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Preus
12-15-2006, 06:02 PM
I can't say right now since I've yet to see Superman Returns.

MaxofSteel
12-15-2006, 06:13 PM
Having seen SR, its still hard for me to say. I'm more used to Welling (as a fan of Smallville), but at the same time, Routh was pretty convincing as Big Blue as well.

If Welling were more built up (muscle wise), I'd say he was more qualified.

Preus
12-15-2006, 06:21 PM
You do know that this poll is for who portrays Clark Kent better, right?

Anyway, Welling's starting to bulk up again. In the last new episode they showed last week, he looked like he had added more muscle on. But he does need to bulk up just a tad bit more.

skally19
12-15-2006, 06:28 PM
routh is awesome. could be better, but by the next one he'll be more comfortable i'd bet. plus his voice is SOOO supes/clark

David Atkins
12-15-2006, 06:29 PM
The world must be coming to and end soon, as I've recently sat through and actually enjoyed an episode or two of Smallville. Heh. Both actors do a fine job of portraying Superman/Clark in very different settings.

Buried Alien
12-15-2006, 06:31 PM
Routh's Clark is better than his Superman, which is the complete opposite of how it worked for Christopher Reeve.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Preus
12-15-2006, 06:33 PM
Yeah, I kind of didn't like Reeve's Clark either, way too nerdy.

MaxofSteel
12-15-2006, 06:42 PM
You do know that this poll is for who portrays Clark Kent better, right?

Anyway, Welling's starting to bulk up again. In the last new episode they showed last week, he looked like he had added more muscle on. But he does need to bulk up just a tad bit more.

Oops. Missed that part.:o

In that case, I prefer Routh's Clark. Welling's Clark is still develpoing his moral obligations at this point and is less sure where his goals lie.

Routh's Clark has been there, done that, so we can just sit back and enjoy the character for who he is.

Preus
12-15-2006, 06:44 PM
I just want to know, how was Stephen Bender as young Clark?

MaxofSteel
12-15-2006, 06:48 PM
I just want to know, how was Stephen Bender as young Clark?

In SR? His role in the movie wasn't all that big. He didn't even speak. But he looked convincing enough to be a young Clark (although I think his eyes were brown instead of blue.. but I have to check again to be sure)

Preus
12-15-2006, 06:51 PM
Oh, I didn't know that. I thought that they would've at least given him a few lines. Can you give me a picture of young Clark super jumping?

Capt Hunter
12-15-2006, 06:58 PM
In recent eps of Smallville.. Tom Welling has been portraying a stronger arch-type. He is losing the Clark Kent attitude and become what he is destined to be.... A Symbol of Peace... A Symbol of Hope... and a Symbol of Justice... Smallville has me all fired up... With the second half of the season starting next month, the best is yet to come...

To answer the question, I think Tom Welling portraits a better Clark Kent... What is seen in the movies is a hammed up version... Clark isn't a dork in the comics anymore....

The Movies have always been to be a Silver Age Version and Smallville fits more into the Modern Age...

Preus
12-15-2006, 07:02 PM
Yeah, what you said is true, on Smallville he's starting to embrace his destiny. I would love to see the last season of the show focus on his first year as Superman.

stealthwise
12-16-2006, 01:01 AM
Smallville is bloody terrible. Most of that has to do with the writing being crap, but Welling doesn't help. He's the exact OPPOSITE of what I'd like to see from my Superman, as he's whiny, skinny, and looks too much like a "Tiger Beat" model than the man of steel.

I'm just happy that we didn't get Ashton Kutcher as Superman though.

Jason1Kent
12-16-2006, 01:10 AM
oh my god what a hard question!!!!!!!
hmm Tom has the Conner Kent factor going so he gets me more. No seriously, I think Tom is fantastic as Clark and Brandon is a great Supes and so they both win I suppose. The best Lois? thats obvious.................

Budman
12-16-2006, 05:52 AM
I agree with everything Capt. Hunter said.

Welling does a great job of playing Clark as a real character. In the movies, the grown-up Clark Kent is merely a guise for Superman. As the classic TV show used to say, "Superman....disguised as Clark Kent, fights a neverending battle for Truth, Justice, and The American Way."

marshal99
12-16-2006, 07:02 AM
Smallville is bloody terrible. Most of that has to do with the writing being crap, but Welling doesn't help. He's the exact OPPOSITE of what I'd like to see from my Superman, as he's whiny, skinny, and looks too much like a "Tiger Beat" model than the man of steel.


Clark in smallville is a teenager , still experiencing his powers , what did you expect ?!?

