Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Inkpot1965]

Apperently he took the "marvel method" a little too liberally.

"Hey, Stan Lee once told Jack Kirby the fantastic four should fight God, and he wrote The Galactus Saga, one of the most well loved storylines on earth! So if *I* tell my team to draw my crappy characters eventually a major story will fall out of it and I will be the next Stan Lee! Bwahahahahaha!"

And if he weren't a TightWadian, he might've gotten that masterpiece

[DaveRothe]

It was a ramble that JT and I had to talk over to try and make sense of. There were parts that made my head spin. But how do you tell the boss he can't write?

"Dear Boss. You CAN'T WRITE!!!" Ironically, I also had that same problem not too long ago with another creator... but I told him anyways.;)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

It was a ramble that JT and I had to talk over to try and make sense of. There were parts that made my head spin. But how do you tell the boss he can't write?

Its like in wrestling in a way. How do you tell Vince McMahon a storyline isn't working or a character he's pushing is failing ? It happened recently with a new wrestler named Vladimer Koslov. The guys were all scared til finally one stood up at a meeting and told Vince this guy sucked in ring and wasn't ready. Vince went APE SHIT on everyone as they all agreed...he asked " How come no one had the balls to tell me til after we devoted a months time to this guy on tv ? "

[Inkpot1965]

Its like in wrestling in a way. How do you tell Vince McMahon a storyline isn't working or a character he's pushing is failing ? It happened recently with a new wrestler named Vladimer Koslov. The guys were all scared til finally one stood up at a meeting and told Vince this guy sucked in ring and wasn't ready. Vince went APE SHIT on everyone as they all agreed...he asked " How come no one had the balls to tell me til after we devoted a months time to this guy on tv ? "

Well, If I knew Ricky then like I know him now.....

[Matt Doc Martin]

With the 20,000th post, I now declare that Rick Olney is an asshat of the highest caliber. How else do you describe a man who claims to be a Marine, yet offers NO documentation…but does post a picture of REAL soldiers and implies he was one of them.


Rick Olney owes too many people yet all he offers in return is excuses and lies. Why does he refuse to pay Ronee and Tim and others? Why does he accuse Scott Reed of fraud? Why does he threaten everyone here legally ad physically, yet not follow through with anything?

He is a raging asshat and a human cockroach.

Of course, I missed the 20,00oth post, but it changes nothing.

Rick Olney, may everyone have their justice and may you suffer the rest of your days. And may those days number but a few.

[DaveRothe]

Well, If I knew Ricky then like I know him now.....

...You'd STILL be waiting for a return email?:D

[Inkpot1965]

...You'd STILL be waiting for a return email?:D

But...but...I was waiting to see what kind of excuse he would come up with.

[JTPencils]

I'll take 'em, certainly. There are a couple of folks I could pass them on to.

I'd take them Dave, but according to CT laws (small claims)... previous acts... even if they are identical, are not precedent setting. So, as I understand it, he could have swindled every artist in the contiguous US of A, and I couldn't use it. But... that's still not going to save him from what he DID do. I'm also trying to contact Jimmy T's penciller (who I know quite well), that ALSO got creamed in this debacle... and ask if he would like to join in on the fun. Seem's to me that two people, working for the same person, with the same complaint, SHOULD be able to file together. It's not like we were working at different times or for different publisher's... so I don't see why we couldn't file together. If anyone knows any different, please tell me!

[JTPencils]

Is this something known, or do I have to beg someone to PM me about it?

Well hells bells, let me know if it's something I should be aware of as well (Just PM me)

[DaveRothe]

But...but...I was waiting to see what kind of excuse he would come up with.

Dear Jeff, Sorry for the long delay but Orcky my magic talking fish died. After we flushed him he stopped up our sewer drain so then we had to tear apart the bathroom. All the while I was thinking "Y'know I gotta email that Jeff..." K well I gotta go backdate my guest list for the Mini Mighty Money Con that was supposed to happen 3 years ago. -Reck Oweme

P.S. The check's in the mail...

[JTPencils]

Okay, since I can't contain myself any longer...

SO FAR, the total from the first auction is...

$1053.64!!!

Now, keep in mind, I'm still awaiting a couple more payments (at the very least, one). So, this figure will go UP! Nice job, everyone! Now, let's see about breaking that record with round 2 of the auctions! :D

~Bev

Bev, Tom, allow me to say congrats on the first auction! I'm in hopes that the second is as well received!

[Danny Donovan]

With the 20,000th post, I now declare that Rick Olney is an asshat of the highest caliber. How else do you describe a man who claims to be a Marine, yet offers NO documentation…but does post a picture of REAL soldiers and implies he was one of them.


Rick Olney owes too many people yet all he offers in return is excuses and lies. Why does he refuse to pay Ronee and Tim and others? Why does he accuse Scott Reed of fraud? Why does he threaten everyone here legally ad physically, yet not follow through with anything?

He is a raging asshat and a human cockroach.

Of course, I missed the 20,00oth post, but it changes nothing.

Rick Olney, may everyone have their justice and may you suffer the rest of your days. And may those days number but a few.

I reposted that on the 20,000th for ya. ;)

[Danny Donovan]

Bev, Tom, allow me to say congrats on the first auction! I'm in hopes that the second is as well received!

So far, everything has a bid on it!

And we haven't even don the press release for it yet!

[JTPencils]

And if he weren't a TightWadian, he might've gotten that masterpiece

Welllllllllllllllllll.... we're good Reb... but I don't know about a masterpiece. Maybe a milestone... but masterpiece?

[Matt Doc Martin]

I reposted that on the 20,000th for ya. ;)

You rock. Thank you.

[Danny Donovan]

You rock. Thank you.

No worries!

My pleasure!

(see Rick? It's not about ego! We share the wealth here!)

[DaveRothe]

Time for another of my favorite buttons...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/DaveRothe/button-red_benji_park_01-Goos.png

[rummblestrips]

Time for another of my favorite buttons...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/DaveRothe/button-red_benji_park_01-Goos.png

BWAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

My husband just jumped out of his seat when I started laughing so loudly!

THIS IS OUR NEW T-SHIRT RIGHT HERE!

Seriously. If you want, I'll pass this on to my t-shirt guy and we'll get some done.

...wait a sec... that's Transformers font, isn't it?:D :D

[Matt Doc Martin]

Time for another of my favorite buttons...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/DaveRothe/button-red_benji_park_01-Goos.png

Sweet.


Here's to you kicking Rick's ass legally.

And to General Jack Cosmo kicking his ass for charity!


And Rick's many, many sins haunting him for the rest of his days.

[Danny Donovan]

Well looks like no "facts" today.

Hmmm.. I wonder if "facts" are like money...

I always had the same trouble getting $ out of him as people seem to have getting "facts"

[DaveRothe]

BWAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

My husband just jumped out of his seat when I started laughing so loudly!

THIS IS OUR NEW T-SHIRT RIGHT HERE!

Seriously. If you want, I'll pass this on to my t-shirt guy and we'll get some done.

...wait a sec... that's Transformers font, isn't it?:D :D

They may have used it on Transformers. It's a Comicraft font titled DropCase Solid.

[JTPencils]

Time for another of my favorite buttons...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/DaveRothe/button-red_benji_park_01-Goos.png

Why is it I see these selling better then any TLE publication?

And is it just me, or if they DID sell well... would he want credit (and money) for creating the line? Our luck, it would sell on the level of the "Shit Happens" craze.

[Danny Donovan]

I'll toss it up on the unscrewed zazzle thing, but if Joanne wants to do some too with her guy she should!

Hell, we all should!

lol.

[JTPencils]

I'll toss it up on the unscrewed zazzle thing, but if Joanne wants to do some too with her guy she should!

Hell, we all should!

lol.

I didn't know Unscrewed! had a zazzle area!?! Link please?

[DaveRothe]

I'll toss it up on the unscrewed zazzle thing, but if Joanne wants to do some too with her guy she should!

Hell, we all should!

lol.

Well at the worst you wear it to a Con and people ask what does that mean? Then the story of Unscrewed begins...:D

[DaveRothe]

I didn't know Unscrewed! had a zazzle area!?! Link please?

Here ya go JT http://www.zazzle.com/search/Unscrewed Does Stinky know about this? If he doesn't I'll edit.

[Danny Donovan]

I didn't know Unscrewed! had a zazzle area!?! Link please?


http://www.zazzle.com/product/235302278736929035

and for the ladies. because Rick is a ladies man.

http://www.zazzle.com/product/235270114410114721

It's my account but it's 100% unscrewed!

http://www.zazzle.com/dannydonovan

[Inkpot1965]

Welllllllllllllllllll.... we're good Reb... but I don't know about a masterpiece. Maybe a milestone... but masterpiece?

WE GOTTA have one masterpiece in us

[Kurt Busiek]

Okay, since I can't contain myself any longer...

SO FAR, the total from the first auction is...

$1053.64!!!

Congratulations to all!

And Scott Shaw! kicked my ass, like I knew he would.

On the other hand, I have a book in the second auction (courtesy Nat "Muss 'Em Up" Gertler) and it's already over thirty bucks. Another fifty-five or so, and I can catch up!

But in Scott!'s honor, I shall find a way to cameo Pig-Iron in SUPERMAN #669 and #670. This, I swear!

kdb

[JTPencils]

Here ya go JT http://www.zazzle.com/search/Unscrewed Does Stinky know about this? If he doesn't I'll edit.

If he knows or not, I could care less... but I sure as heck didn't know about it. Thankee, I've bookmarked, and will see about getting me an item or two!

[Danny Donovan]

Here ya go JT http://www.zazzle.com/search/Unscrewed Does Stinky know about this? If he doesn't I'll edit.

He knows.

He tried to have me "investigated" for the Happy meal ones.

McDonald's never said word one.

[Inkpot1965]

He knows.

He tried to have me "investigated" for the Happy meal ones.

McDonald's never said word one.

They were busy. Mayor McCheese had a heartattack.

[Danny Donovan]

Congratulations to all!

And Scott Shaw! kicked my ass, like I knew he would.

On the other hand, I have a book in the second auction (courtesy Nat "Muss 'Em Up" Gertler) and it's already over thirty bucks. Another fifty-five or so, and I can catch up!

But in Scott!'s honor, I shall find a way to cameo Pig-Iron in SUPERMAN #669 and #670. This, I swear!

kdb

I have it!

Clark and Lois go to a cheesy restaurant for breakfast called "Out of the Iron" and the mascott is Pig Iron!

I demand full credit or I sue!

[Blake Petit]

But in Scott!'s honor, I shall find a way to cameo Pig-Iron in SUPERMAN #669 and #670. This, I swear!

kdb

I am SO gonna hold you to that.

[Matt Doc Martin]

He knows.

He tried to have me "investigated" for the Happy meal ones.

McDonald's never said word one.

He didn't have anyone investigated for anything. Read my sig.

Rick Olney is a liar and a loser.

[Kurt Busiek]

By the way, anyone who loves Kurt's work should check out a book he didn't do: Dr. Blink, Superhero Shrink by John Kovalic, Christopher Jones, and Melissa Kaercher. The first trade just came out, and it's a hell of a good time. The dedication went out to Busiek and Bob Newhart.

Really? I did not know that -- I'll have to check it out.

Bob Newhart, huh?

kdb

[Danny Donovan]

They were busy. Mayor McCheese had a heartattack.

Oh noes! I should have sent flowers or something!

[JTPencils]

Congratulations to all!

And Scott Shaw! kicked my ass, like I knew he would.

On the other hand, I have a book in the second auction (courtesy Nat "Muss 'Em Up" Gertler) and it's already over thirty bucks. Another fifty-five or so, and I can catch up!

But in Scott!'s honor, I shall find a way to cameo Pig-Iron in SUPERMAN #669 and #670. This, I swear!

kdb

Kurt, no doubt that'll be different on this round. Hell, I'm just glad there's a bid on my little submission to the cause. I thought for sure it was gonna be the little image left on the side of the road! "art by WHO?" sorta thing.

[Kurt Busiek]

If he has something that refutes ANYTHING here, he should just POST IT. Doing the "I have something" bit is just weak. Weak.

Communists! A list of known communists, in the State Department!

I have the list right here.

What, see it? No no, national security...

kdb

[JTPencils]

WE GOTTA have one masterpiece in us

We just need a quality writer. Much like what we're faced with now with the Unscrewed! project. Now THAT... is gonna be great. I foresee fame, fortune, girls galore (OK, I'm married, so no girls... I'll just settle for the fortune, and not having to attend a con with the "who are you??" look on folks faces)

[Inkpot1965]

We just need a quality writer. Much like what we're faced with now with the Unscrewed! project. Now THAT... is gonna be great. I foresee fame, fortune, girls galore (OK, I'm married, so no girls... I'll just settle for the fortune, and not having to attend a con with the "who are you??" look on folks faces)

You attended a convention with the Who?

