52 #33 *spoilers*

[Kara Zor El]

SLIGHT SPOILERS: I thought the scene between Montoya and The Question was quite beautiful. I really liked the bit showing all the different characters/situations so far in 52 having a moment each, even if it was only a panel. I don't know why but this one felt special. Lex had a wonderful moment of Evil too. END OF SLIGHT SPOILERS

[blackphoenix]

Man I totally fell asleep reaading this issue. I can't believe Santa didn't show up during this. I wonder what that thing was Ralph Dibny took from the Flash museum?

Hey Nightwing? The lady just wants to be friends. Trust me, she's not into you.

[Sean Walsh]

Man I totally fell asleep reaading this issue. I can't believe Santa didn't show up during this.

We got something even better:

Alfred! :)

[Schornforce]

Unless I'm mistaken, Ralph stole a gun. I think the implication is that he is going to try and shoot himself like he tried to do (or did?) in issue 1.

[Schornforce]

We got something even better:

Alfred! :)

Correction: Sing Along Alfred!!!

[sly_kat]

Unless I'm mistaken, Ralph stole a gun. I think the implication is that he is going to try and shoot himself like he tried to do (or did?) in issue 1.

I believe it is the gun from the first issue, since he did indeed donate all his stuff to the museum'

[Damo]

Frickin' Christmas miracles help out Luthor but not Vic? Rassin Frassin...

[superlurker]

Frickin' Christmas miracles help out Luthor but not Vic? Rassin Frassin...

Actually, the Christmas miracle helped that kid who was Luthor's guinea pig. It's just that Luthor took advantage of it and stole the kid's Christmas miracle.

He'll have a nice obituary, though.

[Don]

What? No comments about Charlie's delirious comment that the pseudoderm caused blood poisoning?

In other words, the Question is dying...from being the Question?

[Jack Zodiac]

What? No comments about Charlie's delirious comment that the pseudoderm caused blood poisoning?

In other words, the Question is dying...from being the Question?

Yeah, which makes more sense than him dying from lung cancer at the ripe old age of thirty-something with maybe less than a decade of smoking under his belt.

Cold issue. Luthor's one mean bastard. Great scene. And the Black Marvel Family moment was great, but I just can't enjoy it knowing that, somewhere down the line, they're gonna' ruin all of those members in some way. Osiris and Sobek have so much potential, Isis is an incredible female character, and Adam's completely turned around, but by the end of this book, I know that family's gonna' be ruined. Which is a kick in the face for people who were hoping we'd have at least one worthwhile Marvel Family.

[shanejayell]

What? No comments about Charlie's delirious comment that the pseudoderm caused blood poisoning?

In other words, the Question is dying...from being the Question?

I THINK (long time Question fans, help!) this is a older reference to Pseudorerm, from the earlier Question series. Apparently, the reason why Tok never MARKETED the stuff was because of this flaw, that if applied to open wounds it could cause blood poisoning.

[Sean Whitmore]

Wait...THIS was the big reveal of why Gordon rejoined the Gotham PD? He just came back one day?

I suppose that leaves the actual reason up to the Bat-writers to reveal one day. But the first OYL Batman story seemed to indicate that something happened during 52 that all but forced him back.


Yeah, which makes more sense than him dying from lung cancer at the ripe old age of thirty-something with maybe less than a decade of smoking under his belt.

Why? Anyone can get cancer at any age. People who never smoked a day in their lives occasionally get lung cancer.


SEAN

[Damo]

Why? Anyone can get cancer at any age. People who never smoked a day in their lives occasionally get lung cancer.


SEAN

Sad but true. Sometimes people at the ripe young age of 30-something get cancer from that little bit of smoking years ago.

And then George Burns lives to be 100 while puffing cigars daily.

[shanejayell]

And then George Burns lives to be 100 while puffing cigars daily.

Then again, GB was God and the DEvil, so it's understandable.

[Jack Zodiac]

Why? Anyone can get cancer at any age. People who never smoked a day in their lives occasionally get lung cancer.

Okay, anything makes more sense than him getting lung cancer from the pack of smokes he smoked once, fifteen years ago. :p Be it pollution, eating lead paint chips, huffin' chemicals, or spreading some wildly experimental fake skin all over his face.

[Damo]

He smoked more than one pack. He apparently smoked a bit, gave it up, but had relapses.

[Jack Zodiac]

:p :p :p :p

How many of those belong in a post to make sure people get that it's in jest?

(Four, apparently, since I wasn't allowed to post twelve.)

[Sean Whitmore]

:p :p :p :p

How many of those belong in a post to make sure people get that it's in jest?

(Four, apparently, since I wasn't allowed to post twelve.)

I usually just go with:

JOKING

I just wish I could get it to flash.


SEAN

[Damo]

:p :p :p

How many of those belong in a post to make sure people get that it's in jest?


The trouble with :p is that it can also look like you're mocking how stupid the writers are. That's what I thought you were doing.

[Jack Zodiac]

The trouble with :p is that it can also look like you're mocking how stupid the writers are. That's what I thought you were doing.

I thought that's what this little number was for? :rolleyes:

(See, now it looks like I'm eye-rolling you, though.)

