies:
mattbib
01-22-2007, 12:16 PM
As soon as the BATTAL begins Madame Web utilises her sexy telepathy in conjunction with M and brain-spazzes Tempo. Tempo falls to the ground. Clang.
Skids wraps her friction-free field around Murmur and Aurora, who pulls them across the ground like ice skating towards the other team.
M and Squirrel Girl taunt Namor. M says Susan richards is a ho. Squirrel Girl
throws nuts from her nutsack. Namor gets pissed! His imperius rage makes him sloppy and easy for the bushy tailed mistress of the trees and M to dodge.
Meanwhile, Polaris is making an attempt to take out skids et al, but aurora's superspeed is making that group a hard target. She manoueveres it so Murmur lets go of skids and grabs Polaris' arm.
Madame Web is being cute to Molly. Because she is ickle. ONOES! Madison and Arclight are approaching. Madame Web lifts Molly into her floaty chair thing to avoid Arclight's shockwaves.
Murmur orders Polaris to attack her own team. Scanner goes down. Arclight gets crushed in her shiny armour. Murmur tells Polaris to take a nap. She's out. Murmur strikes a sexy french pose.
Aurora decks Madison. She then joins Squirrel Girl and M against Namor, blitzing him from various angles with punches and light blasts.
Fever Pitch fries Madame Web extra crispy. Molly gets upset and angry and jumps on him. Punching him alot.
Skids skates over to Scanner. And they have a hair puling contest. Because they are both blonde. Skids wins.
Everyone piles on Namor until he passes out from the sheer level of oestrogen on the field.
WINS!
mattbib
01-22-2007, 12:21 PM
Battle:
polaris surrounds the team in a force-field. and Tempo creates a time flux so that any oncoming attack or object stops immediantley
polaris lifts the opposing team up into the sky like in this scan, and Tempo stops time around your team, so you are unable to react and M and Aurora can't even try a speedblitz
Image Reference (http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/1/21/f_xm160ai_5aa1m_76e5c69.jpg)
so while your team is indisposed, and very unstable, Arclight sends out shockwaves to mess with your team, and fever pitch creates a huge vortex of fire around your team, causing damage. Another advantage of this fire vortex would be that the fire will suck out all the oxygen around your team causing them to suffocate. While this is happenning, Madisson Jefferies takes control over Madame Web's chair sense it is technical. He creates a mini box-bot out of it and attacks your team with it. Now even if anyone on your team is still standing they will be very, very weak leaving them unable to defeat namor who can easily take them out, considering he has taken out the hulk multiple times, and can absorb energy. ^^ I have scans for all this if anyone has questions, like namor absorbing energy, and he has absorbed a hydrogen bomb that exploded while he was holding it.
Brian M.
01-22-2007, 12:25 PM
I have a question:
element13: Since Polaris's recent powerloss...repowering by Apoc. has she been shown to still have these abilities?
The Fury
01-22-2007, 12:25 PM
My god that's bad art in that image.
mattbib
01-22-2007, 12:35 PM
I have a question:
element13: Since Polaris's recent powerloss...repowering by Apoc. has she been shown to still have these abilities?
My pre-draft ruling was that, since her abilities haven't been fully explored since Apocalypse's restoration, for League purposes she would possess her standard pre-loss powers.
Brian "Vash" Ashby
01-22-2007, 12:47 PM
My god that's bad art in that image.
I dont know why, but as soon as Miki touches Salvador laroccas work it turns to crap
Also, the team with Squirrel Girl triumphs. She always wins because she is so plucky.
Novaya Havoc
01-22-2007, 12:51 PM
LOLOLOL at this battle.
Joe Acro
01-22-2007, 12:55 PM
I could try to analyze this fight like the last one, but I'd like to keep my sanity.
Brian M.
01-22-2007, 01:01 PM
My pre-draft ruling was that, since her abilities haven't been fully explored since Apocalypse's restoration, for League purposes she would possess her standard pre-loss powers.
Sounds good to me.
