CBR NEWS: Civil War #7 Cover, Delay and "Civil War: Confessions"

[Arune Singh]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9314

Marvel Comics' universe spanning "Civil War" is coming to a close soon, with a new release date and upped page count for issue #7, plus an all new "Civil War" special. We've got all the details, along with some new art, so come inside and check it out.

[superfriend]

Man, the city is in ruins.

I don't know if that's a case for or against the SHRA. :p

[Camron Amaya]

Looks good....and i wonder who took out Sentry if it's only these 2 left standing...if the cover is really a scene from inside I mean..

and hercules for that matter...but that could've been done by clor maybe..

[Sijo]

An EPILOGUE issue? Good Lord, they ARE milking this for all it's worth, isn't it? Will we have a Civil War: the 2007 Xmas Special too? Please, Marvel, I understand you're setting up a "New Status Quo", that there are still characters whose fate post-CW may need to be explored, and some plotlines may need to be tied up. But DON'T try to use CW to sell us on EVERY one of your books if they haven't been affected in a MAJOR way, the way DC did with the One Year Later thing.

And the epilogue had better be an important part of the story, or I'm just not buying it. If it's just people whining about the "end" of the war, forget it.

[Thursaiz]

Notice how Yellowjacket AND Hulkling are in that picture. So, does Hank somehow make it back from Arizona for the climactic battle...even after being replaced?

[Beast]

Notice how Yellowjacket AND Hulkling are in that picture. So, does Hank somehow make it back from Arizona for the climactic battle...even after being replaced?
Remember... covers usually have very little to do with the actual contents of the issues. Remember the fact that Colossus and Black Goliath were shown on the Pro-Reg side in a past cover. :p

[Magneto Rocks]

Hardly milking it TOO much IMO. If Steve or Tony is dead (and both have been WILDLY speculated to equal degrees) then we need a face to face meeting between the survivor and the leader of the opposite side. If not, we need a meeting between Tony and Steve. It could be told in IM, it could be told in Cap... but this is unfair if you like one and not the other. So they make a special. Anyway...

AWESOME cover. Seriously... superb. Really revs me up for the finale. We still need to see the Turner variant revealed, but it's been worse for every issue so far and I don't expect that to change. We need a bigger version though, even the "massive" scrollie at Newsarama is too small ;) It'll almost be a shame to see the Civil War logo across half the page- thqat cover could hold it alone and look amazing.

Guys, I wouldn't hold my breath for that scene being inside, given that the covers of- let's see- 1,2,3,4,5 and 6 never actually happened inside the issue ;) So while the ideal may happen (it all comes down to a finale between these two with no-one else standing) the details will not, so it's stupid to look for select heroes. Just look at the cover of #5.

[XPac]

I'm fine with delays if it equates to them flashing out the story more.

We got some really good stuff because of the earlier delays... it's frankly hard to imagine Civil War not occuring without Casualties of War for example. It was such an important piece of the puzzle that could not have occured without the delays.

I'm hoping the same will be said about Confessions as well.

[Exo]

Weren't it for the solicit of Civil War: The Confession, I would have said "bye bye" to Cap.

[Magneto Rocks]

I think we may have gotten "The Confession" anyway, it was hinted at a few times.

[agrich]

An EPILOGUE issue? Good Lord, they ARE milking this for all it's worth, isn't it?

Well, it is drawn by Alex Maleev, which is enough for me to plunk down my money no matter what happens in the thing. And considering everything, I think a talky face-to-face confrontation between Iron Man and Captain America (just a guess) makes sense; I'd rather buy that then pay attention to regular solicits of each character's book to find out when the two key heroes in all of this bury the hatchet (or whatever).

[pmpknface]

I'm just wondering....

HOW DO YOU ORDER THIS ISSUE?!?!?! It hasn't been in a previews! :(

[Beast]

I'm just wondering....

HOW DO YOU ORDER THIS ISSUE?!?!?! It hasn't been in a previews! :(
You'll have to tell your comic retailer that you want the issue.

CBR's story gave the order number that it's listed under.

[streator]

nice cover.

i might check out 'the confession' one-shot as well.

