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Matt Doc Martin
03-08-2007, 07:02 PM
SPEAKING Of Rick's blogs.


Ah a reference to Colleen....


Ah and an ambigious threat to people wildly more talented than him. While cluttering the internet tubes with more memes.

I saw these (and PDF'ed them) earlier.

I wonder if his messy desk hides his checkbook?

And his court summons?

And his lawyer info?

bluecove
03-08-2007, 07:06 PM
Taking bets now...who thinks bluecove is an Olney sockpuppet?

I hope that's a joke. I can't tell with you people.

Karl J Barnes
03-08-2007, 07:10 PM
SPEAKING Of Rick's blogs.




Ah a reference to Colleen....



Ah and an ambigious threat to people wildly more talented than him. While cluttering the internet tubes with more memes.

I took the Dante's test for laughs and gigles and here's what I got:Your fate has been decided....
You are one of the lucky ones! Because of your virtue and beliefs, you have escaped eternal punishment. You are sent to the First Level of Hell - Limbo!
First Level of Hell - Limbo

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Charon ushers you across the river Acheron, and you find yourself upon the brink of grief's abysmal valley. You are in Limbo, a place of sorrow without torment. You encounter a seven-walled castle, and within those walls you find rolling fresh meadows illuminated by the light of reason, whereabout many shades dwell. These are the virtuous pagans, the great philosophers and authors, unbaptised children, and others unfit to enter the kingdom of heaven. You share company with Caesar, Homer, Virgil, Socrates, and Aristotle. There is no punishment here, and the atmosphere is peaceful, yet sad.

Some of the questions were pretty weird, but if I have to spend eternity, then Limbo seems to be a pretty cool place to hang out.

Perry Holley
03-08-2007, 07:11 PM
Taking bets now...who thinks bluecove is an Olney sockpuppet?IP numbers don't match.

Kurt Busiek
03-08-2007, 07:14 PM
Andrea was a simple 13 year old comic book reader that joined ORCA and went onto to not only write some 'dandy' columns (back in 1995-96) touching on topics like female characters sportin' basketball sized breasts to her thoughts on life as a 13 year old female comic book reader. See... back then, females with opinions didn't get as much opportunity to voice their opinions as easily as today. Without Andrea, somebody like Johanna Draper Carlson could've ended up deaf and dumb... er.

Yes, good gosh, without Andrea's OKRA columns back in 1995-96, Johanna would never have been able to be writing about comics for years prior to that -- and been a staffer at DC in the mid-Nineties as well! Hooray for Andrea, retroactively leading the way!

I'm sure Andrea's a fine person, but claiming her as a pioneer female voice in the mid-Nineties is moronic.

And of course, it's not Andrea making the claims -- it's Olney, who apparently assumes that just because he's only just encountered Johanna's blog, she must be new.

Try the names Heidi MacDonald, Marilyn Bethke, Carol Kalish and Margaret O'Connell -- and Maggie Thompson before even them -- if you want names of those who pioneered comics criticism by women. That means, of course, going back twenty years before Olney saw Andrea Main's columns. Over thirty for Maggie...

kdb

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 07:14 PM
Said I'd never post again, but... I just had a trojan attack my computer (thank goodness for virus protection), and the last place I went was the orcafresh myspace blog. Don't know for sure that's where the trojan came from, but to be on the safe side I thought I'd warn everyone.
Upstate NY, blue? What part? I'm originally from Schenectady, so I know upstate pretty well. :)

~Bev

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 07:15 PM
I hope that's a joke. I can't tell with you people.
Having dealt with Deadbeat's crap for the past few months, I think you can forgive some of us if we get a little jumpy. ;)

~Bev

Matt Doc Martin
03-08-2007, 07:16 PM
I hope that's a joke. I can't tell with you people.

We are wacky like that.

Sarah Beach
03-08-2007, 07:17 PM
Meh, I took the Hell test a couple of years ago for a lark. Don't remember where I ended up -- because, you know, those things are not for serious (though I can't say that I'm surprised Olney rated high on lust -- eweeeee.)

Regarding the messy desk = high intelligence thing..... I think he's reading that wrong.

He seems to be taking it to mean that if you have a messy desk, you therefore are going to be highly intelligent.

The reality is that the studies and implications are otherwise -- If you are highly intelligent the chances are you will have a cluttered desk.

It does NOT mean that everyone with a cluttered desk is highly intelligent.

But then, what would the peanut know about how logic (with premises and conclusions) functions? Pfft.

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 07:17 PM
Try the names Heidi MacDonald, Marilyn Bethke, Carol Kalish and Margaret O'Connell, if you want names of those who pioneered comics criticism by women. That means, of course, going back twenty years before Olney saw Andrea Main's columns...

kdb

Don't forget Jo Duffy!

Paul Smith
03-08-2007, 07:18 PM
Audrey Hepburn once almost walked smack into me.


Kurt Busiek is a big mean cheater!

