View Full Version : Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 04:30 PM
How can retailers support books that haven't and never will come out? Has Rick found the secret to selling air? WHAT A GENIUS!
Ask Joe Mad!
oooooooh. I'm sorry.
:p
Blake Petit
03-22-2007, 04:31 PM
I thought the secret to selling air was charging ten bucks a pop and calling it an "oxygen bar."
Inkpot1965
03-22-2007, 04:32 PM
Ask Joe Mad!
oooooooh. I'm sorry.
:p
At least he has printed samples to show;)
Inkpot1965
03-22-2007, 04:33 PM
I thought the secret to selling air was charging ten bucks a pop and calling it an "oxygen bar."
Or having a rack of tires beside it also for sale.
the4thpip
03-22-2007, 04:42 PM
Libeling yourself into that false sense of slanderous security is like dancing about architecture.
JamesRitcheyIII
03-22-2007, 04:46 PM
Why is everyone thinking I'm in any sort of uproar? I think I have posted in calm even tones. Me chill? Why isn't one apology enough?
It took me 3 years to rebuild the SPA into something worth being a member of again. Why should I CARE??????????????? I don't get it
The CAG dues pay for their anthology, for things like the field trip I posted about earlier, and - jeez...I don't REALLY have to defend a group's right to have DUES to be a member of it do I?
Hey, the SPA is FREE membership, but I work closely with CAG, and other groups. Common goals.
Anyway...I hope this is done.
Ian, I've nothing but respect for your accomplishments over the last few years, and I'm truly sorry if this hit you at a bad, busy time. I just felt it was 'guilt by association' on really reached-for 'trumped-up charges'. Why you keep portraying me as an antagonist after you said we could simply 'agree to disagree' really bugs me, though. I left it alone. As I once said to Rick (in abject gullibility), "I'll treat you with common human decency and respect, but if you desire reverence, you're barking up the wrong tree.". We both know reverence from people is Rick's definition of friendship. NOT saying you've gone that far, but the repetition that I somehow waved my 'Normous I.Q. in your face, well, was again kinda 'reaching'. The whole paragraph was an analogy, that YOU were included in--calling Dube a moron was inappropriate, because many of us here have been that kind of moron. I don't agree that this is 'all over the web'--but I think we have a good start. It seemed in one line, you were bitching about Dube being a lapdog, and in the next line, bitching about the poor bastard having an ego (you and I both rather fit into that category), and not being a better 'team player', by starting his own group. It just seemed ironic. The kid needs to be talked into going to art school or something, and to get away from the Whale--not be vilified. I'm also sorry if CAG got fragged (sic), somehow, by our exchange. I've been on their Yahoo Group for over 3 years, and have never seen anything outside of an occasional post for meetings in NYC. Maybe it's the NYC-specific site. I'd love to know more about them, if they are on the move.
the4thpip
03-22-2007, 04:47 PM
Well...I have bad news for Rick...Yet another letter from the NY AG and guess what? They ARE looking into it! It seems that Rick committing charity fraud was worth investigating! Who knew?
Have a nice evening, Rick! You stupid, stupid man.
Oooh, I'm gonna sleep with a smile on my face tonight. :D
Sarah Beach
03-22-2007, 05:00 PM
I'm starvin'! I'm not getting enough for my mockery diet. *sniff* This is a real hardship. I got addicted to having such a ready and deserving target at hand, that this silence (or hiddenness) from the critter is disappointing.
It's sooooo bad, how I've gotten into this sport. I should move on. I'll have to eventually.
"False sense of slanderous security"..... hee. It's not slander or libel if it's true, oh paramecium! Just thought I'd put in that reminder again. :evilsmile
JamesRitcheyIII
03-22-2007, 05:01 PM
How can retailers support books that haven't and never will come out? Has Rick found the secret to selling air? WHAT A GENIUS!
Yeah...well...it's kind of air. Rick is bottling his farts, and selling the tanks to Chanel--to pay printing, promotion, Dube, and for the convention. As we all know, from Rick's firsthand information, his farts smell like roses.:D
Blake Petit
03-22-2007, 05:02 PM
Yeah...well...it's kind of air. Rick is bottling his farts, and selling the tanks to Chanel--to pay printing, promotion, Dube, and for the convention. As we all know, from Rick's firsthand information, his farts smell like roses.:D
This post made me throw up a little in my motuh.
wishlish
03-22-2007, 05:07 PM
You missed that? He scammed St Jude's Children's Research Hospital...used their name and logo...without permission. Ran an auction to benefit St Jude's...yet never donated so much as a dime to them.
Rick Olney took money from KIDS WITH CANCER.
http://www.emediawire.com/prfiles/2005/08/29/278433/LukenoBottle.jpg
Rick Olney stole money donated to make this kid better.
"Mommy, why does Rick Olney hate me so much?"
Matt Doc Martin
03-22-2007, 05:11 PM
And while this isn't "Bad News for Rick"...it is "Rub it in Rick's Face" news:
So I contacted McDonald's and relayed the Rick story (condensed, naturally). I said I was signing Happy Meal bags for charity and asked if I could pick some up.
"How many do you want?", they asked, as the manager sent one of the workers out back to get a fresh box of them. I want to repeat that, for it bears repeating.
I told them a brief history of Rick Olney and they did not hesitate one iota to help me.
Look! Rick was wrong AGAIN!
Goos night, pukee!
Sarah Beach
03-22-2007, 05:29 PM
That is very funny and cool, Matt. Heh.
Blake Petit
03-22-2007, 05:31 PM
:LOL:
Happy Meal Justice.
I freaking LOVE it.
Matt Doc Martin
03-22-2007, 05:42 PM
That is very funny and cool, Matt. Heh.
I am sad you won't be at CAPE. Unless you will be at CAPE. In which case, I would be glad.
Either way, I will make sure you get a bag signed WITH my original art!
DocAbsurd
03-22-2007, 05:44 PM
If -- IF -- on the outside chance that he enough bottle returns to scrounge up some pocket change to *file for a ® or ™ on dat Debbil-Bug (amazingly quick, I might note, cuz I was under the impression that it could take upwards of a year to do the trademark research alone); or while he was vacuuming the couch for leftover Dorito pieces he rolled enough pennies to pay Dupe a commission . . .
Wonder what the courts are gonna think about his new-found (albeit temporary) wealth?
Sarah Beach
03-22-2007, 06:09 PM
I am sad you won't be at CAPE. Unless you will be at CAPE. In which case, I would be glad.
Either way, I will make sure you get a bag signed WITH my original art!
Why, thank you kind sir!
No, alas, I won't be at CAPE. Wish I could. But I've already got two trips on my budget for the summer, so (barring a sudden influx of money) I'm stuck in SoCal.
Matt Doc Martin
03-22-2007, 06:11 PM
If -- IF -- on the outside chance that he enough bottle returns to scrounge up some pocket change to *file for a ® or ™ on dat Debbil-Bug (amazingly quick, I might note, cuz I was under the impression that it could take upwards of a year to do the trademark research alone); or while he was vacuuming the couch for leftover Dorito pieces he rolled enough pennies to pay Dupe a commission . . .
Wonder what the courts are gonna think about his new-found (albeit temporary) wealth?
Oh, I am guessing they'd LOVE to hear about it.
Why, I would be shocked if the folks filing new cases against him didn't make copies of all his claims of things he is coming up with.
Sarah Beach
03-22-2007, 06:15 PM
Okay, let's stick to being accurate, gang.
The only circle R symbols on the MMC webpage are those following the "Hot Wheels" name. He hasn't put it on the WhatsisBug. That he only has the copyright symbol - and the TM.
Just thought I'd keep us on the straight and narrow.
Reverend Smooth
03-22-2007, 06:19 PM
It's HARD to break free of the US Vs. THEM mentality that RULED the online small press/indy scene for YEARS. I just want to make comics, mans. x.x
Paul Smith
03-22-2007, 06:19 PM
Ahhh yes Paul... but how many of those socks have holes in them??
HEY! I have a hundred pair of STRETCH SOCKS!!
Paul Smith
03-22-2007, 06:21 PM
a 'Ninja Wank' should be in the fourth auction, along with Gail beating Paul Smith. Volunteers?
HEY! I HAVE A HUNDRED PAIR OF ... aw, crap, I got nuthin'
What the heck, sounds fun and it's for a good cause. :D
Paul Smith
03-22-2007, 06:24 PM
Hey, now, I thought we agreed not to talk about your 'girlfriends!'
Gail
I thought we agreed to leave yo' momma out of this.
And to think I was going to let you beat me up for money. Well, now you'll have to do it for free. You know you want to. Beat me, whip me, tell me that you care.
Paul Smith
03-22-2007, 06:26 PM
Oh yeah, leave Dube alone. Let's keep our eyes on the prize and not on the victim du jour.
NatGertler
03-22-2007, 06:26 PM
If -- IF -- on the outside chance that he enough bottle returns to scrounge up some pocket change to *file for a ® or ™ on dat Debbil-Bug (amazingly quick, I might note, cuz I was under the impression that it could take upwards of a year to do the trademark research alone)Doc: Please listen to me, I'm not making this up:
It does not cost anything to get a TM. That is an unregistered trademark, it does indeed have legal protection in the U.S., (although not as much as an ® does) and it does not require filing anything anywhere.
JamesRitcheyIII
03-22-2007, 06:32 PM
Sherlock gives me warm fuzzies. Is this Nicholas Meyer fellow any good?
Yeah--Meyer is GREAT! A real renaissance man. Besides writing damn good novels--really nails Doyle--and I highly recommend The Seven-per-cent Solution, The West End Horror and The Canary Trainer--he's written and/or directed several very good (a couple of bad) movies--examples where he's done both (and very well) include the film version of The Seven Percent Solution, Time After Time, Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan and The Day After.
What I get nearly as angry about as hearing families losing money, is his complete and utter denial of having done anything wrong.
No matter what, everyone has a choice in whatever they do or will do. Rick's chosen to steal and lie and cheat people out of money for years! He knows he's done the wrong thing! And he still keeps up this ridiculous facade of being a victim and being on the side of the righteous.
He takes no responsibility for anything!
He's not even a smart nemesis. He's just some dumb, unemployed fat person who gets his jollies being a bully. It's impossible to respect someone like that, even if he did end up willingly pay the people he owes.
Preachin' to the Choir!
Comcman
03-22-2007, 06:43 PM
Here is an interesting question. Where does our responsibility lie? Do we help show the other parts of the story? Do we have a moral responsibility to point him at Cesar's story?
Do you drag a horse to water and pray they drink?
No, Danny, I think once he has been shown the info (ie, directed to the Unscrewed site) your (our) responsibility is over. You can't make him read or believe. When he does run into the wall trying to get paid, at least he will have been warned and will know that he is not alone. Although the empty tables or cancellation of the Mighty Mini Pop Culture Con will hopefully be his first clue.
Darediva
03-22-2007, 06:44 PM
did anyone see olney's blurb on his orcafresh myspace, calling himself a "Marine's Marine"?
No, but how dare he.
Matt Doc Martin
03-22-2007, 06:48 PM
No, but how dare he.
No worries...the day is fast approaching where he will be "Orcafresh, an Inmate's Inmate."
Matt Doc Martin
03-22-2007, 06:52 PM
How many MySpace profiles does a person need?
I mean....even Rick Olney only has so many split personalities...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=170897851
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 06:56 PM
How many MySpace profiles does a person need?
I mean....even Rick Olney only has so many split personalities...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=170897851
How can you get people interested in joining your apa if you close membership?
Blake Petit
03-22-2007, 06:57 PM
Who put the bomp in the bomp-sha-bomp-sha-bomp?
Some questions will never be answered.
Matt Doc Martin
03-22-2007, 06:58 PM
How can you get people interested in joining your apa if you close membership?
Since when has anything Rick Olney done made sense?
Rick Olney is insane. And a thief. And a liar.
And those are his BETTER qualities.
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 07:02 PM
Hey if Rick can be considered a Marine just because he knows what the USMC logo looks like can I be considered a member of the Green Lantern Corps because I still have my glow in the dark GL ring that came from my old Super-Powers Hal Jordan figure from back in the day? :p
Blake Petit
03-22-2007, 07:15 PM
Dude.
By that criteria, I'm a Green Lantern, a Legionnaire and a Flash!
I'm AWESOME.
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 07:16 PM
Hey if Rick can be considered a Marine just because he knows what the USMC logo looks like can I be considered a member of the Green Lantern Corps because I still have my glow in the dark GL ring that came from my old Super-Powers Hal Jordan figure from back in the day? :p
Hmmmmm.... my figure didn't have a power ring included... but yeah, I DO still have that figure. Ummmmm... it's for reference... I swear!!! Just like all the rest of them. (Yeah, you saw them in the studio pics... I confess, I got caught up in the buying frenzy back in the day).
I also still have all the various "attachment" hands for Cyborg as well. HA!
And to answer your question Danny, yes, you are indeed a GL... sector.. ummmm... Sector YABS!
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 07:17 PM
Dude.
By that criteria, I'm a Green Lantern, a Legionnaire and a Flash!
I'm AWESOME.
I am also a Green Lantern, Legionaire, Flash, a member of the Sinestro Corps, and a Wolverine (Secret Wars toys back in the 80s, and Wolverine's removable mask/ring from the Toy Biz 1990 line.)
:p
KevinTBrown
03-22-2007, 07:18 PM
Dude.
By that criteria, I'm a Green Lantern, a Legionnaire and a Flash!
I'm AWESOME.
He's....... AWESOME MAN!
:rolleyes:
Blake Petit
03-22-2007, 07:27 PM
I am also a Green Lantern, Legionaire, Flash, a member of the Sinestro Corps, and a Wolverine (Secret Wars toys back in the 80s, and Wolverine's removable mask/ring from the Toy Biz 1990 line.)
:p
Oh yeah? I've also got my JLA and Avengers membership cards, AND (if my parents still have that box with the mask I got for Christmas when I was ten years old) I'm Optimus Prime.
Jamie Coville
03-22-2007, 07:45 PM
Well today I went to the store and bought brand new very cool Batman, Superman, Flash and Green Lantern T-Shirts. I kick all yo asses dawg!
OzBat!
03-22-2007, 07:54 PM
Huh. That new myspace profile lists his age as 73. Maybe he has alzheimers?
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 08:02 PM
Huh. That new myspace profile lists his age as 73. Maybe he has alzheimers?
He's getting younger!
His MCVN one listed him as 87!
G-Spot
03-22-2007, 08:19 PM
Whoever is running the UnScrewed site...I screwed up.
I saw the "Submit Story" button and mistakenly posted my Anthology submission on the site's front page.
I feel like such a stupid ass!
If whoever runs the site can delete it, and email me the info on who/where I need to correctly submit to, I would appreciate it!
Thanks!
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming!
Inkpot1965
03-22-2007, 08:20 PM
Who put the bomp in the bomp-sha-bomp-sha-bomp?
Some questions will never be answered.