[DaveRothe]

You attended a convention with the Who?

I REALLY wanna know!:D

[JTPencils]

You attended a convention with the Who?

Con's are so crappy in CT, I couldn't attend one with "The What". But I DID get to at least attend one where John Byrne was eating crow like no ones business.

[Inkpot1965]

Con's are so crappy in CT, I couldn't attend one with "The What". But I DID get to at least attend one where John Byrne was eating crow like no ones business.

Sounds like he's pulling an Ozzie Ozbourne.

[DaveRothe]

Con's are so crappy in CT, I couldn't attend one with "The What". But I DID get to at least attend one where John Byrne was eating crow like no ones business.

James O' Barr was there?

[Kurt Busiek]

I am SO gonna hold you to that.

Actually, the plot to #670's already in, and he's in there.

I write the plot to #669 this week, and I know he needs to be in there too, because of what's in #670...

kdb

[JTPencils]

James O' Barr was there?

If he was, he wasn't stuck in the back room of Artists Alley like JB!!

[Kurt Busiek]

I have it!

Clark and Lois go to a cheesy restaurant for breakfast called "Out of the Iron" and the mascot is Pig Iron!

Nope!

kdb

[Blake Petit]

Actually, the plot to #670's already in, and he's in there.

I write the plot to #669 this week, and I know he needs to be in there too, because of what's in #670...

kdb

And again, you give me cause to declare you awesome. :D

(Wait, you did #670 before #669?)

[Kurt Busiek]

And again, you give me cause to declare you awesome. :D

(Wait, you did #670 before #669?)

Different artists. The guy drawing #670 was available to start earlier. The guy drawing #669 is still working on #665, at present.

kdb

[Danny Donovan]

He didn't have anyone investigated for anything. Read my sig.

Rick Olney is a liar and a loser.

Very true. BUT he SAID he did. Which is probably what I should have said.

"Rick told me he called McDonald's lawyers on me for the Happy Meal shirt. nothing came of it."

Although I would have signed an NDA when Tom (or was it Mac?) who came back with "You know I live right up the road from McDonald's corporate headquarters and I lunch with the legal team every so often I'll have to ask them next time I see them."

HA!

Also, Kurt, by my posting my scenario for your inclusion of Pig Iron in Superman, my 4 Teams Of Lawyers!!! have decreed I am now the sole owner of Superman, and Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew.

So I will now be the new writer of Man Of Steel, and replacing Bill Morrison on Shaw!'s new mini series.

I'm adding a new member of the zoo crew, called ORKA-LA! It's a giant sea mammal (not a fish Gail!) with a touch too much!

[Blake Petit]

Different artists. The guy drawing #670 was available to start earlier. The guy drawing #669 is still working on #665, at present.

kdb

Ah, I see.

(The ins and outs of the comic book universe never cease to amaze me...)

[DaveRothe]

Very true. BUT he SAID he did. Which is probably what I should have said.

"Rick told me he called McDonald's lawyers on me for the Happy Meal shirt. nothing came of it."

Although I would have signed an NDA when Tom (or was it Mac?) who came back with "You know I live right up the road from McDonald's corporate headquarters and I lunch with the legal team every so often I'll have to ask them next time I see them."

HA!

Also, Kurt, by my posting my scenario for your inclusion of Pig Iron in Superman, my 4 Teams Of Lawyers!!! have decreed I am now the sole owner of Superman, and Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew.

So I will now be the new writer of Man Of Steel, and replacing Bill Morrison on Shaw!'s new mini series.

I'm adding a new member of the zoo crew, called ORKA-LA! It's a giant sea mammal (not a fish Gail!) with a touch too much!


Was Tom that said that. And Congrats on the acquisition of SuperMan and Capt. Carrot and the Zoo Crew, Danny!:)

[Kurt Busiek]

Also, Kurt, by my posting my scenario for your inclusion of Pig Iron in Superman, my 4 Teams Of Lawyers!!! have decreed I am now the sole owner of Superman, and Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew.

Run a few rounds of Bare-Knuckle Lawyer Deathmatch until you've boiled it down to one good one, and my lawyer, Ms. J. Walters, will meet with the survivor.

So I will now be the new writer of Man Of Steel, and replacing Bill Morrison on Shaw!'s new mini series.

Er, SUPERMAN: MAN OF STEEL was canceled years ago. What, they get distributed that slow through OKRA?

kdb

[SteveForbes]

I just want to say that I LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!

All of you have come through and made me laugh, adding brightness to my day. I feel honored to know all of you.

Gail, I'm picking up Gen13, and I'm loving it.

Kurt, while I'm not Superman's biggest fan, I AM reading Astro City, and loving that.

(I almost picked up Sexy Chicks, Gail, because you're in it. The only thing that stopped me was my wallet. If the book is still at my lcs, I'll get it this coming week.)

Oh, SEE 300!!!!!! That movie ROCKED so hard it's not even funny!

-llama

[CutterMike]

You attended a convention with the Who?

"Who's on stage?"

[DaveRothe]

"Who's on stage?"

I thought it was "Who's on first?"

[JTPencils]

I thought it was "Who's on first?"

I don't know.... THIRD base!

[CutterMike]

I thought it was "Who's on first?"

Animaniacs' riff on the classic Abbott & Costello routine had me falling down, laughing (and I was sitting in a chair at the time)!

http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Humor/Docs/WhosOnStage.html

[THEDOC]

Wannted to let you all know that dispite Rick's thought that The Jam would be like MMC, we were very successful and most of our folks even made a profit after their table money was recoupped.
Joe Zierman, who is a great guy made a special illo for the occasion and we wanted to share.

http://www.inter-fan.org/submissions/zierman/galacticolney.bmp

[Danny Donovan]

Run a few rounds of Bare-Knuckle Lawyer Deathmatch until you've boiled it down to one good one, and my lawyer, Ms. J. Walters, will meet with the survivor.

A CHICK? Everybuddy nows wimmins can't be lawyers! They's for ho'in!

There is no lawyer that can beat I. B. Emaginary Attorney At Law!


Er, SUPERMAN: MAN OF STEEL was canceled years ago. What, they get distributed that slow through OKRA?

kdb

Due to Superboy Prime punching Mark Waid resulting in Ultimate Hypertime no DC book was ever cancelled. Ever.

I think Busiek of Earth X is writing Kamandi.

[Papergirl]

"Who's on stage?"
The Band is on stage!

~Bev

[Danny Donovan]

Wannted to let you all know that dispite Rick's thought that The Jam would be like MMC, we were very successful and most of our folks even made a profit after their table money was recoupped.
Joe Zierman, who is a great guy made a special illo for the occasion and we wanted to share.

http://www.inter-fan.org/submissions/zierman/galacticolney.bmp

That's gonna be my desktop theme... :p

[THEDOC]

That's gonna be my desktop theme... :p

Hee hee we thought you might like it !:D

[AIPman1]

rick posted again on the fantaseers yahoo group. talking of Jehovah Witnesses or some crap.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fantaseers/

[THEDOC]

rick posted again on the fantaseers yahoo group. talking of Jehovah Witnesses or some crap.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fantaseers/

Looks like he was replying to something Skeeter said but he is behaving himself. Let's see how long that lasts.

[CutterMike]

The Band is on stage!

~Bev

No, they're performing later!

[THEDOC]

Speaking of behaving badly I posted a reply on his blog aboiut Tim and called his a scewball and this is what he replied with.

As you probably are too, Lance!

I'm just tired of reading the Tim Tobolski life story of, "Woe is Me" ... as can easily be culled from his various posts and mutterings. We all have real life trails and tribulations to face and endure. You've had your share of upsets and mishaps. Tim and I spent more time than I care remembering ... talking about what was happening in his life. And, yes, I'd share my troubles with him. 'Course you know that because he's already incorporated some of what I shred with him into his malicious posts on the YABS libel thread.

Prior to now -- I wasn't as 'mean' spirited towards him as he's been towards me. I'm now comfortable with trotting out -- all -- that was shared with me back those various times.


I'll also be getting into the word... his word on the ICC.

Frankly, his biggest problem with using his creativity was that his heart was never in it. He needed (again) my shoulders to stand on -- conversationally -- to muster up the courage and drive.

Well... drive this!

[bert]

Congrats on the Auction totals!

i don't have an Ebay account, but I'm doing what I can to help (tossing work towards some folks, and I bought a T-shirt from Matt :)).

yay all of US!

and boooo. . . .you know who!

Goos Night Pookie !

[Magneto_X]

I'm waiting for Olney to compare himself to Byrne, Erik Larsen, Todd McFarlane, Rob Liefeld, Peter David... am I missing anyone?


The creators Olney is close to acting like in that list is post-Superman Byrne when he blogs/posts on bad days* and Liefeld (who is extremely late with his projects/lies to other creators**/projects don't materialise despite dozens of excuses*** etc). But even Liefeld managed to get tonnes of stuff published by both Marvel and DC.


* professionally wise Byrne smokes Olney, of course

** about "losing" artwork of theirs (he did it on Millarworld to Rick Veitch IIRC)

** Youngblood: Bloosport #2, Alias: Sydney Bristow and more

[bert]

Anyone in the military knows better than to go commando.

After all, I'd like to point out that bdu/dcu/combat uniforms, save the flight suits, are almost ALL Button Fly! It's kinda embarasing when you're showing off because those buttons really do leave gaps, K?

So yeah, Don't.. Just Don't!


OK..

this is information I did not know.

and living so close to San Antonio, and all the Military Bases there?. . . . .

(makes mental note to start staring at Military men crotches).


:)

[DaveRothe]

Now with MORE Fontiness and Ballooniness!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/DaveRothe/galacticolney.jpg

[Matt Doc Martin]

rick posted again on the fantaseers yahoo group. talking of Jehovah Witnesses or some crap.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fantaseers/

I am still awaiting group approval. Can you pdf his things and email to me?

[Danny Donovan]

Speaking of behaving badly I posted a reply on his blog aboiut Tim and called his a scewball and this is what he replied with.

STANDING ON HIS SHOULDERS?

What the living fuck did he ever create or do?

"Tim doesn't have drive"

Actually, Tim has responsibilities. To his children....

ARRRRRRRRGH I can't even begin to deflate that comment there are so many damn things wrong with it.

[Magneto_X]

Damn Disney!

They ruin everything!

And they stopped making good cartoons!

What the hell is all this 'tween crap now?

They occasionally have good cartoons. Like Kim Possible.

But the cartoon line Disney has is a far cry from the quality it had in the 90's (Darkwing Duck, Ducktales, Tailspin, Peter Pan and the Pirates [they did that, right?] etc).

[Danny Donovan]

http://tightlipentertainment.com/wp-content/themes/default/img/tle_01.jpg

I like how all "his" characters look like they are afraid of his logo.

[Danny Donovan]

They occasionally have good cartoons. Like Kim Possible.

But the cartoon line Disney has is a far cry from the quality it had in the 90's (Darkwing Duck, Ducktales, Tailspin, Peter Pan and the Pirates [they did that, right?] etc).

Hmm.. Actually I don't think Peter Pan and the Pirates was Disney. It was actually produced by Fox.

However Ducktales, Tailspin and Darkwing Duck were EXACTLY what cartoons should be. Disney's Aladdin was also a great TV series spin off.

I like Kim Possible. It's really the only good animated show they have now.

I bought the season sets of Darkwing and Gummi Bears for a friend of mine's kids. So they can see what REAL cartoons were like. lol.

[THEDOC]

Now with MORE Fontiness and Ballooniness!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/DaveRothe/galacticolney.jpg

Thanks Dave!

[THEDOC]

STANDING ON HIS SHOULDERS?

What the living fuck did he ever create or do?

"Tim doesn't have drive"

Actually, Tim has responsibilities. To his children....

ARRRRRRRRGH I can't even begin to deflate that comment there are so many damn things wrong with it.

I told him I though it was the otherway around and I think he meant lean on his shoulders.
Oh, we had Unscrwed magnets and banners at The Jam and gave out some to other creators to spread the word.

[Magneto_X]

Hmm.. Actually I don't think Peter Pan and the Pirates was Disney. It was actually produced by Fox.

However Ducktales, Tailspin and Darkwing Duck were EXACTLY what cartoons should be. Disney's Aladdin was also a great TV series spin off.