Well then becuase of the way Polaris lifts the other team off the ground and disrupts what's going on I'm gonna give it to element13.
Novaya Havoc
01-22-2007, 01:06 PM
Sounds good to me.
Well then becuase of the way Polaris lifts the other team off the ground and disrupts what's going on I'm gonna give it to element13.
I thought the whole point was to exercise teamwork.
It's not like me and Nyzz's strategy is going to be "ELIXIR HEALS DAZZLER AND SHE MAKES SUPER DAZZLE BLAST THAT RENDERS EVERYONE UNCONSCIOUS! SEE DAZZLER SERIES FOR REFERENCE!"
It was the fact DP and Hi-Fi utilized their entire team that I give it up to them.
Brian M.
01-22-2007, 01:09 PM
I thought the whole point was to exercise teamwork.
It's not like me and Nyzz's strategy is going to be "ELIXIR HEALS DAZZLER AND SHE MAKES SUPER DAZZLE BLAST THAT RENDERS EVERYONE UNCONSCIOUS! SEE DAZZLER SERIES FOR REFERENCE!"
It was the fact DP and Hi-Fi utilized their entire team that I give it up to them.
element13 does use teamwork, comboing polaris and tempo, arclight, fever pitch and madison all do their attacks in unison and Sub-Mariner cleans up. He uses this characters well I think. I liked his use of Tempo throwing up a 'time shield'.
Joe Zool
01-22-2007, 01:28 PM
I liked both strategies, for me personally, it's a draw. It's hard to decide who has the best advantage over who.
Joe Zool
01-22-2007, 01:31 PM
One question, though...
Polaris is making an attempt to take out skids et al,
Makes an attempt, how? Force fields? Magnetism? More details, please. :)
The Lucky One
01-22-2007, 02:14 PM
Tempo can't stop time; she creates a tachyon field that can make it seem to pass slower or faster within the field, but it has limits. Back when Quicksilver's top speed was only about 200 MPH, she used it on him and he was still fast enough to get through it and clock her. So I have to believe that Aurora could do the same, and I definitely think it's overextending her abilities to have her slowing down the entire other team to the point of being almost immobile.
-D
The Fury
01-22-2007, 04:14 PM
While both strategies were short, they got to the point, one with it comedic side, and one with is picture evidence. Both good in those mannors.
Zombienorthstar
01-22-2007, 04:17 PM
Grrr double post.
Zombienorthstar
01-22-2007, 04:18 PM
Both the strategys have their flaws...but in my opinion D_P and Hi-Fi make too many assumptions about what the other team are doing...rather than just postulating what they might do. And Polaris isn't take out early enough for Element's strategy to not work.
While i agree it's good to use your whole team, this is about pheasibility. Just because D_P and Hi-Fi use their entire team doesn't mean they'd win.
Mitsaso
01-22-2007, 04:25 PM
Wow, I'm impressed by how short and to the point these strategies are...:D
I think Mikl and Victor's chaotic strategy works best. I don't think Tempo's powers would work that way and Polaris is yet too unstable to do the massive stuff element_13 wants her to do (the reference pic was from back when she still had her mutant powers, now she's still powerful but still unsure of her powers).
Brian M.
01-22-2007, 04:28 PM
Polaris has her pre Apoc powers in this tourney.
Zombienorthstar
01-22-2007, 04:29 PM
Wow, I'm impressed by how short and to the point these strategies are...:D
I think Mikl and Victor's chaotic strategy works best. I don't think Tempo's powers would work that way and Polaris is yet too unstable to do the massive stuff element_13 wants her to do (the reference pic was from back when she still had her mutant powers, now she's still powerful but still unsure of her powers).
Yeah Mits that was decided beforehand. Polaris is magnetic....not apocalyptic.
venuscameback
01-22-2007, 05:02 PM
Tempo risks a massive heart attack if she uses her powers too much & I think this is way too much, freezing an entire team so that they can't even respond to attacks is a massive amount of pressure for her body to take. Holding back a speedster like Aurora has to be an insane amount of pressure
Tempo tries, Tempo has a coronary and dies, and element 13's strategy fades with her.