Wasn't that Charro? Koochie-koochie-COO!
Inkpot1965
03-22-2007, 08:22 PM
Dude.
By that criteria, I'm a Green Lantern, a Legionnaire and a Flash!
I'm AWESOME.
By those standards, I'm related to Barry Windsor-Smith, cause I used to use a Windsor-Newton brush.
TheWraith
03-22-2007, 08:33 PM
Hmmmmm.... my figure didn't have a power ring included... but yeah, I DO still have that figure. Ummmmm... it's for reference... I swear!!! Just like all the rest of them. (Yeah, you saw them in the studio pics... I confess, I got caught up in the buying frenzy back in the day).
I also still have all the various "attachment" hands for Cyborg as well. HA!
And to answer your question Danny, yes, you are indeed a GL... sector.. ummmm... Sector YABS!
I've still got all my Super Powers figures, in pristine condition, of course :D Plus I've got a Wraith bust and a Wraith action figure that's correctly painted :D :p
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 08:38 PM
I've still got all my Super Powers figures, in pristine condition, of course :D Plus I've got a Wraith bust and a Wraith action figure that's correctly painted :D :p
Awesome! Frank I was just gonna e-mail you.. Is it okay to use JT's Wraith art for our unscrewed ads?
Whoever is running the UnScrewed site...I screwed up.
I saw the "Submit Story" button and mistakenly posted my Anthology submission on the site's front page.
I feel like such a stupid ass!
If whoever runs the site can delete it, and email me the info on who/where I need to correctly submit to, I would appreciate it!
Thanks!
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming!
PM Shelly, or Mac. they'll fix it.
G-Spot
03-22-2007, 08:41 PM
Thanks Danny!
I saw the "Bugs/Tech Problems" link after this, and emailed both.
Again, sorry for the mix-up. I'll blame it on it being late, me being tired, and me being an idiot! :D
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 08:56 PM
I've still got all my Super Powers figures, in pristine condition, of course :D Plus I've got a Wraith bust and a Wraith action figure that's correctly painted :D :p
That's OK Frank, being color blind, I don't notice the subtle differences. LOL! Besides... I had mine first! Ha!
Wraith bust and action figures... designed by me!!! (I'm flattered Frank asked me to do it too!! Thanks Frank!)
DarrenCawsey
03-22-2007, 09:09 PM
Just because it's been a slow day, and I've had nothing better to do:
I've been a victim at times during my life. I used to hold the door for elderly people until I got tired of being ignored or got that look that made me think it was MY JOB.
WTF? God Rick, you're so persecuted and unappreciated aren't you.
Rick Olney is the founder of ORCA, the ORComx APA, the executive director of ORCA, the man who reaches out to comic fans... gee, I guess it would be easier to say what Rick is not. Oh, well just know that he's important.
Just noticed this is the introduction to Rick's blather on the ORComx APA site. Check it out... important, Geeeezus.
I decided to call this written space BALL OF FIRE because that's what I am. Every place I've been has either felt the heat of criticism or the warmth of kindness. I don't consider myself very important in the framework of the comic book industry or fandom in general. I do think however, that I set a good example as a person. At least if I have faults, they're the kind that are specific to me as a person. Gee, ... pretty deep stuff to think about huh?
No not that deep at all. You have faults, plenty of them, and are not, in any way, at all, important in the framework of the comic book industry or fandom (except maybe as example of what not to be).
Back on May 11, 1996 when ORCA had its first ORCon. We were fortunate to have Dick Ayers and his wife Lindy here as guests.
This ORCon he mentions, has anyone looked into adding this convention into the Olney chronology? I'm not sure if it fits or not as I don't remember hearing any horror stories in regards to it, but hey just checking.
You know... we really don't have enough violence in society anymore. I mean, whatever became of the good old afshioned ass beating one person would give another for spreading rumors or saying incorrect and mean spirited things and claiming they were words of truth
What is that I hear? Could it be the sound of Irony imploding under its own weight? Quick! Flee! Before you are sucked into the new Super-Massive Black Hole of Irony and are spat out into a strange Bizarro Olney-verse, filled with talking fish and blatant rip-offs of established comic characters, but without a single Mexican or Liberal.
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JeffreyWKramer
03-22-2007, 09:13 PM
I want to know what ever happened to the good old days when liars and those that won't pay their debts got their asses kicked and their kneecaps broken.
CutterMike
03-22-2007, 09:15 PM
Maybe it will get him into Marquis' Who's Who in America.
Twice.
Yes; with any luck, someday when someone speaks the name "Rick Olney", the response will be: "Who? Who?!!?"
Flamebird
03-22-2007, 09:15 PM
did anyone see olney's blurb on his orcafresh myspace, calling himself a "Marine's Marine"?
I thought that was only when he was "on his back". :eek:
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 09:19 PM
did anyone see olney's blurb on his orcafresh myspace, calling himself a "Marine's Marine"?
Which would be akin to Liberace saying he was a real "Man's Man".... I guess.
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 09:22 PM
Every good villain needs a good theme song, don't they?
Rick's would be "A boy named "Sue" (you and you and you)"....
(credit for this joke goes to Jeff "Inkpot" Austin... I just liked how it sounded)
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick once again as founder of ORComx APA
Back on May 11, 1996 when ORCA had its first ORCon. We were fortunate to have Dick Ayers and his wife Lindy here as guests.
This ORCon he mentions, has anyone looked into adding this convention into the Olney chronology? I'm not sure if it fits or not as I don't remember hearing any horror stories in regards to it, but hey just checking.
Jeepers. You know Dick once did a cover to a project I worked on, (a western) does that mean he adopted me? :p Am I an Ayers heir?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick on the ComicGenesis forums
You know... we really don't have enough violence in society anymore. I mean, whatever became of the good old afshioned ass beating one person would give another for spreading rumors or saying incorrect and mean spirited things and claiming they were words of truth
What is that I hear? Could it be the sound of Irony imploding under its own weight? Quick! Flee! Before you are sucked into the new Super-Massive Black Hole of Irony and are spat out into a strange Bizarro Olney-verse, filled with talking fish and blatant rip-offs of established comic characters, but without a single Mexican or Liberal.
OH MY GOD, if we still had "old west justice" that man would be tied to a cactus and beaten to death long ago.
Again he doesn't realize that "justice" works 2 ways. Not just against people that upset YOU.
CutterMike
03-22-2007, 09:25 PM
HEY! I have a hundred pair of STRETCH SOCKS!!
Okay, I've gotta ask:
How many people here (besides me) actually remember the "Hundred Pairs of Stretch Socks" exchange?
Damn... Now I'm going to have find some time to go and see if any of my old copies of NBE have survived storage...
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 09:26 PM
Which would be akin to Liberace saying he was a real "Man's Man".... I guess.
Quit being mean to Liberace!
He was neck deep in showgirls. :p
They went shopping all the time and sometimes he did their hair.
generaljackcosmo
03-22-2007, 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by Rick on the ComicGenesis forums
You know... we really don't have enough violence in society anymore. I mean, whatever became of the good old afshioned ass beating one person would give another for spreading rumors or saying incorrect and mean spirited things and claiming they were words of truth
Unghhhh!!! This guy is such a shit-talking pussy that it is driving me INSANE. I want to kick this guy's ass so bad it hurts. This fat fuck is the most ridiculous kind of asshole...he is SO lucky he hasn't gotten his ass kicked already. It's to the point now where I KNOW he would never dare to accept my challenge for WW Chicago...but I just want so badly to see how this bullying, small-minded, racist, homophobic piece of shit would actually react if someone were to start beating the shit out of him.
I'd be willing to bet good money that he would cry.
Just curl up into the fetal position and begin to cry like the little pussy bitch that he is.
I've just...I haven't heard this much shit-talking since the drunken fraternity days of college...it is unreal.
He posts this kind of shit everywhere, and I offer him a perfectly reasonable chance to prove what a badass he is AND offer to make it a charity event since he is SO into giving to charity, and he acts like there's something wrong with ME for publicly discussing my desire to fight him.
Rick, you miserable shit-talking bitch, I hope you're reading this right now...because I swear in the name of all that is holy, come hell or high water I will kick your ass someday. Mark my words.
CutterMike
03-22-2007, 09:31 PM
Dude.
By that criteria, I'm a Green Lantern, a Legionnaire and a Flash!
I'm AWESOME.
You want to watch that... They'll arrest you for Flashring.
Inkpot1965
03-22-2007, 09:44 PM
I've heard a rumor that Rick is actually the son of Frederick Wertham. That would explain so much.:D
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 09:45 PM
I've heard a rumor that Rick is actually the son of Frederick Wertham. That would explain so much.:D
Oh no... Bill Gaines just flipped over in his grave!
Flamebird
03-22-2007, 09:55 PM
How many MySpace profiles does a person need?
I mean....even Rick Olney only has so many split personalities...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=170897851
He's 73, now?
Think we're making him age prematurely? :evilsmile
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 09:57 PM
Unghhhh!!! This guy is such a shit-talking pussy that it is driving me INSANE. I want to kick this guy's ass so bad it hurts. This fat fuck is the most ridiculous kind of asshole...he is SO lucky he hasn't gotten his ass kicked already. It's to the point now where I KNOW he would never dare to accept my challenge for WW Chicago...but I just want so badly to see how this bullying, small-minded, racist, homophobic piece of shit would actually react if someone were to start beating the shit out of him.
THEMS FIGHTIN' WORDS!!!!!
hmmm.. actually thems is fightin' words...
as you were then. :p
Kurt Busiek
03-22-2007, 10:05 PM
Okay, I've gotta ask:
How many people here (besides me) actually remember the "Hundred Pairs of Stretch Socks" exchange?
Damn... Now I'm going to have find some time to go and see if any of my old copies of NBE have survived storage...
"I'm the boss of my own entire country!"
kdb
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 10:05 PM
HOLY GOD JAMES!
http://cgi.ebay.com/One-of-a-kind-item-Custom-art-by-James-Owen_W0QQitemZ180098419108QQcategoryZ972QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
$510.99!!!
For a commission!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And not even near over yet! That is just insane. You rock so freakin hard. :p How does it feel to outsell Scott Shaw! ?
:p
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 10:09 PM
HOLY GOD JAMES!
http://cgi.ebay.com/One-of-a-kind-item-Custom-art-by-James-Owen_W0QQitemZ180098419108QQcategoryZ972QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
$510.99!!!
For a commission!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And not even near over yet! That is just insane. You rock so freakin hard. :p How does it feel to outsell Scott Shaw! ?
:p
Yeouch. For that sort of bid, it's probably going to be one HELL of a request image.
"Ummmmmm... Draw every comic's character that's ever existed..."
TonyIsabella
03-22-2007, 10:12 PM
Okay, I've gotta ask:
How many people here (besides me) actually remember the "Hundred Pairs of Stretch Socks" exchange?
Damn... Now I'm going to have find some time to go and see if any of my old copies of NBE have survived storage...
I remember. I bought Not Brand Echh #1 off the stands. By that time, I was buying every comic book that Marvel published.
Tony
generaljackcosmo
03-22-2007, 10:13 PM
Seriously, though, who talks that much shit? Every other post I read is "...you just come to (fill in the blank) and I'll give you a big surprise..." or "...being a Marine, I know how to handle myself..." or "...one of these days you're going to get your ass handed to you..."
Yet, when I challenge him to a fight at WW Chicago, a major convention that an important guy like him should be attending anyway, he totally changes his tune. All of a sudden he's Johnny Too-Good-For-This.
Rick, if you're listening, how about this:
Come to WW Chicago and fight me. I am so confident that I will beat your ass, I will agree to pay all the debts you have to the creators here if you win. I don't know how the fuck I'd do that, but I will find a way if you are able to take me out. BUT...this is not going to be some kind of boxing match; this is going to be an MMA fight that follows IFL rules. So you'd better be ready to get choked the fuck out.
TomStillwell
03-22-2007, 10:17 PM
HOLY GOD JAMES!
http://cgi.ebay.com/One-of-a-kind-item-Custom-art-by-James-Owen_W0QQitemZ180098419108QQcategoryZ972QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
$510.99!!!
For a commission!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And not even near over yet! That is just insane. You rock so freakin hard. :p How does it feel to outsell Scott Shaw! ?
:p
And the really really cool part? That bid came from a person who has already spent money in the last auction. All the way from Canada.
See that, Rick? People in other countries have your number too. Sweden, Mexico, Canada, USA...internationally known as a fraud, liar, con man, coward, bully, and thief.
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 10:19 PM
Seriously, though, who talks that much shit? Every other post I read is "...you just come to (fill in the blank) and I'll give you a big surprise..." or "...being a Marine, I know how to handle myself..." or "...one of these days you're going to get your ass handed to you..."
Yet, when I challenge him to a fight at WW Chicago, a major convention that an important guy like him should be attending anyway, he totally changes his tune. All of a sudden he's Johnny Too-Good-For-This.
Rick, if you're listening, how about this:
Come to WW Chicago and fight me. I am so confident that I will beat your ass, I will agree to pay all the debts you have to the creators here if you win. I don't know how the fuck I'd do that, but I will find a way if you are able to take me out. BUT...this is not going to be some kind of boxing match; this is going to be an MMA fight that follows IFL rules. So you'd better be ready to get choked the fuck out.
OH MY GAWWWWWWWWWD!
Oh, sorry, MMA, I suppose my Joey Styles impression doesn't work there does it?
But seriously, what is gained by this? You beat up an old man, it doesn't prove much. He lashes out because he's not smart enough to do anything else. There's no way he'd ever get into a physical confrontation with anyone.
TomStillwell
03-22-2007, 10:20 PM
Yeouch. For that sort of bid, it's probably going to be one HELL of a request image.
"Ummmmmm... Draw every comic's character that's ever existed..."
"Draw the face of God. I want it realistic too."
G-Spot
03-22-2007, 10:20 PM
HOLY GOD JAMES!
http://cgi.ebay.com/One-of-a-kind-item-Custom-art-by-James-Owen_W0QQitemZ180098419108QQcategoryZ972QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
$510.99!!!
For a commission!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And not even near over yet! That is just insane. You rock so freakin hard. :p How does it feel to outsell Scott Shaw! ?
:p
I really wanted to bid on that one, but money's tight for us right now, and we have Pitt-Con coming fast.
Whoever winds up winning that is going to get a tremendous piece of art!!!
And whoever wnds up winning that, should be heartily heralded for their winning bid!!!
And lets not forget James Owen for offering such a unique prize!!!
Kudos to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flamebird
03-22-2007, 10:21 PM
I remember. I bought Not Brand Echh #1 off the stands. By that time, I was buying every comic book that Marvel published.
Tony
Can I pretend I'm too young to remember it?
Probably not since I think I still have it around here somewhere. :(
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 10:21 PM
Seriously, though, who talks that much shit? Every other post I read is "...you just come to (fill in the blank) and I'll give you a big surprise..." or "...being a Marine, I know how to handle myself..." or "...one of these days you're going to get your ass handed to you..."
