Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[KevinTBrown]

But.... but.... but.... if he's deleted all his Myspace pages, he's lost all of his 50 closest friends!!

No more porn girls who want him!!!!

Whatever shall he do now?!?!?!?

:eek:

[Danny Donovan]

I have to admit the qoute of the day goes to a good friend of mine who will remain nameless in my inbox stating:


Did Cap’n Retardi Gras delete his MySpace or did he unfriend me?

HA!

[AIPman1]

Probably means dyslexia or something. But whatever it is, James Earl Jones has a stutter.

I'm dyslexic, with memory problems and I've still managed to print over 200 comics and magazines in my career...excuses are for losers. Oh....yeah....forgot who we were talking about...

[Danny Donovan]

Looks like the Schpooky is gone, too. TLE is still blocked but I looked through the MVCN/PSAT page and found both have been deleted off of friends lists and comments.

No, that one is still available because you know it isn't "Rick" ;) myspace.com/tales_of_the_spooky

I think the MVCN one is alive too. For now. Rick will have to have another place to bitch about all us "haters" somewhere others can read it.

Does the TLE myspace HAVE any friends?

[MacQuarrie]

I think his business plan (if you can call it a plan) is to keep the artist from getting their money at the agreed upon time by holding an NDA over their head. He doesn't pay. If they blow the whistle, he doesn't have to.

And he expects to sell millions once the comics ship, which would allow him to not only go back and pay but actually pay future creative teams when he's supposed to.

But dammit, step one is to swindle a few people short term with money he plans to pay them back eventually and nobody's letting him get away with the first step. If these damned ingrates would shut up, obviously he'd sell so many copies with Diamond that he could afford to pay them.

Trouble is, not only is he violating his agreement but he'd actually need to be a better writer than Alan Moore to hit the numbers he thinks he'll hit.
The sad part is, a lot of people, including many of the people he's stiffed, would have accepted a back-end deal if he had been honest with them from the start. There are a lot of indy comics publishers doing exactly that. Instead of promising stuff he can't deliver, he could have simply told the truth. Why is that so hard?

[Blake Petit]

The good news is, now that he doesn't have 50 Myspace friends, we don't have to take him seriously anymore.

Oh, wait...

[amboy00]

If only marinespace.com was a social networking site, he could find a happy home there. And I'm not talking bout crustacea.

[MacQuarrie]

I just found this on the Tales of the Spooky myspace. It follows a scarrrry story about babysitting.



What handicap would he be talking about (besides lack of ability)? And if he has a handicap that affects he writing ability, why is he trying to become a writer?

Discuss.
Does it matter? The person reading the comic does not take anything into account except what's on the paper.

True story: My friend Kurt (who pop in here semi-occasionally under the handle "Cei-U" is quadraplegic, and he draws by holding a pencil in his teeth. He's got a great "Golden Age" style. Many years ago, when Jim Shooter was still in charge at Marvel, Kurt took his portfolio to the San Diego Comic-con and showed it to Shooter. (He got hired, but that's not the point of the story.)

At one point, while Shooter was reviewing his book, Kurt's dad remarked "pretty good, considering he draws with his mouth, huh?"

Shooter replied, "I don't care if he sticks the pencil up his ass and scoots around on the paper. All that matters is what's on the page."

When Kurt told me this story, he was very pleased about it. He doesn't expect a free pass and wouldn't accept one; he doesn't want anyone to say he's "a good artist, considering...." He'd rather be a good artist period.

My contempt for Rick just grows and grows.

[Paul D. Storrie]

It's a very serious condition called Egotopica. It started as a very rare disease in the 80s, with a subject by the name of John Bryne but became widespread throughout the 90s. telethons are being worked on. ;)

Say what you will about John Byrne (and must I point out the irony of misspelling his name whilst in a discussion of dyslexia?), he gets the work done. Lumping him in with Olney the Lonely (hey, Rich stole my epithet for RO as his item headline!) is pretty insulting.

Geez, do you think I used enough parenthetical statements?

And by the way -- hey there, folks! Haven't had much to say of late, but I've been keeping up with the thread. Glad to see folks are keeping up the pressure.

Every time I see another batch of Olney delusions, it boggles my mind.

DocA -- Very sorry to hear about your having to deal with threatening phone calls on top of everything else. Hope that everything comes together and the authorities are able to nail the coward to the wall.

PDS

[MacQuarrie]

He deleted his MySpace page?

What, again?

[MacQuarrie]

Off-topic, but you kids might have fun with it...

This week's new TONY POLLS questions have been posted.

We're asking you to vote on the next President of the United States from a list of 20 (!) candidates. Not including me.

We're also asking you to weigh in on the Glyph Comics Awards, which recognize the best in comics made by, for and about people of color.

You can cast your votes at:

http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/tony/poll

Tony Isabella

I would have voted for Ron Paul if he were on the list.

[Tegan]

I know. I about died laughing.

...

Second, that he's dumb enough to think I quit Birds of Prey for Scooby Doo. Nice detective work there, debtmonkey!

But... but... isn't that what you were trying to indicate you were writing when you pointed to your leaky mug at Emerald City Comicon? That it was a mystery and we had to figure it out? And therefore you are writing Scooby Doo? I'm crushed! Crushed, I tell ya!


And third, what the hell is so wrong with Scooby Doo? People a thousand times more talented than Rick have worked on that book, and frankly, if he lived to be a hundred, he could never get a script approved for it as he simply doesn't have any writing chops of any kind, not a one.

A good Scooby Doo story involves mystery, which in my limited opinion is one of the hardest types of writing to get right. I have nothing but admiration for folks able to tackle a book like that and make it read well.


Honestly?
I dont think he cares for comics, AT ALL.
They are a vehicle for his ego.

Exactly. I think Mr Olney just craves attention. He's getting plenty of it from this thread, and is probably enjoying the whole thing perversely when he's not wetting his pants at the thought of being sued/arrested for his crimes.

For us, this thread is a venting spot, where we can be obnoxious about the whole matter. For Olney, this thread is validation that he's important. That's why he keeps trying to draw the people in this thread into arguments elsewhere. He wants more validation. He'd be delighted if everyone was talking about him on every single comic message board and blog. That's why it's crucial for us to keep as much of the Olney talk as possible restricted to this thread. Don't validate him outside of this spot.

[MacQuarrie]

But you know, everything I see wrong with Olney's writing is just...he doesn't know and doesn't bother to learn. There is nothing wrong with his writing that couldn't be fixed by 1) attending writer workshops 2) read other people's works and really concentrate on what you think they are doing right and what you think they are doing wrong and ask yourself why it is right and wrong and 3) going to people for advice. Of course, he would never do any of those things because that would imply he is not perfect.
How many times I gotta say it?

We call it Fonzie Syndrome. Remember the episode of "Happy Days" where Fonz tries to apologize to Richie, but he literally cannot say the word "wrong"? That's it.

His disability is that he can never admit he's wrong or doesn't know something. He breaks out in hives, chills, cold sweats and trembling when confronted with the possibility of having to admit an error or confess to ignorance. He can't do it.

But as I said before, the ability to learn anything begins with the admission that you don't know it yet, or that what you knew is wrong. If you can't ever be wrong, you can't ever learn.

Condemned to eternal ignorance and failure. Tragic really. Won't you help? Operators are standing by to accept your pledges.

[Sarah Beach]

I just found this on the Tales of the Spooky myspace. It follows a scarrrry story about babysitting.



What handicap would he be talking about (besides lack of ability)? And if he has a handicap that affects he writing ability, why is he trying to become a writer?

Discuss.

He's mentioned medical conditions that affect his memory (due to thyroid &/or adrenal problems). Other than that? Dinno.

Not that it makes much diff or excuse for poor writing - not in an age when dyslexics, autistics, people recovering for Multiple Personality Disorder, and some with Adult Attention Deficit Disorder have all turned out high quality literary works. If one applies oneself to the craft, it can be learned. So really, if one wants to be a writer all that much, there are ways to compensate without turning out crappy work. Except, of course, that you have to work at it. Heh. That may be the handicap - inability to do the work... out of laziness.

[Flamebird]

I think that his bigest handicap as a writer is a simple lack of talent.

All the rest just compounds the problem.

[Sarah Beach]

So, the plug was pulled on his mySpace account? (I'll have to check this out myself. ;) ) Given his ego, which tended to just make thing private - I'd say the deletion was against his will. God knows enough complaints about him and his behavior had to have been made of late. And I imagine that TPTB on mySpace had been watching, and finally decided he'd crossed a line.

Well! At least I don't have to keep a watchful eye out for his latest attempt to defame me (although his attempts have been rather pathetic).

Still... he is persistent, so I'm sure he'll pop up some other way. And like I said regarding the call to Tim, he's getting desperate and that may amp up his hostility.

[Draconomicon]

No, that one is still available because you know it isn't "Rick" ;) myspace.com/tales_of_the_spooky

I think the MVCN one is alive too. For now. Rick will have to have another place to bitch about all us "haters" somewhere others can read it.

Does the TLE myspace HAVE any friends?

...is there ANY time when he does NOT talk about HIMSELF???
Great God. John Byrne is a beginner in the game of narcism compared to Olney...
He talks about himself, he WRITES about himself, he only does things that focus on HIM.
ME ME ME ME ME ME WAAAHH WAAHHH WAHHH.

[Danny Donovan]

Say what you will about John Byrne (and must I point out the irony of misspelling his name whilst in a discussion of dyslexia?), he gets the work done. Lumping him in with Olney the Lonely (hey, Rich stole my epithet for RO as his item headline!) is pretty insulting.

Paul, you are quite correct and I deeply apologise to J.B. His fans, his family, and his friends for ever lumping him up with Rick.

I will say though, I DO wish I could say that my typo was done on purpose to be funny. But sadly it is more pavlovian. When I was growing up my friends used to TERRIBLY mispronounce his name calling him "John Brine"

So in my head anytime I mention Byrne, I am thinking "Brine" and thus typos abound! It wasn't until my early 20s at a comic con I learned it was pronounced BURN.

I have a funny storry about Bill Seinkevitch as well. :p

You don't even wanna KNOW how badly my brain messed that up. :p

[Reverend Smooth]

Considering that nobody involved in UNSCREWED has insulted myself or my husband for our (serious) disabilities, people don't need to worry about looking like they're bullies about that, too.

Heck, several people involved in the project are disabled, myself included.

[wishlish]

My first thought when I read he deleted his myshit profile:

Scooby Doo, where are you?

[JamesRitcheyIII]

I would have voted for Ron Paul if he were on the list.

Is it okay to be a LiberaltarianTM like me, and still mostly like him? His foreign policy is downright evolved, and with a person like him in the White House, he'd likely help undo the fact that the rest of the world hates us--not fer our freedoms, but for our shitty foreign policy.

[TomStillwell]

Should I mention the Mystery Machine was cruising down Wacker Drive this morning?

[KevinTBrown]

Should I mention the Mystery Machine was cruising down Wacker Drive this morning?

Damn, and I missed it.....

[MacQuarrie]

Is it okay to be a LiberaltarianTM like me, and still mostly like him? His foreign policy is downright evolved, and with a person like him in the White House, he'd likely help undo the fact that the rest of the world hates us--not fer our freedoms, but for our shitty foreign policy.
Heck yeah.

The thing I most look for in a candidate is honesty. I want somebody who's going to tell the truth even when it doesn't favor him, even when it makes his "side" look bad. I think Paul does that.

The thing I didn't like about Clinton wasn't his dishonesty, it was his ability to make dishonesty seem like no big deal. I thought Reagan was honest but simple, and he surrounded himself with lying weasels who paid lip-service to his principles. Bush Sr was completely dishonest, enough so that I voted for Dukakis even though I didn't much like him just in hopes of putting anybody but Bush in the Oval Office. I held my nose and voted for Dubya because Gore had Clinton-stink all over him and was in full-on liar mode throughout the campaign, lying stupidly about things that didn't matter, like his momma singing him to sleep with the Union Label jingle that was written when he was 27. If I had it to do over again, I would go ahead and waste my vote on the Libertarian candidate or Nader or some other "protest" vote.

You want my vote? Don't lie to me. It's really that simple.

Getting back to the topic.... Olney keeps saying we hate him. No, Dick, it's not personal. I don't hate YOU. I hate liars. You want me to stop hating you? Stop lying. Pay the people you screwed, and stop trying to find lying excuses for why cheating them is okay.

[MacQuarrie]

I have a funny story about Bill Seinkevitch as well. :p
Does it involve spelling it Sienkiewicz?

[colleen]

Mel Tillis also stuttered.

And Stephen J. Cannell is dyslexic as well.


IIRC, both gentlemen had/have relatively successful careers.

:cool:

Colleen Doran has a stutter and a lisp.

Spent special kids time in speech therapy in high school.

Got leads in several musical and play productions, teaches, lectures, and now no one can shut me the hell up.


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[Paul D. Storrie]

Paul, you are quite correct and I deeply apologise to J.B. His fans, his family, and his friends for ever lumping him up with Rick.

I will say though, I DO wish I could say that my typo was done on purpose to be funny. But sadly it is more pavlovian. When I was growing up my friends used to TERRIBLY mispronounce his name calling him "John Brine"

So in my head anytime I mention Byrne, I am thinking "Brine" and thus typos abound! It wasn't until my early 20s at a comic con I learned it was pronounced BURN.

The typo is fairly common, but you've got a better reason for it than most! Although it seems you're not alone in the "Brine" pronunciation, but it always catches me off guard when I actually hear it said.


I have a funny storry about Bill Seinkevitch as well. :p

I once surprised artist Chuck Wojtkiewicz (the spelling of whose name I just had to look up!) by getting the pronunciation right (or nearly so) on my first try.


You don't even wanna KNOW how badly my brain messed that up. :p

I think the popular pronunciation when he first started, among the people I knew, was Sane-ko-wits. Why? No clue.

PDS

[Paul D. Storrie]

Colleen Doran has a stutter and a lisp.

Spent special kids time in speech therapy in high school.

Got leads in several musical and play productions, teaches, lectures, and now no one can shut me the hell up.


c

Why would anyone want to? You're perfectly charming to talk to!

Nice chatting with you for a bit in New York, by the way.

PDS

[colleen]

Why would anyone want to? You're perfectly charming to talk to!

Nice chatting with you for a bit in New York, by the way.

PDS


Aw shucks. Thanks.

Just pointing out the funky kids aren't necessarily handicapped in any way.