How you consider him skinny though , i don't know.
http://img250.echo.cx/img250/1286/tomwelling376au9yu.jpg

Preus
12-16-2006, 07:36 AM
Smallville is bloody terrible. Most of that has to do with the writing being crap, but Welling doesn't help. He's the exact OPPOSITE of what I'd like to see from my Superman, as he's whiny, skinny, and looks too much like a "Tiger Beat" model than the man of steel.

I'm just happy that we didn't get Ashton Kutcher as Superman though.


You must be blind because Tom Welling is no where near skinny.

sgt pepper
12-16-2006, 08:22 AM
Welling is a model, not an actor. Pouting and close up shots on puppy dog eyes do not count as acting.

karasu
12-16-2006, 09:20 AM
They're both a good size for Superboy, neither has the right build for Superman.

Preus
12-16-2006, 09:26 AM
Welling is a model, not an actor. Pouting and close up shots on puppy dog eyes do not count as acting.


Lol, Welling may have been a model but he's doing a great job as Clark Kent.

Jason1Kent
12-17-2006, 01:21 AM
SWEET LIZZY Mc GUIRE! why is there always these people who go around whining"he's too thin, he's amodel, he's really really toooo good loooking!" get over yourselves and be abit more relaxed. Tom isn't the greatest actor in the world but yet people flock to watch the show that is now 100 and more episodes old. I watched from the beginning and have found his progression cool. Tom has grown into the character and so he really has made "young Clark Kent" a solid character as appose early DC reditions of a kid who basically was one dimensional, thank god for SB! Conner! Superman Birthright's Clark has striking resemblence to Tom. It is also a fanatstic read and any new Supes fan should have it in their collection!
Brandon makes a brilliant follow choice from Christopher. Thats what the movie was going for and I think it was well pulled off. Lois was a bit too weak and lacked the Kidder strength, a tomboy who would readily kick ur ass as appose to make sure they are standing in correct lighthing for their close up. Hopefully she pardon the phrase but "grows a pair" in the next film.

But would love to see Tom dawn the cape, I know, I know, it will never happen as we are told but it would be something!

chickrockguitar
12-17-2006, 02:43 AM
"Tom Welling" is my Vote!
He's cool as young Clark Kent.

Can we really compare the two? I mean, Tom is acting as Clark as a TEEN, Routh is acting as Clark as an ADULT. There is a difference.

What about Dean Cain? I always liked his portrayal as Clark and Superman. Also out of all the "Lois's" there've been, I very much preferred Terri Hatcher's portrayal. All the others seem a bit... Blah.

SKETCHSANCHEZ
12-17-2006, 03:01 AM
The thing that bugged me about Dean Cain, and I admit this is a nitpick (and prolly isnt his fault), but they always seemed to get it "backwards"

What I mean is that on his show, Superman had the gelled, slick backed hair, while Clark had the messy "curly" hair.

And, to me, it's always been the other way around.

chickrockguitar
12-17-2006, 03:50 AM
The thing that bugged me about Dean Cain, and I admit this is a nitpick (and prolly isnt his fault), but they always seemed to get it "backwards"

What I mean is that on his show, Superman had the gelled, slick backed hair, while Clark had the messy "curly" hair.

And, to me, it's always been the other way around.Yeah, I think they intended it to be like that... To make it different.

Preus
12-17-2006, 10:55 AM
I've never seen any episodes of Lois & Clark so I can't say anything about Dean Cain's Clark & Superman.

666MasterOfPuppets
12-20-2006, 05:23 AM
Brandon Routh for me. Tom is good, but for a young Clark Kent, which is exactly what he's doing now.

Person Man
12-20-2006, 07:59 AM
Apples and oranges. I'd like to see Tom try to play the "nerdy" Kent before I even judge, because they're basically different characters.

Preus
12-22-2006, 02:41 PM
The only way we'll see Tom as a "nerdy" Clark Kent is if they make a movie about him being Superman after Smallville goes off the air.

King Krypton
12-23-2006, 06:11 PM
They're both a good size for Superboy, neither has the right build for Superman.

None of the actors who've played Superman have "the right build." Only Mike O'Hearn in the Sandy Collora fan-films has "the right build," and it can be argued that he's too bulky to pass off as a geeky, soft-spoken guy who's supposed to blend into the background. All of the major Superman actors have been much leaner and sleeker than the comic book visuals. Based on this argument, you might as well say that none of the actors have been appropriate.

And since Welling won't play Superman by his own choice, the point is moot.

Preus
12-24-2006, 06:38 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself, thank you King Krypton. I guess people just want the men who play Superman to be ridiculously big. Judging by the fact that they shouldn't be meat heads, the men who have dawned the cape and costume have had the right build seeing as they haven't been ridiculously big.

chriskenny
12-24-2006, 10:17 AM
None of the actors who've played Superman have "the right build." Only Mike O'Hearn in the Sandy Collora fan-films has "the right build," and it can be argued that he's too bulky to pass off as a geeky, soft-spoken guy who's supposed to blend into the background. All of the major Superman actors have been much leaner and sleeker than the comic book visuals. Based on this argument, you might as well say that none of the actors have been appropriate.

