Anyone have scans of X-23's bare feet? [Archive]

ibrakeforchinwe

01-04-2007, 07:35 AM

It comes out between her Big Toe and her "index" toe. She has to have her foot straight out like a ballet dancer in order for her claw to come out, so her claw must be up in her calf. Both her and wolverine's hand claws are housed in their forearms so it would make sense that her foot claw is housed in her calf.:)

steve2275

01-04-2007, 08:30 AM

thats just gotta be :p muder on her socks
and not all of us female footlovers are freaks

chickrockguitar

01-04-2007, 11:07 AM

It comes out between her Big Toe and her "index" toe. Yep, that is correct. There's a good image of it in her first mini, issue #2, I think. Sorry, I don't have a scanner...

ibrakeforchinwe

01-04-2007, 07:27 PM

Here ya go:

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j182/Michael_P_Darkling/x-16.jpg

Matthew K.

01-05-2007, 12:42 AM

Thank God. I thought you were a weird foot fetish comic kicks person. Lolz.

umm...yeah cause that would be wierd

quickly hides the stash of "comic lady feet" scans :o

chickrockguitar

01-05-2007, 01:16 AM

Yep! That's the one I was think' of!

Apocalypse Now Then!

01-05-2007, 04:59 AM

A foot fetish thread! Nice.

X-23 doesn't do it for me.

I want som Nocturne, Two toed freaky blue foot action! ;)

ibrakeforchinwe

01-05-2007, 05:12 AM

A foot fetish thread! Nice.

X-23 doesn't do it for me.

I want som Nocturne, Two toed freaky blue foot action! ;)

Retractable tail!!!

The Sword Is Drawn

01-05-2007, 05:16 AM

A foot fetish thread! Nice.

X-23 doesn't do it for me.

I want som Nocturne, Two toed freaky blue foot action! ;)

Lol! Is Wales warping your mind again Apocalypse? :D

Surely you could find some of that kind of action in Aberystwyth, on a Saturday night, if you wanted it that bad?

Apocalypse Now Then!

01-05-2007, 05:26 AM

Lol! Is Wales warping your mind again Apocalypse? :D

WarpING? My mind was warped long ago...

Surely you could find some of that kind of action in Aberystwyth, on a Saturday night, if you wanted it that bad?

Yeah. You're probably right, there.:D

Zombienorthstar

01-05-2007, 05:45 AM

i find Laura's 'foot bone' really unpheasible.

ibrakeforchinwe

01-05-2007, 08:36 AM

i find Laura's 'foot bone' really unpheasible.

Itd be great for Ballet Dancing.

X23

01-05-2007, 08:58 AM

TinMan

01-05-2007, 09:17 AM

I don't think the claw goes up into her calf. The foot claw isn't as long as the hand claws, and if you look at the extended part of the claw and compare it to the size of her foot, couldn't it possibly just retract all the way to the back of her foot, almost to where its sitting against her heel?

Take a look at this picture: http://sika.ecolad.com/img/foot_anatomy_bones01a.jpg
(http://sika.ecolad.com/img/foot_anatomy_bones01a.jpg)

It looks like, seated where it is, it could retract far enough and rest against the
navicular.

The only problem with that theory is the fact that all of the bones of the foot are capable of movement, so with that solid claw in there she wouldn't be able to walk or fight for $#!^.

With the hand claws it at least makes a bit of sense because the claws can retract directly from the hand to the forearm, but with the foot being at a 90 degree angle to the leg, it's not that easy.

I just say it's one of those things that you have to rack up to "suspension of desbelief" and not think about it to hard, otherwise it just ruins the character.

Zombienorthstar

01-05-2007, 09:25 AM

I don't think the claw goes up into her calf. The foot claw isn't as long as the hand claws, and if you look at the extended part of the claw and compare it to the size of her foot, couldn't it possibly just retract all the way to the back of her foot, almost to where its sitting against her heel?

Take a look at this picture: http://sika.ecolad.com/img/foot_anatomy_bones01a.jpg
(http://sika.ecolad.com/img/foot_anatomy_bones01a.jpg)

It looks like, seated where it is, it could retract far enough and rest against the
navicular.

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5875/nerdsxv9.png

Hi. Question for Ms. Bellamy. In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a... (sniggering) magic xylophone or something?

X23

01-05-2007, 10:19 AM

Hhahahahaa!