I like Kim Possible. It's really the only good animated show they have now.

I bought the season sets of Darkwing and Gummi Bears for a friend of mine's kids. So they can see what REAL cartoons were like. lol.

I knew I was forgetting something. I used to watch a tv show in Australia called Saturday Disney for *years* because of their cartoons. It was quite rare that I didn't like a series they had. The only one I can remember not liking was Goof Troop.


Aladdin rocked!

[wishlish]

Really? I did not know that -- I'll have to check it out.

Bob Newhart, huh?

kdb

There's even a statue of you in the book. And a blurb from that Mathieu-loving Tony Isabella on the back. How can it miss?

[Papergirl]

No, they're performing later!

Hee! I so love Slappy Squirrel!

:D

~Bev

[Magneto_X]

But Rick is insane.

He thinks it is a good thing.


I'm not sure. He does seem to loath himself a bit. After all, to commit this much blatant self destruction he's practically *begging* someone to take every possession (possibly even his life via prison) when he and everybody else knows he stands no chance in hell of winning a debate, let alone a court case.

[KevinTBrown]

Congratulations to all!

And Scott Shaw! kicked my ass, like I knew he would.

On the other hand, I have a book in the second auction (courtesy Nat "Muss 'Em Up" Gertler) and it's already over thirty bucks. Another fifty-five or so, and I can catch up!

But in Scott!'s honor, I shall find a way to cameo Pig-Iron in SUPERMAN #669 and #670. This, I swear!

kdb

Woo-hoo!!! That's the drawing I won! :D

[Danny Donovan]

I knew I was forgetting something. I used to watch a tv show in Australia called Saturday Disney for *years* because of their cartoons. It was quite rare that I didn't like a series they had. The only one I can remember not liking was Goof Troop.


Aladdin rocked!


Goof Troop was an aquired taste. It was pretty much trying to capatilize on Darkwing Duck's concept of taking an established Disney character that wasn't getting much milage anymore (Launchpad McQuack, and later Gizmo Duck) and transplanting them into a "sitcom setting"

Aladdin was by far one of my favorite shows growing up, I still watch it on Toon Disney to this day, but they piss me off by showing it out of order. I would LOVE for that to be collected as a DVD.

I hope they wouldn't neuter it, for PC times. I heard in the recent re-release of the original movie they changed the opening theme song "Arabian Nights" taking out the "they'll cut off your ear, if they don't like your face, it's barbaric but hey, it's home" line because it was too violent.

Another show that serioulsy no one has come NEAR being as good as was Gargoyles. If Disney could do shit like that again they'd have something. But again, in reruns a lot of the Gargoyles episodes have been "altered" the famed "gun control" episode where Eliza Maza got shot, had the scene where she was lying on the floor bleeding cut out.

So in the new version, there are two ways they do it. One is a quick cut to a close-up (reusing a close-up from another part of the show) when she gets shot, or the other one the entire scene is taken out and the next episode she's in a hospital and no one mentions what happens. (they remove the "previously on Gargoyles")

Meh.

Other notable shows from animation past, Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers!

[Danny Donovan]

I'm not sure. He does seem to loath himself a bit. After all, to commit this much blatant self destruction he's practically *begging* someone to take every possession (possibly even his life via prison) when he and everybody else knows he stands no chance in hell of winning a debate, let alone a court case.

Nah, he really thinks everyone is as full of shit as he is.

Man I'm swearing way too much tonight. AND IN MIXED COMPANY! that's not like me at all.

Rick brings out the worst in people. :p

[CutterMike]

Hee! I so love Slappy Squirrel!

:D

~Bev

"Now THAT'S comedy!"

My daughter and I are big fans of the series.

She was in her mid-teens when the series was on and, if I ever felt like living dangerously, all I had to do was refer to her as "Katie".

(The scars have mostly disappeared and I hardly limp at all, anymore.)

[Papergirl]

"Now THAT'S comedy!"

My daughter and I are big fans of the series.

She was in her mid-teens when the series was on and, if I ever felt like living dangerously, all I had to do was refer to her as "Katie".

(The scars have mostly disappeared and I hardly limp at all, anymore.)
KATIE KABOOM!

Damn, I miss Animaniacs. :(

~Bev

[DaveRothe]

KATIE KABOOM!

Damn, I miss Animaniacs. :(

~Bev

Me too.*sniffle* and Tiny Toons.:(

[NatGertler]

On the other hand, I have a book in the second auction (courtesy Nat "Muss 'Em Up" Gertler) and it's already over thirty bucks. Another fifty-five or so, and I can catch up!And the odds are good. Seeing how we already have not one but two bidders on the Nat Gertler-signed copy of The Factor, it's clear that they'll bid on anything!

[DocAbsurd]

Up until now, I have pretty much kept my comments about my Olney-experiences limited to here, UNSCREWED! and a few thoughts at 1 or 2 other commentary sites. I haven't even responded to others' blogs in public.

This week I accepted an invitation to a global online gallery show, linked through many many creators' 360 sites. I'm a bit nervous about the whole endeavor, realizing my silly cartoons are gonna be seen in countries I have little hope of locating on a globe, let alone ever visiting.

I also decided to start a series of blogs, detailing all this . . . this . . . douche-baggery from Olney. And I say 'series' cuz I figure it's gonna take a few entries to cover it all.

Which also means these blogs are gonna be seen all over the bloody world.

Mind you, I had no intention of writing any of this down. I mean, why bother? Why waste time when it's completely delineated right here? And I've been trying so feverishly to follow the Golden Rule, even if Olney can't properly quote it (or acknowledge it, for that matter).

But I've only got so many cheeks to turn. His last slap kinda sealed it for me; that little bit of defamation (look it up, Olney; unlike you, I do have a reputation to build and posting those pictures of my supposed 'cardboard hovel' jeopardizes not only my hopeful profession but my status as a parent) was just the push I warned him about.

Again, it ain't libel if it's true. And I ain't said half the stuff you wept to me about. You wanna to take it there, I'm ready. Again, unlike you I've kept nothing hidden and have apologized for anything I said privately about anyone you were/are/continue to have on your 'short list'.

I'm gonna be talking to global community now.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Rick keeps forgetting what religion he is.

Sure they'd do more good by listening to people. I get your point
perfectly! Once he realized that I had a Christian background and my
beliefs were strong as to how I regard my faith in God and creation
... it wasn't an issue with him anymore. We'd talk about other
things.

God doesn't want you no matter what banner you try to sneak in under, cockroach.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Up until now, I have pretty much kept my comments about my Olney-experiences limited to here, UNSCREWED! and a few thoughts at 1 or 2 other commentary sites. I haven't even responded to others' blogs in public.

This week I accepted an invitation to a global online gallery show, linked through many many creators' 360 sites. I'm a bit nervous about the whole endeavor, realizing my silly cartoons are gonna be seen in countries I have little hope of locating on a globe, let alone ever visiting.

I also decided to start a series of blogs, detailing all this . . . this . . . douche-baggery from Olney. And I say 'series' cuz I figure it's gonna take a few entries to cover it all.

Which also means these blogs are gonna be seen all over the bloody world.

Mind you, I had no intention of writing any of this down. I mean, why bother? Why waste time when it's completely delineated right here? And I've been trying so feverishly to follow the Golden Rule, even if Olney can't properly quote it (or acknowledge it, for that matter).

But I've only got so many cheeks to turn. His last slap kinda sealed it for me; that little bit of defamation (look it up, Olney; unlike you, I do have a reputation to build and posting those pictures of my supposed 'cardboard hovel' jeopardizes not only my hopeful profession but my status as a parent) was just the push I warned him about.

Again, it ain't libel if it's true. And I ain't said half the stuff you wept to me about. You wanna to take it there, I'm ready. Again, unlike you I've kept nothing hidden and have apologized for anything I said privately about anyone you were/are/continue to have on your 'short list'.

I'm gonna be talking to global community now.

Spread it all, Doc. Show the fat bastard what it is like.

[DaveRothe]

Up until now, I have pretty much kept my comments about my Olney-experiences limited to here, UNSCREWED! and a few thoughts at 1 or 2 other commentary sites. I haven't even responded to others' blogs in public.

This week I accepted an invitation to a global online gallery show, linked through many many creators' 360 sites. I'm a bit nervous about the whole endeavor, realizing my silly cartoons are gonna be seen in countries I have little hope of locating on a globe, let alone ever visiting.

I also decided to start a series of blogs, detailing all this . . . this . . . douche-baggery from Olney. And I say 'series' cuz I figure it's gonna take a few entries to cover it all.

Which also means these blogs are gonna be seen all over the bloody world.

Mind you, I had no intention of writing any of this down. I mean, why bother? Why waste time when it's completely delineated right here? And I've been trying so feverishly to follow the Golden Rule, even if Olney can't properly quote it (or acknowledge it, for that matter).

But I've only got so many cheeks to turn. His last slap kinda sealed it for me; that little bit of defamation (look it up, Olney; unlike you, I do have a reputation to build and posting those pictures of my supposed 'cardboard hovel' jeopardizes not only my hopeful profession but my status as a parent) was just the push I warned him about.

Again, it ain't libel if it's true. And I ain't said half the stuff you wept to me about. You wanna to take it there, I'm ready. Again, unlike you I've kept nothing hidden and have apologized for anything I said privately about anyone you were/are/continue to have on your 'short list'.

I'm gonna be talking to global community now.

Bout time Doc! Welcome to the short list!!!

[Inkpot1965]

The Band is on stage!

~Bev

Do you mean THE Band? They were great.

[Inkpot1965]

http://tightlipentertainment.com/wp-content/themes/default/img/tle_01.jpg

I like how all "his" characters look like they are afraid of his logo.

AAAAGH!!! The ghost of layouts I was swindled out of!

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

http://tightlipentertainment.com/wp-content/themes/default/img/tle_01.jpg

If I have nightmares from this I will sue you Danny! That is the scariest logo I've ever seen! Imagine a horror book with this on the cover? :eek:

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

KATIE KABOOM!

Damn, I miss Animaniacs. :(

~Bev

Me Too :( Them and Pinky and The Brain are great toons I miss dearly. What happened to them?

JP

[Inkpot1965]

AAAAGH!!! The ghost of layouts I was swindled out of!

Hey, since I penciled that piece, doesn't that mean I now own all those characters?

[Magneto_X]

Up until now, I have pretty much kept my comments about my Olney-experiences limited to here, UNSCREWED! and a few thoughts at 1 or 2 other commentary sites. I haven't even responded to others' blogs in public.

This week I accepted an invitation to a global online gallery show, linked through many many creators' 360 sites. I'm a bit nervous about the whole endeavor, realizing my silly cartoons are gonna be seen in countries I have little hope of locating on a globe, let alone ever visiting.

I also decided to start a series of blogs, detailing all this . . . this . . . douche-baggery from Olney. And I say 'series' cuz I figure it's gonna take a few entries to cover it all.

Which also means these blogs are gonna be seen all over the bloody world.

Mind you, I had no intention of writing any of this down. I mean, why bother? Why waste time when it's completely delineated right here? And I've been trying so feverishly to follow the Golden Rule, even if Olney can't properly quote it (or acknowledge it, for that matter).

But I've only got so many cheeks to turn. His last slap kinda sealed it for me; that little bit of defamation (look it up, Olney; unlike you, I do have a reputation to build and posting those pictures of my supposed 'cardboard hovel' jeopardizes not only my hopeful profession but my status as a parent) was just the push I warned him about.

Again, it ain't libel if it's true. And I ain't said half the stuff you wept to me about. You wanna to take it there, I'm ready. Again, unlike you I've kept nothing hidden and have apologized for anything I said privately about anyone you were/are/continue to have on your 'short list'.

I'm gonna be talking to global community now.

You deserve it, Doc.

It's great to see someone as humble and talented as yourself finally getting the recognition you deserve.


(Wish I was as good at art as you are. Did you do any animation? Your style reminds me of it ala Jeff Smith.)

[Danny Donovan]

Me Too :( Them and Pinky and The Brain are great toons, I miss dearly.

JP

I really liked Buttons and Mindy.. And Chickenboo.

"why? why? why? why? okay I love you buh-bye!"

[Danny Donovan]

Hey, since I penciled that piece, doesn't that mean I now own all those characters?

You own all the visuals!

no money changed hands. you could call them whatever the hell you wanted, and do what you like with them.

Kind of like when Barry Windsor-Smith had that Storm story Marvel refused to publish in MCP so he just renamed it "Astra in Africa" and boom. His own creation. :)

[Papergirl]

Me Too :( Them and Pinky and The Brain are great toons I miss dearly. What happened to them?