[TCJohnson]

Aw shucks. Thanks.

Just pointing out the funky kids aren't necessarily handicapped in any way.

Or adults for that matter.


: puts on earphones to tune Colleen Doran out....ah, silence. :

;):D

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

...is there ANY time when he does NOT talk about HIMSELF???
Great God. John Byrne is a beginner in the game of narcism compared to Olney...
He talks about himself, he WRITES about himself, he only does things that focus on HIM.
ME ME ME ME ME ME WAAAHH WAAHHH WAHHH.

He just needs to talk about himself in the third person in journals.

"Well you know, the Rick drove in his van of justice today, reading my comics in my nook. The Rick thinks he can do bettr then those plebes in the industry. What does Kurt Busiek, "Gail", Tony Isabella and Mark Waid really no about comics? The Rick says The Spooky will be the greatest.comic.EVER. Right behind Frankenborg and Freedom 3.

and I'll get you little artists. never underestmnate the power that is my NDA!

If you smell-la-la-ow! what the rick is drinking. goos night pukee."

[KevinTBrown]

Colleen Doran has a stutter and a lisp.

Spent special kids time in speech therapy in high school.

Got leads in several musical and play productions, teaches, lectures, and now no one can shut me the hell up.


c

Now if you could only draw too, then you'd be perfect.....


Oh.

Wait.


:o

Heh. Never mind.

[colleen]

Now if you could only draw too, then you'd be perfect.....


Oh.

Wait.


:o

Heh. Never mind.

Some people say I can't, but we don't talk about them.

[JamesRitcheyIII]

Heck yeah.

The thing I most look for in a candidate is honesty. I want somebody who's going to tell the truth even when it doesn't favor him, even when it makes his "side" look bad. I think Paul does that.

The thing I didn't like about Clinton wasn't his dishonesty, it was his ability to make dishonesty seem like no big deal. I thought Reagan was honest but simple, and he surrounded himself with lying weasels who paid lip-service to his principles. Bush Sr was completely dishonest, enough so that I voted for Dukakis even though I didn't much like him just in hopes of putting anybody but Bush in the Oval Office. I held my nose and voted for Dubya because Gore had Clinton-stink all over him and was in full-on liar mode throughout the campaign, lying stupidly about things that didn't matter, like his momma singing him to sleep with the Union Label jingle that was written when he was 27. If I had it to do over again, I would go ahead and waste my vote on the Libertarian candidate or Nader or some other "protest" vote.

You want my vote? Don't lie to me. It's really that simple.

I like what Paul represents, and he has a voting record of honest dissent based on common sense, even if I'm not 100% on board with his domestic policy.

Unlike most Latte-Sippin' Libral A-Leetists, I can't stand Clinton. While I automatically assume most politicians are liars, he did more to harm Civil Liberties than any President since Andrew Jackson, with only GWB topping him.

Yeah--Bill Bradley was on The Daily Show last night, talking about the hoops Dems have to jump through to get nominated--all you have to do is not stand for anything, stand the middle ground--not too cold, not too hot, by all observation of recent strategy. With Gore, I don't think he lied as much as stupidly listened to his party--apparently micromanaged into a 'little box'--he just did what they wanted and read from the script.


Getting back to the topic.... Olney keeps saying we hate him. No, Dick, it's not personal. I don't hate YOU. I hate liars. You want me to stop hating you? Stop lying. Pay the people you screwed, and stop trying to find lying excuses for why cheating them is okay.

Since I was a kid, I've never understood active hatred. I can despise a behavior--group-think, emotional immaturity, sadistic cruelty, denial and deflection of personal responsibility for ones actions, etc., but loathing people I consider children, emotionally, would make me feel like a child, and drag me to their level. I have no problem with beating up bullies or reading somebody I disagree with the riot act, though (as some might have noticed)--sometimes a 'spanking' is needed by the offender, for their own benefit:D.

[generaljackcosmo]

"For the writing critics, sorry. My writing is as good as its going to get taking my handicap into consideration."

Obviously he's retarded.

But, really, how absurd is this? What medical condition could he possibly be referring to that inhibits one's ability to write well? Because he obviously has no problem with the physical act of writing/typing. Spelling, yes. Stringing words together to form sentences that make even a little bit of sense, sure. Writing/typing, no. So his only problem is that his stories suck. How is that in any way related to a medical condition?

Rick, if you are reading this, and I know you are, I have to commend you:

I didn't think it was possible for you to be any more offensive, but you proved me wrong. You blame your horrible writing on a handicap? What does that say for the countless individuals who have overcome real physical and/or mental adversity, only to reach staggering heights of success in their chosen fields?

You are such a worthless, lying, no-talent pussy bitch it is insane.

[TCJohnson]

My writing is as good as its going to get

That is what has been bothering me.

I don't know any artist, and writer at any skill level who says that this is as good as my art is going to get. No matter what level you are at or who you are, you can always push to make it better. Alan Moore doesn't even say this is the best my writing can get.

It is possible that Olney can become a good writer, seriously. But he never, ever will be cause he has said my writing is as good as it is going to get.

[JTPencils]

Send me $50 in check or money order, and I'll let you use my screwed credentials for one month.;)

Jeeeeesus Reb, you come cheap! LOL!!

[Reverend Smooth]

Some people say I can't, but we don't talk about them.I don't think you'll find 'em here anyway.

You draw purdy. ^^

[JTPencils]

I want to give respect to Finney Gage again. He didn't say he was worried about not getting paid, but that he was worried about getting paid and then having a guilty conscience about the people who did not get paid. I think that says a lot about him.

A part of me, however, kinda wishes he took the job. Olney was saying he would pay in advance...I would like to know how Olney would have gotten around that one, how he would have cheated this artist.

Simple enough. He'd have said "the check is in the mail.. and in the meantime... while waiting for it to arrive, just go ahead and do the pages (at the no doubt inflated amount he "promised") and then when you get the payment, you'll already have some pages done to show me!"

As to Gage, he's got alot of integrity, to be concerned about the UNPAID creative folks that came before him... and because of that, he turned down the gig. Though it was no doubt hurtful to have to turn down what certainly SOUNDS like a dream situation... in the long run, he'll be glad he didn't invest any time or effort, to an unprofitible venture. I haven't seen any of Gage's work... is there anyone that can provide a link to it??

[JTPencils]

Stevie Wonder was the worlds scariest pilot.

Maybe so, but Ray Charles was an exemplary NYC cab driver before getting into music. I'm a bit surprised they neglected that in the Jamie Foxx bio film.

[JamesRitcheyIII]

That is what has been bothering me.

I don't know any artist, and writer at any skill level who says that this is as good as my art is going to get. No matter what level you are at or who you are, you can always push to make it better. Alan Moore doesn't even say this is the best my writing can get.

It is possible that Olney can become a good writer, seriously. But he never, ever will be cause he has said my writing is as good as it is going to get.

I'm with Genral Jack, about the retardation handicap. Another disability he possesses is a profound, complete lack of curiosity--curiosity being something that any good writer depends upon. He's mentally lazy, hates details, and I seriously doubt if he's ever even read a single book without pictures all the way though his entire life. I've never met a single creative person worth a damn who thought they were incapable of learning and improvement. He'd have to shoot for mediocrity, to even achieve that, and he never will.

[Reverend Smooth]

Getting better at your craft requires hard work. Olney doesn't dig hard work, so he doesn't improve.

[JTPencils]

The sad part is, a lot of people, including many of the people he's stiffed, would have accepted a back-end deal if he had been honest with them from the start. There are a lot of indy comics publishers doing exactly that. Instead of promising stuff he can't deliver, he could have simply told the truth. Why is that so hard?

In a sense, he DID offer a back end deal. All we (the creators he acquired) had to do, was bend over, and he'll stick it up... never mind. You all get what I mean.

(seriously though), I've only done a back end deal with a couple of folks... and it's not something I think I'd do again. Just a personal choice.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Getting better at your craft requires hard work. Olney doesn't dig hard work, so he doesn't improve.

Quoted for Truth.

Medical condition? Who is he kidding?

JP

[Linkara]

I have a medical condition that requires me to laugh at sad losers who don't try to improve their writing.

It's just awful - I feel like my sides are splitting, I mean I can't even get any writing done!

[Coppervale Studio]

I was just informed that because my friend Carlos voiced the metaphor that "Rick isn't a publisher - he's a bus-station pimp" and I keyed in and publicly posted the metaphor that "Rick isn't a publisher - he's a bus-station pimp", which was made in discussing the situation with dodged-a-bullet-boy Fin Gage, Rick has turned our names over to his attorney for possible legal action.

Heh. 'Attorney'.

The original offer still stands: a thousand bucks to the charity of your choice for the name and contact info of an attorney who will admit repping Rick for the last six months.

[DungeonmasterJim]

Hi guys, I'm pimping here because my own thread probably won't be seen much. :( :p

But, yeah! Vote for G. Penguin!

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=171059

or better yet, just go here:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=171023



Also somewhat Olney related. I took this first paragraph from Finny's latest blog. I hope he doesn't mind me posting it. Seems Olney is still getting mileage out of that Tucci picture:


So this morning (after a very long night!!!) I found that Rick had emailed me a bunch of his publishing credentials!! And while he admits he has never published an actual comic book he seems to have published several dozen newsletters and had pictures of people like Billy Tucci so apparently there is something credible there.

DM Jim

[TCJohnson]

I haven't seen any of Gage's work... is there anyone that can provide a link to it??

Do you have a myspace account? He has one page under his profile.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=176625487&albumID=0&imageID=1241051

[Calliope's Comics]

Wow,
In an amazing bit of synchronicity, I am getting a call tomorrow morning from Billy Tucci. I will be sure to inform him that Rick is using his image to pass himself off as a publisher.

[wishlish]

He also said, in that same post, that since Olney couldn't produce a single artist that he's paid, he wouldn't work for him. Olney then pronounced him part of the hate group.

I feel bad for Finney. That was a very tempting offer. It's not his fault Olney is who he is. He stood his ground. I hope he keeps working at his craft and gets paying work.

[Danny Donovan]

Does it involve spelling it Sienkiewicz?

Shaddup. You're just hating on me because of my disability of posting when I'm half awake! *cries*

HATER!!!! HATER!!!!!

seriously tho, thanks for giving me the right spelling.




I think the popular pronunciation when he first started, among the people I knew, was Sane-ko-wits. Why? No clue.

PDS

I always added an extra K. like Sknecktivich. I have no clue why. The person who corrected me was actually Nat Jones.

We were at Heroes Con and the whole "mad science studios" group went out there and I was the youngest of the bunch and the most green. I was excited about Bill doing something for the charity auction and was mentioning how I hoped it went cheap so I could win it.
(it didn't)

Nat was like "who?" to which I was almost offended in saying "Dude, you know who that is! He drew Daredevil and New Mutants!" To which Nat replied. "It's SIN-KEV-ITCH"

*dies*


Colleen Doran has a stutter and a lisp.

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She's also a rampant heartbreaker!!!!!!!!!!:p :p :p


So this morning (after a very long night!!!) I found that Rick had emailed me a bunch of his publishing credentials!! And while he admits he has never published an actual comic book he seems to have published several dozen newsletters and had pictures of people like Billy Tucci so apparently there is something credible there.

Looks like I AM going to have to say something.

[TCJohnson]

Olney then pronounced him part of the hate group.



Who said this?

Edit: I mean, where was this said?

[Coppervale Studio]

This is the picture he sent to Finney:

http://pics.livejournal.com/coppervale/pic/000ahhra

Finney's no longer even NEAR the gray area in this choice. Rick keep insisting that Fin take the word of someone who has NEVER HAD A CREDIT IN A PUBLISHED COMIC BOOK over the many words of people who have done this for a living for DECADES.

I've known Billy for fifteen years. SHI and STARCHILD came out within a few months of each other, and we met at the big distrib trade shows. We've been friends since. So using HIM as credibility that RICK is being honest and I'M full of crap went over like a lead balloon once I'd explained the history.

[Danny Donovan]

I sent this to Mr. Finney.


My name is Danny Donovan. I'm a PR guy for Unscrewed! and another published comic book author he's gipped. I'm owed somewhere over $500 for the past 3 years or so.

I've had a number of published credits and even worked for Marvel for a brief (I'm talking brief!) moment. If you need ANY proof feel free to check my myspace, watch the video I have where I flash my books in print talking about unscrewed! it was a horrible video but dammit I tried.

If you want proof of my work for Marvel I can send you a scan of my one and only paycheck from the house of ideas' X-MEN office.

Rick's "newsletters" were not "published" they were xeroxed at Kinkos and mailed out.

Rick does NOT KNOW BILLY TUCCI. Billy is in fact a friend of mine and he e-mailed me out of the blue on Myspace to tell me to let people know that he does not know Rick nor does he have anything to do with Rick.

Billy is, in fact, supporting unscrewed! and is donating a nice piece of art for our ongoing auctions.

If you need me to clarify anything that I learned during my "employ" by Mr. Olney I will gladly give you the benefit of my years. It is up to you what you do. But I don't want anyone else winding up like me and my friends.

Thanks!
-DD

So I'm sure Jim beat me to it but I had to say something.

IT IS WRONG TO USE A PERSON AS ENDORSEMENT WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION RICK!

[Magneto_X]

*gets a beer for Finney when he shows up*

[Coppervale Studio]

Who said this?

Edit: I mean, where was this said?

Rick said it in an email to Fin: "You went with the hate group."

[KevinTBrown]

Some people say I can't, but we don't talk about them.

To those who say that, I merely cover my ears with my hands and say, "la la la la..."

:)

[Gail Simone]

I was just informed that because my friend Carlos voiced the metaphor that "Rick isn't a publisher - he's a bus-station pimp" and I keyed in and publicly posted the metaphor that "Rick isn't a publisher - he's a bus-station pimp", which was made in discussing the situation with dodged-a-bullet-boy Fin Gage, Rick has turned our names over to his attorney for possible legal action.

Heh. 'Attorney'.

The original offer still stands: a thousand bucks to the charity of your choice for the name and contact info of an attorney who will admit repping Rick for the last six months.

Be sure to mention how he called specific women here whores and porno actresses.

Gail

[JamesRitcheyIII]

IT IS WRONG TO USE A PERSON AS ENDORSEMENT WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION RICK!

Speaking of ethical questions...