[Sean Whitmore]

Emoticon addiction is a sad thing. It's ruined so many lives. :(


SEAN

[IamtheRock3]

poor Question, talking like did in his last mini series

[bird]

i was a bit peeved by the 1 panel of the animal man, lobo, (guess who my fav characters are ;) )etc storyline. i expected to turn the page and go back into that story. also montoya's comment about after drinking her problems are still there. might as well have another drink i say :D

i do like the freudian love nightwing has for batwoman. a female version of his mentor, there's a crapload of stuff writers could do with that! maybe people more read in the nightwing/batman books could punch holes in my theory but it makes me smile.

what's happening on mad scientist island for the holidays?? next issue hopefully. (gotta wait til thur, fraggin holidays)

overall i dug this issue, but this series has me by the nostrils, so i'm not an objective observer. definetly a wed night read.

[IPW]

Cold issue. Luthor's one mean bastard. Great scene. And the Black Marvel Family moment was great, but I just can't enjoy it knowing that, somewhere down the line, they're gonna' ruin all of those members in some way. Osiris and Sobek have so much potential, Isis is an incredible female character, and Adam's completely turned around, but by the end of this book, I know that family's gonna' be ruined. Which is a kick in the face for people who were hoping we'd have at least one worthwhile Marvel Family.

Hopefully they will prove popular enough to survive 52. I don't know, but has Black Adam appear OYL? If not, his family could have surivived.

[Shellhead]

Hey Nightwing? The lady just wants to be friends. Trust me, she's not into you.

Sadly, she will never love Dick.

[Trademark]

Hopefully they will prove popular enough to survive 52. I don't know, but has Black Adam appear OYL? If not, his family could have surivived.

I believe Black Adam appeared in November's SUPERMAN #657 in one the future sequences.

[Sean Walsh]

Wait...THIS was the big reveal of why Gordon rejoined the Gotham PD? He just came back one day?

I suppose that leaves the actual reason up to the Bat-writers to reveal one day. But the first OYL Batman story seemed to indicate that something happened during 52 that all but forced him back.

Yeah, I was a bit miffed about that too.

But March's BATMAN solicit mentions something about a conspiracy in the Gotham PD. Not sure if it's a bit of a backstep (since Batman is involved and he was MIA during 52) or what.....

[Ender]

And then George Burns lives to be 100 while puffing cigars daily.

Truely smoking a cigar means no inhilation so that may be how he dodged that bullet all that time.

[NormanB]

Sadly, she will never love Dick.


LAFFO.

:D

[Ian J.N.]

What? No comments about Charlie's delirious comment that the pseudoderm caused blood poisoning?
For curiosity's sake, could someone confirm if that line is also from his old series?

[UniqueFrequency]

i quite liked this issue. my favourite bits were the lex scene and the part where you saw people getting presents and all that. i especially liked the firestorm/cyborg scene.

[Sean Walsh]

Man, just when you think Lex is evil enough...........he tosses a wrench into your thinking and you just love to hate him even more. :p

[Jack Zodiac]

i do like the freudian love nightwing has for batwoman. a female version of his mentor, there's a crapload of stuff writers could do with that! maybe people more read in the nightwing/batman books could punch holes in my theory but it makes me smile.

Eh, I think it's more like a running gag about Dick's attraction to buxom redheads, or redheads in tight leather. Both Babs and Kory are redheaded ex-lovers.

[bird]

Originally posted by Jack Zodiac:
Eh, I think it's more like a running gag about Dick's attraction to buxom redheads, or redheads in tight leather. Both Babs and Kory are redheaded ex-lovers.


my first hole has been punched. if i get 10 i get a free sandwich or oil change or something. i can't cheat because they use a special bat symbol hole punch.

i'd do him for a batarang. it's just too hard to find a red wig, falsies, and a faux leather body suit :(

[Tequilamokinbrd]

Wait...THIS was the big reveal of why Gordon rejoined the Gotham PD? He just came back one day?



Glad it wasn't just me that saw that panel and went WHAT WHAT WHAAAAT????? like I was that lady from South Park.



I was really really looking forward to seeing exactly what happened in the GCPD that Bullock uncovered, and even though we probably WILL get that story, now we have no idea when. One shot in one of the monthly Bat-books? 12 part Storyline? Multibook crossover(shudder)? Who the heck knows. And what sucks about it is that if I'm not reading the Bat books at the time(which is very possible because they've really been hit and miss for years now) I'm not going to have any idea until way way after it's out.



I figured that it was going to have something to do with Intergang coming to town, maybe Atkins was an intergang plant waiting for the right time to set things up, then Batman leaves town and he sees his moment.

I was hoping that Batwoman, Montoya, and The Question would eventually team up with Bullock to figure everything out, maybe Nightwing could get involved too, and maybe, just maybe, they'd all get in over their heads fighting weird wolfman creatures and such, only to have Vic and Montoya call in a favor from Black Adam at what would seem to be the final hour......



IMHO, AWESOME potental storyline that I will never see because someone(or someones?) at DC wants to kill Vic Sage......