Audrey Hepburn? How the hell are we supposed to compete with that? Who's going to care that I shook the hand of BB King? Audrey Hepburn? That's like using an atom bomb on a mosquito. Geez, dude, give us mortals a chance.

Audrey Hepburn ... mumble mumble mumble. I say Kurt Busiek poops his pants.

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 07:18 PM
IP numbers don't match.
Mohawk isn't THAT far from Rochester, Perry. However, unless he or she does something to make me think otherwise, I'm going to say this isn't Olney.

~Bev

wishlish
03-08-2007, 07:19 PM
SPEAKING Of Rick's blogs.




Ah a reference to Colleen....



Ah and an ambigious threat to people wildly more talented than him. While cluttering the internet tubes with more memes.

But...but Colleen has written posts about how much pride she takes in organizing her office. I remember her posting practical, low-cost shelving methods, for example.

Colleen is an anti-Olney. Every time I've met her at a convention, she convinces me I must buy something (last time, it was a lovely print of her Orbiter cover). Whenever I run into Olney, I want to buy bug spray.

By the way, we need an "I'm on OLNEY'S SHORT LIST" banner gif.

willtupper
03-08-2007, 07:20 PM
I have a question! I have a question! I have a question!

:throws hand in the air. waves it around like he just don't care:

Has RO ever actually published any comic books? Has there ever been a book - a physical thing with ink on paper and probably bound via staples - that has been put into the world via his various stinky endeavors?

If there hasn't been, I think that makes it all the more funny.

Kurt Busiek
03-08-2007, 07:20 PM
Don't forget Jo Duffy!

Jo wrote letters to the lettercols -- did she do any comics criticism beyond that? As far as I saw, she went from the lettercols to a staff job at Marvel, but I coulda missed something.

kdb

Sarah Beach
03-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Yes, good gosh, without Andrea's OKRA columns back in 1995-96, Johanna would never have been able to be writing about comics for years prior to that -- and been a staffer at DC in the mid-Nineties as well! Hooray for Andrea, retroactively leading the way!

I'm sure Andrea's a fine person, but claiming her as a pioneer female voice in the mid-Nineties is moronic.

And of course, it's not Andrea making the claims -- it's Olney, who apparently assumes that just because he's only just encountered Johanna's blog, she must be new.

Try the names Heidi MacDonald, Marilyn Bethke, Carol Kalish and Margaret O'Connell, if you want names of those who pioneered comics criticism by women. That means, of course, going back twenty years before Olney saw Andrea Main's columns...

kdb

Ah yes, the other thing I meant to comment on!

Exactly. And... where were these columns published, because I can't say that I'm familiar with them. But there are other names of women who might be better known for comics criticism. Oh, you know.... like certain letter-hacks with lots and lots of letters published in DC letter columns in the period 1995-2001. You know, like.......... ME!!:evilsmile

Blake Petit
03-08-2007, 07:23 PM
I have a question! I have a question! I have a question!

:throws hand in the air. waves it around like he just don't care:

Has RO ever actually published any comic books? Has there ever been a book - a physical thing with ink on paper and probably bound via staples - that has been put into the world via his various stinky endeavors?

If there hasn't been, I think that makes it all the more funny.

Negatory, good buddy. No such product exists.

Matt Doc Martin
03-08-2007, 07:25 PM
I'm goin' down I'm gonna burn...:evilsmile

The Dante's Inferno Test has banished you to the Fifth Level of Hell!

Here is how you matched up against all the levels:
Level | Score
Purgatory | Very Low Repenting Believers
Level 1 - Limbo | Very Low Virtuous Non-Believers
Level 2 | Very High Lustful
Level 3 | Moderate Gluttonous
Level 4 | Moderate Prodigal and Avaricious
Level 5 | Very High Wrathful and Gloomy
Level 6 - The City of Dis | Very High Heretics
Level 7 | High Violent
Level 8- the Malebolge | Low Fraudulent, Malicious, Panderers
Level 9 - Cocytus | Low Treacherous


Apparently killing a man just to watch him die is frowned on.

bluecove
03-08-2007, 07:26 PM
Mohawk isn't THAT far from Rochester, Perry. However, unless he or she does something to make me think otherwise, I'm going to say this isn't Olney.

~Bev

Gee, thanks.

I am from Rochester -- suburb of Chili, to be exact. And I am female. I can't see Olney pretending to be one of those, can you?

I'm trying not to take offense at every little thing (since it's been pointed out that I'm too sensitive), but it's not much fun being called a sockpuppet. At least Gail and Darren were nice, which I appreciate.

Now you see why I say I don't belong here?

Karl J Barnes
03-08-2007, 07:27 PM
I'm goin' down I'm gonna burn...:evilsmile

The Dante's Inferno Test has banished you to the Fifth Level of Hell!

