Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Calamas]

Oh! Mr. Isabella, just to let you know. I just bid on the complete 1977 run of Black Lightning. I'll know if a day if I got it. I look forward to reading them.
I apologize if this has been covered--big thread, to state the obvious--but did you get it. It’s worth it for #4 alone. In either case, it gives me a chance to publicly thank Mr. Isabella. How much does this particular issue mean to me? In a post written more than a year, I summed it up as best I could--although I mistakenly referenced it as #5. In a thread about your five favorite heroes, just skip to the paragraph labeled:

Black Lightning ( http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2467927&postcount=16)


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[TonyIsabella]

I apologize if this has been covered--big thread, to state the obvious--but did you get it. It’s worth it for #4 alone. In either case, it gives me a chance to publicly thank Mr. Isabella. How much does this particular issue mean to me? In a post written more than a year, I summed it up as best I could--although I mistakenly referenced it as #5. In a thread about your five favorite heroes, just skip to the paragraph labeled:

Black Lightning ( http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2467927&postcount=16)


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I'm touched. I have to disagree on one point. I think Black Lightning would have joined the original Outsiders.

Jeff Pierce is the last living member of his family. No brothers, uncles, aunts, cousins, no one. That's one of the reason I disliked Judd Winick giving him a niece on his side of the family. Well, that and her sleeping with that tramp Green Arrow.

Jeff builds families wherever he goes. It's a deep need within him. He's done it at every school he ever taught at and every community he's ever lived in. He did it with the original Outsiders. Given half a chance, he'll do it with the Justice League.

Tony

[Matt Doc Martin]

My source is taking some PDF's of Rick's MMC forums today and tomorrow.

Apparently, Rick went on a snipe hunt there...axed a couple of innocents.

Oops.

when I get the PDF's, I will toss up some screen prints. Pretty much the same clap trap he does everywhere else, but told to a rapt audience of about 3. And sadly, Jim Main IS one of them.

[Matt Doc Martin]

On Orcablowhard's blog:




MacQ,

Your apology is accepted. But understand that you went to lengths that you did in proving to yourself my veterans status. It isn't and wasn't my place to prove anything to you or that HATE group you belong to. I have never misrepresented one iota of my service in the Marine Corps.
And to clarify further, you stated, "albeit one with an utterly undistinguished record" on your CBR libel thread post. How you feel you are an authority on the differences between distinguished versus your intend slight -- when you needed help determining the criteria on the copy of NA Form 13164 regarding my service, is a huge mystery. Frankly, though it doesn't matter.

I wasn't going to respond to this, but I have to now thank you for making me aware that several of the information slots on that 13164 are either incorrect, or not listed at all. I'll be contacting my local Veterans' group and Congressman to get the corrections made.

My discharge was Honorable. I served overseas TDY to the MP detachment at Camp Hanson. I went through training there at NCO and recon camp. I also served as a guard at (the now gone) Camp Butler. Camp Hanson was actually a major supply hub then. Hence the overseas service FPO address. It was the returning point for EVERYTHING from Viet Nam. I was a chaser to Nam for four months. I'm not going to correct the missing or inaccurate entries here, because its fruitless. Your entire group swore up and down that I wasn't a Marine veteran. You called me names and acted pretty shamefully, in my opinion. Jim Richey is just a fruit loops shit house rat crazy as Martin Oakley. What pertinence does 9/22-27 have?

Anyway...

The post on SUPERHERONEWS was setting the stage for you to step forward and report what you had learned. And Jim, you didn't even scratch the surface in any respect. But obviously in your world and household an apology comes with slap.

On the matter of SUPERHERONEWS:

After Isabella started his libelous nonsense there (And Tony, I promise you you'll live to regret legally every feckin' word legally) I wrote to Rik Offenberger asking about the variety of *news* versus personal comment that his news service would tolerate. This was his reply to me:

Super Hero News Mar 23
to Rick Olney
date Mar 23, 2007 3:43 AM
subject Re: Question
mailed-by hotmail.com
Super Hero News is
"Comicbook news as it happens, also list members comments, from pros, fans and retailers."

I started the group and control the spam, but I don't control or approve content, it's an open forum and all members of six months or longer can post to the group. The six month thing is to control spam. You have been a member for 2 years and I have never said anything about any of your posts so it becomes hard to say something to anyone else. I do listen to complaints and will pass your concerns along to Tony and ask for his understanding in the matter. But I am not personally involved in the posting of any of Tony's messages and have no plans to change SHN from an open forum to a closed or moderated only forum.

So contrary to the pissin' contest by Tom Waltz and the person posting as "LoveToDrawComics@aol.com" over on SUPERHERONEWS -- I had every right to post the statement by Dennis Kininger, as it directly addresses the libelous, slanderous hate motivated posts around the Internet regarding your combined claims that I lied about my status as a Veteran. I'm not sure what you were doing in 1971 to 1975, but I know I was uncomfortable in serving and doing what I did.

There -- Now I'm going to address this nonsense about Tim Tobolski's claim that I called him. Another bogus lie!

Posted by orcafresh™, just another 'Old Salt' Marine on Saturday, April 07, 2007 at 4:52 PM
[Reply to this]


More bullshit from Olney. And now lying that he called and harassed Doc A.

You are a liar and a coward, Olney. And I will be sharing the story about you ALL OVER at CAPE.

And spreading Happy Meal bags around!

[TonyIsabella]

With the Vile One driving people away from Super Hero News in droves, he took the time to copy me on a note he sent to Tom Waltz. Again he makes with the impotent threats:



Mr. Waltz,

On the matter of SUPERHERONEWS:

After Isabella started his libelous nonsense there
(And Tony, I promise you you'll live to regret legally
every feckin' word legally) I wrote to Rik Offenberger
asking about the variety of *news* versus personal
comment that his news service would tolerate. This was
his reply to me:

Super Hero News Mar 23
to Rick Olney
date Mar 23, 2007 3:43 AM
subject Re: Question
mailed-by hotmail.com
Super Hero News is
"Comicbook news as it happens, also list members
comments, from pros, fans and retailers."

I started the group and control the spam, but I don't
control or approve content, it's an open forum and all
members of six months or longer can post to the group.
The six month thing is to control spam. You have been
a member for 2 years and I have never said anything
about any of your posts so it becomes hard to say
something to anyone else. I do listen to complaints
and will pass your concerns along to Tony and ask for
his understanding in the matter. But I am not
personally involved in the posting of any of Tony's
messages and have no plans to change SHN from an open
forum to a closed or moderated only forum.

So contrary to you asserting here that I was somehow
wrong, I wasn't. I had every right to post the
statement by Dennis Kininger, as it directly addresses
the libelous, slanderous hate motivated posts around
the Internet regarding claims that I lied about my
status as a United States Marine Corps Veteran. I'm
not sure what you were doing in 1971 to 1975, but I
know I was uncomfortable in serving and doing what I
did. But I did it. Honorably.

Semper Fi!

Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment



It'll be a while before I can repost this and his earlier threat to my message board and other venues. I'm on a deadline so tight that it's unlikely I'll have the time to write "Tony's Online Tips" columns for Monday and Tuesday this week. But I wanted to share this with the fine folks here.

I continue to be absolutely amazed this impotent, worthless creep thinks he scares me in any way, shape, or form.

Tony

[Matt Doc Martin]

I will be the first to admit:

Rick Olney...I hate you.

I think you are one of the lowest forms of life on this planet. I wish nothing but ill towards you. I hope you end up in prison for your actions.

Suffer, Rick. Suffer for a long time.

You will pay for your actions.

[OzBat!]

My source is taking some PDF's of Rick's MMC forums today and tomorrow.

Apparently, Rick went on a snipe hunt there...axed a couple of innocents.

Oops.

when I get the PDF's, I will toss up some screen prints. Pretty much the same clap trap he does everywhere else, but told to a rapt audience of about 3. And sadly, Jim Main IS one of them.
I have a pdf taken yesterday morning from his myspace blog with the axed rantings. You want it, PM me your email.

As for MacQ's apology, that was class. Rick, the only reason MacQ had to "go to such lengths" is because you refused to cough up any details at all. As for "such lengths", he did it under freedom of information channels that anybody can use. Not our fault that you're such a lying two-faced weasel that you can't recognise when the freeflow of information could actually work in your favour, as it has done in this instance.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I have a pdf taken yesterday morning from his myspace blog with the axed rantings. You want it, PM me your email.

As for MacQ's apology, that was class. Rick, the only reason MacQ had to "go to such lengths" is because you refused to cough up any details at all. As for "such lengths", he did it under freedom of information channels that anybody can use. Not our fault that you're such a lying two-faced weasel that you can't recognise when the freeflow of information could actually work in your favour, as it has done in this instance.

I may have them already, but I will certainly take them again

And while it works in his favor somewhat, it proves he still lied.

[Danny Donovan]

Um. Tom Waltz isn't as old as Rick is so I would assume in the 1970's he was still in high school.

Tom is a marine, a distinguished one at that. Currently heading up an entertainment company founded by other marines, called Charlie Foxtrot Entertainment.

Tom is a friend of mine, a good man, and in all respects what one thinks of when they think of a marine.

He'll give you a kick in the ass when you need it, he'll give you all the help in the world when you need that to. You could never question Tom's service.

[OzBat!]

I may have them already, but I will certainly take them again

And while it works in his favor somewhat, it proves he still lied.Sent! I certaintly wasn't going to draw attention to them without grabbing a permanent copy of them first, that way lies madness!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Now he has posted a "denial" of calling Doc A.

Bet he sweats bullets, praying the call can't be traced.

Rick: When will you allow me to comment on your blog? Or are you scared?

[Larry Dixon]

So, who here is going to be at the Pittsburgh Comicon? I ask, because with the way RO's acting, I'm sure he'll think he's safe to go there....

The Defendant conveys himself as a big time mover-and-shaker Public Figure. So simply follow him everywhere with a camera. Several people with cameras, if possible, shooting constantly. All the time. It's not stalking with a public figure in a public venue; it's journalism. -snicker-

Speaking of which, do you suppose anyone from an industry magazine, site or other news source could go visit The Defendant, in person, and take an unbiased interview? If The Defendant has such immunity and righteous power, it seems like telling his side of everything to an official source would be in The Defendant's best interests. Get it in print, to stand by in the eyes of the world, as it were. I'd like to see it.

[Coppervale Studio]

The Defendant conveys himself as a big time mover-and-shaker Public Figure. So simply follow him everywhere with a camera. Several people with cameras, if possible, shooting constantly. All the time. It's not stalking with a public figure in a public venue; it's journalism. -snicker-

Speaking of which, do you suppose anyone from an industry magazine, site or other news source could go visit The Defendant, in person, and take an unbiased interview? If The Defendant has such immunity and righteous power, it seems like telling his side of everything to an official source would be in The Defendant's best interests. Get it in print, to stand by in the eyes of the world, as it were. I'd like to see it.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!


HAHAHAH!!!!

...


Hahaha!!!


Oh, Lar... *sniff*


That was GREAT.

[colleen]

Wow. Sad.

Since he started out claiming he had served 7-8 years in the military (the story varied from post to post) and had actually served IN Viet Nam (and he didn't), it's now obvious why he didn't want his records released. He actually served almost exactly 3 years, never saw combat, and has a remarkably undistinguished service record.

He's simply been exaggerating his claims and didn't want anyone to know.

Well, there are a lot of potato peelers in the service who don't want their kiddies to know they didn't fight the Hun singlehanded during the war.

But since the internet is forever, there's one potato peeler who admits to paying for sex while keeping the world safe for democracy, and if that's the record he leaves, it's on his head and so be it.

Eh, I knew a guy who used to be in the National Guard that used to puff up his record all the time. Kept claiming he was in the Army on active duty, doing all sorts of secret stuff with chemicals and ordinances. He was primarily a clerk and got into major trouble when goods disappeared from the warehouse. He once mumbled something to me about having to leave the Guard and getting his pay docked big time to cover about $18,000 worth of missing items. Not exactly a steller performance. I never DID find out how that all went over, but my guess is not well, since he never mentioned it again.

Yet, whenever I heard him talk to third parties about his time in the guard, he had people convinced he was a jet pilot (I'm not kidding), a secret agent, and active duty Army.

NOT.


Just a puffed up clerk.

Yawn.



c

[Danny Donovan]

The Defendant conveys himself as a big time mover-and-shaker Public Figure. So simply follow him everywhere with a camera. Several people with cameras, if possible, shooting constantly. All the time. It's not stalking with a public figure in a public venue; it's journalism. -snicker-

It's a shame, in the rap game.. only in it for the money and the fame... paparazzi!

lol. Oh Xzibit....

[Matt Doc Martin]

The Defendant conveys himself as a big time mover-and-shaker Public Figure. So simply follow him everywhere with a camera. Several people with cameras, if possible, shooting constantly. All the time. It's not stalking with a public figure in a public venue; it's journalism. -snicker-

Speaking of which, do you suppose anyone from an industry magazine, site or other news source could go visit The Defendant, in person, and take an unbiased interview? If The Defendant has such immunity and righteous power, it seems like telling his side of everything to an official source would be in The Defendant's best interests. Get it in print, to stand by in the eyes of the world, as it were. I'd like to see it.

Rick "The Defendant" Olney does have a nice ring to it.

And Colleen...I don't know that his service was entirely "undistinguished".

He may have gotten in a wee bit of trouble for going AWOL.

[DaveRothe]

Now he has posted a "denial" of calling Doc A.

Bet he sweats bullets, praying the call can't be traced.

Rick: When will you allow me to comment on your blog? Or are you scared?

Matt he sweats bullets trying to make it up the staircase! And *67 just blocks it from the person you're calling and NOT the phone company Dickie. There is a record of your call. There may even be some legal action to you misusing the phone if your phone company wants to press charges also. So not only will action be taken by DocA but the phone co. could/can take away your phone services too.

[TonyIsabella]

I just heard from another established pro and a rather big name at that, telling me of his unhappy experience with Olney. I've asked for permission to share his comments here and will post them when/if I receive that permission.

Tony

[Danny Donovan]

I just heard from another established pro and a rather big name at that, telling me of his unhappy experience with Olney. I've asked for permission to share his comments here and will post them when/if I receive that permission.

Tony

Hmmm.. I hope it wasn't anyone he used my connections to get.

[OzBat!]

What a brave, brave, brave man. He's gone and quoted all of Tim's emails on the phone call topic, and finished up with this:You're barking up the wrong tree, Tobolski! I didn't call you. Have no reason to. Anything I have to communicate to you will either be done here, via my attorney, or thru small press coverage. I understand that you have some trouble with facts and times and WHO exactly was working under WHO'S direction back during our ICC interactions. But that aside, call the police or whomever else you think might help you (Ghostbusters?)

Sincerely,

Rick OlneyHey brave man! Where's the blog comments from earlier where you dropped stuff told to you in the past in confidence? What happened to those, Rick? Gonna deny that ever happened either? Pity I got a pdf of it as soon as I saw it yesterday!

You are sooooo sunk! Denial doesn't cut it when the cops trace the call, idiot.

[TCJohnson]

I'm
not sure what you were doing in 1971 to 1975, but I
know I was uncomfortable in serving and doing what I
did. But I did it.


While on his back, aparently. With prostitutes.

[DocAbsurd]

Olney, you are not only a cowardly chicken shit, you're a horrible lying chicken shit.

Sod the ICC stuff. You're the one with the short term memory. Besides which, I have a few people who I told everything to as it happened. They can vouch for my accounting of events. But that's not the issue at hand, although you'd love desperately for me to divert my attention away from last night's event straight to the ICC.

You called, Olney. You called within 3 minutes of my post. I was in the middle of writing an entirely different post when the phone rang. I erased that one and wrote about you calling within a minute of the call. It was your unmistakable weasely voice.

Why would I make something like that up? I've told you before, I want nothing to do with you until you pay what you owe me. You admitted you promised monetary recompense for those columns; Daphne still has the email.

Or was that one of your hammer-moving ghosts writing the emails?

Open your blog, Hit-n-Run. Lemme leave a few comments.

I filed the police report. They're coming by tomorrow to do a trace. I've kept track of not only when the call took place, but of how many calls I've received since then.

What surprises me is how long it took you to recant what happened. Didja have to look up excuses in your 'Super Villainy for Dummies'?

And you'll note I have yet to reveal any of your confidential conversations. Kinda blew your plan there, didn't I? You figured I'd start spilling and you'd erase your blog and suddenly you'd have something to claim against me. Nice try, Sivana.

[Koben Kelly]

Anything I have to communicate to you will either be done here, via my attorney...

Richard. Ricky. Rick. Ruh.

We all know you don't have an attorney, much less two leaggle firms.

A real lawyer would NEVER advise you to not show up in court... ever.

You told me that my bulletin on MySpace, passing on Tony's warning, would be forwarded to the "appropriate authorities." We know that was another pile of cowchips.

We now know you were never overseas, and that you never served seven years. Yes, you were a marine, but you weren't half as big a shit as you claimed. We now know why you continually used the "I don't have to prove anything to you people" response to the simple questioning of why you couldn't just produce evidence of your time as a marine.

And, now, we know you don't have the balls to stay on the phone long enough to get any response to your impotent, posturing phone call threat. You even lie about making the call when you realize how deep the shit you're in is.

Legally obtained phone traces are a bitch. You are soooo screwed, OKRA.

Know who that is you feel behind you looking over your shoulder? It's karma, and she's coming to bite you in the ass for everyone you've ever screwed over, stabbed in the back, or F-ed with for your benefit.

Or, maybe it's a kid who could have used the charitable care, paid for with the money you stole from St. Jude, to make their suffering a little easier.

You make me sick to my stomach, and my "Pepto" is on its way.

[CutterMike]

... Nice try, Sivana.

BWAAA-HAA-HAA-HAA....!

Nominated for best line oof the day!

[THEDOC]

On Orcablowhard's blog:




More bullshit from Olney. And now lying that he called and harassed Doc A.

You are a liar and a coward, Olney. And I will be sharing the story about you ALL OVER at CAPE.

And spreading Happy Meal bags around!

I see he took down his Hate Group blog afterr goimng at it with Sarah and of course showing what a sexist pig he is. Man and both of us are of the same generation. Rick didn't you learn to treat people and especially ladies, nice??

[DocAbsurd]

Woof woof.

That's me barking again.

Just got off the phone with the police. I've got an officer on his way over now to begin the trace and finalize the paperwork. If anyone has his address handy, PM me AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I've got the comments I posted along with the blog you erased, Olney, ready for the officer to read.

Woof woof.

[TomStillwell]

Woof woof.

That's me barking again.

Just got off the phone with the police. I've got an officer on his way over now to begin the trace and finalize the paperwork. If anyone has his address handy, PM me AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I've got the comments I posted along with the blog you erased, Olney, ready for the officer to read.

Woof woof.

Tim, I need your e-mail address.

[THEDOC]

Woof woof.

That's me barking again.

