Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[TomStillwell]

Guess what I got in the mail today?

The return receipt for my certified letter that I mailed to Rick Olney last week. It was signed for on the 13th; what day did Dickless change the promo about the Unscrewed glass?

Clearly it's a clever ploy by his legal teams to lull you into complacency.

[Papergirl]

By the way, guess what *I* got in the mail today! I got a nice donation for Unscrewed from Joshua Pantalleresco. :D

Thank you so much, Joshua! I am off to the bank in a little bit to deposit it into the account! :)

~Bev

[TomStillwell]

By the way, guess what *I* got in the mail today! I got a nice donation for Unscrewed from Joshua Pantalleresco. :D

Thank you so much, Joshua! I am off to the bank in a little bit to deposit it into the account! :)

~Bev

Way to go, Joshy Pants!

[Danny Donovan]

Just to let everyone know,

I got an e-mail from Scott Greene over at AICN. He's corrected that blurb on the site.

So YAY fixed!

[Inkpot1965]

Back in the late Seventies, a friend of mine subscribed to SUPER FRIENDS -- in the name of his cat.

Shortly thereafter, "You have been approved for a credit card" applications began to arrive addressed to "Eustacia J. Pidguin." So apparently MasterCharge and Visa were willing to troll for customers in the subscription rolls of SUPER FRIENDS, way back when mood rings and Skittles were the big advertisers in comics.

For years, the fanciest of the "You have been approved" certtificated was taped to the wall -- low, near the baseboard, just over Eustacia's food dish.

kdb

I thought it was interesting the types of junk mail I would get. A bottle of pheromones that can attract women [If it were that easy, there wouldn't be a lonely man in the world]. Several series of books about unexplained phenomena [which I had to order, of course]. These companies must think sci-fi fans are pretty wacky.:rolleyes:

[Inkpot1965]

Try having MY name. I love seeing all the attempts to spell that lovely Norwegian last name I got from my lovely husband. Heh.

The name Tegan makes me think of a Dr. Who sidekick back in the early 80's.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Regarding the Zarnock blog announcement on the "Mighty Mini-Con" myspace page...

did anyone else find this excerpt slightly amusing?

He made his screen debut playing Artie, the sleazy comic book publisher in the "Catch Your Breath Productions", film "Detour"...

These days it seems irony swirls about Olney as much as his B.O.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Folks, if you are an industry professional (retailer, creator, media, publisher) interested in getting the word out about Olney please PM me when you are able.

I have something you should see.

Could you give me a preview by PM?

Mr. Zarnock has been contacted. I see that he's into charity work. I made sure he was aware Olney is being investigated for charity fraud.

Ok...also PM me (if you can't say here) his response.

While you guys are at it, you might want to contact the Hero Initiative

http://www.heroinitiative.org/

Olney has them on his top friends list at myspace. Not that it means anything. But I figured they should be made aware of his dubious practices involving other charities, etc.

Has anyoen done this? Tom? Do you want to do the honors here?

Guess what I got in the mail today?

The return receipt for my certified letter that I mailed to Rick Olney last week. It was signed for on the 13th; what day did Dickless change the promo about the Unscrewed glass?


Cockroach is TOAST!

[Darediva]

My Unscrewed hat turned up today!

Yay!!

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Allllriiiiiiiiiight! Looks good on ya, too!

[Danny Donovan]

you know it's funny, Rick quickly changed "Blue Scarab" to "Battle bug" after finding out here that it was taken..

I wonder how long Monster Squad will be the title of an "upcoming TLE book"?

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1886098740

[Matt Doc Martin]

you know it's funny, Rick quickly changed "Blue Scarab" to "Battle bug" after finding out here that it was taken..

I wonder how long Monster Squad will be the title of an "upcoming TLE book"?

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1886098740

Wolfman has NARDS!

This needs to come out on DVD.

[Matt Doc Martin]

YAY!!! Another potential guest for MMC is now not going! Another creator saved, more bad press for Olney.

You lose again, cockroach. And if I were you, I would heed my warning about your last MySpace entry.

If you think I have been mean to you before, you haven't seen ANYTHING yet.

Or fuck with me and see what happens. Your choice.:evilangry

[DocAbsurd]

Not going!?! Who's not going? Apart from the general populace, that is.

[Danny Donovan]

I was watching Be Cool on cable, and something Cedric The Entertainer's character said reminded me of when Rick went off on his racist epitaphs...

Sin LaSalle (http://imdb.com/name/nm0147825/): Have you lost your mind? I mean, how is it that you can disrespect a mans ethnicity when you know we've influenced nearly every facet of white America... from our music to our style of dress. Not to mention your basic imitation of our sense of cool; walk, talk, dress, mannerisms... we enrich your very existence, all the while contributing to the gross national product through our achievements in corporate America. It's these conceits that comfort me when I am faced with the ignorant, cowardly, bitter and bigoted, who *have* no talent, no guts? people like you who desecrate things they don't understand when the truth is - you should say thank-you, man? and go on about your way. But apparently you are incapable of doing that! So...

[shoots his gun]

Sin LaSalle (http://imdb.com/name/nm0147825/): ... and don't tell me to be cool. I *am* cool!

For some reason that amused me so I thought I'd share it. :p

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Way to go, Joshy Pants!

I'm the pants FOR LIFE eh? ;)

No biggee. Just figured that'd be the least I could do.

JP

[Flamebird]

So does this mean we can't throw the Mighty Mini Lepra-Con?

No, but RO is gonna throw the Mighty mini Leper "con".











No one will come within a hundred miles for fear of contamination.

[TomStillwell]

Oh, poor poor, Olney...

-----Original Message-----
From: KrellmanGroup@aol.com [mailto:KrellmanGroup@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 4:29 PM
To: Stillwell, Tom
Subject: Re: Rick Olney and Mighty Mini-Con


In a message dated 3/16/2007 3:27:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Stillwel@_________ writes:
Thanks for listening.

Tom Stillwell
Writer/Creator The Honor Brigade
www.honorbrigade.com

Mr. Stillwell,
Thank you so much for your heads-up!
I will certainly take it under advisement and yes, I have read much about Mr. Olney and his attempts at putting on a show.
I don't have any signed contracts yet, but from what I read, it makes no difference.....
If I may ask, where did you see my name posted? This is the first that I have heard of any advertisement.
Thanx again.
Michael Zarnock

The Krellman Group
For official website please click here.
If link is not available for your browser,
copy and past address into your address bar and click enter.

[Koben Kelly]

Way to go, Joshy Pants!

See! See! Baaaaaaadass!

[G-Spot]

"...If I may ask, where did you see my name posted? This is the first that I have heard of any advertisement.
Thanx again.
Michael Zarnock"

BWAAHAAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! Oh man, that's rich! The guy is an "official" guest, and didn't know it. Heh...!

One thing I found funny, was that everytime he's added a "guest" they automatically get moved to the Top 10 of his "Friends" listings on MySpace.

Oh...and he's still got Billy Tucci listed in his "Mighty Mini-'Con'" MySpace page.

[NatGertler]

This needs to come out on DVD.Monster Squad? You mean like the DVD that's been announced (http://www.mania.com/themovielord/blog/187.html) for October 2007?

[NatGertler]

BWAAHAAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! Oh man, that's rich! The guy is an "official" guest, and didn't know it. Heh...!I don't think he said that. He didn't know that it had been announced; that doesn't mean he didn't know he was an official guest.

[OzBat!]

I will certainly take it under advisement and yes, I have read much about Mr. Olney and his attempts at putting on a show.
I don't have any signed contracts yet, but from what I read, it makes no difference.....HAHAHAHAHAAAA! This is brilliant. He already knows about Olney's piss-poor reputation, AND the validity of his "contracts". BEFORE TOM WROTE TO HIM!

That's just brilliant!

[OzBat!]

I don't think he said that. He didn't know that it had been announced; that doesn't mean he didn't know he was an official guest.Nat: he hadn't been sent contracts yet, but Olney was still trumpeting it as fact.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Monster Squad? You mean like the DVD that's been announced (http://www.mania.com/themovielord/blog/187.html) for October 2007?
Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

[Flamebird]

But I thought ricky boy wasn't gonna announce his guests till April 15th?



Does this mean He LIED? :eek:


The world no longer makes sense to me ;)

[Matt Doc Martin]

But I thought ricky boy wasn't gonna announce his guests till April 15th?



Does this mean He LIED? :eek:


The world no longer makes sense to me ;)

He changed his announcement to say "BY" April 15th. But I look every day anyhow.

And Rick...I may create a NEW MySpace identity JUST to send warnings to everyone.

You stupid, stupid cockroach.

[OzBat!]

The June 2007 guest roster for the Mighty MiniCon being held on the 23rd & 24th of June will be posted no later then April 15th. No new guests will be added after that date. Thank you.
And curiously, there are no guests listed now at all. Somebody still can't resist reading here and then scurrying about trying to correct all his mistakes!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Jesus. I don't know if it has been posted yet, but NOW it is "Devil Bug".

And still allegedly trademarked AND copyrighted.
I guess that is what happens when you have TWO teams of formal lawyers!

[NatGertler]

Jesus. I don't know if it has been posted yet, but NOW it is "Devil Bug".You mean like "Devil Bugs", which was registered as a trademark back in 1922, with the last listed owner being Eppinger Mfg. Co.?