[alan brown]

"Two of the Marvel heroes most affected by the shocking conclusion of the war get together one last time. What is said between them will set the course of the Marvel Universe for years to come."

w00t.

This totally confirms my feeling that the $400 I'm thinking of plunking down for the Civil War 7 Turner sketch/signed CGC 9.8 is going to be soooo worth it (and before you start yapping, that's down from $450 regular price, momma didn't raise no fool).

30 years from now, when people are talking about the pre-civil war and post-civil war marvel universe, and looking back at the awesomeness of this seminal event, I'm gonna ebay that badboy and spend the rest of my days in the sun.

Sweet. :)

[Jmacq1]

Well if nothing else, Civil War #7 has one of the coolest covers I've ever seen.

Here's hoping they can surprise me and still salvage some kind of quality story out of the whole mess.

[Magneto Rocks]

Hmm. The leading antis hate the story and the leading pros love it. CO-INCADENCE!? I THINK NOT!

Almost as though the leading antis are mutilaiting the story in order to pull out the most anti-reg message and-

...Okay no, even I can't argue this one.

[bulbasteve]

Wait Pro-reg's like the idea? But Bendis is writing it! And he doesn't have Brian Reed on this one to tell him to stop being a dork and portray Iron Man fairly! :p

But it will probably be awesome anyway.

[Magneto Rocks]

No no, I mean Civil War in general, Bulba.

I'm afraid if Bendis writes it we'll be lucky if Iron Man has as much intelligent dialogue as a white man in a Spike Lee movie. (Family guy reference!)

[anthony!]

Remember... covers usually have very little to do with the actual contents of the issues. Remember the fact that Colossus and Black Goliath were shown on the Pro-Reg side in a past cover. :p

...and I seem to recall Professor X on the cover to issue 1.

[patch]

it was a fun series ...but the whole tease of x-men involvement by tb kinda muted my enjoyment of the mini.

[Brandon McKinnis]

Hmm. The leading antis hate the story and the leading pros love it. CO-INCADENCE!? I THINK NOT!

Almost as though the leading antis are mutilaiting the story in order to pull out the most anti-reg message and-

...Okay no, even I can't argue this one.

I've been Pro-Reg since the beginning...can I being one of the leading pros?

[TotalWorldDomination]

No no, I mean Civil War in general, Bulba.

I'm afraid if Bendis writes it we'll be lucky if Iron Man has as much intelligent dialogue as a white man in a Spike Lee movie. (Family guy reference!)

I must admit, I was dispontant about the story for a while, but with the addition of the Iron Man, Cap and Cap/Iron Man tie-ins It's realy redeemed itself for me. While I still think that the vast and overwhelming majority of the tie ins were anti-reg, The story itself is more then strong enough to make up for it.

Good Family Guy Reference BTW (although I'm suprised no-one has made that joke in the Semi-Annual "I hate Hudlin" fests that break out)

[Brandon McKinnis]

it was a fun series ...but the whole tease of x-men involvement by tb kinda muted my enjoyment of the mini.

I thought they put out X-Men: Civil War because the X-men were not going to be featured in the main mini.

[Harding Prime]

If it is as good as the Illuminati Special, then we need the Confessions one-shot. I'm not mad about this tie-in at all, the X-Men and others are the ones that you got to roll your eyes at.

[Jmacq1]

Hmm. The leading antis hate the story and the leading pros love it. CO-INCADENCE!? I THINK NOT!

Almost as though the leading antis are mutilaiting the story in order to pull out the most anti-reg message and-

...Okay no, even I can't argue this one.

I haven't cared overly much for this story from the beginning, and it's had very little to do with the Pro-Reg side so much as a whole host of other things.

I'm just finding it hard to see any possible "resolution" to this that will:

A: Actually be a resolution, and not (as another poster opined) be simply a "huge collection of loose ends to be tied up and or retconned later down the road."