JP
Disney got stupid again.

~Bev

[JTPencils]

Hey, since I penciled that piece, doesn't that mean I now own all those characters?

You really WANT them???

[Darediva]

Catching up with things after a short out-of-town trip, and I am THRILLED that someone has already bid on my humble offering on ebay. You guys did so well with the first wave of auctions, and I'm really glad something is now coming to fruition.

Bid on something created by someone on Whale Boy's short list!

[Blake Petit]

Disney got stupid again.

~Bev

Disney didn't do Animaniacs or Pinky and the Brain, that was Warner Brothers. They're the spiritual successors to the Looney Tunes.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Catching up with things after a short out-of-town trip, and I am THRILLED that someone has already bid on my humble offering on ebay. You guys did so well with the first wave of auctions, and I'm really glad something is now coming to fruition.

Bid on something created by someone on Whale Boy's short list!

Soon they will be able to bid on something donated by me! (I am no creator...well, JUST LIKE RICK!)

(But I smell better. And pay my bills. And don't rip off charities. And I am no cockroach. And I created the "Libel" thread and the "Dirty Dozen" thread. So I guess I am not like Rick at all. )

[Papergirl]

Disney didn't do Animaniacs or Pinky and the Brain, that was Warner Brothers. They're the spiritual successors to the Looney Tunes.
Yeah, yeah. I'm sleep deprived. I was thinking WB and typed disney. >.<

~Bev

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Yeah, yeah. I'm sleep deprived. I was thinking WB and typed disney. >.<

~Bev

Time warner just hasn't been the same since the merger. Oh well. I still got the memories. Knighty Night Bugs is still the funniest cartoon I've ever seen. And when The Brain had his noodle noggins for christmas *sniff* *sniff*

JP

[DaveRothe]

Yeah, yeah. I'm sleep deprived. I was thinking WB and typed disney. >.<

~Bev

Papergirlllllllllllllll You are getting sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy. You're eyelids are getting heavy... Now go to... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[Papergirl]

Papergirlllllllllllllll You are getting sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy. You're eyelids are getting heavy... Now go to... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
I think that worked better on you, Dave. ;)

~Bev

[DaveRothe]

I think that worked better on you, Dave. ;)

~Bev

Er, wasn't supposed to work like that! Oh fer cryin out loud! Is this thing on? Can you hear me now?

[Papergirl]

Er, wasn't supposed to work like that! Oh fer cryin out loud! Is this thing on? Can you hear me now?
Did someone say something? I could have sworn I heard a buzzing sound... Almost like someone snoring...

;)

~Bev

[DaveRothe]

Did someone say something? I could have sworn I heard a buzzing sound... Almost like someone snoring...

;)

~Bev

ZZZZZ Zzzzzz zzzzzzz zzzzzz?

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Psst Dave...

When suggestion fails, go with bribery. Cookies, chocolate, animaniacs cartoons...you know...

JP

[Danny Donovan]

TOMORROW HAS COME AND GONE AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO "FACTS"!!!

Seriously, is it so much to ask for ONE honest thing to come out of him?

[Papergirl]

TOMORROW HAS COME AND GONE AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO "FACTS"!!!

Seriously, is it so much to ask for ONE honest thing to come out of him?
Yes, it is too much to ask. Dickless wouldn't know the truth if it hit him upside the head with a 2x4.

~Bev

[JTPencils]

TOMORROW HAS COME AND GONE AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO "FACTS"!!!

Seriously, is it so much to ask for ONE honest thing to come out of him?

*smacks Danny with a damp "Wake Up" rag*

Snap outta it Danny boy, you really thought he was going to follow something up? He's MONTHS behind in his legal threats... those "facts" are just gonna have to wait!!

Now sit down, have a cookie, and wait for the "next shoe to drop" like the rest of us.

[Papergirl]

ZZZZZ Zzzzzz zzzzzzz zzzzzz?

Oh dear. That's not good. I've never had a guy fall asleep on me before! :eek:

Psst Dave...

When suggestion fails, go with bribery. Cookies, chocolate, animaniacs cartoons...you know...

JP

Smart, smart man. Listen to him! :p

~Bev

[Danny Donovan]

*smacks Danny with a damp "Wake Up" rag*

Snap outta it Danny boy, you really thought he was going to follow something up? He's MONTHS behind in his legal threats... those "facts" are just gonna have to wait!!

Now sit down, have a cookie, and wait for the "next shoe to drop" like the rest of us.

Yay! Cookie!

Well being a paranoid delusional that saves every little piece and snippit of e-mail to use against someone...

I doubt we'll see those "facts" any more than we'll see his treatiese on Small Press

Yes, it is too much to ask. Dickless wouldn't know the truth if it hit him upside the head with a 2x4.

~Bev

he needs a whack from a "clue by four" copyright and trademarked by my friend Erika.

lol.

[Papergirl]

Yay! Cookie!

Well being a paranoid delusional that saves every little piece and snippit of e-mail to use against someone...

I doubt we'll see those "facts" any more than we'll see his treatiese on Small Press



he needs a whack from a "clue by four" copyright and trademarked by my friend Erika.

lol.
Would the flat of my sword upside his head do?

~Bev

[stealthwise]

Oh dear. That's not good. I've never had a guy fall asleep on me before! :eek:

~Bev

How about underneath you?

Ohohoho... um, I probably don't know you well enough to make that joke, do I?

I'm all paranoid after throwing Kid Omega into a hissy fit earlier today.

[TomStillwell]

Hey Tom (or whomever)

Just a suggestion, but you might want to be a little more descriptive with your titles on ebay. Just saying this because I did not realize that McKeever's stuff was digests until I read the discription. Thought it was single issues.

Just a friendly suggestion. Keep up the good work!

Well, you only have so many words to use in the titles. I would hope people bidding would actually read the descriptions.

[TomStillwell]

It'll be in Illinois.

Dave, you bastard! You didn't tell me you live in Illinois!

[TomStillwell]

It was a ramble that JT and I had to talk over to try and make sense of. There were parts that made my head spin. But how do you tell the boss he can't write?

When you find out let my artists know.;)

[TomStillwell]

Congratulations to all!

And Scott Shaw! kicked my ass, like I knew he would.

On the other hand, I have a book in the second auction (courtesy Nat "Muss 'Em Up" Gertler) and it's already over thirty bucks. Another fifty-five or so, and I can catch up!

But in Scott!'s honor, I shall find a way to cameo Pig-Iron in SUPERMAN #669 and #670. This, I swear!

kdb

Kurt, I'm going to require all donations from now on are linked back to you in someway so you'll be on top.

Pssst...Scott...some guy wants a Zoo Crew custom paint job on his Hummer...he's got big money...

[TomStillwell]

He didn't have anyone investigated for anything. Read my sig.

Rick Olney is a liar and a loser.

I'm still waiting to be formally investigated. I went out and bought a tux and everything.

[TomStillwell]

http://tightlipentertainment.com/wp-content/themes/default/img/tle_01.jpg

I like how all "his" characters look like they are afraid of his logo.

Not Mucus Grimjar. He's in his action "standing still as a coat rack" pose.

[Sarah Beach]

DocA! I know you don't really buy into RO's poison, but don't let him rattle you in the least about your abilities. You'll do fine on the global stage.

Heck, I was wowed by the first thing of yours I saw, and that was the Sockpuppet! A very humble offering. And I knew I wanted to hire you on the basis of three simple pieces (sockpuppet, Boss Moloch, and the con art you did for the whaleflesh).

That's your own talent and it owes NOTHING to RO. He's just trying to steal some of the credit due all to you!

[Sarah Beach]

Unfortunate double post. Nothing here. Move along. :)

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Smart, smart man. Listen to him! :p

~Bev

That's right, I'm a smart man. *presents Chocolate Chip cookies) :D

;)

JP

[Samuel Catalino]

I'm still waiting to be formally investigated. I went out and bought a tux and everything.

Tom,

Don't hold your breath.

Best,

Samuel

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

TOMORROW HAS COME AND GONE AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO "FACTS"!!!

Seriously, is it so much to ask for ONE honest thing to come out of him?

If he could lie about his name, he would.

JP

[Samuel Catalino]

TOMORROW HAS COME AND GONE AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO "FACTS"!!!

Seriously, is it so much to ask for ONE honest thing to come out of him?

Danny,

And you are surprised because? Don't let it ruin your day.

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

If he could lie about his name, he would.

JP

Joshua,

Perhaps after the wave puts him under, he might very well want to.

Best,

Samuel

[Cam63]

Wannted to let you all know that dispite Rick's thought that The Jam would be like MMC, we were very successful and most of our folks even made a profit after their table money was recoupped.
Joe Zierman, who is a great guy made a special illo for the occasion and we wanted to share.

http://www.inter-fan.org/submissions/zierman/galacticolney.bmp

That's the only time I've seen that logo that has pleased me.

[Cam63]

Hee! I so love Slappy Squirrel!

:D

~Bev

Yeah, you would.

*Replaces icepack on cheek*

[Cam63]

I'm not sure. He does seem to loath himself a bit. After all, to commit this much blatant self destruction he's practically *begging* someone to take every possession (possibly even his life via prison) when he and everybody else knows he stands no chance in hell of winning a debate, let alone a court case.

He'll be right.

He's a trained Marine, afterall.

[JTPencils]

Joshua,

Perhaps after the wave puts him under, he might very well want to.

Best,

Samuel

He's so unoriginal, if he DID change it, it would probably be something sterling like "Rock Ilney".

[JTPencils]

Call me punch drunk from all the pages here... but wasn't there a mention of a fellow named Jim Main? His web page or some such? I'm merely asking because I recently received an inquiry from someone of that name.

[Cam63]

Just punch up his name on the search function.

[JTPencils]

Just punch up his name on the search function.

Thanks Cam. Wasn't sure if that would work or not. I'll give it a shot!

No Go Cam, said the name Jim was too short or common, and only focused on Main.

[Cam63]

Hmm...

Try Google or Yahoo.

[Inkpot1965]

You own all the visuals!

no money changed hands. you could call them whatever the hell you wanted, and do what you like with them.

Kind of like when Barry Windsor-Smith had that Storm story Marvel refused to publish in MCP so he just renamed it "Astra in Africa" and boom. His own creation. :)

Well, I'd have to take a back seat to all the creators who came up with those character likenesses [of course, I did a few of those].

[Inkpot1965]

When you find out let my artists know.;)

The answer is easy, but it ends with "you're fired".

[Samuel Catalino]

He's so unoriginal, if he DID change it, it would probably be something sterling like "Rock Ilney".

Jim,

Rock Ilney? Don't give him any ideas. ;)

Best,

Samuel

[Inkpot1965]

Jim,

Rock Ilney? Don't give him any ideas. ;)

Best,

Samuel

More likely he'd try and call himself Sgt. Fury

[DocAbsurd]

Call me punch drunk from all the pages here... but wasn't there a mention of a fellow named Jim Main? His web page or some such? I'm merely asking because I recently received an inquiry from someone of that name.

Jim's a zine/small press publisher of no small repute. He's a publishing empire all his own.

He's got a Yahoo group that Olney dumped back in December when all his inactions were exposed; he re-joined a couple weeks ago, then re-quit, then re-re-joined, then re-re-quit last week.

No-one wuvs him enough there, I guess.

Jim posts here under 'blackhawk' something-or-other. He had the winning bid on Scott's Fred Flintstone sketch.

[Cam63]

Hey, Kurt, have you ever considered doing a sequel; JLA vs. Avengers Vs. The Monster Squad and that damn talking fish plus Frankenborg?

I bet it'd sell TWO!

Gail

What about beer coupons ?

[Papergirl]

How about underneath you?

Ohohoho... um, I probably don't know you well enough to make that joke, do I?

I'm all paranoid after throwing Kid Omega into a hissy fit earlier today.
HA! Nice one.

Eh, you've been a regular around the Vertigo board long enough that you're allowed to make those jokes. I'll simply bop you upside the head with a newspaper. No hissy fits. I'm not Kid Omega. ;)

~Bev

[Papergirl]

Yeah, you would.

*Replaces icepack on cheek*
Hey! You deserved that slap after what YOU did! :p

~Bev

[TomStillwell]

The answer is easy, but it ends with "you're fired".

Only if you're Rick Olney.

[Samuel Catalino]

Only if you're Rick Olney.


Tom,

Interesting play on words.

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

More likely he'd try and call himself Sgt. Fury


Perhaps Sgt. Crook?