[TomStillwell]

Or the Devil Bug indie film made by J.M. Winn?

[Matt Doc Martin]

You mean like "Devil Bugs", which was registered as a trademark back in 1922, with the last listed owner being Eppinger Mfg. Co.?

Probably.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/BS-POSTER.jpg

Where is the Devil?


And the fingers on his left hand?

[Danny Donovan]

Jesus. I don't know if it has been posted yet, but NOW it is "Devil Bug".

And still allegedly trademarked AND copyrighted.
I guess that is what happens when you have TWO teams of formal lawyers!

http://www.jerrystuxshop.com/retailtuxedo2.jpg

"Welcome to Chez Leaggle.. There is presently a 4hr wait for lawsuits against my client but if you don't mind the wait please follow me to the bar and help your self to some complimentary nuts in honor of our insanity defense."

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://www.jerrystuxshop.com/retailtuxedo2.jpg

"Welcome to Chez Leaggle.. There is presently a 4hr wait for lawsuits against my client but if you don't mind the wait please follow me to the bar and help your self to some complimentary nuts in honor of our insanity defense."

*applause*

[Danny Donovan]

Probably.


Where is the Devil?


And the fingers on his left hand?

Silly Matt,

Bugs don't have fingers.

I have some critiques of the image, it really COULD be very dynamic. But I think I've helped Rick enough by explaining the difference between manga and anime.

[Danny Donovan]

*applause*

*bows*

Thank yew! thank yew! I'll be here all week. ;)

tip your waitresses and try the happy meals.

[Papergirl]

Hmmmm... Speaking of bugs... This has been bugging ME for a while now: Dickless has still never answered my questions.

Hey, DEADBEAT!

Yeah, I know you're reading this, Dickless. So, how about the answers to my two questions:

1.) What is the name of the book EVERY Marine receives and what is the color of the cover?

2.) What is a DD-214?

With much loathing for lying deadbeats,

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

Silly Matt,

Bugs don't have fingers.

I have some critiques of the image, it really COULD be very dynamic. But I think I've helped Rick enough by explaining the difference between manga and anime.

Which he then changed on his entry!

And you would think being banned from here would encourage him to stay away!

Who wants to let the big lug back?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Hmmmm... Speaking of bugs... This has been bugging ME for a while now: Dickless has still never answered my questions.

Hey, DEADBEAT!

Yeah, I know you're reading this, Dickless. So, how about the answers to my two questions:

1.) What is the name of the book EVERY Marine receives and what is the color of the cover?

2.) What is a DD-214?

With much loathing for lying deadbeats,

~Bev

For crying out loud, cockroach! Take some time from your wikiped...I mean your lawyer meetings and look it up with your lawye...I mean on wikipedia.

[Papergirl]

Shhh! No giving Dickless clues, Matt! :p

~Bev

[Danny Donovan]

Who wants to let the big lug back?

Not me.

He used his little "meltdowns" as a way to get people to have everyone focused on fighting him and not on the matters of the day. He might be fine about announcing things that never happen but I think we should be spending our time deflating lies and keeping Unscrewed! running without the majority of people running in just to play with the kid in the helmet.

:p

[Blake Petit]

Probably.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/BS-POSTER.jpg

Where is the Devil?


And the fingers on his left hand?

Anyone else want to whistle the Spider-Man theme?

[Inkpot1965]

But I thought ricky boy wasn't gonna announce his guests till April 15th?



Does this mean He LIED? :eek:


The world no longer makes sense to me ;)

April 15th would've been too taxing.

[Papergirl]

Anyone else want to whistle the Spider-Man theme?
*slowly raises her hand*

Me.

~Bev

[Ethan Van Sciver]

I want to sing it.

[Danny Donovan]

Y'know Devil Bug's vehicle (is it his vehicle?) reminds me a lot of TOR from the Power Rangers.

http://www.rangercentral.com/images/tor2.jpg

[Charles RB]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/BS-POSTER.jpg


Is that meant to be a hand?

[Charles RB]

Y'know Devil Bug's vehicle (is it his vehicle?) reminds me a lot of TOR from the Power Rangers.

http://www.rangercentral.com/images/tor2.jpg

I love Tor. His disgruntled stomping, neck-waving and going "rararar!" at evil make me happy.

[rummblestrips]

Guys, just remember, he might post "fake" guest announcements on his page knowing that someone here will contact them and tell them not to go.

Or is that too clever for him?

[NatGertler]

I'm not sure that opening himself up to right-of-publicity lawsuits would count as "clever".

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'm not sure that opening himself up to right-of-publicity lawsuits would count as "clever".

I'd bet any amount of money that Dube was a plant. NO ONE is that stupid in real life. Not even Olney.

Ok, maybe Olney.

[Magneto_X]

If "Devil Bug" is an insect why does he have webbed fingers?

Is he part fish or something? :confused:

[Magneto_X]

I'm not sure that opening himself up to right-of-publicity lawsuits would count as "clever".

He'd do it. Olney has proven he'd do anything against his interests again and again.

[Matt Doc Martin]

If "Devil Bug" is an insect why does he have webbed fingers?

Is he part fish or something? :confused:


The Devil made him!

[Cam63]

Nat: he hadn't been sent contracts yet, but Olney was still trumpeting it as fact.

Marines are trained to improvise, you know.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Marines are trained to improvise, you know.

So what does that have to do with Rick?

[Cam63]

Good point.

[CutterMike]

My Unscrewed hat turned up today!

Yay!!

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Hey, Danny...! The hat competition has just heated up!

[Darediva]

Hmmmm... Speaking of bugs... This has been bugging ME for a while now: Dickless has still never answered my questions.

Hey, DEADBEAT!

Yeah, I know you're reading this, Dickless. So, how about the answers to my two questions:

1.) What is the name of the book EVERY Marine receives and what is the color of the cover?

2.) What is a DD-214?

With much loathing for lying deadbeats,

~Bev

And this is NOT what she is asking about.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7179/dd214ba7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Papergirl]

And this is NOT what she is asking about.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7179/dd214ba7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I think I love you for that! :)

You will be at Cape, yes?

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

I think I love you for that! :)

You will be at Cape, yes?

~Bev

Yeah..she may be my ride!

[Danny Donovan]

Hey, Danny...! The hat competition has just heated up!

lol. Actually that's one of my zazzle hats I think.

[Tegan]

The name Tegan makes me think of a Dr. Who sidekick back in the early 80's.

What a coincidence! That's where the nickname came from! I was named after Tegan in Dr Who because I was, like her, a motor-mouth that never shut up.

[Darediva]

I think I love you for that! :)

You will be at Cape, yes?

~Bev

Yes, I'm scheduled to be at CAPE. Already have the arrangements made with the Zeus guys for some power for the sewing machine so I can demo how I do my Hero Threads.

Looking forward to meeting you guys at CAPE, and giving Matt a lift if that all works out for everyone.

[bert]

And this is NOT what she is asking about.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7179/dd214ba7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nah. .

DD-214 is the cup size for peanut's BRO. . .'cause you know, anyone that hefty has got some big ol man-boobs.

[CutterMike]

lol. Actually that's one of my zazzle hats I think.

Man! Talk about hedging your bets!

[Inkpot1965]

What a coincidence! That's where the nickname came from! I was named after Tegan in Dr Who because I was, like her, a motor-mouth that never shut up.

That's what sidekicks are for. ;)

[Darediva]

Nah. .

DD-214 is the cup size for peanut's BRO. . .'cause you know, anyone that hefty has got some big ol man-boobs.

Hey, bert...get my email?

[bert]

Hey, bert...get my email?

yep. . .and I just responded (twice).

:)

[Danny Donovan]

Man! Talk about hedging your bets!

I like cornering the market. :p

Actually there are two things I started the cafepress.com/unscrewed thing, but slowly started going over to using my zazzle.com/dannydonovan account because cafepress makes you pay to join their "premire account" thing to be able to have the same product with a different design on it, whereas Zazzle lets you put up however many things you want.

But both will remain open and valid in case there was something only CP had.

just tryin' to pull my weight! ;)

[DaveRothe]

Probably.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/BS-POSTER.jpg

Where is the Devil?


And the fingers on his left hand?

What the hell is that bug thing doing to Spidey? Or is that part of him too?

[bert]

guys. .

why are y'all picking on this picture?

it's honestly not bad. Everyone has a different style, and if it's not to your taste? fine. I despise big-eyed manga crap. . but it doesn't mean the artist isn't talented.

the Stinky one didn't draw this picture. . . someone did it for him.

don't misplace your distaste for pRick towards someone who is trying to work.

[Charles RB]

guys. .

why are y'all picking on this picture?

Me personally, because the hand looks funny. Other bits of the image I can say "well, that's how his style works", but the hand has stumpy semi-webbed fingers and that's just odd.

[DaveRothe]

guys. .

why are y'all picking on this picture?

it's honestly not bad. Everyone has a different style, and if it's not to your taste? fine. I despise big-eyed manga crap. . but it doesn't mean the artist isn't talented.

the Stinky one didn't draw this picture. . . someone did it for him.

don't misplace your distaste for pRick towards someone who is trying to work.

Burt, I never said he (Jason) wasn't talented. Just curious as to why that particular layout. Though the first part of my comment was in jest the second part wasn't. It could appear (from that angle) to be a Micronaut type of thing which I really would like to know. Is Rick "borrowing" from the Micronauts now? Hmmmm... could be.