Darker_Phoenix & Hi-Fi, I loved your humour, very nicely written.
element13
01-22-2007, 05:02 PM
1) Polaris is pre-M:day
2) tempo has fully stopped time before
3) I was under the assumption that it was about which team would win, not which team had better team work
element13
01-22-2007, 05:04 PM
Tempo risks a massive heart attack if she uses her powers too much & I think this is way too much, freezing an entire team so that they can't even respond to attacks is a massive amount of pressure for her body to take. Holding back a speedster like Aurora has to be an insane amount of pressure
Tempo tries, Tempo has a coronary and dies, and element 13's strategy fades with her.
Darker_Phoenix & Hi-Fi, I loved your humour, very nicely written.
aurora can't fly anyway due tyo the fact that polaris is holding her anyway like in the scan. she will be too unstable to fly, and how will she even know to take out tempo? Aurora has never met her, so she doesn't know it's her controlling time
venuscameback
01-22-2007, 05:07 PM
aurora can't fly anyway due tyo the fact that polaris is holding her anyway like in the scan. she will be too unstable to fly, and how will she even know to take out tempo? Aurora has never met her, so she doesn't know it's her controlling time
Characters know who they're facing before they arrive on the battlefield (hence they've got a battle plan)
and holding a bunch of soldiers & athletic guys in place is a lot easier, I'm sure, than holding a speedster still. Have you ever tried catching a fish with your bare hands? They tend to slip right between your fingers. I think Polaris would have the same problem, but worse
element13
01-22-2007, 05:17 PM
Characters know who they're facing before they arrive on the battlefield (hence they've got a battle plan)
Yes, but aurora doesn't know that Tempo is the one messing with the time frame.
ALso, about Phoenix's and Hi Fi's stragety
1) Madame Web will be useless because Madison Jefferies takes control of her chair and crerates multiple box creations to help my team fight, and considering that one box can take out orca easily, your team is in trouble
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v..._07_rougher.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v..._08_rougher.jpg
2) Scanner can phase through skids field and take everyone out from the inside. sense scanner is invisible, intangible, and travels at the speed of light as well as being able to disrupt people, taking the three in the field out is no problem
3) You can't take out anyone from my team with TP because madison took small parts of his suit to create head sets for everyone, and even cable's TP can't get through to Jefferies with his suits protection
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d..._19_rougher.jpg
4) Box even has a sonic blast so everyone on your team will be even more dissorientated
so TP won't affect me, and scanner can just phase through skids field to take her and aurora out
element13
01-22-2007, 05:17 PM
Characters know who they're facing before they arrive on the battlefield (hence they've got a battle plan)
and holding a bunch of soldiers & athletic guys in place is a lot easier, I'm sure, than holding a speedster still. Have you ever tried catching a fish with your bare hands? They tend to slip right between your fingers. I think Polaris would have the same problem, but worse
then she just encases Aurora in a force-field
caney
01-22-2007, 06:02 PM
I'm stuck on this one and don't know who to vote for. I can see the combination of Madame Web and M brain-frying Tempo before she gets a chance to do her thing, but then I also can see Polaris' uber lift everyone into the air so they're helpless attack still working. I guess at that point most everyone on Amazons dot com except for M is fairly useless until they can break free of Polaris' attack. So I'm gonna go with the Champions winning this one.
If there's an award for must fun and entertaining strategy, d_p and Hi-Fi would be a strong frontrunner though. :D
element13
01-22-2007, 06:11 PM
I'm stuck on this one and don't know who to vote for. I can see the combination of Madame Web and M brain-frying Tempo before she gets a chance to do her thing, but then I also can see Polaris' uber lift everyone into the air so they're helpless attack still working. I guess at that point most everyone on Amazons dot com except for M is fairly useless until they can break free of Polaris' attack. So I'm gonna go with the Champions winning this one.