Yet, when I challenge him to a fight at WW Chicago, a major convention that an important guy like him should be attending anyway, he totally changes his tune. All of a sudden he's Johnny Too-Good-For-This.
Rick, if you're listening, how about this:
Come to WW Chicago and fight me. I am so confident that I will beat your ass, I will agree to pay all the debts you have to the creators here if you win. I don't know how the fuck I'd do that, but I will find a way if you are able to take me out. BUT...this is not going to be some kind of boxing match; this is going to be an MMA fight that follows IFL rules. So you'd better be ready to get choked the fuck out.
Personally I'd laugh my ass completely off if it were found out that Gen Jack here is in reality, Bill Goldberg, and just a closet comics nut. Then I'd definitely pay to watch that match!!!
(But I could be wrong)...
Flamebird
03-22-2007, 10:25 PM
And the really really cool part? That bid came from a person who has already spent money in the last auction. All the way from Canada.
See that, Rick? People in other countries have your number too. Sweden, Mexico, Canada, USA...internationally known as a fraud, liar, con man, coward, bully, and thief.
Think He'd be upset if I bid $511.00?
Just to jack the price up?
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 10:25 PM
"Draw the face of God. I want it realistic too."
And painted.
Gail Simone
03-22-2007, 10:26 PM
Gen, we all feel a lot of disgust at Rick's tough guy act, but again, when I saw him, he looked like he was going to throw up after a short set of stairs. It's true...I thought he was going to have a heart attack on the spot, and we went out and helped unload boxes ourselves so he wouldn't keel over and die.
If you can stand without falling over for twenty minutes, Rick wouldn't be much of a challenge for you.
But I again ask...PLEASE. Calling Rick out to a fair fight in a boxing ring is fair game. The guy did it himself a few years back.
But no other threats of violence will be allowed here, please, of any kind, even as jokes.
It's just not what this is about.
Thank you.
Gail
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 10:26 PM
Personally I'd laugh my ass completely off if it were found out that Gen Jack here is in reality, Bill Goldberg, and just a closet comics nut. Then I'd definitely pay to watch that match!!!
(But I could be wrong)...
Jack's too young to be Bill.
But it's not that strange a thought, I mean look at RVD, Gregory ("The Huricane") Helms, Raven, etc...
Lotta them types are big into funnybooks.
TomStillwell
03-22-2007, 10:28 PM
Think He'd be upset if I bid $511.00?
Just to jack the price up?
She might be.
But I'm guessing that the bidding is a long way from over. We just put the press release out tonight. Everything so far is net word of mouth.
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 10:29 PM
And the really really cool part? That bid came from a person who has already spent money in the last auction. All the way from Canada.
See that, Rick? People in other countries have your number too. Sweden, Mexico, Canada, USA...internationally known as a fraud, liar, con man, coward, bully, and thief.
Psht. Everyone knows Canada isn't a real country. It's like America's suburbs. :p
Just kidding Joanne. Don't send Jazz and Soundwave to kick my arse. :p
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 10:29 PM
Jack's too young to be Bill.
But it's not that strange a thought, I mean look at RVD, Gregory ("The Huricane") Helms, Raven, etc...
Lotta them types are big into funnybooks.
Yeah, I'm not familiar with all the wrestlers who ARE actually fans of the comics medium... but I knew that there were a few (Helms especially... a guy with a GL tattoo can't be all that bad... no matter how much he's getting over better as a heel).
I was just intimating... it would be hilarious if it were such a situation.
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 10:30 PM
Psht. Everyone knows Canada isn't a real country. It's like America's suburbs. :p
Just kidding Joanne. Don't send Jazz and Soundwave to kick my arse. :p
Hey, stop being mean to Canada... without them... we wouldn't have... umm... we wouldn't have....
OK, be mean to Canada.
generaljackcosmo
03-22-2007, 10:32 PM
Well, I am certainly not Bill Goldberg, nor RVD, Nate "Rock" Quarry or any other well-known comic-lovin' badass.
I'm just a guy who knows some people that this dick screwed over, including Dave Rothe, who has done some great lettering work for me (paid, of course) and will hopefully be doing more in the very near future.
I also hate people who threaten and talk endless amounts of shit...and then run away with their tails between their legs when confronted with a real challenge. Bullies, I think they're called.
Also, I know jiujitsu and karate.
As far as him being an old man, and obscenely out of shape...he should think about these things before shooting off his mouth with such wanton abandon.
But I will pipe down a bit at the request of our host.:o
Reverend Smooth
03-22-2007, 10:32 PM
There's no way he'd ever get into a physical confrontation with anyone.Olney can put up, or shut up, seems to be the reasoning.
Cam63
03-22-2007, 10:33 PM
Psht. Everyone knows Canada isn't a real country. It's like America's suburbs. :p
Just kidding Joanne. Don't send Jazz and Soundwave to kick my arse. :p
My youngest sister spent some time near Vancouver ten years ago.
Pretty country, but she nearly drowned with the rain.
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 10:34 PM
Yeah, I'm not familiar with all the wrestlers who ARE actually fans of the comics medium... but I knew that there were a few (Helms especially... a guy with a GL tattoo can't be all that bad... no matter how much he's getting over better as a heel).
I was just intimating... it would be hilarious if it were such a situation.
I have to admit I miss "The Huricane"... They haven't really done Jack all with him since then.
Raven is a big fan, (real name Scott Levy) he actually wrote a story for Spider-man's Tangled Web about the wrestler Spidey fought in Amazing Fantasy #15.
Paul London is a comic geek as well check it out:
http://www.geekscape.net/v/geekscape/10
Cam63
03-22-2007, 10:35 PM
Hey, stop being mean to Canada... without them... we wouldn't have... umm... we wouldn't have....
OK, be mean to Canada.
We have taipans and funnelwebs, so HA !
...Umm, I wanna move.
Danny Donovan
03-22-2007, 10:39 PM
We have taipans and funnelwebs, so HA !
...Umm, I wanna move.
You also had Paul Hogan Yahoo Serious and Natalie Imbruglia....
Ok, perhaps you should move.
But hey at least you're not New Zealand. That place is lousy with Hobbits. You know how badly you have to fumagate the place before you get them all?
Cam63
03-22-2007, 10:41 PM
Hobbits may be irritating, but they're not toxic.
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 10:43 PM
We have taipans and funnelwebs, so HA !
...Umm, I wanna move.
Funnelwebs? What in the hell are those? Sounds like something you get in a box of Cracker Jacks? "Now with Funnel Webs for a prize!"
Tegan
03-22-2007, 10:44 PM
Hobbits may be irritating, but they're not toxic.
How do you know? Have you ever eaten one?
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 10:44 PM
Hobbits may be irritating, but they're not toxic.
No, they're damn annoying when you have to watch two of them make googly eyes at each other through a movie. I was just waiting for a "Brokeback Mountain" moment between Sam and Frodo. *sigh*
DarrenCawsey
03-22-2007, 10:53 PM
You also had Paul Hogan Yahoo Serious and Natalie Imbruglia....
Ok, perhaps you should move.
But hey at least you're not New Zealand. That place is lousy with Hobbits. You know how badly you have to fumagate the place before you get them all?
Actually we imported most of them from England and then shipped them back again once we were done with them.
Far too annoying to keep around -always frolicking about; getting underfoot when passed out drunk, Bleh.
We have enough problems with genetically engineered killer Sheep*.
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*(if you get a chance, go see 'Black Sheep', because 'Black Sheep' = awesome)
Cam63
03-22-2007, 10:55 PM
How do you know? Have you ever eaten one?
They taste like irritating chicken.
Inkpot1965
03-22-2007, 10:57 PM
How do you know? Have you ever eaten one?
Young lady, go wait in the tardis.
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 11:08 PM
We have taipans and funnelwebs, so HA !
...Umm, I wanna move.
OK, I just googled funnel webs... ummmmmmmm... you can keep 'em.
With those around, why aren't seeing "FunnelWeb! When spiders bite" type movies... those suckers look pretty nasty!!!
DaveRothe
03-22-2007, 11:13 PM
Well, I am certainly not Bill Goldberg, nor RVD, Nate "Rock" Quarry or any other well-known comic-lovin' badass.
I'm just a guy who knows some people that this dick screwed over, including Dave Rothe, who has done some great lettering work for me (paid, of course) and will hopefully be doing more in the very near future.
I also hate people who threaten and talk endless amounts of shit...and then run away with their tails between their legs when confronted with a real challenge. Bullies, I think they're called.
Also, I know jiujitsu and karate.
As far as him being an old man, and obscenely out of shape...he should think about these things before shooting off his mouth with such wanton abandon.
But I will pipe down a bit at the request of our host.:o
Jack's heart is in the right place Gail. I'll admit after I heard he was stealing from kids dying of cancer I had to bite my tongue and control my anger. That had to be one of Orcy's all time lows. But we'll defeat him civil like Jack. As someone said earlier (forgive the old man memory) he poisons everything he touches. Our mission is to keep him from touching anything other than himself.
Koben Kelly
03-22-2007, 11:19 PM
It was easy to ignor a warning about rick when there was no evidence to look at. But if you Ignor this thread, and ignor the Unscrewed site, and ignor Tony Isabella's warnings, and ignor everywhere ELSE that's reported on this, then you do indeed deserve whatever is coming. .
Sorry to be such a grammar Nazi... truly I am... so, please don't think me an asshole... but, it has to be stated:
Ignore. I-G-N-O-R-E. We can't really make fun of Rick's incomprehension of the language if we mangle it ourselves.
Sorry.:(
CutterMike
03-22-2007, 11:28 PM
I remember. I bought Not Brand Echh #1 off the stands. By that time, I was buying every comic book that Marvel published.
Tony
Fortunately, that was significantly EASIER, back in the day... For all you kids out there, there used to be ONE Spider-man title, ONE X-Men title, and Captain America and Iron Man each had half of a book every month, as did Dr. Strange and Nick Fury.
(Man THAT was the one that I looked forward to more than anything - getting art by Dan Adkins and Jim Steranko in the SAME FRICKIN' BOOK was awesome... It was a comics textbook every month with Adkin's beautiful, subtle, drawings, followed up with Steranko's... STERANKONESS!!)
MacQuarrie
03-22-2007, 11:31 PM
Didn't Macquarrie have his lawyer send him something awhile back and he backed off for a few days ?
I sent him a certified letter with return receipt informing him that I am the registered owner of the unscrewed comics domain, that Unscrewed is a trademark in use by the website, and that if he did not immediately cease from using it in reference to his own convention, I would sic my very real attorney on him.
Of course, I also told him that if I did not receive an affirmative response from him by March 23, I'd move forward with prosecution. I better prepare the dogs of war, because I haven't heard from him.
generaljackcosmo
03-22-2007, 11:34 PM
Jack's heart is in the right place Gail. I'll admit after I heard he was stealing from kids dying of cancer I had to bite my tongue and control my anger. That had to be one of Orcy's all time lows. But we'll defeat him civil like Jack. As someone said earlier (forgive the old man memory) he poisons everything he touches. Our mission is to keep him from touching anything other than himself.
This one is just...too much. It elevates his criminal behavior to new heights. Or, rather, lowers it to new depths.
But I'll play nice. At least at YABS.
But, seriously, fuck that guy.
JTPencils
03-22-2007, 11:36 PM
I sent him a certified letter with return receipt informing him that I am the registered owner of the unscrewed comics domain, that Unscrewed is a trademark in use by the website, and that if he did not immediately cease from using it in reference to his own convention, I would sic my very real attorney on him.
Of course, I also told him that if I did not receive an affirmative response from him by March 23, I'd move forward with prosecution. I better prepare the dogs of war, because I haven't heard from him.
And most likely won't either. How often has he promised, threatened, or outright lied about what he's going to do next... to immediately not follow up? So... unleash them puppies!!!
Larry Dixon
03-22-2007, 11:43 PM
I would happily bid on James' artwork, and so many other items in the auctions, but Misty & I have ALREADY given away all our discretionary income for the quarter to Olney's Orphans! *laugh* Besides... I look at it philosophically... we have been fortunate enough to befriend so many of the people donating such wonderful things, that we can possibly get something nice for ourselves in the future once all the immediate Unscrewed/OO needs have been handled. I did have a big grin when I saw the graphic novel that Kurt B put in---because Misty gave me one of those for Christmas this year.
Oh but yes, about James' art, Misty & I have been to Coppervale and seen his originals in person, and whoever gets that commission will definitely get something wonderful. In a Sir Arthur C. Clark "...something wonderful..." kind of way.
MacQuarrie
03-22-2007, 11:47 PM
I sent a note of my own to Jason Dube on March 15. He never replied. I assume he forwarded it to Olney.
Here's what I said:
Do you know what you're getting into?
I saw that you're listed as a guest at the 2007 Mighty Mini-Con, and are collaborating with Rick Olney on a project. As an interested observer, I feel I must repeat the warnings you have no doubt already received.
Rick lies. He cheats people, he makes false promises he has no intention of keeping. Everybody who has ever worked with him or interacted with him in any capacity has walked away with a story about having been cheated, insulted, abused, manipulated or otherwise exploited. He has recently lost at least three lawsuits for non-payment, and has many more cases pending. Best estimates are that he owes between $60,000 and $100,000 to various artists, vendors, retailers, exhibitors, and so on. He is under investigation by the State Attorney General's office for falsely misrepresenting his convention's auction as a benefit for St. Jude's Children's Hospital, which has never heard of him. He has accepted valuable donations for his benefit auctions, then when the event was canceled, did not return the items or give them to the charity in question. On those rare occasions when an auction actually took place, the beneficiaries never received any donation from him. That's right, Rick Olney steals money from children with cancer.
He's not only a thief, he's nuts. If you go to http://www.unscrewedcomic.com and look in the gallery, you will find an archive of his irrational outbursts from Gail Simone's message forum, along with examples of him being caught in outright lies on a variety of subjects, examples of his racism, sexism, and homophobia.
Even if by some miracle, Olney doesn't cheat you, association with him can only harm your professional career.
But don't believe me. Ask Gail Simone, Chuck Dixon, Scott Shaw!, Kurt Busiek, Mark Waid, Drew Geraci, Heidi MacDonald, Tony Isabella, or, well, anyone who has ever spoken to the guy.
Anyway, at least now you know what you're getting into. Good luck.
Jim MacQuarrie
d newton
03-22-2007, 11:49 PM
They taste like irritating chicken.
No, they're darn annoying when you have to watch two of them make googly eyes at each other through a movie. I was just waiting for a "Brokeback Mountain" moment between Sam and Frodo.
Hobbits may be irritating, but they're not toxic.
I proclaim this week to be called "Be Nice to Hobbits" week! :D I'll send a mutated sheep after anyone who isn't nice to them!
