Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[JTPencils]

FINALLY... after repeated attempts at getting an answer from der Stinkmeister... he finally states how we all broke his pwecious NDA...

"...Meanwhile -- the much discussed NDA's actually did prevent conversation, of any kind, without prior approval of TightLip Entertainment."

Ya see, we were all supposed to become MUTE as soon as we signed. Any indication of speech or carrying on of any conversation after that moment... without his express permission of course...immediately made the entire shebang null and void!!

Gracious!!




BTW... what I REALLY want to know is.... Gail.. do you really stand on your porch and shout out "Avengers Assemble"?? That would be just too cool!!

[Blake Petit]

BTW... what I REALLY want to know is.... Gail.. do you really stand on your porch and shout out "Avengers Assemble"?? That would be just too cool!!

And yet when I shout "Shazam!", I just get weird looks...

[Flamebird]

FINALLY... after repeated attempts at getting an answer from der Stinkmeister... he finally states how we all broke his pwecious NDA...

"...Meanwhile -- the much discussed NDA's actually did prevent conversation, of any kind, without prior approval of TightLip Entertainment."

Ya see, we were all supposed to become MUTE as soon as we signed. Any indication of speech or carrying on of any conversation after that moment... without his express permission of course...immediately made the entire shebang null and void!!

Gracious!!




BTW... what I REALLY want to know is.... Gail.. do you really stand on your porch and shout out "Avengers Assemble"?? That would be just too cool!!


I always thought she just sat in her wheelchair, put on her headset and called in the Birds.:)

[Gail Simone]

Actually, that’s not my interest. There’s a huge difference between judgments and payment and I don’t think Olney will ever pay a dime. I think it’s all water under the bridge. Anyone chasing him for cash runs the serious risk of throwing good money after bad.

My interest is to drag him out of the cave and into the light. Once seen in his true form, people will learn the need to shun him and banish him from the tribe. Then, hopefully, no one else will have to suffer as many on this board already have.

I don't see what that has to do with socks. And how come we never have worked together, Smith? What are you trying to hide?


Gail

[JTPencils]

And yet when I shout "Shazam!", I just get weird looks...

Blake, it's not so much the "Shazam" shout... it's the fact you're standing in 15 degree weather on the porch, in Grrrranimals undies that is earning you the strange looks. At least put a cape on or tie a towel around your neck fer Pete's sake!

[Coppervale Studio]

Um... so did he win by default, or by using evidence? Who needs evidence in a default judgment? :confused:

Brilliant...

I don't think it's been looked at in that way before - but you're right.

It WOULDN'T matter what the evidence was on the opposing side, if the defendant doesn't bother to show.

Don't appear = default judgment.

Period.

[Comcman]

And yet when I shout "Shazam!", I just get weird looks...

And you have to say it with conviction. Not "Shazayum!"

[Howler]

I found these pages for Tales of The Spooky #2 from one of Rick's many MySpace pages.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p1small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p2small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p3small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p4small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p5small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p6small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p7small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p8small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p9small.jpg

I can't seem to find who the artist is. Anyone know? Without Rick's writing to mess it up, I actually like most of the art.

I'm assuming this is supposed to be Rick? Perfect likeness.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p1small.jpg

[JamesRitcheyIII]

Nice piece, James. I'm already running bits of Black Lightning business in my "Tony's Online Tips" columns. Maybe I should start including BL art by fans of the character or my own bad, industry-ruining self.

Mind if I use this piece?

Tony

Thanks for the compliment, Tony, and it would be my privilege for you to use this.

This image just stayed in my head since last week when you were talking about the travails with DC, and it had to come out. An alternate blurb was Showdown in Suicide Slum. My reach may exceed my grasp, here, but...um...I'd letter it, if you'd dialogue it...:D

You should ask Jeff Austin to ink it (yes Jeff--I'm evil).

I'm a little hazy on the 'Fair Use' aspects of using BL, Superman and the Guardian, but I'd offer it for the auctions, if possible...

[Matt Doc Martin]

I like how he states he is "saber rattling"

saber rattling:

A flamboyant display of military power; also, aggressive blustering. For example, There had been a great deal of saber rattling between the two nations but hostilities had never broken out. This term, originating about 1920 and alluding to an officer indicating he would draw his saber, at first referred to threatening military force but later was extended to more general use, as in Both candidates engaged in pre-debate saber rattling.

(emphasis mine)

Since we know he has fuck-all to do with the military, I guess he falls into the "blustering" category.

Or, sound and fury signifying NOTHING.

[Gail Simone]

I found these pages for Tales of The Spooky #2 from one of Rick's many MySpace pages.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p1small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p2small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p3small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p4small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p5small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p6small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p7small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p8small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p9small.jpg

I can't seem to find who the artist is. Anyone know? Without Rick's writing to mess it up, I actually like most of the art.

I'm assuming this is supposed to be Rick? Perfect likeness.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p1small.jpg

Now THIS story has very nice art AND takes the time to do proper establishing shots. Did Rick actually write this one?

Gail

[Blake Petit]

Blake, it's not so much the "Shazam" shout... it's the fact you're standing in 15 degree weather on the porch, in Grrrranimals undies that is earning you the strange looks. At least put a cape on or tie a towel around your neck fer Pete's sake!

I live outside of New Orleans. Last time we saw 15 degree weather there were still mastadons migrating across the continent. :D

[MacQuarrie]

ONE HAS TO WONDER...
Category: Life

QUOTE OF THE DAY: "Olney's writing couldn't be more distinctive if he typed in day-glow chartreuse." ~ Jim "Rant-Man" MacQuarrie
That's not a compliment.

Let me clarify. Your writing is distinctive in the same way a dead skunk is distinctive. There's no way to mistake it for anything else. No way to pretend it's anything other than what it clearly is. Your writing is so distinctively "you" that you simply can't pretend to be anyone else. As soon as your fingers hit the keyboard, your sock-puppet identities are exposed. You're the only guy near comics who can't differentiate between "distinction" and "extinction" or "recant" and "recount" to cite but two examples. You can't fool anybody with any of your fake identities. That's what I meant by "distinctive."

Initially this effort on CBR by "Gail Simone" was to try and shame me into dropping my legal stance against some talented artists and writers involved in my Tales of The Spooky book. As the conversation originally began on the Chuck Dixon DIXONVERSE message board, and began with Dixon breaking his non-disclosure agreement to my company. It didn't take long for Dixon (and his moderators) to shit-spin the the fact that he hadn't been paid. After trading a few words with Dixon, he and I agreed to have our legal representation handle the unresolved matter. Then the behind-the-scenes talk began.

I contend, as I will legally, that "Gail Simone" only involved herself because she was attempting to help Dixon cover his ass. Dixon knows that he broke his agreement, or does he? Meanwhile -- the much discussed NDA's actually did prevent conversation, of any kind, without prior approval of TightLip Entertainment. The NDA was communicated to each talent. If Dixon never got an NDA then he never had a contract with me in the first place. As Dixon knows, neither of us can have it both ways. So Dixon's efforts through his writer friend flunkies and main Dixonverse moderator, Sarah Beach was only to complicate and confuse the matter legally. That much is clear, yet a primary question remains:

You should really talk to an attorney. A real one, not a search of wikipedia.

We'll go over it one more time...

1: A non-disclosure agreement does not prevent anyone from discussing non-payment or any other issues that aren't trade secrets. It protects proprietary information only. Chuck Dixon did not violate any agreements when he stated that you stiffed him.

2: If Dixon didn't sign an NDA, then he didn't violate anything.

3: Failing to sign an NDA, or breaking one, does not alleviate you of your responsibility to pay for work performed. Even if he broke it, you still have to pay him. Then you can sue him for damages.

4: If he performed the work you requested, and you accepted the work, then you have a de facto contract. Period. Since your de facto contract didn't include an NDA, you are SOL (shit outta luck). You have to pay him.

So why hasn't Dixon, in all his grandness, filed an action against me?
Maybe he thinks you're not worth the hassle? Maybe he's too disgusted by you to want to deal with it anymore? Maybe he has enough work from reputable publishers that pay their bills that he doesn't need your money? Maybe he knows you haven't got a pot to piss in and doesn't want to garnish your wife's paycheck out of compassion for your kids? Doesn't much matter why. The fact that he hasn't sued you doesn't mean you didn't screw him over.

And where do writers like Mark Waid, Scott Shaw, Tony Isabella, and Kurt Busiek fall into this matter? Did "Simone" shout the "Avengers Assemble!" from her front porch while clutching a box of donuts to excite and entice them? No, they just think that belonging to a hate group is cool, I guess. I can't think of anyone else during my 48 years of being involved in the hobby of comics that, after setting in motion and attempting to produce comics independently, has gotten such attention.
Maybe they think you're a blight on the industry. Maybe they think you're an asshole. Maybe they just hope to protect some aspiring young creators from being afflicted with the disease that is Rick Olney.

So what do they really want?
For you to fall off the planet? Or at least for you to shut the hell up and go the hell away and stop annoying people? For me, seeing you have another heart attack would be enough.

How much more ignorant and insulting can they be? Do they realize that while they're focused on me, that other people are studying them? The assumption by them that I imaginary legal counsel is a huge mistake on their part. And the other people taking part in the CBR libel thread... I never realized that there were so many really stupid people in fandom. I never had any doubt that "Gail Simone" couldn't post to her heart's content about her feelings about me. But according to a psychologist who has read the thread in question -- "Simone" has serious issues of her own. I can't say anything more on that subject. Simply know that she protests to her own detriment. And why the pen name?
Why is that such a thing for you? Does it bother you that Scott McCloud's name used to be McLeod? Or that "Frank Quitely" is a pen name? I legally changed my name in 1985; I suppose that makes me suspect as well?

To date, I have only been sued twice. Both matters were lost (by me) due to default. Both matters are still active and in the hands of my legal representation. One individual winning by default did so by using fradulent evidence while lying to the Court. That is a crime. I will be vindicated in that case. The person involved will really need financial assistance after this matter is re-examined by the court system of his home state. I invite anyone else thinking they have a claim against me to do what should have been (done as a) first action versus joining the CBR hate group and participating in libel against me. Any message board, comics 'news' website, or retailer participating in that message thread is subject to legal attention. Am I sabre rattling? Yes, I am.
They aren't still active. You failed to appear, you lost. You have no legal standing for an appeal. You can counter-sue. Good luck with that. Many states have severe penalties for frivolous lawsuits. I sure hope New York is one.


Do you think that they really want to see the talents involved paid? I don't think so.
Yes, they do. But they also want to see you locked out of the comics industry forever.

This was only about some clouding and confusing the matter, as other previously unknown small press and independent self publishers sold and traded their own creative talent to rub elbows with these bloviating writers like Isabella. Isabella, who, by the way actually took it upon himself to libel and defame not only me ... but other individuals that have a hand in the production of Mohawk Valley Comics Newsletter. Score two points for Isabella giving the business of comics a bad name."It was inevitable that your Newsletter would fail like everything else you touch. Tony may have accelerated teh process, but that was an act of kindness, like shooting a rabid dog.

[TCJohnson]

Now THIS story has very nice art AND takes the time to do proper establishing shots. Did Rick actually write this one?

Gail

Didn't Dixon write something for Tales of the Spooky?

[MacQuarrie]

Didn't Dixon write something for Tales of the Spooky?

Dixon's story was to appear in #1. This art is from #2.

Neither will ever see print, unless UNSCREWED is able to put together a deal with all the artists who got burned.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I found these pages for Tales of The Spooky #2 from one of Rick's many MySpace pages.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p1small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p2small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p3small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p4small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p5small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p6small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p7small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p8small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p9small.jpg

I can't seem to find who the artist is. Anyone know? Without Rick's writing to mess it up, I actually like most of the art.

I'm assuming this is supposed to be Rick? Perfect likeness.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/TOTS2p1small.jpg


This is pretty damn good art. This could be the Dixon part he wrote. Because its a lot better than the Scooby Doo 1# part. Its clear why Rick wants to do #2 as the 1st issue. Its a lot better.

[Michael P]

Many states have severe penalties for frivolous lawsuits. I sure hope New York is one.

According to the American Tort Reform Association (http://www.atra.org/states/NY), they do:

Frivolous Lawsuit Sanction: SB 9351 (1986). Provides a penalty of up to $10,000 for anyone who commences a lawsuit that the court determines to be frivolous.

[Michael P]

That dude's eye is awesome.

[Matt Doc Martin]

According to the American Tort Reform Association (http://www.atra.org/states/NY), they do:

YAHTZEE!!!!

[Reverend Smooth]

Yo, is there any word on publisher stuff re: unscrewed anthology stuffs?

[Reverend Smooth]

Double post.

[Sarah Beach]

Yo, is there any word on publisher stuff re: unscrewed anthology stuffs?

Moving forward. People are working on their stories and art. I'm more or less caught up on some other things, and will be focusing more on it now. I and my cohorts need to start focusing in on method of printing and those details. It's coming along pretty well. But I'm going to get more organized so I can track things better.

[Danny Donovan]

Now THIS story has very nice art AND takes the time to do proper establishing shots. Did Rick actually write this one?

Gail

That's Ceasar's artwork I think.

Correct me if I'm wrong C.F.

[Reverend Smooth]

Thank you. :3

[Danny Donovan]

"Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject so you know you're getting the best possible information."

That was a line from the Office it reminded me of Rick. :p

[TonyIsabella]

Not to fawn, but Tony Isabella did something nice for me once, so it kinda irks me to see Olney's little gasbag rants. The fact is, Tony has more integrity and character in the thirty-seven millionth atom on the left in his pinky finger than in Rick Olney's entire body. Or his comics, for that matter. Corresponding with Tony is probably the closest Rick's ever gotten to human decency.

Even if dirtbags like Rick is the karmic price we have to pay for having Tony in the comics world, it's worth it.

Thanks, Michael. I can't imagine a time when anything the Vile One says about me will have the least bit of effect on me. He's worthless...

...save that his despicable actions and comments have brought together so many good people to start the process of exposing him and other deadbeats like him.

Tony

[Paul Smith]

I don't see what that has to do with socks. And how come we never have worked together, Smith? What are you trying to hide?


Gail

A sock full of dimes is a nasty weapon.

As to working together, you never asked and (not suggesting a commie plot, just luck of the draw) every time I work for DC, I somehow wind up getting ... well, screwed.

Hide? What hide? I've admitted to having really big hands and all that that entails, as well as my bizarre activities with large wildcats. What else is there but my presence on the grassy knoll to which I'll never admi ... oops, gotta' go.

[Danny Donovan]

, as well as my bizarre activities with large wildcats.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Maul.jpg

Ha!

[CutterMike]

On the pure goofy side I did once have a character proposed after I listened to the radio station commercial on my way home from work one night. Coming soon from Penthouse Comics : The Adventures of TROJAN MAN !

What happens when the bad guys outlaw casual sex ? Its up to Trojan Man to ride to the rescue and save the day. But can he face the vicious right wingers who don't want sex before marriage ?

...I'm assuming that the story Enz badly...

(Sorry; I just couldn't pass up ribbing you for that one. I don't normally do that - usually I'm a natural lamb!)



... Right - I'm done...

[shanejayell]

*is vastly amused*
Hope the deadbeat gets nailed to the WALL.

[Chris Hansbrough]

*is vastly amused*
Hope the deadbeat gets nailed to the WALL.

let's not wish violence like that on someone........leave it at a kick to the balls.......twice

[Blake Petit]

Do you mean one kick for each ball or like, two square kicks in the middle?

[Gail Simone]

A sock full of dimes is a nasty weapon.

As to working together, you never asked and (not suggesting a commie plot, just luck of the draw) every time I work for DC, I somehow wind up getting ... well, screwed.

Hide? What hide? I've admitted to having really big hands and all that that entails, as well as my bizarre activities with large wildcats. What else is there but my presence on the grassy knoll to which I'll never admi ... oops, gotta' go.


Really?

Dang, I'm sorry to hear that. You and Tony seem to have had nothing but bad experiences at DC. Bleah!

Gail

[Chris Hansbrough]

Do you mean one kick for each ball or like, two square kicks in the middle?

2 right in the middle......that way you hit both nads......and a delay in time between em once the pain leaves from the first....whammo......

or you could just let him keep shooting himself in the foot. he seems to be really good at that

[Gail Simone]

Wow, he is DEFINITELY back in his manic phase. Next is meltdown, I believe, then blubbery apologies!