Just got off the phone with the police. I've got an officer on his way over now to begin the trace and finalize the paperwork. If anyone has his address handy, PM me AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I've got the comments I posted along with the blog you erased, Olney, ready for the officer to read.

Woof woof.

Keep us updated Tim.
I can vouch most of the ICC info D_A has been saying, as we had alot of communications about it during that time. I might have some IM's saved.

[TCJohnson]

Woof woof.

That's me barking again.

Why are you barking? Olney is the whiney bitch. :D

[THEDOC]

Woof woof.

That's me barking again.

Woof woof.

Who let the DOCs out? Woof woof woofwoof!!

[KevinTBrown]

Now he has posted a "denial" of calling Doc A.

Bet he sweats bullets, praying the call can't be traced.

Rick: When will you allow me to comment on your blog? Or are you scared?

Here's irony for you: If Olney purposely blocked his number by using the *67 code, it'll show up when they go to do a trace. Nice HUGE red flag for the police. They'll get him.... trust me.

And to Doc A, expect a PM momentarily. :)

[DocAbsurd]

Officer just left. Report has been officially filed. Thank you both, Tom and Danny.

I have to call Monday to set up an interview with detectives. Everything related to this incident will be recounted fully at that time. I'll be printing out all pertinent web-related information to this case, so whoever has the exact PDF for the blog he posted yesterday, please send that my way.

I will be filing for a warrant either Tuesday or Wednesday, depending on when I can set up the interview with the detectives.

Again, I was asked how I knew it was Olney; I explained the timeframe in which occured along with being able to recognize the voice from so many conversations over the years. Sorry to inform you, Alexander Graham Bell, but they can trace blocked numbers, regardless of the length of the call. Amazing exactly how much information is readily available in situations like this.

Do yourself a favor, Olney: admit that you called. Denial ain't gonna work in the face of hard evidence. Even if you called from a nearby payphone or a neighbor's house or someone else's mobile, if they have connection to you or the locale is near you it'll still be enough of a trail to lead right to you.

You shouldn't have called me a liar, Olney. I have something you'll never get, no matter how advanced our technology gets:

Integrity.

Woof woof, Olney.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

The Defendant conveys himself as a big time mover-and-shaker Public Figure. So simply follow him everywhere with a camera. Several people with cameras, if possible, shooting constantly. All the time. It's not stalking with a public figure in a public venue; it's journalism. -snicker-

Speaking of which, do you suppose anyone from an industry magazine, site or other news source could go visit The Defendant, in person, and take an unbiased interview? If The Defendant has such immunity and righteous power, it seems like telling his side of everything to an official source would be in The Defendant's best interests. Get it in print, to stand by in the eyes of the world, as it were. I'd like to see it.

*snicker*

I'd do it, but think I'd fail due to inability to keep straight face.

JP

[OzBat!]

Tim,

Sent! For the full before-and-after effect, I've sent you yesterdays AND todays. Dovetails nicely, I think!

[OzBat!]

I'd do it, but think I'd fail due to inability to keep straight face.Yeah, everybody would be asking me why I put on a laugh track for the entire duration!

[DocAbsurd]

Thanks, Kevin. I dunno if those'll work since I've gotten about 8 calls in the past 24 hours.

Question still remains:

Why would I lie about receiving a call from you, Olney? What could I possibly gain by fabricating such a monumental tale? Unlike certain people, I recognize the penalties for falsifying information, particularly to the authorities.

I was satisfied talking to others about this matter. I know you not only read this forum but that you practically camp at Gail's doorstep, waiting for scraps from the adults' table that you fervently pray will prove your ridiculous ascertations. I had nothing to discuss directly to you, as I've made plain frequently.

You've delayed paying me for years and now claim you don't owe me the money despite admitting so publicly. The columns are still on the internet, despite you trying to delete them; yesterday's blog was just sent to me. You can't make this go away.

Now you're stating I not only made the phone call up but that my recollections of the ICC are wrong? I discussed almost everything about the ICC with Lance, including how you didn't trust him enough to install him on the board of directors because of his friendship with Ian; you were afraid word would get back to Ian about the projects even though, as it turned out, you were bragging to everyone else about those projects. In retrospect, you're the one who needs an NDA, slapped straight across your mouth.

Y'see, I've been talking to other small press creators. They've given me corroboration to everything that I suspected happened behind the scenes, everything you kept secret from me. Remember me, the guy who was supposed to be the first name on the ICC not-for-profit status you never filed? Or are you gonna rescind that as well?

You can call me a liar, Olney. But that also means calling many many others liars as well. And I know you have no problem doing that.

That just makes everything fit neatly into your little conspiracy.

I've got no reason to lie. You've never had anything else.

[Blake Petit]

Doc, I hope you know, you're one of my heroes. Do it to it.

[Danny Donovan]

Officer just left. Report has been officially filed. Thank you both, Tom and Danny.

My pleasure. Please tell me how it goes Tim, if even only by PM. I'll keep it to myself if you don't want it to be public.

You deserve better than this!

[Gail Simone]

Well, I talked to an expert in contract law today. An attorney who has handled some big trials, in fact, for clients you would know.

I explained the NDA to him, he laughed his head off. He said it's first year, contract law, that Rick broke the agreement when he cheated those people. He said it was called 'Anicipatory Breach of Contract,' and Rick would get destroyed in court if he tried to use the NDA defense after having cheated all those people. He said NO lawyer will use that defense, not for a moment, because it's black and white clear...Rick broke the agreement by being a deadbeat, and you can't withhold payment just because your deadbeat ass feels like it.

He said he would have LOVED to have taken Rick to court just for the fun of watching the judge tear him apart for breaking the contract.

I know we've found this out before, but once again, a REAL lawyer tells Rick Olney that being a deadbeat is a bad thing and Rick's full of shit, as always.

Gail

[Chris Hansbrough]

Um. Tom Waltz isn't as old as Rick is so I would assume in the 1970's he was still in high school.

Tom is a marine, a distinguished one at that. Currently heading up an entertainment company founded by other marines, called Charlie Foxtrot Entertainment.

Tom is a friend of mine, a good man, and in all respects what one thinks of when they think of a marine.

He'll give you a kick in the ass when you need it, he'll give you all the help in the world when you need that to. You could never question Tom's service.

I was wondering if that comment he made was trying to take a potshot at Tom's service. I was about to post it too but would have ben late for wrk. Tom is one of the classiest bastards I've met in a long time and for anyone to doubt his military service or to call it into question is something that literally pisses me off to no end. And it's not just because I consider the guy a friend. I just can't believe anyone would actually do that or even try to take potshots at the guy. a guy who Rick....is what you wish you could be. A distinguished military vet wth class, distinction, and a love for comics and the poeple who work in em......Rather than a cheap coward who can't help but shove his foot so far down his throat it would be coming out his ass if he wasn't so busy talking out of it.

[DocAbsurd]

My biggest fault is that I keep nothing hidden. There is nothing in my life that I feel needs to be covered up. I don't brag about anything, especially not about my current situation. But I also don't see the need to lie.

Yeah, I fib about some stuff to the Things; all in the name of fun, though. I had them convinced their gerbils can read because of a badly written line in their 'care and feeding' pamphlet. And I plan on keeping the spirit of Santa alive as long as possible.

Everything else is an open book. Ask Larry, ask Sarah, both of who's ears I chewed off and made their eyes bleed from never-ending emails. I rely on my honesty and integrity.

I've got faith in humanity, even when confronted with gits like Olney or skanks like my ex. That's probably why I got screwed so badly by Olney in the first place: I trusted his word; his virtual handshake was as good as a contract for me.

That's why I don't take kindly to being called a liar.

There's not a lotta people who have my number, not even from here or UNSCREWED!. The only creators who do are Sarah and Lance. My parents, my sister, my best friend and Daphne have it as well. And Olney. Eliminating the women, that leaves my friend, my father, Lance and Olney.

The first 2 know better than to call so late unless it's an emergency. Lance calls once a month and only after we clear a time. Not a very long list after that. And who the hell would call with the message, 'Take your best shot!' and hang up immediately after?

Read my post from here (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4642059&postcount=23905); note the time. The call came between 11.15 PM and 11.25 PM, EST. I posted about immediately after it happened here (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4642193&postcount=23907).

Then this morning Olney's blog disappears and a new one is posted completely denying the call. Not a helluva lotta dots to connect there, Moriarty.

I'm still baffled as to why I'd make an incident like this up now; breaking friendship confidentiality is the least of his offenses to me at this point. Besides which, I've got the police involved, our attorney informed and word is spreading. Either I'm telling the truth or I've gotta be pretty damn secure in my ability to lie to what now amounts to a great number of people.

And I've said before, this is the bloody internet. I get angry at what may be written somewhere online but never to the point of cold-calling someone.

That's why our computers have an 'off' button.

[JTPencils]

That just makes everything fit neatly into your little conspiracy.


From the (thankfully) few conversations I had with Vile One, he's BIG on the whole conspiracy thing. Seems to think the worlds watching his every move and is waiting to pounce on him. According to him, there's folks out there just aching to hack into his computer and ruin his life (why, I would have no idea... he does that all by himself pretty well). All I'm saying is... the whole world doesn't hate him... yet... they just haven't met him. But once they do... welll.............

Paranoia, thy name is Olney.

[Chris Hansbrough]

From the (thankfully) few conversations I had with Vile One, he's BIG on the whole conspiracy thing. Seems to think the worlds watching his every move and is waiting to pounce on him. According to him, there's folks out there just aching to hack into his computer and ruin his life (why, I would have no idea... he does that all by himself pretty well). All I'm saying is... the whole world doesn't hate him... yet... they just haven't met him. But once they do... welll.............

Paranoia, thy name is Olney.

hey c'mon now. stop insultng the man.....he's not paranoid.....he'll listen to anyone as long as they have more than 50 myspace friends :D
man that comment will never cease to amuse me

-Chris Hansbrough - beating Dead horses since the 1980's.

[Coppervale Studio]

hey c'mon now. stop insultng the man.....he's not paranoid.....he'll listen to anyone as long as they have more than 50 myspace friends :D
man that comment will never cease to amuse me

-Chris Hansbrough - beating Dead horses since the 1980's.

The new, improved, myspace friendslist - now with 25% fewer hookers!!

[Chris Hansbrough]

The new, improved, myspace friendslist - now with 25% fewer hookers!!

here is my question....if it wasn't for the myspace hookers and adskanks on his friends list.....would he be able to take himself seriously? run that little conundrum though your head........ :eek:

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well, I talked to an expert in contract law today. An attorney who has handled some big trials, in fact, for clients you would know.

I explained the NDA to him, he laughed his head off. He said it's first year, contract law, that Rick broke the agreement when he cheated those people. He said it was called 'Anicipatory Breach of Contract,' and Rick would get destroyed in court if he tried to use the NDA defense after having cheated all those people. He said NO lawyer will use that defense, not for a moment, because it's black and white clear...Rick broke the agreement by being a deadbeat, and you can't withhold payment just because your deadbeat ass feels like it.

He said he would have LOVED to have taken Rick to court just for the fun of watching the judge tear him apart for breaking the contract.

I know we've found this out before, but once again, a REAL lawyer tells Rick Olney that being a deadbeat is a bad thing and Rick's full of shit, as always.

Gail


Well to be honest everyone here back 19,000 posts ago told Rick this very same thing. Then so did some who have had experince with NDA's , then some lawyers as well....and each time he wouldn't listen. So I doubt he'll ever listen to anyone , ever.

His own actions destroyed Tightlip Enertainment. He can claim others did but had he been upfront and not tried to play Jim Shooter launching Defiant with a company line of books he could have started with small expectations like Tom Stillwell has.

It wasn't like Tom sit down and had a gameplan where he wanted to be McFarlane right off the bat. He wanted to do a comic book. He then worked and handled his business the right way. He didn't buy old funeral homes and wanna make a horror attraction based on a comic book or proclaim he had hot movies in the works to launch his comics. (I still can't understand how Fisher expects such huge sales with a movie when history has showed us no comic book movie has helped sales right now)

But yeah , Rick Olney wanted to be such a huge name in comics. He wanted to be like Gareb Shamus. Run Wizard Conventions , run a MMA League now and publish comics from time to time. Its just that he really didn't wanna do the work Shamus and others had done when Wizard started.

Everyone knows it was a risk. It was a small thing they had done for their store. But what happened ? It took off and for years Shamus grew his business into an empire.

Its just sad really. He had the right connections. He could have worked something out and did 1 comic book instead of wanting to be such a HUGE NAME asap.

[Coppervale Studio]

A comic written by Olney and illustrated by J-Bolt would sell a million copies.

Combined, they'd be the Bulwer-Lytton of the medium.

[Danny Donovan]

I was wondering if that comment he made was trying to take a potshot at Tom's service. I was about to post it too but would have ben late for wrk. Tom is one of the classiest bastards I've met in a long time and for anyone to doubt his military service or to call it into question is something that literally pisses me off to no end. And it's not just because I consider the guy a friend. I just can't believe anyone would actually do that or even try to take potshots at the guy. a guy who Rick....is what you wish you could be. A distinguished military vet wth class, distinction, and a love for comics and the poeple who work in em......Rather than a cheap coward who can't help but shove his foot so far down his throat it would be coming out his ass if he wasn't so busy talking out of it.


Quoted for the damn truth.

If you want to see a REAL marine's marine you look no further than Tom Waltz. The best friend you can ask for, a great father, and a VERY TALENTED AND PUBLISHED WRITER.

(check out his Children of the Grave, which has been collected by IDW and is out now)

blech. I'm not even going to go into the many things I've been repulsed by today alone that have ties to Olney. I need a hydrochloric acid shower.

I'm just eternally sick of GOOD AND DECENT PEOPLE being infected by this.... thing.

Honestly, as I was telling Sarah B. last night (I have to specify, as there are as many Sara(h)'s in my circle as there are Jim's in Miss Beach's!) this would make a REALLY interesting book, if anyone could stomach to profile it.

It'd be the trashiest #1 seller the NY TIMES BEST SELLER LIST has ever had. :p

[Sarah Beach]

Gail, hearing about real lawyers laughing at the subject's legal posturing ALWAYS amuses me. Hee.

"Who let the Docs out?" LOL. Really. 'Cause I like you guys.

DocA, I appreciate your trust (re: the phone number). I won't abuse it. That said, you know I back you on the steps you're taking.

In spite of the subject claiming that everyone in this thread denying he'd been in service, I in fact have said several times that I was willing to accept that he'd had service of some sort. I just didn't believe it was all cracked up to be what he said it was. But a detail like that apparently doesn't matter to him.

His abuse of SuperHeroNews in using it to spew out his "defense" - it's ridiculous.

We're closing off more and more internet venues where he can rant and spew, and that's making him more irate. THAT'S CALLED THE POWER OF TRUTH!! Doofus.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

A comic written by Olney and illustrated by J-Bolt would sell a million copies.

Combined, they'd be the Bulwer-Lytton of the medium.

Both I doubt would do any work on it. J-Bolt would proclaim its the biggest event in the history of the meduim. Rick would proclaim his writing the 2nd coming of an Alan Moore.

[Danny Donovan]

Rick is in such trouble now.

Rik Offenberger (the owner of Super-Hero News) is pissed off. I've asked his permission to repost his statement for the Unscrewed! front, I would like to ask anyone who has already read it to please not post it until I've been given permission.

I don't want Rik to be put through anything worse.

But apperently, Olney is going to be getting some unhappy attention now for trying to use the group for his own benefit.

[Coppervale Studio]

Both I doubt would do any work on it. J-Bolt would proclaim its the biggest event in the history of the meduim. Rick would proclaim his writing the 2nd coming of an Alan Moore.

That's the beauty of it: it's Zen Comics.

Comics in a pure, conceptual state.

They can call it Schroedinger's Cat's Comics & Stories. It comes in a plain cardboard box, and can only be enjoyed fully by not opening the box to see if the comic is there. It thus exists in an unseen, unchanging state of beauty and perfection.

J-Bolt has already perfected the promotion of a Zen Comic; and we'd be spared having to actually READ Olney's crappy writing.

It is as pure as it gets. A million copies, easy.

[Chris Hansbrough]

Quoted for the damn truth.

If you want to see a REAL marine's marine you look no further than Tom Waltz. The best friend you can ask for, a great father, and a VERY TALENTED AND PUBLISHED WRITER.

(check out his Children of the Grave, which has been collected by IDW and is out now)

blech. I'm not even going to go into the many things I've been repulsed by today alone that have ties to Olney. I need a hydrochloric acid shower.

I'm just eternally sick of GOOD AND DECENT PEOPLE being infected by this.... thing.

Honestly, as I was telling Sarah B. last night (I have to specify, as there are as many Sara(h)'s in my circle as there are Jim's in Miss Beach's!) this would make a REALLY interesting book, if anyone could stomach to profile it.

It'd be the trashiest #1 seller the NY TIMES BEST SELLER LIST has ever had. :p

Damn right check out the children of the grave trade. I guarantee you to everyone in out hate group.....you will enjoy this book.......

You know it's funny. I wasn't even involved with this thing until a few days ago when I came across his blog and read his insults towards people I consider to be friends....I was content to be silent, try to win a couple unscrewed auctions.......Damn you people who have more money than me :p .... Really it was Tom's passion that made me start investigamating it a bit.... I still was content to be silent....then the blog....nonpayment towards people I don't know....gonna think yer a douche....but not gonna get my panties all up in a bunch publicly.....Insulting people I consider friends......well you just opened the flood gates and I am capable of being a bigger ass hole than you and MotA all rolled into one.....They may only consider me an aquantance or that guy I met at a convention a few times....but with the class and respect people like Gail, Tom Waltz, Kurt Busiek, and many more you've attacked have shown me, I consider them friends. Yeah you wanna earn respect rick....start by getting that foot out of your mouth so that you can speak from somewhere other than your ass

Does this mean I'm officially a member of a hate group now......sweet...I'm gonna design the funny hats :p

[Danny Donovan]

Does this mean I'm officially a member of a hate group now......sweet...I'm gonna design the funny hats :p


Yes Chris, I do believe you have made it on Rick's very long, very convoluted "short list" but you still aren't quite to the "dirty dozen" status yet.

Keep trying though. I think they're going to have to start refering to it as the "dirty googleplex" if this thread gets much bigger. lol.

welcome though. Bev made punch and Kevin brought cheesecake.

[Chris Hansbrough]

Yes Chris, I do believe you have made it on Rick's very long, very convoluted "short list" but you still aren't quite to the "dirty dozen" status yet.

Keep trying though. I think they're going to have to start refering to it as the "dirty googleplex" if this thread gets much bigger. lol.

welcome though. Bev made punch and Kevin brought cheesecake.

and I brought the crown to spike the punch.....w00t.....the expensive kind....that I paid for....because when you are supposed to pay for something.....YOU PAY FOR IT

[Flamebird]

Welcome to the ranks Chris!:D

Would you like a side of fries with your "LEAGGLE THREATS"?

