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Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 05:54 PM
Dude! o.o Details.


I spent some hard earned money to upgrade the distribution packet on PR Leap's website so it should be available on google news on the 24th when it goes live from PR Leaps servers.

;)

I wish it was a more thrilling story than "I just threw money at it" but you know.. :p

Reverend Smooth
03-23-2007, 06:06 PM
I wish it was a more thrilling story than "I just threw money at it" but you know.. :p
That's usually at the root of most thrilling stories anyway.

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 06:18 PM
Dungbeetles are actually very useful creatures, so it just doesn't fit.

It was the whole "eating shit" thing I was going for

Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 06:21 PM
It was the whole "eating shit" thing I was going for

And we know how much Rick Olney LOVES to eat!

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 06:26 PM
Joanne, you'd be a participant! ;)

~Bev

Can I join in if I bring my etchings?

DocAbsurd
03-23-2007, 06:28 PM
There's something Moby keeps forgetting:

There's a good number of us that were never required to sign no bloody NDAs. We never had anything to keep 'secret'. And our output was visible for years, despite recent 'deletions' to the contrary. So what vow of silence did we break that prevented us from being paid for 3 years?

Ugly enough, he was (seemingly) more trustworthy when he was operating without all this bullshit 'leagglese'.

Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 06:40 PM
I am in contact with someone who may be another Olney victim. I am awaiting details. He wants to sign the letter as well.

We will see.

Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 06:44 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/leaggle.jpg

Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 07:10 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/leaggle.jpg

One problem. Rick never sues anyone. He only threatens to.

Otherwise, spot on.

Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 07:29 PM
Part of me misses cockroach's posts here and on his ever vanishing blog.

I'd love to see his rants and denials about yesterday's news:

Again, not only did McDonald's GLADLY give me a stack of Happy Meal bags when I shared the story, but I also got another letter from the NY Attorney General that let me know Rick is still being looked into.

See how I disprove everything you say, Rick? What is your next wild claim?

Want my address?

Cam63
03-23-2007, 07:29 PM
Notice, he STILL hasn't answered my two VERY simple questions that ANY REAL MARINE CAN ANSWER!

Lying deadbeat cockroachturd.

~Bev

1. How far can a drill intructor's boot insert inself into a recruit's arse.

Answer: Depends on the size of the DI's foot.

and 2. How long does one keep his/her sense of honour if they ever served in the USMC ?

Answer: Beyond death.

Cam63
03-23-2007, 07:39 PM
P.S. My daughter's root canal surgery went exceedingly well this morning. The damaged tooth even looks a little brighter, though it'll still need to be bleached at some point in the near future. But this clears the way for the orthodontist to begin the treatment that will get her teeth back where they belong.

That's beaut news, Tony.

She has our regards.

Cam63
03-23-2007, 07:44 PM
Mercedes is a much bigger name than Larry. Mercedes has 7 letters while Larry has 5. Unless she is going by Misty, then they are both about the same. :D


....what?

When you use Australian abbreviation, Lazza is one letter longer than Merc'.

...unless you call him Laz.

Cam63
03-23-2007, 07:51 PM
Let's just shorten that to dungbeetle, eh?

I'll have you know the dungbeetle is a useful and noble beast !

Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 08:17 PM
I'll have you know the dungbeetle is a useful and noble beast !

And now we have proof of the dung beetle's superiority to Rick Olney

Cam63
03-23-2007, 08:23 PM
I'm feeling a bit cranky today, having received some medical news that wasn't as positive as my daughter's. So, if I pissed off anyone other than Rick Olney, they have my apologies.

Good luck your medical news is better next time, Tony.

Cam63
03-23-2007, 08:24 PM
And now we have proof of the dung beetle's superiority to Rick Olney

They should have statues erected in their honour.

Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 08:25 PM
They should have statues erected in their honour.

Maybe it'll be "Devil Bug"'s new name.

:p

"Tightlip Entertainment bring you DUNG BEETLE!"

Cam63
03-23-2007, 08:27 PM
Sorry. My penis tends to block the view of some.

You should get a building permit for that thing.

Cam63
03-23-2007, 08:30 PM
Can I join in if I bring my etchings?

Didn't the ointment clear it* Ohhh..." etchings. "

Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 08:33 PM
You should get a building permit for that thing.



Or watch more of The View (http://abc.go.com/daytime/theview/)

"My name is Bawbwa Wawa. Wosie and I will be kiwwing your wibido tonight!"

Flamebird
03-23-2007, 08:45 PM
Lying about one's age IS against Myspace TOS...

*runs off to write an e-mail!* :evilsmile

~Bev

It's the simple little things in life that make you happy, isn't it Bev? :)

Flamebird
03-23-2007, 08:50 PM
Let's just shorten that to dungbeetle, eh?

Is that anything like a "Devil-Bug"? :rolleyes:

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 08:51 PM
I'll have you know the dungbeetle is a useful and noble beast !

He's not scary enough to call a funnelweb.

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 08:52 PM
Didn't the ointment clear it* Ohhh..." etchings. "

Only rash I have is a rash of deadbeat publishers.

Cam63
03-23-2007, 08:56 PM
Or watch more of The View (http://abc.go.com/daytime/theview/)

"My name is Bawbwa Wawa. Wosie and I will be kiwwing your wibido tonight!"

I wahve it when she talks dirty.

wishlish
03-23-2007, 09:14 PM
It's much more fun to vent at Rick. And he deserves it.

How many Rick's does it take to change a lightbulb?

Moot question. He never finishes anything. Unless he can con someone into doing it, then stiff them on the quarter he promised.

Rick paid for a lightbulb?

Rick NEVER pays for anything.

(Although there is the First Paradox of Olney: Rick has a computer and internet access. Yet Rick never pays for anything. How did that happen?)

NatGertler
03-23-2007, 09:14 PM
Just so Rick knows:
Anyone having to defend himself against one of Rick's supposed NDA-related suits (number known filed to date: zero) will have no problem finding creators to testify that at times other publishers have failed to pay them... making it clear that this is not an unknown technique in the field, that it was known to publishers before Chuck Dixon said anything (even if some of us choose not to take advantage of it), and thus that it doesn't qualify in any way as a "trade secret".
Or do ya think he keeps quoting the wikipedia description of NDAs without bothering to click on the "trade secret" link and find out what that term actually means....

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 09:17 PM
Rick paid for a lightbulb?

Rick NEVER pays for anything.

(Although there is the First Paradox of Olney: Rick has a computer and internet access. Yet Rick never pays for anything. How did that happen?)

Maybe he played the lottery one time and won a grand

Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 09:28 PM
Rick paid for a lightbulb?

Rick NEVER pays for anything.

(Although there is the First Paradox of Olney: Rick has a computer and internet access. Yet Rick never pays for anything. How did that happen?)

His wife pays for it all.

CutterMike
03-23-2007, 09:30 PM
You asserting that message board "lawyers" on CBR are reputable sources of opinion where legal non-disclosure agreements are concerned is laughable. The terms and agreement structure of TightLip Entertainment's NDA clearly defines and outlines confidential materials or knowledge the parties wish to share with one another for certain purposes, but wish to restrict from generalized use. In other words, it is a contract through which the parties agree not to disclose information covered by the agreement. An NDA creates a confidential relationship between the parties to protect any type of trade secret.

(snippage)

Not getting off the topic of the NDA: NDAs are commonly signed when two companies or individuals are considering doing business together and need to understand the processes used in one another's businesses solely for the purpose of evaluating the potential business relationship. NDAs can be "mutual", meaning both parties are restricted in their use of the materials provided, or they can onlyrestrict a single party.

It is also possible for an employee to sign an NDA or NDA-like agreement with a company at the time of hiring, in fact some employment agreements will include a clause restricting "confidential information" in general. <<

... but, of course, Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement) IS a definitive source of legal advice.

On the other hand (being psychically ambidextrous), reading the (bare) half of the entry that he didn't appropriate, we find the following:

"Modern NDAs will typically include a laundry-list of types of items which are covered, including unpublished patent applications, know-how, schema, financial information, verbal representations, business strategies, etc(...)"

Presuming that his crack(ed) leaggle teams are using Wikipedia as their text, then they must be assuming that the employer's consistent refusal to pay his employees falls under the heading of "know-how, schema, financial information, verbal representations, (or) business strategies" and is, therefore, covered by the NDA.

...Hmmm-m-m-m... I'm not sure that failure to pay, and lying about it is a legally-supported business strategy...

Cam63
03-23-2007, 09:30 PM
She must be something, that Mrs. Olney.

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 09:33 PM
She must be something, that Mrs. Olney.

What...like GONE?

Flamebird
03-23-2007, 09:35 PM
Rick paid for a lightbulb?

Rick NEVER pays for anything.

(Although there is the First Paradox of Olney: Rick has a computer and internet access. Yet Rick never pays for anything. How did that happen?)

I thought he just snuck into the library after closing.

Cam63
03-23-2007, 09:39 PM
I thought he just snuck into the library after closing.

Slivering would be more his style.

DaveRothe
03-23-2007, 09:40 PM
I thought he just snuck into the library after closing.

He's probably just stealing from the neighbor's cable modem.

CutterMike
03-23-2007, 09:46 PM
It was the whole "eating shit" thing I was going for

Actually, I don't believe that they eat it. My understanding is that they lay their eggs in it and the heat of decomposition incubates them.

...And frankly, the image of RO "laying his eggs" in a turd ball is one that is going to shortly require large doses of Scotch to wipe from my mind...

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 09:49 PM
Actually, I don't believe that they eat it. My understanding is that they lay their eggs in it and the heat of decomposition incubates them.

...And frankly, the image of RO "laying his eggs" in a turd ball is one that is going to shortly require large doses of Scotch to wipe from my mind...

I knew someone would feel it necessary to poop on my joke.

Have a drink on me

CutterMike
03-23-2007, 09:54 PM
I knew someone would feel it necessary to poop on my joke.

Have a drink on me

Nothing personal, but I think I'd rather have it on the rocks.

Papergirl
03-23-2007, 09:54 PM
It's the simple little things in life that make you happy, isn't it Bev? :)
Yes. :p

She must be something, that Mrs. Olney.

What...like GONE?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nice one!

~Bev

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 09:58 PM
Nothing personal, but I think I'd rather have it on the rocks.

Not even I will touch that one

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 09:59 PM
Yes. :p



HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nice one!

~Bev

Glad I could be there for you:p

KevinTBrown
03-23-2007, 10:00 PM
It's the simple little things in life that make you happy, isn't it Bev? :)

Yes. :p

~Bev

Insert a Matt penis joke here.


:D

Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:00 PM
Nothing personal, but I think I'd rather have it on the rocks.

He does look absorbant, doesn't he ?

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 10:02 PM
He does look absorbant, doesn't he ?

'Hic'....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:06 PM
Non Aussie drinkers... Tsk !

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 10:26 PM
Non Aussie drinkers... Tsk !

I've never drank an Aussie. What do they taste like?

Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:34 PM
Like beer and salt, I imagine.

Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 10:36 PM
Like beer and salt, I imagine.

I knew that was coming. Must be getting psychic powers.

Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:45 PM
The non drinkers are probably better for you.

Papergirl
03-23-2007, 11:05 PM
The non drinkers are probably better for you.
There IS such a thing as a non-drinking Aussie?

*faints from the shock of it all*

~Bev

Cam63
03-23-2007, 11:33 PM
My younger brother is a teetotaller.

I disowned him years ago.

Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 11:51 PM
lol. I was bored. :p


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/52.jpg

MacQuarrie
03-24-2007, 12:16 AM
1. How far can a drill intructor's boot insert inself into a recruit's arse.

Answer: Depends on the size of the DI's foot.

and 2. How long does one keep his/her sense of honour if they ever served in the USMC ?

Answer: Beyond death.

There are occasional aberrations to that second one; I believe Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine at one time. But then he had more honor than Olney.

MacQuarrie
03-24-2007, 12:19 AM
Maybe it'll be "Devil Bug"'s new name.

:p

"Tightlip Entertainment bring you DUNG BEETLE!"

Dung Beetle is a character published by False Idol Studios, publishers of the brilliantly funny "7 Guys of Justice". He costarred with The Human Poop in a special one-shot issue a few years ago.

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 12:32 AM
Unscrewed saves one soul.

From a message I got on Myspace:



RE: Unscrewed! Letter to Comic Book Professionals!

I was contacted by this Olney just days before I heard of his unprofessionalism, thanks for the heads up.
He wanted to "commission" art for his comics, and he offered to fly me out to his show. I already suspected something was odd here, did some research on my own, too.

So I old him to piss off!!

Thanks again.

SEAN


Woooooooo!

Reverend Smooth
03-24-2007, 12:49 AM
A-fucking-men.

DaveRothe
03-24-2007, 01:36 AM
Unscrewed saves one soul.

From a message I got on Myspace:



Woooooooo!

We saved a life! Woohoo!!!

TheWraith
03-24-2007, 01:45 AM
How do I get my name on the Unscrewed signatories list?

DaveRothe
03-24-2007, 01:48 AM
How do I get my name on the Unscrewed signatories list?

PM Tom Stillwell or Danny Donavan, Frank.

TheWraith
03-24-2007, 01:50 AM
Or maybe they'll see my request here ;)

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 01:54 AM
My younger brother is a teetotaller.

I disowned him years ago.

But you still love him, right?

TheWraith
03-24-2007, 01:59 AM
Only if he starts drinking.

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 02:00 AM
Or maybe they'll see my request here ;)

I dunno, Frank. How do we know you're not one of Olney's sockpuppets?

[Just kidding, Frank. Hee, heeeeeee]:D

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 02:04 AM
Or maybe they'll see my request here ;)


Frank, e-mail your request to:

letter@unscrewedcomic.com (letter@unscrewedcomic.com)

it'll get added.

Thanks!

TheWraith
03-24-2007, 02:38 AM
But that's extra work for me :D :p

TheWraith
03-24-2007, 02:40 AM
I dunno, Frank. How do we know you're not one of Olney's sockpuppets?

[Just kidding, Frank. Hee, heeeeeee]:D

I paid you, didn't I? I'm already way ahead of the Olney game :D

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 02:43 AM
I paid you, didn't I? I'm already way ahead of the Olney game :D

Hell, the Wraith pen you sent was more than I got from Rickola.;)

Or was that a Trinity pen? My memory is Swiss cheese.

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 02:52 AM
But that's extra work for me :D :p

Not really! Just send your name and your comic project and Mac will copy and paste it onto the letter. lol.

Paul Smith
03-24-2007, 03:33 AM
I also think it would be more effective coming from one of the bigger names (Gail Simone, Chuck Dixon, Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, James Owen, Paul Smith, or Scott Shaw, to name a few examples) involved in this effort. That way, this doesn't look like just me hating on Olney.



Tony,

Just so's ya knows, I tried to reply to the Yahoo thing but, given my night owl ways and glacially slow typing skills, by the time I composed my response and got there, the regulars were asking us to end the SPAM.

Another time, another place ...