[TomStillwell]

Tom,

Interesting play on words.

Best,

Samuel

Maybe I should become a writer.

[Samuel Catalino]

Maybe I should become a writer.

Tom,

Gosh, I thought you were. I am fortunate if I can tell my right from my wrong or is it my left?

Best,

Samuel

[Kurt Busiek]

He's so unoriginal, if he DID change it, it would probably be something sterling like "Rock Ilney".

Why would he rework something of his own when he could swipe from someone else?

"Guy Simone."

"Buck Dickson."

"Tiny Isafella."

kdb

[Samuel Catalino]

Why would he rework something of his own when he could swipe from someone else?

"Guy Simone."

"Buck Dickson."

"Tiny Isafella."

kdb

Kurt,

Cute, but I know you can do better. What about Kirk Wade?

Best,

Samuel

[Sarah Beach]

"Tiny Isafella"? Isn't that what he calls......

Okay, I won't go there.


But seriously, I don't think he would change his name. In spite of a practice of using sockpuppets, I think he actually has a deal of his ego wrapped up in his name. He feels it is a force to be reckoned with. Or something like that.

[CutterMike]

There's one thing (among many!) that I've never understood

As I've said before, I do illustration and design, and I've done a fair amount of logo work. Does anyone have any clue why Rick thought that that '80s porno-publisher logo "said" TightLip?

I mean... MY definition of good vs. bad design has nothing to do with the classic pyramid/Golden Mean/technical stuff that we learn in Design 101. In my definition GOOD design does the job it's supposed to do, BAD design doesn't. It's that simple. (And if anyone has two minutes to kill, and is at all curious as to how I define the above terms, a longer version of this screedlet can be found here (http://yankeeclipperjournal.blogspot.com/2006/05/just-to-show.html).) And by the definition of "does the job it's supposed to do", the TightLip logo is just BAD design. As I said, to me it looks like a bad porno publisher's mark.

I know about Benny Leal and his other credits; that's not an issue, as far as I'm concerned. Geoffrey of Monmouth was in prison for, essentially, passing bad checks and while there he wrote the stories of King Arthur as we know them today and, as mentioned when the subject of Benny came up earlier, many of us have drawn/written erotica at one time or another.

My question is: did Rick ever mention to anyone *WHY* he thought that that logo was appropriate for what was, presumably, to be an all-ages comics publisher?

(Inquiring minds, and all...)

[JeffreyWKramer]

Would the flat of my sword upside his head do?

~Bev

Get the sword all slimy and stinky, most likely, and maybe bend it a bit.

[Papergirl]

Get the sword all slimy and stinky, most likely, and maybe bend it a bit.
Good point.

Anyone got a big 2 handed sword I can borrow? :D

~Bev

[Sarah Beach]

There's one thing (among many!) that I've never understood

As I've said before, I do illustration and design, and I've done a fair amount of logo work. Does anyone have any clue why Rick thought that that '80s porno-publisher logo "said" TightLip?

I mean... MY definition of good vs. bad design has nothing to do with the classic pyramid/Golden Mean/technical stuff that we learn in Design 101. In my definition GOOD design does the job it's supposed to do, BAD design doesn't. It's that simple. (And if anyone has two minutes to kill, and is at all curious as to how I define the above terms, a longer version of this screedlet can be found here (http://yankeeclipperjournal.blogspot.com/2006/05/just-to-show.html).) And by the definition of "does the job it's supposed to do", the TightLip logo is just BAD design. As I said, to me it looks like a bad porno publisher's mark.

I know about Benny Leal and his other credits; that's not an issue, as far as I'm concerned. Geoffrey of Monmouth was in prison for, essentially, passing bad checks and while there he wrote the stories of King Arthur as we know them today and, as mentioned when the subject of Benny came up earlier, many of us have drawn/written erotica at one time or another.

My question is: did Rick ever mention to anyone *WHY* he thought that that logo was appropriate for what was, presumably, to be an all-ages comics publisher?

(Inquiring minds, and all...)

He's been asked that here and in other venues, and I've never yet seen a straight answer from him. He'll harp about how everyone trashes it, about Benny as an artist, he might even mention "drooling over comics", but never a specific response to why he chose it or how it came about.

But I agree with you about logo design. I know I designed my "scribble" years and years ago (down to the number of loops and where it would cross the straight line), and had it in waiting until I was ready to use it. It's one of those things where I don't know why (on an analytical intellectual level) I like it, I just know it pleases me on an aesthetic level and it does what I want it to do.

But Rick's? I really don't know why he thinks it is so wonderful.

[Kurt Busiek]

Kurt,

Cute, but I know you can do better. What about Kirk Wade?

I can do better, sure.

I've published under pseudonyms ranging from David Kirk to Cordwainer Fury, among others.

But can Rick? He had to swipe even a press release from someone else.

kdb

[Kurt Busiek]

But I agree with you about logo design. I know I designed my "scribble" years and years ago (down to the number of loops and where it would cross the straight line), and had it in waiting until I was ready to use it. It's one of those things where I don't know why (on an analytical intellectual level) I like it, I just know it pleases me on an aesthetic level and it does what I want it to do.

And the fact that you like it led you to a coherent approach -- the logo says "scribble," and that suits your company name.

Rick's logo goes with "TightLip" about as well as your logo would go with the name "Right Angle Productions."

Who knows, maybe that's as tight as his lips get...

kdb

[wishlish]

I can do better, sure.

I've published under pseudonyms ranging from David Kirk to Cordwainer Fury, among others.

But can Rick? He had to swipe even a press release from someone else.

kdb

So I Googled up "Cordwainer Fury", and the only story that comes up is an Iron man short from Marvel Super Heroes #12. Fury is the plotter...and you're the scripter.

Why/how?

[Gail Simone]

I can do better, sure.

I've published under pseudonyms ranging from David Kirk to Cordwainer Fury, among others.

But can Rick? He had to swipe even a press release from someone else.

kdb

Oh, my god, you're "Kurt Busiek!"

Gail

[Gail Simone]

And the fact that you like it led you to a coherent approach -- the logo says "scribble," and that suits your company name.

Rick's logo goes with "TightLip" about as well as your logo would go with the name "Right Angle Productions."

Who knows, maybe that's as tight as his lips get...

kdb

Unless the ass of any comics pro who hasn't caught on to him is around...

Gail

[Calliope's Comics]

The logo makes sense if the original name of the company was going to be Salad Tosser Entertainment

[CutterMike]

Good point.

Anyone got a big 2 handed sword I can borrow? :D

~Bev

Generally, the big two-handers don't really HAVE a good point, do they?

[Calliope's Comics]

Oh

I had forgotten all about this until I logged into myspace today:


http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=79866636&blogID=175219796&MyToken=ba7b3d4a-d2d0-40b7-bc73-cd91330c1867


I did appear in HFH #4 but I am still waiting to show up in a TLE production.

[Danny Donovan]

Because MSPaint is my friend.... ;)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Galactus.png

Ah, doing things like this when I have work to do.. THAT'S the mark of "genius".

*sigh*

[bert]

Because MSPaint is my friend.... ;)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Galactus.png

Ah, doing things like this when I have work to do.. THAT'S the mark of "genius".

*sigh*

Interesting that the "eyes" of the "Dipshit entertainment" logo look kinda like Swasticas.

after witnessing Peanut's rants here? . . . maybe there *is* some truth in advertising.

[Kurt Busiek]

So I Googled up "Cordwainer Fury", and the only story that comes up is an Iron man short from Marvel Super Heroes #12. Fury is the plotter...and you're the scripter.

Why/how?

The artist, um, reinterpreted the plot heavily, which is why the villain in that story and all the outdoor backgrounds were redrawn by James Fry.

The story was so far from my original plot that it was scrapped when originally done, and dug back up when Marvel decided to do those MARVEL SUPER HEROES quarterlies as a way of using up inventory -- in essence, barfing out their trash for a little cash.

I was offered the chance to dialogue that story at long last. The reason I agreed was that if I didn't, I would be credited with the plot, and nobody would know that the plot was awful because of stuff the artist had done to it.

[Seriously, he deleted the villain's ex-wife and made the villain a teenager (because "teenage computer hacker" wasn't a cliche, right?), and put him in a Motocross outfit. He eliminated the West Coast Avengers and replaced them with the Iron Man supporting cast, including a character who was already dead at that point in continuity, threw in an opening sequence about Iron Man fixing a company satellite at a time Iron Man didn't have any satellites, put in a page with "lots of room for explanations" on the scene right before the finale reveal, and topped it off by drawing lots of very specific Los Angeles locations with copious liner notes about how East Coast writers didn't know anything about California geography and always got it wrong, apparently unaware that by taking out the West Coast Avengers and putting in the Iron Man supporting cast, he'd moved the story to San Jose, over 300 miles from LA.]

So I didn't want someone else dialoguing it and me getting credit for that lousy mess of a plot. I agreed to dialogue it if we could make some corrections -- changing the villain back to an adult (a short adult, mind you, though the character point with his ex-wife still wasn't there), giving him a better costume, erasing all those Los Angeles backgrounds and putting in Bay Area backgrounds, eliminating the dead character, and more. It took a full week to dialogue the issue, because I had to figure out how to make all the altered scenes work in some sort of way, including figuring out what the characters could be talking about on the "lots of explanation!" page that couldn't have any explanations on it, and compressing the actual explanation into the two panels that were now available for it -- and it was all the more slow going because every time I made a scene work, I got mad because I was making the artist look good.

In the end, I didn't want credit for the plot, I didn't want to list it as "co-plot," since we very much didn't collaborate and I didn't want to make it look like we did, and the editor understandably didn't want to credit it to "Plot by Kurt Busiek, plot alerations by _______."

So, Cordwainer Fury got the nod. It's actually a nod to two other pseudonyms -- Harlan Ellison's "Cordwainer Bird," the pseud he used when he wanted to "flip the bird" to the producers, and a buddy of mine's "Jack Fury," a pseud he used to disavow a job he felt had come out bad through the fault of others messing it up.

And that's...the rest of the story...

kdb

[DaveRothe]

Kurt,

Cute, but I know you can do better. What about Kirk Wade?

Best,

Samuel

You forgot about Burt Kusiek!!!

[Sarah Beach]

Wow. The server ate my post three times! Geesh.

Anyway..... Wow, Kurt!

Makes me want to stay with my committment to Full Script First method of writing! Heh. But that the artist didn't even bother to check with you? Now that's ... disrespectful, at the very least.

[DaveRothe]

Good point.

Anyone got a big 2 handed sword I can borrow? :D

~Bev

Is that anything like a second hand sword Bev?:D

[Kurt Busiek]

You forgot about Burt Kusiek!!!

I've used that one, too.

kdb

[TonyIsabella]

I'm having a crazy weekend, which is a prelude to a week when I have to go to a doctor, take someone to a doctor, go to one of Kelly's basketball games, and get ready for my dad's birthday party next weekend.

This means no new TONY'S ONLINE TIPS until Friday, which is when the column that references Olney will run. It's just as well. I'll probably piss off more than a few people with that column, including some I actually like.

But, since "Kurt Busiek" was giving out his pseudonyms, I figured I would give you one of mine.

Part of the real script for Black Lightning #9 (second series) was used in the butched script that ran in the issue. I wouldn't let DC credit me as co-writer and made them use a pseudonym instead:

Lane Shiro

Whose letters can be rearranged to spell...

Oh, heck, why don't you kids figure it out?

Heh, heh, heh.

Tony

[Kurt Busiek]

Wow, Kurt!

Makes me want to stay with my committment to Full Script First method of writing! Heh. But that the artist didn't even bother to check with you? Now that's ... disrespectful, at the very least.

I could, of course, tell the story of the job I wrote a full script for and the artist -- the lovely and talented Bill Willingham, creator of FABLES, one of the best books on the market today -- drew the art for in such a way that there was no room for the word balloons, so the editor scrapped it.

Neither plot-style nor full-script is foolproof, but the fact that jobs can get wrecked when done by any approach doesn't make that approach inherently wrong, it just means someone screwed up.

I find versatility pays off -- I can work full script when that'll serve the project best, and plot-style when that will. Or variants in-between.

But yes, an artist taking it on himself to "improve" the story in major ways like that without consultation with writer or at least editor is pretty disrespectful. In this case, I was a new enough writer that when I told the editor that the pencils didn't really match the plot, his reaction was, "Geez, this Busiek guy gets a fill-in gig and immediately turns into a prima donna! Why's he whining?"