Though I think someone just made popcorn. ;)



Ooh, I just made chocolate chip muffins, too.

[Chris Hansbrough]

Welcome to the ranks Chris!:D

Would you like a side of fries with your "LEAGGLE THREATS"?

Though I think someone just made popcorn. ;)



Ooh, I just made chocolate chip muffins, too.

It depends, are they Freedom fries, French Fries, or Poutine?

[Flamebird]

It depends, are they Freedom fries, French Fries, or Poutine?

Alright, don't start that "poutine" crap here, Mogo boy; save that for the bloc.;)

[Danny Donovan]

Okay, I got permission to repost this and anything that appears on the SHN group.

I have run Super Hero News for almost 8 years and during that time I have let people post whatever they liked to promote themselves and their product.

There has always been equal access for both large and small publishers, as well as creators both super stars and unknown. When all of you joined this list, it is listed as "Comicbook news as it happens, also list members
Comments, from pros, fans and retailers."

So from time to time there is some conversation about the news. There have been very few times over the years that members have complained about posts about them. I have responded to every complaint sent to me off list. I have moderated these situations off list in private e-mails between the parties.

I CONSIDER IT AN ETHICAL BREACH TO POST A PRIVATE E-MAIL IN A PUBLIC FORUM.

Rest assured, appropriate actions will be taken.


In order not to breach his confidentiality, I won't say what actions were taken but rest assured he's not going to be happy.

Also I want to stress that I think Rik is another damn classy guy in this biz. Go buy some Archie Comics dammit.

That's my decree to the entire "hate group" pick up a copy of Tom's COTG TPB from IDW (damn that's a lot of letters) and buy some Archie products

[Chris Hansbrough]

Alright, don't start that "poutine" crap here, Mogo boy; save that for the bloc.;)

glad someone else thinks it's crap....and Don't fuck with mogo....he's hardcore....and a therapist.......see I've got one too in the great Mogo there Rick....He says your nuts....At least he's more real than your therapists and lawyers.....

MOGO IS ALL!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

That's the beauty of it: it's Zen Comics.

Comics in a pure, conceptual state.

They can call it Schroedinger's Cat's Comics & Stories. It comes in a plain cardboard box, and can only be enjoyed fully by not opening the box to see if the comic is there. It thus exists in an unseen, unchanging state of beauty and perfection.

J-Bolt has already perfected the promotion of a Zen Comic; and we'd be spared having to actually READ Olney's crappy writing.

It is as pure as it gets. A million copies, easy.

Hah ha...be fun to watch. I know Gail and others have said with J-Bolts ability to hype products that don't exist he'd be awesome at DC doing that. Can you imagine him at Conventions hyping this non-existant book with Olney ? It would be fun to watch. :)

[Inkpot1965]

I keep reading Rick's statements about this person or that breaking their NDA. Rick Olney is the ONLY person I know of who has broken his precious NDA. I'll explain....

Several weeks ago, Rick claimed that he had an e-mail from me in which I called Jim Taylor's art for his company "substandard". Now putting aside for the moment that I don't remember EVER saying that about Jim's art, let's apply logic to this.

1. The statement [true or false] would've been made in a private e-mail from myself to Rick [the Creative Director of TLE to my boss, the Owner of TLE]. That would've been a confidential e-mail, discussing an artist performing work for the company. That action would certainly have fallen within my job description as CD. Reviewing the job performance of an employee is a sensitive matter, and the release of that info would certainly affect moral and productivity, thus harming the company [the very concern Rick supposedly had].

2. By taking that statement to a public forum, Rick would be in violation of his own NDA. And by his own interpretation, there is NO tolerance in regards to breaking that document. Not even for the reason he used [to try and drive a wedge between a good friend and myself]. It was an unsuccessful try on his part, but it doesn't dull the pettiness of his actions.

3. Since you've broken your own contract, Rick, will your leaggle team be filing charges against you as well as everyone else? I remember you saying it was out of your hands. So is it possible that YOU will be the next [or is that FIRST] to feel their sting? Inquiring minds want to know.

4. As I stated, I don't recall having made the statement Rick mentioned. And when asked to forward that e-mail to me [on this very thread], he refused. Which makes me doubt it exists. But feel free to prove me wrong, Rick. I'll be happy to apologize if you can produce it. I just can't help doubting your claim, as I like Jim's work and am working with him to this very day. If I thought he was "substandard", wouldn't I avoid having my name show up in credits along with him?

P.S.
I never doubted it was possible you were in fact a Marine, Rick. But now knowing that you WERE, only makes this situation more pathetic. All present and former Marines should be horrified that a former comrade has fallen to your level of irresponsibility. You must be proud of the example you've set.

[Chris Hansbrough]

I keep reading Rick's statements about this person or that breaking their NDA. Rick Olney is the ONLY person I know of who has broken his precious NDA. I'll explain....

words

2. By taking that statement to a public forum, Rick would be in violation of his own NDA. And by his own interpretation, there is NO tolerance in regards to breaking that document. Not even for the reason he used [to try and drive a wedge between a good friend and myself]. It was an unsuccessful try on his part, but it doesn't dull the pettiness of his actions.

more words

3. Since you've broken your own contract, Rick, will your leaggle team be filing charges against you as well as everyone else? I remember you saying it was out of your hands. So is it possible that YOU will be the next [or is that FIRST] to feel their sting? Inquiring minds want to know.

there were more words here too


You know One of the things that amazes me about his leaggle threats is that he really doesn't know what the law word means. if you sue someone for NDA you have to prove a breach of Contract on their part. if the breach of contract s from ye....the document is null and void as the contract is no longer valid. (See Gails post earlier today)

Then on to his second favorite term. Libel. You do know what that means right rick? It;s not what you think it means. calling you a cowardly cheapskate douchebag is not libel. That's called an insult and guess what.....that's not illegal. professional or no.....look it up in a dictionary rather than wikipedia.....a leaggle dictionary...

[TomWaltz]

All --

Just a quick note of thanks, especially to Danny D. and Chris H., for all the kind words that have been posted here about me. Much appreciated, though really not necessary (although I'd be a liar if I didn't admit that Hansbrough calling me "one of the classiest bastards [he's] met in a long time" got a chuckle or two outta me). Fact is, I posted on Super Hero News because I was getting frustrated with all the Olney-related emails I was getting.

I love comics news, and SHN is such a fabulous source for that, so I'm always anxious to open the emails I get from that great Yahoo group. But lately the emails have been...well, you know. I guess I got fed up with it and couldn't resist venting a bit. Ironically (and I've admitted this to Moderator Rik O. over at SHN in private), my post on the forum complaining about Olney-SPAM was, in and of itself, more SPAM to the fire, so to speak, and in retrospect I wish I would have voiced my complaint more professionally, by which I mean directly to Rik O. and not for all the SHN community to see. Rik O., for his part, HAS handled things professionally, both publicly and privately (as I mentioned above), and I'm confident the matter will be rectified quickly and fairly.

I did say in my post there that I wouldn't discuss the matter again, but I feel compelled to break that vow here and say a few things about Olney.

First of all, I do believe Rick Olney was in the Marines. The documentation that was presented here through the FOIA looks valid. From the little information it provides (a DD214 is always the best record of service), my guess is that Olney DID serve overseas during his service (the FPO address is a dead giveaway), and that he served in some sort of service and supply capacity -- most likely as a supply clerk or supply NCO. He says he was a Military Policeman, but I don't see any evidence of that. However, it is not unreasonable to believe he was attached to an MP unit as part of their supply company. He may have even done some direct work with the MPs (pulling guard duty, checkpoint duty, etc.). I was an MP with the 670th Military Police Company of the California Army National Guard from '99 to '04, and it wasn't uncommon for non-MPs in our unit to work with us when the mission required. If you're not a certified MP, you're not going to write any traffic tickets on base, but nothing says you can't work with an MP at a checkpoint or during a convoy escort mission, so long as you remember to point your weapon in the right direction -- something which all Marines and soldiers are trained to do.

One thing about the documentation that I found interesting was that Olney made corporal in 3 years. I don't know what the rate of promotion was like in the early 70's (I was born in '69, so when Olney was serving, I was still learning how to use the toilet by myself), but when I was on active duty with the USMC ('87-'91), making corporal in three years in most Military Occupational Specialties (MOS) was pretty damn tough. Not impossible, but definitely not a given. So, based on my own experience, the fact that he was a Non-Commissioned Officer (NCO) after only 3 years is, on the surface, pretty darn good. Just telling you like it is.

Also, when Rick talks about his military service/experience, he sounds like someone who was in the Marines. There are just certain ways he phrases things, and certain Marine-specific acronyms that he uses, that make me believe he was in the USMC, regardless of whether or not he's over-inflating the facts. Yeah, I suppose someone could fake the lingo, but it'd be damn hard to do as consistenly and precisely as Olney does. Even Tom Clancy gets it wrong every once in awhile.

So, in a nutshell, I believe Olney was a Marine and feel that aspect of the ongoing conflict against him should be laid to rest. Let's be honest -- you all have enough dirt on him (dirt he has brought upon himself, I should add) without having to dwell on the whole "did he or didn't he serve in the armed forces?" part anymore.

As for Olney taking a veiled shot (if that's what it indeed was) at my service on the SHN forum, it really means nothing to me. I know when I served, why I served, where I served, and how I served my country. I'm very proud of my time in uniform and am happy I had the opportunity to serve alongside some of the most remarkable men and women I've had the good fortune to meet in my lifetime. Thing is, my occupational priority is creating comics now, and that's why I wanted to do my part to clean up Super Hero News a bit, hence my public post about the SPAM problem I felt was taking place on the forum. My military history is, in essence, moot as it relates to that particular action. Again, I want to thank those who have been kind enough to defend and commend me on Gail's forum here but, please, don't worry about me. I'm a big boy with a big grin that never fades. Just ask Danny D. if you don't believe me. :)

(If, however, you really want to do something I'd totally dig, please send some of your extra comic books to our folks serving overseas right now. Now THAT would be cool as hell, in my book, and I know they'd love to get them.)

Okay, that's enough from me. This really is the LAST I will say on the whole Olney-gate thing. I just spent 20 minutes typing this up when I've got comic scripting and editing that needs to get done. I wish you all luck in your pursuit of justice and hope this thing will come to a fitting (and final) conclusion soon. That way more attention can be focused on all the cool ass things going on in the world of graphic storytelling these days.

See you around!

Tom Waltz
Writer/Editor
Simmons Comics Group/IDW Publishing
www.Simmons-Comics.com
www.idwpublishing.com

[SUPERECWFAN1]

So, in a nutshell, I believe Olney was a Marine and feel that aspect of the ongoing conflict against him should be laid to rest. Let's be honest -- you all have enough dirt on him (dirt he has brought upon himself, I should add) without having to dwell on the whole "did he or didn't he serve in the armed forces?" part anymore.

Tom Waltz
Writer/Editor
Simmons Comics Group/IDW Publishing
www.Simmons-Comics.com
www.idwpublishing.com

Yeah ...least we know that he wasn't the character in Star Wars don't we ? I do the find the Star Wars thing kinda humerous looking back. :p

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

That's the beauty of it: it's Zen Comics.

Comics in a pure, conceptual state.

They can call it Schroedinger's Cat's Comics & Stories. It comes in a plain cardboard box, and can only be enjoyed fully by not opening the box to see if the comic is there. It thus exists in an unseen, unchanging state of beauty and perfection.

J-Bolt has already perfected the promotion of a Zen Comic; and we'd be spared having to actually READ Olney's crappy writing.

It is as pure as it gets. A million copies, easy.

Ommm mana pada hummm... *meditates.

I see it! J BOLT and Olney...Yikes! back to happy place...back to happy place...

*ends meditation

Good think we won't see this any time soon in print.

Tom is a classy guy. That said, his group STILL owes me an interview. But seriously, the comics in his imprint look very sweet. I can't wait to see them myself.

JP

[Chris Hansbrough]

All --

Just a quick note of thanks, especially to Danny D. and Chris H., for all the kind words that have been posted here about me. Much appreciated, though really not necessary (although I'd be a liar if I didn't admit that Hansbrough calling me "one of the classiest bastards [he's] met in a long time" got a chuckle or two outta me). Fact is, I posted on Super Hero News because I was getting frustrated with all the Olney-related emails I was getting.

A whole lotta the talkety talk that is redundant to my reply

As for Olney taking a veiled shot (if that's what it indeed was) at my service on the SHN forum, it really means nothing to me. I know when I served, why I served, where I served, and how I served my country. I'm very proud of my time in uniform and am happy I had the opportunity to serve alongside some of the most remarkable men and women I've had the good fortune to meet in my lifetime. Thing is, my occupational priority is creating comics now, and that's why I wanted to do my part to clean up Super Hero News a bit, hence my public post about the SPAM problem I felt was taking place on the forum. My military history is, in essence, moot as it relates to that particular action. Again, I want to thank those who have been kind enough to defend and commend me on Gail's forum here but, please, don't worry about me. I'm a big boy with a big grin that never fades. Just ask Danny D. if you don't believe me. :)

(If, however, you really want to do something I'd totally dig, please send some of your extra comic books to our folks serving overseas right now. Now THAT would be cool as hell, in my book, and I know they'd love to get them.)

Okay, that's enough from me. This really is the LAST I will say on the whole Olney-gate thing. I just spent 20 minutes typing this up when I've got comic scripting and editing that needs to get done. I wish you all luck in your pursuit of justice and hope this thing will come to a fitting (and final) conclusion soon. That way more attention can be focused on all the cool ass things going on in the world of graphic storytelling these days.

See you around!

Tom Waltz
Writer/Editor
Simmons Comics Group/IDW Publishing
www.Simmons-Comics.com
www.idwpublishing.com

Well you are man. it's not gushing when I say you are one of the coolest guys I have met in comics. hell I can just pick up the Children trade to see how great of a guy you are....still makes me happy to this day when I sees it. You are a classy and appreciative guy and I've got tons of respect for ya because of the way you treat your fans and generally everyone I've seen you interact with.....It's a great great thing people that that....

point 2. - can't really think of anything other than yeah, I know you are someone who can take care of himself......

point 3 - donated twice this year so far.

and on point 4....yes there are amazing things in comics....(Like the children of the grave trade paperback)

Keep up the kick ass work my friend and hopefully I'll be seeing you in San Diego again this summer...

[TomWaltz]

Well you are man. it's not gushing when I say you are one of the coolest guys I have met in comics. hell I can just pick up the Children trade to see how great of a guy you are....still makes me happy to this day when I sees it. You are a classy and appreciative guy and I've got tons of respect for ya because of the way you treat your fans and generally everyone I've seen you interact with.....It's a great great thing people that that....

point 2. - can't really think of anything other than yeah, I know you are someone who can take care of himself......

point 3 - donated twice this year so far.

and on point 4....yes there are amazing things in comics....(Like the children of the grave trade paperback)

Keep up the kick ass work my friend and hopefully I'll be seeing you in San Diego again this summer...

Man, San Diego...not sure if I'll make it this year...the travel and hotel costs and all.

Wait!

What am I saying?!

I LIVE in San Diego!

All I gotta pay for are trolley tickets and nasty, over-priced convention center hamburgers and watered down sodas.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

;)

Thanks again for the nice words, Chris, and for always plugging CHILDREN OF THE GRAVE to the untainted masses. Look for a new Team Orphan book to be announced very soon. (Just gotta get Casey Maloney away from that darn Star Trek book he's drawing so damn well for IDW right now. Traitor!)

:)

Take care,

Tom W.

[Chris Hansbrough]

Man, San Diego...not sure if I'll make it this year...the travel and hotel costs and all.

Wait!

What am I saying?!

I LIVE in San Diego!

All I gotta pay for are trolley tickets and nasty, over-priced convention center hamburgers and watered down sodas.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

;)

Thanks again for the nice words, Chris, and for always plugging CHILDREN OF THE GRAVE to the untainted masses. Look for a new Team Orphan book to be announced very soon. (Just gotta get Casey Maloney away from that darn Star Trek book he's drawing so damn well for IDW right now. Traitor!)

:)

Take care,

Tom W.

SUHWEET!....expect a full round of whoring all over the web in the next couple of days though. I read the trade again today on lunch and it reminded me I hadn't done it in a while.....that and this morninings....well here thing....

can't wait for more......

Wait what's going on....we're supposed to be a hate group guys....but we're spreading love....love for awesome badassnessitude.

[Danny Donovan]

but, please, don't worry about me. I'm a big boy with a big grin that never fades. Just ask Danny D. if you don't believe me. :)

Tom Waltz
Writer/Editor
Simmons Comics Group/IDW Publishing
www.Simmons-Comics.com (http://www.Simmons-Comics.com)
www.idwpublishing.com (http://www.idwpublishing.com)

It's true, he is. Got them big size 13 combat boots from his time in the corps.

However being a member of the GL Honor Guard I have a nifty ring. Ring's beat boots any day of the week. lol.

Remind me to e-mail you sometime about something Sean mentioned to me awhile ago. :p Sometime when I'm concious and don't have eleventy billion things going on! lol.

I hope to come out to SDCCI this year if things keep ticking like they are. *knock on wood* God willing I'll have enough from my various projects in the works to get there and back.

Now I just gotta worry about Tom giving me a REAL kicking for all my girl whining over the years instead of just a verbal smackdown. :p

[Danny Donovan]

A side note and a plea:

Please stop insinuating Jim Main's involvement with Rick!!!!!!!

Honestly that was more to Matt than anyone else, but I got an e-mail from Jim, he apperently has recieved word from Rick telling him we're picking on the esteemed Mr. Main.

Jim informs me that he has NOTHING to do with Rick. Please do not take his past association with him into conspiracy theory.

Jim Main is one hell of an individual, and someone I'm proud to know.

Rick is attempting his "divide and conquer" techniques so please do not give him fodder by making unfounded accusations especially on people that have donated so heavily to our cause.

[Sarah Beach]

Thanks for the analysis of the form, Tom. Your evaluation of it is pretty much in line with what I was expecting (I'm pegging Okinawa as the overseas location - he's mentioned it). I'll take your word on the matter of making corporal (since I don't really know details of military life). Given all other factors, I can see the possibilities of it being true then: the subject would have applied himself to it as a perceived route to "power" and status. I think we've covered that ground sufficiently now. (Although it still makes his harping on it all rather pathetically funny.)

There's plenty else in his behavior worth criticising. He certainly isn't a Marine now - at least not in his sense of honor or fidelity.

Oh, and I agree with Danny regarding Jim Main.

Look: we don't know the whole of the details, and Jim's under no obligation to provide them. It's not worth our energy to get all wound up (yes, you Matt - save your energy for the important target) about folks who have had tangential connections to the subject. We shouldn't be making assumptions about the intelligence, integrity or intentions about such people (that means Jim Main, Mike Zarnock and even Jason Dube). Let's just wait on events. The subject will create his own disasters - we've seen that clearly enough.

[MacQuarrie]

Okay, I apologized and admitted I was wrong.