MacQuarrie
03-22-2007, 11:51 PM
If -- IF -- on the outside chance that he enough bottle returns to scrounge up some pocket change to *file for a ® or ™ on dat Debbil-Bug (amazingly quick, I might note, cuz I was under the impression that it could take upwards of a year to do the trademark research alone); or while he was vacuuming the couch for leftover Dorito pieces he rolled enough pennies to pay Dupe a commission . . .
Wonder what the courts are gonna think about his new-found (albeit temporary) wealth?
The ® costs; the ™ is free. © is also free, unless you want to register it.
SUPERECWFAN1
03-23-2007, 12:01 AM
I sent him a certified letter with return receipt informing him that I am the registered owner of the unscrewed comics domain, that Unscrewed is a trademark in use by the website, and that if he did not immediately cease from using it in reference to his own convention, I would sic my very real attorney on him.
Of course, I also told him that if I did not receive an affirmative response from him by March 23, I'd move forward with prosecution. I better prepare the dogs of war, because I haven't heard from him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuNO3eFgvhc
UNLEASH HELL !
:D
DaveRothe
03-23-2007, 12:03 AM
The ® costs; the ™ is free. © is also free, unless you want to register it.
Yeah registering a copyright costs a flat fee (it was $20-25 in 1997 but much more now I'm sure) with the Library of Congress in Washington D.C. I believe it's Form VA for Visual Arts if memory serves correct. It took me like a half a year to a year to get that done. They're very specific on their forms. Any slight correction needing to be made takes even more time.
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 12:05 AM
What I think everytime Rick goes on one of his rants:
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20040515.jpg
Makes as much sense as anything he says.
Joshua Pantalleresco
03-23-2007, 12:12 AM
Oh but yes, about James' art, Misty & I have been to Coppervale and seen his originals in person, and whoever gets that commission will definitely get something wonderful. In a Sir Arthur C. Clark "...something wonderful..." kind of way.
I second this. I saw Jame's posters he had with him at the Phoenix Con. He has one with EVERY character in his Starchild comic (including Little Neil :D ) and it's just awesome. He can definitely do a JLA/Avengers cover if need be.
This is an awesome one of a kind item. Actually, quite a lot of things in this are. Bid already!
JP
Larry Dixon
03-23-2007, 12:21 AM
At the beginning, I was thinking of doing pretty much the same thing that James is doing, except I didn't figure there'd be a whole bunch of publishers rushing in to bid on a discount Larry Dixon cover painting to their specs. :)
Reverend Smooth
03-23-2007, 12:24 AM
At the beginning, I was thinking of doing pretty much the same thing that James is doing, except I didn't figure there'd be a whole bunch of publishers rushing in to bid on a discount Larry Dixon cover painting to their specs. :)I think a lot of people would love that opportunity, actually. XD
Larry Dixon
03-23-2007, 12:29 AM
I'm only doing 2 to 6 covers a year these days, so it'd be rare enough! *big laugh*
DaveRothe
03-23-2007, 12:30 AM
At the beginning, I was thinking of doing pretty much the same thing that James is doing, except I didn't figure there'd be a whole bunch of publishers rushing in to bid on a discount Larry Dixon cover painting to their specs. :)
You can doo eet, Larry!:D
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 12:32 AM
I'm only doing 2 to 6 covers a year these days, so it'd be rare enough! *big laugh*
Remember this isn't just for publishers, but any fan who wants an original piece just for them. Or even a retailer that could use that one conversation piece hanging on his shop wall.
"Yep. Larry Dixon drew Supergirl mudwrestling She-Hulk for me... Now stop oggling and buy my stuff." :p
Joshua Pantalleresco
03-23-2007, 12:59 AM
At the beginning, I was thinking of doing pretty much the same thing that James is doing, except I didn't figure there'd be a whole bunch of publishers rushing in to bid on a discount Larry Dixon cover painting to their specs. :)
You should. Your covers are amazing. And guys, don't let Larry tell you differently. Check out any Mercedes Lackey book at your local Borders. Larry does the covers. They are amazing.
People would bid for it. I would, if I could.
JP
the4thpip
03-23-2007, 02:02 AM
Huh. That new myspace profile lists his age as 73. Maybe he has alzheimers?
You get more porn site gals to friend you when you pretend to be a dirty old man.
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 02:05 AM
You get more porn site gals to friend you when you pretend to be a dirty old man.
You too many when you're a 26 year old who's hobbies include comics...
>_<
So much of my time upon logging in to check my mail is deleting those requests. :p
I may be desperate and lonely but I don't advertise it!
Oh crap, I said the quiet part loud again didn't I?
:p
Koben Kelly
03-23-2007, 02:56 AM
...desperate and lonely...
:p
Danny, you have many friends here, and they believe in what you do. There's no need for you to feel that way.
Those two adjectives are applied much more appropriately to OKRA-boy.
Blake Petit
03-23-2007, 05:07 AM
You too many when you're a 26 year old who's hobbies include comics...
>_<
So much of my time upon logging in to check my mail is deleting those requests. :p
I may be desperate and lonely but I don't advertise it!
Oh crap, I said the quiet part loud again didn't I?
:p
Shouldn't that be "hobbies and business", Danny?
Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 05:13 AM
HOLY GOD JAMES!
http://cgi.ebay.com/One-of-a-kind-item-Custom-art-by-James-Owen_W0QQitemZ180098419108QQcategoryZ972QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
$510.99!!!
For a commission!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And not even near over yet! That is just insane. You rock so freakin hard. :p How does it feel to outsell Scott Shaw! ?
:p
Yeouch. For that sort of bid, it's probably going to be one HELL of a request image.
"Ummmmmm... Draw every comic's character that's ever existed..."
Seems only fair when my offering is stalled at a paltry $31...
http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Golems-Mighty-Swing-signed-by-James-Sturm_W0QQitemZ180098507189QQcategoryZ3954QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
BID MORE ON THIS ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
AIPman1
03-23-2007, 05:39 AM
Ian, I've nothing but respect for your accomplishments over the last few years, and I'm truly sorry if this hit you at a bad, busy time. I just felt it was 'guilt by association' on really reached-for 'trumped-up charges'. Why you keep portraying me as an antagonist after you said we could simply 'agree to disagree' really bugs me, though. I left it alone. As I once said to Rick (in abject gullibility), "I'll treat you with common human decency and respect, but if you desire reverence, you're barking up the wrong tree.". We both know reverence from people is Rick's definition of friendship. NOT saying you've gone that far, but the repetition that I somehow waved my 'Normous I.Q. in your face, well, was again kinda 'reaching'. The whole paragraph was an analogy, that YOU were included in--calling Dube a moron was inappropriate, because many of us here have been that kind of moron. I don't agree that this is 'all over the web'--but I think we have a good start. It seemed in one line, you were bitching about Dube being a lapdog, and in the next line, bitching about the poor bastard having an ego (you and I both rather fit into that category), and not being a better 'team player', by starting his own group. It just seemed ironic. The kid needs to be talked into going to art school or something, and to get away from the Whale--not be vilified. I'm also sorry if CAG got fragged (sic), somehow, by our exchange. I've been on their Yahoo Group for over 3 years, and have never seen anything outside of an occasional post for meetings in NYC. Maybe it's the NYC-specific site. I'd love to know more about them, if they are on the move.
A.) I never called him a moron.
B.) I'd match my IQ to yours any day.
C.) I was saying YOU have the ego, sir. Not Dube. And I MAY have an ego as well, but I certainally do my best to keep it in check.
D.) I've dropped the rest of this, I hope you will to, it is indeed pointless banter. At least here in this forum.
E.) Dimestore hosts CAG forums with sections for each chapter. FYI.
for god's sake, don't reply to this on the forum. PM me if you want to continue.
singoalla
03-23-2007, 05:58 AM
No, they're damn annoying when you have to watch two of them make googly eyes at each other through a movie. I was just waiting for a "Brokeback Mountain" moment between Sam and Frodo. *sigh*
We had a LOTR marathon once. I cried through all 12.5 hours of movie and the extra bits.
I cried when Bilbo left, when Frodo got poisoned, when Gandalf fell from the bridge, when Boromir died and Frodo and Sam left, when Aragorn was thought dead, when Aragorn returned, when Pippin and Merry were separated, when Frodo and Sam separated on the stairs of Cirith Ungol, when they re-united, when Merry and Pippin re-united, when Sam carried Frodo up the mountain, and then most of all when Aragorn said: My friends, you bow to no man.
In fact, I may shed a tear right now thinking about it. Thank god for gimli and legolas, or there would have been no laughter at all. :D
TonyIsabella
03-23-2007, 06:09 AM
The owner of Super Hero News e-mailed me after Olney complained about the Olney warnings I posted there.
Using Jim's warning to Dube - because I felt it was a great recap of the Olney vileness - and adding some of my comments, I explained why I felt it's a moral imperative for me to warn people about Olney.
I'll let you know what happens with this, but, as I'll likely be out of the office all morning - my daughter has an appointment with an oral surgeon and may have root canal surgery today - I may not be able to post until later this afternoon or this evening.
Tony
AIPman1
03-23-2007, 06:28 AM
Sorry to be such a grammar Nazi... truly I am... so, please don't think me an asshole... but, it has to be stated:
Ignore. I-G-N-O-R-E. We can't really make fun of Rick's incomprehension of the language if we mangle it ourselves.
Sorry.:(
Dyslexia, forgive me, I really should run everything I type through spellcheck, but I don't always take the time.
I had terrible trouble with the word water, adding an extra t...
KevinTBrown
03-23-2007, 06:31 AM
Seems only fair when my offering is stalled at a paltry $31...
http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Golems-Mighty-Swing-signed-by-James-Sturm_W0QQitemZ180098507189QQcategoryZ3954QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
BID MORE ON THIS ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmm, I'm a "glass half full" kinda guy..... But isn't $31 better than, say, $30 and far better than nothing at all...?
Every little bit helps.... No matter how "paltry". :)
JamesRitcheyIII
03-23-2007, 07:03 AM
A.) I never called him a moron.
No. You're right. Someone else did--I'm sure I read it here. Apologies--you called him a lapdog, implying that he didn't exercise free will--then you called him a traitor to CAG, obviously a choice. Which is he--mindless Drone--or Out of Control, betraying Bastard?
B.) I'd match my IQ to yours any day. GREAT. Now why don't you go back and read the whole post? We'll compare I.Q.'s and penis sizes if we really must, but I never fucking implied you were stupid--AT ALL. Maybe now I WOULD imply you're maybe 'Anger Motivated', with a bit of Attention Deficit Disorder, but that could likely be a good thing.
C.) I was saying YOU have the ego, sir. Not Dube. And I MAY have an ego as well, but I certainally do my best to keep it in check.
Yeah. You're my new role model for meeting people half way, and not letting my stoic, rigid, ego get in the way of rational exchanges with peers--while ignoring half the content of their posts.
D.) I've dropped the rest of this, I hope you will to, it is indeed pointless banter. At least here in this forum.
You didn't drop shit, and you just deliberately attempted to antagonize the fuck out of me--with EVERY previous post that I'm answering. Be honest--you just wanted the last word.
E.) Dimestore hosts CAG forums with sections for each chapter. FYI.
Good, as I said, I wish them all the best.
for god's sake, don't reply to this on the forum. PM me if you want to continue.
Oops. I guess I should have read the whole post. I guess you're used to bossing people around. I respect what you try to do with SPA, CAG, etc., but you're kinda acting like a dick, and to the wrong people. I wish you would stop that so that I may possibly learn to like you.
You know, we could give Olney the illusion that we all love each other unconditionally, but the fucking terrorists aren't gonna win, and the world won't end, if we disagree, sometimes.
NatGertler
03-23-2007, 07:09 AM
Remember this isn't just for publishers, but any fan who wants an original piece just for them.I don't know that it's for publishers at all -- I don't see any note that the auction includes reproduction rights to the piece. (Which is not a complaint from these quarters, even without those rights the auction is too rich for my blood. May it get much richer still!)
AIPman1
03-23-2007, 07:23 AM
No. You're right. Someone else did--I'm sure I read it here. Apologies--you called him a lapdog, implying that he didn't exercise free will--then you called him a traitor to CAG, obviously a choice. Which is he--mindless Drone--or Out of Control, betraying Bastard?
Who cares. I'm not answering. I don't need to explain myself to you. And I NEVER said Traitor...I said he was insulting and uncouth. And he was.
GREAT. Now why don't you go back and read the whole post? We'll compare I.Q.'s and penis sizes if we really must, but I never fucking implied you were stupid--AT ALL. Maybe now I WOULD imply you're maybe 'Anger Motivated', with a bit of Attention Deficit Disorder, but that could likely be a good thing.
I didn't say you called me stupid, I said that your bragging about your IQ and that group you're a card carrying member of sounded very egotistial to me. And it does.
Yeah. You're my new role model for meeting people half way, and not letting my stoic, rigid, ego get in the way of rational exchanges with peers--while ignoring half the content of their posts.
I'm anger motivated? Well I can tell you that I was a dyslexic kid in learning disability classes until High school until I finally learned how to read, and still somehow managed to make it to college (and - actual college, not community college, thanks) where I studied literature, art, and psychology. If none of that answers that segment of your tirade, that's because I don't feel the need to answer that.
You didn't drop shit, and you just deliberately attempted to antagonize the fuck out of me--with EVERY previous post that I'm answering. Be honest--you just wanted the last word.
I WOULD DROP IT if YOU WOULD. I don't think anyone here cares about or wants to see us banter back and forth. I'll gladly back down and walk away from your currently puffed up chest and ready to go at it stance. What utter nonsense.
Oops. I guess I should have read the whole post. I guess you're used to bossing people around. I respect what you try to do with SPA, CAG, etc., but you're kinda acting like a dick, and to the wrong people. I wish you would stop that so that I may possibly learn to like you.
I'm acting like a dick asking to take this kind of stupid bullshit off the forum? Can I do one of those Pot. Kettle. statements there? Here, you can kiss my butt as I walk away from this. I won't reply again to you no matter how much you want to call me out. Jerk.
You know, we could give Olney the illusion that we all love each other unconditionally, but the fucking terrorists aren't gonna win, and the world won't end, if we disagree, sometimes.
A bit of respect is always nice though. Bye!
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 07:45 AM
....And now, for a bit of needed humor.
2 priests walk into a bar. Suddenly, they're struck by lightning. The end.
2 parrots walk into a bar. One parrot says "Polly wanna drink".
The other parrot says "Polly wanna drink". The end.
Not funny? Probably not. But after the preceeding posts, it's like dragging a watermelon out of ass. Everybody just chill out.
AIPman1
03-23-2007, 07:48 AM
I'm chilled, I promise not to reply to him again. I've had my say.
rummblestrips
03-23-2007, 07:52 AM
Ian, check your PM box.
Motherly advice inside
Kozemp
03-23-2007, 07:53 AM
a whole lot of dick-measuring between Ritchey and Shires snipped
Jesus fucking Christ TAKE THIS SHIT OUTSIDE.