He kept pressing me to deliver dialogue, I kept asking him to at least compare the plot and art, and he figured I was hopelessly unprofessional. When the whole pencil job was finally in, the editor realized he wasn't getting anything out of me so he'd better see what niggling inconsistencies I was whining about. He pulled out the plot, started to read it with the art at hand, and thought, "Wait, did we send the artist the wrong plot?" The splash page I'd written was a close-up on a computer screen showing Guardsman armor schematics with crumpled beer cans around the computer; the splash page the editor was looking at was Iron Man fixing a satellite in orbit as a space shuttle hovered nearby. It didn't seem to have any relation to what I'd written.

He kept reading, started to recognize the story, more or less, and realized that, far from being a prima donna, I'd been underselling how much the artist had changed the story -- and he wound up writing the whole job off as hopeless. However, he gave me another Iron Man fill-in to write as reparation (it also wound up in Marvel Super Heroes), and didn't give the artist involved any more penciling work, so justice of a sort was done.

kdb

[Larry Dixon]

No, I AM Burt Kusiek.

Poseur!!!

[DaveRothe]

I'm having a crazy weekend, which is a prelude to a week when I have to go to a doctor, take someone to a doctor, go to one of Kelly's basketball games, and get ready for my dad's birthday party next weekend.

This means no new TONY'S ONLINE TIPS until Friday, which is when the column that references Olney will run. It's just as well. I'll probably piss off more than a few people with that column, including some I actually like.

But, since "Kurt Busiek" was giving out his pseudonyms, I figured I would give you one of mine.

Part of the real script for Black Lightning #9 (second series) was used in the butched script that ran in the issue. I wouldn't let DC credit me as co-writer and made them use a pseudonym instead:

Lane Shiro

Whose letters can be rearranged to spell...

Oh, heck, why don't you kids figure it out?

Heh, heh, heh.

Tony


Could it be Lion Share?

[JamesRitcheyIII]

Hey, since I penciled that piece, doesn't that mean I now own all those characters?

If you designed these characters, and were never paid for them, you do!

You really WANT them???

It ain't the chartacters, it's what you do with them. Except for 'Jive-Ass Halitosis-Sufferin', Saliva Gland-Impaired Swamp-Thing-Looking Dude'--I wouldn't know what the hell to do with--that.

I could think of no more delicious cruelty than taking these characters, reworking and renaming them, and publishing--perhaps as an interesting companion piece to Unscrewed, utilizing the talents of the folks that assclown horn-swoggled. I'd take glee in writing it, and I bet you you could get Bobby Nash, or half a dozen writers around here interested. I actually offered to be the 'Stan Lee' to Rick's mildly retarded 'Martin Goodman' at one point, when I realized he was writing on likely about a sixth-graders level, with the originality and nuance of a second-grader.

I'd love to remake and rename 'Freedom Three' as leftist freedom-fighters in a fascist corporation-owned America, in an effort to secure that second heart attack everyone's been praying for. :D

[Kurt Busiek]

But, since "Kurt Busiek" was giving out his pseudonyms, I figured I would give you one of mine.

Part of the real script for Black Lightning #9 (second series) was used in the butched script that ran in the issue. I wouldn't let DC credit me as co-writer and made them use a pseudonym instead:

Lane Shiro

Whose letters can be rearranged to spell...

Oh, heck, why don't you kids figure it out?

Horse Nail?

Sore Hinal?

Shinola Re?

Rhino Seal?

Rash O'Neil?

kdb

[CutterMike]

I can do better, sure.

I've published under pseudonyms ranging from David Kirk to Cordwainer Fury, among others.

But can Rick? He had to swipe even a press release from someone else.

kdb

You know... Just because of RO's silly hang-up about "'Gail Simone'", I think that I may start putting quotes around ANY pen/stage name, and maybe any attribution that isn't conclusively known to be the person's REAL name.

Off the top of my head, I've got:

"Stan Lee"
"Jack Kirby"
"O. Henry"
"Mickey Spillane"
"John Wayne"
"Lewis Carroll"
"George Orwell"
"Homer"
...should I include "Anonymous"... ?

[Kurt Busiek]

Could it be Lion Share?

Arse-Holin?

Nose Hair L?

kdb

[Kurt Busiek]

Arse-Holin?

Nose Hair L?

Harlie Son?

Liar-Hosen?

A Lie Shorn?

kdb

[CutterMike]

Arse-Holin?

Nose Hair L?

kdb

Real Hosin'?

[Danny Donovan]

Horse Nail?

Sore Hinal?

Shinola Re?

Rhino Seal?

Rash O'Neil?

kdb


I came up with Potato... I SUCK at word games. :p



I could think of no more delicious cruelty than taking these characters, reworking and renaming them, and publishing--perhaps as an interesting companion piece to Unscrewed, utilizing the talents of the folks that assclown horn-swoggled. I'd take glee in writing it, and I bet you you could get Bobby Nash, or half a dozen writers around here interested. I actually offered to be the 'Stan Lee' to Rick's mildly retarded 'Martin Goodman' at one point, when I realized he was writing on likely about a sixth-graders level, with the originality and nuance of a second-grader.

Stop being mean to sixth graders!! Wow. I finally got to do one of those gags. Go me.

Personally I think it'd be REALLY cool if anyone wanted to do something like that as a webstrip for the Unscrewed! site. I think "Eagle" is a really impressive visual. the concept is dumber than a doornail but...

I dunno. You could do some really interesting things with a Swamp Thing clone.. probably not much Alan Moore hasn't already done with *THE* Swamp Thing but...

As for the plot vs. full script argument. I really like full script best.

;)

[Kurt Busiek]

Harlie Son?

Liar-Hosen?

A Lie Shorn?

Los Hernia?

Slain Hero?

I'll bet on the last one, though I do like "Liar-Hosen." Those would be pants that catch on fire at appropriate moments, I figure.

kdb

[Danny Donovan]

Ah in case you missed these wonderful trips down futility lane....


The blog of doomy doom that never posts about anything it says it will! The Mohawk Valley Comics Newsletter Emerges!

A new comics newsletter afoot in upstate New York!

We tagged it theMohawk Valley Comics Newsletter, because we figured it addressed the region and hobby/activity area that was active for so long and now isn't.



My partners in this endeavor are parents from a number of my ORCAKids ™ comics club. While we had stopped having local meetings for a time, it was suggested that this effort best 'vocalized' in print what parents missed for their kids. So we had a small meeting and the MVCN (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MVCN/) has become both an online egroup on Yahoo.com and a print newsletter that'll be handed out locally to interested families, younger readers, libraries, and schools. It'll be a sister publicaton of (ORCA) Organized Readers of Comics Associated's Fresh 'zine, only more of a throw-away commodity. Both efforts will be looking to support the creative efforts youngsters and oldsters alike!



This isn't my first surge into these territories. Back earlier with Fresh those of us involved in its composition pushed it into schools and libraries. The MVCN will be filling that gap left unfilled for the yaers that ORCA hasn't published Fresh. Again, some examples of Fresh covers are posted to show you our level of creativity:





And -- As time moves forward, ORCA hopes to get back into producing some rendition of its former on-site convention give-away tagged Splash back in the first several years of this new century.
Examples of SPLASH:





The MVCN is presently accepting art and column submissions. The first issue is being published and distributed April 15th. Unfortunately, the MVCN cannot at this time pay for submissions, but if you give us a year to get our advertising and sponsors under us -- we'll have a submissions guideline instituted to help offset amateur creative costs.


A little later I'll give some insight into the ORComx APA, another superb periodical connected to ORCA!
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Last night finished the Drama Club production of Mohawk High School's presentation of "The Pajama Game".



This outrageous comedy based on the Novel 7and 1/2 Cents by Richard Bissell deals with the labor troubles at the Sleep Tite Pajama Factory, Cedar Rapids, Iowa.



In the mist of this ordeal, love blossoms between Babe, the leader of the Union Grievance Committee, and Sid, the new factory superintendent in from Chicago. "Sid" was played by my 16 year old youngest son, Nels. This was his second year in participating in the Drama club. Last year he was a cast member of "Aida" and had a ball with it! We got to see his dancing ability last yaer. This year his vocal prowess was the treat! Along with his participating in several school sports and being a very intelligent student, his mom and myself are so proud of him! The entire cast did a SUPERB job! Although, I have to tell you that it was funny seeing some of these kids hanging around the house as Nelson's friends and then to see them each as very capable your performers. Amazing.



As the workers demand for a 7 and 1/2 cents raise spirals out of control, so does the life of Sid and Babe who find themselves on opposite sides of the strike.


This enticing play includes songs such as "Steam Heat," "7 and 1/2 Cents," and "Hernando's Hideaway."


All of our immediate family (Nelson's sister and three brothers and their families) made it to watch him perform, and be dazzled by his voice. Our children can all sing and have acting talent. It is a deep pool in our family tree. His aunt Dawn, aunt Donna, aunt Andrea, and his Grampa Olney made it too! This play jumped to life with a cast of 60, accompanied by an orchestra of 12.

[Kurt Busiek]

As for the plot vs. full script argument. I really like full script best.

I like whatever method will result in the best comic book, which varies from character to character and artist to artist.

The job is never to write a good script, it's to write a good comic book.

kdb

[Danny Donovan]

I like whatever method will result in the best comic book, which varies from character to character and artist to artist.

The job is never to write a good script, it's to write a good comic book.

kdb

Very true!

[CutterMike]

Los Hernia?

Slain Hero?

I'll bet on the last one, though I do like "Liar-Hosen." Those would be pants that catch on fire at appropriate moments, I figure.

kdb

Bad kdb! BAD! Made coffee come out my nose! BAD!!

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

I like whatever method will result in the best comic book, which varies from character to character and artist to artist.

The job is never to write a good script, it's to write a good comic book.

kdb

I want to bronze these words of iron and hang them on my wall which is wood and stucco.

[colleen]

I know about Benny Leal and his other credits; that's not an issue, as far as I'm concerned. Geoffrey of Monmouth was in prison for, essentially, passing bad checks and while there he wrote the stories of King Arthur as we know them today and, as mentioned when the subject of Benny came up earlier, many of us have drawn/written erotica at one time or another.



Oh dear, at the risk of being pedantic (like that's ever stopped me before), I humbly submit that you are mixing up Geoffrey of Monmouth, the respected 12th century Catholic Bishop, author of Historia Regum: Britanniae, Prophetiae Merlini and Vita Merlini and one Sir Thomas Malory, the 15th century knight and ne'er do well, who was charged with rape, pillaging, vandalism, sheep stealing, cattle rustling, and a host of other crimes. While lingering in the hoosegow, Malory wrote La Morte D'Arthur.

Some suggest the criminal charges against Malory were trumped up due to his political leanings. When the Lancastrians whom Malory supported eventually won out in government, he was freed, property restored, and he died wealthy and respected. Moreover, he can't have had it too badly while imprisoned, else he would not have had access to enough pen and paper to write a massive novel.

Regardless, dear Bishop Geoffrey of Monmouth was a man of spotless reputation and character.

[colleen]

"It is a deep pool in our family tree."


It is a shallow writer who mixes his metaphors.

[Linkara]

Hey, when did we move into discussion of Arthurian authors? I want in!

[TonyIsabella]

Slain Hero?

kdb

We have a winner!

Tony

[Matt Doc Martin]

Ah in case you missed these wonderful trips down futility lane....



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For starters, I have heard his daughter "sing".

Anybody can sing. But that doesn't make it sound good. Just like his ability as a "writer".


Secondly,

The MVCN is presently accepting art and column submissions. The first issue is being published and distributed April 15th. Unfortunately, the MVCN cannot at this time pay for submissions, but if you give us a year to get our advertising and sponsors under us -- we'll have a submissions guideline instituted to help offset amateur creative costs.




Anyone that submits anything is taking a sucker's bet. And I would LOVE to see who is advertising with him in a year!

*prepares more emails*

[Buckminster Futter]

Lane Shiro

Whose letters can be rearranged to spell...

Oh, heck, why don't you kids figure it out?

Heh, heh, heh.

Tony

Olnei Rash?

>gulp<

[NatGertler]

And even some of the horror stories of artistic transformations would not be horror stories in the right situation. The right artist can alter and transform in major ways and help you end up with a better work, because they make it into something that they can work with better.

For example, Mighty Paul Smith is a guy who knows a thing or two about telling stories, and he prefers to have a reasonably free rein on the visuals. And as unhappy as my plot-based writing experience have been (such as the guy who worked in a number of pre-drawn pages he had and eliminated from the story the things he couldn't draw -- which turned out to be "people", primarily), I'd jump at the chance to do something with Paul on those terms, because I would be confident that something good would result even if it wasn't what I envisioned. When it comes to storytelling, Paul knows a thing or two. (Probably two.)