[Danny Donovan]

guys. .

why are y'all picking on this picture?

it's honestly not bad. Everyone has a different style, and if it's not to your taste? fine. I despise big-eyed manga crap. . but it doesn't mean the artist isn't talented.

the Stinky one didn't draw this picture. . . someone did it for him.

don't misplace your distaste for pRick towards someone who is trying to work.

It's created by Rick, but you are right. I don't think anyone is being terribly overtly mean. Like I said, there's a lot there that could be a fantastically dynamic manga thing.

Although this isn't what I would dub as manga.

<mick foley style shameless plug> This:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/nocturne_poster_03_layout.jpg


is more of a manga style. *thumbs up and goofy smile* </ mick foley style shameless plug>


Jason has what has been dubbed more of an amerimanga style, if you must quantify it as such. Popularized by the likes of J.S. Campbell, Joe Mad, etc. with a mix of the graphitti style of Jim Mahfood, Scottie Young and the like.

I have nothing against Jason's picture there, as I've said in the past it's a fine sketch. But as a teaser image it leaves a lot to be desired. When you are releasing promo art, there's a lot you have to look at. In terms of

a.) style - how effectively does this image convey what your project is about

b.) marketability - how different does this look to stand out from the 1,000s of other teaser images out there

and

c.) conciseness - does this image give you all that you need to no about the project?

the last one is the one we're commenting the most about. The thing in the background, is that his vehicle? part of his body?

I don't think anyone is saying he's not a good artist, a lot of people are saying it's not their taste. and like I said I could offer a hundred suggestions on how to make that image better but I won't because I don't need to be fixing other people's properties.

[bert]

. . and I understand the criticism (I really do).

but I also think that he is being judged by association w/ peanut.

and that judgement. . which certainly WILL come, if he continues to work with (can't be "for" because you have to be paid to be working "for" someone) pRick.

but the judgement shouldn't come from the art style.

it's not to my taste, but it's not "bad", and if criticism is being given, it really should be constructive criticism.

I'm sorry. . this is just leaving a bad taste . . the first time I can say that since peanut stopped posting in the thread. . .

[Danny Donovan]

. . and I understand the criticism (I really do).

but I also think that he is being judged by association w/ peanut.

and that judgement. . which certainly WILL come, if he continues to work with (can't be "for" because you have to be paid to be working "for" someone) pRick.

but the judgement shouldn't come from the art style.

it's not to my taste, but it's not "bad", and if criticism is being given, it really should be constructive criticism.

I'm sorry. . this is just leaving a bad taste . . the first time I can say that since peanut stopped posting in the thread. . .


Bert, I understand where you're coming from I really do. But this is what happens when you're in the business. When you post something in public (or someone does it for you) you open yourself up to critiques. Sometimes they can be deserving other times they can be not so.

imo the judgement SHOULD come from the art style. As I said there are a 100 different ways to make that style work as a wonderful promotional piece. And if it were my project I'd have him go back with it with a number of suggestions before he started inking.

I like Jason's potential. I've friended him on comicspace. Myspace as well I think. But this particular image is poorly executed as a promo piece.

As I've said I could give constructive critisisim but I've helped Rick far too much as it is. :p

[Danny Donovan]

Wow. Rick lost 72 people off his myspace friendslist.

[TomStillwell]

What the hell is that bug thing doing to Spidey? Or is that part of him too?

Until now I didn't even realize the two pieces weren't one creature.

[DaveRothe]

Wow. Rick lost 72 people off his myspace friendslist.

How many were potential guests that didn't know it I wonder?

[Darediva]

Wow. Rick lost 72 people off his myspace friendslist.

Must have lost some sockpuppets in the dryer.

[TomStillwell]

Wow. Rick lost 72 people off his myspace friendslist.

They probably found out that he wasn't actually Ric Olie.

"What? You're not from Naboo?!"

[Flamebird]

April 15th would've been too taxing.

Heh!:D


He does seem quite fixated on that date, doesn't he?

Maybe he's hoping for a big tax(fraud)refund this year?

I guess he doesn't realize that the 15th is the DEADLINE not the day people get their checks.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

They probably found out that he wasn't actually Ric Olie.

"What? You're not from Naboo?!"

LMAO

you're a terrible man. I love it.

JP

[TomStillwell]

Folks, if you are an industry professional (retailer, creator, media, publisher) interested in getting the word out about Olney please PM me when you are able.

I have something you should see.

I'm re-posting this in case people didn't see it in all the madness that is this thread.

[Koben Kelly]

Jesus. I don't know if it has been posted yet, but NOW it is "Devil Bug". And still allegedly trademarked AND copyrighted. I guess that is what happens when you have TWO teams of formal lawyers!

Two thoughts:

1. Blue Scarab? Battle Bug? Blue Devil? Wait... I've got it! DEVIL BUG!!

2. Does he think anyone is buying that he's registered all these unregisterable names in a matter of hours? Add one more cowchip to the pile.

[Flamebird]

Bert, I understand where you're coming from I really do. But this is what happens when you're in the business. When you post something in public (or someone does it for you) you open yourself up to critiques. Sometimes they can be deserving other times they can be not so.

imo the judgement SHOULD come from the art style. As I said there are a 100 different ways to make that style work as a wonderful promotional piece. And if it were my project I'd have him go back with it with a number of suggestions before he started inking.

I like Jason's potential. I've friended him on comicspace. Myspace as well I think. But this particular image is poorly executed as a promo piece.

As I've said I could give constructive critisisim but I've helped Rick far too much as it is. :p

I honestly doubt that this was intended to be a promo piece, by the artist.
It looks more like a character sketch, that rick slapped up just to say, "see, I do SO have a book coming out, so THERE"

But, yeah the hand thing is kinda ... :eek:

[Inkpot1965]

Heh!:D


He does seem quite fixated on that date, doesn't he?

Maybe he's hoping for a bi tax(fraud)refund this year?

I guess he doesn't realize that the 15th is the DEADLINE not the day people get their checks.

You'd need to pay taxes to get a refund. Rick doesn't qualify

[Danny Donovan]

I honestly doubt that this was intended to be a promo piece, by the artist.
It looks more like a character sketch, that rick slapped up just to say, "see, I do SO have a book coming out, so THERE"

But, yeah the hand thing is kinda ... :eek:

Regaurdless of original intention, it IS now a promo piece with the bit of hyperbole "Blue Scarab... uh, Battle Beetle... uh, Devil Bug.. The newest and greatest anime, uh manga hero."

So using that to promote an upcoming project makes the piece that proceedes it makes it a promotional piece.

Personally I wouldn't have posted it unless I thought it was a strong piece to go with my concept.

[Inkpot1965]

Regaurdless of original intention, it IS now a promo piece with the bit of hyperbole "Blue Scarab... uh, Battle Beetle... uh, Devil Bug.. The newest and greatest anime, uh manga hero."

So using that to promote an upcoming project makes the piece that proceedes it makes it a promotional piece.

Personally I wouldn't have posted it unless I thought it was a strong piece to go with my concept.

But then, your name isn't Cowchip Olney

[Koben Kelly]

But then, your name isn't Cowchip Olney

Hey, Jeff, since he's taken a liking to Peanut...

I'm thinking of just using Cowchip from now on. You like?

[Inkpot1965]

Hey, Jeff, since he's taken a liking to Peanut...

I'm thinking of just using Cowchip from now on. You like?

Cowchip Olney, the rootinest, tootinest cowpie slinger in the West...or the East....

[Flamebird]

Hey, Jeff, since he's taken a liking to Peanut...

I'm thinking of just using Cowchip from now on. You like?

"STOP BEING MEAN TO COWCHIPS!"







(Yea!!! I finally got to do one!)

I mean really, they don't smell THAT bad. :rolleyes:

[Koben Kelly]

Cowchip and the Leaggle Eaggles :D

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

I'm not going to knock the piece. Keeping in mind here too, Jason is under Ricky's guidance. It may have become a promo piece by default.

JP

[Inkpot1965]

I'm not going to knock the piece. Keeping in mind here too, Jason is under Ricky's guidance. It may have become a promo piece by default.

JP

It may have been produced under duress, for all we know. Threat of lawsuit for not handing out free art.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

It may have been produced under duress, for all we know. Threat of lawsuit for not handing out free art.

The truly sad part is that this point in time, I can see that.

JP

[Richard Sullivan]

You'd need to pay taxes to get a refund. Rick doesn't qualify

He probably qualifies for the EIC.

BTW, I think he got his dates confused. He didn't mean April 15th. He meant April 1st.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

He probably qualifies for the EIC.

BTW, I think he got his dates confused. He didn't mean April 15th. He meant April 1st.

With Rick, every day is April 1st

JP

[Papergirl]

Interestingly, Dickless Wonder took down his post about Matt being a stalker. I guess my (and others', I'm sure) complaint to myspace paid off. :D

~Bev

[Cam63]

The winning times never stop for Olney.

[NatGertler]

Does he think anyone is buying that he's registered all these unregisterable names in a matter of hours? He's not claiming to have registered it. If he were, he'd be using the R-in-the-circle mark. In the US, one doesn't need to have registered a trademark to have a trademark.

[Sarah Beach]

Jesus. I don't know if it has been posted yet, but NOW it is "Devil Bug".