I notice that the Defendant has taken down the "Screw you, MacQ" post on his blog before I could respond to it. (By the way, Dickless, you couldn't be my father unless you were getting laid at age 4. As for your other threats, if you want to make it physical, I challenge you to a duel. I choose sabers. Have a first aid kit handy.)

Anyway, Dick wants to be, well, a dick about it, so what the hell. Here are all three pages of his service record. Anyone who knows what all the abbreviations mean can clear up the mysteries.

http://www.jimmacq.com/olney/olney-1.jpg

http://www.jimmacq.com/olney/olney-2.jpg

http://www.jimmacq.com/olney/olney-3.jpg

[OzBat!]

I got bored earlier, so I started trawling through the Jurisdictionary (https://www.jurisdictionary.com/dictionary/), the lawsuit self help website. y'know, pretending I was Olney, without Wikipedia to rely on. The biggest thing that makes me laugh is his constant insistance that he's going to get those cases overturned.

For your benefit Rick, here's what I found:Appeal.

When a party is disappointed with a trial judge's ruling, he may under some circumstances appeal the order to a higher court. Many people are confused about this process, however, believing one may take an appeal to the higher court for any reason, e.g., he didn't like the ruling. In fact, appeals are decided exclusively on fixed principles of law, and the appellant's view of right and wrong will almost never have any effect on the appellate court.Ooops! Oh well! Umm... Whooops?

At this point I was laughing again too much to continue. I'm sorry, I know everybody except Olney already knew this, but seeing it in print from a site specifically set up for reference for people like Rick was just too funny.

[Samuel Catalino]

So, who here is going to be at the Pittsburgh Comicon? I ask, because with the way RO's acting, I'm sure he'll think he's safe to go there, and even try enlisting small-press/up-and-comers to work for him. I'm thinking of making flyers that feature his face and company logo, warning people to stay away from him.

I do know if he shows, and approaches my family or me, I will ask for his removal, as I feel he is a threat, since I have posted to this "libel-thread" and he has threatened many people on it.

Glenn,

He is not coming to the Pittsburgh Con. I can pretty much guarantee that.

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

Okay, I apologized and admitted I was wrong.

I notice that the Defendant has taken down the "Screw you, MacQ" post on his blog before I could respond to it. (By the way, Dickless, you couldn't be my father unless you were getting laid at age 4. As for your other threats, if you want to make it physical, I challenge you to a duel. I choose sabers. Have a first aid kit handy.)

Anyway, Dick wants to be, well, a dick about it, so what the hell. Here are all three pages of his service record. Anyone who knows what all the abbreviations mean can clear up the mysteries.

http://www.jimmacq.com/olney/olney-1.jpg

http://www.jimmacq.com/olney/olney-2.jpg

http://www.jimmacq.com/olney/olney-3.jpg

I am just wondering about all of those folks who said that R.O. was lying about being in the Marines have apologized since this information came to light.

As for the rest of his behavior toward those people who have suffered, my disgust toward that continues.

[Samuel Catalino]

I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to Rick Olney for doubting his military record.

I have here before a copy of NA Form 13164, the information releasable under the Freedom of Information Act, showing Military Service for Richard Lee Olney II.

Maybe somebody here with military knowledge can translate some of this into civilian terms...

Page 1:
Name: Richard Lee Olney II.
Branch of Service: Marine Corps
Dates of Service: November 7, 1972 - November 11, 1975
Duty Status: Discharge
Rank/Grade: Corporal
Salary: N/A
Source of Commission: N/A
Promotion Sequence Number: N/A
Assignments and Geographical Locations: See Attachment
Military Education: See Attachment
Decorations and Awards: National Defense Service Medal
Transcript of Court-Martial Trial: Not in File
Photograph: N/A
Place of Entry: Albany, NY
Place of Separation: Norfolk, VA

Page 2
Service Schools, Technical Training and Military Correspondence Courses Completed:
School Attended and Location | Course | No. Weeks | Mo./Year Completed | Incomplete | Class Standing or Grade
MCSSS, MCB, CamLej | BasSupAdminCrs | 4 | 7305 | - | {DELETED}
MCI Wash D.C. | MARINE CORPS STOCK LISTS | - | 731025 | {DELETED}
MCI Washington D.C. | The Marine NCO | - | 1073 | - | -
MCI Washington D.C. | SASSY: Organic Procedures | - | 0173 | - | B
MCI Washington D.C. | The Marine NCO | - | 7407 | - | -

Page 3
Record of Service
(I'll scan this and send it to anyone who wants to see it.)

I don't see any indication on here that he went overseas, but I also don't know what any of these abbreviations mean, so I could be wrong on that.
Long and short of it is, the issue is settled. Rick Olney is in fact a USMC veteran, albeit one with an utterly undistinguished record.

I apologize for accusing you of lying, Rick.

It takes a person of true class and dignity to admit their error, Mac.

Best,

Samuel

[Matt Doc Martin]

Rick is in such trouble now.

Rik Offenberger (the owner of Super-Hero News) is pissed off. I've asked his permission to repost his statement for the Unscrewed! front, I would like to ask anyone who has already read it to please not post it until I've been given permission.

I don't want Rik to be put through anything worse.

But apperently, Olney is going to be getting some unhappy attention now for trying to use the group for his own benefit.

Again...note that he was AWOL for a brief time.

And the closest he got to "in country" was Chinatown in San Francisco.

[EdContradictory]

I am just wondering about all of those folks who said that R.O. was lying about being in the Marines have apologized since this information came to light.

I'll admit I was wrong, but I won't be apologizing. It was a reasonable assumption given his history of lying, his refusal to provide any real proof himself, and his general scumbaggery.

Don't forget, this is a guy who tried to pass off a picture of other people serving as his own.

And, as others have pointed out, he still seems to be lying about some of the particulars of his service.

But he did serve.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'll admit I was wrong, but I won't be apologizing. It was a reasonable assumption given his history of lying, his refusal to provide any real proof himself, and his general scumbaggery.

Don't forget, this is a guy who tried to pass off a picture of other people serving as his own.

And, as others have pointed out, he still seems to be lying about some of the particulars of his service.

But he did serve.

I'm with Ed.

[Samuel Catalino]

There is more to that story than you know.

Off the group, yes. But Jim still supports Rick.

If you are referring to Jim Main, I frequent his forum and have seen no support of R.O.

[Samuel Catalino]

I'll admit I was wrong, but I won't be apologizing. It was a reasonable assumption given his history of lying, his refusal to provide any real proof himself, and his general scumbaggery.

Don't forget, this is a guy who tried to pass off a picture of other people serving as his own.

And, as others have pointed out, he still seems to be lying about some of the particulars of his service.

But he did serve.

An apology does not mean being contrite, it is just an explanation of an action. At least that is what the original definition meant until others were added to it.

To accuse someone of lying about something without evidence is a poor way of getting to the truth. And it makes the accuser look ridiculous.

[Matt Doc Martin]

An apology does not mean being contrite, it is just an explanation of an action. At least that is what the original definition meant until others were added to it.

To accuse someone of lying about something without evidence is a poor way of getting to the truth. And it makes the accuser look ridiculous.

For. Fuck's. SAKE!!!


EVERYONE accuses Rick of lying because THAT IS WHAT HE DOES!!!

"Gee, Rick...I am sorry I did not believe your wild claims about singlehandedly taking out Charlie in Tai-Pan. Will you ever forgive me and pay the people you owe?"

[Hybrid2]

So, to sum up for the doped-up gimp: He WAS in the military, but he LIED about how long and about what he did.

I"M SHOCK!!


:D

[TonyIsabella]

This is off-topic, but check this out:

http://www.comics.com/comics/nancy/index.html

Tony

[Matt Doc Martin]

This is off-topic, but check this out:

http://www.comics.com/comics/nancy/index.html

Tony

Nice one, Tony!

[EdContradictory]

To accuse someone of lying about something without evidence is a poor way of getting to the truth. And it makes the accuser look ridiculous.
Thanks for that. I think constantly attacking him or attacking his attackers based on the way the wind is blowing looks ridiculous.

The fact is that there was plenty of proof Rick was lying. Such as the aforementioned photo he pretended was of him serving and it wasn't.

The fact is that it has now been proved that he served AND that he lied about that service.

Thus the accusations that he was lying about his service were correct on some counts and incorrect on others.

There's nothing, therefore, to apologize for.

[TomStillwell]

Thanks for that. I think constantly attacking him or attacking his attackers based on the way the wind is blowing looks ridiculous.

The fact is that there was plenty of proof Rick was lying. Such as the aforementioned photo he pretended was of him serving and it wasn't.

The fact is that it has now been proved that he served AND that he lied about that service.

Thus the accusations that he was lying about his service were correct on some counts and incorrect on others.

There's nothing, therefore, to apologize for.

That's it.

I don't think anyone said 100% Olney didn't serve. We asked for evidence and he wouldn't provide it. More than once he provided false evidence of his service. We sought our own evidence instead.

Why were there doubts about his service?

Well, the fact that he acts so differently than just about everyone we all know who has served. If I claimed to be a fireman but you noted that I was a afraid of fire, wouldn't you doubt my claim?

Also, we've caught Rick in dozens of lies. I don't know about you, Sam, but I stop giving known liars the benefit of the doubt pretty quickly.

So, no, I'm not sorry I had doubts. Olney should be sorry for giving us doubts in the first place.

[TomStillwell]

The auction is ticking down. Just a few hours left. Bid now while you can.

The items without bids won't be listed again. I'll be buying them myself and donating the money. If you really want the items, the time is now.

[colleen]

Ditto.

And it certainly explains why he can't remember much about Norfolk, or its relative location to wherever he has been in Virginia, for that matter. He wasn't there long and he was there almost my entire lifetime ago.

Would have been easy to simply admit he doesn't really remember where the heck the place is. Why he had to lie about a non-conversation with me to prove how much he knew about the Tidewater area, a place I lived almost my entire life and about which he clearly knows almost nothing, is simply inexplicable by any standard of reason.

He was in the service, but he lied about the details. Pretty sad.

Why claim 7-8 years of service when he was in only 3? What the heck is up with that? If he claims in one post 7 years of service, then claims in another that he was in the Marines from 1971-1975, then we find out he was actually in from November 1972- November 1975, either we must conclude he is lying or he has a serious learning disorder.

Even if we add his later claim of one year in the National Guard (sometimes claiming two years), it's nowhere near 7-8 years.

Just plain daffy.

There's nothing wrong with only serving three years. Why lie about it? There's nothing wrong with being a clerk. Why lie about it?

It's not the record of service that bugs people. It's the lying about it.

[Inkpot1965]

Frankly, all his record of military service will prove is that a person can fall to amazing depths after serving his country. He left that service a LONG time ago, and has chosen a path no rational person would envy. My image of Rick these days is that of a man reduced to making 3rd grade level phone calls to people who've done him no harm. I'll be interested to see how that plays out leaggly.

[THEDOC]

A side note and a plea:

Please stop insinuating Jim Main's involvement with Rick!!!!!!!

Honestly that was more to Matt than anyone else, but I got an e-mail from Jim, he apperently has recieved word from Rick telling him we're picking on the esteemed Mr. Main.

Jim informs me that he has NOTHING to do with Rick. Please do not take his past association with him into conspiracy theory.

Jim Main is one hell of an individual, and someone I'm proud to know.

Rick is attempting his "divide and conquer" techniques so please do not give him fodder by making unfounded accusations especially on people that have donated so heavily to our cause.

I agree with Danny on this one, Jim has been nothing but a gentlemen with me and is even pubishing my Jerry Bails article.
I think Jim is like me and we try to see the good in folks and that they may turn away from their bad ways and be again, good members of Fandom.

[Gail Simone]

You know what, he served his country as a Marine. Whether it was delivering mail or actual combat really makes no difference to me. It's nice to know the truth, but I don't like the implication that just because he wasn't Sgt. Rock, that that somehow invalidates his service.

We've all seen what kind of person he is now. No sense in trying to diminish one of the things he did right, in my view.

It changes nothing about the behavior we've seen and personally experienced.

Gail

[colleen]

Actually, it does count.

This man claimed repeatedly that he had served in Viet Nam. IN Viet Nam, enjoying the favors of prostitutes there, apparently.

OK, am I the only person here that can do math?

His enlistment clearly states that he entered the Marines in November of 1972. Marine Corps basic training lasts three months.

The Paris Peace Accords were in January of 1973. Hostilities were suspended in February of 1973.

The last US troops withdrew in March of 1973.

He could not have served in Viet Nam as he claimed. Period.




That's a big deal. At least, in my book.

All he had to do was tell the truth.




c

[Howler]

For your amusement and to have them all in one place, a handful of Rick's own words on his military record to compare with the actual records.

Confined eh?

That's tough break. This is Rick Olney of the MMC. I actually served
four years active from 1971-1975, and got to see a little bit of Saigon.
I was a a 'good' Marine. :)

Semper Fi!

I have the proud distinction of being an honorably discharged veteran of the United States Marine Corps having served active during 1971 to 1975, finishing my 6 year obligation in 1977. I also served a year in the Army National Guard during the early 1980's. I'm proud of having served.

I am actually 53. I was an E-4 in just 13 months, including basic and speciality training. I took my NCO training at Ona Point on Okinawa, and was TDY for 4 months, along with 2 months in Korea, 30 days in P.I., and I saw Japan several times on R&R. Got two Meritorius Masts, and was up for Sargeant twice. 'Course, I had so much salt that the Staff NCO's treated me like a Sargeant. Stateside, I was TDY last at Camp Elmore. I also ran dispatches from Fleet HQ there at Norfolk, VA. Beyond that, I am like anyone else serving in the Marine Corps during that period of time.

I wasn't going to respond to this, but I have to now thank you for making me aware that several of the information slots on that 13164 are either incorrect, or not listed at all. I'll be contacting my local Veterans' group and Congressman to get the corrections made.

My discharge was Honorable. I served overseas TDY to the MP detachment at Camp Hanson. I went through training there at NCO and recon camp. I also served as a guard at (the now gone) Camp Butler. Camp Hanson was actually a major supply hub then. Hence the overseas service FPO address. It was the returning point for EVERYTHING from Viet Nam. I was a chaser to Nam for four months.

Well, back in 1971-73... I loved Asian women in Viet Nam, Japan, Korea, Okinawa, and the PI.

Didn't catch anything. Didn't want anything. Made lots of acquaintances...and only had to pay about 1/3rd of them.

I can recall one Veterans Day back in 1974, when I woke up and went out and ran around Norfolk, Virginia. My daily routine allowed me to add 18 miles on my running schedule. If you saw me today, you wouldn't believe it. That peacefulness that comes from running once you've settled into your stride and pace ... it always reminded me of death due to its timelessness.

I served in the Marines during Viet Nam and managed 4 mos "in-country" and try as I might, I can't help but feel it was all devised to draw us in.

[Gail Simone]

Truthfully, the marine thing just makes me a little sadder about the whole thing. My idea of the marines is completely informed by the former marines I know and those in my own family, and they're so still about honor and courage and integrity. Things Rick couldn't recognize or understand if they stapled them to his forehead.

Bleah, it's just sad.

Gail

[MacQuarrie]

You know what, he served his country as a Marine. Whether it was delivering mail or actual combat really makes no difference to me. It's nice to know the truth, but I don't like the implication that just because he wasn't Sgt. Rock, that that somehow invalidates his service.

We've all seen what kind of person he is now. No sense in trying to diminish one of the things he did right, in my view.

It changes nothing about the behavior we've seen and personally experienced.

Gail
As Colleen said, it's not that he wasn't Sgt. Rock, it's that he tried to make out that he was.

I would have a lot of respect for Rick's military record if he didn't try to pad it. Hell, it's better than mine. I turned 18 in 1976, and not only did I not enlist, I didn't even register for the draft as I was supposed to. I was what you might call "chickenshit." We were getting involved in places like Lebanon, Iran and Libya, and I wasn't about to go there.

In retrospect, I can see that it would have been a lot better for me, and for my country, if I had enlisted. I could be a lot further along in my career, I could have had a college degree and a lot of other opportunities, and the fact is I most likely wouldn't have ever been sent into combat. I most likely would have spent my enlistment working in some publications department as a graphic designer. I was young and stupid.

I'll give Rick credit for that; he had more guts and sense than I did at that time. Too bad he lost it along the way.

Anyway, he told (some of) the truth this time. And the sun shines on a dog's ass once in a while.

[colleen]

Truthfully, the marine thing just makes me a little sadder about the whole thing. My idea of the marines is completely informed by the former marines I know and those in my own family, and they're so still about honor and courage and integrity. Things Rick couldn't recognize or understand if they stapled them to his forehead.

Bleah, it's just sad.

Gail


Couldn't agree more. VERY sad. For some odd reason, I now feel pity for the guy.

Not that that lets him off the hook.

I feel sorry for the people he didn't pay.

But anyone who is this mentally disorganized and emotionally needy has my pity.

[Gail Simone]

As Colleen said, it's not that he wasn't Sgt. Rock, it's that he tried to make out that he was.

I would have a lot of respect for Rick's military record if he didn't try to pad it. Hell, it's better than mine. I turned 18 in 1976, and not only did I not enlist, I didn't even register for the draft as I was supposed to. I was what you might call "chickenshit." We were getting involved in places like Lebanon, Iran and Libya, and I wasn't about to go there.

In retrospect, I can see that it would have been a lot better for me, and for my country, if I had enlisted. I could be a lot further along in my career, I could have had a college degree and a lot of other opportunities, and the fact is I most likely wouldn't have ever been sent into combat. I most likely would have spent my enlistment working in some publications department as a graphic designer. I was young and stupid.

I'll give Rick credit for that; he had more guts and sense than I did at that time. Too bad he lost it along the way.

Anyway, he told (some of) the truth this time. And the sun shines on a dog's ass once in a while.


No, I understand that point, it's just that the bulk of the claim, that he was a marine, turned out to be true. Fine, good on him, it's not what the thread was ever about, and he certainly didn't help himself with all the bullshit he piles around every aspect of his life.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

From a PDF just sent to me....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070408-120629.jpg


Regarding Rick asking Dennis to comment on his veteran status.

And Dennis..we are trying to squeeze truth from a lying sack of crap...I mean, your good friend.


I have more PDF's to sort through with more goodies.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I posted this about 20,000 posts ago when Dennis 1st came on here. Its highly unlikely he'll ever call Rick on what he did. The 2 are close friends and he feels that everyone is attacking Rick for some slight , or this that and the other ...as they say.

Its a shame he's not coming across well in this. To Dennis , you gotta understand ... a lot of these people are owed money . They aren't exactly happy about the lies they feel Olney has done to them. And by being callous enough to claim they are "dinks" for wanting paid is just wrong.

Yeah we know Rick's your pal. But hell you could at least read why this thread is here . Instead your seemingly thinking its ok for no one to be paid for work done by a company your friend ran.

Come and respond to this. Mac and even I ( who barely commented on Ric's military status) now will apologize. He served and that at least was true. So does this wipe the slate clean with everyone he owes ?