Toboe

01-05-2007, 10:28 AM

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5875/nerdsxv9.png

Hi. Question for Ms. Bellamy. In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a... (sniggering) magic xylophone or something?

I was soo thinking about that Simpsons episode as well... weird... anyway, it's hillarious.

And X-23 totally rocks, no matter where she keeps her foot claw. :)

Xanrn

01-05-2007, 11:28 AM

If Logan's arms can mutate for all the stuff needed to be able to pop 3 claws.

I am sure Laura's foot can mutate enough to pop 1.

Their Mutants, they don't have to have human bone structure.

Affinity

01-06-2007, 07:53 AM

I think I've also noticed her angling (angle-ing) her foot whenever she uses the foot claw. Beings housed in her calf makes the most sense for me. Not like she walks around with the claw extended in her foot all the time.

Callisto

01-06-2007, 11:51 AM

I know it sounds like a fetish but I'm curious where the claw pops out. Is it from the big toe or between the toes? Also, the claw seems to be as long as her foot. Wouldn't it hamper her ability to walk since the foot needs to bend?

HMMM...sounds like the words of an undercover perv to me!!!:evilangry lol j/k

maczero

01-06-2007, 04:33 PM

HMMM...sounds like the words of an undercover perv to me!!!:evilangry lol j/kNah, not really into feet. Other than having five toes and being reasonably manicured I really don't care how a woman's feet look. However, I do find the pic below particularly nasty.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j182/Michael_P_Darkling/x-16.jpg
BTW, thanks for posting the scans ibrakeforchinwe.

John Nowak

01-06-2007, 09:00 PM

Put me down for the "Retracts into calves" option. Actually, the bone claws look unnatural to me. Does anyone know why Marvel decided to retcon the "bionic housings in Wolverine's forearms" to bone claws?

Actually, I don't think anyone's really done a comic book with retractable claws that mimic the way a cat's claws actually work. Usually, I think, they're shown as fingernails that extend. A cat's claw is more like the last joint in a human finger, except it is generally lifted off the ground. It doesn't "extend out." It "rotates down."

Vaal

01-06-2007, 09:12 PM

You don't see cat's claws because they're not striking or concealable.

- Inch long nubs aren't as cool as foot long talons
- The dude with the with the big, round bumps on the back of his hands is fairly conspicuous.

Magneto_X

01-06-2007, 09:40 PM

Magneto_X

01-06-2007, 09:42 PM

If Logan's arms can mutate for all the stuff needed to be able to pop 3 claws.

I am sure Laura's foot can mutate enough to pop 1.

Their Mutants, they don't have to have human bone structure.

My question is how did she get the foot claws?

I know she's a clone of Wolvie, but did they do anything to her or was she "born" with it?

Magneto_X

01-06-2007, 09:45 PM

Put me down for the "Retracts into calves" option. Actually, the bone claws look unnatural to me. Does anyone know why Marvel decided to retcon the "bionic housings in Wolverine's forearms" to bone claws?

My theory is Marvel still wanted to give some type of claws even if he didn't have his adamantium.

It makes sense. After all, his claws are one of his unique characteristics.

With no claws he's just another beserker, only who has a healing factor.

Zengei

01-06-2007, 10:14 PM

My question is how did she get the foot claws?

I know she's a clone of Wolvie, but did they do anything to her or was she "born" with it?
Born with it, and why is born in quotes? She was a full term pregnancy. The explanation is that Wolverine's claws like many other traits are linked to sex and that in males they're expressed as 3 claws in the forearm while in females they're expressed as 2 claws in he forearm and a single one in the foot.

Buddahbelly

01-07-2007, 01:35 AM

My question is how did she get the foot claws?

I know she's a clone of Wolvie, but did they do anything to her or was she "born" with it?

IIRC they said it had to do with the XX chromosome. Females have a foot claw and males don't. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Crimson

01-07-2007, 02:36 AM

My theory is Marvel still wanted to give some type of claws even if he didn't have his adamantium.

It makes sense. After all, his claws are one of his unique characteristics.

With no claws he's just another beserker, only who has a healing factor.

She does have his adamantium. Those images are just pre-op.

Vaal

01-07-2007, 09:36 AM

I think he means the Bone claws wolvie has.

John Nowak

01-08-2007, 06:48 PM

My theory is Marvel still wanted to give some type of claws even if he didn't have his adamantium.