B: Actually provide any sort of satisfactory ending to both sides and not simply one or the other, while not being incredibly stupid. I simply can't imagine Marvel's intent is to piss off a large chunk of their fanbase (which will occur no matter -which- side wins). Not to say it might not be an effect of the ending regardless, but an ending that doesn't provide any "hope" for the "losing" side isn't going to go over well.

or

C: Doesn't turn out to be such a huge "twist" that it comes across as almost completely random and virtually unrelated to the main story as a whole (see: "No more mutants").

So while I'm hoping for a resolution that somehow manages to avoid all these things...I'm preparing for the worst. No comic company has been doing very well with the whole "wrapping up of major crossovers" in the past couple years. I'm hoping this will be the exception, but I doubt it.

[Brandon McKinnis]

I really wish they'd put out a new civil war files explaining what happened to the heroes that didn't show up in any of the tie-ins or mini...if you've read my posts before you know which heroes i'm talking about specifically.

[oneasian]

This totally confirms my feeling that the $400 I'm thinking of plunking down for the Civil War 7 Turner sketch/signed CGC 9.8 is going to be soooo worth it (and before you start yapping, that's down from $450 regular price, momma didn't raise no fool).

30 years from now, when people are talking about the pre-civil war and post-civil war marvel universe, and looking back at the awesomeness of this seminal event, I'm gonna ebay that badboy and spend the rest of my days in the sun.

Sweet. :)

The value is probably there, but I think you'd save more money if you just talked to a shop owner and made a deal with them for the cover. doing that and then getting it signed and graded by a CGC witness wouldnt cost you $400.

just a thought. if you dont agree, then that's fine. i've been thinking about getting some CW graded too, but i dont know what issues i would do, or if i'd want the whole run, you know?

Anyways, I'm totally intereterested in The Confessions. I was thinking it could be both Iron Man and Cap talking about the hardships of leading the opposing sides in CW.

Seems to be what most people are thinking

[IamtheRock3]

I'm fine with delays if it equates to them flashing out the story more.
We got some really good stuff because of the earlier delays... it's frankly hard to imagine Civil War not occuring without Casualties of War for example. It was such an important piece of the puzzle that could not have occured without the delays.

I'm hoping the same will be said about Confessions as well.


it wont
Thing is shouldt have to buy extra One shots to fill in what kind of should of been said in the mini

Dont mind certain fights happening outside the story. But basic charcter motivation and big interaction should be in house

And these one shots seem to be just there to milk things. Feel rip off. Like

"Ohhh the story makes sense. You just got to buy these multiple one shots"

[leftfield]

I'm still sticking to my earlier thoughts that Cap ends up in prison after rejecting the 'pardon' - Tony and Steve sit down in prison and talk turkey

[ForEverAncien]

-Sighing- Looks like checkmate or a stall.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9314

Marvel Comics' universe spanning "Civil War" is coming to a close soon, with a new release date and upped page count for issue #7, plus an all new "Civil War" special. We've got all the details, along with some new art, so come inside and check it out.

[patch]

I thought they put out X-Men: Civil War because the X-men were not going to be featured in the main mini.

i know they were not going to be featured, but the lack of any meaningful involvment whatsoever kind of bummed out this x-fan.

and no way a lackluster sidestory with peripheral at best cw involvement is a substitute and even the the anti vs pro arguments on cbr dont make up for it.

[Nomad]

i know they were not going to be featured, but the lack of any meaningful involvment whatsoever kind of bummed out this x-fan.

and no way a lackluster sidestory with peripheral at best cw involvement is a substitute and even the the anti vs pro arguments on cbr dont make up for it.

The lack of meaningful involvement in HoM on Cap and Iron Man's part kinda bummed out this Avengers fan.

[Arilou]

The lack of meaningful involvement in HoM on Cap and Iron Man's part kinda bummed out this Avengers fan.

Heck, the lack of meaningful involvement with the X-men as a whole really bums me.

[Miss Kitty Fantastico]

A new one-shot, eh, whatever - the one-offs have been enjoyable so far, but all in all I've enjoyed the tie-ins to ongoing titles more (speaking of, that article listed Cap #25, is that right, #25 is a tie-in?). But that cover... yeah. I wanna have that cover's babies.

[Blackcat]

What is that Black Panther Warcrimes about? Never heard of that before, another newly added one-shot?