And still allegedly trademarked AND copyrighted.
I guess that is what happens when you have TWO teams of formal lawyers!

I'm behind, catcing up after a day of attending Wizard World LA -- but really! LOL! I was WONDERING how long it would take him! Hehehehehee.

[Danny Donovan]

Who wants to take odds Rick will claim this panel from the newest Busiek Superman issue:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/22.jpg

Is Kurt's way of thanking him for his tireless efforts in the industry?

Same way Lucas thanked him with Ric Ollie.

:p

[willtupper]

Danny!

THANK YOU!

I thought the same thing, but was afraid to make mention of it! :D


Who wants to take odds Rick will claim this panel from the newest Busiek Superman issue:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/22.jpg

Is Kurt's way of thanking him for his tireless efforts in the industry?

Same way Lucas thanked him with Ric Ollie.

:p

[willtupper]

This post was too mean. Even for me. Sorry everybody :).

[Reverend Smooth]

For such a homophobe, Olney's promo art sure does seem to have a lot of references to buttsex and spooge.

[Sarah Beach]

For such a homophobe, Olney's promo art sure does seem to have a lot of references to buttsex and spooge.

It's the incredible frequency of his "nose to butt" references that get me. Eeew. He's fixated on it.

[Sarah Beach]

Oh! Hey, Koben!

It'll amuse you after our exchanges yesterday.... When I went to pick up my registration at Wizard World LA this morning, my badge...... They misspelled "Sarah" as "Sara".


*sigh*

[Gail Simone]

I want to sing it.

Don't you have an Ann Coulter you could be admiring from afar?

;)

Gail

[Samuel Catalino]

Wow. Rick lost 72 people off his myspace friendslist.

Danny,

I could be in error, but the time when I saw it, he had 1007, and now has 944, and that is a loss of 63.

Best,

Samuel

[the4thpip]

Oh, poor poor, Olney...

Sounds like somebody is hot-wheeling it outta there.

[the4thpip]

Probably.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Book%20Art/BS-POSTER.jpg

Where is the Devil?


And the fingers on his left hand?

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/11801061740.1.GIF

http://www.gregmoutafis.com/commissions/bluebeetle.jpg

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/03163930321.1.GIF

[the4thpip]

Don't you have an Ann Coulter you could be admiring from afar?

;)

Gail

True story: My first online exchange with Evan van Sciver was defending Danny Donovan from him, who I didn't know at all at the time, nor did Danny post on the message board where it occurred.

It's all coming together now!

[the4thpip]

Danny,

I could be in error, but the time when I saw it, he had 1007, and now has 944, and that is a loss of 63.

Best,

Samuel

And it didn't occur to you that a few random porn site sluts were added in the time between Danny checking and you doing it?

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Who wants to take odds Rick will claim this panel from the newest Busiek Superman issue:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/22.jpg

Is Kurt's way of thanking him for his tireless efforts in the industry?

Same way Lucas thanked him with Ric Ollie.

:p

LMAO

How fitting.

JP

[Samuel Catalino]

And it didn't occur to you that a few random porn site sluts were added in the time between Danny checking and you doing it?

Did it not occur to you that my comment was:

"I could be in error, but the time when I saw it, he had 1007, and now has 944, and that is a loss of 63."

The discussion was about quantity, not quality. And Danny realizes that my comments on this observation is no way should be construed as an attack on him in any way.

[Mick]

Wow. This thread is ginormous.

[Papergirl]

Did it not occur to you that my comment was:

"I could be in error, but the time when I saw it, he had 1007, and now has 944, and that is a loss of 63."

The discussion was about quantity, not quality. And Danny realizes that my comments on this observation is no way should be construed as an attack on him in any way.
Not very many days ago, he had 1015, Sam.

~Bev

[Inkpot1965]

Not very many days ago, he had 1015, Sam.

~Bev

1015 bottles of beer in his glass wall tribute to Marines out behind his house, maybe.;)

[shanejayell]

Wow. This thread is ginormous.
Yup. and getting bigger. ;)

[Matt Doc Martin]

guys. .

why are y'all picking on this picture?

it's honestly not bad. Everyone has a different style, and if it's not to your taste? fine. I despise big-eyed manga crap. . but it doesn't mean the artist isn't talented.

the Stinky one didn't draw this picture. . . someone did it for him.

don't misplace your distaste for pRick towards someone who is trying to work.

I have a distaste towards him for his actions regarding my warning and the fact I think he was a plant.

Danny,

I could be in error, but the time when I saw it, he had 1007, and now has 944, and that is a loss of 63.

Best,

Samuel

Not very many days ago, he had 1015, Sam.

~Bev

Exactly. It was 1013 yesterday when I looked.

[Samuel Catalino]

Not very many days ago, he had 1015, Sam.

~Bev

Bev,

Yes, it fluctuates.

Best,

Samuel

[Matt Doc Martin]

Cockroach apparently took my advice and removed his post.

He isn't the dumbest person on the planet, I guess.

Of course, now that he has less than 1000 friends, is he not as cool?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Interestingly, Dickless Wonder took down his post about Matt being a stalker. I guess my (and others', I'm sure) complaint to myspace paid off. :D

~Bev

Sorry I missed this, Bev.

And remember, I sent him a REAL LAWYER warning.

[Reverend Smooth]

I can't say anything, I've got, like, six. XD

[Matt Doc Martin]

I can't say anything, I've got, like, six. XD

Show off!;)

[Reverend Smooth]

Show off!;)
Yeah, go me. ^^

[KevinTBrown]

I want to sing it.

Don't you have an Ann Coulter you could be admiring from afar?

;)

Gail

Ethan Van Sciver = pwned.


:p

[the4thpip]

Did it not occur to you that my comment was:

"I could be in error, but the time when I saw it, he had 1007, and now has 944, and that is a loss of 63."

The discussion was about quantity, not quality. And Danny realizes that my comments on this observation is no way should be construed as an attack on him in any way.

No, actually it did not occur to me that you would post completely vacuous posts that do nothing but pamper your ego. But looking back on your history on this board, I shoulda known.

I could be in error, but I think I don't care much for your style.

[DocAbsurd]

First webstrip for UNSCREWED!:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/DocABsurd206/BMWE01.jpg

Gotta work on the re-sizing and color it. Once I finish yet another school project . . .

[generaljackcosmo]

Ok...wait...I apologize because I'm such a johnny-come-lately, but...

Did Olney actually claim that George Lucas named a Star Wars character after him to thank him? Are you fucking kidding me?

Thank him for what?

[Kurt Busiek]

Who wants to take odds Rick will claim this panel from the newest Busiek Superman issue:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/22.jpg

Is Kurt's way of thanking him for his tireless efforts in the industry?

Same way Lucas thanked him with Ric Ollie.

:p

Just in case anyone should get any ideas, it's not even a reference to Olney.

It's a name formed by Oswald (the Prankster) Loomis's initials.

kdb

[Sarah Beach]

Ok...wait...I apologize because I'm such a johnny-come-lately, but...

Did Olney actually claim that George Lucas named a Star Wars character after him to thank him? Are you fucking kidding me?

Thank him for what?

Originally, his story went that he'd had some communications with LucasFilm regarding helping some (or one) sick kid (with cancer, I believe) who was a Star Wars fan. And he & the kid and family were told to see the Episode One film (My guess is to have them mail the ticket stubs to LucasFilm and confirm they saw the film, in order to have something mailed to the kid). This was a letter to him from LucasFilm in response to his approach. (They may have gotten a tour somewhere, I'd have to go check the earliest versions of his story.) Much later, he went into a toy story for something else, and saw the Ric Olie action figure (a very minor character in Episode One, who isn't even named in that film, but rather in the supporting books) - and he bought it, pleased at the similarity of names. He made the assumption at that time that it might be named for him. This assumption later grew to the assertion that it was named for him.

Gail earlier this year tracked down the character creator at LucasFilm for that particular character (ah, nice to have contacts! which one does gain as one's professional career advances [that's an aside to the paramecium, gang!]), which person said that nope, no connection to RO at all.

:D

[Sarah Beach]

Just in case anyone should get any ideas, it's not even a reference to Olney.

It's a name formed by Oswald (the Prankster) Loomis's initials.

kdb

Oh, spoil our fun! :p





Just kidding.

[Mike Bullock]

Just in case anyone should get any ideas, it's not even a reference to Olney.

It's a name formed by Oswald (the Prankster) Loomis's initials.

kdb

Sure, sure. That's as plausible as your "explanation" that CONAN wasn't really, in fact, an homage by you to pay respects to Olney's image as a bronze giant that every man would love to be and every woman would love to be with.

[Danny Donovan]

Originally, his story went that he'd had some communications with LucasFilm regarding helping some (or one) sick kid (with cancer, I believe) who was a Star Wars fan. And he & the kid and family were told to see the Episode One film (My guess is to have them mail the ticket stubs to LucasFilm and confirm they saw the film, in order to have something mailed to the kid). This was a letter to him from LucasFilm in response to his approach. (They may have gotten a tour somewhere, I'd have to go check the earliest versions of his story.) Much later, he went into a toy story for something else, and saw the Ric Olie action figure (a very minor character in Episode One, who isn't even named in that film, but rather in the supporting books) - and he bought it, pleased at the similarity of names. He made the assumption at that time that it might be named for him. This assumption later grew to the assertion that it was named for him.