JLK
sick of it
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 07:53 AM
It's much more fun to vent at Rick. And he deserves it.
How many Rick's does it take to change a lightbulb?
Moot question. He never finishes anything. Unless he can con someone into doing it, then stiff them on the quarter he promised.
Joshua Pantalleresco
03-23-2007, 08:01 AM
It's much more fun to vent at Rick. And he deserves it.
How many Rick's does it take to change a lightbulb?
Moot question. He never finishes anything. Unless he can con someone into doing it, then stiff them on the quarter he promised.
besides, it's not like he's in any shape to climb the ladder to begin with.
JP
Kozemp
03-23-2007, 08:01 AM
It's much more fun to vent at Rick. And he deserves it.
How many Rick's does it take to change a lightbulb?
Moot question. He never finishes anything. Unless he can con someone into doing it, then stiff them on the quarter he promised.
If you want to do lightbulb jokes, oh, man, I've got tons of them.
JLK
five
AIPman1
03-23-2007, 08:14 AM
Ian, check your PM box.
Motherly advice inside
Thanks Joanne. I respect that.
Did you get your copy of Self Publisher! #50 yet? let me know.
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 08:20 AM
If you want to do lightbulb jokes, oh, man, I've got tons of them.
JLK
five
Well, let's not go too far with it. :p
the4thpip
03-23-2007, 08:21 AM
Rick's body shape was Edison's inspiration for the light bulb.
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 08:28 AM
Rick's body shape was Edison's inspiration for the light bulb.
No, no. Rick invented the lightbulb for a school science project, and his jealous classmate Edison disregarded his NDA and stole the idea for his own.
Kozemp
03-23-2007, 08:39 AM
Well, let's not go too far with it. :p
My favorite was always one that one of my gay friends came up with:
"How many straight men does it take to screw in a light bulb?"
"One."
(pause)
"And then he fucks his wife."
JLK
rimshot
singoalla
03-23-2007, 08:57 AM
Two muffins are in an oven.
Muffin one: Jesus it's hot in here!
Muffin two: Hey! A talking muffin!
:D
JamesRitcheyIII
03-23-2007, 09:02 AM
Who cares. I'm not answering. I don't need to explain myself to you. And I NEVER said Traitor...I said he was insulting and uncouth. And he was.
I didn't say you called me stupid, I said that your bragging about your IQ and that group you're a card carrying member of sounded very egotistial to me. And it does.
Christ. It's called an analogy, asshole. I wasn't bragging about shit. Your contempt for Dube pissed me off--indicative of your contempt, likely, for anyone who ever worked with Rick. You were implying that the poor bastard was stupid and disloyal, HOWEVER YOU PHRASED IT.
I'm anger motivated? Well I can tell you that I was a dyslexic kid in learning disability classes until High school until I finally learned how to read, and still somehow managed to make it to college (and - actual college, not community college, thanks) where I studied literature, art, and psychology. If none of that answers that segment of your tirade, that's because I don't feel the need to answer that. Yes, you are prone to rage over complete bullshit, that you imagine--and I still have no fucking clue why you're so angry about a fucking analogy, that wasn't even the main crux of the goddamned argument. By demeaning Dube, you demeaned everyone here who ever was bullshitted, robbed and duped by Rick. I'm glad you did well in school. My guitarist and good (but dead) friend Bruce Barg was Dyslexic, and managed Berklee in Boston... They called him 'Little Al', after DeMeola.
I WOULD DROP IT if YOU WOULD. I don't think anyone here cares about or wants to see us banter back and forth. I'll gladly back down and walk away from your currently puffed up chest and ready to go at it stance. What utter nonsense. Actually, since you're a bit of a literalist, i'll give you MY sob-story--my chest isn't puffed up--I'm reclining on my bed, typing these words, suffering from the first stages of Secondary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis, after likely having Relapsing-Remitting my entire life. copaxine keeps it to 'pre-attack' levels, where I can, at least walk. Before a year and a half ago when I was finally diagnosed, I had to find out--after I lost the ability to walk without a cane, and started falling down almost constantly. I thought numbness intermixed with excruciating, systematic pain was normal, and just was pretty fucking depressed that I wasn't more successful, from around the time most people would have gone to college. At that age, I couldn't go, because I was supporting four younger sisters and my mom (who was a basket case), and working three jobs a week, two a day, after my near-wealthy father divorced my mother, and abandoned us. GREAT role model. He claimed me as a dependent until I was 23, so I couldn't obtain a student loan. Did the same to my sisters. I gave up and entered the workforce, started playing music, and eventually part-to full time freelance art. We were psychologically abused by this son of a bitch from the time we could understand the English language. NOT conducive to self-confidence. I read copiously, and have over 90% comprehension, Two decades later, I passed the Entrance Exam at Emory--in 1998, but ended up incapable of paying for it, after I lost a part time job at Emory (FREE tuition). With your superior education, your I.Q. must be infinitely superior to mine! I think I'll get all insecure now. NOT. You don't want to know what mine is, really.
This is just my way of saying--YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, when you say I'm egotistical. My self-respect has been hard-won, and I could give less than two shits if you don't respect me.
I'm acting like a dick asking to take this kind of stupid bullshit off the forum? Can I do one of those Pot. Kettle. statements there? Here, you can kiss my butt as I walk away from this. I won't reply again to you no matter how much you want to call me out. Jerk.
GOOD! Now I can be mean to you, without a rambling diatribe for a response, that has little to do with anything I've said. I admire your nobility in the face of such obvious, unprovoked attack (sic). You're acting like a dick, because you're a rageaholic. You might as well say "Well! I have never been so insulted in my entire life!!!".
A bit of respect is always nice though. Bye!
I don't know how many times I've lead with a qualification of something along the lines of, "I respect what you do..", I think it has been almost every goddamned post to you, but you must have skipped those lines. You mean REVERANCE. What a complete Jack-Ass, and I won't bother with your sorry ass again, either..
G'Riddance!
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 09:05 AM
James, PLEEEEEEASE let it go.
AIPman1
03-23-2007, 09:17 AM
Everyone will be very happy to know I refuse to respond to that past saying here that I refuse to respond to it.
the4thpip
03-23-2007, 09:19 AM
I refuse to invoke any Monty Python sketch in response to the last post.
JamesRitcheyIII
03-23-2007, 09:21 AM
James, PLEEEEEEASE let it go.
I did! All good, now.
AIPman1
03-23-2007, 09:22 AM
Spam? Spam! Spam spam spam Spam? Spam! Spam spam spam Spam? Spam! Spam spam spam Spam? Spam! Spam spam spam Spam? Spam! Spam spam spam
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 09:23 AM
And everyone should be happy that I refuse to eat collard greens.....oh wait, that belongs on the anti-flatulence thread. My bad.
the4thpip
03-23-2007, 09:32 AM
And everyone should be happy that I refuse to eat collard greens.....oh wait, that belongs on the anti-flatulence thread. My bad.
There is a great fish recipes thread here.
Tegan
03-23-2007, 09:33 AM
There is a great fish recipes thread here.
Any hobbit recipes thread?
the4thpip
03-23-2007, 09:39 AM
Any hobbit recipes thread?
We have Hobbit-flavored cookies here:
http://www.groby.hu/product_images/XL/10186.gif
rummblestrips
03-23-2007, 09:44 AM
OK, I have the best joke ever
It's a Canadian joke, so nah!
Two drunks are up at the top of the CN Tower, one of the tallest buildings in the world. The one goes out to the ledge and says, "Fuck, it's windy out here, I bet if I jumped off, the wind would just push me right back up to the top here."
The other drunk says, "Man, you're nuts!"
So, the first drunk jumps off the tower, falls 1/3 down and "whoosh!" right back up again landing on top of the tower.
"See? Now you try!"
The second drunk can't believe his eyes, "That's amazing, but I'm not drunk enough to try that!"
So they go back inside and have several more drinks.
An hour later, they both come back out to the ledge, their words slurring more, and the first drunk says, "Fuck, it's even WINDIER out here now. I bet I could fall even farther and the wind would push me right back up."
"NO way, man" The second drunk says, swaying in the wind.
So, the first drunk jumps off again, falls 1/2 way down and "whoosh!" he goes RIGHT back up again, landing clumsily on the top of the tower.
"HOLY SHIT!" Says the second drunk
"Your turn" laughs the first one.
"NO way, man. I'm not drunk enough to try that."
SO, they go back inside and 2 hours later, come back outside, barely able to walk.
"Fuck" The first drunk says, "It's even windier, I bet I'll fall even farther AND get blown RIGHT back up."
"Ssssurrr..." says the second drunk
The first drunk jumps off, falls 3/4 down and "whoosh!" he goes right back up again and lands on the top and falling clumsily down as he lands.
"OK." The second drunk goes to the ledge, "I'm drunk enough now." And jumps off, falling all the way to the ground and making a splat as he hits.
The first drunk walks back inside and up to the bar.
"Give me another one." he slurs out.
The bartender looks at him in disgust, "You're such and asshole when you drink, Superman."
:D
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 09:52 AM
OK, I have the best joke ever
It's a Canadian joke, so nah!
:D
That joke makes me want to go back to people sniping at each other. :rolleyes:
generaljackcosmo
03-23-2007, 09:56 AM
The bartender looks at him in disgust, "You're such and asshole when you drink, Superman."
:D
He IS though. I mean, come on...we've all seen Superman 3.
Unfortunately.
Plus, you know, there's this:
www.superdickery.com
Kurt Busiek
03-23-2007, 10:13 AM
I'm acting like a dick asking to take this kind of stupid bullshit off the forum?
Either one of you can take it off the forum by your own choice -- but snarling at each other and demanding the other guy not respond publicly has only worked four times in the history of the internet, and one of those was because the guy on the other side was hit by a bus coming home from work.
The other three times, no one has ever been able to explain.
kdb
Gail Simone
03-23-2007, 10:14 AM
Guys, I think you've already let this go, which is good, but perhaps if there's more it can be taken to email?
James, I'm sorry about the struggles you mentioned. I know you're not looking for sympathy but that is one rough goddamned hand you were dealt and I'm glad a good guy somehow came out at the end of it.
Gail
AIPman1
03-23-2007, 10:21 AM
Either one of you can take it off the forum by your own choice -- but snarling at each other and demanding the other guy not respond publicly has only worked four times in the history of the internet, and one of those was because the guy on the other side was hit by a bus coming home from work.
The other three times, no one has ever been able to explain.
kdb
As i've said repeatedly I'm not responding. I'd appreciate if the whole stupid subject was just dropped by everyone...The chances of me reporting anything I hear here has gone basically out the window, I can't blink right for you people anymore, so, just let me watch in quiet. please.
the4thpip
03-23-2007, 10:26 AM
As i've said repeatedly I'm not responding. I'd appreciate if the whole stupid subject was just dropped by everyone...The chances of me reporting anything I hear here has gone basically out the window, I can't blink right for you people anymore, so, just let me watch in quiet. please.
Could you repeat that , please?
The font on this screen is awfully small and I couldn't read it the first time.
;)
Gail Simone
03-23-2007, 10:28 AM
Oh, for pete's sake.
Gail
AIPman1
03-23-2007, 10:30 AM
Could you repeat that , please?
The font on this screen is awfully small and I couldn't read it the first time.
;)
no
!!!!!!!!
the4thpip
03-23-2007, 10:36 AM
Oh, for pete's sake.
Gail
I like Pete.
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 10:38 AM
Henry Blake quote that fits this situation.
"Frank, I swear I'm going to put it in your permanent record that you don't work and play well with others."
Gail Simone
03-23-2007, 10:42 AM
Guys, can we not get back to the one thing that we all agree on:
It's very painful to fart out a pinata!
Gail
Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:45 AM
*Opens a beer*
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 10:46 AM
Guys, can we not get back to the one thing that we all agree on:
It's very painful to fart out a pinata!
Gail
And dangerous after eating collard greens.:D
Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:46 AM
Guys, can we not get back to the one thing that we all agree on:
It's very painful to fart out a pinata!
Gail
I can't say I ever tried.
Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:48 AM
I think some surgery would be required from a deregistered doctor.
Tegan
03-23-2007, 10:49 AM
We have Hobbit-flavored cookies here:
http://www.groby.hu/product_images/XL/10186.gif
mmmmmm Hobbit Cookies! Yum.
(so says the cannabal)
Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:51 AM
You'd think they'd be foot shaped.
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 10:52 AM
mmmmmm Hobbit Cookies! Yum.
(so says the cannabal)
Wonder if people find a lot of hair in those things. Those little people are like mini-yetis.
TomStillwell
03-23-2007, 10:57 AM
Guys, can we not get back to the one thing that we all agree on:
It's very painful to fart out a pinata!
Gail
It's even more painful if people are trying to break it beforehand.
Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:58 AM
The hair give them fibre.
Cam63
03-23-2007, 10:59 AM
It's even more painful if people are trying to break it beforehand.
Or load it.
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 11:04 AM
The hair give them fibre.
Producing a new form of adobe brick for building Hobbit houses.
Cam63
03-23-2007, 11:10 AM
Producing a new form of adobe brick for building Hobbit houses.
So that's what they mean by " Hobbit architecture is shithouse " ?
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 11:13 AM
So that's what they mean by " Hobbit architecture is shithouse " ?
And God help'em if the wind picks up. Cause then the shit hits the fan.
Cam63
03-23-2007, 11:18 AM
It's better when it's dry.
TonyIsabella
03-23-2007, 11:34 AM
If we can get back to the matter at hand. Olney has again posted to the Super Hero News group, which, as I have mentioned before, is a major source of news for many in the fan and pro communities. Here's what he posted:
So - "I'm going to be posting this warning at least once a week
because a week doesn't go by without someone else coming forward to
tell of their experiences with Rick Olney."
Well, allow me to reply publicly to this latest attempt by Mr.
Isabella to libel, intimidate, and cast me into a deep dark pit for
YOUR safety. Riiiiiight...
"He has failed to pay freelancers for work he commissioned, often
putting the families of those freelancers at risk. He has bullied,
insulted, and threatened people with legal action for going
public with his broken promises, failures to pay, and threats."
Yes, presently I have plans afoot to involve and address ANY freelance
talent that signed, before a Notary Public, a confidential
non-disclosure agreement PRIOR TO interacting with myself or agents of
my company, TightLip Entertainment. Upon having those assurances from
said talent(s), things such as compensation and ALL conversations took
place under that umbrella of confidentiality. Nothing illegal about that.
Mr. Isabella states that I bully, insult, and threaten people with
legal action. I say, Mr. Isabella is the pot calling the kettle black.
Mr. Isabella and others from within the professional setting are only
upset that several of their own are caught up in having broken legal
agreements. Mr. Isabella thinks that he is right in what and how he
has involved himself.
Mr. Isabella is wrong. Any of the alleged to be unpaid freelancers
could've and should've contacted their own personal legal
representation versus joining a free booting group of people
practicing EXACTLY (and worse) what Mr. Isabella condemns me for.