Yeah, that's probably right. Hmm. Kind of wish they had kept the bionic claws while losing the adamantium.

Sean Whitmore

01-09-2007, 01:23 AM

I started this same thread about Rogue a few years ago and everyone called me names. :( Go figure.

SEAN

ibrakeforchinwe

01-09-2007, 04:32 AM

Speaking of Rogue...if she touched X-23 I wonder if she would pop 2 hand claws and 1 foot claw or 3 hand claws, like when she touches Logan..

Hmm...

TinMan

01-09-2007, 05:10 AM

Yeah, that's probably right. Hmm. Kind of wish they had kept the bionic claws while losing the adamantium.

How would they do that though? That concept doesn't make sense: they put bionic bone claws in him, THEN cover them with adamantium? Doesn't make one lick of sense at all.

Frankly, I wish they never had Mags strip his adamantium to begin with. It was stupid to begin with and caused all kinds of doofy problems. As I've said in other threads before, the bone claw story doesn't jive with previous stories, nor does the "mechanical claw" idea. If I recall correctly it was only hinted at that his claws were bionic prior to the Marvel Comics Presents: Weapon X story, and that story didn't even confirm which was true. I mean, The Professor and Cornelius both were surprised when Logan popped those things for the first time so:

1) It's obvious they didn't put them in there...
2) I guess they didn't have the budget to buy a friggin X-Ray machine cause they would have known bone claws were there had they had that little piece of equipment.

The whole concept is convoluted because of the piece mealed ideas. I say don't try to rip it apart and just accept it as a work of fantasy.

John Nowak

01-10-2007, 06:11 AM

How would they do that though? That concept doesn't make sense: they put bionic bone claws in him, THEN cover them with adamantium? Doesn't make one lick of sense at all.

This isn't too hard: someone strips out his adamantium, including the bionic adamantium claw implants which I believe have been mentioned repeatedly during the Claremont days. Someone else reproduces the adamantium claws in, say, titanium which is non-magnetic and doesn't rust.

TinMan

01-10-2007, 06:27 AM

This isn't too hard: someone strips out his adamantium, including the bionic adamantium claw implants which I believe have been mentioned repeatedly during the Claremont days. Someone else reproduces the adamantium claws in, say, titanium which is non-magnetic and doesn't rust.

Do you mean after the adamantium was stripped or before hand? The reason I ask is because even if you precoated titanium claws with adamantium it wouldn't matter. Mags has been shown to manipulate even nonferous metals, so it would be irrelevant in this situation.

I can see your point on recreating them after the fact... but I dunno, I think that concept would have been more haggard and harder to deal with than the bone was. Titanium isn't as strong as Adamantium for one, meaning they could be broken by villians with super strength. So Logan would constantly have to have them repaired... at least with bone they would regrow over time, as shown in different stories. I for one like the bone claw concept, it doesn't give you a "cyborg" feeling like cybernetics do... but bone claws don't make sense for Adamantium lacing unfortunately... I mean, the bone claws are always depicting thick and round, then when they're Adamantium coate they look thin and bladed... doesn't make any sense. If they had come up with a different "bone claw" look, it would make far more sense.

John Nowak

01-11-2007, 06:17 AM

Do you mean after the adamantium was stripped or before hand? The reason I ask is because even if you precoated titanium claws with adamantium it wouldn't matter. Mags has been shown to manipulate even nonferous metals, so it would be irrelevant in this situation.

After the adamantium is stripped.

I can see your point on recreating them after the fact... but I dunno, I think that concept would have been more haggard and harder to deal with than the bone was.

Aside from the whole "Bone claws violating twenty years of established continuity" part, which was really my biggest problem with them.

TinMan

01-11-2007, 06:34 AM

After the adamantium is stripped.

Gotcha.

Aside from the whole "Bone claws violating twenty years of established continuity" part, which was really my biggest problem with them.

I'd still like to see quotes on this, cause as I know it, it was never officially stated in cannon they were mechanical, it was only hinted at. Therefore the adaption of the bone claws wasn't out of left field. But then again, I know I haven't read every back issue of Uncanny either, so I can't say personally.

Like I said also, Weapon X didn't even address it, so to me, there was no "Wolverine's claws are mechanical" cannon. I just wanna know where you're getting the confirmation you're talking about.