That said, I miss Rick and his attempts at humor such as this from the yahoo group: "NDA's are something I believe (using Mr. Isabella's examples: ) yourself, "Gail Simone", Chuck Dixon, Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, James Owen, Paul Smith, and Scott Shaw, painfully need more education on."

At a glance, I'd say that represents over 100 years of combined experience versus Rick's two minutes of plagiarizing Wikipedia. I alone have more than 30 years of experience, having signed NDAs in the worlds of: Advertising, Newspapers, Aerospace, Film, TV and Comics. I know what they cover and the penalties they contain. Up to, and including, my execution for high treason.

NDAs do not include an "I get to rip you off while you sit mute and smile" clause. Being a lying deadbeat is not a trade secret.

the4thpip
03-24-2007, 03:36 AM
...And frankly, the image of RO "laying his eggs" in a turd ball is one that is going to shortly require large doses of Scotch to wipe from my mind...

Just pretend he's farting a piñata.

the4thpip
03-24-2007, 03:39 AM
Being a lying deadbeat is not a trade secret.

But that was the extend of Dinkle's business plan! :(

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal
03-24-2007, 03:50 AM
I'm feeling a bit cranky today, having received some medical news that wasn't as positive as my daughter's. So, if I pissed off anyone other than Rick Olney, they have my apologies.

I'm taking the rest of tonight off, speaking at a college and having dinner with Bob Ingersoll tomorrow, and trying to cross a whole bunch of little things from my "to do" list on Sunday.

But, before I call it a night, I did make one more post to Super Hero News:



This is the kind of thing I'll be posting in the future, only mentioning Olney's name when necessary. The facts and Olney's own remarks make the case against him far better than anything else.

Thanks to Sarah and anyone else who posted - I haven't checked my e-mail yet, so I don't know who else did post - but I think directing people to the facts is more effective than debating someone as clueless, delusional, and
vile as Olney.

I'm still hoping to see many of you at Comic-Con International, but it's not a certainty that I will be able to attend.

And, of course, there's always Mid-Ohio-Con. I hear the Program Director of that show is a swell guy.

Much love to all, even those of you who haven't sent me nude snapshots of yourselves. Hey, Tom, I might have some more auction items for you. :)

Tony

How do I sign this thing?

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal
03-24-2007, 03:52 AM
Feel better Tony!

If there's anything I cna do just hollar.

Oh and ditto. Feel better soon, Tony.

TheWraith
03-24-2007, 04:00 AM
Not really! Just send your name and your comic project and Mac will copy and paste it onto the letter. lol.

Yeah, but that means I have to actually send an email...extra work :D :p I ended up doing it though.

It was a Trinity pen, Jeff. I had a tonne of those suckers made up ;)

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 04:19 AM
At a glance, I'd say that represents over 100 years of combined experience versus Rick's two minutes of plagiarizing Wikipedia. I alone have more than 30 years of experience, having signed NDAs in the worlds of: Advertising, Newspapers, Aerospace, Film, TV and Comics. I know what they cover and the penalties they contain. Up to, and including, my execution for high treason.

NDAs do not include an "I get to rip you off while you sit mute and smile" clause. Being a lying deadbeat is not a trade secret.

Exactly. It's what I've tried to tell him forever. I've signed NDAs from a number of places. I still have a copy of mine from Platinum Studios and none of what he thinks is in there, is in there.

You don't refuse to pay people that call you on your shit. You pay people to KEEP them from calling you on your shit. :p

How do I sign this thing?

letter@unscrewedcomic.com (letter@unscrewedcomic.com)

Gail Simone
03-24-2007, 04:27 AM
Tony,

Just so's ya knows, I tried to reply to the Yahoo thing but, given my night owl ways and glacially slow typing skills, by the time I composed my response and got there, the regulars were asking us to end the SPAM.

Another time, another place ...

That said, I miss Rick and his attempts at humor such as this from the yahoo group: "NDA's are something I believe (using Mr. Isabella's examples: ) yourself, "Gail Simone", Chuck Dixon, Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, James Owen, Paul Smith, and Scott Shaw, painfully need more education on."

At a glance, I'd say that represents over 100 years of combined experience versus Rick's two minutes of plagiarizing Wikipedia. I alone have more than 30 years of experience, having signed NDAs in the worlds of: Advertising, Newspapers, Aerospace, Film, TV and Comics. I know what they cover and the penalties they contain. Up to, and including, my execution for high treason.

NDAs do not include an "I get to rip you off while you sit mute and smile" clause. Being a lying deadbeat is not a trade secret.



I've decided not to beat you up.

The funny thing is, I've signed some NDA's for real companies with real lawyers, and they all still managed to keep their word and integrity AND pay me on time as promised.

I guess Rick's NDA's somehow preclude being a person of honor and integrity.

Gail

Paul Smith
03-24-2007, 04:47 AM
I've decided not to beat you up.

but ... you promised. :(

Paul Smith
03-24-2007, 04:55 AM
You pay people to KEEP them from calling you on your shit. :p


Why do I have this vision of Olney, firmly clenching someone's turd, screaming, "Hello ... hello ... Why doesn't this damn thing work?"

Gail Simone
03-24-2007, 05:04 AM
Why do I have this vision of Olney, firmly clenching someone's turd, screaming, "Hello ... hello ... Why doesn't this damn thing work?"

Remember when you were dignified?

KISS THAT GOODBYE.

:)

Gail

TonyIsabella
03-24-2007, 05:40 AM
That said, I miss Rick and his attempts at humor such as this from the yahoo group: "NDA's are something I believe (using Mr. Isabella's examples: ) yourself, "Gail Simone", Chuck Dixon, Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, James Owen, Paul Smith, and Scott Shaw, painfully need more education on."

At a glance, I'd say that represents over 100 years of combined experience versus Rick's two minutes of plagiarizing Wikipedia. I alone have more than 30 years of experience, having signed NDAs in the worlds of: Advertising, Newspapers, Aerospace, Film, TV and Comics. I know what they cover and the penalties they contain. Up to, and including, my execution for high treason.

NDAs do not include an "I get to rip you off while you sit mute and smile" clause. Being a lying deadbeat is not a trade secret.

I've been working in comics since I took a staff job at Marvel in 1972. Kurt wasn't far behind me, though, since he started when he was 8, he's younger and much cuter than I am. So I'm thinking we're closer to 200 years of combined experience.

Especially if you include "Gail," who is actually a 90-year-old man who ruled panel borders for Famous Funnies #1. :)

I'm off to my college gig. I'm bringing along Bob Ingersoll and Thom Zahler to fend off the co-eds. At my age, I break easily.

Tony

NatGertler
03-24-2007, 06:51 AM
Especially if you include "Gail," who is actually a 90-year-old man who ruled panel borders for Famous Funnies #1.Ah, so that's the reason for being "Gail Simone" - she's trying to hide that she's the notorious Baldo Smudge!

It also explains the "Gail Simone RULES!" motto.

singoalla
03-24-2007, 07:53 AM
Just pretend he's farting a piñata.

That's gotta chafe! :eek:

Matt Doc Martin
03-24-2007, 08:11 AM
SO that person was ripped off by Olney. We will see what info they want to release, but they may sign the letter.

Same story, same actions we all know OLney loves to take. And another talented person screwed over.

TomStillwell
03-24-2007, 08:29 AM
Tony,

Just so's ya knows, I tried to reply to the Yahoo thing but, given my night owl ways and glacially slow typing skills, by the time I composed my response and got there, the regulars were asking us to end the SPAM.

Another time, another place ...

That said, I miss Rick and his attempts at humor such as this from the yahoo group: "NDA's are something I believe (using Mr. Isabella's examples: ) yourself, "Gail Simone", Chuck Dixon, Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, James Owen, Paul Smith, and Scott Shaw, painfully need more education on."

At a glance, I'd say that represents over 100 years of combined experience versus Rick's two minutes of plagiarizing Wikipedia. I alone have more than 30 years of experience, having signed NDAs in the worlds of: Advertising, Newspapers, Aerospace, Film, TV and Comics. I know what they cover and the penalties they contain. Up to, and including, my execution for high treason.

NDAs do not include an "I get to rip you off while you sit mute and smile" clause. Being a lying deadbeat is not a trade secret.

And just to make it extra clear for those who missed it back when this whole NDA business started...

I work for a law firm with over 200 lawyers who deal with every area of practice. One of them, a very experienced lawyer and friend of mine, has been following this thread and all of Olney's legal aping religiously. This is not an "internet lawyer" as Rick would claim or someone looking up stuff on wikipedia.

I got ahold of a TLE NDA months ago. I still have it somewhere in one of my PCs. I looked over the NDA...it's crap. Colleen Doran, with 25 years of freelancing under her belt and more than a few NDAs looked at it...it's crap. My lawyer friend actually laughed when he read it, as he does each time Olney tries to wave his microscopic legal dick. He got a real chuckle when Olney threatened to have me dragged into court for looking up public information.

So to you freelancers who still wonder if Rick has a leg to stand on...he doesn't. No teeth, no legs, no lawyers. Sue him into the stone age. Take up Mark Waid's generous offer. Rick is lucky he doesn't live in Illinois. I have friends who'd handle your cases for free they are so outraged at this actions.

rummblestrips
03-24-2007, 08:34 AM
Rick responded to my post over at the Yahoo site.
It began with this

Realizing that you're Canadian, I'd remind you people are innocent
until prove guilty. Your untrue and libelous assertions do not
constitute truth.

So.. because I'm Canadian... something, something... I stopped reading after that as I was sure it would give me a headache

Flamebird
03-24-2007, 08:35 AM
And just to make it extra clear for those who missed it back when this whole NDA business started...

I work for a law firm with over 200 lawyers who deal with every area of practice. One of them, a very experienced lawyer and friend of mine, has been following this thread and all of Olney's legal aping religiously. This is not an "internet lawyer" as Rick would claim or someone looking up stuff on wikipedia.

I got ahold of a TLE NDA months ago. I still have it somewhere in one of my PCs. I looked over the NDA...it's crap. Colleen Doran, with 25 years of freelancing under her belt and more than a few NDAs looked at it...it's crap. My lawyer friend actually laughed when he read it, as he does each time Olney tries to wave his microscopic legal dick. He got a real chuckle when Olney threatened to have me dragged into court for looking up public information.

So to you freelancers who still wonder if Rick has a leg to stand on...he doesn't. No teeth, no legs, no lawyers. Sue him into the stone age. Take up Mark Waid's generous offer. Rick is lucky he doesn't live in Illinois. I have friends who'd handle your cases for free they are so outraged at this actions.


Paging Dave Rothe!!! :evilsmile

Illinois/ free lawyer.

Sounds like a match made in heaven.


Meanwhile, Hey Tom,

Can't you just sue him for being an idiot and wasting oxygen, for us?

Or maybe all his threats and accusations about you?

Kozemp
03-24-2007, 08:42 AM
CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.

For whatever reason, Lying Fuck's constant claims of "the judgements against me are codswallop! My leaggle teams will reverse them on appeal and my enemies will be destroyed, pukee!" really bothered me.

So I went and checked on the possibility of this. E-mailed my lawyer cousin about it. Here's what he had to say on the subject:

"You cannot appeal from a default, or a default judgment precisely because you are in default. Procedurally it means that you were never before the lower court so you can't appeal to a higher court since you were never in the action (which is why you were in default). "

So. Fucking. Awesome.

Suck it, Lying Fuck.

JLK
Lawmaster Zero

Kozemp
03-24-2007, 08:48 AM
Hey, I just had a thought -

Maybe Lying Fuck's lawyer is Jack Thompson?

That might explain a few things - he seems to have as much grasp of the actual law as Lying Fuck does.

JLK
defender of freedom

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 08:52 AM
Rick responded to my post over at the Yahoo site.
It began with this



So.. because I'm Canadian... something, something... I stopped reading after that as I was sure it would give me a headache

So because you're a Canadian, you can't understand the complexities of an insane American?

Tegan
03-24-2007, 09:02 AM
Being a lying deadbeat is not a trade secret.

Perhaps his confusion arises because being a lying deadbeat is his only actual trade?

MacQuarrie
03-24-2007, 09:06 AM
So because you're a Canadian, you can't understand the complexities of an insane American?
No, it's a snide and ill-informed insinuation of his belief that Canadian law does not include the "innocent until proven guilty" provision, since their Constitution wasn't written by George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt and Miles Standish, the way ours was.

In other words, Olney is a mucking foron.

Gail Simone
03-24-2007, 09:07 AM
CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.

For whatever reason, Lying Fuck's constant claims of "the judgements against me are codswallop! My leaggle teams will reverse them on appeal and my enemies will be destroyed, pukee!" really bothered me.

So I went and checked on the possibility of this. E-mailed my lawyer cousin about it. Here's what he had to say on the subject:

"You cannot appeal from a default, or a default judgment precisely because you are in default. Procedurally it means that you were never before the lower court so you can't appeal to a higher court since you were never in the action (which is why you were in default). "

So. Fucking. Awesome.

Suck it, Lying Fuck.

JLK
Lawmaster Zero

I love your lawyer cousin.


I'm gonna send him a COOKIE!

Gail

the4thpip
03-24-2007, 09:23 AM
CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.

For whatever reason, Lying Fuck's constant claims of "the judgements against me are codswallop! My leaggle teams will reverse them on appeal and my enemies will be destroyed, pukee!" really bothered me.

So I went and checked on the possibility of this. E-mailed my lawyer cousin about it. Here's what he had to say on the subject:

"You cannot appeal from a default, or a default judgment precisely because you are in default. Procedurally it means that you were never before the lower court so you can't appeal to a higher court since you were never in the action (which is why you were in default). "

So. Fucking. Awesome.

Suck it, Lying Fuck.

JLK
Lawmaster Zero

http://www.ijkk.fi/boost/images/Thumbs%20Up%20Pic.gif

JTPencils
03-24-2007, 09:43 AM
Rick paid for a lightbulb?

Rick NEVER pays for anything.

(Although there is the First Paradox of Olney: Rick has a computer and internet access. Yet Rick never pays for anything. How did that happen?)

Some item's just seem to "fall off" the Radio Shack truck all the time.

Seriously though. I can remember one time driving through the local mall one day. It was near noon, and all the shops (except the Radio Shack, which is actually located on the back/outside of the mall itself, almost a separate store altogether), were open. Dark as a mother in law's heart were the windows... no one working inside. Yet, right next to the door, were that days delivery's. Including several computers fresh in their boxes. A less scrupulous person would have made off with some nice goodies that day. I can only surmise the only reason they were still there.. was that they had just recently been delivered, and no one had a chance yet to play "five finger discount".... or there were a slew of cameras on the drop off point... "just in case".

Sarah Beach
03-24-2007, 09:45 AM
Just to make sure the paramecium doesn't miss it ---

CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.

For whatever reason, Lying Fuck's constant claims of "the judgements against me are codswallop! My leaggle teams will reverse them on appeal and my enemies will be destroyed, pukee!" really bothered me.