Here is how you matched up against all the levels:
Level | Score
Purgatory | Very Low Repenting Believers
Level 1 - Limbo | Very Low Virtuous Non-Believers
Level 2 | Very High Lustful
Level 3 | Moderate Gluttonous
Level 4 | Moderate Prodigal and Avaricious
Level 5 | Very High Wrathful and Gloomy
Level 6 - The City of Dis | Very High Heretics
Level 7 | High Violent
Level 8- the Malebolge | Low Fraudulent, Malicious, Panderers
Level 9 - Cocytus | Low Treacherous


Apparently killing a man just to watch him die is frowned on.

Unless, you are the Man In Black, Johnny Cash.

Matt Doc Martin
03-08-2007, 07:28 PM
Gee, thanks.

I am from Rochester -- suburb of Chili, to be exact. And I am female. I can't see Olney pretending to be one of those, can you?

I'm trying not to take offense at every little thing (since it's been pointed out that I'm too sensitive), but it's not much fun being called a sockpuppet. At least Gail and Darren were nice, which I appreciate.

Now you see why I say I don't belong here?

Oh, bloody hell.
I apologize for thinking that someone from upstate NY could be a sockpuppet of olney.

Are you 12?

Blake Petit
03-08-2007, 07:29 PM
Gee, thanks.

I am from Rochester -- suburb of Chili, to be exact. And I am female. I can't see Olney pretending to be one of those, can you?

If he thought he could get away with it... yeah.

I'm not saying that you're a sock puppet, mind you --- I've got no reason to think so and I'm the sort to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

I'm just saying, I wouldn't put it past him.

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 07:34 PM
Jo wrote letters to the lettercols -- did she do any comics criticism beyond that? As far as I saw, she went from the lettercols to a staff job at Marvel, but I coulda missed something.

kdb


No, but she did do some essays on breaking into comics and woman in comics type of things. But she was very high profile staffer in the 80s, although sadly most notably used as a model for one of the marvel swimsuit issues.

I seem to remember her contributing to the the old WizSchool thing on the old wizard AOL keyword site in the mid 90s... I might be off though.

wishlish
03-08-2007, 07:35 PM
Bluecove's deleted half her posts already.

Just sayin'.

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Gee, thanks.

I am from Rochester -- suburb of Chili, to be exact. And I am female. I can't see Olney pretending to be one of those, can you?

I'm trying not to take offense at every little thing (since it's been pointed out that I'm too sensitive), but it's not much fun being called a sockpuppet. At least Gail and Darren were nice, which I appreciate.

Now you see why I say I don't belong here?
Wow. I post a NICE post prior to that one, and yet somehow I'm still being offensive? Even AFTER I said I didn't believe you were Olney?

As I explained above in my OTHER post directed to YOU, I think some of the people here have kinda earned the right to be skeptical. And I DID say he OR she, as it's hard to tell by your user name here.

Granted, it ISN'T fun to be called a sock puppet. Especially not for Olney. However, after the past few months, can you really blame people for being jumpy?

As for whether or not you belong here, that's kinda up to you. If you're going to deliberately go looking for things to be offended at, then no, you probably don't. The people here tend to say what they think. If that idea offends you, then perhaps this isn't the place for you. However, if you can accept that not everyone is always going to just agree with everything you say, then welcome. Pull up a chair and get comfy. There's doughnuts on the counter and fresh coffee in the pot. We have an amazingly great group of people here, if you'd care to take the time to get to know us and NOT pass judgement.

~Bev

Matt Doc Martin
03-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Bluecove's deleted half her posts already.

Just sayin'.

But...but..she didn't threaten anyone or call anyone sick names....

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 07:38 PM
Bluecove's deleted half her posts already.

Just sayin'.
She can delete anything she wants. So far, every one of her posts has been quoted, so it does her no good at all.

If anything, that convinces me that she's NOT Olney. Even he was smart enough to realize deleting posts won't work when they've been quoted.

~Bev

AIPman1
03-08-2007, 07:41 PM
just to rub it in Olney's face: I just got this back from the printers:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/images/stories/DSP-MVA-2.jpg

Anyone want a copy?

CLICK HERE! (http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,954/category_id,29/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,149/)

Starting work on #3...

TomStillwell
03-08-2007, 07:43 PM
Hm…my office looks like all of these things, with different zones showing extreme organization, minor clutter, and friendly family photos. My clutter increases or decreases depending on my workload, but nowadays, I schedule time to deal with clutter every single day, so it doesn't get out of hand. "Messy desk owners typically, for example, have separate piles for urgent, less-urgent, and non-urgent documents."

Doesn't one need to work in order to have a workload?

I can guess what's in the variety of prioritized stacks.

Urgent: All ORCA records for the last 15 years just in case someone claims a bad ORCA experience and needs a comeuppance.

Less-Urgent: A to-do list for MMC 2005.

Non-Urgent: Unpaid bills, letters of apology, application for English Comp 101 at Herkimer County Community College.

Gail Simone
03-08-2007, 07:48 PM
Gee, thanks.

I am from Rochester -- suburb of Chili, to be exact. And I am female. I can't see Olney pretending to be one of those, can you?

I'm trying not to take offense at every little thing (since it's been pointed out that I'm too sensitive), but it's not much fun being called a sockpuppet. At least Gail and Darren were nice, which I appreciate.