And since Welling won't play Superman by his own choice, the point is moot.

I agree. His powers come from the sun, not his muscles. The whole HUGELY built Superman is fairly new. The Curt Swan or even the Dan Jurgens version isn't that much bigger than Brandon Routh or Tom Welling or even Dean Cain (probably the most built of them all). I'm not interested in a big, meat-headed Superman in the style of Ed McGuiness.

Preus
12-24-2006, 10:30 AM
Exactly, Superman should have muscles but he definitely doesn't need to have a bodybuilder look. Tom Welling & Brandon Routh have the muscle look downpact but Welling does need just a bit more bulk, especially if they plan on letting him wear the suit.

karasu
12-24-2006, 03:23 PM
None of the actors who've played Superman have "the right build." Only Mike O'Hearn in the Sandy Collora fan-films has "the right build," and it can be argued that he's too bulky to pass off as a geeky, soft-spoken guy who's supposed to blend into the background. All of the major Superman actors have been much leaner and sleeker than the comic book visuals. Based on this argument, you might as well say that none of the actors have been appropriate.




George Reeves or Christopher Reeve may not have been incredibly muscular but they both looked like powerful men . Somethin I can't say about Routh or Welling. Anyway, that was decades ago. The movies are full of Superheros and personal trainers now.

I agree. His powers come from the sun, not his muscles. The whole HUGELY built Superman is fairly new. The Curt Swan or even the Dan Jurgens version isn't that much bigger than Brandon Routh or Tom Welling or even Dean Cain (probably the most built of them all). I'm not interested in a big, meat-headed Superman in the style of Ed McGuiness.


Christopher Reeve gained a lot of weight for his role, not because Superman's power is derived from his muscles, but because Superman is supposed to look powerful. To suggest that his size has anything to do with his intellect is ridiculous. I don't think a live action Supes should look like a competition era Arnold Schwarzenegger or anything, but in these times I don't believe that a powerful physique is too much to ask for. If Ryan Reynolds (http://img158.exs.cx/img158/9384/ryan110tn.jpg) can gain 25lbs for an abomination like Blade: Trinity, Brad Pitt (http://www.sixpacknow.com/brad_pitt_photos.html) can gain mass for an abomination like Troy, and Christian Bale can gain 100 pounds for Batman Begins, then anyone should be willing to hit the gym for Superman. No, his powers don't come from his muscles, but he's a big guy. Denying it is pointless. His powers don't come from his red underwear either, but how many people would freak out if someone changed them.

I've got nothing against Welling, but Superman has been described as big, or incredibly muscular since forever, and this physique isn't really impressive.:

http://www.squarehippies.com/welling.shtml

Black Atom
12-24-2006, 03:35 PM
George Reeves or Christopher Reeve may not have been incredibly muscular but they both looked like powerful men . Somethin I can't say about Routh or Welling. Anyway, that was decades ago. The movies are full of Superheros and personal trainers now.


I'd bet both Routh and Welling are bigger than Christopher Reeve was. The problem is not their build, per se, but the way they portray the character. Welling's playing a teenage Clark, with less confidence and experience so he sould be accordingly less imposing. Also, Routh's Superman was a wimp from minute one, looking more like the sacrifical lamb than the Man of Steel. This seems to be the direction Singer wanted to take the character, though, so I don't know if it's fair to blame Routh.

karasu
12-24-2006, 03:49 PM
I'd bet both Routh and Welling are bigger than Christopher Reeve was. The problem is not their build, per se, but the way they portray the character. Welling's playing a teenage Clark, with less confidence and experience so he sould be accordingly less imposing. Also, Routh's Superman was a wimp from minute one, looking more like the sacrifical lamb than the Man of Steel. This seems to be the direction Singer wanted to take the character, though, so I don't know if it's fair to blame Routh.


Reeve was 220 in the first Superman, but he looked powerful when necessary due to his broad shoulders. He was heavier for Superman III.

chriskenny
12-24-2006, 06:33 PM
Tom Welling and Brandon Routh have larger physiques than Reeve. But Reeve had more gravitas.

I think the debate is silly because it is the illusion of acting. The fact remains that all incarnations are physically appropriate Supermen. However, the prescense of some is stronger than others.

But to complain that a guy like Welling is too small when he is obviously bigger than the best Superman is weird to me. I think the bottom line is one exudes the spirit of the character better than the other. But even having said that, the Clark of Smallville SHOULD NOT have that prescense.

As for Brandon Routh, I was not a big fan of the film and I thought he was very underwhelming in his delivery. Also, the script was much weaker than the original.