FUN WITH RICK!

The stuff up at his blog is so dense and thick-skulled it's hilarious. He hates you, Mac!

And Rick, since you're reading this obsessively, I will say, GOOD JOB on learning to make a proper establishing shot. You now have one writing skill partially mastered!

Gail

[Inkpot1965]

Absolutely. Shoot, if he pays people what he owes I won't even remember he ever existed.


But man, the manic phase is really coming on fast, isn't it?

Gail

C'mon, GAil. Let him back on the forum for his meltdown. Please.....?

[Gail Simone]

"Yes, I wrote the story. No, it isn't Feliciano's art. I'm not at liberty to share that information. And MacQuarrie -- YOU ARE WRONG again. TOTS #2 will be ready for sale this coming October."

Well, based on your track record of utter and complete failure and non-payment and broken promises and cancelled events and the fact that so many pros have said you cheated and lied to them, why, I bet your statement is 100% almost barely possible!

I bet it's going to sell at the Spooky con that Billy Tucci and Wheezy will be attending in your big scary renovated haunted house!

And I'm sure you'll be sending out those many, many Orca packages you lied about, too!

Why, it'll be a hoot!

Gail

[Gail Simone]

How do we find out who did this art, guys?

It'll be interesting (snort!) to see if (snicker!) they were ever PAID.

:)

Gail

[TomStillwell]

"Yes, I wrote the story. No, it isn't Feliciano's art. I'm not at liberty to share that information. And MacQuarrie -- YOU ARE WRONG again. TOTS #2 will be ready for sale this coming October."

Well, based on your track record of utter and complete failure and non-payment and broken promises and cancelled events and the fact that so many pros have said you cheated and lied to them, why, I bet your statement is 100% almost barely possible!

I bet it's going to sell at the Spooky con that Billy Tucci and Wheezy will be attending in your big scary renovated haunted house!

And I'm sure you'll be sending out those many, many Orca packages you lied about, too!

Why, it'll be a hoot!

Gail

What excuse do you think Rick will use when TOTS #2 doesn't come out in October? His dog had a heart attack and died while serving over in Iraq as a covert NSA agent embedded with a special Marine Task Force headed by Boil on Flipper Lad?

Do you think judges might be interested to find out he has money to publish comics but not to pay judgments against him? They tend to really not like that sort of thing and make things...unpleasant.

[Inkpot1965]

Thanks for the compliment, Tony, and it would be my privilege for you to use this.

This image just stayed in my head since last week when you were talking about the travails with DC, and it had to come out. An alternate blurb was Showdown in Suicide Slum. My reach may exceed my grasp, here, but...um...I'd letter it, if you'd dialogue it...:D

You should ask Jeff Austin to ink it (yes Jeff--I'm evil).

I'm a little hazy on the 'Fair Use' aspects of using BL, Superman and the Guardian, but I'd offer it for the auctions, if possible...

Hey, if you wanna send it to me to ink, [and the Green Lama piece for the auction] I'm okay with that.

[JTPencils]

That's Ceasar's artwork I think.

Correct me if I'm wrong C.F.

Danny, definitely not Cesar's art. I'd recognize his style anywhere (I should, I've known the guy for 18 years!). And as has been ranted... er... recanted...er... reported by the Vile One hisself... it's not Cesar's work. I have no idea who it is... but it's sharp stuff. Sadly, it's also probably another Olney Freebie...

As to the rants, meltdowns, etc of YOR... has anyone tracked the possibility that it's based on moon phases or anything? Maybe there's a sequence to these events that no one's looked into yet! As to all this TOTS #2 stuff...uh... when did #1 come out anyhow?

[THEDOC]

He's accusing one of the court winners of falsifying evidence and lying to the court?! Seriously, that is low. Its also ridiculous.

There is one thing he got right though.... Simone, Busiek, Waid, Isabella, Shaw, etc. truly are the Avengers.

Heck, they're so Avengery they're not only the "World's Mightiest Heroes" version, they're the ultra cool, hip, mod British version too.

I think of Rick and how Fandom Founders like Jerry Bails, Grass Green, Biljo White,GB Love and others must be rolling in their graves and that makes me sad..THEN I get e-mails from Michael T. Gilbert about the Who's Who site of Jerry's so I ask if he could help with an article I am doing on Jerry's little known talent and he sent me two great illos, just to help me out. Now THAT is what comics is all about. Made me have hope and folks like Rick will slither back under their rocks and never be heard from again.
Oh Rick, where IS that great expose' on Small Press Groups??

[NatGertler]

Wow... according to this latest rant, at some point he actually intended to pay somebody.

(And amazingly, he makes it hard to believe even that.)

[Kurt Busiek]

Gail quotes El Perro Apestando:

"And where do writers like Mark Waid, Scott Shaw, Tony Isabella, and Kurt Busiek fall into this matter? Did 'Simone' shout the 'Avengers Assemble!' from her front porch while clutching a box of donuts to excite and entice them? No, they just think that belonging to a hate group is cool, I guess.

That makes sense. We all just up and decided, "Let's join a hate group! But not any real hate group -- let's target that guy in Mohawk, that'll be fun! Who needs to hate on minorities and women when we can go after a guy who doesn't pay his bills! Good hatin'!"

That must be why some (all?) of us have supported the CBLDF, even though we've never been sued over comics content. Why we've supported The Hero Initiative, even though we can keep roofs over our heads. It's just so much fun to hate.

Seriously, it's gawp-making that he can't imagine that anyone would do anything that wasn't self-serving, perhaps because he can't comprehend it. But he can comprehend doing something out of hate for someone the hater has never met...

Descartes indeed.

I can't think of anyone else during my 48 years of being involved in the hobby of comics that, after setting in motion and attempting to produce comics independently, has gotten such attention.

Me neither.

All that other stuff he's done that he brags about? Not so much attention, despite his many claims. Being a deadbeat who preys on comics pros? Who'd a thunk he could get the spotlight for that?

It's the most fame he's ever going to get.

kdb

[Koben Kelly]

Joke #1: The dead guy thinks he's a ghost stuck in the mortal plane because he... shared a taxi with X-Tina.

Joke #2: Matt's name should be... uh... Glow-n-the-Dark Anus.

These must be much funnier in their original language. Humor seems to lose it's effect when translated. Different cultures, y'know.

Anyone have a deadbeat-to-english dictionary?

[Kurt Busiek]

There is one thing he got right though.... Simone, Busiek, Waid, Isabella, Shaw, etc. truly are the Avengers.

Heck, they're so Avengery they're not only the "World's Mightiest Heroes" version, they're the ultra cool, hip, mod British version too.

Dibs on Steed!

Gail can be Emma Peel. Or, uh, "Emma Peel."

Waid can be Mike Gambit, Tony's Purdy, and Scott Shaw gets to choose between Tara King and Cathy Gale, I guess.

Paul Smith is "Mother."

kdb

[Inkpot1965]

Dibs on Steed!

Gail can be Emma Peel. Or, uh, "Emma Peel."

Waid can be Mike Gambit, Tony's Purdy, and Scott Shaw gets to choose between Tara King and Cathy Gale, I guess.

Paul Smith is "Mother."

kdb

And Rick can be the villain in the secret hideaway under the stone bridge in the country with walls plastered in surveillance photos of Gail...I mean Emma. Due to his obsession with Emma, he'll HAVE to "do away" with Kurt...I mean Steed in order to eliminate all competitition for her affections. And thus begins this week's episode. [Cue music]

[Kurt Busiek]

And Rick can be the villain in the secret hideaway under the stone bridge in the country with walls plastered in surveillance photos of Gail...I mean Emma. Due to his obsession with Emma, he'll HAVE to "do away" with Kurt...I mean Steed in order to eliminate all competitition for her affections. And thus begins this week's episode. [Cue music]

Eee-urp?

I figure that when it comes to Avengers foes, Olney is "The See-Through Man," since he's so, well, transparent.

kdb

[Inkpot1965]

Eee-urp?

I figure that when it comes to Avengers foes, Olney is "The See-Through Man," since he's so, well, transparent.

kdb

Armed with transparent NDAs that burst like soap bubbles on impact?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

"Yes, I wrote the story. No, it isn't Feliciano's art. I'm not at liberty to share that information. And MacQuarrie -- YOU ARE WRONG again. TOTS #2 will be ready for sale this coming October."

Well, based on your track record of utter and complete failure and non-payment and broken promises and cancelled events and the fact that so many pros have said you cheated and lied to them, why, I bet your statement is 100% almost barely possible!

I bet it's going to sell at the Spooky con that Billy Tucci and Wheezy will be attending in your big scary renovated haunted house!

And I'm sure you'll be sending out those many, many Orca packages you lied about, too!

Why, it'll be a hoot!

Gail


Ok judging how issue 1# was played out and judging from comics I read....it wasn't so good. Now since Rick's not here to judge this I gotta ask the Pro on the board. Do you think Gail that whoever drew this had a loose script from Rick and made it as good as he wanted ? Because it sure looks better 1# .

Whichever pro did this may have looked at the script he saw and did his own deal to make it read better.

[Danny Donovan]

Whichever pro did this may have looked at the script he saw and did his own deal to make it read better.

You know that is entirely plausible. I mean even my brilliant works of genius have been disregaruded and reinterpreted by a pencil monkey (I'm lookin' at you Ritchey!:evilangry But nice Black Lightning!!!!! :D )

And it'd be utterly hard to disprove since anyone could work up a script after the fact using the art as a guideline and saying "see? my script matches that art perfectly!"

[JamesRitcheyIII]

You know that is entirely plausible. I mean even my brilliant works of genius have been disregaruded and reinterpreted by a pencil monkey (I'm lookin' at you Ritchey! But nice Black Lightning!!!!! )

And it'd be utterly hard to disprove since anyone could work up a script after the fact using the art as a guideline and saying "see? my script matches that art perfectly!"

BAH! How would you know??? I don't wanna hear it! You've never done a rewrite yer entire life, and I wonder if you've ever read the stuff after you've written it! It's some kinda mental block. In the words of Ed Wood--"CUT!--and PRINT!":p

Horror of horrors! I still can't believe I jumbled those two inset panels on NF. And so sorry they took so long, but I kept falling asleep--YOU try to make five pages of 'talking heads' interesting, some time (PLEASE--I mean--REALLY). They were more effective than NyQuil, and Image isn't considering pharmacological applications for their comics magazines--YET. :D

Recriminations are SO FUN!!!

All fun aside (at least you CAN write--and better than most of the people working)...;)

I dunno--it's almost like that Olney opening is Steranko's 'At The Stroke Of Midnight' from Tower of Shadows #1, described minimalistically. It's a good opening, because it's been used in every anthology horror comic since EC.

We GOTTA find out who that artist is, and warn him.

Speaking of mental blocks, I finally got a good 'Symbolic cover' idea for the Green Lama auction piece. I'll be sending it and the Black Lightnin' to Jeff, hopefully Monday.

[OzBat!]

Yup, he's definitely keeping right up to date over here. Latest blog replies to MacQ's stuff earlier, including this gem: 2: If Dixon didn't sign an NDA, then he didn't violate anything.

I love how Dixon ass kissers try to rationalize his shortcomings. Again, if Dixon had no NDA then he had no offer or contract to begin with. Under that theory -- I'd say that Dixon owes his creative partners an explanation. Because prior to my seeing his bullshit expressed over on his message boards -- I was intent on paying him. Then his poor decision making came more into the picture.Rick, you have on more than one occasion insisted that no contract, no payment. So how can you say that you were intent on paying him? IF Dixon never had an NDA, then you're insisting he didn't have a contract. IF he didn't have a contract, you were never intending to pay him. By accepting work from Dixon, you've demonstrated ably for any court in the land to see that you've obtained work under false pretences. You're a liar, Rick.

[Danny Donovan]

BAH! How would you know??? I don't wanna hear it! You've never done a rewrite yer entire life, and I wonder if you've ever read the stuff after you've written it! It's some kinda mental block. In the words of Ed Wood--"CUT!--and PRINT!":p

Well angora is just really nice and...

Oh wait, that wasn't the comparison you were going for...

Why read it? It's brilliant! So sayeth me! We can't all be mad geniuses like you ya bastard *cries*

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Yup, he's definitely keeping right up to date over here. Latest blog replies to MacQ's stuff earlier, including this gem: Rick, you have on more than one occasion insisted that no contract, no payment. So how can you say that you were intent on paying him? IF Dixon never had an NDA, then you're insisting he didn't have a contract. IF he didn't have a contract, you were never intending to pay him. By accepting work from Dixon, you've demonstrated ably for any court in the land to see that you've obtained work under false pretences. You're a liar, Rick.

Didn't he try this tit for tat with Ronee about her working for free and was nailed ?

[JamesRitcheyIII]

Didn't he try this tit for tat with Ronee about her working for free and was nailed ?

That would be a good question. Are verbal agreements not binding in New York State? They are here in Georgia--as they are in many states, and if Tightwad is dissolved, wouldn't the guy making the verbal agreement be liable?
Grown people don't donate their time to private companies, and proof of work is work to be compensated for--if there's no proof he paid you--seems like he'd owe industry standard, by the physical existence of art, promotion, scripts, etc. Just seems like it would be a BREEZE to nail Rick in court--as so much of English Common Law is based on common sense, which is something we all know Rick has a profound deficit of.

[Sarah Beach]

Didn't he try this tit for tat with Ronee about her working for free and was nailed ?

Yeah, he's been claiming that she was just "helping him out". In spite of her moving her column to his website because she was under the impression that she was going to be paid for her PR work for TightLip.

And MacQuarrie! Wow he's got a snit on about you! On the quote identifiers, he renames himself all sorts of things, all of them pretty much implying that if you two were to meet face to face, he could and would beat the shit out of you.

And that thought makes me laugh! Even though I haven't seen you, but have seen pictures of him. His whole blustering and attitude takes me back to... well, elementary school. And the boy bullies who thought they could push me around (usually not boys from any of my classes - those guys knew better). Not for nothing do I have a brother who is 7 years older than me: D and I would rough-house occasionally, and I learned a lot about holding my own. I wouldn't need military training to take him on, and I'm just a "widdle girl". Heh.

Eh... he's deluded, demented, and disconnected from reality. Oh, I'll keep an eye on his eruptions, but he's not worth it to me to engage directly again. I may do some research on defamation of character, just in case I want to take action against him. But in spite of what he thinks of me, I have been told by a few people (and some of them recent acquaintences) that I'm actually a rather exemplary character (including moral and all that - so I think his calling me a "skank" in any fashion isn't going to hold water in the face of many, many witnesses on my behalf).

Anyway... I'm done with the paramecium, as regards me. Back to just seeing that his poison does not kill off new talent, getting an anthology put together, and getting onward with my own projects. (Sorry for rambling there, guys.)

[Gail Simone]

Again, Mac is an actual man, no one to mess with, and the peanut looked like he was about to pass out after climbing a set of stairs.

He couldn't whip a potato.

Gail

[DaveRothe]

Again, Mac is an actual man, no one to mess with, and the peanut looked like he was about to pass out after climbing a set of stairs.

He couldn't whip a potato.

Gail

Hey Mac ya gotta PM yer secret to me about pissing RO off some more.:D

[Art Grafunkel]

"Simone" has serious issues of her own. I can't say anything more on that subject. Simply know that she protests to her own detriment. And why the pen name?

Yeah, why teh pen name, "Gail"?

What are you tryign to hide from hobby comic enthusiastic for comics hobby, "Gail"?

Talented old-school comic creators like Stan "The Man" Lee, or Jack "King" Kirby didn't not need no sissee pen names like you token donut... hmmmm, donut... "Gail"!

Hah! I thnik this proves beyond all other conprimentation OR even recantermentigating my point, but lol who am I, right? rofl :D ;)




(FYI: Jack Kirby=Jacob Kurtzberg, Stan Lee=Stanley Martin Lieber)

[OzBat!]

Hey Mac ya gotta PM yer secret to me about pissing RO off some more.:DGreat steaming piles of libellous truth should just about do it, I reckon!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Wow, he is DEFINITELY back in his manic phase. Next is meltdown, I believe, then blubbery apologies!

FUN WITH RICK!