Gail earlier this year tracked down the character creator at LucasFilm for that particular character (ah, nice to have contacts! which one does gain as one's professional career advances [that's an aside to the paramecium, gang!]), which person said that nope, no connection to RO at all.

:D

Actually the whole story (or one of them) was that he sent a bunch of free comics to Skywalker Ranch/Lucasfilm as part of his Orca thing. And he had a character named Ric Ollie who rick claims gave Anakin Skywalker his first flying lesson (even though he was a pilot LONG before he met Obi Wan and crew) as a thank you to Rick for his long time work in getting kids interested in comics.

Now why we should believe Lucas would need Rick's comics when he has an entire library from Dark Horse with his IP that he could call up at any time I have no idea. :p

This will be short and sweet. Far be it of me to take more of your reading time than fair in a first reincarnated blog entry. The image above is that of Ric Olie of Star Wars: Episode One fame. An action figure named after me for small steps that helped and influenced others, by George Lucas and (maybe) Rick Berman. The character of Ric Olie was played by an actor name of Ralph Brown. Ralph had a few lines in the movie but wasn't mentioned by name. Which suited me fine, as I never expected such an honor in the way of the extended thank you.

And Kurt, I knew what it was about, I just was making a joke at the delusional aspect of Orka-la.

[generaljackcosmo]

Originally, his story went that he'd had some communications with LucasFilm regarding helping some (or one) sick kid (with cancer, I believe) who was a Star Wars fan. And he & the kid and family were told to see the Episode One film (My guess is to have them mail the ticket stubs to LucasFilm and confirm they saw the film, in order to have something mailed to the kid). This was a letter to him from LucasFilm in response to his approach. (They may have gotten a tour somewhere, I'd have to go check the earliest versions of his story.) Much later, he went into a toy story for something else, and saw the Ric Olie action figure (a very minor character in Episode One, who isn't even named in that film, but rather in the supporting books) - and he bought it, pleased at the similarity of names. He made the assumption at that time that it might be named for him. This assumption later grew to the assertion that it was named for him.

Gail earlier this year tracked down the character creator at LucasFilm for that particular character (ah, nice to have contacts! which one does gain as one's professional career advances [that's an aside to the paramecium, gang!]), which person said that nope, no connection to RO at all.

:D

Thanks for filling me in. Unbelievable, this guy.

[KevinTBrown]

First webstrip for UNSCREWED!:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/DocABsurd206/BMWE01.jpg

Gotta work on the re-sizing and color it. Once I finish yet another school project . . .

That's a GREAT strip! :)

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Just in case anyone should get any ideas, it's not even a reference to Olney.

It's a name formed by Oswald (the Prankster) Loomis's initials.

kdb

THE PRANKSTER?!!? Oh MAN! I am missing so freaking much Superman goodness from you on that title. Finally the Superman has come back to DC. Apologies to the Rock. DAMN THIS RECESSION! I speak of my personal recession of course.

[Danny Donovan]

THE PRANKSTER?!!? Oh MAN! I am missing so freaking much Superman goodness from you on that title. Finally the Superman has come back to DC. Apologies to the Rock. DAMN THIS RECESSION! I speak of my personal recession of course.

It was a rather good issue. Although it was kind of wierd reading Nitro G's dialogue after watching "Be Cool" on TV. I kept hearing Vince Vaughn's voice in my head. "twinkle twinkle baby, twinkle twinkle."

:p

[Danny Donovan]

I will say this, it's a shame Rick got banned before St. Patrick's Day. The drunk rantings would have been legendary.

[Gail Simone]

First webstrip for UNSCREWED!:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/DocABsurd206/BMWE01.jpg

Gotta work on the re-sizing and color it. Once I finish yet another school project . . .



HA!

That is hilarious.

My only gripe is I can't see Rick actually doing enough work to type out the title like that. ;)

Gail

[Samuel Catalino]

No, actually it did not occur to me that you would post completely vacuous posts that do nothing but pamper your ego. But looking back on your history on this board, I shoulda known.

I could be in error, but I think I don't care much for your style.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Since you brought it up, from your posts, I don't care much for your "style", either.

Looking on your history on this board, you are just another person looking for a flame war, hence the reason for many of your deragotory comments.

[Samuel Catalino]

Sorry I missed this, Bev.

And remember, I sent him a REAL LAWYER warning.


I noticed it too, Matthew. I wondered how long it was going to stay up.

Good for you.

[Samuel Catalino]

I will say this, it's a shame Rick got banned before St. Patrick's Day. The drunk rantings would have been legendary.


Danny,

Not to mention the spelling of those rantings.

Best,

Samuel

[TCJohnson]

First webstrip for UNSCREWED!:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/DocABsurd206/BMWE01.jpg

Gotta work on the re-sizing and color it. Once I finish yet another school project . . .

Brilliant! Genius! Increadible!

Man, I wish I could come up with ideas like that!

[Danny Donovan]

Rick's new myspace..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=169206440

We're a small, yet creationally diverse entertainment fanzine, based in upstate New York that is dedicated to bringing the world of comic-book entertainment and popular arts to the world beyond the present day normal. Sure, as comic fans, we all love reading and collecting comic-books, it goes without saying, right? Sure it does!

But there is an entire world of non-comic reading people out there that would enjoy a comic-book if they only knew they still existed, and were as entertaining to read. Well, the Mohawk Valley Comics Newsletter is published for that kind of purpose! We expose the un-exposed! There are plenty of people that don't read comic books. We believe if people gave comic books a read they would enjoy this storytelling medium. So, that's the goal of the Moahwk Valley Comics Newsletter. To expose those unfortunate people to the pleasures of comic book reading. To denounce the myth that comic books are only for kids, but ALSO show younger readers that comics exist for them too! Finally, show the world comic books are for all to enjoy! And we're educating the misinformed readers to that fact everyday.

Be it superheroes, fantasy, all-ages, horror, sci-fi, action-adventure, western, etc. and yes, even small press and mini-comix, we intend to cover every genre out there to reach as many readers as possible. Read our blog! We pledge that every article and column created represents quality product, sparkling effort, and outstanding A+ effort in attempt, achievement, and artistic expression. Our end goal is to be a small periodical packing a big punch that lives up to its name.

If you are a comic fan, and you have friends who are not, but they like movies or books of a certain genre, hopefully you will find something in the next issue of the Mohawk Valley Comics Newsletter that you can share with them. We also pledge to bring new readers into the hobby of buying and reading comic-books.

[Samuel Catalino]

Rick's new myspace..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=169206440


87 YEARS OLD?

[Gail Simone]

"We pledge that every article and column created represents quality product, sparkling effort, and outstanding A+ effort in attempt, achievement, and artistic expression."

Oh, for Christ's sake.

Gail

[Wil Radcliffe]

87 YEARS OLD?

Well, for legal reasons Rick no doubt has this particular venture set up in his dog's name. So the 87 is in dog years... which is 12.4 in human years.

Also, did anyone notice one of his buddies is Beau Smith? Beau is pretty good friends with Chuck Dixon, isn't he? Do you suppose someone should warn Beau that he's inadvertently aligned himself with Stink Bug?

[Gail Simone]

This'll no doubt come out as often as the legendary Orca membership packets, ie. pretty much never.

Gail

[Samuel Catalino]

Well, for legal reasons Rick no doubt has this particular venture set up in his dog's name. So the 87 is in dog years... which is 12.4 in human years.

Also, did anyone notice one of his buddies is Beau Smith? Beau is pretty good friends with Chuck Dixon, isn't he? Do you suppose someone should warn Beau that he's inadvertently aligned himself with Stink Bug?


Wil,

I had not thought of that one. Good call.

Beau Smith and R.O. were on speaking terms at one time, I kind of doubt that are on such terms these days, IMHO, that is.

Best,

Samuel

[Wil Radcliffe]

Okay. Then maybe I was mistaken in thinking Beau had been tricked into being on Olney's friends list.


Wil,

I had not thought of that one. Good call.

Beau Smith and R.O. were on speaking terms at one time, I kind of doubt that are on such terms these days, IMHO, that is.

Best,

Samuel

[Danny Donovan]

Well, for legal reasons Rick no doubt has this particular venture set up in his dog's name. So the 87 is in dog years... which is 12.4 in human years.

Also, did anyone notice one of his buddies is Beau Smith? Beau is pretty good friends with Chuck Dixon, isn't he? Do you suppose someone should warn Beau that he's inadvertently aligned himself with Stink Bug?


Beau is a good guy, he uses his Myspace basically for promotion. Anytime a new book goes out he keeps people in the loop with a new Bulletin. He accepts all requests, so I wouldn't take his being on Rick's list as being in league with him.

Most of the people on Rick's lists are the kind that accept anyone. plus 3 profiles of his daughter. :p

WHO NEEDS THAT MANY MYSPACE PROFILES??????????????????????????????

[wishlish]

WHO NEEDS THAT MANY MYSPACE PROFILES??????????????????????????????

There's an inverse relationship between the number of MySpace profiles and your usefulness as a human being.

I wonder if he got clearance from Marvel before he posted all those Spidey images?

[Danny Donovan]

There's an inverse relationship between the number of MySpace profiles and your usefulness as a human being.

I wonder if he got clearance from Marvel before he posted all those Spidey images?