Preus
12-24-2006, 06:41 PM
Welling is pretty big, to say he isn't is stupid. My friend thought that Routh was bigger than Welling but after seeing some pictures, it is clear that Welling is bigger. Maybe they should switch roles? :p

marshal99
12-24-2006, 07:16 PM
Christopher Reeves is 6 ft 4"
Brandon Routh is 6 ft 3"
Tom Wellings is 6 ft 3"
Dean Cain is 6 ft

karasu
12-24-2006, 07:35 PM
What the? :confused: Tom Welling is not bigger than Chris Kent. And Routh had a pencil neck and a muscle suit. He really looked like Superboy to me. Christopher Reeve wore nothing but spandex.

http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/images/superman3/eyeplant.jpg

Neither of them would fill the suit out like that without some training.

http://supermanjaviolivares.iespana.es/SRGotMilk.jpg

Routh looks about 195(outside of the suit), and the suit has muscle padding on as well.


I never expected this to become a debate lol

Preus
12-24-2006, 08:08 PM
The suit doesn't have muscle padding, Routh worked out for the role of Superman. Also, Routh is 6'2.5, not 6'3.

karasu
12-24-2006, 08:55 PM
The suit does have padding. There have been interviews where the special effects team have talked all about it. Don't get me wrong, Routh is in good shape, and has a good muscle definition. The suit just added a little mass.

Preus
12-24-2006, 08:59 PM
Yeah, but you're making like all Routh doesn't have any muscle at all.

Kara Zor El
12-29-2006, 03:22 PM
There so different it's all about your taste of what you want Clark to be like.
SR is a sequel to Superman The movie. So Routh has to emulate Reeve's version of Clark. He does that very well. He has a slight look of him and does a fantastic impression. That's the Clark I care about in live action. Welling is just nothing to me. He could be playing any number of good looking heroes in any number of stories. He's playing it the way he has been asked to and that's all fine.
The Byrne years changed Clark from a bumbling geek into Mr Cool. And it worked and was necessary because Superman comics had been going for decades. So change in comic books is a must or they will die. He will change back one day and so on and so forth. The movies are going for the most well known version, and a version that works on screen. For Clark to work as a secret identity when Superman doesn't mask himself surely has to be the case of Clark doing what he does in the Movies and that's act so small and uncomfortable that no one sees that he looks just like Supes.
Clark doesn't wear a mask on his face, he wears one on his persona. And Reeve showed us how that may work and routh has took that on very well. Welling's versing would be sussed quickly if he ever put on the cape.

Harding Prime
12-29-2006, 03:44 PM
Brandon Routh did a great job bringing Christopher Reeves back to life...But the Welling is the MAN!

Harding Prime
12-29-2006, 03:46 PM
Exactly, Superman should have muscles but he definitely doesn't need to have a bodybuilder look. Tom Welling & Brandon Routh have the muscle look downpact but Welling does need just a bit more bulk, especially if they plan on letting him wear the suit.

Your all crazy, Welling is fuckin' Cut! (no homo) He is in much better stature then Routh, he just never wears anything skin tight.

666MasterOfPuppets
12-29-2006, 03:47 PM
George Reeves or Christopher Reeve may not have been incredibly muscular but they both looked like powerful men . Somethin I can't say about Routh or Welling. Anyway, that was decades ago. The movies are full of Superheros and personal trainers now.


Christopher Reeve gained a lot of weight for his role, not because Superman's power is derived from his muscles, but because Superman is supposed to look powerful. To suggest that his size has anything to do with his intellect is ridiculous. I don't think a live action Supes should look like a competition era Arnold Schwarzenegger or anything, but in these times I don't believe that a powerful physique is too much to ask for. If Ryan Reynolds (http://img158.exs.cx/img158/9384/ryan110tn.jpg) can gain 25lbs for an abomination like Blade: Trinity, Brad Pitt (http://www.sixpacknow.com/brad_pitt_photos.html) can gain mass for an abomination like Troy, and Christian Bale can gain 100 pounds for Batman Begins, then anyone should be willing to hit the gym for Superman. No, his powers don't come from his muscles, but he's a big guy. Denying it is pointless. His powers don't come from his red underwear either, but how many people would freak out if someone changed them.

I've got nothing against Welling, but Superman has been described as big, or incredibly muscular since forever, and this physique isn't really impressive.:

http://www.squarehippies.com/welling.shtml

God AND Satan The Unholy One damn Christian Bale for all of eternity in the fiery pits of Hell. He obviously was on 'roids. And I'd like to know what cycle did he use. Damn him, DAMN HIM!

*ahem* Back on topic...

I agree. Superman is about majesty and power, hence the need for him to look powerful, imposing. Anyone who portrays Superman must comply with this requirements.