Legally, it makes no sense for people not directly affected by this
matter to involve themselves. Greater still, it is simply an attempt
by Mr. Isabella and his contemporaries to cloud the issue for the
sake and protection of those professionals involved to use tactics to
discredit, libel, and destroy my good name, my business, and matters
pertaining to my love for the hobby and business of comics.
"And he's still at it. Planning yet another convention, claiming that
he plans to publish work that he's not paid for, trying to recruit
naive young artists into working for him, creating a new comics club
(Mohawk Valley) to give him another venue from which he can work his
vileness, and on and on and on."
Correction: The Mohawk Valley Comics Newsletter is NOT a comic book
club. It is simply a newsletter aimed and addressing comics and
popular art topics fom a different perspective.
I do not need a *new* comics club. I still have Organized Readers of
Comics Associated(ORCA), and we will have our *new* www.orcafresh.org
site ready by August 1st of this year. Your attempts to destroy my
business and good name will not go unanswered legally, Mr. Isabella.
So, to all your friends and readers...
I strongly refute your bold and libelous claims. They are untrue and
driven by hate.
Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment
www.mightyminicon.com
My first thought was to write a short post directing people to the Unscrewed website for further information. I would also mention the warning letter than appears there and list the names/credits of all who signed it.
I still think this is a good idea. But...
I also think it would be more effective coming from one of the bigger names (Gail Simone, Chuck Dixon, Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, James Owen, Paul Smith, or Scott Shaw, to name a few examples) involved in this effort. That way, this doesn't look like just me hating on Olney.
I'm used to going pretty much alone on a lot of moral issues in comicom and I'll continue to do so on this one if I must. But I haven't written any comics in years and that, my past "triumphs" notwithstanding, makes me easier to dismiss than those named above.
Any of the above want to pinch-hit for me today?
Tony
P.S. My daughter's root canal surgery went exceedingly well this morning. The damaged tooth even looks a little brighter, though it'll still need to be bleached at some point in the near future. But this clears the way for the orthodontist to begin the treatment that will get her teeth back where they belong.
TonyIsabella
03-23-2007, 11:36 AM
Oh, yeah, and I apologize if I left out any other bigger names than mine. Two seconds after I posted, I remembered Larry and Mercedes.
Tony
TonyIsabella
03-23-2007, 11:41 AM
And if anybody needs a quote re: Olney's latest threat of legal action against me, here it is:
"I'm so incredibly terrified I feel as if my heart were going to explode. No, wait, that was just heartburn from lunch. Apparently, my invulnerability to ridiculous threats from delusional deadbeats with imaginary lawyers is still intact. But, to play it safe, I'm gonna pop a couple of Tums."
Tony
Sarah Beach
03-23-2007, 11:52 AM
Tony, glad to hear that your daughter's oral surgery went well. I know that can be a trying thing.
I think you're right in that a follow-up needs to be made by some other voices there. Not long tirades, of course, but straight to the point comments. Because "ignore that man behind the curtain" does not always work.
Let me thing about it.... unless someone else comes up with a good take on it all.
Larkin
03-23-2007, 12:00 PM
I've been lurking and reading this thread from almost the beginning and didn't feel the need to add my .02, but this is just hilarious:
Rick Olney states early in his rant against Tony Isabella:
Mr. Isabella states that I bully, insult, and threaten people with
legal action. I say, Mr. Isabella is the pot calling the kettle black.
Mr. Isabella and others from within the professional setting are only
upset that several of their own are caught up in having broken legal
agreements. Mr. Isabella thinks that he is right in what and how he
has involved himself.
Mr. Isabella is wrong.
And the kicker at the end of his rant:
Your attempts to destroy my
business and good name will not go unanswered legally, Mr. Isabella.
What a complete moron! Too damn funny
rummblestrips
03-23-2007, 12:02 PM
Definitely post a follow-up and include those huge names. Rick needs to be put down fast. He's such a complete piece of garbage for thinking what he's done is OK. And then he hides behind legal ramblings?!?!?!
ACH!
GO GET HIM TONY!!!!!!!!
Kurt Busiek
03-23-2007, 12:07 PM
Guys, can we not get back to the one thing that we all agree on:
It's very painful to fart out a pinata!
I'll take your word for it, honest.
kdb
Sparvid
03-23-2007, 12:18 PM
"And he's still at it. Planning yet another convention, claiming that
he plans to publish work that he's not paid for, trying to recruit
naive young artists into working for him, creating a new comics club
(Mohawk Valley) to give him another venue from which he can work his
vileness, and on and on and on."
Correction: The Mohawk Valley Comics Newsletter is NOT a comic book
club. It is simply a newsletter aimed and addressing comics and
popular art topics fom a different perspective.
I do not need a *new* comics club. I still have Organized Readers of
Comics Associated(ORCA), and we will have our *new* www.orcafresh.org
site ready by August 1st of this year. Your attempts to destroy my
business and good name will not go unanswered legally, Mr. Isabella.
I like how the one thing he corrects is the word "club". And not the rest. "Hey, how dare you say that I would use my new club to screw people out of money? I'll screw people through a newsletter, thankyouverymuch!"
Blake Petit
03-23-2007, 12:19 PM
Any of the alleged to be unpaid freelancers could've and should've contacted their own personal legal representation versus joining a free booting group of people practicing EXACTLY (and worse) what Mr. Isabella condemns me for.
alleged
1. to assert without proof.
2. to declare with positiveness; affirm; assert: to allege a fact.
3. to declare before a court or elsewhere, as if under oath.
4. to plead in support of; offer as a reason or excuse.
Alleged works the other way here, dipshit. In a court of law, you're not going to be trying to prove a negative. In other words, they won't have to prove they weren't paid, you'd have to prove they were.
Which, I believe, you've already admitted multiple times hasn't happened.
My father's all-time favorite joke:
A guy walks into a psychiatrist's office with a pelican on his head. The doctor says, "Can I help you?" The pelican says, "Yeah! Get this guy out from under me!"
:rimshot:
Kurt Busiek
03-23-2007, 12:19 PM
I also think it would be more effective coming from one of the bigger names (Gail Simone, Chuck Dixon, Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, James Owen, Paul Smith, or Scott Shaw, to name a few examples) involved in this effort. That way, this doesn't look like just me hating on Olney.
I don't respond to Olney directly, and I think it's a waste of time getting into a back-and-forth with him, since it's what he wants -- a way to try to deflect matters to what he'd rather talk about, to delay things and to obscure them.
If anyone does follow-up his follow-up, I'd suggest they simply point out to anyone reading, rather than to Olney, that his response both confirms that he has not paid freelancers he's commissioned and that he makes legal threats in response to those publicizing that fact, and in the spirit of not turning a press release forum into an Internet back-and-forth, invites anyone interested in the details to view them at unscrewedcomic.com.
And whatever he posts thereafter, the response should always just be to invite people to view the facts at uncrewedcomic.com.
"I'm so incredibly terrified I feel as if my heart were going to explode. No, wait, that was just heartburn from lunch. Apparently, my invulnerability to ridiculous threats from delusional deadbeats with imaginary lawyers is still intact. But, to play it safe, I'm gonna pop a couple of Tums."
This isn't press-release material and doesn't belong on a press-release site. It's bravado and posturing, and while it's well-grounded and funny, the last thing we need to be doing is turning into a bunch of people waving their dicks at each others and playing the internet dozens.
Let him do that. It makes him look like a moron. But don't do it back at him, unless it's in a collegial place like here. It's not the public face you want to put on Unscrewed.
kdb
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 01:08 PM
Meanwhile, back at the collegial place.....
[Don't sue me, Kurt]
Sarah Beach
03-23-2007, 01:17 PM
I ended up taking it upon myself. I composed a response to the paramecium.
We'll see what happens. I'm not used to the communication format for the SuperHeroNews listing. I composed a reply to the personage -- and emailed it to him (heh). I did copy it and submit it for posting on the list. But I forgot to recopy it, so I could post the text to it here. Ooops.
Well, it may come round again one way or another. We'll see. But I did do as you were suggesting, Kurt. I point them to Unscrewed! And I once again reiterated that "it's not libel if it's true".
Heh.
TCJohnson
03-23-2007, 01:20 PM
Oh, yeah, and I apologize if I left out any other bigger names than mine. Two seconds after I posted, I remembered Larry and Mercedes.
Tony
Mercedes is a much bigger name than Larry. Mercedes has 7 letters while Larry has 5. Unless she is going by Misty, then they are both about the same. :D
....what?
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 01:20 PM
I don't respond to Olney directly, and I think it's a waste of time getting into a back-and-forth with him, since it's what he wants -- a way to try to deflect matters to what he'd rather talk about, to delay things and to obscure them.
If anyone does follow-up his follow-up, I'd suggest they simply point out to anyone reading, rather than to Olney, that his response both confirms that he has not paid freelancers he's commissioned and that he makes legal threats in response to those publicizing that fact, and in the spirit of not turning a press release forum into an Internet back-and-forth, invites anyone interested in the details to view them at unscrewedcomic.com.
And whatever he posts thereafter, the response should always just be to invite people to view the facts at uncrewedcomic.com.
This isn't press-release material and doesn't belong on a press-release site. It's bravado and posturing, and while it's well-grounded and funny, the last thing we need to be doing is turning into a bunch of people waving their dicks at each others and playing the internet dozens.
Let him do that. It makes him look like a moron. But don't do it back at him, unless it's in a collegial place like here. It's not the public face you want to put on Unscrewed.
kdb
You are right, but I wonder sometimes if I should post a message stating that Superhero News is not for discussion of news, but the posting of news and notices...
Rik is a good friend of mine and I know he's busy working over at Archie so he doesn't have a lot of time to police his group when folks like Olney pop up unless he goes in and makes every post need approval before it's released but that is just such a pain in the ass....
DaveRothe
03-23-2007, 01:59 PM
Guys, can we not get back to the one thing that we all agree on:
It's very painful to fart out a pinata!
Gail
And even more painful sideways!!! Yeah that was a squeaker...
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 02:00 PM
OK, I have the best joke ever
It's a Canadian joke, so nah!
:D
Ah first Kids in the Hall now this.
KUDOS! to our friends up North. ;)
Also I got e-mail kudos from Jonah. :p So much for Ricks very bestest best pal in the whole wide world.
NatGertler
03-23-2007, 02:09 PM
It's very painful to fart out a pinata!There's a price to pay for eating papier-mâché.
Sarah Beach
03-23-2007, 02:21 PM
Ha! This was posted to SuperHeroNews -- by yours truly --
Do let us be clear about some statements here.
--- In SuperHeroNews@yahoogroups.com, "orcafresh" <orcafresh@...>
wrote:
> Well, allow me to reply publicly to this latest attempt by Mr.
> Isabella to libel, intimidate, and cast me into a deep dark pit for
> YOUR safety. Riiiiiight...
As has been stated to Mr. Olney several times in several venues, it
is not libel if it is true.
Other than threatening legal action against sundry persons, for well
over three months now, Mr. Olney has taken NO legal steps to address
these matters.
On the other side of the fence, several of those he had contracted
work and commissions from, who he then stiffed for their rightful
income, are taking the step of suing him. Indeed, judgements have
already been made against him. His contempt of the legal system is
such that he did not even bother to contact the courts when he was
served with summons. He will threaten with the law if it suits him,
but he will ignore it if it is contrary to his personal comfort or
desires.
As for the matter of his precious NDAs, the standard wording of his
usual offering (a blank one, not tied to any particular person's
actual work agreement) has been reviewed by lawyers, and it has been
determined that it in no way addresses a creator's monetary
compensation, nor does it prohibit a creator from speaking of the
mere fact that he or she has not been paid for work done, delivered
and accepted by Mr. Olney. He is blathering a great deal when he
claims that these NDAs in any way affect payments due for work done.
He claims that the actions of those who have joined together to
prevent his continued abuse of talented creators are detrimental to
his "good name and reputation." He has long since destroyed
whatever "good name" he had in comic book circles, and he did it all
by himself.
On the Unscrewed! website (www.unscrewedcomic.com) is a partial
chronology of his actions from 2003 onward, and many of the items on
that chronology were taken from his own posts on the internet (surely
his own words can be considered an authoritative source!).
He is a blight upon the profession of producing comic books. He would
rather spend time ranting invective against talented people, than he
would in making even a token attempt to pay those writers and artists
from whom he has solicited work (and in some cases, used that work on
websites and in press releases).
We invite all concerned or even interested folk to check out our
endeavors to bring something positive out of the mire he has created.
We work to be transparent about our doings, and welcome any questions
or other inquiries people might have. We even provide documentation
should anyone desire such (unlike Mr. Olney, who will not even reveal
the name of his lawyer to anyone, in spite of telling many of his
former creative teams that they need to comply with documents to be
sent them from his lawyer).
For the record: I have not worked for Mr. Olney (nor would I want
to), I am not owed anything by Mr. Olney, I have not attended any of
his infrequent "conventions". My first encounter with him (indeed, my
first introduction to his very existence) came when he invaded Chuck
Dixon's message board, which I moderate. However, my sense of justice
and fair play were roused as I learned of his abuse of rising
talents. I have lent my support to the cause of Unscrewed! because of
these things.
I and my colleagues are preparing an anthology in support of the
efforts of Unscrewed! It is shaping up to be a very exciting project,
and will include the talents of Chuck Dixon, Drew Geraci and Barbara
Kesel, just to name a few. All participants have joined this effort
for the sake of the cause (and telling a good story). (And I should
point out, the book has nothing to do with Mr. Olney himself at all.)
To all readers, cordially,
Sarah Beach
Editor, Unscrewed! Comic Anthology.
Like I said, it also got emailed to the paramecium. Not a peep from that direction so far.
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 02:23 PM
Ha! This was posted to SuperHeroNews -- by yours truly --
Like I said, it also got emailed to the paramecium. Not a peep from that direction so far.
I was going to post that it's not a discussion group but a news posting group, but I didn't want you to think I was chiding you Sarah.
Papergirl
03-23-2007, 02:25 PM
He's 73, now?
Think we're making him age prematurely? :evilsmile
Lying about one's age IS against Myspace TOS...
*runs off to write an e-mail!* :evilsmile
~Bev
Sarah Beach
03-23-2007, 02:30 PM
I was going to post that it's not a discussion group but a news posting group, but I didn't want you to think I was chiding you Sarah.
Oh, I understood that, Danny. But I felt that some of the way he was going on affected Unscrewed! - both the site and the upcoming book. And it seemed inportant to get in there ahead of him, particularly in clear, to the point language, without his gooping rants.
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 02:45 PM
Rick's lawyer continues to shine like a crazy diamond.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20070323.gif
Papergirl
03-23-2007, 02:48 PM
He is under investigation by the State Attorney General's office for falsely misrepresenting his convention's auction as a benefit for St. Jude's Children's Hospital, which has never heard of him.
Okay, because this is driving me bonkers here...