The stuff up at his blog is so dense and thick-skulled it's hilarious. He hates you, Mac!

And Rick, since you're reading this obsessively, I will say, GOOD JOB on learning to make a proper establishing shot. You now have one writing skill partially mastered!

Gail

Hey Mac ya gotta PM yer secret to me about pissing RO off some more.:D


*sniff*


I am so jealous.

[TomStillwell]

Yeah, he's been claiming that she was just "helping him out". In spite of her moving her column to his website because she was under the impression that she was going to be paid for her PR work for TightLip.

And MacQuarrie! Wow he's got a snit on about you! On the quote identifiers, he renames himself all sorts of things, all of them pretty much implying that if you two were to meet face to face, he could and would beat the shit out of you.

And that thought makes me laugh! Even though I haven't seen you, but have seen pictures of him. His whole blustering and attitude takes me back to... well, elementary school. And the boy bullies who thought they could push me around (usually not boys from any of my classes - those guys knew better). Not for nothing do I have a brother who is 7 years older than me: D and I would rough-house occasionally, and I learned a lot about holding my own. I wouldn't need military training to take him on, and I'm just a "widdle girl". Heh.

Eh... he's deluded, demented, and disconnected from reality. Oh, I'll keep an eye on his eruptions, but he's not worth it to me to engage directly again. I may do some research on defamation of character, just in case I want to take action against him. But in spite of what he thinks of me, I have been told by a few people (and some of them recent acquaintences) that I'm actually a rather exemplary character (including moral and all that - so I think his calling me a "skank" in any fashion isn't going to hold water in the face of many, many witnesses on my behalf).

Anyway... I'm done with the paramecium, as regards me. Back to just seeing that his poison does not kill off new talent, getting an anthology put together, and getting onward with my own projects. (Sorry for rambling there, guys.)

I'll put my money on Mac's bow & arrow against Olney's hunting rifle any day.

This is all just typical Rick hot air.

Rick, maybe if you actually accomplished some of the things you've claimed to have done or are going to do people would take you seriously. Instead we just roll our eyes and laugh. You have no humor of your own but you are humorous all the same.

Sadly, as accidentially entertaining as you are, you're also someone hurting good people.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

*sniff*


I am so jealous.

I don't think anyone has pissed Rick off more than you. I just think he knows you'd destroy him.

JP

[EdContradictory]

Wow, he is DEFINITELY back in his manic phase. Next is meltdown, I believe, then blubbery apologies!


He's been skipping the "apologies" phase lately.

[Comcman]

Yup, he's definitely keeping right up to date over here. Latest blog replies to MacQ's stuff earlier, including this gem:

Originally Posted by Olney
2: If Dixon didn't sign an NDA, then he didn't violate anything.

I love how Dixon ass kissers try to rationalize his shortcomings. Again, if Dixon had no NDA then he had no offer or contract to begin with. Under that theory -- I'd say that Dixon owes his creative partners an explanation. Because prior to my seeing his bullshit expressed over on his message boards -- I was intent on paying him. Then his poor decision making came more into the picture.

Rick, you have on more than one occasion insisted that no contract, no payment. So how can you say that you were intent on paying him? IF Dixon never had an NDA, then you're insisting he didn't have a contract. IF he didn't have a contract, you were never intending to pay him. By accepting work from Dixon, you've demonstrated ably for any court in the land to see that you've obtained work under false pretences. You're a liar, Rick.

Here is where actual law comes into play:

(From law.com)"promissory estoppel
n. a false statement treated as a promise by a court when the listener had relied on what was told to him/her to his/her disadvantage. In order to see that justice is done a judge will preclude the maker of the statement from denying it. Thus, the legal inability of the person who made the false statement to deny it makes it an enforceable promise called "promissory estoppel," or an "equitable estoppel." Example: Bernie Blowhard tells Arthur Artist that Blowhard has a contract to make a movie and wants Artist to paint the background scenery in return for a percentage of the profits. Artist paints, and Blowhard then admits he needed the scenery to try to get a movie deal which fell through and there are no profits to share. Artist sues and the judge finds that Blowhard cannot deny a contract with Artist and gives Artist judgment for the value of his work."

If he asked someone to work for him and that person accepted, Olney is liable to pay for that work even if there was no finalized contract. As long as the person began work to his detriment. Olney can claim no contract because of no NDA until he is blue in the face (or red in the face), but the court will see a signed contract and work performed persuant to that contract. Getting the NDA signed is Olney's problem, not Mr. Dixon's. Unless there is language in the contract explicitly stating that this contract is null and void unless accompanied by a signed NDA, he is SOL.

And, just to set the record straight Mr. Olney, I am not here as a hater or as an ass-kisser. I am here through links on Heidi MacDonald's The Beat column and had heard about you in Lying in the Gutters. I only posted here to point out the legal deficiencies in all of your threats. Your behavior here has absolutely amazed me. For all of your flag-waving and patriotic chest thumping, you come across as a bigotted, racist ass. I despise people who use the legal system as threat and a shield. It is there to settle disputes, not to coerce people into being quiet about your transgressions.

You and your attorney, Mr. Wick E. Pedia, need to look a little deeper into contract law. I remember a while back, you said your leaggle team was pouring over your NDA and contract to determine what it meant because it was too complex for a non-lawyer to understand. Then they are pretty lousy leagle documents. A contract should be clear on its face. "What I meant" will not apply and any ambiguities will be held against the drafter, ie you.

So good luck with that in court.

[Kozemp]

"Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject so you know you're getting the best possible information."

That was a line from the Office it reminded me of Rick. :p

Another line from last night's Office that has bearing on our current discussion:

"This is going to be an absolutely groundbreaking case when it inevitably goes to trial."

JLK
I'm just getting ready for the deposition

[DungeonmasterJim]

I may not be thinking clearly after a 12 hour work day but...

If Olney believes that his NDA's prevent talking about TLE at all and all that jazz, hasn't he broken every single NDA of his by continously posting? I remember seeing stuff by Olney long before some of the guys like JTPencils and others started posting in this thread. And then he says they broke the NDA's?

And is he a 'character' in every one of his comics? Oy! Talk about vanity self-publishing!:eek:

DM Jim

[Gail Simone]

Comcman for the massive win.

I think there should be a Comcman comic, with him crushing idiots and liars with ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE.

Gail

[NatGertler]

The Mighty MiniCon site says "No images or content may be removed, republished, or redistributed without permission."

Now how exactly does he suspect one is going to remove an image from his site?

[DocAbsurd]

He has yet to answer why he's refusing to pay those of us who were with him when he tried to make the MMC a viable site back in 2003/2004. We never had contracts, we never had NDAs; there was nothing we could have 'broken'. We wrote columns, we wrote reviews, we did what we were asked and more. Our work was read by the dozens.

We kept our mouths shut for years.

So why haven't we been paid yet, Moneybags?

All your claims of disclosure, broken deadlines, non-existing contracts fall dead when the simple fact comes up that you regularly operated without contracts up until (approximately) June of last year. I'm sure there's probably a few creators who started work on the Schpooky, Freedumb 3, etc., before they got any sort of leaggle papers in the mail.

Here's another term for you to check on Wikipedia: good faith.

Attorneys have enough of a bad reputation; your claims of 'leaggle assistance' ain't helping matters.

[NatGertler]

This may seem a bit off topic, but...

If anyone here has friends at the collectible card game manufacturer Decipher, please drop me a private message.

[Tegan]

so I think his calling me a "skank" in any fashion isn't going to hold water in the face of many, many witnesses on my behalf).

Being called "skank" by RO is a high compliment. Since he's from his own version of bizarro world, being insulted by him is a *good* thing.

[Danny Donovan]

Well, he joined our Unscrewed! Yahoogroup There goes the neighborhood.

I blocked his e-mail so I won't have a huge bunch of useless messages.

I have ACTUAL work to do.

I can't be playing around with someone who actually has no other life.

[JTPencils]

Well, he joined our Unscrewed! Yahoogroup There goes the neighborhood.

I blocked his e-mail so I won't have a huge bunch of useless messages.

I have ACTUAL work to do.

I can't be playing around with someone who actually has no other life.

I saw that too Danny. I'm curious if anyone's going to bother posting his little tirades here to read? If anyone cares, I'll hold onto the messages until that's been decided (or posted). I think the worse thing he said yet was that he was "supporting Unscrewed!. Officially." He has no clue how that can be taken, I think. "Support it YOR.. .hell you inspired it!" Dumbass.

Well, if anyone wants the Vile One's words stuck up for all to pee on... just let me know... I'll post it. (But please, quickly... the other mail in my inbox feels dirty just being in close proximity!).

[Shade]

I can't be playing around with someone who actually has no other life.

You mean OTHER than us, right?

[TomStillwell]

He loves to throw around words like Officially to make himself seem important.

How exactly would he be supporting Unscrewed! officially? Does he serve it in some official capacity? Hell no. Donated any money to it? Hell no. Representated Unscrewed!'s ideals in any way? Hell no.

He's just the poster boy for immoral and unethical behavior in the comics industry. I guess that could be something official.

[Blake Petit]

Yeah, most of the other stuff he posted to the newsgroup was just sad, or funny. That crap about him "supporting" Unscrewed turned my stomach, though.

[DocAbsurd]

Wait a tic . . .

He blocks us from joining his newsletter group, but joins into a group that's designed specifically to hold not just people like him responsible for reprehensible inactions but he himself!?!

There's my daily dose of irony.

What exactly has he been posting?

I do think it needs to be mentioned -- directly to him -- that 'officially' supporting anything requires more than simply stamping 'official' across his emails. Wouldn't surprise me to see that included at the bottom of his missives.

He's into full martyr swing now. He's clawing his way into the UNSCREWED! effort to 'prove' to everyone his heart's in the right place. After all, if he supports US! 'officially', he's realizing what he did was wrong and now he's truly sorry.

That and $3 will get me small cuppa at Starbucks.




Doc 'Bitter Coffee and Bitter Irony' Absurd

[KevinTBrown]

He loves to throw around words like Officially to make himself seem important.

How exactly would he be supporting Unscrewed! officially? Does he serve it in some official capacity? Hell no. Donated any money to it? Hell no. Representated Unscrewed!'s ideals in any way? Hell no.

He's just the poster boy for immoral and unethical behavior in the comics industry. I guess that could be something official.

Well, I think we all know that's he's OFFICIALLY nuggin' futs.

[Sarah Beach]

No, he hasn't said anything of value in the yahoo group. He snipes at Ian's suggestion of also tracking folks who place orders for books and then don't pay for them. He makes backbiting comments to several other posters.

And then there's the "supporting Unscrewed!" You're quite right, DocA, that he says that in order to seem "reasonable". But (I haven't checked the MMC site) I don't suppose he's pulled the CBR So-Screwed! glass offer, has he? Some support.

I hope more legal cases continue to proceed against him. Particularly the submission of the Florida decisions to NY, for collection. The fact that he continues to insist his MMC "7" will indeed be held could be put forward as evidence that he has liquid assests of some sort. Oh, and he still hasn't announced the site for that yet, has he? I wonder if those people have secured their deposit at least, since I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up shorting them on the full rental price. Because I wouldn't put any trust on his doing anything right and properly at all.

[Blake Petit]

No, he hasn't said anything of value...

Really, Sarah, you could have stopped right there and been entirely accurate.

[Gail Simone]

Wait a tic . . .

He blocks us from joining his newsletter group, but joins into a group that's designed specifically to hold not just people like him responsible for reprehensible inactions but he himself!?!

There's my daily dose of irony.

What exactly has he been posting?

I do think it needs to be mentioned -- directly to him -- that 'officially' supporting anything requires more than simply stamping 'official' across his emails. Wouldn't surprise me to see that included at the bottom of his missives.

He's into full martyr swing now. He's clawing his way into the UNSCREWED! effort to 'prove' to everyone his heart's in the right place. After all, if he supports US! 'officially', he's realizing what he did was wrong and now he's truly sorry.

That and $3 will get me small cuppa at Starbucks.




Doc 'Bitter Coffee and Bitter Irony' Absurd



Yup. This is his 'bargaining/desperation' phaze, that always preceeds the blubbery apologies.

Guy is a broken record stuck on 'duh.'

Gail

[Typo Lad]

Where has he said he's part of "Unscrewed" please? I've been away from the thread, but that grabbed my eye.

[Blake Petit]

Where has he said he's part of "Unscrewed" please? I've been away from the thread, but that grabbed my eye.

It was in his latest string of meltdown e-mails to the Unscrewed Yahoo! group. And to be fair, he didn't say he was part of it, just that he supported it.

Although I think I'm safe in saying that Unscrewed doesn't ask for his support and rejects it if it were offered.

[Typo Lad]

I know Sarah will back me up on this, but as an editor I have to say that the best way he could "support" us is by making us obsolete.

Support Unscrewed by paying the talent.

[EdContradictory]

Any one else creeped out that Rick likely did a Google search on "Beach Killed" to find this article that he for some reason posted on his blog? (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=249820439&MyToken=77968f58-526b-4354-93ac-42372716ff40)

[TomStillwell]

I know Sarah will back me up on this, but as an editor I have to say that the best way he could "support" us is by making us obsolete.

Support Unscrewed by paying the talent.

No, that would never make us obsolete. That would make us happy.

Olney is just the first of folks that will start to realize that the days of silence and fear are over.

The little guys ain't so little when they stand together.

Sadly, I don't delude myself to think we'll ever be obsolete. I'm in this for the long hall. Whatever it takes, I'll do.

[Typo Lad]

Any one else creeped out that Rick likely did a Google search on "Beach Killed" to find this article that he for some reason posted on his blog? (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=249820439&MyToken=77968f58-526b-4354-93ac-42372716ff40)
That's the point, I think.

[EdContradictory]

That's the point, I think.
What a sick, sick individual.

Rick, you've moved well out of "deadbeat dirtbag" territory.

First calling her a "skank" and now this? You've lost any case long before it ever went to court.

[TomStillwell]

What sick, sick individual.

Rick, you've moved well out of "deadbeat dirtbag" territory.

First calling her a "skank" and now this? You've lost any case long before it ever went to court.

Wouldn't that be an issue of harrassment for myspace to investigate as well as for the authorities?

Can someone screen cap that for evidence please?

[JTPencils]

Any one else creeped out that Rick likely did a Google search on "Beach Killed" to find this article that he for some reason posted on his blog? (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=249820439&MyToken=77968f58-526b-4354-93ac-42372716ff40)

It doesn't creep me out at all. I think he's just trying to focus on the illegal alien issue instead of the drunk driving charge or something. It's always difficult to try to follow his brain process.

What I personally found ironic, is his "Rick Olney is anything but TightLipped". More like tightwad, tightass, and overall mentally, not wrapped tightly enough!

[EdContradictory]

It doesn't creep me out at all. I think he's just trying to focus on the illegal alien issue instead of the drunk driving charge or something. It's always difficult to try to follow his brain process.
The illegal immigration thing is a dodge. He doesn't care about that or the deaths.

It's sick that he's using the death of these two poor girls to make some weirdo MySpace attack on someone else.

[Larkin]

Just reading on Newarama about Gail's new dream project at DC

But the truth of this matter is, I was simply offered a project I couldn't turn down. A dream book with a dream art team, and a real chance to reshape comics’ history. DC's always been great to me, but this is just...insane. It's unbelievably exciting......On my recent visit to New York, Dan [Didio] asked me into his office and made the proposal, and my eyes just bugged out of my skull. I couldn't turn it down. It's something that almost feels like destiny, as goofy as that sounds, like something I've been working towards my entire career as a writer.

Boy, pRick was right, this "witchhunt" against him has really caused your career to go down the toilet, losing work and fans by the droves. He sure showed you. I just find it hilarious how completely wrong and clueless he is. :) What a jackass.

Congratulations Gail, I look forward to seeing the new book.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Any one else creeped out that Rick likely did a Google search on "Beach Killed" to find this article that he for some reason posted on his blog? (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=249820439&MyToken=77968f58-526b-4354-93ac-42372716ff40)

Creepy? That is just vintage Olney!


Olney! I am calling you out. Take that as you will.

[EdContradictory]

The illegal immigration thing is a dodge. He doesn't care about that or the deaths.

It's sick that he's using the death of these two poor girls to make some weirdo MySpace attack on someone else.