So I went and checked on the possibility of this. E-mailed my lawyer cousin about it. Here's what he had to say on the subject:

"You cannot appeal from a default, or a default judgment precisely because you are in default. Procedurally it means that you were never before the lower court so you can't appeal to a higher court since you were never in the action (which is why you were in default). "

JLK
Lawmaster Zero

Gail Simone
03-24-2007, 09:46 AM
Perhaps his confusion arises because being a lying deadbeat is his only actual trade?

Tegan raises an interesting point.

You have to WORK at being a deadbeat loser of Rick's caliber.

Gail

JTPencils
03-24-2007, 09:47 AM
There IS such a thing as a non-drinking Aussie?

*faints from the shock of it all*

~Bev

They're called "toddlers".

Draconomicon
03-24-2007, 09:49 AM
And just to make it extra clear for those who missed it back when this whole NDA business started...

I work for a law firm with over 200 lawyers who deal with every area of practice. One of them, a very experienced lawyer and friend of mine, has been following this thread and all of Olney's legal aping religiously. This is not an "internet lawyer" as Rick would claim or someone looking up stuff on wikipedia.

I got ahold of a TLE NDA months ago. I still have it somewhere in one of my PCs. I looked over the NDA...it's crap. Colleen Doran, with 25 years of freelancing under her belt and more than a few NDAs looked at it...it's crap. My lawyer friend actually laughed when he read it, as he does each time Olney tries to wave his microscopic legal dick. He got a real chuckle when Olney threatened to have me dragged into court for looking up public information.

So to you freelancers who still wonder if Rick has a leg to stand on...he doesn't. No teeth, no legs, no lawyers. Sue him into the stone age. Take up Mark Waid's generous offer. Rick is lucky he doesn't live in Illinois. I have friends who'd handle your cases for free they are so outraged at this actions.

CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.

For whatever reason, Lying Fuck's constant claims of "the judgements against me are codswallop! My leaggle teams will reverse them on appeal and my enemies will be destroyed, pukee!" really bothered me.

So I went and checked on the possibility of this. E-mailed my lawyer cousin about it. Here's what he had to say on the subject:

"You cannot appeal from a default, or a default judgment precisely because you are in default. Procedurally it means that you were never before the lower court so you can't appeal to a higher court since you were never in the action (which is why you were in default). "

So. Fucking. Awesome.

Suck it, Lying Fuck.

JLK
Lawmaster Zero

These two postings gave me a happy meal smile :D


Rick responded to my post over at the Yahoo site.
It began with this



So.. because I'm Canadian... something, something... I stopped reading after that as I was sure it would give me a headache
....I have no idea. I think with that he wants to say you are inferior to americans or somesuch... Id say its his usual bigoted shyte.

JTPencils
03-24-2007, 09:52 AM
CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.

For whatever reason, Lying Fuck's constant claims of "the judgements against me are codswallop! My leaggle teams will reverse them on appeal and my enemies will be destroyed, pukee!" really bothered me.

So I went and checked on the possibility of this. E-mailed my lawyer cousin about it. Here's what he had to say on the subject:

"You cannot appeal from a default, or a default judgment precisely because you are in default. Procedurally it means that you were never before the lower court so you can't appeal to a higher court since you were never in the action (which is why you were in default). "

So. Fucking. Awesome.

Suck it, Lying Fuck.

JLK
Lawmaster Zero

Well, in CT, it states that there is no appeal (other then exceptional circumstances) in Small Claims cases. "No shows" are NOT considered exceptional circumstances. So once he loses here... his only recourse is when its' domesticated to NY for collections. By then, they'll (the court) will want to know why he didn't bother to show in the first place. But it's still no defense, really.

TomStillwell
03-24-2007, 09:59 AM
CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.

For whatever reason, Lying Fuck's constant claims of "the judgements against me are codswallop! My leaggle teams will reverse them on appeal and my enemies will be destroyed, pukee!" really bothered me.

So I went and checked on the possibility of this. E-mailed my lawyer cousin about it. Here's what he had to say on the subject:

"You cannot appeal from a default, or a default judgment precisely because you are in default. Procedurally it means that you were never before the lower court so you can't appeal to a higher court since you were never in the action (which is why you were in default). "

So. Fucking. Awesome.

Suck it, Lying Fuck.

JLK
Lawmaster Zero

I posted something like this 100s of pages ago. Good news but old news.

Sarah Beach
03-24-2007, 10:00 AM
I posted something like this 100s of pages ago. Good news but old news.

And it's one of those wonderful things that bears repeating. And repeating. And repeating. Especially when it comes from yet another new direction.

:D

Blake Petit
03-24-2007, 10:13 AM
This page gives me warm fuzzies. :)

Sarah Beach
03-24-2007, 10:18 AM
Oh, good grief! I went over to SuperHeroNews just to see what all had been posted first hand (and I'm running late for my screenwriters' group - and we're doing one of my pieces!). I'm not going to comment right now (it'd take too much time), but for our record.... the paramecium's two posts in full. MATT - take note, he is, yes, formally claiming that Scott Reed perpetrated fraud on the court.

First of two posts from the brainless wonder--
Re: A polite yet important warning.
Oh! What a surprise! Another person from the infamous CBR hate group
with a message to save humanity from me!

Realizing that you're Canadian, I'd remind you people are innocent
until prove guilty. Your untrue and libelous assertions do not
constitute truth.

So, Joanne, just to EDUCATE you:
1. At some point in time, through my attorney, I will be releasing the
actual letter from the individual that contacted me from Skywalker
Ranch regarding the Ric Olie action figure matter. I would then
expect, as I'm sure the court will, that "Gail Simone" will bring
forth her source stating the contrary regarding the matter.


2. Where FREE COMIC BOOK DAY is concerned. I never stated that I was
the 'creator' of FCBD. What I have implied and stated since its
inception, is that ORCA began giving away TONS of free comic books and
that news of our having that agenda reached across this industry and
touched upon the minds of many, many retailers, as well as Diamond.
ORCA via the direction of its fans, supporters, and members was giving
away ALL kinds of comic books. Again, get your facts straight.

3. Stories at the unscrewed website are ficticious and nothing but
libelous physcobabble. The smattering of fact there is so small
regarding the truth that it hardly justifies you, Mr. Isabella or
anyone else from spamming this news egroup with your nonsense. I
believe it actually demonstrates your true motivation of hate. And, it
really does make Unscrewed look bad.


4. I DO HAVE a letter from St Judes Children's Hospital giving me
permissions to use their logos, materials, and likenesses to have had
a previous auction to benefit them. To date, I have gotten no contact
from them with concerns to the contrary. And, yes, I realize that this
topic of charity fraud (according to your sources) is a serious one.
Hence the reason that my attorney would handle any real concerns.
Again, a lie repeated over and over is not the truth. You spread lies.
And again, this matter will see a court of law in due process.

Regards,
Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment

And then this --
Re: The Olney-related messages
Mr. Melrose,

I couldn't agree with you more! Thank you for speaking out against
what has taken place here the last few days. Apologies also to Rik
Offenberger, who does and provides a tremendous servive with this list.

Mr. Isabella has stated that he represents individuals that have an
interest in people that I have supposidly wronged.

I have read people on the YABS message board thread say things like,
"It isn't libel if its true."

Well, those statements WILL have pertinence in a civil court. After
looking down that list (supplied by Mr. Isabella) I see only 4
individuals listed having a direct connection to my company's
publishing efforts. And those individuals each broke their signed
before a Notary Public non-disclosure agreement outlining the
obligatory details of what, when, and where they could divulge details
about their work-for-hire contractual arrangments with my company.
THAT is a matter for the civil court system. Everything else, stated
by everyone else, is libel hate driven babble. Don't think Mr.
Isabella stupid. He knew exactly what he was doing in posting those
messages meant to, in his words, "warn(ing) against an unscrupulous
individual".

On the good news side of this matter -- Several work-for-hire talents
that worked on the TALES of THE SPOOKY #1 book will be getting paid
the monies owed them. To their credit (and I wish I could list their
names, but I can't) they never broke their confidentiality agreements,
despite having TightLip Entertainment fall in arrears (financially and
communicationally) on its responsibilities to them each. For me, this
has always been about the contractual agreements on both sides...not
about the libel and hate that some have tried to bring to the
discussion. I've been libeled, threatened with bodily harm, stalked,
had my name cyber-squatted, my family members insulted publicly, along
with harrassment in the form of telephone calls, attacks against my
computer system, and followed around the Internet where messages much
as Mr. Isabella and his Unscrewed cronies assert here have been used
to defame and libel me. That's basically all illegal, so action is
being taken. One of the talents that filed against me in small claims
court used fraud in proving his case. Charges will be filed against
the individual upon successfuly overturning the legal decision.

Respectfully,
Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment

Like I said, I've got to run. Even though there's stuff to refute here. But you know what? I trust you all to hit the key points. PAPERGIRL, be sure we get copies of this for Unscrewed! please? He's claiming that the stuff on Unscrewed! (which again, much is drawn from his own postings) isn't true (I think he's talking about the Chronology & some of the news stories, not the copies of his own YABS posts).

What a bug! (See you all later! I'm looking forward to your disections!)

Blake Petit
03-24-2007, 10:21 AM
The level of delusion here is palpable.

I find it particularly amusing that he can't divulge the names of the people who are going to get paid

NatGertler
03-24-2007, 10:33 AM
Well, in Florida small claims, rather than going through the appellate system, you can apply for a new trial, apparently fairly easily.... but you gotta do it within 10 days.

Doesn't look like Rick met that deadline. What a surprise.

Ever more claims about things he's going to do. Still no examples of him doing such things. I wasn't sure the hat-to-cowboy ratio could grow any larger...

Art Grafunkel
03-24-2007, 10:43 AM
First of all: that's not Olney. Yes, it's posted in his name, but I'll bet my left... shit, make that BOTH nuts, that someone else is holding his typefinger (or any other appendage fit for pressing the tiny buttons on his keyboard) for him. It's too... readable. Too rational. ... or better make that: ;) "rational";) .

1. At some point in time, through my attorney, I will be releasing the
actual letter from the individual that contacted me from Skywalker
Ranch regarding the Ric Olie action figure matter. I would then
expect, as I'm sure the court will, that "Gail Simone" will bring
forth her source stating the contrary regarding the matter.

Some point in time. Sure. And is he going to scan the letter? With his legendary Scanner Of Doom?

Putz. :rolleyes:

DocAbsurd
03-24-2007, 11:06 AM
He's prolly got the legendary 'Skywalker Letter' (sounds like an entry on Snopes) stored in the same computer that has my emails but has mysteriously lost the ones from other creators. Gotta have one helluva UBS cable to reach from the dump to his house.

Once again, simply cuz it bears repeating:

I never signed an NDA.

Nor did Danny.

Nor did James.

Nor did Sara.

Nor did any of the original columnists on the MMC.

What's the excuse for stiffing us for payment for 3 years?

That ain't libel, Ironside; it's hard cold fact.

Shall I start posting that around?

Blake Petit
03-24-2007, 11:09 AM
He's prolly got the legendary 'Skywalker Letter' (sounds like an entry on Snopes) stored in the same computer that has my emails but has mysteriously lost the ones from other creators. Gotta have one helluva UBS cable to reach from the dump to his house.

Once again, simply cuz it bears repeating:

I never signed an NDA.

Nor did Danny.

Nor did James.

Nor did Sara.

Nor did any of the original columnists on the MMC.

What's the excuse for stiffing us for payment for 3 years?

That ain't libel, Ironside; it's hard cold fact.

Shall I start posting that around?

I think you absolutely should.

singoalla
03-24-2007, 11:14 AM
These two postings gave me a happy meal smile :D


.

I don't really understand this saying. I know Rick started it, but still... Happy Meals don't make me smile. They give me indigestion.

I pity his lawyer.

TCJohnson
03-24-2007, 11:16 AM
physcobabble

Ladies and gentlemen and Blake, I now have my new favorite word.

DaveRothe
03-24-2007, 11:16 AM
Quote:
First of two posts from the brainless wonder--
Re: A polite yet important warning.
Oh! What a surprise! Another person from the infamous CBR hate group
with a message to save humanity from me!

Realizing that you're Canadian, I'd remind you people are innocent
until prove guilty. Your untrue and libelous assertions do not
constitute truth.

So, Joanne, just to EDUCATE you:
1. At some point in time, through my attorney, I will be releasing the
actual letter from the individual that contacted me from Skywalker
Ranch regarding the Ric Olie action figure matter. I would then
expect, as I'm sure the court will, that "Gail Simone" will bring
forth her source stating the contrary regarding the matter.


2. Where FREE COMIC BOOK DAY is concerned. I never stated that I was
the 'creator' of FCBD. What I have implied and stated since its
inception, is that ORCA began giving away TONS of free comic books and
that news of our having that agenda reached across this industry and
touched upon the minds of many, many retailers, as well as Diamond.
ORCA via the direction of its fans, supporters, and members was giving
away ALL kinds of comic books. Again, get your facts straight.

3. Stories at the unscrewed website are ficticious and nothing but
libelous physcobabble. The smattering of fact there is so small
regarding the truth that it hardly justifies you, Mr. Isabella or
anyone else from spamming this news egroup with your nonsense. I
believe it actually demonstrates your true motivation of hate. And, it
really does make Unscrewed look bad.


4. I DO HAVE a letter from St Judes Children's Hospital giving me
permissions to use their logos, materials, and likenesses to have had
a previous auction to benefit them. To date, I have gotten no contact
from them with concerns to the contrary. And, yes, I realize that this
topic of charity fraud (according to your sources) is a serious one.
Hence the reason that my attorney would handle any real concerns.
Again, a lie repeated over and over is not the truth. You spread lies.
And again, this matter will see a court of law in due process.

Regards,
Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment

What the hell is physcobabble?:eek: :p

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 11:43 AM
What is pissing me off is that Rick is trying to get the last word in by responding to everyone and anyone who posts on the SHN list.

Kevin was not responding in support of you paramecium. He was saying what *I* said, although I don't know if mine got posted. IT IS NOT A DISCUSSION GROUP.

My press release is fine. Tony's message is fine. Your responses to it are not. Even Sarah and Joanne broke protocol of what the list is, but they did it knowingly and apologised for intruding.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR PERSECUTION COMPLEX DUMBASS!

DocAbsurd
03-24-2007, 11:47 AM
I have never contested that talents involved in the "Tales of The Spooky" book were not owed monies. I simply focused on the fact that many disregarded their non-disclosure agreement(s) after thinking their contract for payment with my company had been cast aside. If any confusion came of this it most likely was what was started on the libel thread at CBR in the YABS forum. Correctly to the point, a court of civil law will decide who is culpable and responsible on all sides of this matter. Just as the many numerous transgressions and acts against me will be weighed legally and acted upon.

Moby never contested he owed money. He contested the necessity of paying the creators. That's important.

Y'see, he's almost admitting here he held off on payments until someone got pissed off enough to start complaining publicly. That's the only reason he used NDAs in the first place:

He figured that would automatically give him an out when the inevitable requests for payments started piling up.