Now you see why I say I don't belong here?


Sweetie, honestly, please relax.

No one's trying to be mean. It's simply the low post count and proximity to Rick that people were suspicious of, and frankly, until we learn otherwise, you're most welcome to post here.

And creepier weirdos than Rick have posted as females before...with Rick's problems with women, I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of his famous sock puppets were ostensibly women.

Rick's a terrible writer though, there's no way he could keep up a convincing character for long. He simply doesn't have the talent.

Relax, have fun, everything is fine.


Gail

Gail Simone
03-08-2007, 07:50 PM
just to rub it in Olney's face: I just got this back from the printers:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/images/stories/DSP-MVA-2.jpg

Anyone want a copy?

CLICK HERE! (http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,954/category_id,29/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,149/)

Starting work on #3...


CONGRATULATIONS!

Gail

bluecove
03-08-2007, 07:52 PM
Wow. I post a NICE post prior to that one, and yet somehow I'm still being offensive? Even AFTER I said I didn't believe you were Olney?

As I explained above in my OTHER post directed to YOU, I think some of the people here have kinda earned the right to be skeptical. And I DID say he OR she, as it's hard to tell by your user name here.

Granted, it ISN'T fun to be called a sock puppet. Especially not for Olney. However, after the past few months, can you really blame people for being jumpy?

As for whether or not you belong here, that's kinda up to you. If you're going to deliberately go looking for things to be offended at, then no, you probably don't. The people here tend to say what they think. If that idea offends you, then perhaps this isn't the place for you. However, if you can accept that not everyone is always going to just agree with everything you say, then welcome. Pull up a chair and get comfy. There's doughnuts on the counter and fresh coffee in the pot. We have an amazingly great group of people here, if you'd care to take the time to get to know us and NOT pass judgement.

~Bev

I'm sorry, Bev. That didn't come out the way I intended, and I had no reason to be nasty to you.

Look, it's obvious I'm in too fragile a state of mind lately to take the rough-and-tumble, I'm-not-really-insulting-you atmosphere that rules here. I only posted to let people know that it was possible there was a trojan lurking somewhere on Olney's blog. Being called a sockpuppet hurt. It probably shouldn't have, but it did -- so, I lashed out. Again, I'm sorry.

The post-deleting was ill-advised, but as I told Gail in a PM, I didn't think anyone would care. I certainly didn't think anyone would compare me with Himself.

This is my mess, and I've done what I can to clean it up; now, I'll go. Good luck to everyone who is working to bring Olney to justice.

colleen
03-08-2007, 07:58 PM
But...but Colleen has written posts about how much pride she takes in organizing her office. I remember her posting practical, low-cost shelving methods, for example.

Colleen is an anti-Olney. Every time I've met her at a convention, she convinces me I must buy something (last time, it was a lovely print of her Orbiter cover). Whenever I run into Olney, I want to buy bug spray.

By the way, we need an "I'm on OLNEY'S SHORT LIST" banner gif.

Wow, I just read that Olney thing. My jaw is on the floor.

Yes, I am neat. Years of living and self publishing from a 720 square foot condo made neatness a requirement. I eventually hired a personal organizer service to teach me how to properly clean and organize my home and office.

I cannot bear to work in a disordered environment. I have been known to go into other people's offices and clean them. I once waltzed into Steve Bennet's office and remained for the next two hours reorganizing and cleaning it. I had never even been in his office before. I was so overjoyed to see Scott Nybakken's beautifully ordered office at DC Comics that I just wanted to take pictures of it. I made friends visit and praised it lavishly.

I can tolerate (and appreciate) mild, interesting clutter, but I almost always clean and arrange my work environment before beginning my day. I have to have my tools about me where I can see them, and my work in a form where I can access it readily. There is to be no rummaging or running about after the job begins.

My desk usually has papers on it, but I never let them pile higher than about an inch.

I have one box of very old papers that needs to be filed, and a few boxes of reference (not a priority - I may just chuck it all one day).

My only serious problem with order is the art files. I do not have sufficient storage space and have never been able to get them properly arranged.

When I say clutter, it may mean something very different than when other people say clutter. I have a very low mess threshold.

I never make an issue of other people's homes, though. None of my business. But I may just waltz into your office and start running my finger on a shelf to see if there is dust on it.

It's like some kind of pathology.


None of this should come as any surprise to anyone who actually knows me.

Unlike Olney.


c

Reverend Smooth
03-08-2007, 07:58 PM
We're such wannabes that we just sent the penciller a chunk of money for more pages, uh huh. ZOMG, we actually pay our artists.

DungeonmasterJim
03-08-2007, 08:01 PM
Olney's blogs are a joke promoting his con while in the same breath bashing creators and former pro attendees. Yeah, I see other con organizers and publishers doing that ALL the time.

I guess Olney's never heard of the wisdom of 'no comment'.