That I assume falls under fair use. Having Spider-man on your myspace page like Koben's Spider-man 3 wallpaper is fine, as long as he's not claiming ownership of Spider-man or that he IS spider-man he should be okay. :p

[Danny Donovan]

eeps.

Rick's latest update.

This profile is set to private. This user must add you as a friend to see his/her profile.

[Inkpot1965]

eeps.

Rick's latest update.

Anyone reading this thread could write a profile for Rick.

[TomStillwell]

I can't say anything, I've got, like, six. XD

I have 217.

[Kurt Busiek]

eeps.

Rick's latest update.

Quote:
This profile is set to private. This user must add you as a friend to see his/her profile.

That'll help a lot with his stated purpose:
There are plenty of people that don't read comic books. We believe if people gave comic books a read they would enjoy this storytelling medium. So, that's the goal of the Moahwk Valley Comics Newsletter. To expose those unfortunate people to the pleasures of comic book reading.

Oh, that he is forced to hide away, so that those interested in being reached out to must come to him first! Curse you, Comic Book Rejects! Poor Olney! Poor Olney! So-Screwed! *gollum*

kdb

[Danny Donovan]

That'll help a lot with his stated purpose:


Oh, that he is forced to hide away, so that those interested in being reached out to must come to him first! Curse you, Comic Book Rejects! Poor Olney! Poor Olney! So-Screwed! *gollum*

kdb

To be fair, that's just his Orcafresh profile that's friends only. much like his Tightlip Entertainment page. the MMC and MVCN pages are still open.

Personally I find his "friends" on the MVCN page a little interesting.

Cully Hamner - who he's had heated exchanges over and is doing a cover for the unscrewed! anthology.

Tone Rodriguez - who I've heard is doing the art on your story

Beau Smith - for obviously stated reasons

Mike Zarnock - who didn't even know he was a guest before Matt warned him...

and..

The Utica Zoo.. -WTF?

[Kurt Busiek]

To be fair, that's just his Orcafresh profile that's friends only. much like his Tightlip Entertainment page. the MMC and MVCN pages are still open.

Isn't Orcafresh's stated purpose comics outreach too, though?


OKRA is purportedly an organization that spews free comics from its blowhole to benefit the unwary, and FRESH is its newsletter than never goes out of date because the next one never comes?

kdb

[Danny Donovan]

Isn't Orcafresh's stated purpose comics outreach too, though?


OKRA is purportedly an organization that spews free comics from its blowhole to benefit the unwary, and FRESH is its newsletter than never goes out of date because the next one never comes?

kdb

Pretty much! I was just covering my bases so someone doesn't come along and say "hey that new page isn't friends only, you're a liar! why must you lie?"

;)

But yeah, Orca was all you said. Although, I am not sure why he's got it blocked I know a few people on his list who are currently planning action against him that could easily get any of his blog posts transcribed if need be. :p

[the4thpip]

You are entitled to your opinion.

Since you brought it up, from your posts, I don't care much for your "style", either.

Looking on your history on this board, you are just another person looking for a flame war, hence the reason for many of your deragotory comments.

Oh yeah, that's me. My contribution to this board: Flame wars. And labskaus.

I would keep this up, but I promised to self to cut down on battles of wit with unarmed parties. Toodles.

[Gail Simone]

Beau Smith knows all about what kind of person Rick is. No worries, there.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

That'll help a lot with his stated purpose:


Oh, that he is forced to hide away, so that those interested in being reached out to must come to him first! Curse you, Comic Book Rejects! Poor Olney! Poor Olney! So-Screwed! *gollum*

kdb

This made me laugh really hard for some reason.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

As for that other guest, I have to say, that's a sweet ass photo of some Hot Wheels, and I don't even care about Hot Wheels!

But not exactly attracting the a-list comics community, is he? I'm sure they're both nice people and all, but...

Gail

[Comcman]

Rick's new myspace..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=169206440

We're a small, yet creationally diverse entertainment fanzine, based in upstate New York that is dedicated to bringing the world of comic-book entertainment and popular arts to the world beyond the present day normal. Sure, as comic fans, we all love reading and collecting comic-books, it goes without saying, right? Sure it does!

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It wasn't good reading the first time.

[Linkara]

As for that other guest, I have to say, that's a sweet ass photo of some Hot Wheels, and I don't even care about Hot Wheels!

But not exactly attracting the a-list comics community, is he? I'm sure they're both nice people and all, but...

Gail

Hey, Gail, I haven't asked this one in awhile, so I decided to give it another shot - any chance of seeing Rick's fanfic- er, I mean, the thing he wanted you to read awhile ago? ^_~ I can't remember if it was a superhero thing or the magic fish thing or whatever, but the one you said read like a fanfic.

[wishlish]

Did anyone notice that it's Rick "Orcafresh TM" Olney? Is Orcafresh an actual registered trademark, or just another product of his TWO world-class Marine-certified Legglalalal Eagglalalals?

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

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It wasn't good reading the first time.

Man, I just want to tear it apart and rewrite it all. Its just a mess. And let me tell you I am far from a super stickler about language and grammer. If you couldn't tell. ;) But c'mon!!

[Samuel Catalino]

Oh yeah, that's me. My contribution to this board: Flame wars. And labskaus.

I would keep this up, but I promised to self to cut down on battles of wit with unarmed parties. Toodles.

I will wait for your next drive by.

If you "promised to self" to cut down on this sort of thing, why did you bother to start?

[Samuel Catalino]

Isn't Orcafresh's stated purpose comics outreach too, though?


OKRA is purportedly an organization that spews free comics from its blowhole to benefit the unwary, and FRESH is its newsletter than never goes out of date because the next one never comes?

kdb


Kurt,

Don't you think that there has been sufficient outreach from Orcafresh?

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

eeps.

Rick's latest update.

Danny,

That might have been the first intelligent thing he has done in a long time, but I have been wrong before.

Best,

Samuel

[bert]

Oh yeah, that's me. My contribution to this board: Flame wars. And labskaus.

I would keep this up, but I promised to self to cut down on battles of wit with unarmed parties. Toodles.

I will wait for your next drive by.

If you "promised to self" to cut down on this sort of thing, why did you bother to start?


Oh good lord guys!

just relax and take a breath.

we all know that pRick is the biggest dick who is posting in this thread, there really is no need to haul yours out to compare.

[Kurt Busiek]

Don't you think that there has been sufficient outreach from Orcafresh?

Were I designing Orcafresh's public presentation, they'd be a lot harder to find, believe me...

kdb

[Samuel Catalino]

Oh good lord guys!

just relax and take a breath.

we all know that pRick is the biggest dick who is posting in this thread, there really is no need to haul yours out to compare.

Bert,

I can not argue with your logic, and it is not my intention to haul anything out to compare.

Best,

Samuel

[DocAbsurd]

Oh, that he is forced to hide away, so that those interested in being reached out to must come to him first! Curse you, Comic Book Rejects! Poor Olney! Poor Olney! So-Screwed! *gollum*

kdb

*choke*

BWA-HAHAHAHAHA!

Dammit, Kurt. Just . . . dammit.

[Larry Dixon]

Kurt,

Don't you think that there has been sufficient outreach from Orcafresh?

Best,

Samuel

More like "insufficient reacharound."

[Larry Dixon]

This made me laugh really hard for some reason.

Gail

It's because KURT said it, and you crumb-catchers all stick by each other! You're all sickopants!

[Koben Kelly]

Oh! Hey, Koben!
It'll amuse you after our exchanges yesterday.... When I went to pick up my registration at Wizard World LA this morning, my badge...... They misspelled "Sarah" as "Sara".
*sigh*

Sarah... in the immortal words of President Hummer...

I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

*sigh* indeed.

[Inkpot1965]

Sarah... in the immortal words of President Hummer...

I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

*sigh* indeed.

But everyone knows how to spell Cowchips...as in Cowchips Olney.

[CutterMike]

It's because KURT said it, and you crumb-catchers all stick by each other! You're all sickopants!

That's not true!

I, for one, quite LIKE Joshua, and haven't grown sick of him at all!

[Koben Kelly]

...Koben's Spider-man 3 wallpaper...

So, Danny... you like? I love that the rain in the image runs through all the semi-transparent images.

[Flamebird]

It's because KURT said it, and you crumb-catchers all stick by each other! You're all sickopants!



I thought that was just Bert. :rolleyes:

Oh, not sick OF pants.




.....nevermind

[Koben Kelly]

But everyone knows how to spell Cowchips...as in Cowchips Olney.

That's Cowchips "OKRAfresh TM" Olney to you, buster!

[the4thpip]

Oh good lord guys!

just relax and take a breath.

we all know that pRick is the biggest dick who is posting in this thread, there really is no need to haul yours out to compare.

How about a threesome? :p

[Danny Donovan]

So, Danny... you like? I love that the rain in the image runs through all the semi-transparent images.

I do!

I'm looking forward to the movie!

I saw a still of Venom vs Spidey where Venom is swinging in for the kill with the webs coming from the top of his wrist, like in the comics.

:)

[the4thpip]

More like "insufficient reacharound."

OK, how about a foursome then?

[Inkpot1965]

That's Cowchips "OKRAfresh TM" Olney to you, buster!

Yeah, yeah. Sue me.
[Talk about a joke that fits the situation]

[bert]

OK, how about a foursome then?

we need one more!

Larry's got two hands to keep occupied, you know!