Again, it ain't libel if it's true. All this boils down to one allegation:

Rick Olney has not paid a single creator he contracted, dating back to 2003 (and most likely even further).

Now.

Unless he can bring forward someone who actually received payment for their TLE work or provide some canceled checks or completed contractual obligations, he's libeling himself by claiming we're being libelous. He actually is harming our professional reputations by claiming that we're lying about not being paid. Has he mentioned that aspect to his crack teams of lawyers?

I also liked this:

I also wanted to take this opportunity to thank you publicly for divulging the names of those composing this hate group publicly. This will information will help my attornies. Hopefully, now, you and your cronies will no longer spam this egroup.

Did I miss something? Have we been private about all this? Or could it be he's forgotten us already?

Dammit, Matt; you didn't spread word about the Dirty Dozen far enough.

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 11:51 AM
Mr. Melrose,

I couldn't agree with you more! Thank you for speaking out against
what has taken place here the last few days. Apologies also to Rik
Offenberger, who does and provides a tremendous servive with this list.


Dumbass.

"Everyone else banned me from their website. this is the only place my idiocy can servive. I'm a servivor you know. Not gonna give up... Oh Destiny's Child maybe you'll be at my convention, we're such kindred spirits..."

Matt Doc Martin
03-24-2007, 11:59 AM
CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.

For whatever reason, Lying Fuck's constant claims of "the judgements against me are codswallop! My leaggle teams will reverse them on appeal and my enemies will be destroyed, pukee!" really bothered me.

So I went and checked on the possibility of this. E-mailed my lawyer cousin about it. Here's what he had to say on the subject:

"You cannot appeal from a default, or a default judgment precisely because you are in default. Procedurally it means that you were never before the lower court so you can't appeal to a higher court since you were never in the action (which is why you were in default). "

So. Fucking. Awesome.

Suck it, Lying Fuck.

JLK
Lawmaster Zero

No matter how many times I see it, I love it even more.I wish Rick WOULD talk to a real lawyer.

Quote:
First of two posts from the brainless wonder--
Re: A polite yet important warning.
Oh! What a surprise! Another person from the infamous CBR hate group
with a message to save humanity from me!

Realizing that you're Canadian, I'd remind you people are innocent
until prove guilty. Your untrue and libelous assertions do not
constitute truth.

So, Joanne, just to EDUCATE you:
1. At some point in time, through my attorney, I will be releasing the
actual letter from the individual that contacted me from Skywalker
Ranch regarding the Ric Olie action figure matter. I would then
expect, as I'm sure the court will, that "Gail Simone" will bring
forth her source stating the contrary regarding the matter.


2. Where FREE COMIC BOOK DAY is concerned. I never stated that I was
the 'creator' of FCBD. What I have implied and stated since its
inception, is that ORCA began giving away TONS of free comic books and
that news of our having that agenda reached across this industry and
touched upon the minds of many, many retailers, as well as Diamond.
ORCA via the direction of its fans, supporters, and members was giving
away ALL kinds of comic books. Again, get your facts straight.

3. Stories at the unscrewed website are ficticious and nothing but
libelous physcobabble. The smattering of fact there is so small
regarding the truth that it hardly justifies you, Mr. Isabella or
anyone else from spamming this news egroup with your nonsense. I
believe it actually demonstrates your true motivation of hate. And, it
really does make Unscrewed look bad.


4. I DO HAVE a letter from St Judes Children's Hospital giving me
permissions to use their logos, materials, and likenesses to have had
a previous auction to benefit them. To date, I have gotten no contact
from them with concerns to the contrary. And, yes, I realize that this
topic of charity fraud (according to your sources) is a serious one.
Hence the reason that my attorney would handle any real concerns.
Again, a lie repeated over and over is not the truth. You spread lies.
And again, this matter will see a court of law in due process.

Regards,
Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment



Odd, even though he was warned about my actions, even though St Judes doesn't have a copy of teh mythical letter, even though I volunteered to apologize and leave the forums if he produced it, even though he ducked ST Judes own rep calling him...no one has seen the letter. Like all the checks he mailed out, I suppose.

Rick: Send me a copy of this letter. I will personally make sure St Judes and the NY AG get a copy, along with you getting a personal AND public apology. AND I will leave the boards hhere for 1 month.

this offer is open for 1 week. I will repeat it a few times.

JTPencils
03-24-2007, 12:18 PM
"So, Joanne, just to EDUCATE you:
1. At some point in time, through my attorney, I will be releasing the
actual letter from the individual that contacted me from Skywalker
Ranch regarding the Ric Olie action figure matter. I would then
expect, as I'm sure the court will, that "Gail Simone" will bring
forth her source stating the contrary regarding the matter."


Why is it I can already see that "letter"??

"Dear Mr Olney,

Enclosed please find the Ric Olie character figure that you've been hassling us about for the last 4 months. I'm not exactly sure why you've got such an attraction to this particular unimportant figure, but we found one in the warehouse, and I was commanded... er... told to mail one to you.

Everyone here at Skywalker would rather forget about this particular figure, we've found that the only reason retailers were accepting them, was because they were fun to chuck at the new employees stocking the shelves. Go figure!

Anyhow, you've got your stupid figure, now leave us the hell alone. Your constant whining and near impossible to figure out English, have made us all weary, and we'd rather you just go back to your hovel.

Thank you for your rather bizarre interest...

Unnamed"

Rick's thoughts? "They LOVE me... they really DO LOVE me... !"

Gail Simone
03-24-2007, 12:25 PM
Jesus Christ could that idiot use an editor and some English courses.

Gail

Stressfactor
03-24-2007, 12:37 PM
I cannot beli..... OK, Yes, I CAN believe that R.O. is saying some of these things but seriously..... How blasted dumb can one guy get? You all HAVE screen caps from his earlier blogs where he states FLAT OUT that he *presumes* the Ric Ollie character was a tribute to him. If he had EVER had a letter PROVING this then he would have said "They named this character after me, here's the proof, how cool is that?"

GLAH! You know, its one thing to lie -- its something else to not be able to keep your lies straight enough that you start lying about the lies.

Also, I noticed this as well.... NOW its not enough that people had to have signed an NDA -- NOW they had to have signed an NDA in FRONT OF A NOTARY PUBLIC?! Uhhhhh.... excuse me, but I only know of a handful of documents that HAVE to be signed before a notary. Methinks this may be another set-up for him to try to hide behind non-payment. "Oh, yes, you signed the NDA BUT you didn't sign it in front of a nortary public, ergo this is null and void and I can't pay you."

Give. Me. A. Break.

Papergirl
03-24-2007, 12:43 PM
CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.

For whatever reason, Lying Fuck's constant claims of "the judgements against me are codswallop! My leaggle teams will reverse them on appeal and my enemies will be destroyed, pukee!" really bothered me.

So I went and checked on the possibility of this. E-mailed my lawyer cousin about it. Here's what he had to say on the subject:

"You cannot appeal from a default, or a default judgment precisely because you are in default. Procedurally it means that you were never before the lower court so you can't appeal to a higher court since you were never in the action (which is why you were in default). "

So. Fucking. Awesome.

Suck it, Lying Fuck.

JLK
Lawmaster Zero
AAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Fucking AWESOME! I love you for that!

~Bev

DaveRothe
03-24-2007, 12:46 PM
Jesus Christ could that idiot use an editor and some English courses.

Gail

Amen Gail Amen!!! I don't know how much more physcobabbling I could servive! LMAO:D

Draconomicon
03-24-2007, 12:57 PM
He likes to use quotes from here (distorted and taken out of context of course), to *prove* how *innocent* he is.
Someone should assemble a dozen of his homophobic, sexist and racistic quotes and show them to the world.

rummblestrips
03-24-2007, 01:01 PM
all you'd have to do is go through this thread, I think everything he added here had some sort of slap against somebody.

Matt Doc Martin
03-24-2007, 01:03 PM
He likes to use quotes from here (distorted and taken out of context of course), to *prove* how *innocent* he is.
Someone should assemble a dozen of his homophobic, sexist and racistic quotes and show them to the world.

Look through my signature.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=4478122&posted=1#post4478122


Add to it. Please.

DaveRothe
03-24-2007, 01:09 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/DaveRothe/PhyscobabbleServiver.png

Papergirl
03-24-2007, 01:10 PM
PAPERGIRL, be sure we get copies of this for Unscrewed! please? He's claiming that the stuff on Unscrewed! (which again, much is drawn from his own postings) isn't true (I think he's talking about the Chronology & some of the news stories, not the copies of his own YABS posts).

Don't panic. Matt's been sending me pdfs. :)

~Bev

Sparvid
03-24-2007, 01:13 PM
I have read people on the YABS message board thread say things like,
"It isn't libel if its true."

Well, those statements WILL have pertinence in a civil court. After
looking down that list (supplied by Mr. Isabella) I see only 4
individuals listed having a direct connection to my company's
publishing efforts. And those individuals each broke their signed
before a Notary Public non-disclosure agreement outlining the
obligatory details of what, when, and where they could divulge details
about their work-for-hire contractual arrangments with my company.
THAT is a matter for the civil court system. Everything else, stated
by everyone else, is libel hate driven babble.

So... is he saying that, except for the times various people have said that they haven't been payed by Olney, every single thing said in this thread and elsewhere has been libel?

Comcman
03-24-2007, 01:29 PM
Well, in Florida small claims, rather than going through the appellate system, you can apply for a new trial, apparently fairly easily.... but you gotta do it within 10 days.

Doesn't look like Rick met that deadline. What a surprise.

Ever more claims about things he's going to do. Still no examples of him doing such things. I wasn't sure the hat-to-cowboy ratio could grow any larger...

And his admissions both that he knew of the case and that he willingly did not attend the hearing will remove any claims of "I didn't know." Courts do not like default judgments. They prefer that a case is heard on its merits. However, they also don't like being told that the defendant wasted the court's time because they didn't feel they needed to come.

His comments of Fraud are hilarious because, I assume - I was not there, Scott would have presented the contract, proof that he did the work and proof of any additional expenses. With no Defendant, judgment would be entered in favor of the Plaintiff. It is not the court's duty to question the evidence. That is the Defense's job. One that he thought he didn't need to show up for.

previosly stated by the Physcobabbler
"So, Joanne, just to EDUCATE you:
1. At some point in time, through my attorney, I will be releasing the
actual letter from the individual that contacted me from Skywalker
Ranch regarding the Ric Olie action figure matter. I would then
expect, as I'm sure the court will, that "Gail Simone" will bring
forth her source stating the contrary regarding the matter."


This shows his narcissisum. With all of the accusations against him of not paying creators and other unethical behavior, what does he view as the #1 thing he needs to defend? His ego.

I remember him posting 2 emails in his defense earlier. One was proof that he paid someone (turned out to be paying someone back for a table at a cancelled con) and the email from Dennis regarding the smell in the car and supposed proof that it was not his.

So let's see. Rick has stated that Gail's, sorry "Gail"'s career is going to come to an end because of her lies. And those lies that he has proof of? He did not smell and an action figure was named after him. He doesn't seem to mind that everyone is calling him a deadbeat and even now admits that he has been very slow in paying. Yet that is not breach of contract to him although doing the work and asking for payment is breach.

the4thpip
03-24-2007, 01:35 PM
You noticed that he's no longer talking of his "lawyers" but just one "lawyer" now?


You know what that means, right?





He lost a sock while doing laundry.






No no wait, I doubt Rick ever does laundry.



So.


He lost the sock he uses when masturbating in one of the fleshy folds of his obese, unwashed excuse for a body.


Enjoy your dinner, y'all! My job here is done.

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 01:42 PM
I did a public service announcement for Unscrewed. :p

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1j8my_unscrewed-a-place-for-creators

my first and last "podcast" I believe.

TOO MANY RESHOOTS!

*sigh* I kept going "off script" too. I had this whole idea but it sort of fell apart once I started doing it. :p

JTPencils
03-24-2007, 02:14 PM
I did a public service announcement for Unscrewed. :p

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1j8my_unscrewed-a-place-for-creators

my first and last "podcast" I believe.

TOO MANY RESHOOTS!

*sigh* I kept going "off script" too. I had this whole idea but it sort of fell apart once I started doing it. :p

Huzzah Danny! Well done. Never easy to get in front of a camera and speaking up. But well done!

If I had a really sharp hat myself... it would be tipped off to ya!

(also was nice to see my art used in the piece as well!! Gracias! Ooops... damn... where's my green card, I've got to prove to Rick I'm allowed to work here in the country... oh wait.. I was born here!)

Draconomicon
03-24-2007, 02:15 PM
I think you people might get a chuckle out of this.
I just found it on Newsarama

(Some of you might know that Pat Lee isnt very liked in comic fandom right now, and the announcement that he would draw an issue of Buffy the Vampire slayer brought forth this funny posting)
Ugh, Pat Lee? Great, now I'm going to have a gap in my collection. Why not have Rick Olney write an arc too. Come on, Joss! I love ya, but come on.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=106241

Lmao, Rick Olney became pretty much the synonym for "Hated", it seems, lmao

Darediva
03-24-2007, 02:33 PM
I did a public service announcement for Unscrewed. :p

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1j8my_unscrewed-a-place-for-creators

my first and last "podcast" I believe.

TOO MANY RESHOOTS!

*sigh* I kept going "off script" too. I had this whole idea but it sort of fell apart once I started doing it. :p

You are to be commended for taking that on. I didn't recognize you without the hat! ;)

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal
03-24-2007, 02:34 PM
Exactly. It's what I've tried to tell him forever. I've signed NDAs from a number of places. I still have a copy of mine from Platinum Studios and none of what he thinks is in there, is in there.

You don't refuse to pay people that call you on your shit. You pay people to KEEP them from calling you on your shit. :p



letter@unscrewedcomic.com (letter@unscrewedcomic.com)

Thanks, Danny.

DaveRothe
03-24-2007, 02:53 PM
I think you people might get a chuckle out of this.
I just found it on Newsarama

(Some of you might know that Pat Lee isnt very liked in comic fandom right now, and the announcement that he would draw an issue of Buffy the Vampire slayer brought forth this funny posting)


http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=106241

Lmao, Rick Olney became pretty much the synonym for "Hated", it seems, lmao

And we'd like to keep it that way! Unless you actually do really wanna pay everyone Rick...



...didn't think so!!!

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 02:59 PM
No, it's a snide and ill-informed insinuation of his belief that Canadian law does not include the "innocent until proven guilty" provision, since their Constitution wasn't written by George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt and Miles Standish, the way ours was.

In other words, Olney is a mucking foron.

Actually, I got that. I was just making a joke.

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 03:05 PM
Huzzah Danny! Well done. Never easy to get in front of a camera and speaking up. But well done!

If I had a really sharp hat myself... it would be tipped off to ya!