If there's an award for must fun and entertaining strategy, d_p and Hi-Fi would be a strong frontrunner though. :D
did you see the scan where box is basically immune to TP when he has his protection? he hands it out to all his team, including Tempo, making her able to handle the TP attack.
Also, i was wondering if everyone who voted against me please explain...please and thankyou:)
Also, Jefferies could possibly take the whole team, being very, very resistant, to TP and having enough strength to knock down an alternate reality starving glacactus, combined with the scanned ability, you have no way to take him down.
1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e...l02-1987-08.jpg
2. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e...l02-1987-12.jpg
3. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e...l02-1987-15.jpg
4. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e...l02-1987-16.jpg
5. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e...l02-1987-17.jpg
6. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e...l02-1987-18.jpg
Not to mention that Box can also shrink down to a few inches, so he will go unnoticed by your team, and he can travel at the speed of light also
1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Flight53-02.jpg
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g...Flight57-01.jpg
2. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g...Flight56-21.jpg
3. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g...Flight56-22.jpg
and on to Namor, you really have no one to take on namor also.
he's defeated DR. Strange
Here...
Here.
he's lifted a fully loaded tanker
Here
Absorbs millions of volts of electricity and discharges it against Hulk.
Here
and these are just a few examples of the power on my team
caney
01-22-2007, 06:19 PM
did you see the scan where box is basically immune to TP when he has his protection? he hands it out to all his team, including Tempo, making her able to handle the TP attack.
Also, i was wondering if everyone who voted against me please explain...please and thankyou:)
But you didn't say that in your original strategy (maybe I'm not reading it correclty)? :confused:
It would also takes some time for him to do this and I think M and Madame Web could take her out before that happens. But I voted for you team anyways based on the rest of your plan...:)
element13
01-22-2007, 06:30 PM
But you didn't say that in your original strategy (maybe I'm not reading it correclty)? :confused:
It would also takes some time for him to do this and I think M and Madame Web could take her out before that happens. But I voted for you team anyways based on the rest of your plan...:)
iot would really only take a second, but combined with the fact that polaris
s force-field is made of electro-magnetic energy which scrambles oncoming TP, my team is very likely safe. ALso, Namor has defeated Super-Skrull who is basically just as powerful as your entire team
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7346/namorfeat475ib.gif
and if Namor can defeat abomination, he can easily take care of M
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/...orfeat686lx.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/...orfeat691ix.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/...orfeat702bo.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/...t71kopio2wz.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/...orfeat724zw.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/...orfeat737jo.gif
Also, the fact that Namor was thrown from space and still got up and flew away shows that anything your team has won't take him out
http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat889cy.gif
xakko
01-22-2007, 06:44 PM
iot would really only take a second, but combined with the fact that polaris
s force-field is made of electro-magnetic energy which scrambles oncoming TP, my team is very likely safe. ALso, Namor has defeated Super-Skrull who is basically just as powerful as your entire team
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7346/namorfeat475ib.gif
and if Namor can defeat abomination, he can easily take care of M
But they have Squirrel Girl taking care of Namor, don't they?
And Namor is chump change compared to Thanos.
element13
01-22-2007, 06:48 PM
But they have Squirrel Girl taking care of Namor, don't they?
And Namor is chump change compared to Thanos.
yes, so you know that she won't beat him. I sinply used M< as an example because she's their most powerful character. also, everyone who voted against me, i asked for a simple explanation as to why, and no one can answer me and the votres keep coming. I mean one person joined less than 10 days ago and still voted. i am just asking for a simple explanation in case their is any confusion or soemthing
element13
01-22-2007, 07:17 PM
sorry for the double post, but it looks like i'm going to lsose this match, so i'd just like to thank everyone for voting for me and supporting me, all fur of you. Apparentlly i missunderstood this whole tourney deal. I was under the impression that the voting was based on who had the better team and had the most supporting arguements for their team, as in scans and reasons as to why their team would win...not whose stragety was more comedic. Phoenix and Hi-Fi haven't posted once except for their innitial stragety which was more comedic than anything...i mean Squirrel Girl taking Namor!? but it was fun and if i am right about when the fight ends, then i am going to lose because i am so far behind. I am not quitting, i just thought i'd say congrats to my opposing team
Brian M.
