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Kan-Man
01-10-2007, 07:50 AM
I saw an image today on another website that knocked loose a memory... it was a Captain America story where he fights another Captain America. I'm going to guess it was from the 70s, but it could have been an issue of Invaders for all I know.

There, vague enough for you?

dan bailey
01-10-2007, 08:01 AM
Brings to mind, at least for me, the U.S. Agent-"Capt America No More" issues (roughly 330-338 or so) of '88 or thereabouts, but probably a year has passed since I read those & I can't recall if we ever got a specific scenario of the "two Caps" actually squaring off in uniform ...

InfoBroker
01-10-2007, 08:18 AM
My knowledge of Marvel history get very shaky post 1972 or so, but for the record...

The first time silver-age Captain America fought another "Captain America" would be his encounter with the A.I.M. creation called the Adaptoid who adapted his molecular structure to that of Captain America's in Tales of Suspense #82.

In Suspense #84, the now Super-Adaptoid went hyper (er I mean Super) by adding the traits of the Wasp, Hawkeye and Goliath along with reapplying the patterning of Cap, and became the Avenger's empowered evil version of the Mimic (who had the combined powers of the X-men).

Being the Marvel universe, the Ataptoid and the Mimic did indeed cross paths a few months later in X-men #27.

Then to, just to continue this silver-age rambling, circa 1969 the Red Skull using the cosmic cube to switch bodies with the good Captain. Of course there are silver-age fans (myself included) that content that Cap's silver-age adventures concluded a handfull of issues earlier when Jim Steranko gave us his 3 issue take on the Living Legend of WWII. So I guess this isn't a silver-age rambling anymore.

I'm sure that post 1972 there have been a multitude of Captain America clones and stand ins.

-jb the "man! that is such a waste of a cube of cosmic proportions" ib-

Lone Ranger
01-10-2007, 08:26 AM
The Captain America of the 50s was retconned and reintroduced in the early 70s as a separate Cap (he's either Cap II, III or IV), who was revived from a state of suspended animation and battled the real Cap (Cap I) somewhere in the #150s and later in the early 80s.

I'm at work right now, so can't dig into it too much.

As I recall, he was brainwashed by Dr. Faustus and may have ultimately commited suicide.

There was also a revived 50s Bucky.

Cei-U!
01-10-2007, 08:52 AM
I suspect this may be the comic in question.

Cei-U!
Just call me Sherlock!

Lone Ranger
01-10-2007, 08:53 AM
I think that's the one I had in mind.

That's the 50s Cap right, Kurt?

mortari
01-10-2007, 08:53 AM
The revived Bucky became Nomad.

Steve Englehart story I think.

T GUy
01-10-2007, 10:03 AM
The Captain America of the 50s was retconned and reintroduced in the early 70s as a separate Cap (he's either Cap II, III or IV), who was revived from a state of suspended animation and battled the real Cap (Cap I) somewhere in the #150s - LR

That's what thought of as well. I think it's 154 - 157. Englehart and Sal Buscema.

It's 153 - 156 - does this (http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=25722&zoom=4) look familiar?

dancinhomer
01-10-2007, 10:04 AM
Yep.... the "Bucky" was Jack Monroe, and the bogus Cap was a madman who took Steve Rogers's place in the 1950's. He would make an appearance in an annual in the 1980's when everyone who wore Cap's uniform had some kind of adventure that I can't quite recall.

I had the issue before that one and it was more than a decade before I found out who that Cap was (we didn't have the Internet in the 1970's, ya know!)

Aaron King
01-10-2007, 10:22 AM
These issues were also sort of referenced in one of my favorite "What If?" issues, "What if Captain America were revived today?" It had a sweet Bill Sienkiewicz cover.

dan bailey
01-10-2007, 10:29 AM
I haven't yet read those Englehart issues, but the scenario rings a helluva bell. Must be from having read that What If? fairly recently, or maybe the whole saga as summarized in Cap 282 or thereabouts during my 90-odd-ishes-run reading marathon from, I think, last spring.

Kan-Man
01-10-2007, 11:04 AM
I suspect this may be the comic in question.

Cei-U!
Just call me Sherlock!

Holy cow, that's the one. I think I bought it off the spinner racks when I was a wee lad and I'm not sure I've seen it since.

Thanks everyone for the great detective work - you guys are like McMillan and Wife, Mannix and McCloud all rolled into one.

rick
01-10-2007, 11:29 AM
What about the issues where he Cap fought a giant version of himself that was actually an android with the ghost of the Golden age Patriot inside it.


http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3862/cap2go1.jpg

Naw, maybe not.

I bet it's this one...


http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3320/cap1dc1.jpg

Edit: I guess Kurt beat me to it.

I summon the too damm lateness.

T GUy
01-10-2007, 12:10 PM
Rick: I guess Kurt beat me to it.

I summon the too damm lateness.

I feel your pain, brother.

InfoBroker
01-10-2007, 01:11 PM
and just for completion sake, you guys do know what twisting and turning Marvel is doing with the Winter Soldier Nomad/Bucky/Cap/Sharon continuity of late.

er... don't follow this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucky) if you have a weak tummy, or don't want to read some major spoilage about recent Marvel continuity.

- jb the "in a bleak mid-winter" ib -

benday-dot
01-10-2007, 07:20 PM
I'm sure that post 1972 there have been a multitude of Captain America clones and stand ins.

-jb the "man! that is such a waste of a cube of cosmic proportions" ib-

InfoBroker... so right. This is the one that I immediately thought of... Ah comic books... knew about recycling long before Al Gore could pronounce the word.

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/1860/400/1860_4_220.jpg