[FrogMan]

Civil War: The Confession = the REAL reason Civil War #7 was delayed.

I KNEW IT!!!

An extra issue is great, but Marvel, I'd rather have #7 at the end of January, thank you very much.

[pmpknface]

#7 also has 6 extra pages.

There are also a few books that have to wait until this comes out that we won't see. I'm dying to find out how this ends, but I can wait. It's not that big of a deal.

[Beast]

i know they were not going to be featured, but the lack of any meaningful involvment whatsoever kind of bummed out this x-fan.

and no way a lackluster sidestory with peripheral at best cw involvement is a substitute and even the the anti vs pro arguments on cbr dont make up for it.
I'm glad that they pretty much were left out. Saves them from being mangled by the writers. :)

[agrich]

Civil War: The Confession = the REAL reason Civil War #7 was delayed.

I KNEW IT!!!

An extra issue is great, but Marvel, I'd rather have #7 at the end of January, thank you very much.

Why would "The Confession" have any impact on when Civil War 7 is published? What difference would it make if there were a longer delay between 6 and 7 or between 7 and The Confession?

As for your preference, I suspect you're in the minority there.

[pmpknface]

The X-verse has enough going on in t anyhow. The Shi'ar story is excellent, the regular X-MEN title has been good and is just now building toward the annual and #200, plus they are getting an event of their own soon.

[XPac]

The X-verse has enough going on in t anyhow. The Shi'ar story is excellent, the regular X-MEN title has been good and is just now building toward the annual and #200, plus they are getting an event of their own soon.

Yeah... I agree.

The X Books are keeping busy. And so many of Marvels crossovers are mutant centric, that I can't really bring myself to care too much that they're being on the sidelines for this one storyline.

It's not like mutants haven't had their fair share of registration storylines anyways. THey've been dealing with this for over a decade and a half.

[Jmacq1]

i know they were not going to be featured, but the lack of any meaningful involvment whatsoever kind of bummed out this x-fan.

and no way a lackluster sidestory with peripheral at best cw involvement is a substitute and even the the anti vs pro arguments on cbr dont make up for it.

They just -couldn't- have any meaningful involvement, really. Because whichever side "got" them pretty much wins the war. There's a ton of power to be had among the X-Men and their peripheral teams. Their decision would have basically decided the whole war.

Of course, there's still the fact that Sentry will be completely downplayed (since at the moment -he- should be the deciding factor), but that doesn't bother me since that character needs to be wiped from existence again, IMHO.

Anyway, I was kind of glad to see that the Marvel Universe doesn't always revolve around the X-Men for a change.

And besides, as noted above, the X-Books are all pretty darn good right now, and at least the X-Men being "sidelined" meant that they didn't get to endure same character assassination that some of the others involved in the War got (Read: Iron Man and Captain America).

[XPac]

They just -couldn't- have any meaningful involvement, really. Because whichever side "got" them pretty much wins the war. There's a ton of power to be had among the X-Men and their peripheral teams. Their decision would have basically decided the whole war.

Of course, there's still the fact that Sentry will be completely downplayed (since at the moment -he- should be the deciding factor), but that doesn't bother me since that character needs to be wiped from existence again, IMHO.

Anyway, I was kind of glad to see that the Marvel Universe doesn't always revolve around the X-Men for a change.

And besides, as noted above, the X-Books are all pretty darn good right now, and at least the X-Men being "sidelined" meant that they didn't get to endure same character assassination that some of the others involved in the War got (Read: Iron Man and Captain America).


I'm glad you mentioned Sentry, cause I was about to argue that X-Men siding with Cap still wouldn't gurantee a win for them because of him.

Though I do imagine if the X men were involved, they'd likely be split like everyone else. Many could decide to stay neutral, while a few could be pro and anti. Of course I'm speaking hypothetically... if they wanted the Xmen to be involved without shifting the balance entirely it's possible. But like I said earlier... I'm perfectly fine with them being on the sidelines.