Rick, the only idiot here is you. Hanging on every word posted in this thread.

It's as clear that you used the initial article as a way to attack Sarah as it is that you desperately posted a follow-up right after I posted so you could continue to pretend that it was anything other than that.

You're a sick, sick man.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Rick, the only idiot here is you. Hanging on every word posted in this thread.

It's as clear that you used the initial article as a way to attack Sarah as it is that you desperately posted a follow-up right after I posted so you could continue to pretend that it was anything other than that.

You're a sick, sick man.

Quoted for truth.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I love his new dodge for not answering peoples questions on MySpace:

Oh, and so you know... you'll need at least 50 friends on your myspace page to be taken seriously further from this point forward.


So...why won't you answer MY questions? Why do you fear MY posts, you cowardly sack of shit?


YOU CAN'T APPEAL A CASE YOU LOST BY DEFAULT!!! And, even if you HAD shown up, you would have lost. But, if you had come to Florida, you would have had to face me. And we KNOW you will never willingly do that. You talk a big game, but you are all mouth. That's what cowards do.

And what is your "handicap", besides an unwillingness to open your wallet?

[EdContradictory]

It's astounding that he thinks that MySpace "friends" count for anything.

Or did he also believe the pretty girl who signed his high school yearbook with just a "K.I.T." actually wanted him to keep in touch?

[Matt Doc Martin]

It's astounding that he thinks that MySpace "friends" count for anything.

Or did he also believe the pretty girl who signed his high school yearbook with just a "K.I.T." actually wanted him to keep in touch?

He desperately craves attention so much he does think it matters.

Of course, he thinks all the porn bots he signed up want to be his "friends" too.

And that if he posts a reply to one of his other blogs, he can be two people at once.

This is what life looks like when you are a dipshit, apparently.


Dipshit: Have your wife smack you in the head with a hammer. I think something came loose in your head. When you wake up, evaluate your comments again.

[JTPencils]

He desperately craves attention so much he does think it matters.

Of course, he thinks all the porn bots he signed up want to be his "friends" too.

And that if he posts a reply to one of his other blogs, he can be two people at once.

This is what life looks like when you are a dipshit, apparently.


Dipshit: Have your wife smack you in the head with a hammer. I think something came loose in your head. When you wake up, evaluate your comments again.

Damn Matt, I knew we missed ya around here for a reason! Nice to have ya back in full form!!

[TomStillwell]

On a more positive note, the last auction for a while is near its completion.

We still have super keen items without bids, as mind boggling as that seems.

Check this stuff out.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/auction/5d96_1.jpg
This is one of Greg Rucka's great Queen & Country novels.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/auction/isabella4.jpg
Original Hawkman art? How cool is that?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/auction/cdixon4.jpg

This is a spiffy series Chuck Dixon wrote that mixes Nazis and with pulp fiction. He even signed it in German!

Run, don't walk! Grab these treasures up!

[Blake Petit]

Oh, and so you know... you'll need at least 50 friends on your myspace page to be taken seriously further from this point forward.

Oh Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. Even my ninth graders aren't stupid enough to think that's a legitimate dodge.

[TomStillwell]

Oh Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. Even my ninth graders aren't stupid enough to think that's a legitimate dodge.

I have nearly five hundred, Rick. Almost all of them either work in comics or are fans of comics. They all are hip to you now and they are passing the word.

I'm just one of many, many people telling your story to comic industry people. You can't damage control or spin this anymore.

Really, just drop the bullshit and pay what you owe. You're done in comics before you even got started. It's time you realize that, do the right thing, and crawl back to obscurity.

[Sarah Beach]

Any one else creeped out that Rick likely did a Google search on "Beach Killed" to find this article that he for some reason posted on his blog? (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=249820439&MyToken=77968f58-526b-4354-93ac-42372716ff40)

It did cross my mind, but actually apparently Geraldo & O'Reilly went at each other over the incident and the issues involved. So it's "news" enough worth quoting, if one is irate enough.

[Danny Donovan]

It's astounding that he thinks that MySpace "friends" count for anything.

Or did he also believe the pretty girl who signed his high school yearbook with just a "K.I.T." actually wanted him to keep in touch?

He went to school with the talking car on Knight Rider?

oooooo...

You mean OTHER than us, right?

Well of course! ;)

I hope he's not serious about the myspace friends thing.

[Sarah Beach]

No! Did he really say that you have to have at least 50 friends to be taken seriously? LOL

I'll bet he only said that because I've only got 9 at the moment. Of course, I only signed up 2 days ago, and haven't campaigned seriously to get my friends all connected yet. So... you know, I'm not a serious person. ;)

But then... I also was out and about today (office was closed). You know, having a real life sort of stuff.

Cripes, if he just put this much effort into paying some of the people he owes, I wouldn't have to bother thinking about him at all. :p

[Danny Donovan]

No! Did he really say that you have to have at least 50 friends to be taken seriously? LOL

I've stopped assuming people are making fun of him at this point because 10 times out of 10 I'll assume someone is making a joke when in fact they are actually qouting something that was actually said. LOL.

I'll bet he only said that because I've only got 9 at the moment. Of course, I only signed up 2 days ago, and haven't campaigned seriously to get my friends all connected yet. So... you know, I'm not a serious person. ;)

But then... I also was out and about today (office was closed). You know, having a real life sort of stuff.

Cripes, if he just put this much effort into paying some of the people he owes, I wouldn't have to bother thinking about him at all. :p

Which makes me wonder, did you try to call me earlier? I have a thing on my caller ID that read "cel phone LA" and I didn't know if it was you or not. ;)

I just walked in the door so if you were trying to reach me I'm in, if it wasn't... um.. nevermind! lol.

[Gail Simone]

He bouncing off the walls for sure. What a loon.

Gail

[rummblestrips]

ow ow ow ow
Reading Rick's posts over at the Yahoo group gave my brain a headache. He's so.. out there and clueless and icky.. just icky.
ANd his whole blog where he claims a psychologist came on here and decided that Gail has issues...
This psychologist must work in the same building as Rick's 2 lawyer teams.

[KevinTBrown]

ow ow ow ow
Reading Rick's posts over at the Yahoo group gave my brain a headache. He's so.. out there and clueless and icky.. just icky.
ANd his whole blog where he claims a psychologist came on here and decided that Gail has issues...
This psychologist must work in the same building as Rick's 2 lawyer teams.

I think Olney's spelling skills are once again in question.

He obviously didn't mean "psychologist", rather he meant to type "psychotic".

[Gail Simone]

Oh, my god, now he's trotted out poor Dennis to be his apologist.

Yikes.

Does Olney EVER stand on his own two feet like a man?

Gail

[TCJohnson]

Where was this?

Someday we need to teach Gail how to post links. :P

[Gail Simone]

Dennis knows full well about the people Rick has cheated and stolen from, making this all the more sad.

myspace.com/orcafresh


Creepy.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

Where was this?

Someday we need to teach Gail how to post links. :P
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=250149909&MyToken=5c826269-7f2d-4ecd-b232-ecf4e88473b6

Dennis told him he was a vet. BUT...He contradicts Rick's own accounts as to how long he served when Rick was saying he was in through 1977.

You can read the below here at the Mohawk Valley Comics Newsletter .


Hi everyone,

I was recently asked by Rick to relate what I knew of his military
service in a message here, so, here I am...

First, I have known Rick on a regular basis since we crossed paths at a
a local comic book convention in 1993. So, yeah, it's been awhile.

While our friendship has had its fair share of ups and downs over the
years (what pairing hasn't?), Rick has always been straightforward and
true with me and I've never felt any need to doubt otherwise.

I've had the pleasure of being in his home on numerous occasions and
I've gotten to know his family fairly well over the years.

Regarding Rick's military service? Rick received an Honorable Discharge
from the United States Marine Corps in 1973 or 1974. I don't recall the
precise year at the moment, but I've seen this Discharge document
prominently and proudly displayed in his home for years.


I'm very familiar with the dress uniform of a United States Marine and
I've seen photos of Rick as a young man wearing such a uniform.

I know that Rick was an M.P. and served in the end of the Vietnam War.
I don't recall his other duties at the moment but Rick has related many
of his military experiences to me while passing the time on various
road trips or while I visited at his home.

I know that Rick is extremely proud of his military service and he has
every right to be.

As to me?

I would like to say that I am making this statement of my own free will.

For the past 7 years, I have offered my services as a Notary Public to
my workplace, where I am employed as a reference librarian and have
been for 13 years. I deal with information on a daily basis. I respect
the truth and accuracy and I'll give the truth and accuracy to whomever
asks it of me. While I'm far from perfect, I like to think I'm capable
of knowing when I'm being lied to.

My Dad served in the Air Force and one of my younger brothers is
currently in the Air Force. I totally respect the military and those
who choose to serve in it.

Your individual opinions of Rick are your own and I have mine. I
realize that I'm not as "notorious" and well known as Rick but Rick is
Rick and I am my own person.

Everyone is free to have their opinions of Rick, I'm not trying to
change anyone's mind. I'd just like to say that Rick has every right to
be proud of his Marine Corps service and that every bit of it is true.


Dennis Kininger


I would hope that this puts the subject matter to rest. Thank you.

Rick Olney

Wow. Hanging up on the wall? JUST LIKE MINE! Which means, he could have shown it in all of 30 seconds like I did.

Sorry "Dennis"...I still don't buy it. And I do not feel for a second he conveys himself like ex-military at all.

If he was in, he was medically discharged at best.

Show the discharge certificate, Rick.

AND PAY WHAT YOU OWE!

[bert]

Dennis knows full well about the people Rick has cheated and stolen from, making this all the more sad.

myspace.com/orcafresh


Creepy.

Gail

really sad.

and worse than having no respect for Dennis, the fact that Tubolardofresh seems to think that *this* put the matter to rest re: his military "service"?

Peanut, sucking Marine cock thru a hole in the bathroom wall all day at the PX is "servicing the Military" . . . not "Military Service"

[Matt Doc Martin]

Dennis knows full well about the people Rick has cheated and stolen from, making this all the more sad.

myspace.com/orcafresh


Creepy.

Gail


I am VERY disappointed, again, that people like Dennis and Jim Main have yet to take Rick to task for this. Instead, they keep enabling him.

[MacQuarrie]

We DID inspire Free Comic Book Day. We DID create the Comics in the Classroom program. Sites promoting free comics got the idea from us. I still communicate with grateful readers through the mail from time to time.
No, Dennis, you are either wrong or lying here.

1. You did not inspire Free Comic Book Day. The founders of that event have described their inspiration for the event, and have never mentioned ORCA. At best, you came up with a similar idea at around the same time. It happens all the time, people in different locations coming up with the same idea independently of each other, like the X-Men and the Doom Patrol.

2. No, you did not create the Comics in the Classroom program. You created a comics in the classroom program, of which there are many, some of which were begun before you were born. Again, similar ideas arrived at independently.

3. Sites promoting free comics did not get the idea from you. They got the idea from the same place you got it. Giving away free stuff is a good way to attract attention and engage interest. Are you claiming to have invented the idea of the free gift now?

Please don't be Olneyesque in your claims.

[Danny Donovan]

Dennis knows full well about the people Rick has cheated and stolen from, making this all the more sad.

myspace.com/orcafresh


Creepy.

Gail

Ah I see he's also back to picking on me.

As for the "quite cunning" thing, it comes from the TV series Firefly. Not a declaration of my own brilliance. The hat I'm wearing in my avatar was worn by the character Jayne to which he says "how's it sit? pretty cunning right?" to which in the fandom it spurned from the hat was forever known as the "cunning hat."

So he's saved my e-mails and is planning on blogging them. I expected as much.

Not that everyone doesn't already know all my damn personal business.

And yes, Dennis wrote a post about Rick's military service and in it the phrase "I would like to say that I am making this statement of my own free will."

This really has gone to the point where it's just sad now.
if he does post anything that could be anyway taken as liable he can bet I will file charges. I have done so in the past, and won.

He takes another shot at my "career" has shit worked out exactly like I wanted? No. But I am 26, been published numerous times, have a paycheck from Marvel Comics X-MEN office to my credit. And have social relationships with editors big press and small.

[Sarah Beach]

It's pitiful that he has to ask Dennis (whom he's known as a friend only since 1993) to "verify" that he served in the military. He showed Dennis pictures of himself in uniform, his old uniform, and his framed discharge papers.

Wow. That's just such great "verification".

Now, I'll say it again. I don't really doubt that he served in some capacity. But I do doubt that he was anything notable. On his own reporting of himself, he was busted down in rank twice and failed to make sergeant twice. So, whatever his record, I doubt it was "distinguished". Hence his continual harping on the fact that he was honorably discharged. Every other military man I know, especially those who did serve with distinction, feel no need to claim that they were honorably discharged - they seem to take that for granted and not worthy of note. The only thing they DO take worthy of note is when someone is dishonorably discharged. So, based off that sampling of attitude, I'd guess that our specimen got out "honorably" by the skin of his teeth, and that he could just as easily have been "dishonorably discharged." Otherwise, why make a big deal of it?

Anyway... I reserve judgement until actually documentary proof surfaces. And a friend saying "I saw some framed discharge papers" isn't really proof of service.

[Gail Simone]

I have to say something very, very notable about the difference between real convention organizers, and Rick "I don't have a clue" Olney.

Jim and George Demonakos run Emerald City. It started fairly small, but every year it grows and grows, because not only do new people want to go, the people who went last year want to go AGAIN. It's that fun, that well-organized, that enjoyable. There are bigger cons all over the place, but this one brings such a huge roster of big name talent SOLELY because of what Jim and George have done, and the amazing people they bring in to help. It's just a fun experience from start to finish, and you can go the entire con without hearing a negative word about the treatment and organization of guests, and all aspects really.

And here's the deal, at the very nice dinner they provide at the end of the show (a great chance for the guests to talk, and to thank the volunteers and staff who work so hard), Jim and George always come up and say hello, exhausted but courteous. And EVERY TIME, the guests burst into spontaneous applause, in appreciate for the great work these folks did. Every time. I've never heard a bad word about either of them, and I know of few events that are more looked forward to than Emerald City Comicon each year.

There was a slight mix-up in booking, and they fixed it immediately. They are to reimburse me for my expenses, and unlike with Rick "But I swear I sent the check!" Olney, I don't have a moment's hesitation. I know they'll pay every dime promptly because unlike Rick "I never met a pro I didn't cheat" Olney, their integrity is beyond reproach. They are professionals.

Contrast that with the Shitty Mini Con, a disaster from beginning to end, no organizition, broken promises in every direction, bad pr, bad faith, bad odors, no communication, and horrible attendance, and I have to say all I heard was people bitching and making fun of the ridiculous experience the whole time. When it was over, people slunk away so they wouldn't have to talk to Rick.

That's the difference. Emerald City Comicon, run by adults, by people with integrity and smarts, vs...not so much for the Mighty Shitty Con run by Rick "Two Years and I still haven't paid" Olney.


My suggestion?

Go to Emerald City and leave Rick to his pretend dreams of being important. Spontaneous applause vs. embarrassed snickering. Emerald is better.

Gail

[willtupper]

I will not make a joke about getting, "an honorable discharge."
I will not make a joke about getting, "an honorable discharge."
I will not make a joke about getting, "an honorable discharge."
I will not make a joke about... :eek:

Peanut, sucking Marine cock thru a hole in the bathroom wall all day at the PX is "servicing the Military" . . . not "Military Service"

[Danny Donovan]

Wow. Chuck Dixon and I were part of a interview/article thing for the SBC.

http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/news/story.php?a=4514

So far I have had my name lumped in with Tony Isabella and Chuck Dixon. That's pretty damn sweet. :p

How do I get to be considered a crumb catcher like Busiek or Waid? I might actually get that Batman:Elseworlds thing I've been wanting to do forever... :p

Okay.. then what about Robin vs. Cheeks The Toy Wonder one-shot??

[Matt Doc Martin]

But in terms of the Olney incident, in the grand scheme of things and as far as frauds go in the industry, Olney himself is little more than gum on the sidewalk. Chuck Dixon himself had this final bit to say; "Everyone knows Olney is down for the full count so it’s okay to boot him in the nuts with impunity. He’s a non-entity and there‘s no fear that he‘ll ever be more than an asterisk in comics history."

Chuck: You had me at "boot him in the nuts".