Saying that Welling is bigger than Routh or Reeve himself is preposterous (no offense intended). Besides, to this day I still can understand why some people think he'd be a good Superman. Granted, he's a good Clark Kent (even with the whole DAMN whining about Lana, which is a pain in the ass), but a YOUNG, INEXPERIENCED Clark Kent nonetheless.

Routh is a much, much better Superman.

karasu
12-29-2006, 04:53 PM
People confuse muscle definition with size. Welling is forbidden from gaining weight by his contract, so it's really ridiculous to say he's bigger than Routh. :confused:

Preus
12-29-2006, 06:00 PM
Your all crazy, Welling is fuckin' Cut! (no homo) He is in much better stature then Routh, he just never wears anything skin tight.


You're crazy, I just said that Welling has some pretty big arms so you just repeated what I said. Also, Routh is in pretty good shape as well, I'll post the picture later, it's just the suit that makes him look small.

The New Fate
12-29-2006, 06:03 PM
TOM WELLING HANDS DOWN.
NUFF SAID!

Preus
12-29-2006, 06:03 PM
People confuse muscle definition with size. Welling is forbidden from gaining weight by his contract, so it's really ridiculous to say he's bigger than Routh. :confused:


That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, a contract can't forbid you from gaining weight. People make up the stupidest things now adays.....

Eliseu Gouveia
12-29-2006, 06:06 PM
I think Routh has a greater range than Welling.

Not sure what % of his low key performance was actually Singerīs directing but he did manage to pull off a decent Big Blue.

As much as I loathed the film, the guyīs one of its very few saving graces.

Eliseu Gouveia
12-29-2006, 06:08 PM
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, a contract can't forbid you from gaining weight. People make up the stupidest things now adays.....


I believe they can.

Contracts can forbid you from gaining weight, getting pregnant, posing nude or whatever the producers deem fit.

Preus
12-29-2006, 06:10 PM
I'd have to say that Routh has portrayed the best Superman I've seen thus far. I know most of you will think I'm crazy for putting his Superman past Reeves but hey, it's my opinion.

Preus
12-29-2006, 07:04 PM
I found the picture:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/absoluteimp/brandon/brandonrouth16110603.jpg

karasu
12-29-2006, 07:06 PM
I thought Routh was too much like Reeves. The entire film was too much like Superman78.

Preus
12-29-2006, 07:22 PM
Not to me, I found Routh's Superman to be better than Reeve's. I also didn't find them too much alike, Routh's seemed to add more depth. I loved this line which Routh delivered perfectly:

Superman:"You wrote that the world doesn't need a savior....but everyday I hear people crying for one."

marshal99
12-29-2006, 07:36 PM
I thought Routh was too much like Reeves. The entire film was too much like Superman78.

It is no concidence since they are looking for someone who resembles a bit of Reeves and carries that same air.

Preus
12-30-2006, 08:42 AM
In my opinion, if you really look at Reeves & then look at Routh, they don't look too much alike. At least that's what I think.

marshal99
12-30-2006, 09:20 AM
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3229/rr5gh.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/SingerFaith/reeverouth.jpg

Routh had to train and bulk up for the role. Wellings doesn't need to since he's playing a teenager.

Preus
12-30-2006, 09:29 AM
Actually, Welling should be pretty musclebound now seeing as he's almost Superman.

Kara Zor El
12-30-2006, 09:57 AM
In my opinion, if you really look at Reeves & then look at Routh, they don't look too much alike. At least that's what I think.

They don't in still pictures. I think it's something more to do with the smile and cheek dimples and little things that come out in movement.
And there ain't nothing wrong in you preferring Routh over Reeve. It would be crazy if no one preferred him.
Reeve has something very special for me. I think his Superman is very deep, you can feel the pain from him in both movies but more so 2. Especially in the Donner cut.

karasu
12-30-2006, 02:55 PM
It is no concidence since they are looking for someone who resembles a bit of Reeves and carries that same air.


Yeah, I remember reading that he wanted to remind people of Reeves, but at the same time bring something new to the table.

Preus
12-30-2006, 05:34 PM
I just hope that Routh will get more lines in the second movie.

MaxofSteel
12-30-2006, 06:55 PM
I just hope that Routh will get more lines in the second movie.

Supes should make some type of public spech by the movie's end, just a little something to adress the Metropolitans for once in his movie career.

It would have to be well worded and inspirational though. Nothing too corny.:p

dupersuper
12-30-2006, 07:30 PM
I just like that Welling is older. (: Also, for the love of Mike people;
Christopher REEVE
George REEVES

The New Fate
12-30-2006, 09:55 PM
I can't say right now since I've yet to see Superman Returns.