DM Jim

Cam63
03-08-2007, 08:02 PM
I gave driving directions to Jamie Farr. And Audrey Hepburn once almost walked smack into me.

Plus, I rode in an elevator with Robert Redford, who had two large shopping bags full of cowboy boots with him.

kdb

Good ol' cowboy boot lovin' Bob.

Mark Blicharz
03-08-2007, 08:03 PM
We're such wannabes that we just sent the penciller a chunk of money for more pages, uh huh. ZOMG, we actually pay our artists.

And you call yourself professionals? Come on! You don't pay anyone until you're sued!

Reverend Smooth
03-08-2007, 08:05 PM
And you call yourself professionals? Come on! You don't pay anyone until you're sued!Right, right. Silly me!

Cam63
03-08-2007, 08:07 PM
Olney's blogs are a joke promoting his con while in the same breath bashing creators and former pro attendees. Yeah, I see other con organizers and publishers doing that ALL the time.

I guess Olney's never heard of the wisdom of 'no comment'.

DM Jim

He never got the hang of the " stop digging when you're in a deep hole " technique either.

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 08:07 PM
Wow, I just read that Olney thing. My jaw is on the floor.

I cannot bear to work in a disordered environment. I have been known to go into other people's offices and clean them. I once waltzed into Steve Bennet's office and remained for the next two hours reorganizing and cleaning it. I had never even been in his office before. I was so overjoyed to see Scott Nybakken's beautifully ordered office at DC Comics that I just wanted to take pictures of it. I made friends visit and praised it lavishly.


c

I'm actually the same way. A small business came into my area and brought me on to help them integrate into the area (because here in Olde Towne, it is rather "cliqueiish"..) This place was AWFULLY disorganized. I mean recipts all over the place, all their papers just hidden under other things..

The first oppertunity I was left alone while they ran errands I rearranged the whole office because it was driving me nuts.

I couldn't promote a business that was in that kind of dissaray.

But yeah. If someone has me come around and help them with something, or fix their computer, or something I will tend to straighten. It's a compulsion.

Also when I go into Barnes and Noble or somewhere and notice the comics/graphic novels are completely screwed up.

It's like OCD or something. >_<

Larime
03-08-2007, 08:08 PM
And you call yourself professionals? Come on! You don't pay anyone until you're sued!

See, Rick? This is how it works:

You PAY an artist. They give you art. You get published.

Fuck, I'm in a WHEELCHAIR and I can find a way to pay my artist. You're a grown man. Get a job and pay your people.

Gail Simone
03-08-2007, 08:08 PM
And you call yourself professionals? Come on! You don't pay anyone until you're sued!

I like your posts, Mark.

Gail

colleen
03-08-2007, 08:08 PM
No, but she did do some essays on breaking into comics and woman in comics type of things. But she was very high profile staffer in the 80s, although sadly most notably used as a model for one of the marvel swimsuit issues.

I seem to remember her contributing to the the old WizSchool thing on the old wizard AOL keyword site in the mid 90s... I might be off though.


Er...I think that was Anne Nocenti, the Marvel staff cutie, who once posed for Spiderwoman.

Gail Simone
03-08-2007, 08:08 PM
And you call yourself professionals? Come on! You don't pay anyone until you're sued!

I like your posts, Mark.

Gail

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 08:10 PM
Wow, I just read that Olney thing. My jaw is on the floor.

I cannot bear to work in a disordered environment. I have been known to go into other people's offices and clean them. I once waltzed into Steve Bennet's office and remained for the next two hours reorganizing and cleaning it. I had never even been in his office before. I was so overjoyed to see Scott Nybakken's beautifully ordered office at DC Comics that I just wanted to take pictures of it. I made friends visit and praised it lavishly.


c

I'm actually the same way. A small business came into my area and brought me on to help them integrate into the area (because here in Olde Towne, it is rather "cliqueiish"..) This place was AWFULLY disorganized. I mean recipts all over the place, all their papers just hidden under other things..

The first oppertunity I was left alone while they ran errands I rearranged the whole office because it was driving me nuts.

I couldn't promote a business that was in that kind of dissaray.

But yeah. If someone has me come around and help them with something, or fix their computer, or something I will tend to straighten. It's a compulsion.

Also when I go into Barnes and Noble or somewhere and notice the comics/graphic novels are completely screwed up.

It's like OCD or something. >_<

Also, I think Rick is getting that from the scene from Spider-man 1, where Osborn comes over for thanksgiving, sees Peter's room and comments "He's a bit of a slob isn't he?"

To which Aunt May defends "All brilliant men are."

As we all know Aunt May graduated with full psychology honors. :p

DocAbsurd
03-08-2007, 08:10 PM
Nono, stick around, Bluey. This ain't the only thread on Gail's YABS; take a look around and post elsewhere if you just wanna get your toes wet.

This is a monster thread and everyone is kinda on edge after Moby's last nuclear meltdown. Just remember how many of us have been threatened physically and legally, how many have been insulted and degraded, and how utterly demeaning he's been to the women . . .