But in those situations, it's all the more important to give your artists not just the description of the picture, but the -why- of the story, to explain the thematic heart of the tale, to make sure that that doesn't get lost. (And it's always good to make sure the artist has your phone number, to encourage clarification and possibly even negotiation before the redesign hits the page.)

[Flamebird]

Good point.

Anyone got a big 2 handed sword I can borrow? :D

~Bev

I've got a nice double-edged "King Arthur" type sword, you could use.

Conversely, I have a nice rusty scimitar, maybe give him tetanus with it. ;)

[Calliope's Comics]

Wait a second....

If your family tree is in a deep pool, doesn't that mean it is growing in a swamp.

[Calliope's Comics]

Originally Posted by Papergirl
Good point.

Anyone got a big 2 handed sword I can borrow?

~Bev




You are better off with a longquan sword. I have one and they are great. It is a small staff that pulls into two daggars. Easily concealed and it fits back together to look like a staff.

[JKCarrier]

Horse Nail?

Sore Hinal?

Shinola Re?

Rhino Seal?

Rash O'Neil?


Iron Leash?
Judging by some of your anecdotes, certain artists should be kept on one... ;)

[Danny Donovan]

Wait a second....

If your family tree is in a deep pool, doesn't that mean it is growing in a swamp.

And the countdown begins on when the first round of RO as Solomon Grundy photoshop things pop up. ;)

[Calliope's Comics]

And the countdown begins on when the first round of RO as Solomon Grundy photoshop things pop up. ;)

C'mon that is an unfair comparison. At least for Grundy it is random after every reincarnation whether or not he is going to be smart.

[CutterMike]

Oh dear, at the risk of being pedantic (like that's ever stopped me before), I humbly submit that you are mixing up Geoffrey of Monmouth, the respected 12th century Catholic Bishop, author of Historia Regum: Britanniae, Prophetiae Merlini and Vita Merlini and one Sir Thomas Malory, the 15th century knight and ne'er do well, who was charged with rape, pillaging, vandalism, sheep stealing, cattle rustling, and a host of other crimes. While lingering in the hoosegow, Malory wrote La Morte D'Arthur.


You are absolutely right (not that you needed me to confirm the fact), and I hereby most humbly apologize to the shade of the good Geoffrey.

A number of years ago I did a fair bit of research for a GN that I wanted to do of the Matter of Britain as a (more or less) straight historical piece. Obviously, neuronal spazzification has taken place in the intervening years.

So why did I never do the book...? Two words:

Flop sweat.

Cutting one's teeth on something that big is... intimidating.

[Danny Donovan]

C'mon that is an unfair comparison. At least for Grundy it is random after every reincarnation whether or not he is going to be smart.

I deeply apologize to Grundies (Grundi? What is the pluralization of Grundy?) everywhere.

[Danny Donovan]

Verdamnt double posts

[Danny Donovan]

Sorry for the triple post!

See it as a boone from the triple headed fish god.

[Kurt Busiek]

And even some of the horror stories of artistic transformations would not be horror stories in the right situation. The right artist can alter and transform in major ways and help you end up with a better work, because they make it into something that they can work with better.

For example, Mighty Paul Smith is a guy who knows a thing or two about telling stories, and he prefers to have a reasonably free rein on the visuals. And as unhappy as my plot-based writing experience have been (such as the guy who worked in a number of pre-drawn pages he had and eliminated from the story the things he couldn't draw -- which turned out to be "people", primarily), I'd jump at the chance to do something with Paul on those terms, because I would be confident that something good would result even if it wasn't what I envisioned. When it comes to storytelling, Paul knows a thing or two. (Probably two.)

True dat.

I've only gotten the chance to work with Paul one-and-a-half times, and he had a free hand with the storytelling, and made it sing. George Pérez is another guy who will transform a story, but who will still tell it, and tell it well.

Those are guys who can be trusted to seve the story well, just to do it in their particular way. That's quite a different thing from an artist who wants to tell a different story, or leave out all the hard bits, or whatever.

Collaboration is the art of playing to your creative partners' strengths, and when done well, you wind up with more than the sum of the parts.

kdb

[Samuel Catalino]

You forgot about Burt Kusiek!!!

Dave,

I guess I was over estimating R.O's "creative" ability. That might be something he would come up.

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

Because MSPaint is my friend.... ;)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Galactus.png

Ah, doing things like this when I have work to do.. THAT'S the mark of "genius".

*sigh*

Nice job, Danny, but I don't see the artist credit on this.

Yes, I am being a bit nit picky, but this one is one of Joe's great hits.

Best,

Samuel

[Danny Donovan]

Nice job, Danny, but I don't see the artist credit on this.

Yes, I am being a bit nit picky, but this one is one of Joe's great hits.

Best,

Samuel

Thanks Sam!

Yeah, I couldn't color around the signature without it looking rather jagged. ;)

But yeah! Joe did an awesome job on it! I just messed it up with my finger paints. ;)

[Papergirl]

Generally, the big two-handers don't really HAVE a good point, do they?

Don't need a point. As I stated, I was thinking of hitting him upside the head with the flat of the blade. Not the edge or point.

Is that anything like a second hand sword Bev?:D

Oh so helpful, you are.

Actually, yes, a second hand sword would be perfect. One that no one cares about getting slimey Dickless germs on it.

I've got a nice double-edged "King Arthur" type sword, you could use.

Conversely, I have a nice rusty scimitar, maybe give him tetanus with it. ;)

The scimi would be PERFECT! :D

You are better off with a longquan sword. I have one and they are great. It is a small staff that pulls into two daggars. Easily concealed and it fits back together to look like a staff.

Nah. I had a reason for looking for a big sword. I have a quarter staff, a "walking stick", a few daggers and other sharp pointies. Including the pretty sword I bought at MegaCon. :D

~Bev

[JTPencils]

Jim's a zine/small press publisher of no small repute. He's a publishing empire all his own.

He's got a Yahoo group that Olney dumped back in December when all his inactions were exposed; he re-joined a couple weeks ago, then re-quit, then re-re-joined, then re-re-quit last week.

No-one wuvs him enough there, I guess.

Jim posts here under 'blackhawk' something-or-other. He had the winning bid on Scott's Fred Flintstone sketch.

Thanks Doc. I thought I had seen good things mentioned about Jim somewhere in the thread. I just couldn't remember what it was. And he's doubly good in my book if he's aware of (and has dealt with) you know who in the past. I'm not familiar with what Jim's produced... other then the Yahoo group, can someone direct me to what he's published? I'd like to get an idea of the style and form of work that he puts out! Thanks all!

[JTPencils]

Jim,

Rock Ilney? Don't give him any ideas. ;)

Best,

Samuel

My bad Sam... no love for Rock Ilney!

[JamesRitcheyIII]

"It is a deep pool in our family tree."


It is a shallow writer who mixes his metaphors.

Plus, that jack-ass didn't have a an illustrious family tree, 'til he appropriated mine, I guess. I detailed my own extensive genealogical research, tracing my own lineage back to the Stewarts, DeVeres and most of all--the De Greenes (any Genealogist's jaw would drop--I'm related to every European Monarchy--traceable for the last 1500 years) on the MMC forum, back a couple years ago. No mention of his, back then. I'm descended from Kings and King-Killing Freemasons. If I included the Laurence Gardner (Royal Genealogist for the House of Stewart) books as dead-on factual, I could trace my family to King David.


I've got a couple of characters who are reincarnated from Arthur and Merlin (with apologies to Matt Wagner and Mike W. Barr), and have read everything, so I'd sure be interested in any discussion in this direction.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

And the countdown begins on when the first round of RO as Solomon Grundy photoshop things pop up. ;)

TIME!

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w259/psychotronic01/solney.jpg

With apologies to Adam Koford. This is the way his fine image looked before my fouling of it: http://www.adamkoford.com/solomongrundy.jpg

[Linkara]

Actually there isn't A LOT of difference between the two...

[JTPencils]

Actually there isn't A LOT of difference between the two...

Except the "real" Grundy doesn't get all red faced and blotchy after a few minutes of a good tussle. "fake" Grundy would've needed a nap after just hoisting up that hunk of wood!

[Samuel Catalino]

TIME!

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w259/psychotronic01/solney.jpg

With apologies to Adam Koford. This is the way his fine image looked before my fouling of it: http://www.adamkoford.com/solomongrundy.jpg

J. Morgan,

Somehow, Solomon Grundy even looks more frightening.

Best,

Samuel

[Inkpot1965]

Shouldn't that be Magnus Grundy?

[KevinTBrown]

Good point.

Anyone got a big 2 handed sword I can borrow? :D

~Bev

Why yes, yes I do.....

Looks remarkably similar to this:

http://www.grace-collection.com/images/SD901055-BK_Celtic_Sword.JPG

Except mine is brass and not chrome on the handle.

[Papergirl]

Why yes, yes I do.....

Looks remarkably similar to this:

http://www.grace-collection.com/images/SD901055-BK_Celtic_Sword.JPG

Except mine is brass and not chrome on the handle.
NICE!

I really should take a picture of mine soon. And the dagger I bought at MegaCon, as well. :)

[DaveRothe]

J. Morgan,

Somehow, Solomon Grundy even looks more frightening.

Best,

Samuel

I think Grundy has better hair.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Cockroach strikes again:

Danny, did you know that you're breaking more rules and conditions? Only this time it is having to do with MySpace. Here... read:



Proprietary Rights in Content on MySpace.com.

1. MySpace.com does not claim any ownership rights in the text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, musical works, works of authorship, or any other materials (collectively, "Content") that you post to the MySpace Services. After posting your Content to the MySpace Services, you continue to retain all ownership rights in such Content, and you continue to have the right to use your Content in any way you choose. By displaying or publishing ("posting") any Content on or through the MySpace Services, you hereby grant to MySpace.com a limited license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce, and distribute such Content solely on and through the MySpace Services.

Without this license, MySpace.com would be unable to provide the MySpace Services. For example, without the right to modify Member Content, MySpace.com would not be able to digitally compress music files that Members submit or otherwise format Content to satisfy technical requirements, and without the right to publicly perform Member Content, MySpace.com could not allow Users to listen to music posted by Members. The license you grant to MySpace.com is non-exclusive (meaning you are free to license your Content to anyone else in addition to MySpace.com), fully-paid and royalty-free (meaning that MySpace.com is not required to pay you for the use on the MySpace Services of the Content that you post), sublicensable (so that MySpace.com is able to use its affiliates and subcontractors such as Internet content delivery networks to provide the MySpace Services), and worldwide (because the Internet and the MySpace Services are global in reach). This license will terminate at the time you remove your Content from the MySpace Services. The license does not grant MySpace.com the right to sell your Content, nor does the license grant MySpace.com the right to distribute your Content outside of the MySpace Services.

2. You represent and warrant that: (i) you own the Content posted by you on or through the MySpace Services or otherwise have the right to grant the license set forth in this section, and (ii) the posting of your Content on or through the MySpace Services does not violate the privacy rights, publicity rights, copyrights, contract rights or any other rights of any person. You agree to pay for all royalties, fees, and any other monies owing any person by reason of any Content posted by you to or through the MySpace Services.

3. The MySpace Services contain Content of MySpace.com ("MySpace.com Content"). MySpace.com Content is protected by copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret and other laws, and MySpace.com owns and retains all rights in the MySpace.com Content and the MySpace Services. MySpace.com hereby grants you a limited, revocable, nonsublicensable license to reproduce and display the MySpace.com Content (excluding any software code) solely for your personal use in connection with viewing the MySpace Website and using the MySpace Services.


4. The MySpace Services contain Content of Users and other MySpace.com licensors. Except for Content posted by you, you may not copy, modify, translate, publish, broadcast, transmit, distribute, perform, display, or sell any Content appearing on or through the MySpace Services.

Umm... yeah. By reproducing my blog posts there on CBR (you and whomever) have violated the terms of your having and using the MySpace Services extended to you.

Guess what, Olney? I am reposting your stuff. I am also making PDF's of everything you say.
Donovan wasn't contacted by McDonalds. Nor was I.

You are a whiny piece of shit deadbeat loser that claims the name Rick Owe-Ney....the most fitting thing you have done to date. That was from your whining to CafePress.

You want to protect what you write on your pathetic blog that we only read to mock you? Make it private.

Otherwise, shut up and prepare to lose more court cases. I am going to laugh when I see you go to jail, Rick Olney. A butterball like you will get LOTS of love. Move to Texas...maybe you can hook up in Benny's cell.