John Nowak

01-12-2007, 06:17 AM

Like I said also, Weapon X didn't even address it, so to me, there was no "Wolverine's claws are mechanical" cannon. I just wanna know where you're getting the confirmation you're talking about.

That's fair. Unfortunately, because of a series of moves, I don't have access to the original comics and can't quote a direct reference. However, during the Claremont era, there were repeated references to "adamantium claws are released from their bionic housings in Wolverine's forearms," and diagrams in the Handbooks showing the mechanism.

TinMan

01-12-2007, 06:19 AM

That's fair. Unfortunately, because of a series of moves, I don't have access to the original comics and can't quote a direct reference. However, during the Claremont era, there were repeated references to "adamantium claws are released from their bionic housings in Wolverine's forearms," and diagrams in the Handbooks showing the mechanism.

Ah, interesting, I'd never heard of the handbook stuff and I don't know if I've ever read an old CC issue with the "bionic housing" type comments (I'm still working on getting all of the essentials and reading them).

FortKnox

01-13-2007, 02:52 PM

How would they do that though? That concept doesn't make sense: they put bionic bone claws in him, THEN cover them with adamantium? Doesn't make one lick of sense at all.

Frankly, I wish they never had Mags strip his adamantium to begin with. It was stupid to begin with and caused all kinds of doofy problems. As I've said in other threads before, the bone claw story doesn't jive with previous stories, nor does the "mechanical claw" idea. If I recall correctly it was only hinted at that his claws were bionic prior to the Marvel Comics Presents: Weapon X story, and that story didn't even confirm which was true. I mean, The Professor and Cornelius both were surprised when Logan popped those things for the first time so:

1) It's obvious they didn't put them in there...
2) I guess they didn't have the budget to buy a friggin X-Ray machine cause they would have known bone claws were there had they had that little piece of equipment.

The whole concept is convoluted because of the piece mealed ideas. I say don't try to rip it apart and just accept it as a work of fantasy.

Speaking of Mags stripping the adamantium the first thing I thought of when I first read the story way back when was, "Why in the hell did Magneto wait so long to do something like this?" I mean he fought Wolverine tons of times for YEARS and he's now just thought about doing something like that to him.

And after Wolverine got the metal back my first thought was "What's to keep Magneto from doing it again?"

maczero

01-14-2007, 05:35 AM

Speaking of Mags stripping the adamantium the first thing I thought of when I first read the story way back when was, "Why in the hell did Magneto wait so long to do something like this?" I mean he fought Wolverine tons of times for YEARS and he's now just thought about doing something like that to him.

And after Wolverine got the metal back my first thought was "What's to keep Magneto from doing it again?"I believe Mags was at the height of his power at the time (or at least he wasn't portrayed that powerful in the past). Maybe I shouldn't say powerful but it was obvious he learned a few tricks with his power. I believe he also used the "paralyze multiple opponents by locking onto the iron in their blood" trick for the first time during that arc.

Shaoken

01-18-2007, 03:01 AM

Magneto had more control over his powers at that point and Wolverine really pissed him off at the time. But the reason Magneto has bever tried to do it again was because Xavier wiped his mind because of it, and as a direct result Onslaught was created. Magneto doesn't want to risk it.

wingsofdamnation

01-21-2007, 09:10 PM

My question is how did she get the foot claws?

I know she's a clone of Wolvie, but did they do anything to her or was she "born" with it?
i forget where but in an issue they say that wolverine was always capable of having foot claws but since he was a male the process never happened. since x23 is a female clone of wolverine the claws grew. it all went down to genetics

Callisto

01-21-2007, 11:55 PM

what purpose would a female version have for the foot claw that a male version wouldn't?

John Nowak

01-22-2007, 06:28 AM

what purpose would a female version have for the foot claw that a male version wouldn't?

Some sexually dimorphic traits appear somewhat random-ish; usually a biologist will claim it's a display trait. But yeah, it does seem odd for a male and female to have different numbers of claws in different places.

Craig Kyle

01-22-2007, 05:15 PM

what purpose would a female version have for the foot claw that a male version wouldn't?

Here's my original theory on the claws...

X-23's foot claw is primarily a defensive weapon. If you compare Wolverine and X-23 to males and females in a pride of lions, you’ll see that their genetic differences are inspired by their role within the pack. Males are the protectors of the pride, so they need all of their weapons up front for attacking and killing those who would harm the pack. Females are the hunters of the pride but also are responsible for raising the young. If a female is attacked or injured in a hunt or attack, the foot claws give them another weapon to use in battle so that they have a better chance of escaping and returning to their young. The claw placement in both X-23 and Wolverine was determined by natural selection, not genetic tampering.