I was perusing U.S. Code, Title 17 today, and I ran across this:

TITLE 17 > CHAPTER 5 >
§ 506. Criminal offenses


(a) Criminal Infringement.— Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either—
(1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or
(2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000,
shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, United States Code. For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement.

Down to:

(c) Fraudulent Copyright Notice.— Any person who, with fraudulent intent, places on any article a notice of copyright or words of the same purport that such person knows to be false, or who, with fraudulent intent, publicly distributes or imports for public distribution any article bearing such notice or words that such person knows to be false, shall be fined not more than $2,500.

Anybody who's had their artwork posted on any site belonging to Rick Olney, or Tightlip Entertainment, without your permission, with a copyright notice listed for Tighwad next to it should seek criminal prosecution.

There are specifics for illustration and design that are even better. I recommend any creator read all of this:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sup_01_17_10_5.html

[DocAbsurd]

I have a new-found disability:

I'm delusional. At best.

And stop taking my name in vain! Yer going on my list, Cosmo!

[Kozemp]

Called my mother - who at one point treated dyslexics - and asked about the handicap affecting one's writing ability.

I love the way she summed it up:

"Dyslexia makes you a bad typist, not a bad writer."

JLK
not dyslexic

[rummblestrips]

Speaking of ethical questions...

I was perusing U.S. Code, Title 17 today, and I ran across this:

TITLE 17 > CHAPTER 5 >
§ 506. Criminal offenses


(a) Criminal Infringement.— Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either—
(1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or
(2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000,
shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, United States Code. For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement.

Down to:

(c) Fraudulent Copyright Notice.— Any person who, with fraudulent intent, places on any article a notice of copyright or words of the same purport that such person knows to be false, or who, with fraudulent intent, publicly distributes or imports for public distribution any article bearing such notice or words that such person knows to be false, shall be fined not more than $2,500.

Anybody who's had their artwork posted on any site belonging to Rick Olney, or Tightlip Entertainment, without your permission, with a copyright notice listed for Tighwad next to it should seek criminal prosecution.

There are specifics for illustration and design that are even better. I recommend any creator read all of this:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sup_01_17_10_5.html

QUOTED because that is why I contacted Myspace about Rick Olney. I stated that he had pictures of ME, my comic and my logos WITHOUT my permission and he was using them to promote his own bizarre world. I'm hoping that's why he's been kicked off.

Can someone tell me if he still has pictures up of the attendees of his ONE convention still up on another username? If so, myspace is getting another letter.

[Inkpot1965]

Jeeeeesus Reb, you come cheap! LOL!!

Hey,. that's more than that NDA ever got me from Rick

[TCJohnson]

QUOTED because that is why I contacted Myspace about Rick Olney. I stated that he had pictures of ME, my comic and my logos WITHOUT my permission and he was using them to promote his own bizarre world. I'm hoping that's why he's been kicked off.

Can someone tell me if he still has pictures up of the attendees of his ONE convention still up on another username? If so, myspace is getting another letter.

Yes he does. Along with 'Tony Isabella', Gail Simone and Mercy VanVlack, who apparently wrote Marvel's Deadpool and AgentX, DC's Birds of Prey, and Bongo's Bart Simpson.



He has multiple myspace sites. He deleted his personal one, but you are still up on his MMC site.

[Danny Donovan]

He has multiple myspace sites. He deleted his personal one, but you are still up on his MMC site.

We don't know that for sure.

Myspace might have taken it down.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Nope, she's still on there. Check out his blog on his MMC myspace. Tony, Gail and many others are still on there prominently.

JP

[Reverend Smooth]

Called my mother - who at one point treated dyslexics - and asked about the handicap affecting one's writing ability.

I love the way she summed it up:

"Dyslexia makes you a bad typist, not a bad writer."

JLK
not dyslexicIt doesn't even have to make you a bad typist. I go back and fix my errors. XD

[Cam63]

...and I'll get you little artists. never underestmnate the power that is my NDA!

If you smell-la-la-ow! what the rick is drinking. goos night pukee."

Will that fit on a T shirt ?

[Larry Dixon]

Does it matter? The person reading the comic does not take anything into account except what's on the paper.

True story: My friend Kurt (who pop in here semi-occasionally under the handle "Cei-U" is quadraplegic, and he draws by holding a pencil in his teeth. He's got a great "Golden Age" style. Many years ago, when Jim Shooter was still in charge at Marvel, Kurt took his portfolio to the San Diego Comic-con and showed it to Shooter. (He got hired, but that's not the point of the story.)

At one point, while Shooter was reviewing his book, Kurt's dad remarked "pretty good, considering he draws with his mouth, huh?"

Shooter replied, "I don't care if he sticks the pencil up his ass and scoots around on the paper. All that matters is what's on the page."

When Kurt told me this story, he was very pleased about it. He doesn't expect a free pass and wouldn't accept one; he doesn't want anyone to say he's "a good artist, considering...." He'd rather be a good artist period.

My contempt for Rick just grows and grows.

That story is BAAADASSSSS. And by the way, Misty (Mercedes Lackey) is dyslexic, and her most common misspelling is "Comapnion." If you know her books, that's especially funny. :)

Me, I am nearsighted and have a rare colorblindness disorder; my color perception changes every 3 to 6 weeks. But I paint color covers. I memorize color theory, and my paints are labelled. I work digitally when I can so I get RGB index numbers, so I can paint in colors I can't see.

I am of the opinion that people will accomplish what they truly care deeply about, and finding the solutions required for that is part of loving it.

[TomStillwell]

Speaking of ethical questions...

I was perusing U.S. Code, Title 17 today, and I ran across this:

TITLE 17 > CHAPTER 5 >
§ 506. Criminal offenses


(a) Criminal Infringement.— Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either—
(1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or
(2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000,
shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, United States Code. For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement.

Down to:

(c) Fraudulent Copyright Notice.— Any person who, with fraudulent intent, places on any article a notice of copyright or words of the same purport that such person knows to be false, or who, with fraudulent intent, publicly distributes or imports for public distribution any article bearing such notice or words that such person knows to be false, shall be fined not more than $2,500.

Anybody who's had their artwork posted on any site belonging to Rick Olney, or Tightlip Entertainment, without your permission, with a copyright notice listed for Tighwad next to it should seek criminal prosecution.

There are specifics for illustration and design that are even better. I recommend any creator read all of this:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sup_01_17_10_5.html

He still has a ton of unpaid for artwork up on the Tightlip site.

[TCJohnson]

Me, I am nearsighted and have a rare colorblindness disorder; my color perception changes every 3 to 6 weeks. But I paint color covers. I memorize color theory, and my paints are labelled. I work digitally when I can so I get RGB index numbers, so I can paint in colors I can't see.

Reminds me of a friend of mine I grew up with, Josh. He is also very colorblind. What does he do for a living, you ask? Assistant director on the Simpsons.

[Reverend Smooth]

(And Larry and Misty do awesome jobs, so.)

Larry's right.

I'm legally blind, and can't see all of my monitor at once. So I work with my nose up to the screen in six-inch increments or so, and just scroll the image or move my head or the laptop to see more. If I want to read a website, I just do a good imitation of a turtle. I can't sit up for more than ten minutes at a time without fainting, so I work from my bed with a laptop.

I don't want to hear about Olney's supposed disabilities, especially pstensible adrenal issues. I have practically no adrenal function, have memory loss, can't even remember my way around the block, but I can work, I can write, and I can remember to pay my bills and my artists. The only thing that ever stops me from working is stuff like vomiting blood or an inability to move my limbs, and trust me, I intend to buy the tech, when it's affordable, to be able to move a cursor with one's eyes so I can work that way, too.

Larime types, writes, draws, and plays piano with a stick in his mouth, because he has very little use of his limbs. He's working towards getting licensed to do real estate. I've seen him go to work in 120-degree weather, come home in agony, and then go back the next day, to put food on the table... and then go out and coach kids for the local little league football (or whatever it's called). And he never complained. (This was before I got really ill, he has to stay closer to home now in case something, uh, unexpected happens to me.)

If you are disabled and you have ambition, you will, despite the very real pain, discomfort, stress, depression, and so on, do your best and excel. You may want to give up, you may think you'll never make it, you may spend many anguished days and nights, but you will nonetheless claw your way to whatever success you can get and you will do your damndest to keep it.

You will NOT make excuses and fuck others over (and say your talent is limited). That is not part of being disabled, that's part of being a lazy jerk. Disabled or not, responsible adults do their best.

[MacQuarrie]

Did Olney skip kindergarten or something? There's all this rudimentary stuff he never grasped, like "tell the truth" and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and "don't steal" and so on. Stuff that any decent parent or competent teacher will attempt to instill in kids long before they can cross the street by themselves.

Like this latest bit about his "disability."

I tell my kids (and the kids in my Sunday school classes, and the kids in my archery program) all the time:

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."

It's not freakin' rocket surgery.

[CutterMike]

We're asking you to vote on the next President of the United States from a list of 20 (!) candidates. Not including me.Tony Isabella

Tony, I'm disapointed - You didn't list Christopher Walken (http://www.walken2008.com/)!

Can't you see him in the Oval Office, negotiating with Ahmedinajad (sp?) of Iran...?

Ahmedinajad leans backin his chair and, behind his hand, whispers to his aide:

"Y'know, I gotta tellya - I'm completely bugfuck crazy and THIS guy is CREEPING ME OUT! Have you noticed...? He NEVER BLINKS!"

[rummblestrips]

Yes he does. Along with 'Tony Isabella', Gail Simone and Mercy VanVlack, who apparently wrote Marvel's Deadpool and AgentX, DC's Birds of Prey, and Bongo's Bart Simpson.

He has multiple myspace sites. He deleted his personal one, but you are still up on his MMC site.

Got it. I've already contacted MYSPACE and included the first email I sent to them as well. They're going to be very interested to know this is the second time he's been contacted about this. I also listed the other MYSPACE personalities that he has as I don't believe you're allowed to have additional MYSPACE accounts when one has been suspended.

Tony, Gail and the rest of you guys up on that page, I hope you send MYSPACE a similar email if you haven't already.

[Danny Donovan]

It's not freakin' rocket surgery.

Is that like Rock Science? :p

[Cam63]

Maybe so, but Ray Charles was an exemplary NYC cab driver before getting into music. I'm a bit surprised they neglected that in the Jamie Foxx bio film.

He was one helluva optometrist too.

[rummblestrips]

OFF TOPiC, but because it was brought up-

I never looked into it as I was too young at the time to think of it as something medical and since I was a child, I've usually been able to control it but it's returned the past year. When ever I want to say the colour yellow, I say white, when I want to say white, I say Yellow.
Is that some sort of dyslexia?

[Tobias March]

Aphasia? Sorry I'm not entirely sure, but I was under the impression that aphasia is a limited form of dyslexia.

[Cam63]

Wow,
In an amazing bit of synchronicity, I am getting a call tomorrow morning from Billy Tucci. I will be sure to inform him that Rick is using his image to pass himself off as a publisher.

Oh, please do !

[MacQuarrie]

Tony, I'm disapointed - You didn't list Christopher Walken (http://www.walken2008.com/)!

Can't you see him in the Oval Office, negotiating with Ahmedinajad (sp?) of Iran...?

Ahmedinajad leans backin his chair and, behind his hand, whispers to his aide:

"Y'know, I gotta tellya - I'm completely bugfuck crazy and THIS guy is CREEPING ME OUT! Have you noticed...? He NEVER BLINKS!"

And don't forget The Bull Moose Candidate (http://www.geocities.com/lorencollins/macq08/index.html).

And for the Geek vote, the same page in Kryptonian. (http://www.geocities.com/lorencollins/macq08/krypton.html)

[Larry Dixon]

OFF TOPiC, but because it was brought up-

I never looked into it as I was too young at the time to think of it as something medical and since I was a child, I've usually been able to control it but it's returned the past year. When ever I want to say the colour yellow, I say white, when I want to say white, I say Yellow.
Is that some sort of dyslexia?

I don't know, but I advise caution when eating snow.

[Cam63]

That yellow snow tastes like American beer.

[JTPencils]

That yellow snow tastes like American beer.

I still say Python had it perfect...

"American beer is like making love in a canoe...

Fucking close to water"

[CutterMike]

Me, I am nearsighted and have a rare colorblindness disorder; my color perception changes every 3 to 6 weeks. But I paint color covers. I memorize color theory, and my paints are labelled. I work digitally when I can so I get RGB index numbers, so I can paint in colors I can't see.

Damn! That's twice in 24 hours that you have impressed the hell out of me, sir!

I'm severely nearsighted, as well (was legally blind, as a child; now correctible with glasses to about 20/100 - 20/150, last I knew - hardly WORTH wearing the glasses!). The Mass. Commission for the Blind put me through art school, which my counselor thought was just the greatest thing ever - he LOVED having the client that skewed their demographic all to hell!)

[Cam63]

I still say Python had it perfect...

"American beer is like making love in a canoe...

Fucking close to water"

That was the " Bruces " sketch where they played Australians.

It was pretty accurate.

[JTPencils]

That was the " Bruces " sketch where they played Australians.

It was pretty accurate.

You're spot on Cam!

[rummblestrips]

I don't know, but I advise caution when eating snow.

You're on my list!!!!

[colleen]

That story is BAAADASSSSS. And by the way, Misty (Mercedes Lackey) is dyslexic, and her most common misspelling is "Comapnion." If you know her books, that's especially funny. :)

Me, I am nearsighted and have a rare colorblindness disorder; my color perception changes every 3 to 6 weeks. But I paint color covers. I memorize color theory, and my paints are labelled. I work digitally when I can so I get RGB index numbers, so I can paint in colors I can't see.

I am of the opinion that people will accomplish what they truly care deeply about, and finding the solutions required for that is part of loving it.

That's interesting. I didn't know about that.

I have synesthesia. I was about 30 years old before I realized everyone didn't see things the way I do. I thought it was normal.

It's not a disability by any means, but I really thought everyone saw colors and shapes floating around. I think it's why I like working in black and white. It's restful.

c

[Reverend Smooth]

It's not a disability by any means, but I really thought everyone saw colors and shapes floating around. I think it's why I like working in black and white. It's restful.I actually find it really useful, because one look at a comic page and all the colors, words, and symbols float on top and around it, so it's easy to then work that (http://www.hollowcomic.com/galleries/albums/userpics/10001/19Done%7E0.jpg) into the painting.

[Danny Donovan]

I'm mathlexic!

[colleen]

Eh, it doesn't work that way for me.