I'm liking 52, but that one panel took a lot of my feeling of suspense away for
what's going to happen next because I know what ISN'T going happen. Lame.

[BoosterBronze]

IMHO, AWESOME potental storyline that I will never see because someone(or someones?) at DC wants to kill Vic Sage......




I get frustrated becasue it seems that everytime an underused character finally gets written well it's because they're being set up to die.

[DoctorDoom]

Correction: Sing Along Alfred!!!
The best type of Alfred.

[dupersuper]

I get frustrated becasue it seems that everytime an underused character finally gets written well it's because they're being set up to die.

LOL It's funny because it's true. When hoping a favourite obscure charactor gets a shot at the spotlight, keep in mind; no news is good news...

[The Xenos]

Count me in as someone pissed as what appears to be The Question's / Vic Sage's fate next issue.

I thought I heard Rucka was going to write a series with him. I was SO looking forward to that.

One of my favorite parts of 52, of the DCU right now, someone I wanted to see much more of, and it looks like DC is killing him off. Bah. Humbug.

[BoosterBronze]

just re-read it. A major unanswered question.

Why does Green Lantern wear an eyepatch underneath his mask? I know he only has one eye, but why not wear a mask with only one eye hole? Why would he put on an eyepatch, then spirit-gum his mask over it?

[ChthonicSpirit]

Sad but true. Sometimes people at the ripe young age of 30-something get cancer from that little bit of smoking years ago.

They do, but the odds are against it, especially for someone as uber-fit as Vic. Lung cancer before 45 is rare, and that's for people who've smoked all their lives.

[LtMarvel]

So who were all the single Christmas panels of? I think I recognized all but the adult male with the mutliple kids...

[Optimus]

And the Black Marvel Family moment was great, but I just can't enjoy it knowing that, somewhere down the line, they're gonna' ruin all of those members in some way. Osiris and Sobek have so much potential, Isis is an incredible female character, and Adam's completely turned around, but by the end of this book, I know that family's gonna' be ruined. Which is a kick in the face for people who were hoping we'd have at least one worthwhile Marvel Family.


I know what you mean. That storyline is my favorite part of 52 but you can tell it's being built up to be torn down. Shame. I like Isis.

[Don]

So who were all the single Christmas panels of? I think I recognized all but the adult male with the mutliple kids...

I think it was Hal Jordan (based on a glowing ring), but I haven't been following GL and don't know what all the kids were about.

The one I didn't get was the factory.

BoosterBronze, it was explained in one of the earlier issues, when they brought a group of heroes back and all of them were injured. GL was missing an eye, somebody had a piece of Red Tornado fused into them, Hawk Girl was giant-sized, etc. But you're also correct in that we've never seen an explanation as to why he wears his mask over the eyepatch. Guess some artist at DC thought it looked cool.

[Apathy Boy]

I can't believe no one's mentioned this yet, but...

SUICIDE SQUAD, BABY!!!!

I am very excited. That was a very cool intro to this version of the Squad, and I am liking this group very much. Vertigo is one of my favourite members of the team, and having the new Boomerang is a nice touch. I always thought Electrocutioner was a natural for the team, and Plastique is sorely underused (though I question why Waller would recruit her again after what happened last time). The new Persuader would be great as cannon fodder.

The only way this line-up would be better would be if the Bulleteer were on it, and Morrison confused the hell out of everyone by bitching about it afterwards.

I think it was Hal Jordan (based on a glowing ring), but I haven't been following GL and don't know what all the kids were about.

The one I didn't get was the factory.The kids are Hal's nephews. Hal's brother and family recently moved to Coast City.

[The Xenos]

just re-read it. A major unanswered question.

Why does Green Lantern wear an eyepatch underneath his mask? I know he only has one eye, but why not wear a mask with only one eye hole? Why would he put on an eyepatch, then spirit-gum his mask over it?

Clearly it's because he's a pirate. And yar har, fiddle di dee, being a pirate is alright to be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0yI2MQf8Tk&mode=related&search).

[Sean Walsh]

I can't believe no one's mentioned this yet, but...

SUICIDE SQUAD, BABY!!!!

I am very excited. That was a very cool intro to this version of the Squad, and I am liking this group very much. Vertigo is one of my favourite members of the team, and having the new Boomerang is a nice touch. I always thought Electrocutioner was a natural for the team, and Plastique is sorely underused (though I question why Waller would recruit her again after what happened last time). The new Persuader would be great as cannon fodder.

Can't say I was really thrilled. I guess I've been spoiled by all these obscure appearances (in 52 and elsewhere) that I'd have been happier if it was a bunch of folks we haven't seen associated with the Squad already (Vertigo), or people we haven't seen used OYL (Electrocutioner, Plastique, Vertigo again).

The new Persuader was an interesting sight to see. And yeah, seeing Boomerang Jr. there makes me giggle even more now.

[Jack]

just re-read it. A major unanswered question.

Why does Green Lantern wear an eyepatch underneath his mask? I know he only has one eye, but why not wear a mask with only one eye hole? Why would he put on an eyepatch, then spirit-gum his mask over it?
Because he materialises his mask with the power of his ring, he doesn't put it on.