[Tegan]

I'll admit I was wrong, but I won't be apologizing. It was a reasonable assumption given his history of lying, his refusal to provide any real proof himself, and his general scumbaggery.

Don't forget, this is a guy who tried to pass off a picture of other people serving as his own.

And, as others have pointed out, he still seems to be lying about some of the particulars of his service.

But he did serve.

Well, I apologize for not believing he served...

...Although his history of lying and some of his quirky ways of discussing service made me suspicious, and I really don't apologize for that.

[Reverend Smooth]

There's nothing wrong with only serving three years. Why lie about it? There's nothing wrong with being a clerk. Why lie about it?

It's not the record of service that bugs people. It's the lying about it.I've been thinking of a response, and colleen actually has been summing it up pretty well.

Furthermore--

The fact that he's a pathological -- and he is -- liar makes it difficult to take him at his word. Apologise for assuming that he's lying? Why? He always lies. He even lied about his military service.

Why? Self-aggrandizement. Everything is about that with him. It's a pervasive pattern with him.

It's sort of a roundabout method of star-fucking. "Look how awesome I am, these 'talents' all think I'm awesome!" But fundamentally, it betrays a lack of confidence. If he wasn't insecure about being a clerk in the army, he wouldn't inflate his record. If he wasn't insecure about his place in the industry, he wouldn't pull all the crap he has.

What's sad is that he's smart enough to do better. He could get remedial english classes. He could get script-writing classes. He could get business classes. He could get a job, like many other creators do, to actually pay people for their work.

But he doesn't. He lies.

So the fact that people didn't believe him about being in the military is, I'm sorry, not worth apologising about. The fact that he lied about what he did there and how long he was there makes it even harder to believe him. If he had been honest, however, he would have been believed.

People can apologise all they want-- magnanimity can be a good trait in a person. But don't castigate skeptics for disbelieving a proven liar who's lied about the very thing people have been criticised for not believing in.

I want to be magnanimous. But I also know that what Olney craves is validation. Even though I feel pity, and wish things could be happyfluffy wonderful, I believe that a person like that doesn't deserve any validation until he apologises and pays the people he's wronged.

People need to suffer consequences for the things that they do, or they will never change. Being nice and generous to him doesn't improve anything, he just takes advantage of it. Refuse to believe him by default until he stops lying. After he gets shut down repeatedly, maybe he'll actually stop.

So-- there is no point in apologising for not believing in him.

[Sparvid]

The Boy Who Cried Wolf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf):

The Boy Who Cried Wolf, also known as The Shepherd Boy and the Wolf, is a fable attributed to Aesop (210 in Perry's numbering system). The protagonist of the fable is a bored shepherd boy who entertained himself by calling out "wolf". Nearby villagers who came to his rescue found that the alarms were false and that they'd wasted their time. When the boy was actually confronted by a wolf, the villagers did not believe his cries for help and his flock perished. In some versions when the villagers ignore him the wolf either kills him, or simply mocks the boy saying that now no one will help him and that it serves him right for playing tricks. The moral is stated at the end of the fable as:

Even when liars tell the truth, they are never believed.

I can't say that I remember a version of the tale where the villagers apologize for not believing the boy the last time...

[KevinTBrown]

Look apologize all you want, but when he pulls shit like the following......Hey! Look at that! A picture to feed your greasy little imaginations!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORComx/18.jpg

Recognize anybody?

...you can't help but NOT call him a liar. Period.

So what if he actually was in the Marines? That doesn't put him above the law, nor does it erase years of abuse and lies heaped upon the people he walked over. It also doesn't make him a MARINE'S MARINE, but rather a guy who served the real fighting men and women from behind a desk.

Don't forget: Once a liar, always a liar.

[Gail Simone]

Goddamn it.

Okay, I give up on Dennis. I've tried every which way to excuse him, but he writes to ME that he knows about Rick's cheating people, and that he's followed the thread, and then the people Rick's cheated and lied to are 'Dinks' when he's in private.

Disgusting.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Look apologize all you want, but when he pulls shit like the following......

...you can't help but NOT call him a liar. Period.

So what if he actually was in the Marines? That doesn't put him above the law, nor does it erase years of abuse and lies heaped upon the people he walked over. It also doesn't make him a MARINE'S MARINE, but rather a guy who served the real fighting men and women from behind a desk.

Don't forget: Once a liar, always a liar.

Look, there's no doubt he's a liar, everyone knows it, even Dennis.

And that photo is another attempt to pretend to be a badass. I know all that. I just don't want to diminish the actual service of a marine, whether he pretended he was Rambo Von Hefner or whatever.

I can't find a single praiseworthy thing about the man other than that, if it helps, except he seems to love his kids.

Gail

[Lester C.]

Here is a random thought. If this thread ever gets deleted a lot of people are going to take major hits to their post count including Gail.

[Reverend Smooth]

. I just don't want to diminish the actual service of a marine, whether he pretended he was Rambo Von Hefner or whatever. I think that a lot of people can acknowledge that without feeling the need to apologise for disbelieving it, given the circumstances.

Lester-- I thought that deleted posts don't change the count?

[Gail Simone]

Here is a random thought. If this thread ever gets deleted a lot of people are going to take major hits to their post count including Gail.

Oh, THAT's going to keep me up nights!

:)

Gail

[TonyIsabella]

Goddamn it.

Okay, I give up on Dennis. I've tried every which way to excuse him, but he writes to ME that he knows about Rick's cheating people, and that he's followed the thread, and then the people Rick's cheated and lied to are 'Dinks' when he's in private.

Disgusting.

Gail

I couldn't agree more, though I wrote off Dennis months ago. Friendship is no excuse for condoning and supporting vile behavior.

I know.

I kicked a friend of four decades to the curb because he's a mean, nasty, and occasionally violent drunk who revels in the misery of others. The final straw was when he took delight in hearing that a mutual friend was dealing with his own drinking problem.

I know Herkimer is pretty small potaoes, but, even so, surely Dennis could have done better than the Vile One in the friend department.

Tony

[TomStillwell]

Goddamn it.

Okay, I give up on Dennis. I've tried every which way to excuse him, but he writes to ME that he knows about Rick's cheating people, and that he's followed the thread, and then the people Rick's cheated and lied to are 'Dinks' when he's in private.

Disgusting.

Gail

Dennis is an enabler. He's not a good friend to Rick. A good friend would try to help his friend do the right thing even if it caused problems in the relationship.

I count Jim MacQuarrie a good friend. I know that if Jim saw me going south he'd say something, he'd try to stop it, even if he had to be harsh with me. He wouldn't care if it caused some bumps. He'd do what needed to be done to help me be a good man. I'd do the same for him.

We can only assume a couple things about Dennis.

One, he doesn't care what happens to Rick as long as he's still counted as a buddy. That's pretty selfish.

Two, he's so weak willed that he needs to be Rick's little lackey. It is all he has.

Three, Dennis is as slimy as Rick and condones all that he does. If that's the case, we really need to start looking at Dennis and the ORCA charity fraud.

[Danny Donovan]

As Colleen said, it's not that he wasn't Sgt. Rock, it's that he tried to make out that he was.

Actually, he couldn't be Sgt. Rock even if he was telling the truth. Because Rock was an Army man, not a Marine. There is a bit of a rivalry between the branches so just clarifying... :p

Also, while I've had my fun at the expense of the ever changing story, the fact of whether he served or not was never a big deal to me. There are a lot of good people who have never been in the military, and there are a lot of good people who've been in, but never got to be the "action-hero" they may have wanted to be.

The fact is, I LIVE SURROUNDED BY MILITARY. Like Colleen I grew up here in the Tidewater area. I CAN SEE NORFOLK FROM MY DINING ROOM WINDOW!

(Also I need to PM Colleen about another interesting connection we share. lol.)

So I don't suffer people who claim distinction for being "the best of the best" and act like Rick has. Like I've said in the past, when you are in the military you learn some things about being the best aspect of who you are. You put aside ego, and your own well being to do a job that needs doing.

You don't go in expecting to have a good "story" to impress someone. You go in to do something to help another living person and make the world that much safer.

Rick reminds me of a person who went in to fill a void in his life and never got trusted with enough responsibility to have any real important missions so they take what little they were assigned and blow them out of proportion to get attention.

If I have said anything discouraging the idea of him serving I am sorry and apologize from the depths of my heart. Whether you shot down Nazi's over Paris or you just flipped burgers at the commisary you did something for your country and that's admirable.

However it does make all this even sadder.

I'm not saying everyone to ever serve is perfect. There have been folks that are not the greatest people ever to walk the earth. Like Steve said it doesn't make you a better person it just refines who you are. And the fact that this is the core of someone makes me weep for humanity. :p

[Matt Doc Martin]

Dennis is an enabler. He's not a good friend to Rick. A good friend would try to help his friend do the right thing even if it caused problems in the relationship.

I count Jim MacQuarrie a good friend. I know that if Jim saw me going south he'd say something, he'd try to stop it, even if he had to be harsh with me. He wouldn't care if it caused some bumps. He'd do what needed to be done to help me be a good man. I'd do the same for him.

We can only assume a coupld things about Dennis.

One, he doesn't care what happens to Rick as long as he's still counted as a buddy. That's pretty selfish.

Two, he's so weak willed that he needs to be Rick's little lackey. It is all he has.

Three, Dennis is as slimy as Rick and condones all that he does. If that's the case, we really need to start looking at Dennis and the ORCA charity fraud.


This is why I felt NO shame in submitting his name as well to the Attorney General. A "man" who says one thing to your face and another to his "buddy" is no man.

I tried to ask Dennis questions and he blew me off. So be it.

[Hybrid2]

glad someone else thinks it's crap....

Excuse me. O-o

what did you call poutine?
:mad:

[MacQuarrie]

It takes a person of true class and dignity to admit their error, Mac.

Best,

Samuel

No, it really doesn't. All it takes is a respect for the truth.

Some people have their entire being wrapped up in being right all the time and knowing everything all the time. If a person like that was handed irrefutable evidence that they were wrong about something, they would possibly ignore it, keep quiet about it, or set to work dissecting it looking for some angle or loophole whereby they can still claim to be right, or at least partially right, about whatever it is. Their whole identity is based on knowing everything and always being right.

I don't really care a lot about being right all the time, and I never pretend to know everything. I have no hesitation in saying "I don't know" or "I was wrong" when that's the case. It's far more important to me to tell the truth.

It really wasn't a difficult decision to post this stuff. In fact, it wasn't a decision at all. Facts are facts, and the truth is the truth, even when it isn't what I thought it would be.

I don't have to be right, I just have to be honest. And you know what? I used to be a very talented liar; I used to have to be right all the time, and I used to try to bluff and fake my way through rather than admit ignorance. Honesty is a hell of a lot easier.

I'm lazy enough to take the easy way. Lying and faking is hard work, and frequently leads to embarrassment and awkward moments. Honesty is easy.

[Lester C.]

I have the utmost respect for police officers, people in the military, firemen etc. Each person in those profession represent the very best humanity has to offer. Each of them is in a job where they are asked to fight and very possibly die a very painful lonely death. They all do the job for many reasons but they all do the job and do it with honor and distinction. Each and every one is better than me because I would only fight and die for my family and friends. They do it simply because their country and or city asks them too.

Here is the thing. People change. Just because Rick may have been a stand up guy three decades ago doesn't give him the right to act in a manner that causes me to think he is a human piece of garbage. Rick if you think you act in a manner consistent of a former Marine, who admittedly joined the service during a time of great strife, then you insult the memory of sixty thousand people who served their country in your era and never made it home alive.

[Magneto_X]

From the (thankfully) few conversations I had with Vile One, he's BIG on the whole conspiracy thing. Seems to think the worlds watching his every move and is waiting to pounce on him. According to him, there's folks out there just aching to hack into his computer and ruin his life (why, I would have no idea... he does that all by himself pretty well). All I'm saying is... the whole world doesn't hate him... yet... they just haven't met him. But once they do... welll.............

Paranoia, thy name is Olney.

Ironically he ended making this a reality. :D

[Magneto_X]

Hah ha...be fun to watch. I know Gail and others have said with J-Bolts ability to hype products that don't exist he'd be awesome at DC doing that. Can you imagine him at Conventions hyping this non-existant book with Olney ? It would be fun to watch. :)

I've said numerous times Fisher should stop "making comics" and go into P.R. *for* comics.

He seems to rarely use his one true talent re: doing publicity.

He's a decent penciller, too. He just needs more experience and training to sharpen his skills. But he needs to let other people (that aren't not Olney) write stories for him to do the art for.

[Magneto_X]

I think that a lot of people can acknowledge that without feeling the need to apologise for disbelieving it, given the circumstances.

Lester-- I thought that deleted posts don't change the count?

He might mean when the site gets another update.

All posts get deleted and everyone goes back to zero.

[DarrenCawsey]

No, Dennis, you are either wrong or lying here.

1. You did not inspire Free Comic Book Day. The founders of that event have described their inspiration for the event, and have never mentioned ORCA. At best, you came up with a similar idea at around the same time. It happens all the time, people in different locations coming up with the same idea independently of each other, like the X-Men and the Doom Patrol.

2. No, you did not create the Comics in the Classroom program. You created a comics in the classroom program, of which there are many, some of which were begun before you were born. Again, similar ideas arrived at independently.

3. Sites promoting free comics did not get the idea from you. They got the idea from the same place you got it. Giving away free stuff is a good way to attract attention and engage interest. Are you claiming to have invented the idea of the free gift now?

Please don't be Olneyesque in your claims.


Quoted for truth!!


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[singoalla]

I don't see the point in apologizing for doubting Rick's military service. Our actions shape how others view us. Rick's actions are those of a liar, and so we will view him as a liar, and consequently doubt everything he says, or at the very least take it with a grain of salt.

When a grown man can't learn the moral of the boy who cried wolf, all one can say is suit yourself, and no one should blame us for it.

[singoalla]

And since Rick is obviously an idiot of epic proportions and I like to google random things:


What makes a phone call harassing?

When someone calls and uses obscene or threatening language, or even heavy breathing or silence to intimidate you, you are receiving a harassing call. It is against the law in California and other states to make obscene or threatening calls. (California Penal Code section 653m, Penal Code section 422-422.1)

How often do I have to get these calls to make it harassment?

Just one unwelcome call can be harassing; but usually your local phone company will not take action unless the calls are frequent. However, if a call specifically threatens you or your family with bodily harm, the phone company will generally take immediate action.

from here (http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs3-hrs2.htm)

best wishes DocAbsurd. I hope all goes well.

[Matt Doc Martin]

And since Rick is obviously an idiot of epic proportions and I like to google random things:



from here (http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs3-hrs2.htm)

best wishes DocAbsurd. I hope all goes well.

And this is why you are queen of the geeks.

[singoalla]

:D

That and reading cbr at 01.00 in the am.

[Koben Kelly]

First of all, I do believe Rick Olney was in the Marines. The documentation that was presented here through the FOIA looks valid. From the little information it provides (a DD214 is always the best record of service), my guess is that Olney DID serve overseas during his service (the FPO address is a dead giveaway), and that he served in some sort of service and supply capacity -- most likely as a supply clerk or supply NCO.

I bow and will remain satisfied under the wisdom and experience that is Tom Waltz. Based on his knowledge of said matters, and his reluctance to make OKRA look good, I retract any statements of doubt in relation to OKRA's time in the Marines.

(But, can you blame a guy for doubting?)

[IvanJim]

I'm not looking to make this any nastier or more complex, but I can't help wondering why Rick enlisted with the Marines. I'm roughly the same age as Rick and as I recall most of the folks I knew who enlisted in any branch of the service other than the Army in the early seventies did so because they had a high draft number and didn't want to go into the Army which was considered by many back then to be the least desirable branch of service.

Most of my friends in this situation enlisted in the Navy and a few of them, much to their own surprise, loved it and became lifers. Some joined the Marines and one guy I knew was lucky enough to be accepted into the Air Force with a promise of Flight Training (which sadly was never fulfilled). This isn't meant to denigrate the service of these folks, Rick or any one else who served in any branch of the service. I'm just wondering whether Rick's patriotic service was by his choice or out of a desire not to be stuck in a worse situation, and whether his quick exit indicated that his departure was done as quickly as he could possibly manage not because he messed up in any form what so ever, but because it wasn't really his choice to be there.

I don't feel so much that this is an issue for folks today, who enroll in what's essentially a volunteer based service, but the questions do come to mind for me.The sad thing, though, is that If Rick were to post about his motivations I probably wouldn't believe him.

Maybe this is an aspect of this that there's no point in bringing up, but if we're to look at the what's and wherefores this is of interest to me.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Goddamn it.

Okay, I give up on Dennis. I've tried every which way to excuse him, but he writes to ME that he knows about Rick's cheating people, and that he's followed the thread, and then the people Rick's cheated and lied to are 'Dinks' when he's in private.

Disgusting.

Gail

Yeah well ...its sad really. As Tom has said he knows the score and knows why the people are mad at Olney. But he'd rather enable his friend and thinks those ripped off are dinks. Its sad and pathetic really.

I can understand supporting a friend. Sticking by them thru thick and thin at times. Ever see those people on that A & E show Addictions , Dennis ? See the hard stance when they realize their pals have crossed lines and need help. Either get treatment or the friendship is over ? How many times is that said to friends at times on there and alone ?

You could be honest with your pal. Tell him where he did wrong. Instead you seem to think its cool what happened. If this ever happens to you (and I don't wish it on any person) how will you feel ?

[MacQuarrie]

I don't see the point in apologizing for doubting Rick's military service. Our actions shape how others view us. Rick's actions are those of a liar, and so we will view him as a liar, and consequently doubt everything he says, or at the very least take it with a grain of salt.

When a grown man can't learn the moral of the boy who cried wolf, all one can say is suit yourself, and no one should blame us for it.

I didn't apologize for him. I did it for me. I think honesty is important, and if I'm wrong, I apologize, whether the other person deserves it or not.

[MacQuarrie]

I'm not looking to make this any nastier or more complex, but I can't help wondering why Rick enlisted with the Marines. I'm roughly the same age as Rick and as I recall most of the folks I knew who enlisted in any branch of the service other than the Army in the early seventies did so because they had a high draft number and didn't want to go into the Army which was considered by many back then to be the least desirable branch of service.
I bet a dollar his dad marched him down the the recruiting office as soon as he turned 18 and signed him up. I know a LOT of guys whose dads did that back then. "It'll make a man outta ya!"

[Matt Doc Martin]

I bet a dollar his dad marched him down the the recruiting office as soon as he turned 18 and signed him up. I know a LOT of guys whose dads did that back then. "It'll make a man outta ya!"

His dad wasn't the "stand up" kind of guy.

[Gail Simone]

I've said numerous times Fisher should stop "making comics" and go into P.R. *for* comics.

He seems to rarely use his one true talent re: doing publicity.