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

At least Olney's journal was more coherant this time.

JP

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Chuck: You had me at "boot him in the nuts".

I don't think Olney has any.

JP

[Tobey Cook]

Gail,

I look forward to Emerald City every year simply because it's one of the first cons I've went to that I really enjoyed. I'd been to the smaller shows here in Seattle but I was always jealous that San Diego and all the other cities had these huge media events and Seattle got left out. We've got a ton of talented creators in this area and really needed the representation.

I sadly missed out on the first 2, but I haven't missed one since, and don't plan to. People organizing conventions could learn a lot about how Jim and George do business. They're nothing less in their complete professionalism, and it shows by the increasing number of creators who come back every year.

[Magneto_X]

Here is where actually law comes into play:

(From law.com)"promissory estoppel
n. a false statement treated as a promise by a court when the listener had relied on what was told to him/her to his/her disadvantage. In order to see that justice is done a judge will preclude the maker of the statement from denying it. Thus, the legal inability of the person who made the false statement to deny it makes it an enforceable promise called "promissory estoppel," or an "equitable estoppel." Example: Bernie Blowhard tells Arthur Artist that Blowhard has a contract to make a movie and wants Artist to paint the background scenery in return for a percentage of the profits. Artist paints, and Blowhard then admits he needed the scenery to try to get a movie deal which fell through and there are no profits to share. Artist sues and the judge finds that Blowhard cannot deny a contract with Artist and gives Artist judgment for the value of his work."

If he asked someone to work for him and that person accepted, Olney is liable to pay for that work even if there was no finalized contract. As long as the person began work to his detriment. Olney can claim no contract because of no NDA until he is blue in the face (or red in the face), but the court will see a signed contract and work performed persuant to that contract. Getting the NDA signed is Olney's problem, not Mr. Dixon's. Unless there is language in the contract explicitly stating that this contract is null and void unless accompanied by a signed NDA, he is SOL.

And, just to set the record straight Mr. Olney, I am not here as a hater or as an ass-kisser. I am here through links on Heidi MacDonald's The Beat column and had heard about you in Lying in the Gutters. I only posted here to point out the legal deficiencies in all of your threats. Your behavior here has absolutely amazed me. For all of your flag-waving and patriotic chest thumping, you come across as a bigotted, racist ass. I despise people who use the legal system as threat and a shield. It is there to settle disputes, not to coerce people into being quiet about your transgressions.

You and your attorney, Mr. Wick E. Pedia, need to look a little deeper into contract law. I remember a while back, you said your leaggle team was pouring over your NDA and contract to determine what it meant because it was too complex for a non-lawyer to understand. Then they are pretty lousy leagle documents. A contract should be clear on its face. "What I meant" will not apply and any ambiguities will be held against the drafter, ie you.

So good luck with that in court.

Half of that has words with three or four syllables. You'd need someone to translate it for Olney for him to understand it. And even then they would have to talk slowly and use stick figures.

I'd love for Matt to show him how it works in court, though. :D

[Coppervale Studio]

I don't know Dennis at all - but I do know this (swiped from my own livejournal):

"The plural of anecdotes is not evidence."


...

[Matt Doc Martin]

Half of that has words with three or four syllables. You'd need someone to translate it for Olney for him to understand it. And even then they would have to talk slowly and use stick figures.

I'd love for Matt to show him how it works in court, though. :D

I can't get him to SHOW UP in court!

But if he asks me nicely, I will send him a Happy Meal bag all illustrated.

[Magneto_X]

I saw that too Danny. I'm curious if anyone's going to bother posting his little tirades here to read? If anyone cares, I'll hold onto the messages until that's been decided (or posted). I think the worse thing he said yet was that he was "supporting Unscrewed!. Officially." He has no clue how that can be taken, I think. "Support it YOR.. .hell you inspired it!" Dumbass.

Just when he can't get any dumber. Posting there is literally going to be a repeat of what this thread was.

Well, if anyone wants the Vile One's words stuck up for all to pee on... just let me know... I'll post it. (But please, quickly... the other mail in my inbox feels dirty just being in close proximity!).

Please post it. I'd love to see what shit he has to say since he has nowhere else to "explain himself".

[Magneto_X]

Just reading on Newarama about Gail's new dream project at DC



Boy, pRick was right, this "witchhunt" against him has really caused your career to go down the toilet, losing work and fans by the droves. He sure showed you. I just find it hilarious how completely wrong and clueless he is. :) What a jackass.

Congratulations Gail, I look forward to seeing the new book.

It could be Legion. I have heard Waid is leaving soon. That or Wonder Woman.

Either way I'll be reading whatever her new project is.

[Kurt Busiek]

How do I get to be considered a crumb catcher like Busiek or Waid?

You wanta be a crumb-catcher, son, you got to go catch you some crumbs.

[spits laconically]

kdb

[Magneto_X]

I am VERY disappointed, again, that people like Dennis and Jim Main have yet to take Rick to task for this. Instead, they keep enabling him.

IIRC Main kicked Olney off his forum thingy a few weeks ago.

Dennis hasn't changed, though.

[Danny Donovan]

You wanta be a crumb-catcher, son, you got to go catch you some crumbs.

[spits laconically]

kdb

Hmmm *raids the toaster trap*

SUCCESS!

[Matt Doc Martin]

IIRC Main kicked Olney off his forum thingy a few weeks ago.

Dennis hasn't changed, though.

There is more to that story than you know.

Off the group, yes. But Jim still supports Rick.

[Danny Donovan]

There is more to that story than you know.

Off the group, yes. But Jim still supports Rick.

How do you mean Matt?

[Coppervale Studio]

You wanta be a crumb-catcher, son, you got to go catch you some crumbs.

[spits laconically]

kdb

I'd like to point out for the record that every time I see Kurt in person, he somehow ends up eating half of my sandwich.

...

Just saying.

...

[Magneto_X]

Ah I see he's also back to picking on me.

As for the "quite cunning" thing, it comes from the TV series Firefly. Not a declaration of my own brilliance. The hat I'm wearing in my avatar was worn by the character Jayne to which he says "how's it sit? pretty cunning right?" to which in the fandom it spurned from the hat was forever known as the "cunning hat."


Another Firefly fan? Cool! :D

[Kurt Busiek]

Jim and George Demonakos run Emerald City. It started fairly small, but every year it grows and grows, because not only do new people want to go, the people who went last year want to go AGAIN. It's that fun, that well-organized, that enjoyable. There are bigger cons all over the place, but this one brings such a huge roster of big name talent SOLELY because of what Jim and George have done, and the amazing people they bring in to help. It's just a fun experience from start to finish, and you can go the entire con without hearing a negative word about the treatment and organization of guests, and all aspects really.

And here's the deal, at the very nice dinner they provide at the end of the show (a great chance for the guests to talk, and to thank the volunteers and staff who work so hard), Jim and George always come up and say hello, exhausted but courteous. And EVERY TIME, the guests burst into spontaneous applause, in appreciate for the great work these folks did. Every time. I've never heard a bad word about either of them, and I know of few events that are more looked forward to than Emerald City Comicon each year.

I'll second everything Gail says about ECCC, except the reimbursement thing, because we've never once needed them to reimburse us for anything; they've always been completely organized and top-notch.

I've been to every ECCC so far, and it just gets better every year. I don't plan on missing any in the forseeable future.

kdb

[OzBat!]

Picking through the debris of Olney's blog:I would like to make one thing quite clear. I never explain anything.' -- Mary Poppins

'Please, try to understand before one of us dies.' -- Basil Fawlty
DocAbsurd is online now


You're not paid because you're not owed, Tim. Neither is Danny. If I actually owed you something -- You'd have to kick back more to me based on your attacks against me. We used to talk sometimes twice a week by telephone on my dime. I'm actually going to continue to hope that you find your creative center and use it for your self satisfaction. Because all you've done is replace Bart Sears with me in your life. You're like that. You need someone to be your excuse for failure. Beyond that, I wish you well.Since we all know you're reading Rick, and we have all your comments saved to pdf and filed away for real legal action, you've just nailed yourself to the floor. There are emails from you, in your own words, outlining how much you owe people. Legally, you have no hope in hell of denying this, much as your pathetic little dodge and display of petulant hurt and indignation above would try and say otherwise. You've spelled out for the courts of the land in bright neon crayon that you have no intention of paying anybody what you owe. Guess how many court cases you're going to win, on imaginary appeal or real ones, with that declaration hanging over your head?

Slick move, slick.

[Kurt Busiek]

I'd like to point out for the record that every time I see Kurt in person, he somehow ends up eating half of my sandwich.

You got to amble slow, but you got to have fast hands.

Ain't just anyone can do it.

[twirls lasso made of paper clips]

kdb

[Magneto_X]

I can't get him to SHOW UP in court!

I know. I should have had a smiley to show I was being sarcastic. D'oh!

But if he asks me nicely, I will send him a Happy Meal bag all illustrated.

Heh.

*ten characters*

[Matt Doc Martin]

Well, well, well....


A VERY surprising source sent me this:

Yeah, they have never stopped. I took your sttaement and circulated it. Hopefully it'll get the proper consideration. I think harrassing a person about their veteran status is about as low as anyone can go.

"Gail" keeps saying things about my physical stamina now. First she called me stinky, as if I was a perfect picture of that old fanboy image ... and she did that maliciously. We both know that. Now she's saying I couldn't kick any of those troll asses (and I never implied or said that I could) because of my physical health. Well, duh!?

She's never seen Richie, Chris, Tim, Rich P., or Nelson. lol With my own convention posse ... nobody would get close to me.


(Emphasis mine)


No...Rick NEVER threatened ANYONE physically!
You don't ever want to approach me in person gain, weasel fuck. That should be crystal clear for you.


Now how do I respond to that?

Hmmm... okay. Let's assume that you were serious. Let's assume that I hold grudges far longer than anyone you've ever known in your entire miserable life. Let's assume that as a Marine, I'd have no problem defending myself...even with a little snow on the roof and extra log on the fire.

Thing is... you calling me names doesn't make you a brighter person. Could get your ass handed to you someday from someone that you used that ploy on, but it won't make you smarter, kmeyers.


See? Never threatens people at ALL!


Not all of his "friends" are his friends. His MMC forums apparently are a giant Olney circle jerk. Just wait for the new rants to begin.....


And Rick..."posse" or no, I am not and never was scared of you.

You threatened me and then never showed. You are a coward and I will call you such. Coward. Crawl back under the cupboards like the roach you are.

[Magneto_X]

There is more to that story than you know.

Off the group, yes. But Jim still supports Rick.

Ah, okay. I only know what Jim said on this thread p[ages ago. I'm disappointed to hear this but at least Jim is making an effort to distance himself from The Weasel.

[Matt Doc Martin]

How do you mean Matt?

I will PM you.

[Magneto_X]

There is more to that story than you know.

Off the group, yes. But Jim still supports Rick.

Ah, okay. I only know what Jim said on this thread pages ago. I'm disappointed to hear this but at least Jim is making an effort to distance himself from The Weasel.

[THEDOC]

I will PM you.

I would like to know as well, Matt.

[Danny Donovan]

I will PM you.

Back at'cha. ;)

I don't think it really means much of a relationship. But like I said who knows the real story?

In my dealings with Jim he seemed to be a real classy guy, just made some poor choices in the past.

As for not being "owed."

Danny,
First allow me to extended belated condolences on the passing of your step-father to you and your mom. I'm gald that life has settled down.

Cool that you're crankin' on Neitchzse Falling. Tell Jim Richey I said hello, okay? I figure he might grumble a little perhaps...but I did enjoy some of those conversations a time back before things went south. And Sarah... Heh, heh... glad to see that you were able to gain her colors. I hear that she's sweet and talented at her craft. 'Course, I couldn't get her contract out fast enough to suit her. Oh, well... we've recovered nicely and look to be cranking two books out before August (deadline is June release with a July cover) and two in the fall. That would be the one shot BLOOD HARVEST (which you and Gigi will be in) and DEEP BLUE.

Let me contact you on the columns/ebay money. I've added it to a short list and this time I'll walk it up the list as these debts get sent for pay-out. I can't promise an exact date ... but I'll make it as soon as possible.
I'll also throw in a couple BLOOD HARVEST t-shirts and a couple posters for you and Gigi.

Glad we can work this out. It should give all concerned some glee to learn that even Sam Catalino got pissed at me and walked off the MMC. Heh, heh... Tell Jim Richey that... he'll pee his pants laughing, I'll bet.

I guess I just can't help being a jerk sometimes. If this friendship is gonna work -- don't give me any advice. :) ;)
Hope all is well with you. You're a good guy.

~Rick


At this point I really don't care. The money only really mattered while I was taking care of my dying father. Now while it would be great as I help my family stay in the lifestyle they've grown accustomed, things are going good for me for the first time in a long time.

I'm doing a lot of stuff right now, some to help take care of important things, and some to come back from a deep funk I've been in vis-a-vis my career, or lack there of.

Some people say I am being hard on myself but I did expect to be further along by now. But some things were unavoidable (ie: step-father's cancer) and other things were just my own depression over not reaching my own unrealistic goals.

To this I say "whatever."

I'm working hard to help the unscrewed! thing and I'm going to get back on the ball, whether I succeed or not oen never knows. But at least I'm in a better headspace than I was years ago.

Maturity can be a good thing.

just so you know.

[Matt Doc Martin]

guess I just can't help being a jerk sometimes.

truer words NEVER spoken!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Double post.

here are MORE true words:

Rick Olney is a lying, deadbeat, cowardly wreck of a "man".

And he fears me.

[EdContradictory]

It did cross my mind, but actually apparently Geraldo & O'Reilly went at each other over the incident and the issues involved. So it's "news" enough worth quoting, if one is irate enough.

I think he found the story on a right wing blog and used it to his ends. I mean why else would the title only say "Beach" and not "Virginia Beach"?

I can only imagine him giddy at his own "cleverness" as he posted it.

[EdContradictory]

Oh, my god, now he's trotted out poor Dennis to be his apologist.

Yikes.

Does Olney EVER stand on his own two feet like a man?

Gail

That was the weirdest thing I ever read.

As to me?

I would like to say that I am making this statement of my own free will.

Rick and the Iranians have a lot in common.

[Danny Donovan]

I think he found the story on a right wing blog and used it to his ends. I mean why else would the title only say "Beach" and not "Virginia Beach"?

I can only imagine him giddy at his own "cleverness" as he posted it.

I thought that was a shot at me, considering I live in Portsmouth, which is about 30 minutes from VA Beach.

[DocAbsurd]

So now you're reneging, Moby? You gonna take back that you agreed to pay me $50 a column for toy reviews, 500 word minimum? Like I've said before, denial ain't a leaggle plea; deleting the columns won't make them disappear.

Well, well, well; lookie what I found:

Nine -- count 'em, nine of my columns, Six Points of Articulation (http://web.archive.org/web/20060102145045/www.mightyminicon.com/columns.asp?ID=6&archive=true). Go ahead; page through 'em, 'Griffin'. You didn't do nearly as good a job at making them invisible as you thought you did.

Now, you gonna claim I wrote them for free? You gonna claim you did me a favor by publishing me on the internet on your miserable little close-minded circle-jerk MMC site?

Then allow me to remind you of a little email you sent Daphne on 12/28/2006:

Looks like I picked a great time to post this.

Sorry I was quiet yesterday. Had to work both jobs, and I was still unwinding and settling down from the pain for over an hour; even had to call in sick today.

However, it looks like my Daphne hasn't been quiet. Apparently, Rick wrote her back:

'Hi Daphne, Merry Christmas! I have never called or reference Tim as my flunky" so you're aware.

'I actually owe Tim $300 dollars. That was for column writing that he did in support of my website two years back.'

(No, he actually owes me $450 for 9 columns, plus reimbursement for the toys reviewed and 'a little something extra for being so patient.' Head on over to the MMC site and see for yourself. I'd completely written off the last half dozen I completed when I was instructed by Rick himself to hold off until he got the finances together.)

Remember that, 'Tommy Flanagan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Live_characters_appearing_on_Weeken d_Update#Tommy_Flanagan.2C_the_Pathological_Liar)' ? If you don't, I can have it forwarded to you at any time to refresh your memory. That and a case of ginseng oughta stimulate those brain cells.