01-22-2007, 07:23 PM
It's a good strategy, I think your use of Tempo was a little off but then if you look at our match we are having the same arguement over temporal characters.
d_p and Hi-Fi had a cute strategy, fun, I mean Scanner/Skids hair pulling, funny, but this isn't about who has the cutest or funniest strategy. I can't see Squirrel Girl taking Namor...not in the slightest.
You still have atleast one more match element13, it's a double eilimination. Good luck next round, congrats to d_p and Hi-Fi.
element13
01-22-2007, 07:32 PM
It's a good strategy, I think your use of Tempo was a little off but then if you look at our match we are having the same arguement over temporal characters.
yeah but it's tempo's power to slow time down to the point where time stops in the area she chooses, and she has multiple times. she even slows down reaction time.
xakko
01-22-2007, 07:48 PM
I can't see Squirrel Girl taking Namor...not in the slightest.
Let's see, she's beaten, in continuity, Dr. Doom, MODOK, Terrax, Deadpool, and freakin' Thanos.
And at least one member of Batroc's Brigade.
She totally takes Namor.
Brian M.
01-22-2007, 07:49 PM
Let's see, she's beaten, in continuity, Dr. Doom, MODOK, Terrax, Deadpool, and freakin' Thanos.
And at least one member of Batroc's Brigade.
She totally takes Namor.
She's a squirrel...
xakko
01-22-2007, 07:51 PM
She's a squirrel...
Nutty pluck >>>>>>>>>>>> Imperius Rex.
element13
01-22-2007, 07:51 PM
Let's see, she's beaten, in continuity, Dr. Doom, MODOK, Terrax, Deadpool, and freakin' Thanos.
And at least one member of Batroc's Brigade.
She totally takes Namor.
all of those being Major cases of both cis and pis
Brian M.
01-22-2007, 07:52 PM
Nutty pluck >>>>>>>>>>>> Imperius Rex.
I always thought that was a joke...if she can take out Namor...why draft anyone else.
xakko
01-22-2007, 07:53 PM
all of those being Major cases of both cis and pis
and yet, it's continuity.
element13
01-22-2007, 07:54 PM
and yet, it's continuity.
and yet, they all occured in GLA, which marvel addmitted was a joke comic, and that nothing in it should be taken seriously
xakko
01-22-2007, 07:59 PM
and yet, they all occured in GLA, which marvel addmitted was a joke comic, and that nothing in it should be taken seriously
source?
(And Dr. Doom was beaten in Iron Man, not GLA)
element13
01-22-2007, 08:00 PM
source?
(And Dr. Doom was beaten in Iron Man, not GLA)
Wizard Magazine interviewed Tom Brevennont(spelling?) and the doom thing was retconned to a doom bot
xakko
01-22-2007, 08:02 PM
Wizard Magazine interviewed Tom Brevennont(spelling?) and the doom thing was retconned to a doom bot
well, isn't he lame?
and retconning something off panel shouldn't count.
element13
01-22-2007, 08:04 PM
well, isn't he lame?
and retconning something off panel shouldn't count.
look, your not even in this, stop spamming on useless things
well I'm off for the night. I'm a little dissappointed so many people voted before i even got a chance to post, and that so many people voted even without hearing anything from the oppposing team. I mean i have countered all their spots, and they have yet to respond
Atom_basher
01-22-2007, 08:29 PM
having Lorna have her pre apocalypse power level in this match really changes my thought process a tad, but i really still have to wrap my head around this match.
*starts to deeply ponder*
Gene M.
01-22-2007, 09:03 PM
Hmmm... Amazons dot com win in my book.
mattbib
01-22-2007, 09:07 PM
element13:
As you've noticed I had to edit the opening to your strategy; you're not allowed to use your powers or make any preprarations prior to the match.
I don't think you have the best grasp on Tempo's powers. She'd be dead keeping up with what you have her doing; she doesn't have that kind of endurance.