He's a decent penciller, too. He just needs more experience and training to sharpen his skills. But he needs to let other people (that aren't not Olney) write stories for him to do the art for.

J-bolt actually isn't any good at pr at all. What are the results of his efforts? No one on his website, no one asking for information about his products, and the only people who know he exists at all are making fun of him.

There are lots of people in comics good at pr. J-bolt's not one of them.

Gail

[Danny Donovan]

His dad wasn't the "stand up" kind of guy.

Matt, I wouldn't talk about someone's parents unless I knew something about them. Anyone who tries to blame being a failure on their parents is a just beyond failure. We all are responsible for our own lives.

There are a lot of us who have had really crappy family members that have done a number on us emotionally etc. but you are ultimately responsible for what you let it do to you.

I know a lot of really good people who have raised assholes. It's not their fault the kid just didn't listen. You can only do so much and hope they turn out alright.

If they don't you can't blame yourself because they have to make their own choices at some point.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Matt, I wouldn't talk about someone's parents unless I knew something about them. Anyone who tries to blame being a failure on their parents is a just beyond failure. We all are responsible for our own lives.

There are a lot of us who have had really crappy family members that have done a number on us emotionally etc. but you are ultimately responsible for what you let it do to you.

I know a lot of really good people who have raised assholes. It's not their fault the kid just didn't listen. You can only do so much and hope they turn out alright.

If they don't you can't blame yourself because they have to make their own choices at some point.

Just trust me on that one, Danny.

[Gail Simone]

Again, in my opinion, serving his country as a marine is hardcore admirable, whether he was the gallavanting James Bond in camo he claims, or a guy delivering packages. I'd just as soon consider this aspect of inquiry closed, really.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

Again, in my opinion, serving his country as a marine is hardcore admirable, whether he was the gallavanting James Bond in camo he claims, or a guy delivering packages. I'd just as soon consider this aspect of inquiry closed, really.

Gail

Agreed. He lied about what he did, how long he was in, etc. But more importantly, he is still a slimeball that will never willingly pay what he owes.

[Gail Simone]

I've let Dennis know that calling the people Olney cheated 'dinks,' is the last straw.

Dennis, if you'd stood up and said, back at the convention I regretfully attended, what you told me AFTER about Rick's consistant pattern of non-payment, you would have saved me hundreds of dollars and two years of aggravation, lies, and insults.

But you were not man enough, and because of that, dozens more people have been cheated since.

You picked your side. I'm very disappointed.

Gail

[DungeonmasterJim]

In case people care about Olney's latest blog:

Sunday, April 08, 2007

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So the world needs to bow to the great talent that is "Gail Simone" ... as she espouses logic in trying to get between two friends now that the whole "Rick Olney Marine or Not" thing is settled. Read this, my comments are emboldened:

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Goddamn it.

Taking the Lord's name in vain on EASTER!? Shame! Shame!

Okay, I give up on Dennis. I've tried every which way to excuse him, but he writes to ME that he knows about Rick's cheating people, and that he's followed the thread, and then the people Rick's cheated and lied to are 'Dinks' when he's in private.

Disgusting.

No, not disgusting unless you're looking in a mirror,"Gail"... course you writing under a pen name for as long as you have probably means that you're ashamed of some part of your REAL life past or present.

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Look apologize all you want, but when he pulls shit like the following......

...you can't help but NOT call him a liar. Period.

So what if he actually was in the Marines? That doesn't put him above the law, nor does it erase years of abuse and lies heaped upon the people he walked over. It also doesn't make him a MARINE'S MARINE, but rather a guy who served the real fighting men and women from behind a desk.

Again, I tell you that you are STILL perpetuating a lie in attacking me publicly regarding my military service. I can prove what and where I served. This is what makes you a member of a HATE group, Kevin.

Don't forget: Once a liar, always a liar.
Look, there's no doubt he's a liar, everyone knows it, even Dennis.

And that photo is another attempt to pretend to be a badass. I know all that. I just don't want to diminish the actual service of a marine, whether he pretended he was Rambo Von Hefner or whatever.

No, if you study the photo it'll give up clues.Show it to Dennis and see what he think. Look at each Marine in that picture.

I can't find a single praiseworthy thing about the man other than that, if it helps, except he seems to love his kids.

How nice of you. What an ego inflated, donut dunkin', bloviating piece of crap you are, "Gail"... Why don't you share your REAL NAME with your readers? Maybe I'll just start my own little campaign of HATE against you?

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[Matt Doc Martin]

In case people care about Olney's latest blog:



DM Jim

I love how he references the picture that he had FUCK ALL to do with.

And Gail, Dennis is a weasley little turd. But it's ok. Everything he touches will turn to shit JUST LIKE RICK.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh, and I love his Taking the Lord's name in vain on EASTER!? Shame! Shame! bit.

Rick: Are you Wiccan, Christian, or what?

Pick a religion that you will follow none of the tenets of and stick with it, k?

[KevinTBrown]

Hey, now he's attacking me! :D

Ricky-poo, you're still not a "Marine's Marine", but like the little servant boy for those who actually held a gun and used it to protect their fellow Marine. But, hey, it's not all about what you do, it's who you do it to, right....? :rolleyes:



So, now that the question has been finally answered, you're finally going to pay up all that you owe.

:::::chirping crickets::::

Hmmm, guess not.... But no surprise there. Only a "Marine's Marine" would actually pay what they owe.

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070408-212341.jpg


Another quiet dig from Olney from MMC.


Dennis toadies up in the next comment.

Keep weeding, Rick. You'll get your mole!

[Gail Simone]

Heh.

The debtmonkey's really on one. :)

"How nice of you. What an ego inflated, donut dunkin', bloviating piece of crap you are, "Gail"... Why don't you share your REAL NAME with your readers? Maybe I'll just start my own little campaign of HATE against you?"

Rick, I don't know if you've taken a look at yourself in a mirror lately, but again, you insulting someone's appearance is...well, sorry, but it's hilarious. But hey, be sure to wear more sweaty, dirty Ben Grimm shirts, or maybe a Batman tee for formal affairs! I heard K-mart's GIVING away those stupid-looking fucking baseball caps you wear, hurry scurry, peanut!


And Rick, maybe you haven't noticed? You're not scary. I find you hysterically funny. Go ahead, wage your campaign. You're the most loathed and untrustworthy man in comics right now, which is quite an accomplishment considering you're a lone weirdo with no actual record of achieving anything. Has anyone, for one moment, believed I was ever the least bit scared of ol' Rick "I Swear to You, The Check's In The Mail" Olney? The Man That Decency Forgot?

At the end of the day, Rick, you don't keep promises, you cheat everyone you meet, and you lie and sputter about it like a child, and not a very well-spoken child at that.

And we get it, you learned an insult word and have actually managed to use it correctly in several posts. Well done! What a descriptive bloviation! I would say you're wearing the same dress to the office a few times in a row, but hey, I've seen your scripts and any achievement on your part is cause for celebration

You're still a barely literate moron.


Pay your debts, why don't you? You are no man at all until you do, just a creepy little mangy weirdo with too many Spider-man t-shirts and not even spine.

Pay your debts. Then everyone forgets you exist, just as no one knew you existed before.

Pay your debts.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

Again, I tell you that you are STILL perpetuating a lie in attacking me publicly regarding my military service. I can prove what and where I served. This is what makes you a member of a HATE group, Kevin.

Kevin, I know how devestated you must be by this. If you need anything, we are all here for you.

[Chris Hansbrough]

Hey, now he's attacking me! :D


let me ask Kevin....do you actually give a damn?

[Gail Simone]

A "Simone" moment.

How funny.

Every con I've ever attended has invited me back, every single one.

INCLUDING dipshit Rick's. He begged me to attend his next fake event, even tried implying it's the only way I'd get paid.

'Special prep?'

I forget, is that the meals you didn't organize, the ride that picked me up almost an hour late, the hotel so disgusting a guest slept in her car, the hotel you didn't book and when you finally found a vacancy, your credit card was rejected?


Ah, those wonderful "Olney" moments.

Google your name, Rick. You'll find nothing but utter disgust and stories from people you've cheated.

You got your wish, you're famous in the industry you have done so little for.

Too bad it's all disgust and repulsion.

Good luck on the dirty Ben Grimm t-shirt sale!

Gail

[KevinTBrown]

Kevin, I know how devestated you must be by this. If you need anything, we are all here for you.

*snifle*

Yes.

*choke*

I can barely go on I'm so... so... hurt to the core.



Life holds no meaning to me now.....

I need to go.










So, enough of that, what's for dessert now? :)

[Gail Simone]

Why, here's a letter...how odd!

Rick asking me to attend his next flopapalooza, and notice he hasn't paid, AND again claims he'll pay my husband's way!

But...but...that would make him a disgusting LIAR, wouldn't it?


But he implied that I was such an awful guest--how odd that he would ask me to attend his next con!






Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:31:53 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: "Rick Olney" <cynergy54@earthlink.net> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "Gail Simone" <gail@gailsimone.com>
Subject: Re: Didcha get it?

Glad you got it, Gail.

I'm not done repaying you. In fact, I need the remaining balance on
your monies owed and I'm planning on reimbursing you for Scott's plane
fare too.

I DID enjoy having you both here, and if you'll consider it and allow
me... I'd like to bring you back next May to the bigger MMC being held
in Syracuse, New York. We'll have 12 times the comic book retail support
in the greater Syracuse area, and airfare and accomodations will be
provided up front. Additionally, guests on the upper echelon are getting
one hundred dollars upon check-in to cover their meal expenses. No
reimbursing this coming year. :)

Let me know if you're interested and don't forget to give me the other
figures. Thanks.

Regards,
--Rick

[KevinTBrown]

Love this bit:

We'll have 12 times the comic book retail support


Note to Ricky-poo: 12 times zero? Still zero, bud.


:D

[Gail Simone]

Interesting...I found a letter where he sorta bashes the other Orca people.

What a weirdo. It's like when he tried, out of the blue, to blame all this on Dennis. Suddenly, it was all DENNIS's responsibility, never mind that Dennis had nothing to do with it and Rick had been breaking promises for two years straight (with that manly old standard, "The check's in the mail," no less).

Like a flip had switched, and he realized he could throw a friend under the bus to move blame away from himself.

KLASSY!

Gail

[Gail Simone]

I will say again that the things other people were in charge of tended to run right. It was Rick who had his head so far up his own ass he thought he took a wrong turn to Colonville.

Except for the first hotel, which was a disgusting dump, I gather that was Dennis' responsibility. But at least he booked it and his credit card wasn't denied.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

Maybe I'll just start my own little campaign of HATE against you?

Ya know, he has already threatened your career by organizing his followers. And look....you are leavinb BoP....to move on to what you say is the biggest assignment of your career so far.


Now he is forming a hate group against you. Have you ever thought about going into politics? Olney could help you get into the whtiehouse.

[OzBat!]

That blog gets more hilarious by the day. Hey Rick! What happened to the posts about Tim before you went into raving denial about phone calls? Maybe you're having trouble remembering which ones... you DO delete so many, after all!

I mentioned this about... oh, 20 thousand posts ago: I don't give a damn about your marine service. In fact, actually having served as a marine in the dim dark distant past makes your present all the more reprehensible. REAL MARINES STAND BY THEIR WORD. They don't run around deleting all trace (wrong! we've got copies!) of their words as soon as they're caught out in a lie. They make good on their debts. A promise is just as good as a written contract, and an NDA isn't something a marine hides behind.

You coward. You hide behind this crap, and dodge and whine and cuss and make pathetic phone calls when it doesn't all go your own way.

It's no wonder nobody believed you about your service record. REAL MARINES everywhere would be vomitously ill to be linked to you in any way, shape or form, after your actions of the last half-dozen years or more. You are without honour. None. Your current actions cancel out anything you could hope to wangle from meritous service over 30 years ago.

"Marine's Marine". Heh. In your dreams only. All you have left as a marine is the bit of paper framed on your mantlepiece. Whereas thousands of marines carry their reputation and honour intact in their daily lives and in their actions with others.

And Mr Wiccan? Why are you invoking the Lord this Easter? Want to make up your mind which religion you're using as cover for your cretinous lies and deceit this month?

[Chris Hansbrough]

Interesting...I found a letter where he sorta bashes the other Orca people.

What a weirdo. It's like when he tried, out of the blue, to blame all this on Dennis. Suddenly, it was all DENNIS's responsibility, never mind that Dennis had nothing to do with it and Rick had been breaking promises for two years straight (with that manly old standard, "The check's in the mail," no less).

Like a flip had switched, and he realized he could throw a friend under the bus to move blame away from himself.

KLASSY!

Gail

he's a classy guy gail......after all what's classier than relying on weight insults to counter any points against him. If there is one thing I learned from my little sister it's that when people get called on their bull shit they resort to whining, insults, and scapegoatery rather than defending their points with facts......Then again a lot of people grow out of that after middle school.....guess some people just ever grow up.....childish...like a petulant whiney little girl

[Cam63]

So Olney was actually a member of the USMC !? Holy fuck, colour me shocked that he told the truth for once !

...That certainly doesn't make up for the piece of shit he is now and has been for some time.

[wishlish]

In case people care about Olney's latest blog:



DM Jim
Is Olney trying to claim that the photo is his again, even though it's been discredited as coming from another blog?

And personally, I'm offended at Rick's terminology of "hate group". Usually, a "hate group" is a group of people that hate a wide selection of people based on a common trivial aspect- i.e. skin color, sexual prejudice, religion, etc. Those people, more commonly known as bigots, are wrong to hate, because they're hating people based on physical characteristics, and not actions.

Anyone who's a member of the Rick Olney Hate Group (TM) hates Rick purely because of his words and actions. We hate him because he's a smelly, misogynistic, deadbeat, mega-gigantic fibber, not because he's white, pagan, Christian, or smelly. Wait, okay, smelly's a good reason.

I personally am proud to be a card-carrying member of the Rick Olney Hate Group. It's not illegal, it's not immoral, and it's not wrong. As Wilford Brimley would say, "It's the right thing to do, and a tasty way to do it, too."

Actually, I need a card. Anyone got a card for ROHG? We can carry it to conventions. It's a badge of honor, really.

[Gail Simone]

Ya know, he has already threatened your career by organizing his followers. And look....you are leavinb BoP....to move on to what you say is the biggest assignment of your career so far.


Now he is forming a hate group against you. Have you ever thought about going into politics? Olney could help you get into the whtiehouse.

I know!

I'm so terrified of his fan! His fan is massing an attack! His fan is gathering steam and...wait...

No, he left.

Gail, scared of Rick's former fan

[wishlish]

Rick Olney: I'd like to call a meeting of the Quote Gail Simone Unquote Hate Club. All in favor, say aye!

Crickets: chirp chirp

Rick: DENNIS!

Dennis: Oh, sorry. I was too busy cleaning your boots with my tongue. By the way, Your Majesty, I was impressed with your use of the word "bloviating". You actually used a real word, and used it as intended in the dictionary.

Rick: Of course I did. I'm the greatest writer since Quote Stan Lee Unquote.

[OzBat!]

I'm so terrified of his fan! His fan is massing an attack! His fan is gathering steam and...wait...

No, he left.He should get a badge made up.

A Former Fan of Rick Olney. AFFRO! It'd be a collectors piece too, a break the mold after casting, one-off limited edition one-of-a-kind!

I worry about AFFRO though. Too many chances of it being affiliated with that obvious token hairdresser moving on up to one of DC's premier assignments. That would be totally unfortunate!

[wishlish]

I know!

I'm so terrified of his fan! His fan is massing an attack! His fan is gathering steam and...wait...

No, he left.

Gail, scared of Rick's former fan

He needs that fan. It blows the stink off him.

Oh, you meant the other type of fan.

[Chris Hansbrough]

He needs that fan. It blows the stink off him.

Oh, you meant the other type of fan.

damn you beat me to the joke......grrrrr

[KevinTBrown]

It's ok, he still needs a fanbase to hold it up.


:D

[Gail Simone]

Rick Olney: I'd like to call a meeting of the Quote Gail Simone Unquote Hate Club. All in favor, say aye!

Crickets: chirp chirp

Rick: DENNIS!

Dennis: Oh, sorry. I was too busy cleaning your boots with my tongue. By the way, Your Majesty, I was impressed with your use of the word "bloviating". You actually used a real word, and used it as intended in the dictionary.

Rick: Of course I did. I'm the greatest writer since Quote Stan Lee Unquote.

Even in that case, he used it AFTER someone correctly used it here.

English is his Kryptonite.


Kind of a serious weakness when one is a wannabe writer.

Gail

[Coppervale Studio]

I've heard Rick actually has SEVERAL fans - but no one outside of the Mohawk Valley has met them, because they never leave the area.

Otherwise, their ankle bracelets go off, and then they have to explain why they're all wearing the Anime outfits.

[TonyIsabella]

Y'know, I'm one tired guy right now. As you'll read in tomorrow's TOT, I had a crazy busy weekend. I just finished the first part of a major assignment. I'm ready for bed. Then I check in here for a WTF? moment.

What does the Vile One have against Alex Saviuk? I've worked with Alex a few times. He's a terrific artist and a good guy. Salt of the earth and all.

Why slam Alex to take a shot at Gail?

I'm not sure "worthless" is sufficient to describe how utterly without merit Rick Olney is.

Tony

[Danny Donovan]

Y'know, I'm one tired guy right now. As you'll read in tomorrow's TOT, I had a crazy busy weekend. I just finished the first part of a major assignment. I'm ready for bed. Then I check in here for a WTF? moment.

What does the Vile One have against Alex Saviuk? I've worked with Alex a few times. He's a terrific artist and a good guy. Salt of the earth and all.

Why slam Alex to take a shot at Gail?

I'm not sure "worthless" is sufficient to describe how utterly without merit Rick Olney is.

Tony

Maybe Alex wouldn't come to his con? :p

[KevinTBrown]

Even in that case, he used it AFTER someone correctly used it here.

English is his Kryptonite.


Kind of a serious weakness when one is a wannabe writer.

Gail

I love "bloviating". :) It's such a great word. I use it all the time at work to confuse the hell out of one person because he has no frikkin' clue as to what it means.... and he's too damn lazy to look it up! :p



Ok, now back to our regularly scheduled Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber.

[KevinTBrown]

Maybe Alex wouldn't come to his con? :p

Of course not. Only guys who collect Matchbox cars go to them now......

[TCJohnson]

Tony Isabella has cooties!



(I'm starting a Tony Isabella hate group to boost his career. Who is with me?)

[KevinTBrown]

Tony Isabella has cooties!



(I'm starting a Tony Isabella hate group to boost his career. Who is with me?)

Don't you mean "Tony Isabella"? That's the only way I can see it ever being taken seriously.

Seriously.

[Danny Donovan]

Don't you mean "Tony Isabella"? That's the only way I can see it ever being taken seriously.

Seriously.

No, you also need at least 15 porn model myspace accounts on your top friends list to be taken for serious.

Totally, totally cereal you guys.