My attacks against you!?! What attacks are you referring to, the ones where I exposed you for the fraud you are? The ones where I pointed out your calling me a liar about my ex and the situation with my children? Those attacks? Funny how you consider the truth an 'attack'.

And, y'know, the whole incident with Bart Sears was a personal matter, something I discussed with you in private. Something I thought would remain so. I never blamed him for my lack of creative output; that was my own fault, for allowing the loss of my dream job to affect me that way. I may have held a grudge, kinda like you're holding one against Gail, Chuck, Mike, Roneé, and every single person who's called you the lying stink you are; but that's finished. I don't think I've talked to anyone about that in years. I've accepted the fact that I've been stymied because I've allowed myself to be stymied.

Unlike you, I don't need to blame anyone for my failures. I know the only person to blame is myself. Which is why I'm making great efforts to correct the matter. I also know my primary responsibility lies in the welfare of my children, which means I'm not expecting sudden fame and instant monetary gratification if I can't devote as much time to my cartooning and writing as I'd like. It also means I won't accept the assignments if I know I can't finish them.

Sound advice there, Aesop; mebbe you should write it down. Mebbe you're the one who needs to realize that you have absolutely no talent, creatively or editorially, to make a publishing house succeed, and stop blaming the annual delays of 4 comics and 2 conventions on us. Go back to being a 'fan'; go back to bragging about how many pros you've met in line at the deli; go back to recounting how you used to steal comics from the drugstore down the street.

I've said it before, I'll say it again:

You are your own worst enemy.

Now, bringing up something I discussed with you in private, making that personal matter (that I never thought of having you sign an NDA for) part of public knowledge . . .

That's an attack. It's also a breach of confidentiality, but you only worry about breaches when it seems to fall in your favor.

Wanna get into really personal attacks? Want me to really start talking about the private stuff you discussed with me? Shall I start bringing up personal matters you thought were safe with me? Up till now, I've dealt with topics that showed just how much of a fraudulent deadbeat you are; I've only talked about how you've screwed creators, worked and talked behind people's backs, kept information that might've helped stop others from getting the same raw fecking deal I got.

Up until now.

Just say the word, LooseLips.

'That's nice, but the ICC (and subsequent logo) is all Tim's. I erased the myspace page, and the Yahoo.com egroup. It can either be worked with or blow to the dust. I want nothing to do with small press and those people composing the cliques within it.'

Wanted to bring that up to the forefront. Kinda important matter there, especially since you now seem to feel the necessity to worm your way back into the good graces of those you insulted back in December. Mebbe you should put that on the MMC page, right after you offer small press creators free tables. Mebbe I should make that part of my signature. Mebbe I should play your dirty little game and post that in all small press groups, along with the offer to forward the email to anyone who requests it.

You've got a mighty short-term memory there.

Which is probably your strongest trait.

[Danny Donovan]

Remember that, 'Tommy Flanagan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Live_characters_appearing_on_Weeken d_Update#Tommy_Flanagan.2C_the_Pathological_Liar)' ? If you don't, I can have it forwarded to you at any time to refresh your memory. That and a case of ginseng oughta stimulate those brain cells.


Tommy was a more lovable liar. Everyone knew he was fulla shit but no one cared 'cause it was so obvious, and entertaining. lol. No one would believe he was married to Morgan Fairchild... :p

I was thinking more Tim Calhoun:

"I love whales. But they have to go. So I'm going to organize a whaling party that will not stop until all whales are dead."

"I am not married, so my sexual history is not relevant...but if you must know, I have some babies. Mainly by black ladies. But some by white. And a China-baby."

"When’s there going to be a China person on the Supreme Court? I propose.. never."

"I propose a little more California, and a little less Mexico."

"My candidacy is based on honesty, so there are a few things about me you should know. I've been in jail. It's not important how many times, but if you must know...I'd say...one, two, thirty-one times. There are times when I'm not gay at all. But then there are other times I'm so gay it more than makes up for it."

"I think burning the flag is wrong, but undercooking the flag is even worse...I have no past experience as a judge, but I have served as my own lawyer on several occasions. All of them turned out really bad."


"I am qualified to represent America. Because, like America, I am heavily in debt, I'm about ten percent gay, and I have a really bad gas problem."

[DocAbsurd]

Interesting.

I just got a threatening phone call from Rick Olney.

Phone rang, I answered, and heard:

'Take your best shot.'

Welcome to the land of police involvement. I'll be reporting the incident to the police.

[Darediva]

Did you get his new number from the caller ID? I'm just sayin'...

[DocAbsurd]

Olney, you are such a chicken shit. You blocked your number from being traced thru *69.

Be a man, Moby; grow a pair. I know you're reading this. Unblock your number and call when the police get here.

[TomStillwell]

Dennis knows full well about the people Rick has cheated and stolen from, making this all the more sad.

myspace.com/orcafresh


Creepy.

Gail

Hasn't that always been the case? Dennis enabling Rick's behavior?

[Chris Hansbrough]

guys going koo koo for cocoa puffs......

how many times can he shot himself in the foot....literally.....by now I even have to wonder if he's got a foot left. How in gods name can one stick their remaining foot so far down their throat that is starts coming our their ass......or it wuld if that wasn't so blocked up by him talking out of it so much

[TomStillwell]

I have to say something very, very notable about the difference between real convention organizers, and Rick "I don't have a clue" Olney.

Jim and George Demonakos run Emerald City. It started fairly small, but every year it grows and grows, because not only do new people want to go, the people who went last year want to go AGAIN. It's that fun, that well-organized, that enjoyable. There are bigger cons all over the place, but this one brings such a huge roster of big name talent SOLELY because of what Jim and George have done, and the amazing people they bring in to help. It's just a fun experience from start to finish, and you can go the entire con without hearing a negative word about the treatment and organization of guests, and all aspects really.

And here's the deal, at the very nice dinner they provide at the end of the show (a great chance for the guests to talk, and to thank the volunteers and staff who work so hard), Jim and George always come up and say hello, exhausted but courteous. And EVERY TIME, the guests burst into spontaneous applause, in appreciate for the great work these folks did. Every time. I've never heard a bad word about either of them, and I know of few events that are more looked forward to than Emerald City Comicon each year.

There was a slight mix-up in booking, and they fixed it immediately. They are to reimburse me for my expenses, and unlike with Rick "But I swear I sent the check!" Olney, I don't have a moment's hesitation. I know they'll pay every dime promptly because unlike Rick "I never met a pro I didn't cheat" Olney, their integrity is beyond reproach. They are professionals.

Contrast that with the Shitty Mini Con, a disaster from beginning to end, no organizition, broken promises in every direction, bad pr, bad faith, bad odors, no communication, and horrible attendance, and I have to say all I heard was people bitching and making fun of the ridiculous experience the whole time. When it was over, people slunk away so they wouldn't have to talk to Rick.

That's the difference. Emerald City Comicon, run by adults, by people with integrity and smarts, vs...not so much for the Mighty Shitty Con run by Rick "Two Years and I still haven't paid" Olney.


My suggestion?

Go to Emerald City and leave Rick to his pretend dreams of being important.

Gail

This is like the fifth great testament I've heard from folks in the last two days. I'm really going to do my darnest to be there next year.

[Coppervale Studio]

Interesting.

I just got a threatening phone call from Rick Olney.

Phone rang, I answered, and heard:

'Take your best shot.'

Welcome to the land of police involvement. I'll be reporting the incident to the police.

Oh, brother...

What a BIG man he is...

[Chris Hansbrough]

This is like the fifth great testament I've heard from folks in the last two days. I'm really going to do my darnest to be there next year.

do so. I'm still pissed I had to miss it this year. Freaking amazing show. it was actually my first convention ever and the place I first met gail too. This was easily now the second best convention I have ever been to (Last years wondercon was the best)

very fun show and one where I don't mind at all wandering the floor for the full alloted time. the creators there were fantastic and really.......it is how a convention should be run. with pure class.

[TomStillwell]

There is more to that story than you know.

Off the group, yes. But Jim still supports Rick.

I find that odd since Jim has been a big supporter of our Unscrewed! auctions.

[Chris Hansbrough]

Interesting.

I just got a threatening phone call from Rick Olney.

Phone rang, I answered, and heard:

'Take your best shot.'

Welcome to the land of police involvement. I'll be reporting the incident to the police.

gotta ask....did he say it then immediately hang up? because if he did.....well that's such a wussy move I'm growing a vagina just hearing about it.......Not to mention what if the kids answered...

[DocAbsurd]

Holy fucking shit, did you ever blow it, Olney.

'Aggravated harassment'.

You shoulda known better than to call me. You shoulda known better than to call a single parent with 2 small children in the house and bother me when I've made it absolutely clear I want nothing to do with you.

The police will be coming by to make a full report. The call will be traced. This will be forwarded to our attorney in the morning.

You.

Fucking.

Blew.

It.

[DocAbsurd]

He hung up immediately after he said, 'Take your best shot'.

I imagine he's so proud of himself he's writing a blog about it right now.

I'm also gonna be doing a bit of writing in the morning; I'm gonna post this in every single small press group I belong to.

Wassa matter, Olney; did I hurt u wittle feewings by calling you a 'no talent'? Did I strike home a little too closely? Did that clever maneuver pump up your wounded ego?

Here's another trick:

Call a number at random, and ask them if their fridge is running.

Sorry, Matt, but I'm gonna borrow one of your schticks:

Yer a fucking chicken shit, Olney.

Least I have enough class not to harass you at home. And you'll note, I still haven't talked about anything you confided in me.

[OzBat!]

maaaaaaaaaaaajor meltdown! Coming our way in 3.... 2.... 1....

[DaveRothe]

maaaaaaaaaaaajor meltdown! Coming our way in 3.... 2.... 1....

So what you're saying is Moby's gone fission? (Y'know fission-meltdown...sigh! Runs back in his cave.)

[TomStillwell]

maaaaaaaaaaaajor meltdown! Coming our way in 3.... 2.... 1....

This reminds me of a family member who had a meltdown once and the police were called in.

For years this person was enabled by her mother and father. She never really dealt with people outside the family anymore and her behavior was deplorable. The kind of stuff that would get you fired on the spot or ejected from public places. She hurt everyone around her emotionally on a daily basis.

I pleaded with her parents to get her some help.

"That's just how she is. She's really a good person deep down."

Finally her actions caused the neighbors to call the police. When the police came she tried to treat them as she had been treating her family members. She was detained and held for evaluation and treatment.

This is how it will end for Olney. Maybe soon even. The police will come and he leave them no choice but to take him away.

[Darediva]

From orcafresh's blog posts addressed to MacQ, where in each italicized instance below, orcafresh is talking about himself, as usual:


Quote:
Originally Posted by The nicest guy you'd ever want to meet...

Quote:
Originally Posted by The person that might be your father.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The guy that could kick your ass all over the State of Confusion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by a guy that would love to slap the snot outta your locker

Quote:
Originally Posted by The guy that thinks you owe him money!

It does, but proving a frivolous suit after your group has been officiall tagged a HATE GROUP will be easy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by the guy that one day soon will surprise you and make your jaw drop in a heartbeat.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Somebody that will piss on your grave someday

Excuse me. Don't most of these sound like some sort of threats to you? Not that anyone is REALLY worried, but that's what they sound like to me.

(The first one is just ridiculous, and the second one is just...bizarre.)

[Coppervale Studio]

This reminds me of a family member who had a meltdown once and the police were called in.

For years this person was enabled by her mother and father. She never really dealt with people outside the family anymore and her behavior was deplorable. The kind of stuff that would get you fired on the spot or ejected from public places. She hurt everyone around her emotionally on a daily basis.

I pleaded with her parents to get her some help.

"That's just how she is. She's really a good person deep down."

Finally her actions caused the neighbors to call the police. When the police came she tried to treat them as she had been treating her family members. She was detained and held for evaluation and treatment.

This is how it will end for Olney. Maybe soon even. The police will come and he leave them no choice but to take him away.

Well, we might finally discover the name of his legal counsel:

"Court Appointed."

[Darediva]

So what you're saying is Moby's gone fission? (Y'know fission-meltdown...sigh! Runs back in his cave.)

Quoted for hilarity!

[DaveRothe]

This reminds me of a family member who had a meltdown once and the police were called in.

For years this person was enabled by her mother and father. She never really dealt with people outside the family anymore and her behavior was deplorable. The kind of stuff that would get you fired on the spot or ejected from public places. She hurt everyone around her emotionally on a daily basis.

I pleaded with her parents to get her some help.

"That's just how she is. She's really a good person deep down."

Finally her actions caused the neighbors to call the police. When the police came she tried to treat them as she had been treating her family members. She was detained and held for evaluation and treatment.

This is how it will end for Olney. Maybe soon even. The police will come and he leave them no choice but to take him away.


"That's just how Rick is Tom. Deep down he's a really goos-" Bwahahahahahahaha even I can't get through saying that whole 2 sentences with a straight face. I tried.:p

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Interesting.

I just got a threatening phone call from Rick Olney.

Phone rang, I answered, and heard:

'Take your best shot.'

Welcome to the land of police involvement. I'll be reporting the incident to the police.

You have got to be kidding me...sadly I can alreayd see his strategy.

Temporary Intelligence...

I mean, insanity.

Doc, you alright?

JP

[JTPencils]

Holy fucking shit, did you ever blow it, Olney.

'Aggravated harassment'.

You shoulda known better than to call me. You shoulda known better than to call a single parent with 2 small children in the house and bother me when I've made it absolutely clear I want nothing to do with you.

The police will be coming by to make a full report. The call will be traced. This will be forwarded to our attorney in the morning.

You.

Fucking.

Blew.

It.

No doubt they asked how you knew it was Vile Boy. I'm sure that was one of the first questions.

But I'm not surprised at all. This is meltdown season. He's just about on schedule.

[Darediva]

Somebody tell this person (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=52876498&blogID=243868794&MyToken=475310b5-e7ec-4bc1-b0a4-e4d56e3e6055) (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=52876498&blogID=243868794&MyToken=475310b5-e7ec-4bc1-b0a4-e4d56e3e6055)not to fall for the flattery that orcafresh is posting. Looks like he's still surfing for the unwary artists as recently as March 21, 2007 by the date of this blog.

[CutterMike]

From orcafresh's blog posts addressed to MacQ, where in each italicized instance below, orcafresh is talking about himself, as usual:



Excuse me. Don't most of these sound like some sort of threats to you? Not that anyone is REALLY worried, but that's what they sound like to me.

(The first one is just ridiculous, and the second one is just...bizarre.)

Actually, the one that make my brain get all fizzy is "a guy that would love to slap the snot outta your locker".

(Cut to a close-up of Archie Bunker as he looks puzzled and confused: "Hanh..?")

[DocAbsurd]

Lemme explain a little something:

My ex was deemed 'mentally unfit' and 'emotionally unstable' by a court-appointed psychiatrist. I have a permanent Order of Protection against her on behalf of the Things because of her physical abuse to them. She was arrested for breaking that order in 2005.

As such, I am an excessively over-protective father. I guard them with my life. Last year when she was sighted near our house, I had the school enter into a lockdown and the police patrolling our neighborhood for the better part of the day.

I will stay awake all night pacing this house with either my walking stick or baseball in hand. I will allow nothing to threaten their safety.

Since that phone call, I have thrown up twice. Yeah, I know, he's a good 7 hours away; but the very thought that he'd call me out of the blue like that when nothing I've said before has prompted him to do so . . .

No. I'm not all right.

If he'd do something as utterly stupid as call me so late at night, there's no telling what he's capable of.

[DaveRothe]

Somebody tell this person (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=52876498&blogID=243868794&MyToken=475310b5-e7ec-4bc1-b0a4-e4d56e3e6055) (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=52876498&blogID=243868794&MyToken=475310b5-e7ec-4bc1-b0a4-e4d56e3e6055)not to fall for the flattery that orcafresh is posting. Looks like he's still surfing for the unwary artists as recently as March 21, 2007 by the date of this blog.

Messaged her Diva.

[Darediva]

Messaged her Diva.

Thank you, Dave. Forewarned before she gets short-armed by someone.

[Darediva]

Actually, the one that make my brain get all fizzy is "a guy that would love to slap the snot outta your locker".

(Cut to a close-up of Archie Bunker as he looks puzzled and confused: "Hanh..?")