Do yourself a favor and avoid this movie

Preus
12-31-2006, 02:08 AM
1. I've already seen the movie & I love it.

2. Stop spamming.

Harding Prime
01-02-2007, 08:22 AM
I just like that Welling is older. (: Also, for the love of Mike people;
Christopher REEVE
George REEVES

Welling is better then both in my book. He has done more with the character...and better. Smallville is the best incarnation of the Mytho to hit Film!

Harding Prime
01-02-2007, 08:33 AM
P.S. I know he gets a lot of hate on these kinda boards, even though he has written some of everyones favorite stories, but thank you Jeph Loeb! You bring a lot of knowledge to Smallville to help make it as good as it is. With the great casting done with the show, I can only see it getting better with every idea they can bring. Welling Rules!

VietN
01-02-2007, 09:14 AM
Smallville is a dumb show, though I admit it looks a little better from the bits and pieces I've seen.

Anway Smallville's Clark is obviously going through growth and doesn't have a reason to acty differently, while SR is more seasoned and centered.

It's a complicated comparison better fought over by fans lol.

Preus
01-02-2007, 12:43 PM
How is Smallville a dumb show? It's focusing on a young Clark Kent's journey to becoming Superman which is an interesting concept.

Anyway, I'd have to agree that Welling's Clark Kent is the best, even though he's playing a the young version of CK.

Apathy Boy
01-02-2007, 11:06 PM
Routh did a pretty good acting job as both Clark and Superman. But it drives me nuts that he doesn't have a square jaw. He's just not Superman without it.

Welling isn't asked to do much more than look and act mopey, so I have a hard time judging him as Superman. He does have a square jaw, but his features are a little too male-modelish.

Eh, I'll give a mild endorsement to Routh on this one.

Preus
01-03-2007, 08:44 AM
You can't judge Welling as Superman because he's not portraying Superman.

Harding Prime
01-03-2007, 08:48 AM
You can't judge Welling as Superman because he's not portraying Superman.

I'm just saying whatever he is portraying....it's better.

I really did like the movie, but hopefully it willl offer me more of the popcorn stuff I'm looking for. And BTW, the ladies of Smallville are killing any other adaptation, but that is for another thread.

Preus
01-03-2007, 08:54 AM
Yes, they are. Erica Durance is the best Lois Lane EVER. :D

HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT!!! :D

.......

Harding Prime
01-03-2007, 08:59 AM
Yes, they are. Erica Durance is the best Lois Lane EVER. :D

HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT!!! :D

.......

And also, she compliments the Welling well. They have a good dynamic.

Preus
01-03-2007, 09:02 AM
Definitely. Do you think that they'll ever hook up within the series?

marshal99
01-03-2007, 09:19 AM
Yes, they are. Erica Durance is the best Lois Lane EVER. :D

HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT!!! :D

.......

Sorry but in her heyday , Teri Hatcher as Lois was the most downloaded image on the AOL and was the sexiest woman in the world as voted by FHM in 1997. Best Lois would go to her. She alone definitely did carried the show.

http://www.hoppa.ndo.co.uk/loisclark/TeriHatcher.jpg

Harding Prime
01-03-2007, 09:19 AM
Definitely. Do you think that they'll ever hook up within the series?

At the end, yea...but she is definetly better then a hot blonde surfer chick tried to be made brunette city elegant. I think the worst casting of the movie was Kate Bosworth. Their dynamic is...Clark is a douche, and she doesn't even know he is alive, which it was like at the beginning of the comic story, but Routh and Bosworth...I didn't really feel anything. I much prefer the animosity dynamic, love/hate that Durance and Welling share.

Harding Prime
01-03-2007, 09:21 AM
Sorry but in her heyday , Teri Hatcher as Lois was the most downloaded image on the AOL and was the sexiest woman in the world as voted by FHM in 1997. Best Lois would go to her. She alone definitely did carried the show.

http://www.hoppa.ndo.co.uk/loisclark/TeriHatcher.jpg

One problem....the show sucked, and yes she was Hot, but she was it. Smallville got some of the hottest chicks in the biz coming in and out of the show...not to mention the staples of Lana/Chloe/Lois.

marshal99
01-03-2007, 09:24 AM
One problem....the show sucked, and yes she was Hot, but she was it. Smallville got some of the hottest chicks in the biz coming in and out of the show...not to mention the staples of Lana/Chloe/Lois.