The full and proper name is St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. No 's on the end of St. Jude. When shortening the full name of the hospital, it should be simply St. Jude. Again, no 's, unless you are using it in a possessive sense, and even that makes me twitch when used incorrectly. :p
~Bev
Feeling nit-picky today! :p
Papergirl
03-23-2007, 02:51 PM
I've been lurking and reading this thread from almost the beginning and didn't feel the need to add my .02, but this is just hilarious:
Rick Olney states early in his rant against Tony Isabella:
And the kicker at the end of his rant:
What a complete moron! Too damn funny
Hello! Welcome! And, yes, the Dickless Deadbeat IS a moron! :D
~Bev
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 03:10 PM
Jack Thompson is like the Rick Olney of Video Games.
This is a response to his latest nutbar lawsuit by Tycho at Penny-Arcade
"We detest and confound you because you're an asshole. There is no greater conspiracy - or, if there is, we are not party to it. I love the idea that we act as media hitmen for hire, I love the drama and the romance of it. But it's not mystical or sinister: it's what you might call "media physics." You put out something we disagree with, and then (as by some natural inclination of the universe) we respond to it. It's still legal to disagree with you, right? I sometimes forget which country I live in."
Makes me think of Rick in a way. :p
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 03:21 PM
orcafresh™, a Marine's Marine!
so, so, so wrong.
Sarah Beach
03-23-2007, 03:24 PM
so, so, so wrong.
But Danny, it's been borne upon him that his claim of "honorably discharged Marine" had lost its punch (to say nothing of its credibility). He had to up the hype value somehow.
Of course, he was dorkish about it, but come on.... look who we're talking about. ;)
rummblestrips
03-23-2007, 03:26 PM
SARAH BEACH!
You are my hero for the day!
HUGS FOR YOU!
Papergirl
03-23-2007, 03:34 PM
Notice, he STILL hasn't answered my two VERY simple questions that ANY REAL MARINE CAN ANSWER!
Lying deadbeat cockroachturd.
~Bev
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 03:38 PM
Lying deadbeat cockroachturd.
~Bev
Let's just shorten that to dungbeetle, eh?
Sarah Beach
03-23-2007, 03:40 PM
SARAH BEACH!
You are my hero for the day!
HUGS FOR YOU!
Thanks, Joanne!
Here's hoping it does the job, and makes a good impression on those who've been skipping over things.
(And hugs are always good! You said you will be in San Diego, didn't you? We'll have to snag a meal or at least a snack together at some point, if so.)
Papergirl
03-23-2007, 03:42 PM
Let's just shorten that to dungbeetle, eh?
Nah. I kinda enjoy typing the phrase "lying deadbeat cockroach turd" out. It's far more accurate. And I am a BIG believer in accuracy!
~Bev
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 03:47 PM
Nah. I kinda enjoy typing the phrase "lying deadbeat cockroach turd" out. It's far more accurate. And I am a BIG believer in accuracy!
~Bev
The accurate descriptions I think up for Rick have lots of four letter words in them, so I tone them down for you gentle people. ;)
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 03:48 PM
SARAH BEACH!
You are my hero for the day!
HUGS FOR YOU!
awww, I'm always a day late and dollar short for hero days and hugs. :p
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 03:51 PM
Yes, so we're clear -- You (and several others) have stated numerous
times: "It is not libel if it is true."
Exactly why this matter has to be placed before a court of law, and
shall in the coming days and months. Why you and Mr. Isabella bother
to use this basic news service in this fashion is ridiculous. To quote
Mr. Isabella's post today on your 'precious' libel thread:
"My first thought was to write a short post directing people to the
Unscrewed website for further information. I would also mention the
warning letter than appears there and list the names/credits of all
who signed it.
I still think this is a good idea. But...
I also think it would be more effective coming from one of the bigger
names (Gail Simone, Chuck Dixon, Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, James Owen,
Paul Smith, or Scott Shaw, to name a few examples) involved in this
effort. That way, this doesn't look like just me hating on Olney.
Umm... you mean as opposed to it actually being hate driven utterances
by the others? My, but you DO think the general reading public are
stupid, don't you?
I'm used to going pretty much alone on a lot of moral issues in
comicom and I'll continue to do so on this one if I must. But I
haven't written any comics in years and that, my past "triumphs"
notwithstanding, makes me easier to dismiss than those named above.
Any of the above want to pinch-hit for me today?
Tony"
Mr. Isabella's words must certainly speak volumes to his level of
hatred. Why else would he say, "That way, this doesn't look like just
me hating on Olney."
Ms. Beach, I'm under advise from Counsel to not answer specific
questions about the 2 earlier filed small claims court actions against
me. And, there have, to date, ONLY been two contrary to all the
huff-puff. I also believe I've communicated clearly that at least one
of those two cases is being taken by me to a higher appeals court for
consideration of Fraud. It is illegal for a person to trick the court
by misrepresenting their case. To be owed and paid for someone ... One
must first create it and have a contract.
NDA's are something I believe (using Mr. Isabella's
examples:)yourself, "Gail Simone", Chuck Dixon, Mark Waid, Kurt
Busiek, James Owen, Paul Smith, and Scott Shaw, painfully need more
education on. You asserting that message board "lawyers" on CBR are
reputable sources of opinion where legal non-disclosure agreements are
concerned is laughable. The terms and agreement structure of TightLip
Entertainment's NDA clearly defines and outlines confidential
materials or knowledge the parties wish to share with one another for
certain purposes, but wish to restrict from generalized use. In other
words, it is a contract through which the parties agree not to
disclose information covered by the agreement. An NDA creates a
confidential relationship between the parties to protect any type of
trade secret. As such, an NDA can protect non-public business
information. It is our claim that not only were NDA's broken and
disregarded, but that individuals not connected to the business
dealings played party to subverting and libeling as a form of
intimidation, using stalking, slander, and posts such as yours (and
Mr. Isabella's )to paint a picture that doesn't exist. Afterall, I and
my company have NOTHING (of a business nature) to do with you. Yet you
continue to involve yourself.
Now, where involving yourself is concerned: I have no problem with the
theory behind www.Unscrewed.com -- although, I'm certainly not the
first or last individual to find himself within a legal quadry with
comic book talents -- so let us hope that you all mature past the name
calling and tactics like this to do good things for people needing help.
This all a little like what Ronee Garcia Bourgeois and Friends of Lulu
got involved with when Ronee attempted to assist Ms. Taki Soma, where
her claims of being mistreated (sexually) were concerned?
You said, "He is blathering a great deal when he
claims that these NDAs in any way affect payments due for work done."
I have never contested that talents involved in the "Tales of The
Spooky" book were not owed monies. I simply focused on the fact that
many disregarded their non-disclosure agreement(s) after thinking
their contract for payment with my company had been cast aside. If any
confusion came of this it most likely was what was started on the
libel thread at CBR in the YABS forum. Correctly to the point, a court
of civil law will decide who is culpable and responsible on all sides
of this matter. Just as the many numerous transgressions and acts
against me will be weighed legally and acted upon.
You also said, "For the record: I have not worked for Mr. Olney (nor
would I want to), I am not owed anything by Mr. Olney, I have not
attended any of his infrequent "conventions". My first encounter with
him (indeed, my first introduction to his very existence) came when he
invaded Chuck Dixon's message board, which I moderate. However, my
sense of justice and fair play were roused as I learned of his abuse
of rising talents. I have lent my support to the cause of Unscrewed!
because of these things."
For the record: I went to Chuck Dixon's message board to confirm that
he had broken HIS non-disclosure agreement with my company. Upon
getting to the conversational stage with Mr. Dixon that the matter
between himself and I would need to be taken to the lawyer stage --
it was then that you and "Gail Simone" began your nonsense. And, that
was when "Gail" carried it to her forum. The libeling of my convention
is actionable legally, just as Mr. Isabella taking libel potshots at
the new Mohawk Valley Comics Newsletter effort here locally by several
parents of children engaged in the ORCAKids group. Again, when HATE
blinds you ... you make serious legal mistakes.
Not getting off the topic of the NDA: NDAs are commonly signed when
two companies or individuals are considering doing business together
and need to understand the processes used in one another's businesses
solely for the purpose of evaluating the potential business
relationship. NDAs can be "mutual", meaning both parties are
restricted in their use of the materials provided, or they can only
restrict a single party.
It is also possible for an employee to sign an NDA or NDA-like
agreement with a company at the time of hiring, in fact some
employment agreements will include a clause restricting "confidential
information" in general. So those talents coming to my company for
work-for-hire were required to sign non-disclosure agreements. The NDA
outlines clearly what the confidentiality boundries are. Which, in no
way, would complicate a talent from seeking legal advise on their own.
I mean, instead of turning to people such as yourself for legal advise.
Words can be too all telling. Such as your remarks earlier today when
you posted news of posting this response by you on Rik's SuperHeroNews
egroup on the libel thread at YABs:
"To all readers, cordially,
Sarah Beach
Editor, Unscrewed! Comic Anthology.
Like I said, it also got emailed to the paramecium. Not a peep from
that direction so far."
PEEP! PEEP! lol
You now have as much of an answer as you deserve. I doubt if it'll
impress you as much as a legal deposition action will.
Respectfully,
Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment
You got peeped.
Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 04:01 PM
You got peeped.
Olney is such a yappy, toothless dog.
rummblestrips
03-23-2007, 04:06 PM
Good lord, he sounds so childish in his responses. There's a lot of work being done by many people to ensure that Rick doesn't screw anyone else around, but to be honest, his own words really do help our side of the fight.
I mean, PEEP PEEP???!?!
Is he sitting at his computer saying to himself, "Yes, I am clevvar, more clevvar than all those pukees."
Keep em coming Rick, you're helping our cause just by opening your big yap.
Inkpot1965
03-23-2007, 04:09 PM
Good lord, he sounds so childish in his responses. There's a lot of work being done by many people to ensure that Rick doesn't screw anyone else around, but to be honest, his own words really do help our side of the fight.
I mean, PEEP PEEP???!?!
Is he sitting at his computer saying to himself, "Yes, I am clevvar, more clevvar than all those pukees."
Keep em coming Rick, you're helping our cause just by opening your big yap.
I wonder who's going to zapped with legal action in coming days and months?
Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 04:12 PM
My response to the cockroach:
Yappy dog...do shut up.
You keep intimating that Scott defrauded you somehow. Thing is, I saw the contract. I saw YOUR words claiming you'd pay him.
I saw the completed work.
The judge saw all of it too.
You don't have a lawyer. You barely qualify as having a spine.
Go back to your "private" blogs and whine to the 3 people that actually listen to you. And do shut up.
Sarah Beach
03-23-2007, 04:17 PM
Dear me! What a lot of blah blah blather.
To the paramecium:
(1) "Advise" is a verb - it is what one does; "advice" is a noun - it is what one gives.
(2) Didn't "libel" your convention, ducky (Hmmm. Can one libel a convention?). I said they were infrequent. They are. Okay, so I put quotation marks around them, the way you do for Gail's name. You don't seem particularly good at convening much of anything, so I was being courteous in even using the word convention.
(3) If you don't at least contact the court, when served a summons, it's worthy of note as an example of contempt. Sorry, but them's the facts.
(4) Your continued blather about NDA does not negate the fact that you failed the terms of your own contracts. Nor does it in any way affect the payment due the creative teams. And in case you hadn't noticed at the time, Chuck only spoke publically to the fact that he had not been paid. He said nothing about the internal workings of your "company", nor even the nature of the material he was working on. Doofus, he did NOT breach anything. Oh. And he never signed your silly NDA. You have never proven that he did (a simple pdf scan of it would have countered that statement by him).
Stop trying to be so pompous in public forums, paramecium. You can't pull it off.
Tegan
03-23-2007, 04:22 PM
Let's just shorten that to dungbeetle, eh?
Dungbeetles are actually very useful creatures, so it just doesn't fit.
rummblestrips
03-23-2007, 04:25 PM
I wonder who's going to zapped with legal action in coming days and months?
Only one person
RICK!
And I use the word person loosely.
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 04:27 PM
Good lord, he sounds so childish in his responses. There's a lot of work being done by many people to ensure that Rick doesn't screw anyone else around, but to be honest, his own words really do help our side of the fight.
I mean, PEEP PEEP???!?!
Is he sitting at his computer saying to himself, "Yes, I am clevvar, more clevvar than all those pukees."
Keep em coming Rick, you're helping our cause just by opening your big yap.
He the website wrong! :p
Also he forgets that a verbal contract is still a contract. Even a "handshake agreement" is still actionable it's just harder to prove. But there is no more of a slam dunk case than the amount of evidence we have at Unscrewed for those that want to sue him.
The NDA thing is also what I call bullshit on. an NDA is to protect sensetive information from falling into the hands of competitors. If you don't produce a product ever, you have no competitors so there is no secret thing. Also it does not protect you from someone saying "this guy hasn't paid me."
All it does is stop people from giving another company detailed information on your characters and marketing ideas.
And I'd also like to say isn't it funny that Unscrewed has made more in 3 weeks than his "company" has in 4 years? :p
Tegan
03-23-2007, 04:27 PM
You now have as much of an answer as you deserve. I doubt if it'll
impress you as much as a legal deposition action will.
Actually, any legal deposition coming from Olney would impress me to the point of heart attack. Unless it was written in crayon. That would be par for the course.
Sarah Beach
03-23-2007, 04:28 PM
Oh! an afterthought --
From the depths of pond scum--
You now have as much of an answer as you deserve. I doubt if it'll
impress you as much as a legal deposition action will.
Huh?
Is he making another one of those vacuous threats of legal action against me? Or is he saying he's actually going to submit to giving a "legal deposition action"? Now wouldn't that be interesting, if so?
I thought it was a hoot about his reference to the "CBR lawyers". I never said that it had been posters who had looked it over! I said lawyers had (that is, the Absurds' lawyers, at the very least). But then, he never gets anything right.
willtupper
03-23-2007, 04:29 PM
DISCUSSION QUESTION :
Is it possible that Rick actually did give money, only to St. Judas Children's Research Hospital instead?
Because, you know.
He's a backstabbing, lying, traitorous sleazebag - and he'd want to support a cause that bred more dog-dung just like him?
Rick Olney makes the baby Jesus weep, and then turns his back on him.
Judas! :eek:
Okay, because this is driving me bonkers here...
The full and proper name is St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. No 's on the end of St. Jude. When shortening the full name of the hospital, it should be simply St. Jude. Again, no 's, unless you are using it in a possessive sense, and even that makes me twitch when used incorrectly. :p
~Bev
Feeling nit-picky today! :p
Blake Petit
03-23-2007, 04:29 PM
And I'd also like to say isn't it funny that Unscrewed has made more in 3 weeks than his "company" has in 4 years? :p
I never thought of it that way, but that's currently my favorite detail in this while thing. :D
Blake Petit
03-23-2007, 04:34 PM
Is he making another one of those vacuous threats of legal action against me? Or is he saying he's actually going to submit to giving a "legal deposition action"? Now wouldn't that be interesting, if so?