I also don't think, even if you COULD get Jeffries across the battlefiled to Madame Web, he'd have time to build a Box-bot.
Additionally, you can NOT embellish your submitted strategy in subsequent posts. So no go on the communicators, etc.
d_p & Hi-Fi:
Not for a second do I believe M and Squirrel Girl could dodge Namor that long.
In your strategy you include "plans" of what your opponents will be doing, and for very little deviation. It's not a good idea to battle based on wild assumptions.
Madame Web is an invalid; I'm pretty sure she can't lift her own arms, much less another person into her chair.
Both strategies have huge holes. element13 kind of leaves his strategy dangling, but I think d_p & Hi-Fi have not utilized their characters well enough, have made far too many assumptions, not allowing for alternatives, and, even IF Tempo were to eliminate herself, I think things would play out closer to element13's strategy.
sephirothskiller
01-22-2007, 09:25 PM
Hmmm... I have to go with Element13 on this one because he seems to have a slightly better grasp of what's going on. DP and Hi-Fi take major liberties, and I don't care that Squirrel Girl has "agility" I'm pretty sure Namor's enhanced speed would allow him to bring her down in less then ten seconds.
Also, MattBIB, I don't think Jeffries would have to get across to Webb to build his Box, since his powers work from a distance:
Photo Evidence!!
AF-28 (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight28-04.jpg)
AF-28 (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight28-08.jpg)
From Pretty far away. (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AlphaFlight43-08.jpg)
He can also once built a functional sentinal suit out a sentinal he was plummeting by, indicating that he would probably be able to build his Box armour fast enough to work in Eternal's plan:
Take that sentinal! (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AlphaFlight43-20.jpg)
Woot.
So personally, I think the box thing works.
The Lucky One
01-22-2007, 09:29 PM
Let's see, she's beaten, in continuity, Dr. Doom, MODOK, Terrax, Deadpool, and freakin' Thanos.
And yet, those were all off-panel. The Mutant League is entirely on-panel, suggesting SG would have a rough go of it.
But whatever, I just want to see Bruiser whomp on Squirrel Girl.
;)
-D
mattbib
01-22-2007, 09:33 PM
Hmmm... I have to go with Element13 on this one because he seems to have a slightly better grasp of what's going on. DP and Hi-Fi take major liberties, and I don't care that Squirrel Girl has "agility" I'm pretty sure Namor's enhanced speed would allow him to bring her down in less then ten seconds.
Also, MattBIB, I don't think Jeffries would have to get across to Webb to build his Box, since his powers work from a distance:
Photo Evidence!!
AF-28
AF-28
From Pretty far away.
He can also once built a functional sentinal suit out a sentinal he was plummeting by, indicating that he would probably be able to build his Box armour fast enough to work in Eternal's plan:
Take that sentinal!
Woot.
So personally, I think the box thing works.Thanks; I'll give you the very short time needed to transmut a Box-Bot, then. But he's in the immediate vicinity in each of those scans; that I'd believe. But not from 100 yards away.
The Lucky One
01-22-2007, 09:34 PM
well I'm off for the night. I'm a little dissappointed so many people voted before i even got a chance to post, and that so many people voted even without hearing anything from the oppposing team. I mean i have countered all their spots, and they have yet to respond
Not to be snide, but just be glad so many people are taking an interest and posting their thoughts, dude. You get to some of the later matches after the initial interest wanes, you're lucky if you get half a dozen comments from people not participating in the match.
-D
Siddon
01-22-2007, 11:31 PM
M and Squirrel Girl taunt Namor. M says Susan richards is a ho. Squirrel Girl
throws nuts from her nutsack. Namor gets pissed! His imperius rage makes him sloppy and easy for the bushy tailed mistress of the trees and M to dodge.
See we play the game in character and there is no way that Squirrel Girl would stand for such profanity by M. It is of my opinion that Squirrel Girl would turn on this team and join Elemental's side by first beating the feax british off M and then the crazy off Aurora.