Hope that answer is helpful.

Best,

Craig

steve2275

01-23-2007, 12:33 AM

lauras foot claw just makes it easier for her to kick guys where where it really hurts

John Nowak

01-23-2007, 05:59 AM

The claw placement in both X-23 and Wolverine was determined by natural selection, not genetic tampering.

...Except, of course, there is no breeding population of Wolverines as a distinct species, so there's no room for natural selection to play in at all.

TinMan

01-23-2007, 06:04 AM

...Except, of course, there is no breeding population of Wolverines as a distinct species, so there's no room for natural selection to play in at all.

But there's also no genetic mutation in real life that would cause a human to develop heightened senses, a healing factor and bone claws that protrude from the body.

I think the point is that because of the XX chromosomes instead of the XY chromosomes, the mutation took a slightly different effect in the physical side, namely the ability to defend one's self. Survival of the fitest.

Vaal

01-23-2007, 01:31 PM

...Except, of course, there is no breeding population of Wolverines --
Yet.

I seem to remember a really wiggy storyline somewhere with werewolf mutants as a species, actually.

Brett P

01-23-2007, 05:18 PM

You don't refer to the Parrot Wolves of Doom by any chance do you? The largely despised Dominant Species during the largely despised Austen run on X-men?

I actually kinda liked both mind you xD

It wasn't so much a "werewolf mutant species" as a bunch of mutants with wolf mutations moving together. Husk worried than one day mutants may start to group together and form communities in that way ie winged mutants together etc and become as seprate from other mutants as mutants and humans are currently.

And I think X-23 and her foot claw are infinitely cooler than Wolvie.

chickrockguitar

01-24-2007, 02:34 AM

TinMan

01-24-2007, 05:28 AM

Oo. Okay. Thanks for the input Chris! :)

Ya, I like Laura's foot claw. It shows she IS different from Logan... Speaking of, what about his son (Laura's nephew - how weird is that? lol), he has three claws, but in a different position to his dads.

I don't like that term "Laura's nephew" considering she really isn't Logan's sister, but whatever! :p

Frankly I thought the third claw thing on his kid was stupid, really stupid actually. Especially since it didn't even show up in Origins #10 and was only on a 1 in 100 variant cover. But I guess you could chalk that thing up to further evolution/mutation or possibly genetic manipulation by the Weapon Plus scientists.

John Nowak

01-24-2007, 06:21 AM

But there's also no genetic mutation in real life that would cause a human to develop heightened senses, a healing factor and bone claws that protrude from the body.

Exactly, whereas there is such a thing as natural selection, which doesn't apply here.

Brett P

01-27-2007, 06:51 PM

Oo. Okay. Thanks for the input Chris! :)

That was Craig, Alex :D

I can just see Claremont taking the Exiles to a world where everyone has developed Wolverine claws...I wonder how many combinations of number of claws in body parts he could come up with..?

chickrockguitar

01-28-2007, 04:05 AM

That was Craig, Alex :DEDIT: Oops! My bad... It was early for me when I wrote that. I'd just got up... lol.

Callisto

01-28-2007, 01:28 PM

Here's my original theory on the claws...

X-23's foot claw is primarily a defensive weapon. If you compare Wolverine and X-23 to males and females in a pride of lions, you’ll see that their genetic differences are inspired by their role within the pack. Males are the protectors of the pride, so they need all of their weapons up front for attacking and killing those who would harm the pack. Females are the hunters of the pride but also are responsible for raising the young. If a female is attacked or injured in a hunt or attack, the foot claws give them another weapon to use in battle so that they have a better chance of escaping and returning to their young. The claw placement in both X-23 and Wolverine was determined by natural selection, not genetic tampering.

Hope that answer is helpful.

Best,

Craig

but wolverines mutation has nothing to do with lions....?

Callisto

01-28-2007, 01:30 PM

Oo. Okay. Thanks for the input Chris! :)

Ya, I like Laura's foot claw. It shows she IS different from Logan... Speaking of, what about his son (Laura's nephew - how weird is that? lol), he has three claws, but in a different position to his dads.

EDIT: Oops! I ment Craig, not Chris, lol. It was early for me...

where are his three claws?