I don't look at a picture and see it floating around, I will have a sensation and THEN see pictures. They are not necessarily pleasant, they are just there. And sometimes it can cause a sensation of vertigo or nausea. Some modern art that uses highly saturated color, I can't even look at. It makes me dizzy.

Let me put it this way: I thought everyone got angry and saw red.

When I get angry, I see a red curtain come down like a thin sheet of stained glass. Then I see white blotches like sparklers, and black blobs. I thought everyone did.

Now, it's not going to do anything to your life one way or another, except some people don't understand why non-representational art that uses highly saturated color bugs me. Just because I don't like it, that doesn't mean it's bad art. I am having a different reaction to it than other people are having.

It doesn't even seem as intense as I get older anyway. It's no big deal.

c

[Tobias March]

Eh, it doesn't work that way for me.

I don't look at a picture and see it floating around, I will have a sensation and THEN see pictures. They are not necessarily pleasant, they are just there. And sometimes it can cause a sensation of vertigo or nausea. Some modern art that uses highly saturated color, I can't even look at. It makes me dizzy.

Let me put it this way: I thought everyone got angry and saw red.

When I get angry, I see a red curtain come down like a thin sheet of stained glass. Then I see white blotches like sparklers, and black blobs. I thought everyone did.

Now, it's not going to do anything to your life one way or another, except some people don't understand why non-representational art that uses highly saturated color bugs me. Just because I don't like it, that doesn't mean it's bad art. I am having a different reaction to it than other people are having.

It doesn't even seem as intense as I get older anyway. It's no big deal.

c

I ascribe genders to numbers. Which is plain nuts. But then I met one other person who does that and she too was synaethetic.

[Flamebird]

Originally Posted by MacQuarrie

It's not freakin' rocket surgery.





Is that like Rock Science? :p



Or Brain Science even! :p

[Reverend Smooth]

I just find it interesting as to how it plays out in different people, is all. XD

I don't tend to associate anything with my own emotions, though I do see stuff overlaying and around others when they display emotions.

Though I do understand exactly what you mean in regards to nausea and certain colors, particularly orange and yellow.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I am not on my computer, but I would like to take a moment to point at Rick.

http://foros.eluniversal.com.mx/blogs/imagenes/Nelson_Muntz_rie2.jpg

HA HA!!!!

[Flamebird]

I just find it interesting as to how it plays out in different people, is all. XD

I don't tend to associate anything with my own emotions, though I do see stuff overlaying and around others when they display emotions.

Though I do understand exactly what you mean in regards to nausea and certain colors, particularly orange and yellow.

How odd. Orange enthralls me like a bird caught in the gaze of a snake.

Whaen they came out with those bright orange fords a few years ago, I could stand and stare at one for hours in a seeming trance.

Yellow has almost no resonance for me. Go figure.

[OzBat!]

Me, I am nearsighted and have a rare colorblindness disorder; my color perception changes every 3 to 6 weeks. But I paint color covers. I memorize color theory, and my paints are labelled. I work digitally when I can so I get RGB index numbers, so I can paint in colors I can't see.So when you throw pointy angry birds at objects, do the birds need to memorise the target colors in RBG as well? That is HARDCORE!!

True story: since reading about your bird activities, this has become our catchcry for giving the budgerigars exercise inside the house now... "time to throw sharp angry birds at objects!" We don't have quite your accuracy though. Or maybe it's the Australian influence: they keep behaving like boomerangs and coming back!

[Reverend Smooth]

How odd. Orange enthralls me like a bird caught in the gaze of a snake.

Whaen they came out with those bright orange fords a few years ago, I could stand and stare at one for hours in a seeming trance.

Yellow has almost no resonance for me. Go figure.You must love this website, then. XD

[colleen]

I ascribe genders to numbers. Which is plain nuts. But then I met one other person who does that and she too was synaethetic.

Eh, we're not nuts. We're cross wired.

[Coppervale Studio]

Finney Gage's last two communiques with Rick's email in between...

Poor Rick. He can't stand being questioned - even when it's to provide a positive reference for himself. And now he's alienating people who aren't even in the business yet...


***************

From: "Finney Gage" <randbrailways@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Carlos and James Owen
To: "Rick Olney" <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com>
Every business should have SOME good references, but you seem to have none - just bad ones. So not providing ONE NAME of someone who can verify you paid them only hurts YOU. And your matter with Mr. Dixon hasn't even been FILED, much less gone to court - and your only claim against him is that he asked to be paid!!!

The CBR matter does involve me, because it's the only references you have - since you're unwilling to provide your own.

Rick Olney <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com> wrote:

Fin,
I have paid a number of people since last summer. I just feel the need to explain myself or justify myseld LIKE THIS to you, Carlos, Jim Owen or anyone in the comics industry. Far as the Dixon matter ... I told you that's a matter for the courts. Now, DON'T email me again. This CBR matter didn't include you no more than it had anything to do with the hate group there.

On 4/10/07, Finney Gage <randbrailways@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'd have done it if you could just say why Mr. Dixon couldn't be paid or pointed to one person you've ever hired that you did pay. Just one.

************************

[colleen]

I just find it interesting as to how it plays out in different people, is all. XD

I don't tend to associate anything with my own emotions, though I do see stuff overlaying and around others when they display emotions.

Though I do understand exactly what you mean in regards to nausea and certain colors, particularly orange and yellow.


Oh, boy. There is a particular highly saturated spring green, in combination with red, that makes me instantly hostile.

Unfortunately, you see it a lot in neon signs.

Eh, usually I just look away, but there's a few paintings in the Guggenheim I'd like to set on fire.

[colleen]

Finney Gage's last two communiques with Rick's email in between...

Poor Rick. He can't stand being questioned - even when it's to provide a positive reference for himself. And now he's alienating people who aren't even in the business yet...


***************

From: "Finney Gage" <randbrailways@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Carlos and James Owen
To: "Rick Olney" <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com>
Every business should have SOME good references, but you seem to have none - just bad ones. So not providing ONE NAME of someone who can verify you paid them only hurts YOU. And your matter with Mr. Dixon hasn't even been FILED, much less gone to court - and your only claim against him is that he asked to be paid!!!

The CBR matter does involve me, because it's the only references you have - since you're unwilling to provide your own.

Rick Olney <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com> wrote:

Fin,
I have paid a number of people since last summer. I just feel the need to explain myself or justify myseld LIKE THIS to you, Carlos, Jim Owen or anyone in the comics industry. Far as the Dixon matter ... I told you that's a matter for the courts. Now, DON'T email me again. This CBR matter didn't include you no more than it had anything to do with the hate group there.

On 4/10/07, Finney Gage <randbrailways@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'd have done it if you could just say why Mr. Dixon couldn't be paid or pointed to one person you've ever hired that you did pay. Just one.

************************

Every freelancer has the right to ask for references and to research credit.

A publisher is asking the freelancer to produce work for them and the publisher asks for 30 days credit to pay.

It's only fair to research and inquire as to whether or not the client is credit worthy.

c

[Reverend Smooth]

Oh, boy. There is a particular highly saturated spring green, in combination with red, that makes me instantly hostile.Understood. XD

It seems like your preference for B&W has resulted in serious skill there, though. Your pencils and inks are among my favorites in the industry because of the intense, clear detail, it's almost cinematic. I don't miss the lack of color because of all the detail, though I have to admit, coloring your stuff would be a trip. :3

[Sarah Beach]

I'm absolutely intrigued by your descriptions of variant perceptions (is there another way of describing it?)! I don't have those conditions to deal with, and I love saturated colors. In fact, working in oils frustrated me no end, because the color when dried was not the color I had worked with. When my dad introduced me to acrylics I was in heaven! And I can't seem to help but work in saturated colors.

It's weird - I can love and appreciate someone's work in very soft watercolors, for instance, but for the life of me, I can't seem to do it. I inevitably end up putting some sort of high contrast element into the piece.

I excuse it by saying "I have a strong personality," but I don't think that quite covers the whys of it. Ah well.

Anyway.... back to our regularly scheduled topic: yes, if mySpace pulled his page, they should be informed of his satellite pages - TightLip (which is still there and still private -- and tell them that he is the sole owner of the company, so it isn't as if it's being used by a whole slew of employees), MMC and Tales of the Spooky. Those are the only ones I know of for sure.

[Flamebird]

Does this mean Jason "the dupe" Dube is going to be his entire artistic stable?

I can just see his Freedom Three with big manga eyes and pinatas coming out their asses.:eek:

[Danny Donovan]

Anyway.... back to our regularly scheduled topic: yes, if mySpace pulled his page, they should be informed of his satellite pages - TightLip (which is still there and still private -- and tell them that he is the sole owner of the company, so it isn't as if it's being used by a whole slew of employees), MMC and Tales of the Spooky. Those are the only ones I know of for sure.


There's also the Mohawk Valley Newsletter.

As for Rick's "I DON'T NEED TO PROVE MYSELF TO YOU! YOU NEED TO KNOW I AM FLAWLESS!" reaction... I say, who did you pay last summer? It wasn't me. It wasn't Tim. It wasn't Ronee!

What work have you put out, or paid to produce is out there?

You don't have to explain yourself to anyone, that's right. YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. You don't have to excuse yourself word one, for what you do in this world you just have to stand by it.

Pay people or don't. In this case there's very little wiggle room. Pay those you owe, try to start a clean slate, LEARN from your mistakes. Or don't. Continue the road your on and find yourself locked out of the very fandom you claim to love. Find the same thing happening everywhere you go.

And find the money STILL going to those you owe via lawsuit winnings, while you don't claim any of the goodwill that would have come from just standing up, cutting a check, and shutting up.

[Coppervale Studio]

Does this mean Jason "the dupe" Dube is going to be his entire artistic stable?

I can just see his Freedom Three with big manga eyes and pinatas coming out their asses.:eek:

At a water park, no less. Rick told Fin that Saturday he was taking the 'guests' to a water theme park across from the hotel, then the 'con' would be on Sunday...

[Tegan]

Let me put it this way: I thought everyone got angry and saw red.

When I get angry, I see a red curtain come down like a thin sheet of stained glass. Then I see white blotches like sparklers, and black blobs. I thought everyone did.

Er. Doesn't everyone? I don't think I have synesthesia, but that's what happens to me, right down to the black blobs, when I get angry. It's very mild, but it happens. I suppose I could name other colors I see with emotions, but I thought that was completely normal. The one I see most often lately is a sheen of white that goes with pain. I generally don't have strong emotions anymore.

Your other comments, highly saturated colors, don't apply to me. But I do tend to see colors with strong emotions. I thought that was normal.

[Reverend Smooth]

I don't have those conditions to deal with, I'm pretty sure that in my case the condition's caused by my compromised endocrine system during foetal development and afterwards, if only because it's messed up just about everything else.

When my dad introduced me to acrylics I was in heaven! And I can't seem to help but work in saturated colors..
Bright colors can trigger pleasurable hormone releases. Are you an adrenalin junkie? :3

[Flamebird]

At a water park, no less. Rick told Fin that Saturday he was taking the 'guests' to a water theme park across from the hotel, then the 'con' would be on Sunday...

He's gonna "con" people on Sunday??? Guess he's not a Christian this week, huh?


But that reminds me, FIVE DAYS till his non-alterable guest list and location for his "CON".

Wonder how many people have sent their non-refundable money orders to him?

[Sarah Beach]

At a water park, no less. Rick told Fin that Saturday he was taking the 'guests' to a water theme park across from the hotel, then the 'con' would be on Sunday...

Oh, really? Well, with that information, it should be possible to narrow down the location of the con before he bothers to announce it. And also, from that it looks like his two day con is actually dwindling down to one day, in spite of what the MMC website says. Heh.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

At a water park, no less. Rick told Fin that Saturday he was taking the 'guests' to a water theme park across from the hotel, then the 'con' would be on Sunday...

Bet you money that the guests will have to pay for that too.

JP

[willtupper]

From here on out, I am hereby considering my herpes a "learning disability."

(Just kidding about the herpes - yes, really! :))

[Reverend Smooth]

From here on out, I am hereby considering my herpes a "learning disability."

(Just kidding about the herpes - yes, really! :))That's not what your lesions said last night~ >.>

[willtupper]

You can hear them too?!?!?!? :eek:


That's not what your lesions said last night~ >.>

[EdContradictory]

Oh, really? Well, with that information, it should be possible to narrow down the location of the con before he bothers to announce it. And also, from that it looks like his two day con is actually dwindling down to one day, in spite of what the MMC website says. Heh.

http://www.watersafari.com/ ?

[MacQuarrie]

At a water park, no less. Rick told Fin that Saturday he was taking the 'guests' to a water theme park across from the hotel, then the 'con' would be on Sunday...

Got to be this one:

Enchanted Forest/Water Safari
3183 Rte 28
Old Forge, NY 13420

It's the only one in Herkimer County.

[willtupper]

THANK GOODNESS RICK POSTED THIS WEEK'S SHIPPING LIST ON THE MOHAWK VALLEY COMICS NEWSLETTER MYSPACE!

What a great service he provides to the hobby and industry! I wouldn't have known what books were coming out this week without it!

:eek:

[Coppervale]

Got to be this one:

Enchanted Forest/Water Safari
3183 Rte 28
Old Forge, NY 13420

It's the only one in Herkimer County.


Yep. Old Forge is where Rick told Fin the MMC was going to be held in June.

[Danny Donovan]

THANK GOODNESS RICK POSTED THIS WEEK'S SHIPPING LIST ON THE MOHAWK VALLEY COMICS NEWSLETTER MYSPACE!

What a great service he provides to the hobby and industry! I wouldn't have known what books were coming out this week without it!

:eek:

Well he might as well get some use out of that Super-Hero News subscription... Seeing as how he's not gonna be posting there anymore... unless he actually has something of worth reading...

sooooo..

[colleen]

Er. Doesn't everyone? I don't think I have synesthesia, but that's what happens to me, right down to the black blobs, when I get angry. It's very mild, but it happens. I suppose I could name other colors I see with emotions, but I thought that was completely normal. The one I see most often lately is a sheen of white that goes with pain. I generally don't have strong emotions anymore.

Your other comments, highly saturated colors, don't apply to me. But I do tend to see colors with strong emotions. I thought that was normal.

No. It's not normal.


And everyone with synesthasia doesn't have the same reactions. Some people see colored letters when they read, or shapes and colors when listening to music. There are some common synesthesia phenomenon, but colors linked with emotion is uncommon.