I assume he's talking about breaking someone's nose (aka "snotlocker").

[DaveRothe]

Thank you, Dave. Forewarned before she gets short-armed by someone.

Well the choice is hers now. I've effectively said "Look out for the Magic Talking Whale that writes the crappy dialog!" That oughta dissuade ol' Orcaflush!

[OzBat!]

Doc, you wouldn't have been involved in this a single bit, if Rick hadn't mentioned your name to Rich Johnston.

Every single thing Rick has done since then has only served to dig himself further into his own disaster. And now, if there was a line left, he's crossed it.

Any repercussions, ALL repercussions that Olney suffers for this, are on his own head.

Don't feel bad, don't feel regret, don't give him another thought. Just Slam. Him. Hard.

[Darediva]

DocA, I do so admire you for being a protective father. Not enough people realize that many times it's the MOTHER who is the unfit parent, and that the father is the one with the real feelings and responsibilities. Good on you, and I am sending good thoughts your way during this stressful night.

[JTPencils]

Lemme explain a little something:

My ex was deemed 'mentally unfit' and 'emotionally unstable' by a court-appointed psychiatrist. I have a permanent Order of Protection against her on behalf of the Things because of her physical abuse to them. She was arrested for breaking that order in 2005.

As such, I am an excessively over-protective father. I guard them with my life. Last year when she was sighted near our house, I had the school enter into a lockdown and the police patrolling our neighborhood for the better part of the day.

I will stay awake all night pacing this house with either my walking stick or baseball in hand. I will allow nothing to threaten their safety.

Since that phone call, I have thrown up twice. Yeah, I know, he's a good 7 hours away; but the very thought that he'd call me out of the blue like that when nothing I've said before has prompted him to do so . . .

No. I'm not all right.

If he'd do something as utterly stupid as call me so late at night, there's no telling what he's capable of.

Doc, I can certainly understand your being so upset at this. But, if you take into account his history, he's pretty useless once he's blown his horn. I can only imagine that if he's found to be the caller (he'll probably proclaim he was drunk again, and shouldn't be held accountable... WRONG answer), he'll find himself needing REAL lawyers for once.

Try to remain calm, watch over the Things, and let the system work for you. It sure as hell won't for him.

[OzBat!]

The beauty of this situation? Rick has crossed over from the mythical fairy land he's been hiding in, of imaginary lawyers defending him from evil hate bashers claiming libellous things about non-payments, straight into the harsh reality of criminal law. He's about to find out how the justice system really works, the hard way.

Stupid git.

[JTPencils]

Well, we might finally discover the name of his legal counsel:

"Court Appointed."

If that happens, then he'll threaten us with the statement that he's got "the entire State of NY legal system in his back pocket".... ummmmmm... no Vile One... that's a summons.

[DocAbsurd]

Y'know what really bothers me?

I haven't spoken to you since . . . December? November? Why have you kept my number all this time? I don't have your number, old or new, yet you've clung to mine after 5 months of non-communication.

The nail in the coffin, Olney, is your claims that someone was calling your house and harassing your family. Tell me, what d'you think the police and the courts are gonna say about that now? Still believe that has any veracity when it's shown you called me, unprovoked and unsolicited?

And what's the rest of the small press community gonna think about you now? Still believe your claims of being the 'injured party' are gonna stand up? Still gonna cling to your martyrdom, that our actions are utterly unwarranted?

Word's gonna spread faster than your waistline, Porkchop. When I get the police report back, you can damn well bet it's gonna be posted everywhere. Hopefully Rich Johnston sees this and includes it in a column.

What I love is that I scared you so much that you actually threw common sense to the wind and did this. And when the time is traced to mere minutes after I posted, it's gonna show just how desperately you hang here for the mere mention of your name.

You are both desperate and pathetic.

[Chris Hansbrough]

The beauty of this situation? Rick has crossed over from the mythical fairy land he's been hiding in, of imaginary lawyers defending him from evil hate bashers claiming libellous things about non-payments, straight into the harsh reality of criminal law. He's about to find out how the justice system really works, the hard way.

Stupid git.

you know before this I just looked at him as a jackass who wouldn't pay. it happens, I've met folk like him and I dislike em all. But once you bring a mans family into things and essentially contact him personally with a threat when his children could have answered the phone....well that's so far beyond just being a jackass now. now it's become something flat out terrible.

[Coppervale]

He's just a coward, Doc. Plain and simple.

A coward.

Him cold calling you in the way that he did pisses me off for the same reason his threatening Josh pissed me off: it was something done to scare. Not to defend. Or fight. Or even provoke (although that's bad enough). Just. To. Scare.

That's cowardly.

And I have some experience with situations similar to your own - so I'm very sorry he did what he did. You know you have many supporters here. If you need anything, please ask.

[Coppervale]

He's just a coward, Doc. Plain and simple.

A coward.

Him cold calling you in the way that he did pisses me off for the same reason his threatening Josh pissed me off: it was something done to scare. Not to defend. Or fight. Or even provoke (although that's bad enough). Just. To. Scare.

That's cowardly.

And I have some experience with situations similar to your own - so I'm very sorry he did what he did. You know you have many supporters here. If you need anything, please ask.

That would be me, by the way... my main computer is logged in all the time under Coppervale Studio, and I'm at home on a different machine, and couldn't remember my password! But - I had this other account I could remember, so I posted.

And now I'm following up with my name - James A. Owen.

You know - like a MAN is supposed to do.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Doc

He's a piece of shit and should be regarded as such. He's nothing to be afraid of. He's a coward, a bully and a liar and nothing more. Don't let this guy make you afraid. Make him pay for it.

I can't do much man, but you got my support with whatever you do.

JP

[Koben Kelly]

Joshy Pants!!

Call up Big Petey, Little Petey, Johnny Coffeecakes, Eddie Two-Bones, Micky the Mick, Slick Sal, The King, Stan the Man, and Jazzy John... get them to talk to this mook.

Fuhgeddaboudit.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

I'll get the boys on the case. Just don't ask any questions. It's nobody else's biziness!

JP

In Thisa house we speaka the english!

[Coppervale]

I'll get the boys on the case. Just don't ask any questions. It's nobody else's biziness!

JP

In Thisa house we speaka the english!

After careful consideration of the situation - I think Johnny Coffeecakes, alone, with one arm in a sling, an eyepatch, and a roaring case of the fast track Sallies should do the trick.

Or the name of an ACTUAL lawyer.

[Tegan]

Go to Emerald City and leave Rick to his pretend dreams of being important.

Amen. I've been to all five Emerald City Comicons so far, and intend to go to as many as I can in the future. People that matter show up at Emerald City. RO will be lucky to get any comic book guest at all.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

After careful consideration of the situation - I think Johnny Coffeecakes, alone, with one arm in a sling, an eyepatch, and a roaring case of the fast track Sallies should do the trick.

Or the name of an ACTUAL lawyer.

So you've met Johnny Coffeecakes then I see.

JP

[Coppervale]

So you've met Johnny Coffeecakes then I see.

JP

Yep. Cool dude. I had NO idea that Verne Troyer even HAD a stunt double until I met Johnny.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

I know. It's amazing what you can learn just by talking to people. Just don't mention Verne too much. There was a poker game involved...it gets messy...

JP

[Coppervale]

I know. It's amazing what you can learn just by talking to people. Just don't mention Verne too much. There was a poker game involved...it gets messy...

JP

Yeah. Verne tends to pee all over everything. Remids me of... of...

*snap*

I knew it.

We've come full circle to RO's Yellow Stream of Evil.

[DocAbsurd]

Nah, I ain't afraid. I'd have to view him as a threat to be afraid.

He instills as much fear as he does confidence as a writer. He's an utterly contemptible and ineffectual individual. If it weren't for what I've been through with my ex and the safety of my children, I'd be laughing myself to sleep right now.

That call was inexcusable, Olney. There's no way you can pretend it didn't happen. No amount of back-pedaling or retconning or post-erasing is gonna make this go away.

You proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself. You never considered for a moment who might answer the phone, that maybe my children could have been awake. They're still terrified of their 'mother'; you woulda scared the shit outta them if they had gotten a call like that. But that doesn't matter to you, does it? You just had to prove how tough you can be. I'm not even under contract with you; tell me what the hell made you think doing that would be a good idea?

Yeah, there's an action a Marine would be proud of: cold-calling someone cuz they wrote something on the internet that made you wet yourself. You really should write a blog about that, Olney, make sure all your 'friends' know just what a hard-ass you are. Write it and wait for the congratulatory remarks to come pouring in. Better yet, add that to your NDA: 'I, Rick Olney, reserve the right to call you, the creator, any time of day or night, especially if you write something that makes me seem weak or ineffectual.'

Stand proud, Rick Olney; today you are a man.

[Gail Simone]

Well, well, well....


A VERY surprising source sent me this:



(Emphasis mine)


No...Rick NEVER threatened ANYONE physically!






See? Never threatens people at ALL!


Not all of his "friends" are his friends. His MMC forums apparently are a giant Olney circle jerk. Just wait for the new rants to begin.....


And Rick..."posse" or no, I am not and never was scared of you.

You threatened me and then never showed. You are a coward and I will call you such. Coward. Crawl back under the cupboards like the roach you are.



Rick himself admitted he was a blubbering sweaty red-faced mess after climbing that set of stairs in this same thread. My husband and I rushed to carry in the rest of the boxes because we thought he was going to throw up and die after that one flight of stairs.

As usual, he forgets what lies he's told.

And now he has his (snicker) 'posse' after all his threats and badass talk.

I ask again, has this guy EVER stood on his own two feet like a man?

Gail

[Gail Simone]

"I'll also throw in a couple BLOOD HARVEST t-shirts and a couple posters for you and Gigi. "

The CLASSIC Rick "I Never Pay Anyone" Olney deadbeat cambit. Promise some worthless piece of shit perk no one in their right mind wants anyway as a diversionary and delaying tactic.

Then don't deliver the money OR the 'perk.'

Gail

[TonyIsabella]

I'm not sure how the Vile One's alleged military service has anything to do with Super Hero News, but, man, was that pathetic.

I reserve the standard "warning" for when the Vile One actually tries to push his non-existent comic books or conventions, but, since he sent this to me as an e-mail as well, I'll probably write about it somewhere. Or not. I have several actual comics jobs and offers on my desk at the moment. I'm sure their not as cool as Gail's coming gig - congrats and can't wait to hear more about it - but they ain't bad for an old guy.

And when did we "officially" become a Hate Group? Did the paperwork finally come through? I can't believe the nonsense that Olney spouts.

That's all for now. Just checking in. I'll be back as time permits.

Tony

P.S. Actually posted five new "Tony's Online Tips" column last week...and I think I can manage at least four this week.

http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/tony

[DocAbsurd]

It looks like Super Hero News is pretty fed up with Olney, Tony. There were 2 requests today to have Olney and his spam removed from the group.

You're doing it again, Moby.

[singoalla]

T'shit really hit the fan, didn't it. So who else wants popcorn during this latest melt-down? Just cleaned the microwave oven, and I've got plenty of bags and butter.

[TomStillwell]

Nah, I ain't afraid. I'd have to view him as a threat to be afraid.

He instills as much fear as he does confidence as a writer. He's an utterly contemptible and ineffectual individual. If it weren't for what I've been through with my ex and the safety of my children, I'd be laughing myself to sleep right now.

That call was inexcusable, Olney. There's no way you can pretend it didn't happen. No amount of back-pedaling or retconning or post-erasing is gonna make this go away.

You proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself. You never considered for a moment who might answer the phone, that maybe my children could have been awake. They're still terrified of their 'mother'; you woulda scared the shit outta them if they had gotten a call like that. But that doesn't matter to you, does it? You just had to prove how tough you can be. I'm not even under contract with you; tell me what the hell made you think doing that would be a good idea?

Yeah, there's an action a Marine would be proud of: cold-calling someone cuz they wrote something on the internet that made you wet yourself. You really should write a blog about that, Olney, make sure all your 'friends' know just what a hard-ass you are. Write it and wait for the congratulatory remarks to come pouring in. Better yet, add that to your NDA: 'I, Rick Olney, reserve the right to call you, the creator, any time of day or night, especially if you write something that makes me seem weak or ineffectual.'

Stand proud, Rick Olney; today you are a man.

Doc, please take every legal recourse you can to nail home to Ricky just how wrong this act was. I want him to explain himself to an officer of the law and later on a judge.

[the4thpip]

DocA, I do so admire you for being a protective father. Not enough people realize that many times it's the MOTHER who is the unfit parent, and that the father is the one with the real feelings and responsibilities.

Too true. My brother (who is involved in a lengthy custody battle with his crazy ex over his 3 year old daughter) finally got a meeting with the head of Germany's child protection agency last week to discuss their web site which only features examples of abusive and deadbeat fathers. They promised him to look into changing that. Seems they hadn't even noticed.

[Blake Petit]

Please keep up posted, Doc. I've never wanted so badly to watch someone get their ass nailed to the wall.

[CutterMike]

Doc - I can't offer you anything but my best thoughts; that phone call was... unspeakably vile.

As noted above, Olney has gone on about how he "had to change (his) phone number" because of harrassment calls, but fails to indicate whether any were of the "Hello, Mr. Olney. This is xxxxx from the Collections Department at yyyyy, regarding your account..", or the "Yes, Mr. Olney; I'm calling from St. Jude Children's Research Hospital about..." variety (the likeliest sort, I suspect).

That he THEN has the unmitigated gall to pull a stunt like that is just...

...I don't have the words...

...So allow me to borrow frm M. Roget:

...abhorrent, abominable, accursed, atrocious, awful, base, bastardly, beastly, characterless, cheap, cheesy, coarse, contemptible, corrupt, crappy, cruddy, crummy, déclassé, degrading, depraved, despicable, detestable, dirtbag, disgraceful, disgusting, dishonorable, disreputable, distasteful, dreadful, execrable, feculent, foul, god-awful, gross, hateable, hateful, heinous, horrid, ignoble, immoral, impure, indelicate, infamous, inferior, insignificant, loathsome, lousy, low, lowly, maggotyy, mangy, mean, monstrous, nasty, nauseating, no-good, noisome, objectionable, obnoxious, obscene, odious, offensive, outrageous, polluted, putrid, raunchy, repellent, reprehensible, repugnant, repulsive, revolting, rinky-dink, rotten, rubbishy, scandalous, scurvy, scuzzy, shabby, shameful, shameless, shocking, shoddy, sickening, skanky, sleazy, slimy, small-time, sordid, sorry, squalid, stinking, tatty, tawdry, terrible, two-bit, unacceptable, vile, vulgar, worthless, wretched, yucky...

(And that's just page ONE!)

I used to work with a fellow that, at an earlier time in his life, had been a Corrections Officer. On being faced with someone like Olney, his usual response, would be to fold his hands, shake his head sadly, and say, "...Inherently Untrainable..."

[DocAbsurd]

Typical.

Looks like Hit-n-Run Olney struck again.

The blog where he comes after Danny and myself has been deleted. Which means he's trying to retcon the fact that he wrote about my personal matters. Which means another bout of 'He started it! Look, I didn't reveal any of his personal secrets!' I even tried leaving a comment on the blog, only to find it's closed to comments. How much of a chicken shit can one man be?

Nice try, Hit-n-Run.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Typical.

Looks like Hit-n-Run Olney struck again.

The blog where he comes after Danny and myself has been deleted. Which means he's trying to retcon the fact that he wrote about my personal matters. Which means another bout of 'He started it! Look, I didn't reveal any of his personal secrets!' I even tried leaving a comment on the blog, only to find it's closed to comments. How much of a chicken shit can one man be?

Nice try, Hit-n-Run.

He is a HUGE chicken shit.

What he did was unconscionable.

Please keep me posted, even if only by pm, as to any developments.

Unleash the hounds!

[Gail Simone]

I'm not sure how the Vile One's alleged military service has anything to do with Super Hero News, but, man, was that pathetic.

I reserve the standard "warning" for when the Vile One actually tries to push his non-existent comic books or conventions, but, since he sent this to me as an e-mail as well, I'll probably write about it somewhere. Or not. I have several actual comics jobs and offers on my desk at the moment. I'm sure their not as cool as Gail's coming gig - congrats and can't wait to hear more about it - but they ain't bad for an old guy.