(also was nice to see my art used in the piece as well!! Gracias! Ooops... damn... where's my green card, I've got to prove to Rick I'm allowed to work here in the country... oh wait.. I was born here!)

lol. Thanks! Mac made the ad I just mounted it to cardbord so it wouldn't be floppy and held it up to the camera.

Bugger, he fixed the typo by the time I printed it out. I was going to rib him about it!

You are to be commended for taking that on. I didn't recognize you without the hat! ;)

Thank you! ^_^ well the Jayne hat is purely for "cunning" needs. I had to be all nice and proper for this! A nice dress shirt and everything. Although I was only wearing shorts. So semi casual? :p

That's how the real news guys do it anyhow. Shirt, jacket, NO PANTS! :p

Kozemp
03-24-2007, 03:10 PM
I love your lawyer cousin.


I'm gonna send him a COOKIE!

Gail

Careful, his wife is very possessive, and to say I'm not her favorite person is putting it mildly.

JLK
no one's favorite

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 03:15 PM
Well, those statements WILL have pertinence in a civil court. After
looking down that list (supplied by Mr. Isabella) I see only 4
individuals listed having a direct connection to my company's
publishing efforts. And those individuals each broke their signed
before a Notary Public non-disclosure agreement outlining the
obligatory details of what, when, and where they could divulge details
about their work-for-hire contractual arrangments with my company.

SO! Rick finally gets around to claiming that I have broken my NDA. At least in a weasely, indirect way. I am certainly on that list, and I certainly was connected to TLE. This is great motivation for me to yank the hard drive from the old computer and look through ALL the e-mails Rick and I shared. That might be fun. And it might be revealing. Hmmmm....

DaveRothe
03-24-2007, 03:21 PM
SO! Rick finally gets around to claiming that I have broken my NDA. At least in a weasely, indirect way. I am certainly on that list, and I certainly was connected to TLE. This is great motivation for me to yank the hard drive from the old computer and look through ALL the e-mails Rick and I shared. That might be fun. And it might be revealing. Hmmmm....

Please God no Jeff! Seeing him in the Thing T-shirt was bad enough but when you said "revealing" I just soiled myself.:eek:

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 03:44 PM
Well, those statements WILL have pertinence in a civil court. After
looking down that list (supplied by Mr. Isabella) I see only 4
individuals listed having a direct connection to my company's
publishing efforts. And those individuals each broke their signed
before a Notary Public non-disclosure agreement outlining the
obligatory details of what, when, and where they could divulge details
about their work-for-hire contractual arrangments with my company.

SO! Rick finally gets around to claiming that I have broken my NDA. At least in a weasely, indirect way. I am certainly on that list, and I certainly was connected to TLE. This is great motivation for me to yank the hard drive from the old computer and look through ALL the e-mails Rick and I shared. That might be fun. And it might be revealing. Hmmmm....

Add counting to stuff Rick can't do as well. 4?

Let's run down the list huh?

1. Danny Donovan
2. Dave Rothe
3. Scott Reed
4. Jim Taylor
5. Blake M. Petit
6. Jeff Austin
7. Lance Boucher
8. Martin R. Oakley
9. Timothy J Tobolski
10.Alice Woodside

That's 10.

While Alice might not be involved in his "publishing business" she was effected by his wild ideas and no follow through. I could put Ritchey on that list too if I wanted, after all Rick did campaign hard for Green Lama.

Sooooooo, far more than 4 it seems.

:p

Sarah Beach
03-24-2007, 03:49 PM
Ta da! Back from my group (we went out to lunch afterward, as we usually do). Got good notes from them - on a story I'm totally revamping from an earlier version. I needed the feed back. But it got me all energized in a good way.

So, now back to our regularly scheduled subject:

From the Guy who does the real spamming of the SuperHeroNews list--
1. At some point in time, through my attorney, I will be releasing the
actual letter from the individual that contacted me from Skywalker
Ranch regarding the Ric Olie action figure matter. I would then
expect, as I'm sure the court will, that "Gail Simone" will bring
forth her source stating the contrary regarding the matter.

"At some point, through my attorney"... wow. You know, he's keeping this mighty secret, considering that it's a non-legal issue. "The individual that contacted me from Skywalker Ranch". Ooooooooo! Real impressive title there. But I think for once, he's trying to stick to the facts, and that's all it was. Yet this somehow trumps "Person at LucasFilm who was involved in the character creation" (ie, Gail's source of information).

He keeps wanting everyone to tell everyone else's name, but he's not going to reveal even the NAME of his lawyer. Because note: "that 'Gail Simone' will bring forth". You know, she gave us an indication of the source's status in the company. There's no reason she has to put the person's name onto the internet in this matter, just to satisfy the paramecium's excessive curiousity. :p

Again from the Intellect Deficient Specimen--
3. Stories at the unscrewed website are ficticious and nothing but
libelous physcobabble. The smattering of fact there is so small
regarding the truth that it hardly justifies you, Mr. Isabella or
anyone else from spamming this news egroup with your nonsense. I
believe it actually demonstrates your true motivation of hate. And, it
really does make Unscrewed look bad.

This is silly. Both I and Joanne state very clearly that we were motivated by our senses of justice and fair play. And seeing how we had no need to rant and foam at the mouth, the accusation of a "true motivation of hate" (at least the way he means it) is about as vacuous as you can get.

On top of that, his constant repetition that the material on Unscrewed is "ficticious and nothing but libelous physcobabble" (okay, I had to repeat the misspelling because it's so precious) doesn't make it so in fact. He does keep trying to make it that way. As if he had magical powers, and saying the stuff is not true over and over will somehow make it so.

And that backhanded concern for Unscrewed! .... awwww. "Does make Unscrewed look bad" -- as if he really wants anything other than that. How transparent can you get? Transparent in the sense of "You can't hide your real motivation from us, paramecium", not the "We have nothing to hide" sense I used when I spoke of our transparency at Unscrewed!

More from the critter--
On the good news side of this matter -- Several work-for-hire talents
that worked on the TALES of THE SPOOKY #1 book will be getting paid
the monies owed them.

Wow! Someone will get paid! Eventually.... maybe.... someday......

Again from the pond scum---
To their credit (and I wish I could list their names, but I can't) they never broke their confidentiality agreements, despite having TightLip Entertainment fall in arrears (financially and communicationally) on its responsibilities to them each.

I'm not sure why he can't reveal the names, particularly if it is to their credit. Because, it's not like he has anyone overseeing him at TLE. He's the boss, isn't he? He's the one "with the right" to reveal names.

And "fall in arrears (financially and communicationally)" --- what a cute, but pathetic try at making it seem like no big thing. Three years ain't "fallen in arrears", doofus, it's breach of contract. The same with three month, or three weeks. Stop trying to be pompous, you can't pull it off (in case you missed it the first time I said that).

Silly sayings from the bottom of the pit---
For me, this has always been about the contractual agreements on both sides...not about the libel and hate that some have tried to bring to the
discussion.

BULL SHIT!!!!

If "this" (ie, his reacting to everything) was really about the contractual agreements, he'd just have taken care of it (paid people, or made settlements and releases) long ago.

It is ALWAYS about what he calls "the libel and hate" -- which he perceives everywhere anyone criticises him in the slightest. He always shows up promptly in a new venue "to correct lies and misrepresentations of the truth". Ha! And when people get tired of his rantings, they all HATE HIM! (Probably true, in the sense of being bored to death by him.)

More blather from Blatherhead--
I've been libeled, threatened with bodily harm, stalked,
had my name cyber-squatted, my family members insulted publicly, along
with harrassment in the form of telephone calls, attacks against my
computer system, and followed around the Internet where messages much
as Mr. Isabella and his Unscrewed cronies assert here have been used
to defame and libel me. That's basically all illegal, so action is
being taken. One of the talents that filed against me in small claims
court used fraud in proving his case. Charges will be filed against
the individual upon successfuly overturning the legal decision.

(1) "Libeled" -- not libel if it's true. Prove it is untrue, twerp. Ball's in your "court" on that.

(2) "Threatened with bodily harm" -- Hmmm. Seems I've seen a few of those from you, insect. Quite a few people would feel a punch in your nose to be entirely justified. But you try to impress some judge about that, and we'll return with the "You posted the 'iKill' poster." And the threats you made.

(3) "Harrassment in the form of telephone calls" -- Gosh, people wish to communicate with you about legal matters, and so they call you. This is "harrassment"? Well, I suppose it is, if that means that you don't want to talk to anyone about such pesky matters as your responsibilities!

(4) "Attacks against my computer system" -- Why would we bother? It is far more probable that you are the world worst person at "safe computing" and you picked up a cyber-virus all by yourself in you obsessive internet surfing. I can't think of what else you might mean.

(5) "Followed around the internet" -- well, what do you know! ONE TRUE ASSERTION IN THE BUNCH! Yes, this is being done. Because we are zealous crusaders desiring to prevent you from ever harming another talented person the way you've harmed some of these folk! You don't like that? Tough toenails, cookie. Try reforming yourself, and it might stop happening. Just a suggestion there. I don't think you are capable of following it, or that you even want to.

(6) "It's illegal". Ummmm. Nope. Don't think so. We are telling the truth about your actions, and expressing our personal opinions of those actions. All perfectly legal uses of our FREEDOM OF SPEECH - you know, that great American virtue.

Oh, and "innocent until proven guilty"?? Then why did you not even bother to attempt to prove it in the civil cases filed against you, doofus? You can't claim the other party perpetrated fraud, when you don't even bother to prove your innocence in the proper place for such actions.

You, paramecium, are an idiot of the first order.

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 04:05 PM
youtube picks the worst still out of the video to use. >_<

Yes, I've posted my little video warning on Myspace, YouTube, and DailyMotion.

Millions of people now know to beware of Rick

rummblestrips
03-24-2007, 04:24 PM
Uh oh, that means Rick is going to sue Youtube.
Watch out You tube
You're about to get on the list... pukeeee!!!!!

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 04:28 PM
Uh oh, that means Rick is going to sue Youtube.
Watch out You tube
You're about to get on the list... pukeeee!!!!!

He can't! Isn't the person that runs YouTube canadian? everyone knows they don't understand the concept of law! Thus our court system is useless against it!

:p

bwahahahahaha

Stupid, stupid, con creature. :p

Matt Doc Martin
03-24-2007, 04:50 PM
youtube picks the worst still out of the video to use. >_<

Yes, I've posted my little video warning on Myspace, YouTube, and DailyMotion.

Millions of people now know to beware of Rick

where is the youtube link?

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 04:58 PM
where is the youtube link?

Here's the Youtube one.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=duM43dMDPPw

and the daily motion one.

http://www.dailymotion.com/dannydonovan/video/x1j8my_unscrewed-a-place-for-creators

And if you want to add it to a myspace blog you can do so here!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2017321407

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 05:11 PM
So let's see. Rick has stated that Gail's, sorry "Gail"'s career is going to come to an end because of her lies. And those lies that he has proof of? He did not smell and an action figure was named after him. He doesn't seem to mind that everyone is calling him a deadbeat and even now admits that he has been very slow in paying. Yet that is not breach of contract to him although doing the work and asking for payment is breach.




And he admits he need a lawyer's permission to write a check. What the hell kind of legal situation is that?

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 05:16 PM
Please God no Jeff! Seeing him in the Thing T-shirt was bad enough but when you said "revealing" I just soiled myself.:eek:

You can tell I've never seen revealing photos of Rick because I can still draw. If I had that trauma, my eyes would be smoking craters.

Matt Doc Martin
03-24-2007, 05:17 PM
Here's the Youtube one.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=duM43dMDPPw

and the daily motion one.

http://www.dailymotion.com/dannydonovan/video/x1j8my_unscrewed-a-place-for-creators

And if you want to add it to a myspace blog you can do so here!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2017321407


Could you reshoot and memorize the script of position the script closer to the center of the camera?

Good words, but you never look at the camera. If you do press stuff, you know how important it is to connect with the viewer

Besides that, good job getting one out there.

TonyIsabella
03-24-2007, 05:25 PM
Just a breather from the Olney stuff...

ISABELLA COLLEGE REPORT 3/24/07

Truth be told, I was nervous about being a keynote speaker at Lakeland Community College's Comics Symposium. I agreed to go because of the organizers is the son of my dad's cousin. But public appearances don't come easy to me. The misfortunes of my comics career have sapped much of my confidence, much as they have adversely affected my health. But, accompanied by Bob Ingersoll and Thom Zahler, I went and did my thing.

The audience for my keynote speech was maybe 35-40 people. The professor who introduced me did so from a years-out-of-date bio on my website. I really need to update that sucker soon. But, after that awkwart start, I just started talking, telling stories from my 35 years in the business, and answering questions. I actually had to curtail the questions to clear the room for the next speaker.

About a dozen audience members followed me to a "meet-and-greet" room where I continued to tell stories and answer their questions for another hour. The organizers were thrilled. No one had ever done two hours back-to-back for them before.

Maybe I'm not such a sucky guest after all.

I also judged entries in their graphic novel competition, but that wasn't enjoyable. I couldn't grade on the curve and there was little of merit in the entries, though, to be fair to the creators, they only had one page to show what they could do.

But, all in all, I had a good time and I'm thinking maybe I should get out and do more of this kind of thing.

Tony Isabella

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 05:35 PM
Could you reshoot and memorize the script of position the script closer to the center of the camera?

Good words, but you never look at the camera. If you do press stuff, you know how important it is to connect with the viewer

Besides that, good job getting one out there.

lol. Thanks! I know it's important to connect with the viewer but there are reasons it is as it is. For one it's a little off center for vanity reasons. I was trying to hide a broken tooth the best I could.

I'm too random to be able to follow a memorized script. I could barely stay on script reading it! There's stuff I added in there toward the end that wasn't on my paper. ;)

But I may do another one later hopefully be more comfortable doing it and more able to be myself. I'm seeing how well this goes over.

There were a LOT of things I planned to do here, but it sort of fell apart when I had the camera running. When I was doing the dry runs it was alright but when I hit the record button.... booom.

future ones will be better I hope. :p

TonyIsabella
03-24-2007, 05:36 PM
I've just skimmed the Super Hero News stuff that came in yesterday and today. The Vile One is certainly pounding my "hating" bon mot for far more than it's worth outside Delusion Village.

My pal Beau Smith chided me for using the word "hate" a few weeks back when I told him how much I hated the term "politically correct," which I see as code, though certainly not in Beau's case, for "they won't let me express my bigotry openly." He definitely made me rethink my use of the word.

There are certainly people and things I do hate in this world. I don't know if my feelings about Olney rise to that level, but I wouldn't quibble about it.

I surely despise what he's done to people and his continued lies.

I intensely dislike he's wrapping my "hating" line around his Bizarro World-like depiction of the law.

Hate him? Maybe, but it's far from a slam dunk. I think the closest I came to hating him was when I read of those actions of his which hurt children.

But, if someone wants to believe that I hate a vile man who has cheated so many people, who has been so bone-nasty to people he's hurt, who lies as easily as most of us take breath, and whose bigotry is contemptable, well, I'm not gonna get my shorts in a bunch over that characterization.