The guy who said he gives numbers gender, that's not unusual either. Some people sense personalities to go with numbers and letters. Because color has literal meaning to me, the juxtaposition of colors that "don't belong" together is disorienting.

I don't see white blobs in pain, I see orange. Sometimes I see triangles.

There is nothing wrong with it in the least. All it means is that your senses are crosswired. When one sense is triggered, another sense is triggered at the same time. It's unusual, but it's perfectly normal for people like us.

The reason why you don't know that everyone doesn't have it is because it is so normal to us that we literally don't know that other people don't have it unless we ask. Why would we ask? It's like asking what breathing is like for someone else.

Sometimes the colors are so bright to me I can't see anything else, but that's pretty rare.


c

[colleen]

You can hear them too?!?!?!? :eek:

He hears his lesions?

Does he see colors, too?


:)

c

[Larry Dixon]

That's not what your lesions said last night~ >.>

The Defendant's appropriate new title: The Lesion Of Super Heroes.

...

Hey Colleen... I love black & white. Someone, somewhere, used the term "In Glorious Black and White!" as a gag, but I truly do love it. That term expresses how well-toned B&W makes me feel. My colorblindness meant that, in my early years of taking up art, I couldn't dazzle with color, so I concentrated on composition, texture, lighting and detail. Even today, my approach is very "tinted postcard"---classical underpainting stuff, with color glazed over, and opaques for punch-out highlights.

...

And I have to say this: A water park for convention guests? Hot holy mother of mud, that's ill-advised. For so many reasons.

[THEDOC]

I bookmarked the page last night so I could print it off this morning. I checked it less than an hour ago and it was still there. Now I'm getting this (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=250564333&MyToken=78e087ca-6c12-4040-b953-047cd702b878) from his blog:



Wassa matter, Olney, afraid of the detectives seeing what you type (in the words of Truman Capote, 'That's not writing, that's just typing.')? Not man enough -- not Marine enough to stand behind your own words?

Thank you so very much, Rich, for posting that reminder about the column. That's what happens when you drag others into your web of lies. Eventually you can't keep the falsehoods straight and you begin to depend on everyone keeping silent in the name of remaining 'neutral'.

If anyone has the screencaps from yesterday's blog activities, again please send them my way. I'm gonna need them for tomorrow.

Gee, Rick and I were getting along so famously. I guess he didn't like my last remark about his "great" Small Press expose'. Tim use ICC why should he bully you out of it!

[bluecove]

Found where the MMC is going to be held:

http://www.watersedgeinn.com/

It's right across the street from EF/WS.

[Danny Donovan]

And I have to say this: A water park for convention guests? Hot holy mother of mud, that's ill-advised. For so many reasons.

Other than seeing Rick in a swimsuit?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Found where the MMC is going to be held:

http://www.watersedgeinn.com/

It's right across the street from EF/WS.

What is your source on this? PM me if you can't say here.


He's gonna "con" people on Sunday??? Guess he's not a Christian this week, huh?


But that reminds me, FIVE DAYS till his non-alterable guest list and location for his "CON".

Wonder how many people have sent their non-refundable money orders to him?


Actually, he took teh April 15th date down.

Now it says:


There's no Guests & Events information currently available, but please check back again soon, as we update these pages regularly throughout the year with new information.

Uh-huh.

Rick has 2 guests currently. They are already on his MMC page.

Of course, I am ready to start a pool as to what date Rick cancels the MMC.

I am going with June 5th.

[DocAbsurd]

During the 2003 MMC, he couldn't afford to take us to a real restaurant or get us a decent hotel room. So instead of simply offering comfortable lodging and edible meals, he's upping the ante with a waterpark.

Baby-steps, Moby. Secure a roach-free Motel 6 and the dining room at McDonald's before you offer Herkimer's Disney World.

If he were closer to Niagara Falls, he could take guests to Marineland and introduce them to family.

And he calls me delusional.




Doc 'And Here's My Uncle Shamu' Absurd

[Reverend Smooth]

The Defendant's appropriate new title: The Lesion Of Super Heroes.XD

textureThe rougher it is, the more satisfying it is.

[bluecove]

What is your source on this? PM me if you can't say here.

My source is Google. :) I looked up EF/WS, clicked on accommodations, found a place that has room for "conferences," and it turns out they're directly across from the water park. So, if the other info I've read here is correct, this is likely where he's having the con.

[Flamebird]

XD
The rougher it is, the more satisfying it is.


:eek: EEK! :eek:



Too kinky for me ;)

[DocAbsurd]

Gee, Rick and I were getting along so famously. I guess he didn't like my last remark about his "great" Small Press expose'. Tim use ICC why should he bully you out of it!

I thought you 2 were really communicating on a deeper level than Moby's usually accustomed to:

'How did he lie, Rick?'

'Poopy-head! Delusions!'

'Really, Rick, when did Tim lie?'

'Dixon! Hate-group! Caca!'

'Do you have an example of how he lied?'

'Crumb-catcher! Knee-deep! Wee-wees!'

You could hear the screws loosening.

Thanks for sticking up for me, Lance, especially since I wasn't allowed in his 'blowhards only' club.

[Matt Doc Martin]

My source is Google. :) I looked up EF/WS, clicked on accommodations, found a place that has room for "conferences," and it turns out they're directly across from the water park. So, if the other info I've read here is correct, this is likely where he's having the con.

Ok...Sounds like good detective work to me!:)

Of course, Rick could be holding it at Bellevue.

They have Jello on Saturdays!

[CutterMike]

XD
The rougher it is, the more satisfying it is.

Ya know... ANYPLACE that I could go with this would b *SO* wrong...!

[KevinTBrown]

The Defendant's appropriate new title: The Lesion Of Super Heroes.

I think the full title is actually Stuporboy & The Lesion Of Super Heroes.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I have 1 eye functioning right now. As a kid I ran into a table corner and busted my eyebrow open (yes I did a blad job at an early age :p ) . I got some stitches there and the end effect is I turned that eye off for good I suppose.

Eye doctors told me had I underwent surgery I could "perhaps" turn that eye on . But its never worked anyhow and its rare it would flick on. One doctor said that if something happened to my good eye , the bad one could flick on.

I've never had 2 eye-d vision like many. I long accepted it and never complained or anything when I worked , played football with the other kids....ect ect. This is all thru school , graduating . I never really used it as an excuse on things.

[KevinTBrown]

My source is Google. :) I looked up EF/WS, clicked on accommodations, found a place that has room for "conferences," and it turns out they're directly across from the water park. So, if the other info I've read here is correct, this is likely where he's having the con.

Has anyone, oh I don't know, actually called this place to find out if there actually IS a convention scheduled?? And, if so, how the hell did Olney pony up the money for the down payment?

[Reverend Smooth]

XD;;; I knew it'd sound wrong, but.


But its never worked anyhow and its rare it would flick on. One doctor said that if something happened to my good eye , the bad one could flick on.
I wonder if there's any kind of exercises that could be done to try to rewire visual signals back, since the doctors said the potential is there...

[bluecove]

Ok...Sounds like good detective work to me!:)

Thanks!

Of course, it helps that I live in Upstate/Western NY, so the area isn't totally unfamiliar. (Our local channels run commercials for EF/WS CONSTANTLY during the summer.)

And personally, I think it's a terrible idea. He'd be better off holding the con at a Holiday Inn-type hotel in Syracuse or Utica rather than a resort area.

If he really intended to hold a con, that is. ;)

[JTPencils]

At a water park, no less. Rick told Fin that Saturday he was taking the 'guests' to a water theme park across from the hotel, then the 'con' would be on Sunday...

The sewage treatment plant is now a water park?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

XD;;; I knew it'd sound wrong, but.


I wonder if there's any kind of exercises that could be done to try to rewire visual signals back, since the doctors said the potential is there...

Of course there was one who gave me an eye patch to place over my good eye and try to push the bad one. I got kinda tired of bumping into every object as a kid though. I kept the eye patch and do my Snake Plissken impression at times : "Call me Snake " .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckvDo2JHB7o

I miss my long hair. It and the eye patch , plus rough beard made me a bad ass Snake Plissken though. Damn....

[TomStillwell]

At a water park, no less. Rick told Fin that Saturday he was taking the 'guests' to a water theme park across from the hotel, then the 'con' would be on Sunday...

What? No pony ride?

[Reverend Smooth]

I miss my long hair. It and the eye patch , plus rough beard made me a bad ass Snake Plissken though. Damn....That's so awesome. XD

[OzBat!]

Other than seeing Rick in a swimsuit?
MY EYEEEES! MY EYEEEES! THEY BURRRRRRNSS!

You bastard! Now I've got to scrub my brain with a brillo pad!

[wishlish]

Found where the MMC is going to be held:

http://www.watersedgeinn.com/

It's right across the street from EF/WS.

My sarcasm radar's a bit faulty tonight, so I have to ask: Is this for real?

If so, who wants to call the hotel and tell them what they're in for?

[TomStillwell]

My sarcasm radar's a bit faulty tonight, so I have to ask: Is this for real?

If so, who wants to call the hotel and tell them what they're in for?

Why bother? It's not like he's actually going to hold the con.

[wishlish]

I totally missed the fact that an hour had passed between posts. Sorry.

Damn Puzzle Quest for the Nintendo DS...if you actually value your time, STAY AWAY FROM THIS GAME. Imagine Magic the Gathering mixed with Bejeweled.

I've been on morphine this year. My body got so used to the stuff that when my scrip ran out, I hallucinated for a few days. THAT WAS LESS ADDICTIVE.

Seriously, great game, but it's crack. A few hours ago, I helped one of my party eat a statue, and then a fire elemental. He likes to eat weird things. The writers are nuts. Not Olney Nuts, but Douglas Adams Nuts.

[wishlish]

Why bother? It's not like he's actually going to hold the con.

True, but he might have them hold the room for his lawyers, unicorns, and other imaginary friends, and the hotel might prefer to have...you know...PAYING clients instead.

[OzBat!]

Ringing around is going to be a fruitless exercise. I honestly don't believe he's booked a venue yet... unless his definition of "booked" is walked around and had a look at it, maybe spoken to the desk clerk and checked if those dates sound okay. No money will have changed hands yet. Which makes it all the easier to claim when cancelling the event, that the venue had a "scheduling conflict" that "could not be resolved", "at the last moment".

[THEDOC]

I thought you 2 were really communicating on a deeper level than Moby's usually accustomed to:

'How did he lie, Rick?'

'Poopy-head! Delusions!'

'Really, Rick, when did Tim lie?'

'Dixon! Hate-group! Caca!'

'Do you have an example of how he lied?'

'Crumb-catcher! Knee-deep! Wee-wees!'

You could hear the screws loosening.

Thanks for sticking up for me, Lance, especially since I wasn't allowed in his 'blowhards only' club.

I don't know why I could post, it was public at the time I guess. Now I willl never know what his answers would had been.
Keep up the fight Tim ICC is yours and you will do great things with it.

[CutterMike]

True, but he might have them hold the room for his lawyers, unicorns, and other imaginary friends, and the hotel might prefer to have...you know...PAYING clients instead.

While I could be wrong, I don't *think* that that's neccessary - I haven't been on the site planning for a Con, but for a new event won't most places ask for either financial/professional references or cash upfront in the form of a large deposit to book and the rest by some date before the event?

Rick? Pay upfront?

[Danny Donovan]

MY EYEEEES! MY EYEEEES! THEY BURRRRRRNSS!

You bastard! Now I've got to scrub my brain with a brillo pad!



See what happens when I have a bad day? Australians have to pay the price. See what you've done universe?

lol.

[Inkpot1965]

No. It's not normal.c

I'm just color retarded. If I have a hundred colors to work with, I can't pick the colors I want. But if you give me four colors, I can mix and match and it turns out right. Too many color choices confuse me. Maybe that's why 98% of what I do is B&W.

[OzBat!]

draws up $50 in a cheque facsimile of many, many, many sparkly colours

There ya go!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ringing around is going to be a fruitless exercise. I honestly don't believe he's booked a venue yet... unless his definition of "booked" is walked around and had a look at it, maybe spoken to the desk clerk and checked if those dates sound okay. No money will have changed hands yet. Which makes it all the easier to claim when cancelling the event, that the venue had a "scheduling conflict" that "could not be resolved", "at the last moment".

I take this as a future answer sadly. Had he honestly didn't try to take over the World of comics and all , he may have had a decent business. I posted back ...way back days ago that his Tales of the Spooky #2 could have been decent.

Rick if your reading this , the days of a Spawn like event , where that comic sold over a million copies will not happen with you. Thats a delusion you may have came to that you could sell a million copies , pay everyone off and then make Tightlip battle Image for 3rd in market share but thats just it....a DELUSION.

Civil War just moved over 240,000 copies nearly a month. Thats considered a huge success now. Could you do CW numbers ? No ...your an indie. Thats the truth , your a small time operator . I'm sure Tom Stillwell doesn't put out Honor Brigade (gotta pull it when I get my moving done ) epxecting 100,000 copies a month (even though he'd love that , who wouldn't ? :p )

Had you started small ....perhaps with 1 book , put it out ...learned the business really well , maybe you could possibly have a line of books down the road. Its just that you odds are you wanted to be a huge name in the industry and you over extended yourself and don't see a way out.

[Richard Sullivan]

Mighty Mini Con up for auction?

http://www.nyebid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?category=21201&item=1177458996

[Flamebird]

Mighty Mini Con up for auction?

http://www.nyebid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?category=21201&item=1177458996

Oh my God, That is TOO fuckin funny, for words.

Hey someone should contact "the dupe", er Dube and find out if he paid for his trip to the "con" yet! :D

Or tell rick that someone named "rusty"(now who could that be), is selling HIS convention.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Oh my God, That is TOO fuckin funny, for words.

Hey someone should contact "the dupe", er Dube and find out if he paid for his trip to the "con" yet! :D

Or tell rick that someone named "rusty"(now who could that be), is selling HIS convention.

I wonder what will happen if someone bids a buck ? You can own the Mighty Mini-Con for a buck ! Gail heres your chance to own the Con by all rights. :p

[Gail Simone]

(And Larry and Misty do awesome jobs, so.)

Larry's right.

I'm legally blind, and can't see all of my monitor at once. So I work with my nose up to the screen in six-inch increments or so, and just scroll the image or move my head or the laptop to see more. If I want to read a website, I just do a good imitation of a turtle. I can't sit up for more than ten minutes at a time without fainting, so I work from my bed with a laptop.