You coming to CAPE? Another chance for you to avoid me like the plague, you cowardly sack of garbage.


Oh, so everyone can see what he wrote in it's entirety...

Sunday, March 11, 2007


Beware the little people that have NO lives... (1)
Category: Life

So the JAM was a hit! Fantastic!

Is this an indicator?

Like I always said, "Stick to lettering, Dave!" You'll each need to get inside the door at the June MMC in order to see my line of complimentary t-shirts to be handed out for free! Joe Zierman looks to have nothing to do. Joe, do you need a job!? The revolving door is always open to you at TightLip Entertainment.

Yes, folks... more titilating moves by those individual's calling themselves "Olney's Orphans" ... but better thought of and critiqued as, "Peanut's Gallery of Liars".

Danny Donovan is a LIAR.
I know this because he states the following in his #20051 posthere :

Very true. BUT he SAID he did. Which is probably what I should have said.

"Rick told me he called McDonald's lawyers on me for the Happy Meal shirt. nothing came of it."

Although I would have signed an NDA when Tom (or was it Mac?) who came back with "You know I live right up the road from McDonald's corporate headquarters and I lunch with the legal team every so often I'll have to ask them next time I see them."

Well, honestly -- I did contact the McDonald's Corporation to inform them that Donovan's ORIGINAL image looked like this:

And they responded to Danny Donovan too! Because shortly thereafter, his image was altered.
Danny Donovan really hasn't caught on that on THIS side of the legal ongoings -- we're really just getting started.

Danny, did you know that you're breaking more rules and conditions? Only this time it is having to do with MySpace. Here... read:

(ALREADY POSTED UP TOP)


Umm... yeah. By reproducing my blog posts there on CBR (you and whomever) have violated the terms of your having and using the MySpace Services extended to you.

More on this as MySpace.com deems fit. Can you say -->
Currently listening :
Stupid People Are Everywhere
By AL KATZ

4:19 PM - 0 Comments - 0 Kudos - Add Comment

Guess what? NO ONE believes you own ANY of the songs you claim to be listening to. Do you look up titles that match your posts instead of paying your bills? You couldn't be more sad of a person if you were the type to take money from kids with cancer...oh wait. You are.

Do the world a favor and next bus you see, step in front of it.

Cockroach.

[Matt Doc Martin]

And furthermore, how can you afford to give away free t-shirts when you cannot even pay your bills now?

When I get done, you won't have any guests or a venue. You fucked with me and mine once too many, cockroach. You will get no peace as long as I live. I will share YOUR words and YOUR ACTIONS with anyone I can get in contact with. I will enlist friends to help.

You can't stop the signal.



YOU LOSE, cockroach!

[Blake Petit]

You can't stop the signal.

I love when Matt uses Firefly/Serenity terms to drive the point home. :D

[Matt Doc Martin]

I love when Matt uses Firefly/Serenity terms to drive the point home. :D

No power in the 'verse can stop me now.

[Papergirl]

I will enlist friends to help.

You know I'm in! :D

~Bev

[Magneto_X]

Except the "real" Grundy doesn't get all red faced and blotchy after a few minutes of a good tussle. "fake" Grundy would've needed a nap after just hoisting up that hunk of wood!

The real Grundy is also more intelligent and actually does stuff.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

J. Morgan,

Somehow, Solomon Grundy even looks more frightening.

Best,

Samuel

Heh, sorry. I suppose I should have warned people about that. :)

Thanks for the comments everyone.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Move to Texas...maybe you can hook up in Benny's cell.



We don't want him, Matt. However, we do have a rather severe penal system, so....maybe...

[DaveRothe]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Olney, liar and all around douchebag
Danny, did you know that you're breaking more rules and conditions? Only this time it is having to do with MySpace. Here... read:



Proprietary Rights in Content on MySpace.com.

1. MySpace.com does not claim any ownership rights in the text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, musical works, works of authorship, or any other materials (collectively, "Content") that you post to the MySpace Services. After posting your Content to the MySpace Services, you continue to retain all ownership rights in such Content, and you continue to have the right to use your Content in any way you choose. By displaying or publishing ("posting") any Content on or through the MySpace Services, you hereby grant to MySpace.com a limited license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce, and distribute such Content solely on and through the MySpace Services.

Without this license, MySpace.com would be unable to provide the MySpace Services. For example, without the right to modify Member Content, MySpace.com would not be able to digitally compress music files that Members submit or otherwise format Content to satisfy technical requirements, and without the right to publicly perform Member Content, MySpace.com could not allow Users to listen to music posted by Members. The license you grant to MySpace.com is non-exclusive (meaning you are free to license your Content to anyone else in addition to MySpace.com), fully-paid and royalty-free (meaning that MySpace.com is not required to pay you for the use on the MySpace Services of the Content that you post), sublicensable (so that MySpace.com is able to use its affiliates and subcontractors such as Internet content delivery networks to provide the MySpace Services), and worldwide (because the Internet and the MySpace Services are global in reach). This license will terminate at the time you remove your Content from the MySpace Services. The license does not grant MySpace.com the right to sell your Content, nor does the license grant MySpace.com the right to distribute your Content outside of the MySpace Services.

2. You represent and warrant that: (i) you own the Content posted by you on or through the MySpace Services or otherwise have the right to grant the license set forth in this section, and (ii) the posting of your Content on or through the MySpace Services does not violate the privacy rights, publicity rights, copyrights, contract rights or any other rights of any person. You agree to pay for all royalties, fees, and any other monies owing any person by reason of any Content posted by you to or through the MySpace Services.

3. The MySpace Services contain Content of MySpace.com ("MySpace.com Content"). MySpace.com Content is protected by copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret and other laws, and MySpace.com owns and retains all rights in the MySpace.com Content and the MySpace Services. MySpace.com hereby grants you a limited, revocable, nonsublicensable license to reproduce and display the MySpace.com Content (excluding any software code) solely for your personal use in connection with viewing the MySpace Website and using the MySpace Services.


4. The MySpace Services contain Content of Users and other MySpace.com licensors. Except for Content posted by you, you may not copy, modify, translate, publish, broadcast, transmit, distribute, perform, display, or sell any Content appearing on or through the MySpace Services.

Umm... yeah. By reproducing my blog posts there on CBR (you and whomever) have violated the terms of your having and using the MySpace Services extended to you.

Um, Rick you NEVER said stick to the lettering. I've gotten as far as I have cause I actually produce finished books. Howbout you?

[THEDOC]

Because MSPaint is my friend.... ;)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/Galactus.png

Ah, doing things like this when I have work to do.. THAT'S the mark of "genius".

*sigh*

Great job Danny.
No we're all on his short list! ;-)

[Linkara]

Galactus is on his short list, too. ^_~

That reminds me, have we unbanned him yet or are we still enjoying our Olney-free life?

[Blake Petit]

And so is Galactus!

[CutterMike]

Quoting Olney, quoting MaSpace Ts & Cs(*whew!*):

"2. You represent and warrant that: (i) you own the Content posted by you on or through the MySpace Services or otherwise have the right to grant the license set forth in this section, and (ii) the posting of your Content on or through the MySpace Services does not violate the privacy rights, publicity rights, copyrights, contract rights or any other rights of any person. You agree to pay for all royalties, fees, and any other monies owing any person by reason of any Content posted by you to or through the MySpace Services."


...Right after posting both Joe's original cartoon and Danny's colorized version...

Danny?

Joe"

Does one of you wish to do the honors...?

[THEDOC]

Thanks Sam!

Yeah, I couldn't color around the signature without it looking rather jagged. ;)

But yeah! Joe did an awesome job on it! I just messed it up with my finger paints. ;)

He was inspired he did it during The Jam. Great Guy!

[JTPencils]

Is it just me, or is does anyone else agree that the 'short list' is soon going to be of novel proportions?

[Danny Donovan]

*gasp* I pause the action for ONE little video game break, and what happens? I get name checked!

Well are the REAL facts Rick.

1.) The McDonald's thing is a bunch of bullshit. I whipped up a crappy design in MSPaint for the sole purpose of showing the artists something I was thinking of. Do you honestly believe someone would create something meant for the consumption of others using the lowest rung possible?

Hells no. It was never meant to be the final design. I explained my concept, some people didn't understand what I was going for (due to the fact I didn't explain properly I guess) so I made something to show them what I was talking about. I used a real shirt design via zazzle so everyone could see the placement, and what was to be on the back of it.

Alice got what I was going for and did a PROFESSIONAL (a word you know nothing about) design for me in photoshop. And hence it got changed from my jaggedy thing to a much smoother design.

I was never contacted by anyone at McDonald's legal. The law does not work solely for you. In fact, it would be WELL under my rights to use that image if it was not a crappy one, should I have chose to under the parody laws.

Much in the same way as my aforementioned statement of the t-shirt that used the "I'm lovin' it" catch phrase humorously turned to "I only like it as a friend"

Point 2. Personally I believe you're misreading what the Terms of Service are... because you're actively posting copyrighted material in your myspace without the expressed permission of the people you are ganking from. Unless I hear something from Tom, I'm going to have to call bullshit on that. Sorry.

Point 3. Calling my liar is not going to win you any awards. I deal straight with my creative teams. I never promise funds when I can't afford them. And I never treat them like shit when they ask me for what I promised them.

I am completely sick of this bullshit. ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY.

Pay what you owe. Stop with the dumbass posturing. I'm working in my chosen field. As is Joe, Doc, etc. We don't need to make up conventions, or any such thing for attention.

I told you this once before when we were on polite terms, IF YOU WOULD JUST LEAVE THE BULLSHIT ALONE AND ACTUALLY DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU WILL YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THESE PROBLEMS. But no.

everyone is "a troll" or "a stalker" You are not that important. Who are you? a fanboy with delusions of standing. A sad little king of a sad little hill.

All we want is our due. That's it. We don't want blood, we don't want something impossible to obtain. Pay me my money, Pay Tim, Ronee, JT, Jeff, etc theirs. that's all.

Then go play with your little clubs. We'll go back to working on a national stage and you can read about us on newsarama or CBR if you're ever allowed on those sites after all is said and done.

[DaveRothe]

Isn't his short list getting a bit long? Might be time to rename it something like... let's see... the LONG list?:)

[rummblestrips]

The only short list Rick has is the number of people who actually like and trust him. I'm sure I can count those on one hand.. with several fingers severed.

[Danny Donovan]

The only short list Rick has is the number of people who actually like and trust him. I'm sure I can count those on one hand.. with several fingers severed.

Getting shorter everyday......

;)

You know I am really annoyed. I know that's the purpose of these little "attacks" but being someone who lives very above board in all their dealings being called a liar is something that bothers me.

Of course I suppose it's like dealing with Bizarro in a way isn't it?

[Blake Petit]

Except that ultimately, Bizarro's logic is understandable if you try hard enough.

[THEDOC]

Cockroach strikes again:



Guess what, Olney? I am reposting your stuff. I am also making PDF's of everything you say.
Donovan wasn't contacted by McDonalds. Nor was I.

You are a whiny piece of shit deadbeat loser that claims the name Rick Owe-Ney....the most fitting thing you have done to date. That was from your whining to CafePress.

You want to protect what you write on your pathetic blog that we only read to mock you? Make it private.

Otherwise, shut up and prepare to lose more court cases. I am going to laugh when I see you go to jail, Rick Olney. A butterball like you will get LOTS of love. Move to Texas...maybe you can hook up in Benny's cell.

You coming to CAPE? Another chance for you to avoid me like the plague, you cowardly sack of garbage.


Oh, so everyone can see what he wrote in it's entirety...



Guess what? NO ONE believes you own ANY of the songs you claim to be listening to. Do you look up titles that match your posts instead of paying your bills? You couldn't be more sad of a person if you were the type to take money from kids with cancer...oh wait. You are.

Do the world a favor and next bus you see, step in front of it.

Cockroach.

Well he had it right The Jam was a hit. Maybe when he gets his head out of his ass, Wally can show how to put on a productive show without cheating his guests. Believe me everyone at The Jam knows about Rick and his shenanigans and will help Unscrewed however they can. Matt you have IF watching your back.

[Danny Donovan]

Matt,

You can search for songs by typing in key words. You search for what Myspace has catalogued.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/pwned.png

see?

You type in the search engien then just click the thingie that says post it on the blog.

Although to be honest he IS right about something. I have been spending more time posting here instead of doing things I *need* to be doing. I still need to get that write-up I promised JT ages ago.

just all this *gah*