Tony

Koben Kelly
03-24-2007, 05:40 PM
Unscrewed saves one soul.

Save one aspiring comics artist, save the world.

Good job, Danny!

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 05:47 PM
Save one aspiring comics artist, save the world.

Good job, Danny!

Thanks Koben!

*sigh* if it were only a Cheerleader.

Well at least it was a good artist. ;) I still would have prefered that cute blonde chick from heroes though.


But, if someone wants to believe that I hate a vile man who has cheated so many people, who has been so bone-nasty to people he's hurt, who lies as easily as most of us take breath, and whose bigotry is contemptable, well, I'm not gonna get my shorts in a bunch over that characterization.

Tony

Tony, Rick has more retarded talking points than the Fox News team on crack. "Agenda of hate" is one of his many crazy things he spouts off whenever people disagree with him. It's his way of trying to play the victim and trying to get people to feel sorry for him.

Reverend Smooth
03-24-2007, 05:48 PM
But, if someone wants to believe that I hate a vile man who has cheated so many people, who has been so bone-nasty to people he's hurt, who lies as easily as most of us take breath, and whose bigotry is contemptable, well, I'm not gonna get my shorts in a bunch over that characterization.

Tony
While very few things merit hate, some of what Olney has done -- notably taking money away from hungry (in the case of creators with families) and sick kids -- is worthy of it.

Hate's only extreme when it's not in proportion to the object of your hate, imo.

Comcman
03-24-2007, 06:05 PM
Just a breather from the Olney stuff...

ISABELLA COLLEGE REPORT 3/24/07

Truth be told, I was nervous about being a keynote speaker at Lakeland Community College's Comics Symposium. I agreed to go because of the organizers is the son of my dad's cousin. But public appearances don't come easy to me. The misfortunes of my comics career have sapped much of my confidence, much as they have adversely affected my health. But, accompanied by Bob Ingersoll and Thom Zahler, I went and did my thing.

The audience for my keynote speech was maybe 35-40 people. The professor who introduced me did so from a years-out-of-date bio on my website. I really need to update that sucker soon. But, after that awkwart start, I just started talking, telling stories from my 35 years in the business, and answering questions. I actually had to curtail the questions to clear the room for the next speaker.

About a dozen audience members followed me to a "meet-and-greet" room where I continued to tell stories and answer their questions for another hour. The organizers were thrilled. No one had ever done two hours back-to-back for them before.

Maybe I'm not such a sucky guest after all.

I also judged entries in their graphic novel competition, but that wasn't enjoyable. I couldn't grade on the curve and there was little of merit in the entries, though, to be fair to the creators, they only had one page to show what they could do.

But, all in all, I had a good time and I'm thinking maybe I should get out and do more of this kind of thing.

Tony Isabella

Tony,

I'd love to listen to you talk about your past experiences both retailing and writing comics for two hours or more and I bet there would be many others who would as well. Remember, comics fans are essentially history junkies. "Remember when Superman....." "Tell us again why Black Lightning has a fake afro, Uncle Tony."

Heck, I bet Roy Thomas would do an issue of Alter Ego on you if you asked nicely. Retailer to Creator: The Disturbing and Heartwarming Tale of Tony Isabella, "America's Most Beloved Comic-Book Writer and Columnist" (c)

I hope you feel better.

TonyIsabella
03-24-2007, 06:49 PM
Thanks, Colin, though, actually, I went from creator to retailer to whatever I am these days.

Health permitting, I'm thinking I might enjoy doing more appearances. But, as I have nothing to promote per se, it's only gonna happen when conventions and stores and schools and such cover my expenses. And they have to consider if I can put enough butts in the seats to make it worth the cost.

Gee, maybe Rick will invite me to his show. :)

Tony

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 06:55 PM
Thanks, Colin, though, actually, I went from creator to retailer to whatever I am these days.

Health permitting, I'm thinking I might enjoy doing more appearances. But, as I have nothing to promote per se, it's only gonna happen when conventions and stores and schools and such cover my expenses. And they have to consider if I can put enough butts in the seats to make it worth the cost.

Gee, maybe Rick will invite me to his show. :)

Tony

Tony, make inquiries at local libraries. They always need creators for their Teen Read Week and the ALA usually has a small budget set aside to cover guest speakers. I did a few of those a couple years ago.

Ditto on the feeling better.

As for not having anything to promote what about that "next black lightning" thing you were teasing us about awhile back? :p

SUPERECWFAN1
03-24-2007, 07:41 PM
Here's the Youtube one.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=duM43dMDPPw

and the daily motion one.

http://www.dailymotion.com/dannydonovan/video/x1j8my_unscrewed-a-place-for-creators

And if you want to add it to a myspace blog you can do so here!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2017321407

You know he's gonna complain to the websites over this don't you and threaten them . I'd contact the sites and warn them before hand. ;)

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 07:44 PM
You know he's gonna complain to the websites over this don't you and threaten them . I'd contact the sites and warn them before hand. ;)

He's got nothing to complain about. All I mention is the website's name and the charity. I go to great lengths not to make it about any one person. It isn't at all anything that breaks the rules down there. ;)

Plus he's got a LOT more problems than a podcast. :p

THEDOC
03-24-2007, 08:04 PM
Here's the Youtube one.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=duM43dMDPPw

and the daily motion one.

http://www.dailymotion.com/dannydonovan/video/x1j8my_unscrewed-a-place-for-creators

And if you want to add it to a myspace blog you can do so here!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2017321407

Great video Danny. Will add to my space.

THEDOC
03-24-2007, 08:19 PM
Thought you'd want to see some interesting Jam pics.

http://www.inter-fan.org/Art/docjampics1.JPG

Shot at my son's monitor with the history of Unscrewed.


http://www.inter-fan.org/Art/docjampics2.JPG

The Unscrewed magnets and banners that Wally can make more of.

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 08:23 PM
Great video Danny. Will add to my space.

Thanks Doc!

Awesome pics!!!!!!! Excitement!

How'd the Unscrewed merch go over? :p

THEDOC
03-24-2007, 08:26 PM
We let folks take a magnet and banner free just to get the word out and the creators like KMC and Nino and others took some to spread the word.
I will be taking some to WW-Chicago but might charge there.
I am also sending some to Mark Innes and he wil be at one of the cons Gail will be at so he will give them to her.
The Unscrewed history was part of my IF Power Point CD we were playing.

Reverend Smooth
03-24-2007, 08:28 PM
Nice stickers. XD I coulda made some with the otherlogo, too, to save y'all work.

Blake Petit
03-24-2007, 08:33 PM
Thanks, Colin, though, actually, I went from creator to retailer to whatever I am these days.

Health permitting, I'm thinking I might enjoy doing more appearances. But, as I have nothing to promote per se, it's only gonna happen when conventions and stores and schools and such cover my expenses. And they have to consider if I can put enough butts in the seats to make it worth the cost.

Gee, maybe Rick will invite me to his show. :)

Tony


Hey now, I seem to recall seeing your name in the credits for an awful lot of Gemstone comcis lately. Plus you have a not inconsiderable library to your credit, man.

(I doubt you remember, but at the 2000 Big Easy Con in New Orleans, I made it a point to seek you out and get you to sign my copy of that Captain America novel of yours.)

Flamebird
03-24-2007, 09:07 PM
Add counting to stuff Rick can't do as well. 4?

Let's run down the list huh?

1. Danny Donovan
2. Dave Rothe
3. Scott Reed
4. Jim Taylor
5. Blake M. Petit
6. Jeff Austin
7. Lance Boucher
8. Martin R. Oakley
9. Timothy J Tobolski
10.Alice Woodside

That's 10.

While Alice might not be involved in his "publishing business" she was effected by his wild ideas and no follow through. I could put Ritchey on that list too if I wanted, after all Rick did campaign hard for Green Lama.

Sooooooo, far more than 4 it seems.

:p

You forgot Ronée- Unless he paid her and we all missed it.

Nah, didn't think so. ;)


It seems like there were a few more as well, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment.

Blake Petit
03-24-2007, 09:14 PM
I don't think she signed the letter, though -- did she?

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 09:26 PM
You forgot Ronée- Unless he paid her and we all missed it.

Nah, didn't think so. ;)


It seems like there were a few more as well, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment.

We're only counting the people on the letter at the moment, because that's who Rick was talking about. :)

Flamebird
03-24-2007, 09:30 PM
We're only counting the people on the letter at the moment, because that's who Rick was talking about. :)

Fine, Rain on my parade you bunch o' cyberbullies. :p


don't make me take my socks off and get my leaggle teams after you....:evilsmile

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 09:30 PM
Suddenly I have the Letter by the Boxtops running through my head.

Sarah Beach
03-24-2007, 09:59 PM
He pounced on that listing as if it were all new to him (remember his giving thanks for the posting of the list). I think the "4" was that there were four names there of folks that had done work for him that so far had not made any public comments about it, and so, in his warped mind, had not yet broken any NDA (real or otherwise). But by signing on to this... ooops his months and months of "arrears" (and hence contract breaking) was now made null & void, because they "talked" about not being paid by signing.

Because of course Chuck qualifies as someone who "has worked for him" too.

He's a silly little nit. And deluded.

TomStillwell
03-24-2007, 10:00 PM
I had the most despressing thought today. No, not for me. For Rick.

Can you imagine what your life would be like if you had to spend all day, every day justifying your actions and words? Because that's really all that Rick seems to do.

An honest person with nothing to hide when confronted on an issue rests assured in the facts. They just tell the truth. No worries. If there's a consequence they own up and face it, paying what is due and then they are done with it.

Not Rick though. He is tirelessly locked into either lying to others, covering up lies, trying to spin revealed truths, or lying to himself. Can you imagine the amount of energy expended on just rationalization and justification alone?

Everything else in life gets pushed to the wayside with his ceaseless deceitful chores.

I don't feel sad for him. He's trapped by his own hand. I thought I'd just point out, in case it wasn't already crystal clear, that Rick leads a pathetic life.

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 10:03 PM
I had the most despressing thought today. No, not for me. For Rick.
I don't feel sad for him. He's trapped by his own hand. I thought I'd just point out, in case it wasn't already crystal clear, that Rick leads a pathetic life.

And he tries REEEALLL hard to make everybody else unhappy just like him.

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 10:03 PM
He pounced on that listing as if it were all new to him (remember his giving thanks for the posting of the list). I think the "4" was that there were four names there of folks that had done work for him that so far had not made any public comments about it, and so, in his warped mind, had not yet broken any NDA (real or otherwise). But by signing on to this... ooops his months and months of "arrears" (and hence contract breaking) was now made null & void, because they "talked" about not being paid by signing.

Because of course Chuck qualifies as someone who "has worked for him" too.

He's a silly little nit. And deluded.

CHUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I knew I was forgetting someone. Okay. 11.

Still way more than 4.

Thanks for reminding me Sarah! ;)

rummblestrips
03-24-2007, 10:07 PM
I've been thinking that for a while. It is really sad. For Rick, in the quiet moments where he can actually hear himself think, he must feel like he's drowning. That line, "the truth will set you free" really does apply to him. It must be really terrible being him, having to constantly convince yourself that YOU are right and everyone else is wrong, but that little voice in your head keeps you up at night, and drinking too much and making decisions that get you deeper into this nightmare. If he only told the truth and did the right thing, this would be over and he could start anew.

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 10:07 PM
CHUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I knew I was forgetting someone. Okay. 11.

Still way more than 4.

Thanks for reminding me Sarah! ;)

If he counted any higher, he'd have to take off his shoes.

OzBat!
03-24-2007, 10:07 PM
Hrrrm. I haven't seen his convention referenced at any of the convention websites (http://www.comicbookconventions.com/conventions.htm) yet. I wonder how many guests and convention attendees he's going to get with both the MOCCA Art Festival, and the Big Apple Con, on the same dates?

Sarah Beach
03-24-2007, 10:23 PM
Hrrrm. I haven't seen his convention referenced at any of the convention websites (http://www.comicbookconventions.com/conventions.htm) yet. I wonder how many guests and convention attendees he's going to get with both the MOCCA Art Festival, and the Big Apple Con, on the same dates?

But, you must realize! His convention is to service upstate New York! Because who in their right mind would want to go down to nasty Manhattan and environs for a comic book convention? The wonderful Mohawk Valley is by far the most beautiful place on earth!




LOL Okay, so I couldn't type that last without giggling. In my book, Lake Louise in Banff is the most beautiful place on earth!

Danny Donovan
03-24-2007, 10:25 PM
If he counted any higher, he'd have to take off his shoes.

I'll have you know that's how my accountant does my taxes.

Oh southern accounting firms.. :p

I've been thinking that for a while. It is really sad. For Rick, in the quiet moments where he can actually hear himself think, he must feel like he's drowning. That line, "the truth will set you free" really does apply to him. It must be really terrible being him, having to constantly convince yourself that YOU are right and everyone else is wrong, but that little voice in your head keeps you up at night, and drinking too much and making decisions that get you deeper into this nightmare. If he only told the truth and did the right thing, this would be over and he could start anew.

Reminds me of a song.. but damned if I know what it was...

grrr.

Lets just go with "American Idiot" that's close enough.


Hrrrm. I haven't seen his convention referenced at any of the convention websites (http://www.comicbookconventions.com/conventions.htm) yet. I wonder how many guests and convention attendees he's going to get with both the MOCCA Art Festival, and the Big Apple Con, on the same dates?


Don't be foolish Oz, no one goes to those "conventions" they're held every year! Anyone can go to those, but an MMC it's like Shang-Ri-La... if Shang-Ri-La got rennovated into a crack house... it only appears once ever 50 years then dissapears into the mists you'll never know when you'll get to do another one.

Also anyone that goes to those other "conventions" obviously hates America. and kids (but not kids with cancer, they're icky and don't have any money to give Orca.. I mean.. don't understand how Rick helping them discover the beauty of sequential art.)

also those are merely "comic conventions" Not a pop-art festival. It's got BIG NAME TALENT coming. Like Big Lou the hottest prison tattoo artist in the world!

Also, the third beach corpse from the left from "Saving Private Ryan" at least that's who he says he is, he just happens to have a marine uniform and that's good enough for Rick!

Sarah Beach
03-24-2007, 10:27 PM
I had the most despressing thought today. No, not for me. For Rick.

Can you imagine what your life would be like if you had to spend all day, every day justifying your actions and words? Because that's really all that Rick seems to do.

An honest person with nothing to hide when confronted on an issue rests assured in the facts. They just tell the truth. No worries. If there's a consequence they own up and face it, paying what is due and then they are done with it.

Not Rick though. He is tirelessly locked into either lying to others, covering up lies, trying to spin revealed truths, or lying to himself. Can you imagine the amount of energy expended on just rationalization and justification alone?

Everything else in life gets pushed to the wayside with his ceaseless deceitful chores.

I don't feel sad for him. He's trapped by his own hand. I thought I'd just point out, in case it wasn't already crystal clear, that Rick leads a pathetic life.