[KevinTBrown]

No, you also need at least 15 porn model myspace accounts on your top friends list to be taken for serious.

Totally, totally cereal you guys.

And don't forget an awsum handul ov the Englissh langwage two!

[TCJohnson]

Don't you mean "Tony Isabella"? That's the only way I can see it ever being taken seriously.

Seriously.

This is true. We don't know if "Tony Isabella" is really "Tony Isabella." That nose and mustache has to be fake.

[TonyIsabella]

This is true. We don't know if "Tony Isabella" is really "Tony Isabella." That nose and mustache has to be fake.

I'm actually a 22-year-old lingerie model.

"Tony Isabella"

[Danny Donovan]

And don't forget an awsum handul ov the Englissh langwage two!

And the leggagle teems! And, and the psycho therapists.


(no the space was not a typo)

"I'll take The Rapists for $500 Alex"

"That's not the rapists it's therapists Connory, you know that."

[Koben Kelly]

"I'll take The Rapists for $500 Alex"

"That's not the rapists it's therapists Connory, you know that."

That's not what your mother said, Trebeck. Hoo-hah-hah-hah!

[Inkpot1965]

I'm actually a 22-year-old lingerie model.

"Tony Isabella"

Prove it. Post pictures.

[ArchetypeOne]

OH NOES!!!1oneeleventy. I stepped forward and *gasp* chosen sides!!! I played neutral until the truth came out just so I could stay in touch w/DOC Boucher and Doc Absurd in order to receive promised pin-ups for my rather miniscule small press pub, MR. EMERGENCY back when the swath was cut in early '05 in small press. Lance came through and I certainly in no way, shape, or form fault Doc_A for not following through. So sorry for the stupid stuff you went through, Tim, and yeah, we've discussed this in other online chat situations.

I realize that may be confusing - re-read it again slowly.

I review small press stuff for Dimestore/SPA/Ian Shires and self-publish that Mr. E thing that I mentioned earlier.

I might be the one whom RO borrowed the phrase "hobby" from. Can't prove it. Please don't throw things. Long story. Used to be on chats and forums with him saying such stuff. Yeah, I draw and write a bit on my own time for my own amusement. No huge goals.

I've met Jim Main, Ian Shires, and (extremely earlier poster to THE THREAD) Trevor Frick in person. GREAT GREAT guys all around. Floyd Sumner still plays neutral. Eh.

GAIL! And Kurt Busiek, as well as Mark Waid: it was wonderful and amazing to meet and talk with you all at Emerald City! Gail! Lemme know what you think of Mr. E. No big deal.

My commitment: buy at least 2, maybe 3 of UNSCREWED! the anthology for myself and to give as gifts.

Rick: do what is right, sir.

- W

[Night Swordsman]

I'm actually a 22-year-old lingerie model.

"Tony Isabella"

And all this time i thought you were Sam Elliot.

I am SHOCKED! :eek:

[Coppervale Studio]

Prove it. Post pictures.

Dude. My love for Tony is second to none - but this may be one of those 'Zen' things where the immaculate, perfect ideal is better experienced as a concept rather than a reality.

Just sayin'.

[Gail Simone]

OH NOES!!!1oneeleventy. I stepped forward and *gasp* chosen sides!!! I played neutral until the truth came out just so I could stay in touch w/DOC Boucher and Doc Absurd in order to receive promised pin-ups for my rather miniscule small press pub, MR. EMERGENCY back when the swath was cut in early '05 in small press. Lance came through and I certainly in no way, shape, or form fault Doc_A for not following through. So sorry for the stupid stuff you went through, Tim, and yeah, we've discussed this in other online chat situations.

I realize that may be confusing - re-read it again slowly.

I review small press stuff for Dimestore/SPA/Ian Shires and self-publish that Mr. E thing that I mentioned earlier.

I might be the one whom RO borrowed the phrase "hobby" from. Can't prove it. Please don't throw things. Long story. Used to be on chats and forums with him saying such stuff. Yeah, I draw and write a bit on my own time for my own amusement. No huge goals.

I've met Jim Main, Ian Shires, and (extremely earlier poster to THE THREAD) Trevor Frick in person. GREAT GREAT guys all around. Floyd Sumner still plays neutral. Eh.

GAIL! And Kurt Busiek, as well as Mark Waid: it was wonderful and amazing to meet and talk with you all at Emerald City! Gail! Lemme know what you think of Mr. E. No big deal.

My commitment: buy at least 2, maybe 3 of UNSCREWED! the anthology for myself and to give as gifts.

Rick: do what is right, sir.

- W


Welcome, W!

I haven't had a chance to read the comics I was given yet, but I hope to do that by the coming weekend.

And good for you for doing what some people don't seem to be ABLE to do, which is stand up AGAINST cheating liars!


Gail

[Blake Petit]

Maybe Alex wouldn't come to his con? :p

Well, no. Alex actually works in comics and has a modicum of common sense. He's ineligible.

[Gail Simone]

I'm still laughing about the debtmonkey's notion of 'special prep.'

Guy screwed up every aspect, I mean EVERYTHING was the work of a complete and utter incompetent, and yet he thinks he did 'special prep.'

SNORK!

I guess it makes SENSE that he's failed at everything.

Gail

[ArchetypeOne]

Welcome, W!

I haven't had a chance to read the comics I was given yet, but I hope to do that by the coming weekend.

And good for you for doing what some people don't seem to be ABLE to do, which is stand up AGAINST cheating liars!


Gail

Glad to be aboard, Gail. Yeah, plently of friends and TRUE family are here. Cool, please lemme know what you think of MR. E, thanks. - W

[Larry Dixon]

Hey Gail---I once got smeared for being unprofessional and MEAN by an event organizer because---get this---I didn't freak out sufficiently over the surprise birthday cake they had made for me.

I'm serious.

It's also the same event that stiffed Misty & me on some of our expenses. Long-gone and history, now, but laughable in retrospect.

So it's not just The Defendant who pulls silly stuff like that.

[Coppervale Studio]

His idea of 'Special Prep' is not even up to the level demanded by the simple courtesy I think should be extended to drop-in guests. Much less those who are meant to be honored at an industry event.

[Larry Dixon]

They can call it Schroedinger's Cat's Comics & Stories. It comes in a plain cardboard box, and can only be enjoyed fully by not opening the box to see if the comic is there. It thus exists in an unseen, unchanging state of beauty and perfection.

The talking fish in the story inside is simultaneously in a state of being alive and being dead, much like The Defendant's attorneys are simultaneously suing everyone and utterly imaginary.

It's diabolical genius, truly.

As for going after The Defendant, Doc, Matt, Tom & crew, I paraphrase Brody from JAWS:

"We're gonna need a smaller boat."

[TomStillwell]

Chalk up another $600+ for the Unscrewed auctions.

Th auctions will be on hiatus until my stockpile regrows.

Damn, that sounds all sci-fi sexy. Scifiexy.

[Larry Dixon]

You can't help it, Tom. You make everything you say and touch---oooo especially touch---sexy. It's your curse. It's just the way it is.

Six Hundred Dollars, from kind people to good people, to turn bad times into good. That's like Jimi Hendrix' guitar pick, Robert Palmer's suit, Neal Peart on drums kind of groovy.

Steak dinner's on me Tom, for doing such a fantastic deed in handling the auctions.

[wishlish]

Even in that case, he used it AFTER someone correctly used it here.

English is his Kryptonite.


Kind of a serious weakness when one is a wannabe writer.

Gail

I was wondering about that. It seemed out of his range. Kind of like Ed Wood directing Citizen Kane.

[Tegan]

According to him, there's folks out there just aching to hack into his computer

ACK! Why would anyone want to hack into Olney's computer? We'd be completely disgusted by what we find there, and have to scrub our eyeballs afterwards...




...I mean, you can only take so much of Olney's Mary Sue writing.

[CutterMike]

In case people care about Olney's latest blog:

...

No, if you study the photo it'll give up clues.Show it to Dennis and see what he think. Look at each Marine in that picture.

...

DM Jim


I'll admit that I may not be the smartest person here, but I'm not sure what clues we're supposed to get from this picture.

According to the guy who FIRST posted it here (http://www.grunt.com/scuttlebutt/marine-corps-bs/3rddiv2.asp) - and kudos, again, to KevinTBrown who found it (when I couldn't, *grumblemuttercurse*) - this photo is him and the rest of his group at their base in Phu Bai in 1969.

Rick's service record shows that he enlisted in 1972.

Somehow, a photo of a group of Marines named Welbaum, Kirkendall, Montgomery, Kennedy, Cox, Gonzales, and Wilson, taken when Rick was 14 or 15 (and presumably in 9th or 10th grade in Mohawk, NY) is supposed to prove that he served in 'Nam...

Norman... correlate...

[Danny Donovan]

ACK! Why would anyone want to hack into Olney's computer? We'd be completely disgusted by what we find there, and have to scrub our eyeballs afterwards...




...I mean, you can only take so much of Olney's Mary Sue writing.

There's worse stuff on there I'm sure.

:p

[Darediva]

I will say now that I am just catching up on posts since late Friday. For the first time in nearly a decade, my family was in one place at the same time. I have been away from the computer completely.

Good job finding the info about Rick's Marine service, since he did not find it necessary to tell us the straight story in hardly any form.

UA, Corporal? Tsk, tsk. Not quite the meritorious masts you kept touting, eh?

I never said you didn't serve. I said I doubted your service and asked for proof from YOU. You gave none. Only when someone else went digging did they find anything, and it's hardly what you had claimed.

Sounds to me like you must have had a very low draft number. Maybe you should have just gone across to Canada.

End of comment.

[Danny Donovan]

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20070407.jpg

Ha!

sound like anyone?

[Sarah Beach]

That's a very funny find, Danny! Dare I say... LOL! ;)

The nature of the subject's military service has always been a side matter for me. It only had importance in that he used it as a way of somehow boosting his credibility and status. So, like many people he served in the military. Not so big a deal, in the long run - particularly since it seems to have been without much note. It has become a non-matter to me.

More bothersome is his harrassing call to DocA. That's a new level of lashing out, in a disturbing direction. Let's not get diverted from that. In spite of the subject's denying making the call, DocA has given cause for narrowing the suspect field down to the subject himself. And given DocA's situation, I think he has reason for making that deduction. Besides which, I trust DocA in this matter.

It amuses me that he's now saying that he's expecting the Unscrewed! anthology to be a failure because DocAbsurd is the EIC. It is such a laugh, because he seems to think that DocA is doing this all by himself! Well, doofus, it's a team effort, and we are all working along together pretty well. Yeah, it takes time, but it continues to shape up pretty well. (Oh, and so much for his "I support Unscrewed's efforts" comment that he made in the Unscrewed! Yahoo group ... just last week! Some support - tell the EIC he's going to fail. Right.)

I've had a lovely Easter day. So when I came online this evening, I found it very, very funny that Mr. Wiccan-this-week,Christian-next-week decides to chastise Gail for using "goddammit". Gail, who doesn't make professions of belonging to a group for whom that would indeed be inappropriate. Way to miss the target, paramecium. That said, as a Christian myself, I was not personally offended by Gail's outburst under the specific circumstances there.

What a tiresome blot upon the face of existence he is.

[JamesRitcheyIII]

Y'know, I'm one tired guy right now. As you'll read in tomorrow's TOT, I had a crazy busy weekend. I just finished the first part of a major assignment. I'm ready for bed. Then I check in here for a WTF? moment.

What does the Vile One have against Alex Saviuk? I've worked with Alex a few times. He's a terrific artist and a good guy. Salt of the earth and all.

Why slam Alex to take a shot at Gail?

I'm not sure "worthless" is sufficient to describe how utterly without merit Rick Olney is.

Tony

Alex Saviuk is a gracious, kind, humble, talented, inquisitive and bright man--everything Ricky-Boy is not. I don't know how they might have met, but Olney is pretty predictable in his contempt--it can be for a perceived slight, or no reason at all, and he stays angry at anyone with talent and/or success, who isn't stroking the totally erroneous, megalomaniacal delusion that he has any talent.

I sat next to Alex at Megacon in the artists' alley two years ago, and he lettered this note for me for the Green Lama, freebie:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m231/jamesritcheyiii/GREENLAMA1web-3-copy.jpg

[Danny Donovan]

I've had a lovely Easter day. So when I came online this evening, I found it very, very funny that Mr. Wiccan-this-week,Christian-next-week decides to chastise Gail for using "goddammit". Gail, who doesn't make professions of belonging to a group for whom that would indeed be inappropriate. Way to miss the target, paramecium. That said, as a Christian myself, I was not personally offended by Gail's outburst under the specific circumstances there..

Even Jesus said "Oh my... DAD!"

:D

I for one am looking forward to Tim's findings.

[Darediva]

That's a very funny find, Danny! Dare I say... LOL! ;)

The nature of the subject's military service has always been a side matter for me. It only had importance in that he used it as a way of somehow boosting his credibility and status. So, like many people he served in the military. Not so big a deal, in the long run - particularly since it seems to have been without much note. It has become a non-matter to me.

More bothersome is his harrassing call to DocA. That's a new level of lashing out, in a disturbing direction. Let's not get diverted from that. In spite of the subject's denying making the call, DocA has given cause for narrowing the suspect field down to the subject himself. And given DocA's situation, I think he has reason for making that deduction. Besides which, I trust DocA in this matter.



Very, very true.

[Coppervale Studio]

Whether or not Rick served, and to what degree has been entirely irrelevant for me, except in the fact that by not being more forthright about it himself, he has underlined the question marks attached to everything else.

He seems to rail that everyone here is against him for (he claims) invalid reasons. He says that NDA's were broken - and perhaps they were.

But -

He has not made a single payment to ANYONE who worked for him, including those who DIDN'T break NDA's, all the while boasting about hiring new talent and planning a new convention - both of which take money.

Just look at the flurry of acknowledgements (if not apologies - not that any were warranted) that accompanied PROOF he was in the military. The topic has dominated the board.

ONE payment to ONE creditor, made public, would do the same. EVERYONE would have to acknowledge him FINALLY coming through with SOMETHING.

Oh, I doubt it'll happen. Stupid people often choose defiance to their own end. They see acquiescing as weakness - when it is really strength to acquiesce to what is right.

[Danny Donovan]

Whether or not Rick served, and to what degree has been entirely irrelevant for me, except in the fact that by not being more forthright about it himself, he has underlined the question marks attached to everything else.

He seems to rail that everyone here is against him for (he claims) invalid reasons. He says that NDA's were broken - and perhaps they were.

But -

He has not made a single payment to ANYONE who worked for him, including those who DIDN'T break NDA's, all the while boasting about hiring new talent and planning a new convention - both of which take money.

Just look at the flurry of acknowledgements (if not apologies - not that any were warranted) that accompanied PROOF he was in the military. The topic has dominated the board.

ONE payment to ONE creditor, made public, would do the same. EVERYONE would have to acknowledge him FINALLY coming through with SOMETHING.

Oh, I doubt it'll happen. Stupid people often choose defiance to their own end. They see acquiescing as weakness - when it is really strength to acquiesce to what is right.


why, oh why must you use such big words? :p

[Coppervale Studio]

why, oh why must you use such big words? :p

Because - it'll take Rick twice as long to discern it was a letter not of praise, but of criticism.

"Blah blah blah blah Rick blah blah blah..."

He'll stop reading after the word 'payment' anyway.

[Danny Donovan]

Because - it'll take Rick twice as long to discern it was a letter not of praise, but of criticism.

"Blah blah blah blah Rick blah blah blah..."

He'll stop reading after the word 'payment' anyway.

After "payment" he just went to his happy place of asian hookers that accept NDAs. :p

[SUPERECWFAN1]

This came to me as I was sitting here. With the San Diego Comic Con , coming up I know how Rick could realistically pay everyone and actually ...help his image. In fact he could even help restore his company to the good graces of fans.

Its clear he's got tons of that angry "what a bastard heel " heat right now. Why not start touring conventions staging "Pro Wrestling " matches. Now hear me out , Rick doesn't need to be in great shape to do it at 52. All he needs is to take a few falls , learn to take kicks/punches well and he could play "Heel/bad guy" to a section of fans. For the weekend they can do a show every day the Convention is there.

He could go to Chicago and put on a show. Someone like Doc Absurd could be the "Face/Good Guy" in this and sell tickets alongside the convention. With attendance at these cons being big perhaps they could draw enough fans tickets wise to pay everyone. (charge $10 bucks a ticket)

Rick could sell Tightlip t-shirts , comics as well as the others selling UNSCREWED,T-shirts ...books ect ect. He likely could by all rights pay everyone if the tickets go good , and everyone turns some good merchindice money as well.

Its juts an idea and it would be silly to see him in a pro wrestling match. But with the kinda heat he has on him ...it could draw pretty good at a comic covention.

[Danny Donovan]

Its juts an idea and it would be silly to see him in a pro wrestling match. But with the kinda heat he has on him ...it could draw pretty good at a comic covention.

Wouldn't work. He's got "X-PAC heat" everyone just wants to see him go away. :p

Which you know isn't fair, because Sean Waltman wasn't that bad, creative just ran out of things to do with him after DX broke up. :p

Anyway, while I'm sure there are a few people that wouldn't mind an "extreme rules" match. It wouldn't solve anything

What would really solve things is having him pay what he owes and gives up the ghost of trying to do anything with comics. :p

[Darediva]

This came to me as I was sitting here. With the San Diego Comic Con , coming up I know how Rick could realistically pay everyone and actually ...help his image. In fact he could even help restore his company to the good graces of fans.

Its clear he's got tons of that angry "what a bastard heel " heat right now. Why not start touring conventions staging "Pro Wrestling " matches. Now hear me out , Rick doesn't need to be in great shape to do it at 52. All he needs is to take a few falls , learn to take kicks/punches well and he could play "Heel/bad guy" to a section of fans. For the weekend they can do a show every day the Convention is there.

He could go to Chicago and put on a show. Someone like Doc Absurd could be the "Face/Good Guy" in this and sell tickets alongside the convention. With attendance at these cons being big perhaps they could draw enough fans tickets wise to pay everyone. (charge $10 bucks a ticket)

Rick could sell Tightlip t-shirts , comics as well as the others selling UNSCREWED,T-shirts ...books ect ect. He likely could by all rights pay everyone if the tickets go good , and everyone turns some good merchindice money as well.

Its juts an idea and it would be silly to see him in a pro wrestling match. But with the kinda heat he has on him ...it could draw pretty good at a comic covention.

I know you are a big wrasslin' fan, but this one takes the cake. The big guy would never be able to take the first toss. He'd have to have a stand in. Then it would lose all the impact (pun intended). ;)

[wishlish]

ONE payment to ONE creditor, made public, would do the same. EVERYONE would have to acknowledge him FINALLY coming through with SOMETHING.