Lois and Clark was all right , corny at times and not as bad as some other superhero shows like misfits of science but as i said , it lasted as long as it did because Teri Hatcher carried the show. She is the best Lois.
Smallville probably has the best looking lana though. ;)

Harding Prime
01-03-2007, 09:26 AM
Lois and Clark was all right , corny at times and not as bad as some other superhero shows like misfits of science but as i said , it lasted as long as it did because Teri Hatcher carried the show. She is the best Lois.
Smallville probably has the best looking lana though. ;)

Ummmm.....YEAH!

marshal99
01-03-2007, 09:38 AM
And the funny thing is , Annette O'Toole was Lana Lang back in superman III , now she's become Martha Kent. ;)

Who knows 20 years from now , maybe Kristin Kreuk will be playing Martha Kent in a new superman series. :D

Harding Prime
01-03-2007, 09:42 AM
And the funny thing is , Annette O'Toole was Lana Lang back in superman III , now she's become Martha Kent. ;)

Who knows 20 years from now , maybe Kristin Kreuk will be playing Martha Kent in a new superman series. :D

Yea, Annette brought some different...assests to the character then the Kruek does.;)

Not trying to get off track here...but the connections are there, I just feel that Smallville and Tom are doing a better job getting deeper into the mytho.

Preus
01-03-2007, 01:14 PM
By different assets do you mean bigger boobs? Lol :D

Preus
01-03-2007, 01:16 PM
At the end, yea...but she is definetly better then a hot blonde surfer chick tried to be made brunette city elegant. I think the worst casting of the movie was Kate Bosworth. Their dynamic is...Clark is a douche, and she doesn't even know he is alive, which it was like at the beginning of the comic story, but Routh and Bosworth...I didn't really feel anything. I much prefer the animosity dynamic, love/hate that Durance and Welling share.

I liked Bosworth's Lane, she did a great job of portraying mixed reactions towards Superman. She wasn't supposed to be snazzy & smart mouthed in the film because of the love triangle that was going on. I'm sure that in the next film she'll be more smart mouthed & snazzy.

Btw, Bosworth is hot but she needs to eat something.

Preus
01-03-2007, 01:21 PM
Sorry but in her heyday , Teri Hatcher as Lois was the most downloaded image on the AOL and was the sexiest woman in the world as voted by FHM in 1997. Best Lois would go to her. She alone definitely did carried the show.

http://www.hoppa.ndo.co.uk/loisclark/TeriHatcher.jpg


So, just because her image was downloaded a million times that makes her the best Lois Lane? No. You can't say she's the best Lois because she had her picture downloaded a bunch of times & she was voted the sexiest female alive ten years ago. That has nothing to do with acting skills whatsoever. Plus, Lois & Clark sucked. I haven't even watched the show & I know that.

Preus
01-03-2007, 01:22 PM
Sorry but in her heyday , Teri Hatcher as Lois was the most downloaded image on the AOL and was the sexiest woman in the world as voted by FHM in 1997. Best Lois would go to her. She alone definitely did carried the show.

http://www.hoppa.ndo.co.uk/loisclark/TeriHatcher.jpg


So, just because her image was downloaded a million times that makes her the best Lois Lane? No. You can't say she's the best Lois because she had her picture downloaded a bunch of times & she was voted the sexiest female alive ten years ago. That has nothing to do with acting skills whatsoever. Plus, Lois & Clark sucked. I haven't even watched the show & I know that.

marshal99
01-03-2007, 07:22 PM
So, just because her image was downloaded a million times that makes her the best Lois Lane? No. You can't say she's the best Lois because she had her picture downloaded a bunch of times & she was voted the sexiest female alive ten years ago. That has nothing to do with acting skills whatsoever. Plus, Lois & Clark sucked. I haven't even watched the show & I know that.

YOu sealed it yourself , you haven't watched the show . What would you know ? Just because you are young doesn't mean anything from the 80s-90s sucks. :rolleyes:
Teri Hatcher actually made a good Lois , she was smart and sexy.

shaxper
01-03-2007, 07:36 PM
Teri Hatcher definitely was the best Lois, and not just because of her looks. She was as tough and determined as Margot Kidder, and yet thoroughly vulernable and lovably feminine at the same time. She was a very convincing love interest to Superman and a compelling foil to Clark all at the same time. I've yet to see another Lois that could achieve that kind of balance.

And, incidentally, I agree that Bosworth did absolutely nothing for me in the new film. She was neither bold and gutsy nor particularly lovable. She just sort of took up space on screen. No presence at all. Nothing about her made me understand why Clark/Superman wanted her so badly.

Violet
01-03-2007, 07:41 PM
Brandon Routh.

Preus
01-03-2007, 07:54 PM
YOu sealed it yourself , you haven't watched the show . What would you know ? Just because you are young doesn't mean anything from the 80s-90s sucks. :rolleyes:
Teri Hatcher actually made a good Lois , she was smart and sexy.