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

It's because KURT said it, and you crumb-catchers all stick by each other! You're all sickopants!

Did someone call my name?

You're not sick of me are you Larry? :(

JP

J. Pants for life!

[DaveRothe]

It's because KURT said it, and you crumb-catchers all stick by each other! You're all sickopants!

Not me I'm just sicko'ants!:D

[NatGertler]

Did anyone notice that it's Rick "Orcafresh TM" Olney? Is Orcafresh an actual registered trademark, or just another product of his TWO world-class Marine-certified Legglalalal Eagglalalals?If he was claiming it was a registered trademark, it would not be by using the TM symbol. TM is for unregistered trademarks in the US. Registered trademarks get the R-in-the-circle symbol.

[Darediva]

eeps.

Rick's latest update.

Was having a discussion with someone last night about people who link to their blogs or myspace or whatever in a public forum only for everyone to click on that link to find that you MUST BE A FRIEND to read it. It's like saying...I have friends, but YOU are not one of them, so you have no business reading what grand things I have to say.

And we were not even talking about Olney. This was someone else on a forum we both used to visit often.

[Danny Donovan]

lol. is everyone dead?

Has St. Paddy's day killed the conversation? ;)

[KevinTBrown]

lol. is everyone dead?

Has St. Paddy's day killed the conversation? ;)

Yeah, gotta love the green beer.

:D

Goos night pukee

[Danny Donovan]

Yeah, gotta love the green beer.

:D

Goos night pukee

lol. aw it's a lonely night for a tea totaler. :p

[Larry Dixon]

Love, Pants. Nothin' but love.
Two hands, bert? Well... it's genetics, I had nothin' to do with it. But thanks for checking. :)

Misty & I signed on to the letter by the way. We're now scribbled into the margins of the Dirty Double Dozen (increasingly incorrectly named) Short List!

And it feels good.

[Darediva]

What I was thinking, Danny boy!

[Reverend Smooth]

L and I signed, too.

I'm quiet because I had heatstroke earlier and now feel like crap, so don't have much to say.

[DaveRothe]

They're not all dead! Woohoo!

[Darediva]

Hey, Dave! Glad to see the PUNmeister is here. You do entertain the hell outta me sometimes.

[DaveRothe]

Hey, Dave! Glad to see the PUNmeister is here. You do entertain the hell outta me sometimes.

Heh. Thanks Darediva! I laughed my arse off at the DD 214 cover you posted. Guess all the regulars are out tonight.

[Tegan]

lol. is everyone dead?

Has St. Paddy's day killed the conversation? ;)

I've been out of town. No time to blog, no time to read mega-threads, no time for computer... But it was a pleasant visit with the in-laws, so I'm not complaining.

[Darediva]

Heh. Thanks Darediva! I laughed my arse off at the DD 214 cover you posted. Guess all the regulars are out tonight.

Think they have a better party to attend? At least I don't have to drive home.

[DaveRothe]

Think they have a better party to attend? At least I don't have to drive home.

Better party? We got the bestestest party goin on right here at YABS!:D

[Darediva]

Agreed! We can make our own fun even when the Cowchips are down.

[MacQuarrie]

That I assume falls under fair use. Having Spider-man on your myspace page like Koben's Spider-man 3 wallpaper is fine, as long as he's not claiming ownership of Spider-man or that he IS spider-man he should be okay. :p

Nope. It falls under "things Marvel turns a blind eye to." They've had some unfortunate experience with the negative publicity that can result when they enforce their trademarks too vigorously, so now they let most fan usage go unless it's pornographic or for profit. That doesn't mean it's a legitimate or legal use, however.

[MacQuarrie]

You are entitled to your opinion.

Since you brought it up, from your posts, I don't care much for your "style", either.

Looking on your history on this board, you are just another person looking for a flame war, hence the reason for many of your deragotory comments.

Samuel, I've had my own go-rounds with Pip, and I'm far from his biggest fan, but I have to say you've completely mischaracterized him here. Pip can be pissy as hell when something irritates him, but he absolutely does not go around "looking for a flame war" as you describe him.

[wishlish]

Was having a discussion with someone last night about people who link to their blogs or myspace or whatever in a public forum only for everyone to click on that link to find that you MUST BE A FRIEND to read it. It's like saying...I have friends, but YOU are not one of them, so you have no business reading what grand things I have to say.

And we were not even talking about Olney. This was someone else on a forum we both used to visit often.

Actually, the smartest thing Olney could do is to keep his thoughts private, except to people who are good friends of his. The more he talks, the worse he sounds. Taking his profile private is the smartest thing he could ever do.

When I read the initial Mohawk newsletters from a few weeks ago, he seemed like he was going to spend time talking about the comics he loved in his childhood. If Olney spent more time talking about Pete Costanza (an artist he adores from the 60s) and less time talking about his superpowered leggalalal teams, he'd be doing himself a big favor. It wouldn't cleanse him of his numerous past sins, but it would probably make him happy, and no one else would end up owed any money.

[willtupper]

Dear YABS Diary,

I've decided that RO is the "Eric Cartman" of the hobby and inudstry of comic book collecting.

1. He's obviously anti-semetic.

2. He hates and is intimidated by women.

3. He's rather rotund. Nothing wrong with that, but when he calls other people out on it, well there's a pot and kettle and a call, you know?

4. He's always scheming to make money, and seems like he's never really done anything honest at all.

5. Oh, yeah. He's a liar, liar, pants on fire.

6. And probably secretly has a thing for Mr. Hat.

So, yeah. That's where I stand with the Orca-ish one. Other than that, life is rocking and rolling. The new Ninja Turtle movie comes out this Friday and I am STOKED!

That's all for now, YABS Diary. Take care, and I'll talk to you later.

Love,

Will :)

[DaveRothe]

Agreed! We can make our own fun even when the Cowchips are down.

Better Cowchips than Cowtoes. :)

[Darediva]

Better Cowchips than Cowtoes. :)

Or camel toes. :eek:

[Ethan Van Sciver]

Dear Rick Olney:

Pay these people.

[DaveRothe]

Dear Rick Olney:

Pay these people.

It's that Cyber Frog guy! Hey Ethan! Welcome to the forum! And that's a great letter by the way!;)

[Ethan Van Sciver]

It's that Cyber Frog guy! Hey Ethan! Welcome to the forum! And that's a great letter by the way!;)

How come it's 1400 pages long?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

How come it's 1400 pages long?

Well for a lot of the pages you had Olney show up and insult everyone. I've never seen a guy show up and insult so many people and proclaim it was a witch hunt to take him down. ;)

[wishlish]

How come it's 1400 pages long?

I'm currently reading Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle books, including the prequel Cryptonomicon. Each book is at least 900 pages, and there are 4 books, so 1400 pages isn't that long by comparison.

[Danny Donovan]

What I was thinking, Danny boy!

Glad to know I'm not the only one. ;)

And yes, Will.. TMNT!

I hope its good. ;)

[DaveRothe]

How come it's 1400 pages long?

Well the idea was that we'd keep talking until a) Rick Olney pays everyone or b) they close the internet. So it looks like we'll be talking on here forever! LOL

[Ethan Van Sciver]

To refresh, whom does to own money to and how much?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

To refresh, whom does to own money to and how much?

Dude...I've honestly lost count. I think he's running a contest by now to see how many people he can screw over. From E-Bay to the shops...to his business....he's like some guy who is on some mission.

[Koben Kelly]

lol. is everyone dead?

Has St. Paddy's day killed the conversation? ;)

Broseph, I'm in my cups by a few pints...

and still attempting to write reviews! These should prove interesting reading.

Here's a St. Patrick's Day joke for all my fellow micks:

What words did St. Pat use to drive the snakes from Ireland?

"Tastes just like chicken."

:D

[Darediva]

To refresh, whom does to own money to and how much?

The updates are found on www.unscrewedcomic.com. That has the best recount of the whole situation.

[Magneto_X]

To refresh, whom does to own money to and how much?

$10, 000 for Tales of the Spooky #1.

Plus his staff (i.e.e Ronee, Tim etc) plus other unpublished comics plus comics bought from comic stores (2-4 stores in all) plus all the creators he bought to his "conventions" plus other things.

[Koben Kelly]

They've had some unfortunate experience with the negative publicity that can result when they enforce their trademarks too vigorously...

See: Metallica

[DaveRothe]

To refresh, whom does to own money to and how much?

Where's Matt when ya need him? LOL It varies from person to person. Myself he owes a lousy $50 (never paid. sad ain't it?) and others that I do know he owes in the thousands for artwork created for him. Not to mention all the other deals he had with big names flying them to his conventions (one being Gail Simone) and such which he's never bothered to repay. Altogether I think his debt is estimated at around 100 grand. If you head over to www.unscrewedcomic.com you can get more accurate info than I can tell you. Matt and some of the others have all the "dirt" on him.

[Ethan Van Sciver]

Where's Matt when ya need him? LOL It varies from person to person. Myself he owes a lousy $50 (never paid. sad ain't it?) and others that I do know he owes in the thousands for artwork created for him. Not to mention all the other deals he had with big names flying them to his conventions (one being Gail Simone) and such which he's never bothered to repay. Altogether I think his debt is estimated at around 100 grand. If you head over to www.unscrewedcomic.com you can get more accurate info than I can tell you. Matt and some of the others have all the "dirt" on him.