I don't want to hear about Olney's supposed disabilities, especially pstensible adrenal issues. I have practically no adrenal function, have memory loss, can't even remember my way around the block, but I can work, I can write, and I can remember to pay my bills and my artists. The only thing that ever stops me from working is stuff like vomiting blood or an inability to move my limbs, and trust me, I intend to buy the tech, when it's affordable, to be able to move a cursor with one's eyes so I can work that way, too.

Larime types, writes, draws, and plays piano with a stick in his mouth, because he has very little use of his limbs. He's working towards getting licensed to do real estate. I've seen him go to work in 120-degree weather, come home in agony, and then go back the next day, to put food on the table... and then go out and coach kids for the local little league football (or whatever it's called). And he never complained. (This was before I got really ill, he has to stay closer to home now in case something, uh, unexpected happens to me.)

If you are disabled and you have ambition, you will, despite the very real pain, discomfort, stress, depression, and so on, do your best and excel. You may want to give up, you may think you'll never make it, you may spend many anguished days and nights, but you will nonetheless claw your way to whatever success you can get and you will do your damndest to keep it.

You will NOT make excuses and fuck others over (and say your talent is limited). That is not part of being disabled, that's part of being a lazy jerk. Disabled or not, responsible adults do their best.




May I just say the reason we don't treat either one of you guys any differently is because we're so fucking in awe of you both and are afraid to sound like idiots?

:)

Seriously. Jesus Christ, if that doesn't make you want to sit down and CREATE something, I don't know what does.

Next person says they have creative plans but can't follow through because they're SO BUSY gets a beatin'!

Gail

[OzBat!]

Whoever buys it will probably inherit all its unpaid bills, so NO WAY JOSE!

And this man wanted to sell millions of copies of his comics? He really is a pathetic huckster, all he's done is copy in the MMC website details and it isn't clear if you're buying a ticket or the event itself...

[OzBat!]

Next person says they have creative plans but can't follow through because they're SO BUSY gets a beatin'!I have HUGE creative plans! I just don't know what they are yet. When I work out if that's because of paralysis-inducing terror or total energy-draining lethargy, I'll let you know!

Or not.

Hey gail, are you coming to Supanova Brisbane or Sydney?

[Flamebird]

Why in the name of all that's Unholy would anyone want it anyway?


Can you imagine trying to book guests?:eek:

[Danny Donovan]

Mighty Mini Con up for auction?

http://www.nyebid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?category=21201&item=1177458996

You do know that NYEbid was, according to his MiniCon Myspace a "partner" in this years Mighty Mini Con.

Seriously, is he REALLY trying to sell a "convention" for $1,000? What is he selling? The I.P. for "The Mighty Mini Con?" for one, it's not worth a dollar for all it's been associated with, and for two, IF SOMEONE WAS GOING TO START THEIR OWN CONVENTION WHY WOULD THEY BUY YOURS?

Seriously. We have not yet run out of convention names THAT quickly.

Now if anyone wants me I'm going to start planning my own show The Intense Imaginary Con.

Who wants to be my guest of honor? "Gail?" her crumb catcher buddies? :p

My con is going to be so amazing, that you can only witness it through the power of mental thinking! Think of it, it's the worlds largest comic con that exists completely within the collective unconcious!

Now shower me with praise and money! I am a revolutionary figure in comics!

meh. I need sleep. Prepare for a sucky day tomorrow. lol.

[Reverend Smooth]

Seriously. Jesus Christ, if that doesn't make you want to sit down and CREATE something, I don't know what does.

*^^* Thank you very much.

At the risk of sounding very self-pitying, I'm glad it helps others feel creative, if it does. I'd feel more creative if the offers of comic work lately did not consist of backend on projects without even a publisher or, wow, twenty whole bucks a page, neither of which can replace the income I make doing mind-numbingly tedious cgi stuff.

Sorry. :/

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You do know that NYEbid was, according to his MiniCon Myspace a "partner" in this years Mighty Mini Con.

Seriously, is he REALLY trying to sell a "convention" for $1,000? What is he selling? The I.P. for "The Mighty Mini Con?" for one, it's not worth a dollar for all it's been associated with, and for two, IF SOMEONE WAS GOING TO START THEIR OWN CONVENTION WHY WOULD THEY BUY YOURS?

Seriously. We have not yet run out of convention names THAT quickly.

Now if anyone wants me I'm going to start planning my own show The Intense Imaginary Con.

Who wants to be my guest of honor? "Gail?" her crumb catcher buddies? :p

My con is going to be so amazing, that you can only witness it through the power of mental thinking! Think of it, it's the worlds largest comic con that exists completely within the collective unconcious!

Now shower me with praise and money! I am a revolutionary figure in comics!

meh. I need sleep. Prepare for a sucky day tomorrow. lol.

Book me please....I have no comics credits and can just regale you all with stories of my awesome conquests like Trish Startus , Jamie Pressly and any other hot chick I can think of !

[Howler]

Mighty Mini Con up for auction?

http://www.nyebid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?category=21201&item=1177458996

I followed the link and the seller "Rusty" is listed in the About Me page as the owner of NY Ebid. So I went to the message board for NY Ebid to see if I could find more information.

There is a total of 7 members, Rusty was the 5th to join. Admin was first. Guess who the second person was? Some guy named "Hawkeye of Mohawk" It couldn't be, could it? *checks url of Hawkeye's avatar*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/hawkeye2.jpg

Add another alias to Rick's long list of names.

[Darediva]

Yep, among the fine things you can buy on NYEBID are various Swiss Army knives that were confiscated from people at the airport! Wonder where all your stuff goes that you can't take on the plane? :p

[Gail Simone]

I followed the link and the seller "Rusty" is listed in the About Me page as the owner of NY Ebid. So I went to the message board for NY Ebid to see if I could find more information.

There is a total of 7 members, Rusty was the 5th to join. Admin was first. Guess who the second person was? Some guy named "Hawkeye of Mohawk" It couldn't be, could it? *checks url of Hawkeye's avatar*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/hawkeye2.jpg

Add another alias to Rick's long list of names.


I don't know why, but this is the funniest thing I've heard all month.

I am DYING.

Gail

[Darediva]

Well, Hawkeye couldn't get any respect at ebay with minus two for a rating there, so he's gone over to help create a *new* fantastic online auction site. I'm rolling in the aisle with this one.

[Reverend Smooth]

If he spent half as much time working as he did implementing all these bullshit scams, he'd've had plenty of money to pay y'all by now.

[Kurt Busiek]

Rick told Fin that Saturday he was taking the 'guests' to a water theme park across from the hotel, then the 'con' would be on Sunday...

There's a local con promoter out here, Richard Finn, who runs a one-day show, and takes out-of-town guests out to do something memorable the previous day -- I've gone along on rafting trips, balloon rides, paddlewheeler tours, trips to vintage aircraft museums and more.

His rationale for this is that sitting around in a convention center basement signing your name a lot may be what you signed up for, but it's not the most exciting way to spend a day. So he wants his out-of-town guests to enjoy the weekend, go home and tell all their local colleagues, "Man, if Richard Finn ever invites you to a show, go! We went up in a balloon!" Or whatever the activity was.

It makes for an enjoyable trip.

kdb

[Kurt Busiek]

The Defendant's appropriate new title: The Lesion Of Super Heroes.

He can't have that, either. Scott McCloud and I created the Lesion of Super-Heroes back in high school, including Strapping Lad, Whipping Boy, Boomerang Broad, Furniture Chap, Kid Abattoir, Prince Spaghetti, Gas Giant and many more.

kdb

[Reverend Smooth]

...'Kid Abbatoir'. XD XD XD

[TonyIsabella]

I should be sleeping. I have to get up in a few hours to make breakfast and pack lunches for my kids. I have to write some columns. But there's just so much going on.

Joanne...could you (in e-mail, if you prefer) talk me through how I go about asking MySpace to get the Vile One to take my photo off his pages?

I wrote about Ghost Rider and Gary Friedrich's lawsuit in Wednesday's TOT, mostly because I'm bone-tired of ill-informed pundits making comments like...

"He's greedy!"

"How come he didn't sue before the movie was made?"

"Work-for-hire!"

You can read the column at:

http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/tony

I'm half-expecting a subpoena from either Marvel or Gary. For that matter, it's possible I'll be called on to testify in two other potential lawsuits. Such an interesting life I lead.

Neither of those lawsuits have anything to do with Olney. The shock of him actually filing a lawsuit would probably give me a stroke. As I recently said, he's all hat and no cattle...and he doesn't even have a hat.

Is that auction for real? I thought it was a clever bit of satire.

On my presidential poll...I will probably be running it every couple months as candidates are added or drop out. I'm always open to suggestions as to who else should be on the list of choices, though I'm limited to 20 choices for any question.

I toyed with doing a question as to which comics creators you would vote for president. Might still do that one. Suggestions welcome.

What should I be reading and reviewing in my columns?

Why do people ask me why I haven't reviewed their books when they haven't sent them to me? Or at least ask if someone else has sent them to me?

Should I grow my hair long enough to have a ponytail?

Should I then mock those in the industry who can't do that?

Why am I asking you?

I'm going to give sleep another chance. Failing that, I will patrol the streets of Medina guarding against evil.

Tony "Who needs drugs?" Isabella

[Reverend Smooth]

Goseepies. :P

[PatrickG]

The sad part is, a lot of people, including many of the people he's stiffed, would have accepted a back-end deal if he had been honest with them from the start. There are a lot of indy comics publishers doing exactly that. Instead of promising stuff he can't deliver, he could have simply told the truth. Why is that so hard?

I hear this a lot but I've never been able to negotiate one.

I've found artists who will work for cheap with no backend deal but never an artist who will go for an all (or mostly) backend deal.

It doesn't excuse deception either way.

If I can't afford to pay, I don't contract the service.

There can be snags.

If he were publishing several books and his sales projections were off for one book and he lost his shirt, I could see some unpaid bills.

But you don't handle those the way he did.

If there was a real cashflow problem, the way to go IMO is to suspend any services or agreements you have. Tell people there's no money and work out a plan to pay for what's been done.

Beyond the deception, this guy has unrealistic expectations for an indy.

That said, isn't his debt load something like $100k?

Because if I had that amount of money to blow on a comic, I could reasonably expect to put out around 25 comics, sticking with new talent.

And if the goal were to establish a property (which would be my goal), I could reasonably count on enough revenue (NOT profit) to go to 50 issues. And depending on page rates and some discount services, I might -- MIGHT -- make it to 50 issues without selling a comic.

So if I WAS prepared to lose a hundred thousand (and, honestly, I think a guy like Olney should expect to lose money for a few years), then my personal strategy would not be to rack up a bill like that on a book or two all at once.

I'd launch one monthly and make a commitment to keep the book going for 50 issues.

'Cause, honestly, I think one factor that hurts both indy projects and new books from DC or Marvel is anxiety about how long they'll last.

And a hundred grand would be easier to pay out over four years.

And you'd actually get a good track record putting out a monthly and paying creators for it.

Whereas he seems to think he can blow his load on one or two books and sell on par with a large publishing house.

The trickiest part with Olney is separating the delusion from the deception.

[MacQuarrie]

*^^* Thank you very much.

At the risk of sounding very self-pitying, I'm glad it helps others feel creative, if it does. I'd feel more creative if the offers of comic work lately did not consist of backend on projects without even a publisher or, wow, twenty whole bucks a page, neither of which can replace the income I make doing mind-numbingly tedious cgi stuff.

Sorry. :/
It's like I once told Kurt, every time I look at his work I'm overcome by shame. The fact that he has to work so damn hard at it, drawing with his frigging teeth, and he does it anyway, while I can drew with ease (and not as well) and I'm too damn lazy to do it, that's just disgraceful.

People like you force people like me to confront the fact of how much we could accomplish if we were willing to apply even a fraction of the effort you do. Your very existence screams "no more excuses! Shut the hell up and draw already!"

Thank you for that.

[MacQuarrie]

I followed the link and the seller "Rusty" is listed in the About Me page as the owner of NY Ebid. So I went to the message board for NY Ebid to see if I could find more information.

There is a total of 7 members, Rusty was the 5th to join. Admin was first. Guess who the second person was? Some guy named "Hawkeye of Mohawk" It couldn't be, could it? *checks url of Hawkeye's avatar*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/hawkeye2.jpg

Add another alias to Rick's long list of names.

I did a GoDaddy WHOIS search on the site when I saw it announced on the MMC page last week, found Rusty's e-mail and sent him the standard warning. No response.

[MacQuarrie]

Neither of those lawsuits have anything to do with Olney. The shock of him actually filing a lawsuit would probably give me a stroke. As I recently said, he's all hat and no cattle...and he doesn't even have a hat.
He's got one of those ginormous foam rubber hats they sell at the county fair. He fished it out of a dumpster.

[MacQuarrie]

I hear this a lot but I've never been able to negotiate one.

I've found artists who will work for cheap with no backend deal but never an artist who will go for an all (or mostly) backend deal.
There's only two ways to go about it.

1. You and the artist have to come up with the idea together.

2. You have to find an artist who has an idea for a series and agree to write it.

The artist is going to be putting in a LOT more time and effort than you are, so he's only going to take a back-end deal on a project he personally has a passion for, either his own idea or a joint collaboration.

[PatrickG]

There's only two ways to go about it.

1. You and the artist have to come up with the idea together.

2. You have to find an artist who has an idea for a series and agree to write it.

The artist is going to be putting in a LOT more time and effort than you are, so he's only going to take a back-end deal on a project he personally has a passion for, either his own idea or a joint collaboration.

See... That makes more sense. It's starting to seem to me that the real trick (or one real trick) is to be a writer in demand with artists rather than vice versa.

Among other things, a writer seems more likely to walk away with SOME money (even if it's a token dollar) if they're the party being wooed.

It's easier for an artist to compensate a writer than it is for a writer to compensate an artist given that writing can be substantially less time consuming.

[Reverend Smooth]

It's like I once told Kurt, every time I look at his work I'm overcome by shame. The fact that he has to work so damn hard at it, drawing with his frigging teeth, and he does it anyway, while I can drew with ease (and not as well) and I'm too damn lazy to do it, that's just disgraceful.

People like you force people like me to confront the fact of how much we could accomplish if we were willing to apply even a fraction of the effort you do. Your very existence screams "no more excuses! Shut the hell up and draw already!"