I never said everything from the 80s-90s suck, I've watched movies & shows from the 30s-50s. Don't interpret things the wrong way. Also, not everyone has to think Teri Hatcher was the best Lois Lane but you seem to think so.

marshal99
01-03-2007, 09:06 PM
I never said everything from the 80s-90s suck, I've watched movies & shows from the 30s-50s. Don't interpret things the wrong way. Also, not everyone has to think Teri Hatcher was the best Lois Lane but you seem to think so.

Likewise , you seemed to think Erica Durance is the best Lois EVER because she's "hot".
Just saying in my opinion that she's not. Sorry for the patronising tone of my previous post , not my intention but if you are going to say that Erica is the best ever , expect others to disagree (although probably not much in the way of Choice - Margot Kidder , Teri Hatcher , Erica Durance or Kate Bosworth)

Preus
01-04-2007, 05:35 PM
No, yet again you interpreted what I said the wrong way. I never said Erica was the best Lois Lane because she was hot, I simply said she was hot, that's all. Basically, you're trying to read things the way you think they should be but you're really making yourself look stupid. Also, I know other people disagree with me, you need to take your own advice. Lol, I never even said anything like that so I'll take a minute to bask in your wrongness.

Eliseu Gouveia
01-04-2007, 05:46 PM
Personally, I think Hatcher was both hotter than Durance and a better Lois.

The weakest Lois so far is Bosworth, there is not a shred of a hint of an ounce of the ole go-getterīs inner fire.

MaxofSteel
01-04-2007, 05:55 PM
The weakest Lois so far is Bosworth, there is not a shred of a hint of an ounce of the ole go-getterīs inner fire.

I liked Bosworth's performance for the most part, but I also agree with what you're saying.

If I'm not mistaken, Bosworth explained in an interview somewhere how she refused to look at Margot Kidder's portrayal of Lois for her research. This leaves me with some doubt as to how dedicated she actually was in portraying the character.

The thing that bothered me most about SR Lois is how she got tossed around by that goon in front of her son without even putting up a fight. Lois is far too tough to go down like that IMO.

Preus
01-04-2007, 06:12 PM
I liked Bosworth's portrayal, she wasn't really supposed to be smart mouthed because of the situation she was in & all (with Superman). I think that in the sequel she'll be talking smack like there's no tomorrow. So, Bosworth did what she was supposed to & I'm glad that she was chosen for the role.

jeangreydp
01-05-2007, 10:41 AM
I'm kind of surprised that there is any debate here.

Routh has always looked far more scrawny than Welling, and he may look like Reeve, but that doesn't make him Superman.

In Returns, his voice was so passive. When he is in the costume I expect Superman to be the type of guy that starts talking and everyone turns to listen.

I've seen Welling use that tone already on Smallville and he hasn't even put the costume on yet. And still he retains a sense of vunerablitly.

I think Routh was very one dimensional. I didn't care for his portrayal at all.

Harding Prime
01-05-2007, 03:57 PM
I think at the end of the Smallville Series, they should put together a Smallville Big Screen send off, with Welling first dawning the tights, that would make bank and have the World knowing who Tom Welling is and how he is this generations best Superman.

Preus
01-05-2007, 04:45 PM
I'd love to have the absolute last season of Smallville focus on his first year as Superman. Either that or a spinoff movie after the series ends.

marshal99
01-05-2007, 08:02 PM
http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/imgbank/NEWS/tom4superman.jpg

Preus
01-05-2007, 08:19 PM
I'd love to see how Welling would do as Superman since he's been doing a great job as Clark Kent.

Harding Prime
01-06-2007, 08:27 AM
Likewise , you seemed to think Erica Durance is the best Lois EVER because she's "hot".
Just saying in my opinion that she's not. Sorry for the patronising tone of my previous post , not my intention but if you are going to say that Erica is the best ever , expect others to disagree (although probably not much in the way of Choice - Margot Kidder , Teri Hatcher , Erica Durance or Kate Bosworth)

Durance is at least better then Bosworth. I think that Durance's version of the strong independent Lois is better then most recreations in film. In the original Superman movies, they make her out to be some dumb fluzzy to me. Teri Hatcher was one of the best looking women of the 90's, with out a doubt, but the show was ssooooo corny. Smallville is the best small screen adaptation so far and the characterizations are my favorites.

Harding Prime
01-06-2007, 08:30 AM
http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/imgbank/NEWS/tom4superman.jpg

That is not real...right?

karasu
01-06-2007, 09:04 AM
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17716093/?qo=7&q=superman&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5

Tom Welling as Supes

marshal99
01-06-2007, 09:18 AM
That is not real...right?

Obviously not but it's good to dream eh ? ;)

Harding Prime
01-06-2007, 09:21 AM
Obviously not but it's good to dream eh ? ;)


Yea, they just got to do something to end the show like that.

Preus
01-07-2007, 08:45 AM
Like I said, the absolute last season of the show should focus on Clark in his first year as Superman.