It's just been a rough week and suspicions are a bit rampant. We'll get over it.

Mark Blicharz
03-08-2007, 08:11 PM
I like your posts, Mark.

Gail

Thanks, I like your comic books. :)

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Er...I think that was Anne Nocenti, the Marvel staff cutie, who once posed for Spiderwoman.

Are you sure? I remember a back cover ad containing a female editor in a bikini that read "If you think she's hot, and she's just the EDITOR"

or something to that effect.

Did Anne ever edit the swimsuit books?

I'll kneel to your knowledge, I'll have to root around and see if I can find that issue. I am thinking it was a Spidey book around '92....

colleen
03-08-2007, 08:14 PM
I'm actually the same way. A small business came into my area and brought me on to help them integrate into the area (because here in Olde Towne, it is rather "cliqueiish"..) This place was AWFULLY disorganized. I mean recipts all over the place, all their papers just hidden under other things..

The first oppertunity I was left alone while they ran errands I rearranged the whole office because it was driving me nuts.

I couldn't promote a business that was in that kind of dissaray.

But yeah. If someone has me come around and help them with something, or fix their computer, or something I will tend to straighten. It's a compulsion.

Also when I go into Barnes and Noble or somewhere and notice the comics/graphic novels are completely screwed up.

It's like OCD or something. >_<

Oh, God! I do the same thing! Wouldn't dream of doing this in someone's home, but in a work environment, I can't help myself.

Whenever I was on a killer deadline, the dishes might go, the kitchen might go, the bathroom might need a scrub, but by golly, the office was tidy.

Eventually, when I made enough money, I indulged in a maid service once in awhile, but I never let them near the work stuff.

If I am on a really tight schedule now, family members will cook and clean for me so I can concentrate on work. Still, the only person who touches anything in my work area is me. I even built and moved most of the furniture, though my parents helped me with the initial move to this house.

My next project is to raise money to build a small cottage to expand my studio space. I hope to have it entirely lined with bookshelves. It makes me giddy to think of it. Many of my books are stored in boxes in the well house, and I can't find them when I need them.


c

DarrenCawsey
03-08-2007, 08:17 PM
But yeah. If someone has me come around and help them with something, or fix their computer, or something I will tend to straighten. It's a compulsion.

Also when I go into Barnes and Noble or somewhere and notice the comics/graphic novels are completely screwed up.

It's like OCD or something. >_<

Hahaha.

I have spent hours in Real Groovy sorting and arranging all the DVD's & CD's, not to mention getting funny looks at my LCS for sorting out their back issues.

My gf tends to get embarrassed when I do it around her (like in the checkout aisles of supermarkets - all that confectionary just placed haphazardly, grrr), but it's not really intentional, I just find myself arranging things. It’s kind of zen and relaxing.


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Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 08:17 PM
just to rub it in Olney's face: I just got this back from the printers:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/images/stories/DSP-MVA-2.jpg

Anyone want a copy?

CLICK HERE! (http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,954/category_id,29/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,149/)

Starting work on #3...

Ooohh. THat looks.....mysterious.

Reverend Smooth
03-08-2007, 08:17 PM
You come off as someone who'd have her working environment together, Colleen.

He IS like that creepy lady somebody mentioned a while back, desperately trying to equate himself to, and create nonexistent relationships with, reputable comic creators.

Shudder.

An organised environment just feels better. The air is more crisp and energised. It smells better. It's just a healthier place in which to work and much more motivating.

colleen
03-08-2007, 08:18 PM
Are you sure? I remember a back cover ad containing a female editor in a bikini that read "If you think she's hot, and she's just the EDITOR"

or something to that effect.

Did Anne ever edit the swimsuit books?

I'll kneel to your knowledge, I'll have to root around and see if I can find that issue. I am thinking it was a Spidey book around '92....

Definitely not Jo Duffy. By 1992 she was in her 40's, I believe, and she was not a small woman.

In 1992, the only thing Duffy was doing at Marvel was Akira. About a year or so later, she did Catwoman.

It may have been Renee Whitterstatter. She was very slender and pretty, and was always stylishly dressed, as I recall. She was also an editor at Marvel in 1992. Jo Duffy had not been an editor at Marvel since 1987, and that was when she was out at Epic.

Blake Petit
03-08-2007, 08:19 PM
I, conversely, have a strict policy about my work environment: when I get so frustrated I shout out, "I KNOW it's on this desk SOMEWHERE!" it's time to clean. :-D

Mark Blicharz
03-08-2007, 08:20 PM
See, Rick? This is how it works:

You PAY an artist. They give you art. You get published.

Fuck, I'm in a WHEELCHAIR and I can find a way to pay my artist. You're a grown man. Get a job and pay your people.

No one would hire Rick, you have to pass a background check. I'd be surprised if he could get a job picking up trash on the side of the road. He's just wasting our oxygen by breathing.

CutterMike
03-08-2007, 08:20 PM
I'll see your Bronson and raise you an "I hugged Neil Gaiman once"

:p

I once carded the great comedian Marty Allen. (If you're not familiar with him, trust me - his face is unmistakable - but it was store policy to see an ID with EVERY credit card or check purchase!)