[Captain Exaggeration]

Marvel.com just released some new information about Civil War #7 including a special "Confessions" issue coming out in March. Here's the link: http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.575?utm_campaign=front+page+tracking&utm_source=main+graphic&utm_medium=big+graphic+link&utm_content=%2Fnews%2Fcomicstories.575

From the sound of it it seems Cap comes out alive.

[ShaggyB]

"Two of the Marvel heroes most affected by the shocking conclusion of the war get together one last time. What is said between them will set the course of the Marvel Universe for years to come."

w00t.

This totally confirms my feeling that the $400 I'm thinking of plunking down for the Civil War 7 Turner sketch/signed CGC 9.8 is going to be soooo worth it (and before you start yapping, that's down from $450 regular price, momma didn't raise no fool).

30 years from now, when people are talking about the pre-civil war and post-civil war marvel universe, and looking back at the awesomeness of this seminal event, I'm gonna ebay that badboy and spend the rest of my days in the sun.

Sweet. :)


Hmm perhaps you should wait and read it first. what if the ending is a "no more mutants" and the only time its refered to is how bad it was.

not that i think civil war will end badly but....... $400 is alot of cash (xbox360 right there)

[FrogMan]

Why would "The Confession" have any impact on when Civil War 7 is published? What difference would it make if there were a longer delay between 6 and 7 or between 7 and The Confession?

As for your preference, I suspect you're in the minority there.

I suspect I'm not.

[agrich]

Again, there's no reason to blame The Confession for having anything to do with the delay of Civil War #7. It's a different creative team. It doesn't matter if there's a longer delay between 6 and 7 or between 7 and The Confession. If Civil War 7 were actually done, they'd publish the thing right now and wouldn't care how much time passed before The Confession came out. Your theory doesn't make any sense.

As for your preference, obviously EVERYONE would love to have Civil War 7 in their hands right now. But since it's not done and it not being done has nothing to do with the follow-up one-shot, most people will be content to buy Civil War when it's actually done and THEN purchase The Confession, by Bendis and Maleev, whenever it comes out. I mean, we can agree the one-shot is going to do okay sales-wise, right? If you think no one cares about it, I guess after people have bought #7 they'll just leave The Confession on the stands to gather dust or something.

[pmpknface]

FYI - I emailed DBCS and they added this to my order for Feb. Me happy. :D

[FrogMan]

Again, there's no reason to blame The Confession for having anything to do with the delay of Civil War #7. It's a different creative team. It doesn't matter if there's a longer delay between 6 and 7 or between 7 and The Confession. If Civil War 7 were actually done, they'd publish the thing right now and wouldn't care how much time passed before The Confession came out. Your theory doesn't make any sense.

As for your preference, obviously EVERYONE would love to have Civil War 7 in their hands right now. But since it's not done and it not being done has nothing to do with the follow-up one-shot, most people will be content to buy Civil War when it's actually done and THEN purchase The Confession, by Bendis and Maleev, whenever it comes out. I mean, we can agree the one-shot is going to do okay sales-wise, right? If you think no one cares about it, I guess after people have bought #7 they'll just leave The Confession on the stands to gather dust or something.

No you're missing my point. It has nothing to do with the creative team, it has to do with Marvel saying, "Hey, let's make up some lame excuse for why Civil War #7 isn't gonna be out when it's supposed to, to give us time to make yet another crossover issue!" That's what they're doing, and anybody who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves.

Every delay has had new fill in issues to "tide us over" translation: help Marvel stretch the series out forever.

I mean, come on, NOW we have a 5 issue series (Fallen Son?) that takes place after Civil War ends???? Gimme a break. How long is it going to take them to get that one out? 9 months?

[scottv]

The cover looks amazing but I am starting to get annoyed with the delays!

[Graham Vingoe]

No you're missing my point. It has nothing to do with the creative team, it has to do with Marvel saying, "Hey, let's make up some lame excuse for why Civil War #7 isn't gonna be out when it's supposed to, to give us time to make yet another crossover issue!" That's what they're doing, and anybody who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves.

Every delay has had new fill in issues to "tide us over" translation: help Marvel stretch the series out forever.