Is "legal deposition action" even a real term? It sounds like something you'd hear on a crappy Fox network promo.
"This week, on an all new LAW AND PUNISHMENT: CBR -- Rick threatens Tony! Scott files his lawsuit! And is a romance brewing between Bev and Sarah? Don't miss all the legal deposition action!"
NatGertler
03-23-2007, 04:46 PM
Or is he saying he's actually going to submit to giving a "legal deposition action"? "Legal deposition action" is a phrase so terrifying that it must not be said on the World Wide Web! At least judging by the fact that Google can find not a single occurrence of the phrase...
Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 04:50 PM
Is "legal deposition action" even a real term? It sounds like something you'd hear on a crappy Fox network promo.
"This week, on an all new LAW AND PUNISHMENT: CBR -- Rick threatens Tony! Scott files his lawsuit! And is a romance brewing between Bev and Sarah? Don't miss all the legal deposition action!"
*pulls up chair*
*makes popcorn*
rummblestrips
03-23-2007, 04:57 PM
I posted over at the Super Hero board as well. I'm certainly not as eloquent as Sarah or Tony, but I thought I would try and help. I sent the message directly to the owner, I hope he posts it
Hello,I hope you feel comfortable posting this message on your board. I promise never to post about Rick Olney again as I want your board to go back to giving us news about comics! But, I hope you do listen and rid your group of this terrible human being, Rick Olney and all his advertisements from your site. You do NOT want to be connected with this man.
Dear fellow Comic book creators,
I will also add my name to the list of people out to warn the entire comic community about Rick Olney. Please, for your own good, stay way from ever dealing with this man. His long history of hurting the weakest link in the comic's field, the new comers and small pressers is well documented online. Just look up the name RICK OLNEY on google and take a few hours to read how he claimed George Lucas created a Star Wars character in Rick Olney's image, read about how Rick Olney is the actual creator of FREE COMIC BOOK DAY, read all of the horror stories of how Rick hurt many people over at the unscrewed comic website.
If you have any doubts about what a horrible and deceitful person he is, this will change your mind, and I ONLY state this because this is a well respected comic news outlet and those reading this, NEED to know what is happening. Rick advertised at his last and only Mighty Mini con that he was raising funds for the ST Jude's Children's Hospital, and their logo is clearly visible on his booklet for the show. He then stated online that all the donations he collected raised 500 dollars for the hospital. Recently, the hospital was contacted to see if this was true.. and it is not. They have no record of ever receiving money from Rick Olney, Tightlip Entertainment, Mighty Mini Con or ORCA. So, Rick Olney not only preys on comic writers, artists and creators, he prey's on Children with Cancer.
Like Sarah, I have no stake in this fight. Rick owes me nothing. I only spread the word because I know for a FACT that Rick is the lowest of the low and should never be allowed to work in comics again.
Thank you for letting me speak my mind here.
Joanne Ellen Mutch
Papergirl
03-23-2007, 04:58 PM
Is "legal deposition action" even a real term? It sounds like something you'd hear on a crappy Fox network promo.
"This week, on an all new LAW AND PUNISHMENT: CBR -- Rick threatens Tony! Scott files his lawsuit! And is a romance brewing between Bev and Sarah? Don't miss all the legal deposition action!"
Sarah and I will never tell! ;)
~Bev
Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 04:58 PM
While Rick Olney's messages offer many, many absurd things...
Respectfully,
Rick Olney
How funny is that?
JTPencils
03-23-2007, 04:59 PM
....And now, for a bit of needed humor.
2 priests walk into a bar. Suddenly, they're struck by lightning. The end.
2 parrots walk into a bar. One parrot says "Polly wanna drink".
The other parrot says "Polly wanna drink". The end.
Not funny? Probably not. But after the preceeding posts, it's like dragging a watermelon out of ass. Everybody just chill out.
Please do not send me any anti semitic "Mel Gibson's bastard son" mails... but I still love
"Two Jews walk into a bar...
And buy it"
rummblestrips
03-23-2007, 04:59 PM
Sarah and I will never tell! ;)
~Bev
If there is, I want pictures
...did I just say that out loud...
Magneto_X
03-23-2007, 05:03 PM
And the really really cool part? That bid came from a person who has already spent money in the last auction. All the way from Canada.
See that, Rick? People in other countries have your number too. Sweden, Mexico, Canada, USA...internationally known as a fraud, liar, con man, coward, bully, and thief.
Australia, too.
Besides me there's Paul Newell (Hairbutt the Hippo etc penciller) and The Wraith (comic writer). :D
Magneto_X
03-23-2007, 05:05 PM
Come to WW Chicago and fight me. I am so confident that I will beat your ass, I will agree to pay all the debts you have to the creators here if you win. I don't know how the fuck I'd do that, but I will find a way if you are able to take me out. BUT...this is not going to be some kind of boxing match; this is going to be an MMA fight that follows IFL rules. So you'd better be ready to get choked the fuck out.
You won't even need to have no rules apply on Reek.
All you need is to run up some stairs and take himself out attempting to climb it. lol
Papergirl
03-23-2007, 05:06 PM
If there is, I want pictures
...did I just say that out loud...
Joanne, you'd be a participant! ;)
~Bev
Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 05:07 PM
If there is, I want pictures
...did I just say that out loud...
Share?
Joanne, you'd be a participant! ;)
~Bev
*brings a jumbo sized box of tissues*
Magneto_X
03-23-2007, 05:14 PM
Personally I'd laugh my ass completely off if it were found out that Gen Jack here is in reality, Bill Goldberg, and just a closet comics nut. Then I'd definitely pay to watch that match!!!
(But I could be wrong)...
The wrestlers Sting and Rob Van Dam are huge comic fans, too. I'm sure they'd *love* a shot at taking Reek down a peg or two.
TonyIsabella
03-23-2007, 05:16 PM
I'm feeling a bit cranky today, having received some medical news that wasn't as positive as my daughter's. So, if I pissed off anyone other than Rick Olney, they have my apologies.
I'm taking the rest of tonight off, speaking at a college and having dinner with Bob Ingersoll tomorrow, and trying to cross a whole bunch of little things from my "to do" list on Sunday.
But, before I call it a night, I did make one more post to Super Hero News:
Dear Friends...
I regret that, in warning against an unscrupulous individual, I've given that individual a forum to further attack those he has wronged and those who stand by those he has wronged. That's far removed from the intended purpose of this group.
So, instead, I will again direct you to the Unscrewed website...
http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/
...where you will find all the evidence anyone could need to reveal the true character of the individual in question.
On that site, you will also find a version of the warning I have posted here about the individual. I did not write this version of the warning, but it does incorporate some of my language.
Here are the actual comics professionals who have signed the warning to date. I have no doubt others will sign in the near future.
Shelly Kennedy, Webmaster Unscrewed!
Danny Donovan, Various independent Comics, 911 Emergency Relief by Alternative Comics, Radio Free Comicks
Dave Rothe, Ant #'s 6-9 from Image Comics
Tom Stillwell, Writer/Creator of The Honor Brigade from Spinner Rack Comics
Kurt Busiek, Astro City, Superman
Paul D. Storrie, Revisionary, Gotham Girls, Robin Hood
Scott Reed, Web's Best Comics
Tony Isabella, Black Lightning, Tony's Tips
Chuck Dixon, DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, Bongo, Wildstorm
Joanne Ellen Mutch, Rummblestrips, Potlatch, LOTR sketch card artist,
Kevin Huxford, ShotgunReviews.com/Newsarama Contributor
Timothy J Tobolski, UNSCREWED! editor-in-chief
Jim Taylor, The Wraith
Mike Bullock, Lions Tigers & Bears, The Phantom
Blake M. Petit, Comixtreme.com
Scott Shaw!, CAPTAIN CARROT, THE SIMPSONS, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG
Jeff Austin, AC Comics
James Ritchey III, Green Lama, Team Defiant!
Danielle Sylvie Taylor, Hollow
Colin McMahon, New Dimension Comics-McMurray
Wil Radcliffe, Noggle Stones
Larime Taylor, Writer/Creator of HOLLOW, Archaia Studios Press
Mercedes R Lackey, Valdemar Series, DAW Books
Larry Dixon, DAW, Baen Books
Jim MacQuarrie, MonkeySpit.net
Alice Woodside, The Daredevil Anniversary Art Quilt Project
Sean McKeever, writer
Steven D. Forbes, Writer of Bullet Time, Co-Writer of Fallen Justice, EiC of Paper Dragonz
Koben Kelly, Newsarama.com, Best Shots, ShotgunReviews.com
Sarah Beach, editor, writer - Shooting Star Comics Anthology #1, Unscrewed! anthology
Lance Boucher, Inter-Fan Productions
Colleen Doran, A Distant Soil
Nat Gertler, About Comics
Johanna Draper Carlson, Comics Worth Reading
Joe Zierman, artist - Big Bang Comics
Martin R. Oakley, formerly of Bloodstained Productions, writer/artist
Kneon Transitt, Gemstone Publishing
Gail Simone, Birds of Prey, Villains United, Gen13, Welcome to Tranquility, Atom
Quite an impressive list, isn't it?
At least one of the above has already *successfully* sued the individual in the state of Florida. He was awarded his claim of the monies due on the invoiced work, interest on that amount, and court costs.
This is not the only lawsuit the individual has lost and, I suspect, he will lose many more in the months to come.
Myself and others will continue to post regular warnings in the interest of preventing this individual from inflicting harm on anyone else.
Again, I direct you to the Unscrewed website for the facts...
http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/
And, again, I apologize for inadvertantly subverting the purpose of the Super Hero News group. In my 35 years as a working professional in the comics industry, I have seen too many decent people cheated and abused.
This time, at least, we can do something about it.
Tony Isabella
This is the kind of thing I'll be posting in the future, only mentioning Olney's name when necessary. The facts and Olney's own remarks make the case against him far better than anything else.
Thanks to Sarah and anyone else who posted - I haven't checked my e-mail yet, so I don't know who else did post - but I think directing people to the facts is more effective than debating someone as clueless, delusional, and
vile as Olney.
I'm still hoping to see many of you at Comic-Con International, but it's not a certainty that I will be able to attend.
And, of course, there's always Mid-Ohio-Con. I hear the Program Director of that show is a swell guy.
Much love to all, even those of you who haven't sent me nude snapshots of yourselves. Hey, Tom, I might have some more auction items for you. :)
Tony
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 05:22 PM
I'm feeling a bit cranky today, having received some medical news that wasn't as positive as my daughter's. So, if I pissed off anyone other than Rick Olney, they have my apologies.
I'm taking the rest of tonight off, speaking at a college and having dinner with Bob Ingersoll tomorrow, and trying to cross a whole bunch of little things from my "to do" list on Sunday.
But, before I call it a night, I did make one more post to Super Hero News:
This is the kind of thing I'll be posting in the future, only mentioning Olney's name when necessary. The facts and Olney's own remarks make the case against him far better than anything else.
Thanks to Sarah and anyone else who posted - I haven't checked my e-mail yet, so I don't know who else did post - but I think directing people to the facts is more effective than debating someone as clueless, delusional, and
vile as Olney.
I'm still hoping to see many of you at Comic-Con International, but it's not a certainty that I will be able to attend.
And, of course, there's always Mid-Ohio-Con. I hear the Program Director of that show is a swell guy.
Much love to all, even those of you who haven't sent me nude snapshots of yourselves. Hey, Tom, I might have some more auction items for you. :)
Tony
Feel better Tony!
If there's anything I cna do just hollar.
JTPencils
03-23-2007, 05:23 PM
Share?
*brings a jumbo sized box of tissues*
Dammit Matt... down in front. Can't see a damn thing from up here in the balcony... and stop chomping the popcorn so loudly either!! It's killing my vibe!!
Oh yeah baby!!
Danny Donovan
03-23-2007, 05:24 PM
If anyone is interested there is a good chance that the latest Unscrewed! press release may make it on Google News on the 24th.
Sarah Beach
03-23-2007, 05:28 PM
I'm feeling a bit cranky today, having received some medical news that wasn't as positive as my daughter's. So, if I pissed off anyone other than Rick Olney, they have my apologies.
I'm taking the rest of tonight off, speaking at a college and having dinner with Bob Ingersoll tomorrow, and trying to cross a whole bunch of little things from my "to do" list on Sunday.
Tony, I'm sorry to hear you got a set-back of any sort like that. My prayers for you - and the whole family: better health all around!
Concerning the rest --
This is the kind of thing I'll be posting in the future, only mentioning Olney's name when necessary. The facts and Olney's own remarks make the case against him far better than anything else.
Thanks to Sarah and anyone else who posted - I haven't checked my e-mail yet, so I don't know who else did post - but I think directing people to the facts is more effective than debating someone as clueless, delusional, and
vile as Olney.
Makes sense to me. That and/or stiff formality - to contrast his frothing-at-the-mouth manner.
I'm still hoping to see many of you at Comic-Con International, but it's not a certainty that I will be able to attend.
And, of course, there's always Mid-Ohio-Con. I hear the Program Director of that show is a swell guy.
Much love to all, even those of you who haven't sent me nude snapshots of yourselves. Hey, Tom, I might have some more auction items for you. :)
Tony
I hope you can indeed make it to San Diego! I'd love to make a face-to-face at some point.
But most importantly, you take care of your health! (And no, no nude pix of me! No. :) )
Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 05:28 PM
Dammit Matt... down in front. Can't see a damn thing from up here in the balcony... and stop chomping the popcorn so loudly either!! It's killing my vibe!!
Oh yeah baby!!
Sorry. My penis tends to block the view of some.
Blake Petit
03-23-2007, 05:29 PM
Get better, Tony. You'll be in my prayers.
Matt Doc Martin
03-23-2007, 05:29 PM
(And no, no nude pix of me! No. :) )
I won't deny you, Tony.
You want jpeg's or bmp's?
JTPencils
03-23-2007, 05:34 PM
Sorry. My penis tends to block the view of some.
Penis? Crap, I thought you had just brought a sickly child with you and had him sitting on your lap!!
Ummmmmmm... Can those be WMV's instead of JPEGS? LOL!
Reverend Smooth
03-23-2007, 05:38 PM
If anyone is interested there is a good chance that the latest Unscrewed! press release may make it on Google News on the 24th.Dude! o.o Details.
I hope things turn out ok re: your health, Tony. ._.
JamesRitcheyIII
03-23-2007, 05:42 PM
"Legal deposition action" is a phrase so terrifying that it must not be said on the World Wide Web! At least judging by the fact that Google can find not a single occurrence of the phrase...
So--um...what you're saying is that my Ultra-Extralegal, Super-Secret Depositionable Action, Omega-Judiciary Counter-Suit, Claim of Malfeasance won't hold up against it in court--because his is so secret???
DAMMIT!
I should have known that 'Fancy-Soundin' Internet Lawyering to use Against Angry Closet-Fascist Cheapskate Retards'TM mail-order book was a rip-off.
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