... I also carded Janet Jackson (repeatedly).

NEXT...!

willtupper
03-08-2007, 08:21 PM
THANK YOU, BLAKE! For answering my question whether or not RO had ever actually published ANYTHING IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE, EVER.

To me, you see, that makes it all so much more funny.

Because in punk rock (which is where I suppose my true roots are), we believe in DIY. That means, "do-it-yourself." Not, "don't do anything and blame the fact that nothing gets done on EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD besides the person who the true blame belongs to, which is you."

The fact that he's put out nothing, not one single thing, is truly giggle-worthy to me.

I mean, deep down (and don't confuse this with sympathy, it's just speculation) I think Rick would have been SO MUCH HAPPIER, had he just put some little fold-and-staple, stapler, ink, and paper comics together on his own, and then sold them (or more likely, gave them away) to friends (?) and family (Mrs. Olney?), and maybe gotten them on put on consignment at his local comic shop (if he was still allowed in there).

Mini-comics, IMHO, are a perfectly viable and vibrant part of "the hobby and business" of publishing. I LOVE seeing how many there are, especially when I go to killer stores like Green Brain comics in Dearborn.

And - get this - who KNOWS how far those little do-it-yourself projects can go, or what they can ultimately lead to? For example, I'm not sure how many people know it, but before Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird (co-creators of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) put out their first reptillian issue, they used their "living room business" (Mirage Studios. Get it?) to publish two issues of a comic book they dubbed, "Gobbledygook."

See here?

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/gobbledygook84/01/01.htm

and...

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/gobbledygook84/02/cover.jpg

And maybe it's just me, but I find these uber-humble beginnings to be just insanely empowering. Sure, they only had print-runs of 150. Yeah, probably no one outside their closest friends and folks in the local comic book community ever saw the things. But you know what?

I'm certain that Peter and Kevin learned any number of essential lessons by putting out those two fold-and-staple endeavors. And I'd be willing to wager that had they NOT learned the lessons they got from doing that, the Turtles - the comics, as well as the multi-bazillion dollar empire that grew out of them - never would have happened.

The moral of this story, maybe, is this: start small. Gail, I think, is another great example. How she just wrote for herself and some friends, starting sending it around. And look what happened? Same principle, similiar incredible results :).

Negatory, good buddy. No such product exists.

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 08:22 PM
I'm sorry, Bev. That didn't come out the way I intended, and I had no reason to be nasty to you.

Look, it's obvious I'm in too fragile a state of mind lately to take the rough-and-tumble, I'm-not-really-insulting-you atmosphere that rules here. I only posted to let people know that it was possible there was a trojan lurking somewhere on Olney's blog. Being called a sockpuppet hurt. It probably shouldn't have, but it did -- so, I lashed out. Again, I'm sorry.

No worries. I, too, apologize for jumping on you in my last post.

As for the possible trojan, it could well be due to an ad that runs on myspace. It might be worthwhile to send them an e-mail about it. But, I doubt Olney is smart enough to put one on his page deliberately. Thanks for the warning, though. It reinforces the need to keep anti-virus programs properly updated at all times! And, it's definitely something to watch for.

The post-deleting was ill-advised, but as I told Gail in a PM, I didn't think anyone would care. I certainly didn't think anyone would compare me with Himself.

Ouch. Sorry about that. This time, it was MY turn to get testy and let my mouth (or, in this particular medium, my fingers) run ahead of my brain.

This is my mess, and I've done what I can to clean it up; now, I'll go. Good luck to everyone who is working to bring Olney to justice.

I do hope you'll come back when you're feeling better! We really DO have a terrific, caring group of people here. Even if we don't always show it. I'm just sorry we got off on the wrong foot with each other.

~Bev

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 08:22 PM
Just for the record. I'm not a woman.:D

Kurt Busiek
03-08-2007, 08:25 PM
But she was very high profile staffer in the 80s, although sadly most notably used as a model for one of the marvel swimsuit issues.

Jo Duffy? A swimsuit model? I think you're thinking of someone else, Danny -- maybe Dawn Geiger?

Jo was an assistant editor in the late Seventies and early Eighties, working with Al Milgrom and Denny O'Neil, before she switched over to Epic; I think she left staff in 1986 or 1987, well before they did any swimsuit issues.

She's probably most notably known for her work on POWER MAN/IRON FIST, WOLVERINE, FALLEN ANGELS, CATWOMAN and AKIRA.

kdb

KevinTBrown
03-08-2007, 08:25 PM
Can you unblock Olney for a short time so we can have some "fresh" (orcafresh?) material and to ridicule, er..... talk to him a bit more???





:evilsmile

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 08:26 PM
Just for the record. I'm not a woman.:D
I NEVER would have guessed... :p

~Bev

willtupper
03-08-2007, 08:28 PM
Just for the record, I'm not either.