Ah, but think of one of his favorite blanket insults that he throws around: that certain people (us!?!) have no life other than trolling around the internet. Of course, that is psychological projection -- for it seems pretty clear that in reality he is the one with no other life but trolling around the internet, spamming yahoo lists and anywhere else he's allowed to post.

Pfft.

Me, I'm now going to go take care of my real life and do some things -- *gasp* OFF-LINE! ;)

Inkpot1965
03-24-2007, 10:30 PM
I'll have you know that's how my accountant does my taxes.

Oh southern accounting firms.. :p

That's it, young'un! You go cut yerself a switch. I'm gonna tan your hide.

Darediva
03-24-2007, 10:54 PM
Thought you'd want to see some interesting Jam pics.

http://www.inter-fan.org/Art/docjampics1.JPG

Shot at my son's monitor with the history of Unscrewed.


http://www.inter-fan.org/Art/docjampics2.JPG

The Unscrewed magnets and banners that Wally can make more of.

Awesome, Doc! The magnets really show up well. It would be good to have some of those at CAPE.

Darediva
03-24-2007, 11:14 PM
While Alice might not be involved in his "publishing business" she was effected by his wild ideas and no follow through.



Right. He invited me to be *guest* at his MightyMiniCon in June, telling me that he was going to pay my way out, put me up in a nice lodging, pay for meals, and get me scheduled to talk to some library groups. When that was cancelled at the last minute, because he had the heart attack, he promised another trip to "The Spooky", which never materialized either. That, and tried to get me to make a Spider-Man quilt for him, which I did not do, because he would never send me the down payment for supplies that I require for EVERY such commission.

Side note: On my own, here in Arkansas, and down in Texas, I have done talks and slide presentations about graphic novels/comics and how I came to do the Daredevil Project. Very well received by the young readers groups, and was a blast for me as well. I was promised free comics from ORCA to be sent to these library groups in conjunction with my programs, and none were ever sent. I recruited the local retailer to donate some. He came through for me. Still waiting on the ORCA comics.

MacQuarrie
03-24-2007, 11:43 PM
I've been thinking that for a while. It is really sad. For Rick, in the quiet moments where he can actually hear himself think, he must feel like he's drowning. That line, "the truth will set you free" really does apply to him. It must be really terrible being him, having to constantly convince yourself that YOU are right and everyone else is wrong, but that little voice in your head keeps you up at night, and drinking too much and making decisions that get you deeper into this nightmare. If he only told the truth and did the right thing, this would be over and he could start anew.
You forgot about the worst part. His world is a dark and awful place, because he lives in a world where everyone is just as dishonest, scheming, and malignant as he is.

Honest people tend to assume other people are honest until proven otherwise. So they live in a world of mostly decent people with a few bad apples. Dishonest people assume other people are as dishonest as they are until they prove themselves otherwise, in which case they are potential victims. So they live in a world full of lying thieves and a few idiots.

Sounds like hell to me. I like my world a lot better.

DaveRothe
03-25-2007, 12:33 AM
You forgot about the worst part. His world is a dark and awful place, because he lives in a world where everyone is just as dishonest, scheming, and malignant as he is.

Honest people tend to assume other people are honest until proven otherwise. So they live in a world of mostly decent people with a few bad apples. Dishonest people assume other people are as dishonest as they are until they prove themselves otherwise, in which case they are potential victims. So they live in a world full of lying thieves and a few idiots.

Sounds like hell to me. I like my world a lot better.

Not to mention having to live with the fact every time you look in the mirror and see the face of a man that steals money from dying kids. In case you're reading this Rick You steal money from dying kids. I think this is worthy of repeating. YOU STEAL MONEY FROM DYING KIDS. You profess to care so much about bringing them comics. Why don't you bring them a little joy in their remaining days here on earth. Give them the money you OWE them. Think about it for a second Rick. You yourself are a father and have kids. Now think about what if they had cancer and were dying? You'd try to make their last days as pleasant as possible wouldn't you? These kids never did a thing to you. And for you to take their money for your own selfish gains that is just sickening. You turn my stomach. Goos night, pukee indeed.

Koben Kelly
03-25-2007, 02:23 AM
He is tirelessly locked into either lying to others, covering up lies, trying to spin revealed truths, or lying to himself. Can you imagine the amount of energy expended on just rationalization and justification alone?

This is why I say that the film, Broken Glass, starring Hayden Christiansen, is so relevant to this whole shebang.

It's based on a true story. Rent it, watch it, or at least look it up on IMBD, and you'll see what I mean. He'll keep throwing cowchip after cowchip until reality comes crashing down all over him.

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 02:27 AM
This is why I say that the film, Broken Glass, starring Hayden Christiansen, is so relevant to this whole shebang.

It's based on a true story. Rent it, watch it, or at least look it up on IMBD, and you'll see what I mean. He'll keep throwing cowchip after cowchip until reality comes crashing down all over him.

Dude. After Star Wars, I NEVER want to see Hayden Christiansen in anything ever again.

Koben Kelly
03-25-2007, 02:31 AM
In case you're reading this Rick You steal money from dying kids. I think this is worthy of repeating. YOU STEAL MONEY FROM DYING KIDS

Just want to make sure that OKRA sees this. It ain't libel if it's true, pal.

Feel free to submit this quote to the appropriate authorities. Am I leaggly endangering myself now, OKRA?

Koben Kelly
03-25-2007, 02:33 AM
Dude. After Star Wars, I NEVER want to see Hayden Christiansen in anything ever again.

But, Mr. Donovan, he's portraying a very Rick-esque character. You are encouraged to dislike him. It makes the viewing experience so much more real.

Seriously, though, check it out.

Okay, ROSARIO is in it. Hah! That got your attention, eh?

Wingnut
03-25-2007, 02:56 AM
I'm just a reject from the J-bolt boards, but with all the talk about this thread, I checked it out several days ago. I can't say that I've even read half of it, but I can surely get the picture.

I feel so sorry for all the people this low-life swindled. I applaud all of you for how you've handled the situation, and especially for your Unscrewed website.

Right now, I wouldn't take the time to piss on this Olney guy if he was on fire. In fact, I think I'd grab a bag of marshmellows.

Let him make all of this empty threats. His shenanigans will end when the REAL court cases come up. I would make sure that you compile official documents of all the rulings, and keep them handy for subsequent legal proceedings. They may not be able to be used as evidence in the proceedings themselves, but if there comes a time for a judge to level more than a monetary penalty, (award to those damaged), the judge may be VERY interested in seeing his litany of continued offenses when it comes to sentencing.

Anyway...stay strong, and give this rat bastage hell!!!

JamesRitcheyIII
03-25-2007, 03:44 AM
But, Mr. Donovan, he's portraying a very Rick-esque character. You are encouraged to dislike him. It makes the viewing experience so much more real.


The second movie is a '180' from the personality of the kid in Phantom Menace. If the first kid had been an insufferable, whiny little brat, I could have seen the consistency. The last two movies would have been better if it wasn't as if a Rick-esque writer wrote all of his dialogue. I understand how Olney likely got that way--he's a born sociopath--I just don't buy Anakin's motivation in going from petulant shit to Uber-nazi--it should have been more of a slow build-up between all three movies. I don't think Christiansen is exactly Olivier, either.

TonyIsabella
03-25-2007, 05:38 AM
Just checking in before I write tomorrow's TONY'S OTHER ONLINE TIPS column for CBGXtra.com

Danny...I'm still in the research and character-building stage of "my next Black Lightning." Before I wrote the first script of the second Black Lightning series, I spent a year tutoring at risk kids in Cleveland's inner city and interviewing and working with ministers, administrators, cops, etc. I can't do that kind of hands on research for this character, but it is an involved process.

Tony

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 07:27 AM
Danny...I'm still in the research and character-building stage of "my next Black Lightning." Before I wrote the first script of the second Black Lightning series, I spent a year tutoring at risk kids in Cleveland's inner city and interviewing and working with ministers, administrators, cops, etc. I can't do that kind of hands on research for this character, but it is an involved process.

Tony

Damn!

That is awesome. Makes me feel like a slacker. The only thing I do to prepeare myelf is either put my undies on over my pants and beat up bald businessmen, (or the kid in the helmet and scream "take that magneto!") or go a few weeks without shaving and chant "nannanananna be one with the busiek, let the power of the busiek compell you nanannanananna"

:p

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 07:47 AM
And if anyone has any publications coming up and would like to run some Unscrewed ads we have some here:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Unscrewed_ad_1-100dpi.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Unscrewed_ad_2-100dpi.jpg

Feel free to use these and if you need them in a certain format/size PM Mac and poke him with a stick.

:p

rummblestrips
03-25-2007, 07:59 AM
And if anyone has any publications coming up and would like to run some Unscrewed ads we have some here:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Unscrewed_ad_1-100dpi.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Unscrewed_ad_2-100dpi.jpg

Feel free to use these and if you need them in a certain format/size PM Mac and poke him with a stick.

:p


Great work! I would like to have fliers like this that I can bring to shows. We attend more anime shows than comic shows these days so I can reach a huge amount of anime artists that might not even know what's going on.

And when I have funds, I will definitely be grabbing a t-shirt or two so I can wear them to San Diego. There's not better advertising venue then a woman's chest when you're at a comicbook show.;)

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 08:10 AM
Great work! I would like to have fliers like this that I can bring to shows. We attend more anime shows than comic shows these days so I can reach a huge amount of anime artists that might not even know what's going on.

And when I have funds, I will definitely be grabbing a t-shirt or two so I can wear them to San Diego. There's not better advertising venue then a woman's chest when you're at a comicbook show.;)

Joanne, if you PM me your addy and what shirt you want (and in what size)
i'll send you one. :)

lol. And you are completely right.

EdContradictory
03-25-2007, 08:14 AM
The level of delusion here is palpable.

I find it particularly amusing that he can't divulge the names of the people who are going to get paid

And that he thinks "communicationally" is a word.

Justin Carr
03-25-2007, 08:23 AM
And if anyone has any publications coming up and would like to run some Unscrewed ads we have some here:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Unscrewed_ad_1-100dpi.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Unscrewed_ad_2-100dpi.jpg

Feel free to use these and if you need them in a certain format/size PM Mac and poke him with a stick.

:p


From the looks of those images, it sounds like Unscrewed is moving beyond Rick Olney and towards protecting artists in general. That sounds like a very worthwhile goal. Especially since Olney will have a very short shelf-life. Too many people know about him and too many lawsuits have been successful.

Besides, I think a mission statement like that will be more attractive to the average person that comes along, opposed to a dedicated Anti-Olney stance. Constantly saying "We're against Olney" may turn some people off because they might view it as, well, a vendetta. Saying "We're against people who exploit young people trying to make a break in the field. Here is an example of one such individual" has a more 'noble' feel to it and may endear the cause to the public better.

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 08:31 AM
From the looks of those images, it sounds like Unscrewed is moving beyond Rick Olney and towards protecting artists in general. That sounds like a very worthwhile goal. Especially since Olney will have a very short shelf-life. Too many people know about him and too many lawsuits have been successful.

Besides, I think a mission statement like that will be more attractive to the average person that comes along, opposed to a dedicated Anti-Olney stance. Constantly saying "We're against Olney" may turn some people off because they might view it as, well, a vendetta. Saying "We're against people who exploit young people trying to make a break in the field. Here is an example of one such individual" has a more 'noble' feel to it and may endear the cause to the public better.

Yep. Once Olney is dead and buried Unscrewed is going to continue its fight for creator rights. :)

Larry Dixon
03-25-2007, 08:41 AM
Yep. Once Olney is dead and buried Unscrewed is going to continue its fight for creator rights. :)

We shall also fight
for our right
to party.


"Gail Simone" is a Beastie Boy.

Matt Doc Martin
03-25-2007, 08:43 AM
And if anyone has any publications coming up and would like to run some Unscrewed ads we have some here:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Unscrewed_ad_1-100dpi.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Unscrewed_ad_2-100dpi.jpg

Feel free to use these and if you need them in a certain format/size PM Mac and poke him with a stick.

:p



I can't wait to see Rick whining about how "his" art is being used.

Oh...his blogs are private. So I guess we won't see it.

TomStillwell
03-25-2007, 08:54 AM
I can't wait to see Rick whining about how "his" art is being used.

Oh...his blogs are private. So I guess we won't see it.

You can't own what you didn't produce or buy.

Unless it was a gift from the creators, which we all know to be untrue.

THEDOC
03-25-2007, 09:05 AM
Awesome, Doc! The magnets really show up well. It would be good to have some of those at CAPE.
PM me your info and will see if Wally can make soem more. When is it?

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 09:08 AM
I can't wait to see Rick whining about how "his" art is being used.

Oh...his blogs are private. So I guess we won't see it.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. :p

the4thpip
03-25-2007, 09:24 AM
I pimped the Unscrewed auction over at the Joe Quesada board.

TonyIsabella
03-25-2007, 09:31 AM
Nice PSAs, Danny. Feel free to post them on my message board. I'd post them myself, but I never figured out how to do that.

Tony

Tegan
03-25-2007, 10:52 AM
Feel free to use these and if you need them in a certain format/size PM Mac and poke him with a stick.

Is it ok if I print these out in B&W and hand them out at Emerald City Comicon? I've got another flier I plan on making, I can just add these to my printing efforts.

JamesRitcheyIII
03-25-2007, 10:58 AM
Suddenly I have the Letter by the Boxtops running through my head.

Interesting synchronicity--my old band and I opened for Alex Chilton, once.:)

Cam63
03-25-2007, 11:00 AM
We shall also fight
for our right
to party.


"Gail Simone" is a Beastie Boy.

...Beastly when she's in a mood, you mean.

Papergirl
03-25-2007, 11:05 AM
Nice PSAs, Danny. Feel free to post them on my message board. I'd post them myself, but I never figured out how to do that.

Tony
Done! :D

~Bev

Papergirl
03-25-2007, 11:07 AM
It seems the server wanted to make EXTRA sure I posted my reply here...

:eek:

~Bev

JTPencils
03-25-2007, 11:27 AM
You can't own what you didn't produce or buy.

Unless it was a gift from the creators, which we all know to be untrue.

Shame there isn't some way to get it so these things are signed. I'd gladly put my moniker on them!!!

Papergirl
03-25-2007, 11:32 AM
GAH! Stupid triple post!

Papergirl
03-25-2007, 11:39 AM
GAH! Stupid triple post! AGAIN!

Night Swordsman
03-25-2007, 12:22 PM
GAH! Stupid triple post! AGAIN!

It is because your so nice,you repeat everything thrice! :D

Matt Doc Martin
03-25-2007, 01:23 PM
It is because your so nice,you repeat everything thrice! :D

Do shut up.

TonyIsabella
03-25-2007, 02:01 PM
Thanks for posting those, Bev. I really should learn how to use my own message board.

Tony

DaveRothe
03-25-2007, 02:01 PM
Shame there isn't some way to get it so these things are signed. I'd gladly put my moniker on them!!!