I mean, come on, NOW we have a 5 issue series (Fallen Son?) that takes place after Civil War ends???? Gimme a break. How long is it going to take them to get that one out? 9 months?

No offence to you here Frogman but I had to reply..

So every event related to Civil War HAS to be resolved within the 28 page last issue does it?

By this logic, there can be no follow up series following Civil War at all so there goes your Avengers:The Initiative Series then. Oh, and Omega Flight as well...

Fallen Son is a 5 issue series planned to be published weekly - DC have managed that for 38 weeks now (many of them overseen by the same man now employed by Marvel- Steve Wacker). Marvel will do it, wait and see.
Tom Brevoort's blog and interviews have made it clear that Marvel want to move onto the next phase of their development, so to accuse them of stretching the series out forever is a real misjudgement imho.

[trickster]

No offence to you here Frogman but I had to reply..

So every event related to Civil War HAS to be resolved within the 28 page last issue does it?

By this logic, there can be no follow up series following Civil War at all so there goes your Avengers:The Initiative Series then. Oh, and Omega Flight as well...

Fallen Son is a 5 issue series planned to be published weekly - DC have managed that for 38 weeks now (many of them overseen by the same man now employed by Marvel- Steve Wacker). Marvel will do it, wait and see.
Tom Brevoort's blog and interviews have made it clear that Marvel want to move onto the next phase of their development, so to accuse them of stretching the series out forever is a real misjudgement imho.

Including ASM, Illuminati, War Crimes, Casualties of War, TB and what not, plus Fallen Son and Confesssions, there'll be close to (if not more) than 100 books (with the Civil War Label). I mean, yeah, they're a business, and some of the books were real good, but let's not be overprotective of them. They are stretching it.

[agrich]

Doesn't the marketplace determined if they're stretching things or not? Nobody is forcing anyone to buy these freaking things.

If Fallen Son is "too much," I guess we'll find out when nobody buys it. For me, "Frontline" is too much, so I didn't buy it. For a lot of other people, it wasn't, and they bought it.

It's like when they keep making sequels to such and such a movie and people complain about it. You know when they stop making sequels? As soon as one loses money.

Yes, Marvel will keep publishing Civil War tie-ins as long as they're profitable. It's what companies do and have always done. The question was, did they delay Civil War 7 simply to sell more tie-ins? And while that's certainly possible, as FrogMan himself said in the same post, they've got a whole bunch MORE tie ins to sell as soon as Civil War 7 comes out anyway. It doesn't sound like when that issue comes out they'll be done selling us Civil War tie-ins. Clearly they can keep this thing going for a while, and they will, as long as people keep buying them.

And as for why 7 was delayed, if somebody creative being behind schedule had nothing to do with it, it would have made a lot more sense for Marvel to simply publish issue 7 on time, but suddenly make it an 8-issue limited series. Or 9, or 12, or whatever. I mean, selling something called Civil War 8 would have been a whole lot more profitable than selling something called The Confession.

As for the charge that Marvel wouldn't mind stretching things out indefinitely and making a boatload of money off it, well, obviously I agree. But sometimes they're just late on stuff. I mean, we've been waiting for Ultimates 2 #13 for quite a while, and there are no crossovers or tie ins depending on it. I'm sure Marvel would have loved to sell us that 6 months ago, so they could get about the business of selling us Ultimates 3.

[MAK15]

I wonder when we'll see the michael Turner variant for ish 7

[DoctorDoom]

I suppose one more lil delay won't kill me. Might kill Marvel marketing and such, maybe comic sales, shops, etc, but not me.

[Berkey]

The Confession anyone thinks it's going to be eith Tony or Tony and Reed or Tony and someone in the gov. admiting to this war being unnecessary and for reasons of personal gain. I think when spiderman and Ben were looking at the computer and seeing the stock raise supports this. And also we have to wait until after #7 for Frontline 11 to tell us the real reason

[NightMage]

I wonder when we'll see the michael Turner variant for ish 7

Your prayers have been answered.

http://marvel.com/wallpaper/fetchimage.htm?id=784&size=med

Pretty sweet looking too. :D

[DoctorDoom]

Sweet looking indeed...