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Preus

01-02-2007, 09:02 PM

Well, I've recently read that Bizarro is stronger than Superman but because of his condition he can't access his true potential. Is this true?

Jack Zodiac

01-02-2007, 09:32 PM

It was brought up once in an issue of Superman about five years ago by Loeb, back when Bizarro was dumb but meant well, not dumb and dangerous. They probably dropped the whole idea by now.

Preus

01-02-2007, 09:40 PM

That probably could've been used in an interesting angle. In some way Bizarro gets changed back to being "normal" & he decides to become evil. In the process he battles & beats the crap out of Superman but his reign is short of course after Superman figures out some way to beat him.

I have another question, since Bizarro does everything Superman does but backwards, does he get his powers from a yellow sun or a moon?

666MasterOfPuppets

01-03-2007, 07:43 AM

666MasterOfPuppets

01-03-2007, 07:44 AM

It was brought up once in an issue of Superman about five years ago by Loeb, back when Bizarro was dumb but meant well, not dumb and dangerous. They probably dropped the whole idea by now.

Yeah. Not only in that issue, but it was implied during Ending Battle.

Five years ago? Damn, time goes fast...

Preus

01-03-2007, 08:37 AM

If Bizarro were to wear a Blue Kryptonite ring he'd change back to being a regular Superman clone.

Jack Zodiac

01-03-2007, 02:12 PM

Yeah. Not only in that issue, but it was implied during Ending Battle.

Five years ago? Damn, time goes fast...

I know, especially in comics. And I think the reason Bizarro was mentioned to be more dangerous during "Ending Battle" was because he wasn't backwards at the time, under Manchester Black's mental control. He was "normal."

And Preus, blue kryptonite depowers Bizarro. He's still backwards, but powerless.

Preus

01-03-2007, 02:36 PM

I read that in one story it turned him normal & he had a 12th level intellect but he was still afraid of bk.

666MasterOfPuppets

01-08-2007, 07:00 AM

Joe Acro

01-08-2007, 07:02 AM

I read that in one story it turned him normal & he had a 12th level intellect but he was still afraid of bk.
That's sort of what happened in Superman/Batman.

Preus

01-08-2007, 01:27 PM

I had a question that was never answered:

Does Bizarro gain powers from a yellow sun like Superman or not?

Kara Zor El

01-08-2007, 04:02 PM

I had a question that was never answered:

Does Bizarro gain powers from a yellow sun like Superman or not?

I don't think that has ever been explained.

marshal99

01-08-2007, 10:11 PM

I know, especially in comics. And I think the reason Bizarro was mentioned to be more dangerous during "Ending Battle" was because he wasn't backwards at the time, under Manchester Black's mental control. He was "normal."

And Preus, blue kryptonite depowers Bizarro. He's still backwards, but powerless.

Pre-crisis , Blue Kryptonite kills Bizarro as seen in that famous alan moore story "whatever happened to the man of tomorrow". Post Crisis , in a story that doesn't seemed to be in continuity , superman/batman 25 , blue kryptonite turns bizarro coherent and a 12th level intellect ?!?

PatrickG

01-09-2007, 01:00 AM

It's in continuity. Why wouldn't it be?

666MasterOfPuppets

01-09-2007, 04:25 AM

I'll have to dig that issue out. Can't remember what it was all about.

EDIT: Has been established what kind of effect does Blue K have on Big Blue? I don't recall seeing this...

Joe Acro

01-09-2007, 05:01 AM

I'll have to dig that issue out. Can't remember what it was all about.

EDIT: Has been established what kind of effect does Blue K have on Big Blue? I don't recall seeing this...
Isn't it that Green Kryptonite doesn't affect Bizarro and Blue doesn't affect Superman?

marshal99

01-09-2007, 06:43 AM

It's in continuity. Why wouldn't it be?

A lot of the later Superman/Batman stories tends to be pretty disjointed (and garbage) and out of sync with stories set in the normal DCU.

Blue Kryptonite doesn't do anything to superman but it can kill Bizarro (at least in pre-crisis).

The different types of kryptonite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptonite

PatrickG

01-09-2007, 06:48 AM

Well... Based on the cover of the Action Comics annuals, I suspect we're going back to the Silver Age colors/effects.

But since the piece of Blue K in this story was presumably created by the same magic as Bizarro and Batzarro, it works.

Also, a Bizarro Batman should carry a Blue K ring. It makes a kind of sense. And if he carries it, he does so to HELP Bizarro.

So by Bizarro logic, Batzarro's Blue K ring makes sense. And we can assume he either experimented with it to change its effect or it's simply one wonky piece because it -- like Bizarro and Batzarro -- was created by the Joker's magic.

666MasterOfPuppets

01-09-2007, 10:57 AM

Isn't it that Green Kryptonite doesn't affect Bizarro and Blue doesn't affect Superman?

I don't know. But it can't be that obvious, can it?

And if there's a type of Kryptonite that affects Bizarro positively, does that mean that there's a Kryptonite that affects Superman in the same way?

BTW, I'd like to see Supes exposed to Black K, just to see if there's any effect.

MPagar

01-09-2007, 11:43 AM

It'll probably be the same thing for Clark as it was for Kara. Then again, Kara had certain factors that could have played on the black-k working the way it did. Maybe we'll get a generic evil Superman? Eh, I'm not interested to see more kryptonite pop up aside from the green one anyway.

666MasterOfPuppets

01-10-2007, 06:44 AM

Exactly. The thing with Supergirl (ugh) was that there was a source for the evil Supergirl to come from. Superman? Does he have an evil side? Who knows, perhaps. But I guess that source would be much, much smaller, if there's any.

marshal99

01-10-2007, 09:22 AM

Of course , superman has a evil side , who doesn't ? It'll probably end up like Superman III or the pre-crisis DC comic presents 29 where spectre made superman face his dark side.

glennsim

01-10-2007, 12:12 PM

I'll have to dig that issue out. Can't remember what it was all about.

EDIT: Has been established what kind of effect does Blue K have on Big Blue? I don't recall seeing this...

pre-Crisis, it had no effect on Superman. Blue K had the same effect on Bizarros that Green K had on Superman.

Preus

01-10-2007, 01:17 PM

Yeah, green kryptonite is as useless to Bizarro as blue kryptonite is as useless to Superman.

666MasterOfPuppets

01-11-2007, 11:44 AM

Of course , superman has a evil side , who doesn't ? It'll probably end up like Superman III or the pre-crisis DC comic presents 29 where spectre made superman face his dark side.

But isn't there a JLA story in which Superman was the only JLA member able to withstand the Light Of Heaven because of his pure soul (or something like that)?

pre-Crisis, it had no effect on Superman. Blue K had the same effect on Bizarros that Green K had on Superman.

But what about Post-Crisis?

Well, I think that, eventually, he will be exposed to all the "new" kinds of Kryptonite. Perhaps we'll see something like that during "Act Three". It's a very wild guess, though.