I don't think so. We're beyond the one payment to one creditor stage. He needs to make good with all of the creators he claims didn't break the mythical NDAs and actually bring legal action against those that he claims did break the NDAs (even though we all know the judge will laughlaughlaugh at him). Then he won't be a misogynistic, smelly, no-attorney-ass, deadbeat, lyingliarlying mega-giganta-fibber. He'll just be a misogynistic, smelly, no-chance-in-hell-of-winning clueless idiot. For Rick, that'll be an improvement.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Wouldn't work. He's got "X-PAC heat" everyone just wants to see him go away. :p

Which you know isn't fair, because Sean Waltman wasn't that bad, creative just ran out of things to do with him after DX broke up.

Anyway, while I'm sure there are a few people that wouldn't mind an "extreme rules" match. It wouldn't solve anything

What would really solve things is having him pay what he owes and gives up the ghost of trying to do anything with comics. :p

Yeah just trying to think of a solution that could help the guys get a lot of the money owed in a quick way. By taking a Pro Wrestling style ass whuppin from either Doc or perhaps Chuck Dixon , with Gail being the promoter in a way ...it could be fun and odds are repair his image .

I'd love to see Dixon cut a promo : "Olney by the time I get done with you after this match , your gonna wish you stayed in the Marines. "



I know you are a big wrasslin' fan, but this one takes the cake. The big guy would never be able to take the first toss. He'd have to have a stand in. Then it would lose all the impact (pun intended). ;)

It would only work if Olney takes the loss. He'd have to understand the finish is that Dixon needs to put him down . He's playing the bad guy heel so he'd get his spots in a lot.

Odds are he won't do it. Plus I doubt anyone could find a wrestling ring and promote this on such short notice. Bute hey it would be fun and the money raised by both sides could pay the talents involved in a quick fashion. :)

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Whether or not Rick served, and to what degree has been entirely irrelevant for me, except in the fact that by not being more forthright about it himself, he has underlined the question marks attached to everything else.

He seems to rail that everyone here is against him for (he claims) invalid reasons. He says that NDA's were broken - and perhaps they were.

But -

He has not made a single payment to ANYONE who worked for him, including those who DIDN'T break NDA's, all the while boasting about hiring new talent and planning a new convention - both of which take money.

Just look at the flurry of acknowledgements (if not apologies - not that any were warranted) that accompanied PROOF he was in the military. The topic has dominated the board.

ONE payment to ONE creditor, made public, would do the same. EVERYONE would have to acknowledge him FINALLY coming through with SOMETHING.

Oh, I doubt it'll happen. Stupid people often choose defiance to their own end. They see acquiescing as weakness - when it is really strength to acquiesce to what is right.

I'd have shut up long ago if I heard from someone that he paid them. At the very least, there'd be the benefit of the doubt on his side and he'd be written off as someone who meant well.

That was before St. Judes and Doc A however...Now I see him as a bully, a coward and a liar and until he chooses to change his behavior, that's all he'll be. Which is just sad really. As stated many times by me, I have no idea how he sleeps at night.

JP

[Draconomicon]

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This is HILARIOUS!
Especially since its HIS name that is now a synonym for "despicable behavior".
Just ask the people at newsarama. I have to chuckle everytime they go about "That was pretty Olney", latest in regards to Pat Lee.

Dude, no one will go "That was a Gail moment!", no matter how much you try to push it. Rick Olney, YOU are the guy who doesnt pay people, who lies to a FATHER in DESPERATE NEED For money to feed his friggin CHILDREN, make him WORK for you, days straight, and then STILL dont pay him the money you promised. Do you even listen? YOU seem very pretty ok with lying and having CHILDREN STARVE!

Why was that?
Was it because his name didnt sound 'american' enough?

...why the hell do you think anyone would ever take anything you could say serious after such a horrible act? How the fuck can you even look into a mirror without wanting to bash your own face in after making a father of hungry children work for you and then not paying him, no matter how desperately he needed the money to pay for food...

You want to go "SHAME! SHAME!"?
You obviously dont know anything about shame, or you would pay those people... you are a disgrace to the human race.


I mentioned this about... oh, 20 thousand posts ago: I don't give a damn about your marine service. In fact, actually having served as a marine in the dim dark distant past makes your present all the more reprehensible. REAL MARINES STAND BY THEIR WORD. They don't run around deleting all trace (wrong! we've got copies!) of their words as soon as they're caught out in a lie. They make good on their debts. A promise is just as good as a written contract, and an NDA isn't something a marine hides behind.


Something to keep in mind.
Thousands of people, from all over the world, will by now, have heard of this thread, will have read it, will have LEARNED how awful a person Rick Olney is. But that is not the end of it. Seeing how Olney tries to *PUSH* himself being a 'Marines Marine' he disgraces also every Marine who knows honor and dedication to his country and his family.

People see two things: Olneys terrible behavior and his constant claims to be what a Marine should be like. He is not only damaging himself, but also hurts and taints the reputation of the US marine corps with his actions.

Food for thought, I'd say...

[Draconomicon]

I mentioned this about... oh, 20 thousand posts ago: I don't give a damn about your marine service. In fact, actually having served as a marine in the dim dark distant past makes your present all the more reprehensible. REAL MARINES STAND BY THEIR WORD. They don't run around deleting all trace (wrong! we've got copies!) of their words as soon as they're caught out in a lie. They make good on their debts. A promise is just as good as a written contract, and an NDA isn't something a marine hides behind.


Something to keep in mind.
Thousands of people, from all over the world, will by now, have heard of this thread, will have read it, will have LEARNED how awful a person Rick Olney is. But that is not the end of it. Seeing how Olney tries to *PUSH* himself being a 'Marines Marine' he disgraces also every Marine who knows honor and dedication to his country and his family.

People see two things: Olneys terrible behavior and his constant claims to be what a Marine should be like. He is not only damaging himself, but also hurts and taints the reputation of the US marine corps with his actions.

Food for thought, I'd say...

[Draconomicon]

I'm actually a 22-year-old lingerie model.

"Tony Isabella"

"Why, Hello. Heaven must weep for its Angels walk the earth"
*eyebrow waggle*

[Cam63]

I'm still laughing about the debtmonkey's notion of 'special prep.'

Guy screwed up every aspect, I mean EVERYTHING was the work of a complete and utter incompetent, and yet he thinks he did 'special prep.'

SNORK!

I guess it makes SENSE that he's failed at everything.

Gail

Well, he's still breathing on his own at least.

[Cam63]

Truthfully, the marine thing just makes me a little sadder about the whole thing. My idea of the marines is completely informed by the former marines I know and those in my own family, and they're so still about honor and courage and integrity. Things Rick couldn't recognize or understand if they stapled them to his forehead.

Bleah, it's just sad.

Gail

Exactly.

A person who learns to serve with honour will conduct themselves so until death.

Olney is anything but honourable.

[Cam63]

Anyway, he told (some of) the truth this time. And the sun shines on a dog's ass once in a while.

That needs to go on a T shirt.

[Cam63]

Goddamn it.

Okay, I give up on Dennis. I've tried every which way to excuse him, but he writes to ME that he knows about Rick's cheating people, and that he's followed the thread, and then the people Rick's cheated and lied to are 'Dinks' when he's in private.

Disgusting.

Gail

Yeah, I've never known " dink " to be used as anything but an insult.

Hey, Dennis... Fuck you.

[Cam63]

I have the utmost respect for police officers, people in the military, firemen etc. Each person in those profession represent the very best humanity has to offer. Each of them is in a job where they are asked to fight and very possibly die a very painful lonely death. They all do the job for many reasons but they all do the job and do it with honor and distinction. Each and every one is better than me because I would only fight and die for my family and friends. They do it simply because their country and or city asks them too.

Here is the thing. People change. Just because Rick may have been a stand up guy three decades ago doesn't give him the right to act in a manner that causes me to think he is a human piece of garbage. Rick if you think you act in a manner consistent of a former Marine, who admittedly joined the service during a time of great strife, then you insult the memory of sixty thousand people who served their country in your era and never made it home alive.

Good post, Carthan.

[AIPman1]

Glad to be aboard, Gail. Yeah, plently of friends and TRUE family are here. Cool, please lemme know what you think of MR. E, thanks. - W

Hi Wade!!!!! For those that don't know, the esteemed Mr. Archetype...he was a member of the "Seattle Four" that brought forth Comics Fandom Examiner (C F/X) in the 90's. I'm pleased as punch to have him on board as Review Co-ordinator for Self Publisher! Magazine.

Wade, I'll have the review system back in action ASAP on the new server (for those not following closely - the Dimestore site crashed under the weight of heavy traffic on our shared hosting account, and had to invest in a dedicated server, cause Small Press Idol has exploded this year. We have 69 teams going into Round 2, last year we had 30.

Anyway, just wanted to say Hi to Wade, wish I could have made that show, but I'll be at Dayton (Gem) this coming weekend, and Columbus (SPACE) the weekend following, with SP! #50 and Small Press Idol books, and more!

[KevinTBrown]

Yeah, I've never known " dink " to be used as anything but an insult.

Hey, Dennis... Fuck you.

Hey, I'm definitely a DINK.

Double Income, No Kids.

:D

[Dreadstar]

I decided to post this bit of anectdote from this weekend, even though I know it goes against prevailing thought in the thread.

I met with my lawyer this weekend. Nevermind what for. We had a few wings and some beer and talk went everywhere across tha board as usual. He's into immigration law right now but does a fair bit of contract law on the side. He mentioned something that reminded me of the Olney skips out in Florida thing and I ask him if I were summoned to appear in small claims in Florida over a matter of $1500 (doesn't really matter the real amount, now does it?) would he suggest my flying down to appear.

"Why? Do you want to? If not, I'd say no."

I asked him why and he said that the Florida court had no jurisdiction to collect. I mentioned that well, they can file with a local court or service or however it's done here in Columbus.

"Yep. And *that's* when you go to court and challenge."

I mean, I don't know how far into his beer he was and how much was simple lawyer bluster, but the guy never lead me wrong before, y'know? I never did think to ask him about whether or not my lawyer should send a missive to the Florida court in advance of the hearing, because a Robert Cray song came on and we immediately launched into a blues rock guitarist discussion. C'est la vie.

[Cam63]

Hey, I'm definitely a DINK.

Double Income, No Kids.

:D

I'm a SITFNK, then.

...Single Income Thank Fuck, No Kids.

[Inkpot1965]

Dude. My love for Tony is second to none - but this may be one of those 'Zen' things where the immaculate, perfect ideal is better experienced as a concept rather than a reality.

Just sayin'.

I'm envisioning a "whip off the rubber mask" moment here. Could be a supermodel living a secret, normal life disguised as a comic writer. Who would suspect?

[TCJohnson]

I'm envisioning a "whip off the rubber mask" moment here. Could be a supermodel living a secret, normal life disguised as a comic writer. Who would suspect?

If you change that to artist, you just describe Nicola Scott.

[Cam63]

If you change that to artist, you just describe Nicola Scott.

Those 12 years in the Merchant Marines were good preparation.

[Inkpot1965]

If you change that to artist, you just describe Nicola Scott.

As long as the face under the mask is nice, I"m there.

[TomStillwell]

I decided to post this bit of anectdote from this weekend, even though I know it goes against prevailing thought in the thread.

I met with my lawyer this weekend. Nevermind what for. We had a few wings and some beer and talk went everywhere across tha board as usual. He's into immigration law right now but does a fair bit of contract law on the side. He mentioned something that reminded me of the Olney skips out in Florida thing and I ask him if I were summoned to appear in small claims in Florida over a matter of $1500 (doesn't really matter the real amount, now does it?) would he suggest my flying down to appear.

"Why? Do you want to? If not, I'd say no."

I asked him why and he said that the Florida court had no jurisdiction to collect. I mentioned that well, they can file with a local court or service or however it's done here in Columbus.

"Yep. And *that's* when you go to court and challenge."

I mean, I don't know how far into his beer he was and how much was simple lawyer bluster, but the guy never lead me wrong before, y'know? I never did think to ask him about whether or not my lawyer should send a missive to the Florida court in advance of the hearing, because a Robert Cray song came on and we immediately launched into a blues rock guitarist discussion. C'est la vie.

That's definately something a lawyer would advise...but also with the provision that the court is contacted and aware of your choice.

You don't feel a need to go? Don't. But you contact the court and make that known. You just don't blow off a summons.

Because when the matter comes up in your home court how do you think the judge views the fact you defaulted a case? That you didn't respect the court enough to contact them? How do you think your case will go with that already on the judge's mind?

So yeah, a lawyer might advise you not to go. They wouldn't advise you to blow off a summons.

[Dreadstar]

I don't know, Tom. I didn't ask. I'm not convinced that the local court would even care about the Florida case specifics, really. More whether or not the case for dismissal has merit.

[TomStillwell]

I don't know, Tom. I didn't ask. I'm not convinced that the local court would even care about the Florida case specifics, really. More whether or not the case for dismissal has merit.

They would care. Judges really don't like mucking up the decision of another judge if it can be helped.

[Dreadstar]

They would care. Judges really don't like mucking up the decision of another judge if it can be helped.

I have to take your word for that. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.

[TCJohnson]

Another thing to remember it changes from state to state. You said Columbus...do you mean Ohio? Might be different in NY. : shrug :

[Gail Simone]

Jesus, he used 'bloviating' again.

It's like a monkey with only one toy.

RICK.

English has LOTS OF WORDS.


Gail

[Blake Petit]

I'm a SITFNK, then.

...Single Income Thank Fuck, No Kids.

I'm a teacher, so I suppose that makes me an IINK.

(Inadequate Income, No Kids.)

[Flamebird]

Jesus, he used 'bloviating' again.

It's like a monkey with only one toy.

RICK.

English has LOTS OF WORDS.


Gail


But he can only ruin so many at a time. Gee, what do you think, he's a writer or something? :rolleyes:




*secretly suspects that rick needs a new word of the day calender*

[rummblestrips]

I'm self employed
that makes me LONMATTATT
Little or No Money and Too tired All the Time

[Gail Simone]

Rick has a crush on Dreadstar, and it's adorable!

So CUTE!

Gail

[Flamebird]

Rick has a crush on Dreadstar, and it's adorable!

So CUTE!

Gail


HUH?






ICK!!!


Dear Dreadstar, You have my condolences. ;)

[Gail Simone]

I just found out how such a babbling doofus could use a word like 'bloviating' correctly.

It's because he saw it here!

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KevinTBrown
My give a damn's busted.




Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicagoland!
Posts: 449

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The following quote absolutely killed me:


Quote:
Do you think that they really want to see the talents involved paid? I don't think so.



Olney, please, stop trying to think..... Oh wait, you did that already.

Anyway, EVERYONE here wants you to pay up. Period. End of paragraph.

So stop bloviating and pay what you owe. The less time you waste in writing bad commentary, the more time you'll have in order write good checks (checks that people can actually CASH!), and the sooner everyone stops talking about you.

And I think everyone here can agree that NOT talking about you any more would be a good thing....... "


Maybe if we all started using longer words, he wouldn't be forced to inflict his horrendous grammar and made up English on us all, 'cause he could just cruise here, and cut and paste!

Gail

[Gail Simone]

I just found out how such a babbling doofus could use a word like 'bloviating' correctly.

It's because he saw it here!

"04-05-2007, 10:47 AM #23727
KevinTBrown
My give a damn's busted.




Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicagoland!
Posts: 449

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The following quote absolutely killed me:


Quote:
Do you think that they really want to see the talents involved paid? I don't think so.



Olney, please, stop trying to think..... Oh wait, you did that already.

Anyway, EVERYONE here wants you to pay up. Period. End of paragraph.

So stop bloviating and pay what you owe. The less time you waste in writing bad commentary, the more time you'll have in order write good checks (checks that people can actually CASH!), and the sooner everyone stops talking about you.

And I think everyone here can agree that NOT talking about you any more would be a good thing....... "


Maybe if we all started using longer words, he wouldn't be forced to inflict his horrendous grammar and made up English on us all, 'cause he could just cruise here, and cut and paste!

Gail

[KevinTBrown]

:D

And here people thought I was good for nothing....

[Dreadstar]

Rick has a crush on Dreadstar, and it's adorable!

So CUTE!

Gail

Yeah, well he's got about a snowball's chance with me. Damned Marines are notorious for not giving reach-arounds.

[MacQuarrie]

An excellent suggestion, the zenith, I'd opine. Those who have the linguistic capacity should make every effort to overwhelm the poor knave's deficient lexicon with our own prodigious vocabularies.

He might accidentally acquire a few new bon mots to add to his repertoire, but more likely he'll simply be baffled by what seems to him incomprehensible verbiage. Elevating the level of discourse would be the functional equivalent of putting it in a foreign language.

Be it hereby resolvd: I shall endeavor to include as many terms of three or more syllables in every missive I submit to this dialogue. I exhort others to do likewise.

[Gail Simone]

Yeah, well he's got about a snowball's chance with me. Damned Marines are notorious for not giving reach-arounds.

He thinks you're S.M.A.R.T. and he'd like to take you for walks and put his head on your shoulder and give you MUCHAS SMOOCHAS!

That's what I heard!

What a bloviating descriptive!

Gail

[KevinTBrown]

An excellent suggestion, the zenith, I'd opine. Those who have the linguistic capacity should make every effort to overwhelm the poor knave's deficient lexicon with our own prodigious vocabularies.

He might accidentally acquire a few new bon mots to add to his repertoire, but more likely he'll simply be baffled by what seems to him incomprehensible verbiage. Elevating the level of discourse would be the functional equivalent of putting it in a foreign language.

Be it hereby resolvd: I shall endeavor to include as many terms of three or more syllables in every missive I submit to this dialogue. I exhort others to do likewise.

Your loquaciousness astounds and astonishes me to no end. The wonderment of your terminology and vocabulary is a sight to behold.

[TomStillwell]

He thinks you're S.M.A.R.T. and he'd like to take you for walks and put his head on your shoulder and give you MUCHAS SMOOCHAS!

That's what I heard!

What a bloviating descriptive!

Gail

He wants to take him back to the Nook.

[Reverend Smooth]

The result of our sudden pleonastic prolixity is probably gonna be that we're all gonna start talking as circumlocuitously as Olney if we keep it up. ^^

[Blake Petit]

You know what I think would be funny? If we deliberately used a few words incorrectly, just to see if he picked up on 'em. I think that would be especially obsequious of us, don't you?

[KevinTBrown]

You know what I think would be funny? If we deliberately used a few words incorrectly, just to see if he picked up on 'em. I think that would be especially obsequious of us, don't you?

I think that would be very enact and erogenous of you to do.

[TomStillwell]

I think that would be very enact and erogenous of you to do.

What propensity you distribute, sir!

[Sally Sensational]

OMG! The ghost of Mrs. Malaprop rears its hideous ectoplasmic head!

Seriously, people. I love you.

MacQ, you're a genius.

Recommended Reading: I Always Look Up the Word Egregious: A Vocabulary Book for People Who Don't Need One by Maxwell W. Nurnberg.

[TCJohnson]

Sally Sensational: Not only pulchritudinous, but a provenience of erudition if ever there was one.