And when did we "officially" become a Hate Group? Did the paperwork finally come through? I can't believe the nonsense that Olney spouts.

That's all for now. Just checking in. I'll be back as time permits.

Tony

P.S. Actually posted five new "Tony's Online Tips" column last week...and I think I can manage at least four this week.

http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/tony



Well, we MIGHT be a hate group, if Deadbeaticus Nopayimus is a race or species...


And congrats on your gigs, I'm sure they're very cool!

Gail

[Cam63]

Well, we MIGHT be a hate group, if Deadbeaticus Nopayimus is a race or species...

He could a 1950s Chuck Jones cartoon character with a superimposed title of " Deadbeaticus Nopayus " underneath and calls of " BOOOOO ! " whenever he appears.

What theme music would suit him ?

[Flamebird]

He could a 1950s Chuck Jones cartoon character with a superimposed title of " Deadbeaticus Nopayus " underneath and calls of " BOOOOO ! " whenever he appears.

What theme music would suit him ?


The Battle Hymn of the Republic, played backwards. :rolleyes:

[Matt Doc Martin]

The Battle Hymn of the Republic, played backwards. :rolleyes:

I always imagined the Benny Hill music for some reason.

[Matt Doc Martin]

HA! Over on his MVCN blog, he deleted my comments and the comments of what looks like a sock puppet friend of his, judging by the way the guy just compliments him and how Rick explained things to him.

Poor, poor Rick. All talk and not even THAT holds up.

[Chris Hansbrough]

Well, we MIGHT be a hate group, if Deadbeaticus Nopayimus is a race or species...


And congrats on your gigs, I'm sure they're very cool!

Gail

I still can't believe that he calld this an official hate group.....that's quite possibly the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. not just a hate group but an official hate group......

where do I get by membership card and funny hat. we need to get funny hats...we'll wear them tall cat in the hat hats with 4 stripes, yellow aqua black Saphire....

yeah funny hats and membership cards......then we need to do a march somewhere. official hate group....hehehehe

This isn't a hate group....it's a large group of random people a lot of which have no connection to one another in real life outside of a board that are standing up to a nutjob's Bullshit.

[Flamebird]

I always imagined the Benny Hill music for some reason.

Benny is WAY too classy for him.











But then again, so is Hong Kong Phooey! :rolleyes:

[G-Spot]

So, who here is going to be at the Pittsburgh Comicon? I ask, because with the way RO's acting, I'm sure he'll think he's safe to go there, and even try enlisting small-press/up-and-comers to work for him. I'm thinking of making flyers that feature his face and company logo, warning people to stay away from him.

I do know if he shows, and approaches my family or me, I will ask for his removal, as I feel he is a threat, since I have posted to this "libel-thread" and he has threatened many people on it.

[KevinTBrown]

I'm dying to know if Olney has any plans to show at Chicago Con...... I suspect he'd greeted, um, "warmly" by the masses. (Warmly being substituted for "with pitchforks and flaming torches".)

[Comcman]

Sadly, I will only be there on Sunday and I will be working the store table. But I will be keeping my eyes open for him.

[Matt Doc Martin]

So, who here is going to be at the Pittsburgh Comicon? I ask, because with the way RO's acting, I'm sure he'll think he's safe to go there, and even try enlisting small-press/up-and-comers to work for him. I'm thinking of making flyers that feature his face and company logo, warning people to stay away from him.

I do know if he shows, and approaches my family or me, I will ask for his removal, as I feel he is a threat, since I have posted to this "libel-thread" and he has threatened many people on it.

He will not be there. Or Chicago.

[Reverend Smooth]

Good job, Olney, you've just insured that people will work harder to bring your misdeeds to light.

[Danny Donovan]

Typical.

Looks like Hit-n-Run Olney struck again.

The blog where he comes after Danny and myself has been deleted. Which means he's trying to retcon the fact that he wrote about my personal matters. Which means another bout of 'He started it! Look, I didn't reveal any of his personal secrets!' I even tried leaving a comment on the blog, only to find it's closed to comments. How much of a chicken shit can one man be?

Nice try, Hit-n-Run.

My track record with bullies is pretty well known. ;) I have resources that makes it very dumb to mess with me.



And when did we "officially" become a Hate Group? Did the paperwork finally come through? I can't believe the nonsense that Olney spouts.



We're getting the hoods and the locations to the secret meeting grounds in the mail in 6 to 8 weeks.

And congrats on the gig Gail.

Looking forward to seeing your work on it! And see the book come out regularly. lol. (If what I heard is the right thing)

[Chris Hansbrough]

Looking forward to seeing your work on it! And see the book come out regularly. lol. (If what I heard is the right thing)

I still prefer the funny hats......funny hats are better than hoods.....hoods imply hating a race or people rather than just scummy cheapskates

[Howler]

Has anyone found out who did the art for the Tales of the Spooky #2 yet? All I could find out so far is that Rick posted the first page on December 14, 2006 but he made no mention of who the artist is.

Last night while looking for the artist, I came across a lot of pages of art I've never seen before that I found posted online. So far I have found:

6 pages + script for Back Seat Terror
6 pages + script for Eminent Domain
6 pages for Landlord
6 pages + script for Cellar Garden
6 pages + script for Lord Percy
6 pages + script for The Creeps
6 pages + script for The Wall
6 pages for Spooky Dolls
5 pages for Freedom 3
10 pages + 3 covers for Monster Squad

This story continues to get sadder and sadder the more I look into it. With the talent of the people Rick had on board for Tales of the Spooky #1 and #2, not to mention the other titles, he could have sold a lot of books. Ya know, if he had paid anyone and had any kind of publishing ability at all.

I hope the artists and writers of the above mentioned work get paid someday.

[Danny Donovan]

I still prefer the funny hats......funny hats are better than hoods.....hoods imply hating a race or people rather than just scummy cheapskates


That's why we have Alice! She can alter the hoods to funny hats! And we don't have to order new things! lol.

The beauty of a creative commune. You get the wrong thing you make it into the right thing! lol.

[MacQuarrie]

I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to Rick Olney for doubting his military record.

I have here before a copy of NA Form 13164, the information releasable under the Freedom of Information Act, showing Military Service for Richard Lee Olney II.

Maybe somebody here with military knowledge can translate some of this into civilian terms...

Page 1:
Name: Richard Lee Olney II.
Branch of Service: Marine Corps
Dates of Service: November 7, 1972 - November 11, 1975
Duty Status: Discharge
Rank/Grade: Corporal
Salary: N/A
Source of Commission: N/A
Promotion Sequence Number: N/A
Assignments and Geographical Locations: See Attachment
Military Education: See Attachment
Decorations and Awards: National Defense Service Medal
Transcript of Court-Martial Trial: Not in File
Photograph: N/A
Place of Entry: Albany, NY
Place of Separation: Norfolk, VA

Page 2
Service Schools, Technical Training and Military Correspondence Courses Completed:
School Attended and Location | Course | No. Weeks | Mo./Year Completed | Incomplete | Class Standing or Grade
MCSSS, MCB, CamLej | BasSupAdminCrs | 4 | 7305 | - | {DELETED}
MCI Wash D.C. | MARINE CORPS STOCK LISTS | - | 731025 | {DELETED}
MCI Washington D.C. | The Marine NCO | - | 1073 | - | -
MCI Washington D.C. | SASSY: Organic Procedures | - | 0173 | - | B
MCI Washington D.C. | The Marine NCO | - | 7407 | - | -

Page 3
Record of Service
(I'll scan this and send it to anyone who wants to see it.)

I don't see any indication on here that he went overseas, but I also don't know what any of these abbreviations mean, so I could be wrong on that.
Long and short of it is, the issue is settled. Rick Olney is in fact a USMC veteran, albeit one with an utterly undistinguished record.

I apologize for accusing you of lying, Rick.

[Magneto_X]

Does anybody else see Rick's crimes actually escalating in nature?

(Especially after giving Doc Absurd a threateneding phonecall.)

That's why I think Gail should have some bodyguard (either security staff and/or husband) with her when she goes to convention in case Reek shows up.

He's getting more and more unstable. If he snaps I don't want him to hurt anyone at a con. :(

[Magneto_X]

Does anybody else see Rick's crimes actually escalating in nature?

(Especially after giving Doc Absurd a threatening phonecall.)

That's why I think Gail should have some bodyguard (either security staff and/or husband) with her when she goes to convention in case Reek shows up.

He's getting more and more unstable. If he snaps I don't want him to hurt anyone at a con. :(

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to Rick Olney for doubting his military record.

I have here before a copy of NA Form 13164, the information releasable under the Freedom of Information Act, showing Military Service for Richard Lee Olney II.

Maybe somebody here with military knowledge can translate some of this into civilian terms...

Page 1:
Name: Richard Lee Olney II.
Branch of Service: Marine Corps
Dates of Service: November 7, 1972 - November 11, 1975 3 years? Odd length of time to serve. Gives more credence to my "Medical Discharge" theory.
Duty Status: Discharge So does this.
Rank/Grade: Corporal
Salary: N/A
Source of Commission: N/A
Promotion Sequence Number: N/A
Assignments and Geographical Locations: See Attachment
Military Education: See Attachment
Decorations and Awards: National Defense Service Medal Hmmm....no "Meritorious Masts?
Transcript of Court-Martial Trial: Not in File
Photograph: N/A
Place of Entry: Albany, NY
Place of Separation: Norfolk, VA

Page 2
Service Schools, Technical Training and Military Correspondence Courses Completed:
School Attended and Location | Course | No. Weeks | Mo./Year Completed | Incomplete | Class Standing or Grade
MCSSS, MCB, CamLej | BasSupAdminCrs | 4 | 7305 | - | {DELETED}
MCI Wash D.C. | MARINE CORPS STOCK LISTS | - | 731025 | {DELETED}
MCI Washington D.C. | The Marine NCO | - | 1073 | - | -
MCI Washington D.C. | SASSY: Organic Procedures | - | 0173 | - | B
MCI Washington D.C. | The Marine NCO | - | 7407 | - | -

Page 3
Record of Service
(I'll scan this and send it to anyone who wants to see it.)

I don't see any indication on here that he went overseas, but I also don't know what any of these abbreviations mean, so I could be wrong on that.
Long and short of it is, the issue is settled. Rick Olney is in fact a USMC veteran, albeit one with an utterly undistinguished record.

I apologize for accusing you of lying, Rick.

Please send me scans of everything.

And this shows he was never overseas.

[Danny Donovan]

I apologize for accusing you of lying, Rick.

See? Owning up for mistakes!!!!!!!!!

Heartfelt apologies for wrongdoing.

This is what honest people do.

[TonyIsabella]

I'm curious as to what these two items...


Duty Status: Discharge

Transcript of Court-Martial Trial: Not in File


...mean. Is "discharge" somewhere between "honorable" and "dishonorable"?

Does the transscript of court-martial trial line mean he was court-martialed or does it just appear on every form of this nature?

Tony

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'm curious as to what these two items...



...mean. Is "discharge" somewhere between "honorable" and "dishonorable"?

Does the transscript of court-martial trial line mean he was court-martialed or does it just appear on every form of this nature?

Tony

Could be. If he got a Medical Discharge, it isn't "Dishonarable"...merely separation.

And please note he looks like he was a supply clerk...NOT an MP.

So Dennis is mistaken or a liar. And Rick, regardless of this, is STILL a liar. He was not an MP, he was NOT overseas, and he did NOT get an Honorable Discharge.

[Tegan]

Long and short of it is, the issue is settled. Rick Olney is in fact a USMC veteran, albeit one with an utterly undistinguished record.

Pathetic that you had to go request his records when he could've proved it in two seconds by himself had he just answered the simple questions asked of him.

Then again, he wants and desperately craves the attention this brings him, so answering simple questions isn't his style.

[JamesRitcheyIII]

Please send me scans of everything.

And this shows he was never overseas.

There was always doubt in my mind as to whether he served or not, so I never got involved in those discussions. I've had good drinking buddies who were Marines, two of them Vietnam era, and while it seemed Rick knew things about the Marines, he didn't know shit about Vietnam, specifically-- incursions into Laos and Cambodia that, while secret, you can't throw a rock at a real Vietnam Vet who didn't know about them.

That middle ground between 'Honorable' and 'Dishonorable' Discharge would explain a lot--like why he went apeshit paranoid when I brought up the fact that my ex-girlfriend had served 3 years in the Marines, and been discharged on what I conjectured to be psychological issues.:D A Marine serves six years, unless deemed unfit for duty. What a clerk in Washington, DC could do to be considered unfit for duty boggles my imagination--and I have a healthy one. Did he go 'postal' and give fellow Marines nasty paper cuts?

He's been quoted here as saying he served seven years, has shown pictures as implied proof of being in a military unit he was never anywhere near, and waves the flag every time he's revealed to be the fraudulent, 'armchair General', Tin Dictator jackass that he is.

'Marine's Marine', my ass.

[Danny Donovan]

He's been quoted here as saying he served seven years, has shown pictures as implied proof of being in a military unit he was never anywhere near, and waves the flag every time he's revealed to be the fraudulent, 'armchair General', Tin Dictator jackass that he is.

'Marine's Marine', my ass.

Well at least 5 that we know of. The three in the corps and the 2 in the National Gaurd, that he apprently didn't like.

[Gail Simone]

Fair enough, and well done, Mac!

Gail

[MacQuarrie]

Well at least 5 that we know of. The three in the corps and the 2 in the National Gaurd, that he apprently didn't like.

I listed the Guard in my request, but it doesn't show up in the records I received. There's absolutely nothing other than Rick's word to support that claim.

[MacQuarrie]

If I'm puzzling out these abbreviations correctly, I think I see some reasons why he didn't want anyone to see his records.

Does anyone know, if the records say "SupCo, 3dServBn, 3dMar DivFMF, FPO, SFran, CA" could that mean he was overseas? I know when my brother was on an aircraft carrier with the Navy, mail to him was addressed to an FPO address.

[MacQuarrie]

I'm curious as to what these two items...



...mean. Is "discharge" somewhere between "honorable" and "dishonorable"?

Does the transscript of court-martial trial line mean he was court-martialed or does it just appear on every form of this nature?

Tony

I don't know if the FOIA records would state whether the discharge was "honorable", "general", "medical" or otherwise. If we really want to know, we have to convince Rick to sign an authorization.

As to teh second, it's a standard form; I think the "not in file" entry indicates that there's no record he was ever court-martialed, and no reason to suspect he was. It's on the form so they have to put something in the box.

In other words, the question of whether he was honorably discharged is pure speculation in the absence of evidence, and there's nothing in the records to indicate otherwise, unless somebody knows how to read these things better than I do. Which is entirely likely, as the closest I've ever been to the military was playing a soldier in Macbeth's army.

[TomStillwell]

I'm dying to know if Olney has any plans to show at Chicago Con...... I suspect he'd greeted, um, "warmly" by the masses. (Warmly being substituted for "with pitchforks and flaming torches".)

Believe me, Olney wouldn't dare show up at Wizard World Chicago. He'd be greeted by the truth exposing firm of MacQuarrie, Rothe, & Stillwell...who will all be in attendance.

[Reverend Smooth]

So, to sum up for the doped-up gimp: He WAS in the military, but he LIED about how long and about what he did.

[Danny Donovan]

SupCo = Commander, Naval Supply Systems

FPO = Fleet post office,

Those are the only two I'm familiar with.

Basically (I think) it meant he worked in the post office in San Fran. (maybe that's where his homophobia comes from?)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

SupCo = Commander, Naval Supply Systems

FPO = Fleet post office,

Those are the only two I'm familiar with.

Basically (I think) it meant he worked in the post office in San Fran. (maybe that's where his homophobia comes from?)

Well there was a lotta free love going on in that area with those dirty hippies ! :p

[Danny Donovan]

And another thing.

For awhile when I was a teen living in North Yorkshire, England I had a part time job working over on the US base over there (civil servant job in the restaraunt) the mail is called an APO for overseas mail. FPO would be for in-country mail.

again, I wasn't in the service, just came from a Navy town and frequented RAF bases in England.

[DaveRothe]

Believe me, Olney wouldn't dare show up at Wizard World Chicago. He'd be greeted by the truth exposing firm of MacQuarrie, Rothe, & Stillwell...who will all be in attendance.

Hope to see you there Dickie!