Also launching the Dark Squirrel Saga. Which will be four parts based on the ressurection of Tippy Toe and banter between Leather Man and Penance and a fifth part based on Doctor Strange talking about how to beat Squirrel Girl.
My vote goes to Elemental (If I had one)
Atom_basher
01-22-2007, 11:47 PM
My vote goes to Elemental (If I had one)
why dont you have a vote?
edit: oh nm didnt see your partner voted
The Lucky One
01-23-2007, 12:13 AM
Points to element13 for creativity, but I agree that he's got Tempo doing just way, way too much... even if you don't factor in M and Web's psi-attack, she's going to be completely stopping time? She just can't manipulate it that much, and I think a speedster like Aurora would give her trouble. Don't think either strategy was bulletproof, but d_p and Hi's strained credibility the least. Still, hang in there, element... it's just the first match, things certainly aren't over yet!
-D
Zombienorthstar
01-23-2007, 01:44 AM
I think it's stupid to keep saying 'Squirrel Girl will win because she's beaten [insert powerful example]'
Many of these characters have beaten powerful people, but you need to prove HOW they're beating the opposing team...not just going 'and of course they'll win because they've beaten [random list]'
venuscameback
01-23-2007, 03:45 AM
yeah but it's tempo's power to slow time down to the point where time stops in the area she chooses, and she has multiple times. she even slows down reaction time.
You asked for more feedback, element13
The problem with Tempo is that her body cna't handle the physical stress of manipulating time, so if you use her to perform major feats - like holding an entire team still, when one of them is a speedster - then she's going to struggle & either give up trying to hold them or have a coronary.
I think Polaris would have similar problems holding a team like this against their will - a scan of Lorna controlling a mass of characters who don't have above peak human attributes isn't a convincing argument that she could hold a struggling Aurora in place.
Beyond that, you have capable characters with a good mix of powers and abilities, but the stunts they do have got to be listed in your strategy - telling us that Madison Jeffries will make a mini-Box 'bot out of Madame Web's chair, for example, in the battle thread is too late and not up for consideration. Ditto Scanner taking down Skids. Had you included things like that in your strategy I think the voting could have been markedly different but as it is you pretty much stand and fall on Tempo & Polaris.
and never under-estimate the might of Squirrel Girl - she's one of the most dangerous threats in the tournament
You lost my vote because of those factors, because of the difference in published strategies and teams. darker_phoenix and Hi-Fi's plans had their flaws, but I thought it more successful overall. Creativity and comic touches tend to come into effect with close ties that are hard to call - it's presentation, and as in all things presentation makes a difference. I wouldn't vote for them just because their strategy made me laugh
Mikl C
01-23-2007, 04:16 AM
JEEZ. Calm down people. I think Squirrel Girl and M can definitely hold Namor off for a while at least.
Mikl C
01-23-2007, 04:19 AM
element13:
Madame Web is an invalid; I'm pretty sure she can't lift her own arms, much less another person into her chair.
Molly is like, a child. I thought if she was pushing herself off the ground she could get in lolz.
Besides, Madame Web's last appearance was questionable as she looked old, but we never got any verification on her physical abilities.
Zombienorthstar
01-23-2007, 04:37 AM
Element 13...you're various digs around the boards are not in the interests of sportsmanship.
You can't retroactivley add things to your strategy...if it was incomplete in the first place, that's your fault.
People aren't voting for D_P and Hi-Fi because they're funny...stop being bitter.
Joe Acro
01-23-2007, 06:19 AM
I think Squirrel Girl and M can definitely hold Namor off for a while at least.
To me, the way they distracted Namor bothered me. It was funny, but it doesn't really work as a strategy.
mattbib
01-23-2007, 12:56 PM
Final score, subtracting multiple team votes, is 22:16.
Congratulations darker_phoenix & Hi-Fi. You'll be facing UTVol8102 & Atom_Basher next Monday, while element13 will be facing Tre Styles in the lower bracket.
Mikl C
01-23-2007, 01:02 PM
:D lollzz!!
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