How did he get into debt for 100 grand with an independent comic company? Oh my god...!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

See: Metallica

Lars is a fuckin prick.....excuse my language ladies....

[SUPERECWFAN1]

How did he get into debt for 100 grand with an independent comic company? Oh my god...!

Its the Chinese Democracy of comics ain't it ? But unlike Axl , when the album arrives his should sell very damn well. ( The leaks are pretty damn sweet )

[DaveRothe]

How did he get into debt for 100 grand with an independent comic company? Oh my god...!

He did everything very business like in the beginning contracts, NDA's, etc. but when it came time to pay everyone it suddenly became just a hobby. I guess in his mind that excuses him from incurred debt. In reality it doesn't. I know a few creators that pull similar crapola and don't show any remorse about what they've done or care about paying anyone back. Unscrewed has been long overdue in the comics industry.

[Danny Donovan]

How did he get into debt for 100 grand with an independent comic company? Oh my god...!

It's not just the comic company, it's also the 2 conventions Mighty Mini Con and The Spooky. The vendors he's screwed over and his guests he's promised to bring in only to cancel and screw over as many people as possible.

Then there's the OrcaFresh fan thing....

So many endeavors, so many people left in the wake of debt.

[Darediva]

Not to mention my favorite ploy that he will now regret: holding an auction to benefit none other than St. Jude Children's Hospital, using their name and logo without their knowledge, then not sending any monies raised at said auction to the designated charity. That's just lower than low.

[DaveRothe]

It's not just the comic company, it's also the 2 conventions Mighty Mini Con and The Spooky. The vendors he's screwed over and his guests he's promised to bring in only to cancel and screw over as many people as possible.

Then there's the OrcaFresh fan thing....

So many endeavors, so many people left in the wake of debt.

Hey Danny is that why I'm still a-wake?:)

[wishlish]

How did he get into debt for 100 grand with an independent comic company? Oh my god...!

To his *ahem* credit, Olney claims the amount owed is not near 100 G. But most estimates do have him owing 5 figures easily.

He promised big page rates and paid NO ONE. He claims that he doesn't have to pay because his artists broke their NDAs when they all complained publicly that they weren't paid.

He's threatened to sue every person involved, but didn't show up to court when he's been sued, and has a few default judgements against him (and his wife, co-owner of the comic company he created) already. He's claimed that these will be thrown out at a later date when his 2 crack legal teams square everything out; however, there's no evidence he has an attorney, and it's much more likely he's talking out of his...ignorance.

Until he made history by being the first person banned on Gail's board, he would show up and insult everyone here. He's played verbal games with those he owes, and he insults those who try to sort out exactly what happened.

He's trying to throw another one of his Mighty Mini-Cons in New York- he's held some before, and has also cancelled some before at the last moment, inconveniencing guests, dealers, and customers. There is no announced location or guest list, only a shot glass with "COMIC BOOK REJECTS" and some sort of parody about the Unscrewed site that I forget.

He's the rare 1% of people "involved" in comics that I've found unlikable. Most real pros, such as Gail and yourself, are really quite wonderful and charming. (I've read some of your interviews, Ethan, and you sound like a decent chap. And you're a hell of an artist!) I'm glad you're around and he's not.

[Danny Donovan]

Hey Danny is that why I'm still a-wake?:)

There's that, and the stack of pun books you checked out of the library you still have to read. :p

[DaveRothe]

There's that, and the stack of pun books you checked out of the library you still have to read. :p

And don't forget "The Pun-isher!"

[MacQuarrie]

How did he get into debt for 100 grand with an independent comic company? Oh my god...!
As near as we can tell, his debts are somewhere between $60,000 and $100,000, possibly more. Rick gives a lower figure because there are bills he's simply decided he doesn't have to pay.

How he got there: As soon as anybody asked for payment, they were fired and replaced. A large part of Tales of the Spooky was drawn and re-drawn at least three times. Plus all the convention shenanigans, plus he's been sued by a comic shop for not paying his tab, which was somewhere in the vicinity of $1200 or so, if I recall correctly.

But based on his speedy responses to anything posted in this thread over the last couple of weeks, I think he's grasped the notion that we're not playing. He's used to this stuff all ending up in people typing harsh words at each other until somebody (usually him) got banned, then moving on to another forum to repeat the process. We refused to ban him for months, and now he's getting handed subpoenas and summonses and certified letters full of unnerving legal terminology, and the thought has finally nested in his pea-sized brain (he has a second rudimentary brain at the base of his spine to make his legs move) that actions have consequences, and those consequences bite hard and without mercy.

[Ethan Van Sciver]

Why would anyone work for him instead of Marvel, DC or Image? Was he offering a tempting enough salary?

[Danny Donovan]

And don't forget "The Pun-isher!"


More like THE PUNFISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/2752_4_001.jpg

*sigh, there's never any good pictures of the Punfisher online.. my googlefu failed me.*

[MacQuarrie]

Why would anyone work for him instead of Marvel, DC or Image? Was he offering a tempting enough salary?

When you have no intention of paying, you can offer very generous rates.

[MacQuarrie]

He usually "hired" newcomers, hungry up-and-coming types looking to break in. Eventually his hubris got the better of him, and he accidentally hired some pros with enough experience to not be bullied, which is how it all fell apart for him.

[Danny Donovan]

Why would anyone work for him instead of Marvel, DC or Image? Was he offering a tempting enough salary?

He always promised a fair rate. Which is how he got Chuck Dixon, he was willing to pay his DC rate. However he never got passed the promise stage. And then if you complain you broke your NDA and thus he doesn't have to pay, and he'll sue with his "leaggle temes."

[Darediva]

What I wonder about Olney is just who else besides people in the comics industry he has tried to scam? He tried to scam me out of a custom quilt, and when I didn't just make the damn thing and give it to him out of the goodness of my heart and for "publicity", he calls me on this very thread "Ms. Sour Grapes" because I didn't get the money for it? WTF? And tells me it was not a commission, because we had no contract. Uh, dimwit...that's why I did not make it for you! I asked for 50% for the materials fees up front, and got nothing but emails (and a lousy Christmas card) promising me the money "in two weeks". That was three years ago.

So, if he tried to work me, who else who is not involved peripherally with comics has he scammed?

[Ethan Van Sciver]

He usually "hired" newcomers, hungry up-and-coming types looking to break in. Eventually his hubris got the better of him, and he accidentally hired some pros with enough experience to not be bullied, which is how it all fell apart for him.

Final questions: Was anything actually published? What were sales like? Where did the profits go, if there were any?

[Danny Donovan]

Final questions: Was anything actually published? What were sales like? Where did the profits go, if there were any?

Nothing ever came out, because everyone broke their NDAs by wanting money they were promised. And a slew of other excuses that ranged from "everyone I ever knew got killed by um, locusts or something." to "You opened yourself up to legal action by speaking up."

No profits. No conventions for 2 years running. No books ever published. None of it his fault. It was all "cyber bullies who don't respect his NDAs"

[Danny Donovan]

What I wonder about Olney is just who else besides people in the comics industry he has tried to scam? He tried to scam me out of a custom quilt, and when I didn't just make the damn thing and give it to him out of the goodness of my heart and for "publicity", he calls me on this very thread "Ms. Sour Grapes" because I didn't get the money for it? WTF? And tells me it was not a commission, because we had no contract. Uh, dimwit...that's why I did not make it for you! I asked for 50% for the materials fees up front, and got nothing but emails (and a lousy Christmas card) promising me the money "in two weeks". That was three years ago.

So, if he tried to work me, who else who is not involved peripherally with comics has he scammed?

Well there was the guy that made clocks remember?

Also those toy people..

comic vendors...

shops....

Charities....

people that joined his club....

people that paid for tickets to the cancelled conventions....

[DaveRothe]

Why would anyone work for him instead of Marvel, DC or Image? Was he offering a tempting enough salary?

He'd feed you a bunch of slick flattering lines, stroke your ego and promise VERY generous rates. Throw in the misleading NDA's, contracts and etc. you'd think he was on the up and up. Then the work got completed and he'd stall you with a "check's in the mail" excuse or some irrelevant piece of technology he has broke down. Then he'd threaten with lawsuits claiming you broke the precious NDA by telling everyone he's a deadbeat. It wasn't until word got around and Thank God it did that his victims discovered there were many more out there. We weren't alone. So now we've banded together to put a stop to this man's victimizing. As you can tell I'm passionate about this ideal. I've been the victim a few times myself. If we can prevent it from happening to other fresh new talent we'll have accomplished our goal.

[DaveRothe]

What I wonder about Olney is just who else besides people in the comics industry he has tried to scam? He tried to scam me out of a custom quilt, and when I didn't just make the damn thing and give it to him out of the goodness of my heart and for "publicity", he calls me on this very thread "Ms. Sour Grapes" because I didn't get the money for it? WTF? And tells me it was not a commission, because we had no contract. Uh, dimwit...that's why I did not make it for you! I asked for 50% for the materials fees up front, and got nothing but emails (and a lousy Christmas card) promising me the money "in two weeks". That was three years ago.

So, if he tried to work me, who else who is not involved peripherally with comics has he scammed?

I shudder to think at how many other things in his life he has scammed. Sick dying kids is the bottom of the barrel but you do have to wonder if he's ripped off churches and the homeless and such and how far does his sickening gall really go?