Thank you for that.
A lot of people just get annoyed at perceived drama-whoreness or attention-grabbing, and others just don't like to acknowledge such things in general, so... I'm honored that you think so, thank you. (I'm really blushing now.)

I also didn't mean to put myself or anyone else up on any kind of pedestal, so I apologise if I did. Lord knows there are days that I'm all emo and rail about the unfairness of life and just go back to bed, or that I lose my temper at being incapable of working as fast as I'd like to sometimes... I just get pissed off at healthy people who try to pass off their laziness as a disability while I and others have to eke out every last thing we get (and I do NOT get any governmental assistance whatsoever, if it wasn't for royalty checks...).

I apologise for my shitty mood, too. I've been pretty emo tonight, since my gi tract seems inclined to slough off its lining and I can hardly eat anything.

[Flamebird]

Goseepies. :P

Good Idea.


Nighty-Night!


*zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *

[Howler]

Insomnia sucks let me tell you. However finding this is worth the yawns tomorrow afternoon.

Rick is using another charity to promote his convention. I found this.

http://www.aboutus.org/MightyMinIcon.com
The Mighty Mini-Con is a comic book convention presented by the Organized Readers of Comics Associated in upstate New York, Ilion, featuring comics retailers, creators, artists, small press publishers and fun. Proceeds from the Gala Comics and Collectible Auction benefit ORCA and the Mohawk Chapter of the Make A Wish Foundation.


I viewed the html for the mightyminicon page and sure enough as keywords he has, "Make A Wish foundation benefit charity"

If you google "Make-A-Wish Foundation + Mohawk New York", his con comes up as the first two results.

The website for Make-A-Wish in his area is http://www.makeawishcny.org/

I'm sure someone there would love to hear that they can expect some money from Rick in the near future. Unless of course he is *gasp* lying about his intentions.

[OzBat!]

The history for that page shows it was created or last updated on 27 December 2006. It was approximately a week later he had his first major meltdown here at CBR and everything hit the fan with his other charity claims.

[JTPencils]

Insomnia sucks let me tell you. However finding this is worth the yawns tomorrow afternoon.

Rick is using another charity to promote his convention. I found this.

http://www.aboutus.org/MightyMinIcon.com
The Mighty Mini-Con is a comic book convention presented by the Organized Readers of Comics Associated in upstate New York, Ilion, featuring comics retailers, creators, artists, small press publishers and fun. Proceeds from the Gala Comics and Collectible Auction benefit ORCA and the Mohawk Chapter of the Make A Wish Foundation.


I viewed the html for the mightyminicon page and sure enough as keywords he has, "Make A Wish foundation benefit charity"

If you google "Make-A-Wish Foundation + Mohawk New York", his con comes up as the first two results.

The website for Make-A-Wish in his area is http://www.makeawishcny.org/

I'm sure someone there would love to hear that they can expect some money from Rick in the near future. Unless of course he is *gasp* lying about his intentions.

I doubt he's lying... it's just that he's supporting his OWN wishes.

"I wish I could write competently."

"I wish I never pissed off Matt Doc Martin."

"I wish I could keep on conning up and coming artists, and NEVER have to pay a dime for my pathetic attempt at comic stardom."

"I wish I had a new Ben Grimm T shirt."

"I wish my threats of leggal actions actually scared people like they used to. Damn inconvenient when you're found to be a bullshit artist of a low caliber."

"I wish I had never brought pro's on board... because of them... I've truly earned my status of most hated man in (near) comics... my anonymity is shot... should have just stuck to unknowns!! Dammit!"


With all those wishes, he better raise GOBS of money at the soon to be forgotten (if actually held) con.

[JTPencils]

Eek. Double post. Apologies. Move Along Now... nuffin' to see here mate!

[OzBat!]

On the plus side, Rick revisited his Yahoo 360 blog (http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-0LMLq9s.aaVH3tgRU_45xw4-?cq=1) a couple of days ago! This site is more low key, he's only added a couple of blog entries over the past 18 months or so. Still, it started with the infamous Ric Olie claim, complete with a pic of the action figure!! And now he's jumped on board with just a link to the Johnny Hart RIP story.

If he's thinking of refurbishing this site, I wonder how long that action figure bit is going to last?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Insomnia sucks let me tell you. However finding this is worth the yawns tomorrow afternoon.

Rick is using another charity to promote his convention. I found this.

http://www.aboutus.org/MightyMinIcon.com
The Mighty Mini-Con is a comic book convention presented by the Organized Readers of Comics Associated in upstate New York, Ilion, featuring comics retailers, creators, artists, small press publishers and fun. Proceeds from the Gala Comics and Collectible Auction benefit ORCA and the Mohawk Chapter of the Make A Wish Foundation.


I viewed the html for the mightyminicon page and sure enough as keywords he has, "Make A Wish foundation benefit charity"

If you google "Make-A-Wish Foundation + Mohawk New York", his con comes up as the first two results.

The website for Make-A-Wish in his area is http://www.makeawishcny.org/

I'm sure someone there would love to hear that they can expect some money from Rick in the near future. Unless of course he is *gasp* lying about his intentions.


I will be contacting them, along with forwarding them the info I have on the St Jude thing.


You lose, Rick.

[Gail Simone]

There's a local con promoter out here, Richard Finn, who runs a one-day show, and takes out-of-town guests out to do something memorable the previous day -- I've gone along on rafting trips, balloon rides, paddlewheeler tours, trips to vintage aircraft museums and more.

His rationale for this is that sitting around in a convention center basement signing your name a lot may be what you signed up for, but it's not the most exciting way to spend a day. So he wants his out-of-town guests to enjoy the weekend, go home and tell all their local colleagues, "Man, if Richard Finn ever invites you to a show, go! We went up in a balloon!" Or whatever the activity was.

It makes for an enjoyable trip.

kdb

Richard's another guy who gets the details right and makes sure the convention is fun and enjoyable for everyone. It's a very small con, but it does what it does flawlessly.

Richard's a good guy.

Gail

[Cam63]

You lose, Rick.

Again !?

Is that a pattern formation I see ?

[Cam63]

You're spot on Cam!

Too roight, me old China !

Too ROIGHT !

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

A lot of people just get annoyed at perceived drama-whoreness or attention-grabbing, and others just don't like to acknowledge such things in general, so... I'm honored that you think so, thank you. (I'm really blushing now.)

I also didn't mean to put myself or anyone else up on any kind of pedestal, so I apologise if I did. Lord knows there are days that I'm all emo and rail about the unfairness of life and just go back to bed, or that I lose my temper at being incapable of working as fast as I'd like to sometimes... I just get pissed off at healthy people who try to pass off their laziness as a disability while I and others have to eke out every last thing we get (and I do NOT get any governmental assistance whatsoever, if it wasn't for royalty checks...).

I apologise for my shitty mood, too. I've been pretty emo tonight, since my gi tract seems inclined to slough off its lining and I can hardly eat anything.

You don't put yourself on any pedestal. But I can say it's quite inspiring to see it. I wish I could find a way to take all your pain away, if I had my way I'd do it. But in spite of all the hardships you endure you work your ass off and accomplish great things. There is no words for it. Same with people like Larry, Colleen. You guys show the strength of your own characters by standing firm in spite of it and accomplishing what you do. It's not a pedestal you walk on, but you guys are still great examples of what anyone can do no matter what obstacles or weaknesses we may have. And for that you have my respect and admiration.

This guy is now using a "sickness" or "illness" as an excuse makes me sick to my stomach. Disgust doesn't even begin to describe it. Considering what you and others face every day in comparison...you don't let your health be an excuse. He never should make any such claims.

Olney, the man you were in all likelihood would be ashamed of the man you've become.

JP

[Cam63]

Eh, it doesn't work that way for me.

I don't look at a picture and see it floating around, I will have a sensation and THEN see pictures. They are not necessarily pleasant, they are just there. And sometimes it can cause a sensation of vertigo or nausea. Some modern art that uses highly saturated color, I can't even look at. It makes me dizzy.

Let me put it this way: I thought everyone got angry and saw red.

When I get angry, I see a red curtain come down like a thin sheet of stained glass. Then I see white blotches like sparklers, and black blobs. I thought everyone did.

Now, it's not going to do anything to your life one way or another, except some people don't understand why non-representational art that uses highly saturated color bugs me. Just because I don't like it, that doesn't mean it's bad art. I am having a different reaction to it than other people are having.

It doesn't even seem as intense as I get older anyway. It's no big deal.

c

We'll be the judge of that.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I ask of anyone here...

If you see something Rick posted and want to share it here, PLEASE make a PDF of it first.

That way, if Rick tries "revisionist history" we already have a copy of it.

I have the last posts of his orcafresh blog, for example. Hell, I have a HUGE folder of crap he has posted throughout the years.

And if you want a copy of all I have, simply ask me.


Cutepdf is a fee program that works great.

Thank you all for your help. We WILL bring this fat bastard to justice!

[JTPencils]

Too roight, me old China !

Too ROIGHT !

Crikey! That's all I have to say about that!!

[Gail Simone]

In my opinion, under no circumstances should efforts of any kind be made to block or impede this 'convention,' should it actually take place. There will be people counting on this, people who are completely innocent of Rick's chicanery. It's one thing to let a creator know Rick Olney doesn't pay his debts, but another to try to get an event cancelled that some retailers, pros and readers may be depending on.

That's my opinion, anyway.

There's plenty of stuff to chew on here without it.

Gail

[Cam63]

From here on out, I am hereby considering my herpes a "learning disability."

(Just kidding about the herpes - yes, really! :))

We believe you.

*Steps backward*

[Cam63]

And I have to say this: A water park for convention guests? Hot holy mother of mud, that's ill-advised. For so many reasons.

The brewery was already booked.

[willtupper]

Hey!

*scratches incessantly* :p


We believe you.

*Steps backward*

[JTPencils]

And I have to say this: A water park for convention guests? Hot holy mother of mud, that's ill-advised. For so many reasons.

Are you trying to say that comics folks, with our glaringly white skin from no time spent outdoors, and that our superbly sculpted physiques (from take out and Chinese buffet indulgence) aren't welcome sights at a water park? Something wrong with comics folks in thongs frolicking in the water?? There's even a rumor that Cam and Jeff would shave their backs to attend if that's the case!!

Harumph! Elitist!!

[Cam63]

MY EYEEEES! MY EYEEEES! THEY BURRRRRRNSS!

You bastard! Now I've got to scrub my brain with a brillo pad!

*Scrubs up and takes a swig of VB*

Ready !

[Cam63]

Hey!

*scratches incessantly* :p

Not so much scratchin' !

...I'm tryin' to operate here !

[JTPencils]

Not so much scratchin' !

...I'm tryin' to operate here !

I thought you weren't board certified for surgery yet?

[wishlish]

There's only two ways to go about it.

1. You and the artist have to come up with the idea together.

2. You have to find an artist who has an idea for a series and agree to write it.

The artist is going to be putting in a LOT more time and effort than you are, so he's only going to take a back-end deal on a project he personally has a passion for, either his own idea or a joint collaboration.

If I remember correctly, Robert Kirkman puts out his books The Walking Dead and Invincible on a backend deal- only he's the one waiting for the backend (in his case, trades, merchandise, and movie rights). That arrangement always seemed to make sense. Writing a comic book certainly is less time-intensive than drawing the book, and by giving up his money on the monthly book, he can give an artist more money while the book's in its formative stage.

[wishlish]

A lot of people just get annoyed at perceived drama-whoreness or attention-grabbing, and others just don't like to acknowledge such things in general, so... I'm honored that you think so, thank you. (I'm really blushing now.)

I also didn't mean to put myself or anyone else up on any kind of pedestal, so I apologise if I did. Lord knows there are days that I'm all emo and rail about the unfairness of life and just go back to bed, or that I lose my temper at being incapable of working as fast as I'd like to sometimes... I just get pissed off at healthy people who try to pass off their laziness as a disability while I and others have to eke out every last thing we get (and I do NOT get any governmental assistance whatsoever, if it wasn't for royalty checks...).

I apologise for my shitty mood, too. I've been pretty emo tonight, since my gi tract seems inclined to slough off its lining and I can hardly eat anything.

Nothing wrong with getting a little Elmo every once in a while. He's so darn cute. Red fur, big nose, cute voice-

Oh, you said EMO.

Nothing wrong with that either. I studied economics once, and while life's pretty awesome from the macro view, it can suck every once in a while from the micro view. I get really cranky when my leg stiffens up, even though I'm much better than I was in December.

[wishlish]

"I wish I had a new Ben Grimm T shirt."



To be fair, who doesn't?

[JTPencils]

To be fair, who doesn't?

Honestly? Never had one... never missed it. Now... a classic look Batman logo shirt... now that would be cool. Had one as a kid... and I'd love to find one like it again. (Batman's head above the logo, cape surrounding the name... it was just classic looking to me. Then again, I also miss my Batman cutlery set I had as a youngun' so... )

[Cam63]

I thought you weren't board certified for surgery yet?

I don't need no stinkin' certificate !

...Now hold still, fucker !

[JTPencils]

I don't need no stinkin' certificate !

...Now hold still, fucker !

Ahhhhhhhhhhh Aussie medicine... it's a whole bold new frontier!

Next you guys' will try antibiotics!!

[Danny Donovan]

There's only two ways to go about it.

1. You and the artist have to come up with the idea together.

2. You have to find an artist who has an idea for a series and agree to write it.

The artist is going to be putting in a LOT more time and effort than you are, so he's only going to take a back-end deal on a project he personally has a passion for, either his own idea or a joint collaboration.

All my personal projects are on a back end deal basis. I've never had trouble getting the artists I want on the projects I am working on with that particular thing. However, I do make it as enticing as possible by doing my homework and laying out every bit of information I'd hit a publisher with.

Not just the story pitch but also the marketing thoughts and cross promotional ideas that I could do if it were picked up.

I don't get "yes"'s across the board. but I never have to settle for an artist that is below the quality of what I want.

And I DO need to get off my ass and put thought to paper for a few of them like JT, and get caught up with some other things I've unfortionately fell off the face of the earth on. ;)

[Cam63]

Ahhhhhhhhhhh Aussie medicine... it's a whole bold new frontier!

Next you guys' will try antibiotics!!

Shuddup while I lance the sore with a red hot poker.

[Kozemp]

Of course, I am ready to start a pool as to what date Rick cancels the MMC.

I am going with June 5th.

Can I take the under?