The heck with the monika, JT. Howbout a signature instead!;)

Papergirl
03-25-2007, 02:11 PM
Thanks for posting those, Bev. I really should learn how to use my own message board.

Tony
No problem at all, Tony! Thank you for letting us post them there! :)

~Bev

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 02:53 PM
Is it ok if I print these out in B&W and hand them out at Emerald City Comicon? I've got another flier I plan on making, I can just add these to my printing efforts.

Please do!!!!!!!!

Nice PSAs, Danny. Feel free to post them on my message board. I'd post them myself, but I never figured out how to do that.

Tony

Thanks Tony!

Will do!

oh it looks like the lovely Beverly beat me too it. :p

That's what I get for being up all night and sleeping all day. :p




Thinking of the 70's reminds me of my time in the United States Marine Corps, and the grief I've been taking elsewhere by the -- Oh, so ignorant ones -- as they just let anything drip from their lips. But that's okay, as it has prompted me to kick a bunch of comics people off my myspace page here. And guess what!? I'm replacing them with fellow Marine friends, active and retired, to get better in touch with that part of my life.

While on active duty, I was awarded two Meritorius Masts'. At the time my enlistment ended (and there's a funny story there too) , I had been a Corporal (E-4) with over 3 years time-in-grade, and had been turned away for E-5 twice. I had a set of the highest pro & con marks for my company, and I qualified Expert on the rifle range during my entire enlistment period, and while carrying a M1911A1 45 caliber handgun on duty assignment qualified sharpshooter and then expert. So excuse this former Marine's pride in tagging himself "a Marine's Marine", okay?


Still putting the finishing touches on the June Mighty MiniCon (http://www.mightyminicon.com/). 'Course, after my 2004 and 2006 convention hosting failures due to illness and death ... I don''t expect the majority of the upstate New York comics crowd to come back strong, but we've got time to still build the MMC into a nice little mighty event!


Our venue will be posted as the website link states, and advertising will be 3 times as strong simply because we need not cater to any larger crowd 'draw' names. As its an opening weekend in June, and the area we've chosen is BEAUTIFUL ... we're sure that the walk-in traffic will be fairly energetic. Like me!

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 02:54 PM
The heck with the monika, JT. Howbout a signature instead!;)

Hey if he wants to bring Red Monika from Battle Chasers somewhere LET HIM.

Hot redheaded pirates get to go wherever they want. :p

MacQuarrie
03-25-2007, 02:55 PM
Is it ok if I print these out in B&W and hand them out at Emerald City Comicon? I've got another flier I plan on making, I can just add these to my printing efforts.
Download high-resolution versions for printing.

http://www.jimmacq.com/unscrewed/Unscrewed_ad_1.jpg

http://www.jimmacq.com/unscrewed/Unscrewed_ad_2.jpg

There are at 300 dpi. much better for printing.

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 03:14 PM
Download high-resolution versions for printing.

http://www.jimmacq.com/unscrewed/Unscrewed_ad_1.jpg

http://www.jimmacq.com/unscrewed/Unscrewed_ad_2.jpg

There are at 300 dpi. much better for printing.

General JackCosmo would like them as 300DPI tiffs if you have a chance. He's going to give us a full page in all his upcoming diamond solicited titles, when they're next available.

JTPencils
03-25-2007, 03:22 PM
The heck with the monika, JT. Howbout a signature instead!;)

"Signatures cost $40..." - William Shatner

LOL.

Sure, signature, moniker, I'll slobber a kiss on 'em with lipstick if anyone wants it... (uh... maybe the lipstick thing was going to far).

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 03:42 PM
Dude, you people are lucky I loves ya like I do. Do you realize it costs money to post on Kevin Smith's forum?

;)

Yes, the unscrewed ads are making their rounds EVERY DAMN WHERE. :p

OzBat!
03-25-2007, 04:08 PM
Do shut up.You know, this is getting incredibly boring and juvenile. You don't like Night Swordsman. We get it already. We don't need to hear about it every time he posts something. Put him on ignore like a normal person would and move on already, wouldjya?

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 04:40 PM
http://z8.invisionfree.com/Superdickery_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4216

hee.

Inkpot1965
03-25-2007, 04:42 PM
There's not better advertising venue then a woman's chest when you're at a comicbook show.;)

Or anywhere else, for that matter.

Inkpot1965
03-25-2007, 04:47 PM
Interesting synchronicity--my old band and I opened for Alex Chilton, once.:)

And lived to tell about it.

Inkpot1965
03-25-2007, 04:49 PM
It seems the server wanted to make EXTRA sure I posted my reply here...

:eek:

~Bev

The server has a crush on you.;)

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 04:54 PM
I dunno if anyone mentioned this bit from mike bullock or not, I know he's posted and signed our list...

Two of the most common questions I get in interviews and at signings is “How do you come up with this stuff?” and “How do you make comics?” Well, for those interested in the answer to these questions and more, get comfortable and be prepared to go on a two-pronged journey that will illustrate how, and how not, to make funny books.

Everything starts with a spark. In most cases for me, it’s something I create all on my own. In other cases, someone will come to me and say, “Hey, would you like to create a story for ____?” Once I have that initial spark, I take it, whirl it around in my mind for a few days, allowing it to blossom into a fully realized plot before sitting down and making that little blinking cursor on my screen move off to the right, leaving a trail of words in its wake.

Once I have the plot laid out, I’ll turn around and break it down into story pages, then script out those pages, then go back and smooth over the whole mess, tweaking the dialogue and making sure it reads well as a whole.

That is the easy part.

What is the hard part you ask? Glaring into the maw of uncertainty with a child of my imagination gripping my hand in fear, when an unknown publisher asks me to work for them and I simply don’t have any frame of reference to go by when considering their business ethics. Now, keep in mind, I’m not talking about Image, Dark Horse, Marvel, DC, Moonstone or Archie Comics, all of which are professional outfits in every sense of the word.

For anyone who’s followed my brief career to this point, you know my luck with this sort of thing is about 50-50. Moreover, while I’ve had more than my share of bad experiences, the worst of them all has come to a head over the last few weeks.

Early last summer, fellow LTB (http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/shop/product.php?a=87213)’er and all around good guy Dave Lanphear approached me and asked if the LTB creative team could put together a six-page, all-ages horror story for an upcoming anthology to be produced by Tight Lip Entertainment. It seems Dave had been given a position in the company and promised the keys to the land of milk & honey. Having nothing but love for Dave and faith in his word, I went to Gutz and Bob and asked them if they’d want to do this thing. They both wanted to, and so we had at it.

Six pages later, we had a completed story, which both Dave and Rick Olney (Owner of Tight Lip) agreed was wonderful and a welcome addition to the book. Upon delivery of the script, I was to be paid fifteen days later. Upon delivery of the line art, Gutz was to be paid fifteen days later and, you guessed it, upon delivery of the colored pages, Bob was to be paid fifteen days later.

It didn’t take long before we started to think something smelled fishy in the land of Olney.

(Before you go any further, you might want to take a few minutes and familiarize yourself with the Tight Lip Entertainment blurbs in the following columns:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2635 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2635)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2642 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2642)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2648 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2648)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2659 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2659)


Then read the following thread on Comic Book Resources
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=156451 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=156451)

And the following Op/Ed piece from former Tight Lip employee, Ronee Bourgeois
http://www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw/ (http://www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw/)

Then my Cliff Notes version of what happened to us:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4208295&postcount=2702 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4208295&postcount=2702)

Done and up to speed now? Good.

It’s now been over one hundred and sixty days later and not only haven’t we been paid, but Rick Olney has had the audacity to threaten us with legal action for demanding we be paid what is owed us. To make matters worse, he stiffed Dave for work performed and fired him, get this, on CHRISTMAS EVE!

To put this in perspective, since this all began, I’ve received several checks from Image Comics (a better publisher I don’t think exists), one from Archie Comics (also top-notch folks who put the “pro” in “professional”), three from Moonstone Books (one of the most honest, honorable and hard working small press publishers in the business) as well as a shipment of books owed to me by Alias Comics. I’ve also completed seven twenty-two page scripts, worked out the entire plot to LTBv3 and began the plot for an upcoming Phantom mini-series. After that, I began molding the ground work for two new creator owned series, as well as written a full pitch for a chapter book series (including one full chapter) and crafted a pitch for one of the Big Two’s larger than life characters. Meanwhile, no check from Rick.

What did Rick do during that time? He threatened me, insulted me, lied to me, lied about me, lied about himself, crafted a fictitious attorney who has apparently turned Rick into the latest version of Howard Handupme and done this ad infinitum to some of the industries hardest working people. Current estimates by people in the know have Rick’s total debt to the comic creating community totaling somewhere between $60,000-$105,000!!

While all this sounds horrific (because… it is!), don’t let that trouble you. With everything in life, you’re going to encounter potholes, con artists and crooks. Thankfully, the comic industry has an overabundance of wonderful people whom you’ll meet along the way. If you go anywhere in this industry you’ll encounter some fine folks like Gail Simone, Erik Larsen, Mike Pellerito, Joe Gentile, Mark Waid, Dave Lanphear, Ron Marz, Kurt Busiek, Mike Wieringo, Chuck Dixon, Eric Stephenson, Lori G, Joe Keating, Kris Simon and countless others.

Once you find one of these folks, or one of the awesome people at Top Shelf, Archaia Studios Press, Viper, Marvel, DC, Dark Horse or elsewhere, and you have your story ready to go, don’t be discouraged by the Rick Olney’s of the world. If you want to create comics, you’re already familiar with the struggle between good & evil, so just be prepared to join the fight.

For a nice primer on what to look for when dealing with an unfamiliar publisher, check out Dwight MacPherson’s new column on Broken Frontier: http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/details.php?id=588 (http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/details.php?id=588)

Inkpot1965
03-25-2007, 05:02 PM
I dunno if anyone mentioned this bit from mike bullock or not, I know he's posted and signed our list...

I like his guy already.

Papergirl
03-25-2007, 05:04 PM
I dunno if anyone mentioned this bit from mike bullock or not, I know he's posted and signed our list...
Mike Bullock flat out ROCKS. I keep on saying that. :D

~Bev

OzBat!
03-25-2007, 05:07 PM
If you haven't read Mike's Lions Tigers and Bears you are doing yourself a grave disservice. GRAVE!

Blake Petit
03-25-2007, 05:10 PM
If you haven't read Mike's Lions Tigers and Bears you are doing yourself a grave disservice. GRAVE!

Word.

And his Phantom is damn good too.

Papergirl
03-25-2007, 05:14 PM
Word.

And his Phantom is damn good too.
Damn straight on BOTH counts!

:D

~Bev

Cam63
03-25-2007, 05:52 PM
Looks like I better go check 'em out.

Justin Carr
03-25-2007, 06:21 PM
http://z8.invisionfree.com/Superdickery_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4216

hee.

I just thought I'd help get the word out. I'm not as elegant a speaker as Mike Bullock nor do I have any stake in all of this, but it is one of the few forums I go to that is comic related. (The other being Comicbloc, but they have a strict "No Bashing" policy and I don't know how they would react to a post there...)

Just doing my little bit for the 'cause'. *G*

KevinTBrown
03-25-2007, 07:03 PM
I just thought I'd help get the word out. I'm not as elegant a speaker as Mike Bullock nor do I have any stake in all of this, but it is one of the few forums I go to that is comic related. (The other being Comicbloc, but they have a strict "No Bashing" policy and I don't know how they would react to a post there...)

Just doing my little bit for the 'cause'. *G*

No, they don't have a "No Bashing" policy there....... They just play favorites when it suits them. ;)

DaveRothe
03-25-2007, 08:22 PM
No, they don't have a "No Bashing" policy there....... They just play favorites when it suits them. ;)

So no naked people in Comicbloc then? No wait... that's flashing... nevermind!

Matt Doc Martin
03-25-2007, 09:03 PM
Originally Posted by Sgt Orca

Thinking of the 70's reminds me of my time in the United States Marine Corps, and the grief I've been taking elsewhere by the -- Oh, so ignorant ones -- as they just let anything drip from their lips. But that's okay, as it has prompted me to kick a bunch of comics people off my myspace page here. And guess what!? I'm replacing them with fellow Marine friends, active and retired, to get better in touch with that part of my life.

While on active duty, I was awarded two Meritorius Masts'. At the time my enlistment ended (and there's a funny story there too) , I had been a Corporal (E-4) with over 3 years time-in-grade, and had been turned away for E-5 twice. I had a set of the highest pro & con marks for my company, and I qualified Expert on the rifle range during my entire enlistment period, and while carrying a M1911A1 45 caliber handgun on duty assignment qualified sharpshooter and then expert. So excuse this former Marine's pride in tagging himself "a Marine's Marine", okay?
Quote:
Originally Posted by honestly I MEAN not to have any good guests it's part of my plan not to make any money at anything.
Still putting the finishing touches on the June Mighty MiniCon. 'Course, after my 2004 and 2006 convention hosting failures due to illness and death ... I don''t expect the majority of the upstate New York comics crowd to come back strong, but we've got time to still build the MMC into a nice little mighty event!


Our venue will be posted as the website link states, and advertising will be 3 times as strong simply because we need not cater to any larger crowd 'draw' names. As its an opening weekend in June, and the area we've chosen is BEAUTIFUL ... we're sure that the walk-in traffic will be fairly energetic. Like me!

Where were these posted?

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 09:09 PM
Where were these posted?

On his secret hidden myspace.

I have someone on the inside. :p

DaveRothe
03-25-2007, 09:13 PM
On his secret hidden myspace.

I have someone on the inside. :p

Creeeeeeeeeeeeepy! But I like it!:)

Danny Donovan
03-25-2007, 09:16 PM
Creeeeeeeeeeeeepy! But I like it!:)

Dude I have contacts in the biz that would have made Rick a LOT of money, if he operated fairly.

But now I must use them for evil, and thus for the greater good. The pendulim swings in interesting ways doesn't it? :p

Joshua Pantalleresco
03-25-2007, 09:26 PM
If you haven't read Mike's Lions Tigers and Bears you are doing yourself a grave disservice. GRAVE!

I'm STILL kicking myself for not getting this when it first came out. And you won't find too many others with the class, sincereness and honestly nicest guys in the industry. Mike Bullock Rocks!

JP

Joshua Pantalleresco
03-25-2007, 09:27 PM
So no naked people in Comicbloc then? No wait... that's flashing... nevermind!

Yes there is flashing in comicbloc. They just don't like to bash...much.

JP

sk716
03-25-2007, 09:34 PM
You know, this is getting incredibly boring and juvenile. You don't like Night Swordsman. We get it already. We don't need to hear about it every time he posts something. Put him on ignore like a normal person would and move on already, wouldjya?

Seconded!

If you haven't read Mike's Lions Tigers and Bears you are doing yourself a grave disservice. GRAVE!

Also seconded.

Blake Petit
03-25-2007, 09:35 PM
At this point, I think you're fourth or fifthing it. :D