JLk
notorious gambler

[TomStillwell]

In my opinion, under no circumstances should efforts of any kind be made to block or impede this 'convention,' should it actually take place. There will be people counting on this, people who are completely innocent of Rick's chicanery. It's one thing to let a creator know Rick Olney doesn't pay his debts, but another to try to get an event cancelled that some retailers, pros and readers may be depending on.

That's my opinion, anyway.

There's plenty of stuff to chew on here without it.

Gail

That's my thought too.

Olney doesn't need any help botching things up. He'll be a complete failure on his own.

[THEDOC]

You do know that NYEbid was, according to his MiniCon Myspace a "partner" in this years Mighty Mini Con.

Seriously, is he REALLY trying to sell a "convention" for $1,000? What is he selling? The I.P. for "The Mighty Mini Con?" for one, it's not worth a dollar for all it's been associated with, and for two, IF SOMEONE WAS GOING TO START THEIR OWN CONVENTION WHY WOULD THEY BUY YOURS?

Seriously. We have not yet run out of convention names THAT quickly.

Now if anyone wants me I'm going to start planning my own show The Intense Imaginary Con.

Who wants to be my guest of honor? "Gail?" her crumb catcher buddies? :p

My con is going to be so amazing, that you can only witness it through the power of mental thinking! Think of it, it's the worlds largest comic con that exists completely within the collective unconcious!

Now shower me with praise and money! I am a revolutionary figure in comics!

meh. I need sleep. Prepare for a sucky day tomorrow. lol.

Is NY Ebid related to e-Bay?
"$Kids 10 and under free with paid adult! per child"
Is he selling children at his con? Better tell dateline.
Well since we are talking about cons I would like to have anyone here at next year's Jam to promote the heck out of Unscrewed.

[Blake Petit]

In my opinion, under no circumstances should efforts of any kind be made to block or impede this 'convention,' should it actually take place. There will be people counting on this, people who are completely innocent of Rick's chicanery. It's one thing to let a creator know Rick Olney doesn't pay his debts, but another to try to get an event cancelled that some retailers, pros and readers may be depending on.

That's my opinion, anyway.

There's plenty of stuff to chew on here without it.

Gail

I agree with you there, Gail. Unfortunately, I don't think that Rick will need any outside effort on our part to have this convention fall apart...

[TCJohnson]

You know, I think Olney should hire J-Bolt as an artist. That would just be beautiful

[Cam63]

Both need an English translator.

...I'll do it !

[JTPencils]

Both need an English translator.

...I'll do it !

But Cam, you don't speak English. You speak Aussie. Frig up the whole language... all those "our" words... like colour and such. Nothing right about that.

[DocAbsurd]

Thank you, everyone.

You don't realize what an inspiration it's been to read about how each of you climb over your hurdles to remain creative. And it's not a 'if they can be creative, I can be creative' sort of inspiration, but more along the lines of 'if they can manage to be creative, I'd damn well better stop making excuses'.

I don't have any real hardships, apart from events in my personal life. And that's probably the only reason I have for not being further along in my career than I am. My life ain't pittance compared to what you go through on a daily basis just to sit and draw or write.

You don't create despite your handicaps; you create because of them.

And that makes all the difference.

[Sarah Beach]

Inspirations indeed! Of course, it's hitting me right now since I'm in a mood for re-evaluating my current circumstances.

Beyond that....

You know, regarding the "Make a Wish" connection with the MMC, I think that might be a couple of years old. It's the "Ilion" connection. Wasn't that the intended location for one of the cancelled cons? I mean, the water park is at Old Forge. Is that near Ilion?

Just goes to show that he doesn't update his meta-codes any more than he updates anything else.

[bluecove]

You know, regarding the "Make a Wish" connection with the MMC, I think that might be a couple of years old. It's the "Ilion" connection. Wasn't that the intended location for one of the cancelled cons? I mean, the water park is at Old Forge. Is that near Ilion?

Ilion is near Utica. It's about an hour and a half from Old Forge, which is up in the Adirondack Mountain area.

[AIPman1]

OFF TOPiC, but because it was brought up-

I never looked into it as I was too young at the time to think of it as something medical and since I was a child, I've usually been able to control it but it's returned the past year. When ever I want to say the colour yellow, I say white, when I want to say white, I say Yellow.
Is that some sort of dyslexia?

isn't that just a Blonde thing?

[JTPencils]

isn't that just a Blonde thing?

Ooooooooo, I am SO not going to go there!!!

[AIPman1]

Ooooooooo, I am SO not going to go there!!!

Joanne will know I'm just kidding. Right Joanne? Right?????

[Coppervale Studio]

Finney got this in email last night...

************

From: "Rick Olney" <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com>
To: "Finney Gage" <randbrailways@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Carlos and James Owen
Every word you've typed to me in private email has been posted on CBR. Don't email me anymore.

*************

Well, Rick - you left little choice other than to have your words vetted and verified by other means, because you wouldn't back them up with references. After some discussion, Carlos and I decided that we'd repost your emails to Fin here on CBR, mostly because your ENTIRE approach to creators is: "Trust me - but don't tell anyone I said so."

If you think there was an ethical and or legal breach in our doing this - feel free to have your attorney contact me. Please.

[Coppervale Studio]

And incidentally, I'd like to back up everything Kurt and Gail said about Richard Finn.

As a convention organizer, he's up there with Shelton Drum. He took the whole group of guests all over Portland. We saw several landmarks, were fed until bursting, and he introduced me to the wonder that is Powell's..

...then spotted me some cash so I wouldn't have to walk away from a limited edition book by my favorite author.

Great, great guy.

[JTPencils]

Finney got this in email last night...

************

From: "Rick Olney" <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com>
To: "Finney Gage" <randbrailways@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Carlos and James Owen
Every word you've typed to me in private email has been posted on CBR. Don't email me anymore.

*************

Well, Rick - you left little choice other than to have your words vetted and verified by other means, because you wouldn't back them up with references. After some discussion, Carlos and I decided that we'd repost your emails to Fin here on CBR, mostly because your ENTIRE approach to creators is: "Trust me - but don't tell anyone I said so."

If you think there was an ethical and or legal breach in our doing this - feel free to have your attorney contact me. Please.

Geesh, I thought poor Fin had already gotten his "this is my LAST email to you, don't contact me anymore" message. Even THAT isn't a final word from YOR. He'll email ya whenever he damn well pleases. But you best not do the same!!! Cyberbullies!

Actually, it's fun to see when the Vile One contacts folks... it's almost like having him still here... without the stench.

[JTPencils]

Joanne will know I'm just kidding. Right Joanne? Right?????

Could just be me Ian, but I thinks I hear crickets!!!






















Nah... Joanne's got a good sense of humor. She'll understand totally. You DO have a nightlight don't you Ian?

[MacQuarrie]

In my opinion, under no circumstances should efforts of any kind be made to block or impede this 'convention,' should it actually take place. There will be people counting on this, people who are completely innocent of Rick's chicanery. It's one thing to let a creator know Rick Olney doesn't pay his debts, but another to try to get an event cancelled that some retailers, pros and readers may be depending on.

That's my opinion, anyway.

There's plenty of stuff to chew on here without it.

Gail
As the warrior said, "Never interfere with your adversary while he is engaged in destroying himself."

[rummblestrips]

Could just be me Ian, but I thinks I hear crickets!!!

Nah... Joanne's got a good sense of humor. She'll understand totally. You DO have a nightlight don't you Ian?

Those aren't crickets.
Those are my stiletto high heels and they're on their way to Ohio...
Nightlight won't save you, Ian.
Here's comes justice... CANADIAN STYLE!

-insert cartoon evil laugh here-

[Coppervale Studio]

Finney Gage has been booted from the Mohawk Valley Comic Victims Yahoo Group.

That leaves around five members: Rick's right hand; Rick's left hand; Rick's other left hand; Jason Dube; and that Dennis guy.

[TomStillwell]

Finney Gage has been booted from the Mohawk Valley Comic Victims Yahoo Group.

That leaves around five members: Rick's right hand; Rick's left hand; Rick's other left hand; Jason Dube; and that Dennis guy.

Well, it is a diverse group of comic book enthusiasts.

[singoalla]

It's a good thing Rick's got so many hands to keep him company, 'cos Barb's gonna be mighty pissed when all the people who won the lawsuits start to collect.

[generaljackcosmo]

Do we know what Olney actually does for a living? Or is he a full-time con artist?

By the way, hi Rick. Fuck you, pussy.

[Gail Simone]

I agree with you there, Gail. Unfortunately, I don't think that Rick will need any outside effort on our part to have this convention fall apart...

If that happens, it happens, but in no way should we be adding to hardships for creators or retailers who plan on attending.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

If that happens, it happens, but in no way should we be adding to hardships for creators or retailers who plan on attending.

Gail

Although you know it won't matter. Every single thing that goes wrong at the convention, we are going to be blamed for it. If it gets cancelled, it will be because of our interferance even if we do nothing.

Not that anybody but Dennis will listen.

[Gail Simone]

Although you know it won't matter. Every single thing that goes wrong at the convention, we are going to be blamed for it. If it gets cancelled, it will be because of our interferance even if we do nothing.

Not that anybody but Dennis will listen.

Yep, it's J-bolt syndrome.

But it's not blame I'm worried about, it's people getting hurt who committed no other crime than trusting Rick.

If he gets the con going, fine, good luck to the attendees.

Gail

[generaljackcosmo]

Although you know it won't matter. Every single thing that goes wrong at the convention, we are going to be blamed for it. If it gets cancelled, it will be because of our interferance even if we do nothing.

Not that anybody but Dennis will listen.

And you know what? The folks on this forum have tried to warn anyone and everyone who might have anything to do with this douche bag that they need to stay away from him. Anyone who's heard the warnings and plays along with him anyway...well, it isn't right to gloat over someone's misfortune (unless they're vile pieces of shit like Olney), but soon enough they'll be crawling onto this forum and apologizing to all of you for not listening to all the warnings.

That said, I would be extremely surprised if the MMC where not cancelled due to some "family illness" or other such "tragedy" that is bound to hit the Olney clan shortly before the con is set to take place.

[Coppervale Studio]

If that happens, it happens, but in no way should we be adding to hardships for creators or retailers who plan on attending.

Gail

Definitely. Especially in cases like with the guest who said he just wanted to keep his word by attending as he'd agreed to.

And one other comment: let Jason Dube off the hook, can we? (I'm referring to the 'dupe' nickname that's been attached here and there). It's pretty easy to get roped in by someone like Olney, but everyone has to learn at their own pace. For all we know, he's just trying to honor his word, too.

[NatGertler]

Anyone have a link to Finney's online samples?

[AIPman1]

Could just be me Ian, but I thinks I hear crickets!!!


Indeed!



Nah... Joanne's got a good sense of humor. She'll understand totally. You DO have a nightlight don't you Ian?

I don't think I'll get a hug next con we're both at...

[AIPman1]

Those aren't crickets.
Those are my stiletto high heels and they're on their way to Ohio...
Nightlight won't save you, Ian.
Here's comes justice... CANADIAN STYLE!

-insert cartoon evil laugh here-

aw, see...she's bringing over some of that Canadian beer...

uh...you can make fun of my bald spot if you want...

[Danny Donovan]

Is NY Ebid related to e-Bay?
"$Kids 10 and under free with paid adult! per child"
Is he selling children at his con? Better tell dateline.
Well since we are talking about cons I would like to have anyone here at next year's Jam to promote the heck out of Unscrewed.

Buy in bulk. Save on the shipping. You can build the things "My first sweatshop(tm)" let them learn the fun of subjegating others to their iron will. ;)


Those aren't crickets.
Those are my stiletto high heels and they're on their way to Ohio...
Nightlight won't save you, Ian.
Here's comes justice... CANADIAN STYLE!

-insert cartoon evil laugh here-

Oooh Canadian style justice! Does it involve a wolf named Diefenbaker?

And a kind apology for the bloody mess left on the floor? :p

lol.

ooh or are you going to get Shatner to sing the 7hr cut of Rocket Man on his lawn?

"I....THINK... it's... gonna...BE...a. long, long.... TIME..."

[GCom]

Geezum Crow!

I'm having a tough time keeping up with this thread. I insist on reading every page, so by those critria, this is time consuming. And I caught up, as a comics retailer, on a Wednesday.

I've got the Unscrewed "posters" printed out and up in my store. I can't do much, not being directly involved, but I will support where I can.


With Tolerance For The Little Guy Doing The Little Bit...

GCom

[JTPencils]

Those aren't crickets.
Those are my stiletto high heels and they're on their way to Ohio...
Nightlight won't save you, Ian.
Here's comes justice... CANADIAN STYLE!

-insert cartoon evil laugh here-

Ahhhhhhhhh OK. Canadian style justice. That's where they apologize profusely for having to hand you your ass.

(speaking of stern women in stilettos... ummm... why did I smile when I read that?)

[JTPencils]

Geezum Crow!

I'm having a tough time keeping up with this thread. I insist on reading every page, so by those critria, this is time consuming. And I caught up, as a comics retailer, on a Wednesday.

I've got the Unscrewed "posters" printed out and up in my store. I can't do much, not being directly involved, but I will support where I can.


With Tolerance For The Little Guy Doing The Little Bit...

GCom

Welcome GCom. It's a bit like a runaway train. You miss a day or two, you're suddenly fallen behind! And with that.. it's NOTHING like it was when The Vile One was actually HERE to stir up crap. Then you'd easily fall behind a good 20 pages or so, in an hour, never mind a night!!! So it's actually (believe it or not)... slowed down to a tolerable pace!

As for the Unscrewed! "posters"... I say (as one of the shafted), thanks... your contribution to getting the word out... is invaluable. Remember us also when the anthology comes out! (shameless plug) However, I WILL also tell you, that by posting them, you've probably just earned yourself a slot on the "leaggle hit list" of Sir Putrid. So don't be too surprised if and when you get your "notice" from him.

[TCJohnson]

Anyone have a link to Finney's online samples?

They are under pics on his myspace page.

[Flamebird]

If that happens, it happens, but in no way should we be adding to hardships for creators or retailers who plan on attending.

Gail

I agree in general,Gail, except that if he DOES get the con off the ground, he'll be doing it with the monies owed to all the folks here.

You know the ones that have ALREADY been screwed?

I say shut the vile pice of shit down in any LEAGGLE(or even legal) way possible. Save anyone else from getting screwed by him.



But maybe that's just me.