But I bet I'd look simply smashing in a dress :D.

Just for the record. I'm not a woman.:D

KevinTBrown
03-08-2007, 08:28 PM
Just for the record. I'm not a woman.:D

He just plays one on the weekend.



:D

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 08:28 PM
I NEVER would have guessed... :p

~Bev

See? SEE!!! I just had to squash that rumor before it continued any further.:D

colleen
03-08-2007, 08:31 PM
Just for the record, I'm not either.

But I bet I'd look simply smashing in a dress :D.

Maybe YOU were the Marvel Swimsuit Model!~

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 08:32 PM
He just plays one on the weekend.



:D

Shhhhhhhhhhh Kevin! Y'know us letterers don't make that much!

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 08:32 PM
See? SEE!!! I just had to squash that rumor before it continued any further.:D
Well, if you hadn't let THOSE photos get out and spread alllllllllll over the internet...

:evilsmile

~Bev

Kurt Busiek
03-08-2007, 08:35 PM
Are you sure? I remember a back cover ad containing a female editor in a bikini that read "If you think she's hot, and she's just the EDITOR"

That wouldn't have been Jo or Anne Nocenti.

kdb

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 08:35 PM
Just for the record. I'm not a woman.:D

How do we REALLY know that, Dave?

KevinTBrown
03-08-2007, 08:39 PM
Shhhhhhhhhhh Kevin! Y'know us letterers don't make that much!

That's why you got the cheap wig....


http://icapeople.epfl.ch/giordano/ken.jpeg


:p

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 08:41 PM
Well, if you hadn't let THOSE photos get out and spread alllllllllll over the internet...

:evilsmile

~Bev

I'm still trying to get the rights back to the video that got out!

DocAbsurd
03-08-2007, 08:42 PM
I'm in the process of reorganizing not only my studio, but the entire house. We had so much clutter left over from our sudden move 2 years ago (April 1st, as a matter of fact), coupled with the tons of junk the ex refused to take with her (I'll write an anniversary blog about that), I just gathered what I could and dragged it with us.

Every week since Waldenbooks closed, I've been rearranging, sorting, filing, and then just throwing away the superfluous. When I put away the Christmas decorations this year, I dumped a bunch of old lights I hadn't used in years.

I'm still doing a bunch of filing in the studio; finally got an extra shelf from the bedroom, so I'm using that for my comic book reference. I've got a set of file organizers on the top, but I'm not happy with its positioning, and I've still got a good chunk of books to bring out.

After every single assignment, I have to do a general cleaning in the studio: dust the desk, vacuum the floor, file drawings, clean the toys. It's like a way of cleaning my mind for the next project.

colleen
03-08-2007, 08:42 PM
That wouldn't have been Jo or Anne Nocenti.

kdb

I think Geiger was a designer in the 1980's, but as I recall, Anne was gone as a Marvel editor by the 1990's as well. So, no go. But I distinctly remember her posing in the Spiderwoman costume. She looked great, too.


c

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 08:49 PM
How do we REALLY know that, Dave?

Cause I leave the toilet seat up? Hell hath no fury like a woman who just fell in.:o

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 08:52 PM
That's why you got the cheap wig....


http://icapeople.epfl.ch/giordano/ken.jpeg


:p

You know how MUCH a good wig cost these days? I mean er, um that's what my woman friend tells me.

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 08:54 PM
Cause I leave the toilet seat up? Hell hath no fury like a woman who just fell in.:o

A nightlite can save a lot of grief there, Dave.

Blake Petit
03-08-2007, 08:55 PM
Am I a woman?

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/151/comphistblakeyellpi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Long answer... the ugliest woman you've ever met.

Short answer... no.

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 08:55 PM
That's why you got the cheap wig....


http://icapeople.epfl.ch/giordano/ken.jpeg


:p

Dagnabbit! Curse you double posting gremlins!!!

CutterMike
03-08-2007, 08:57 PM
I hope that's a joke. I can't tell with you people.

Don't worry, bc - you can spell and write coherent sentences, so it looks to me like you fail the primary tests for Olneyhood.

Excuse me: "Olneyship".

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 08:58 PM
A nightlite can save a lot of grief there, Dave.

Sure NOW he tells me!!!

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 08:58 PM
Definitely not Jo Duffy. By 1992 she was in her 40's, I believe, and she was not a small woman.

In 1992, the only thing Duffy was doing at Marvel was Akira. About a year or so later, she did Catwoman.

It may have been Renee Whitterstatter. She was very slender and pretty, and was always stylishly dressed, as I recall. She was also an editor at Marvel in 1992. Jo Duffy had not been an editor at Marvel since 1987, and that was when she was out at Epic.

Ah! thanks for the clarification. I dunno. Perhaps over the years I just got her name lumped in with Marvel editors since she had a few of those "bullpen profiles" when I was a kid, but your description fits the woman I was thinking of more accurately. She was clearly in her late 20s and had I wanna say red hair.. but might have been blonde.

All those years I thought it was Jo. Hmm! thanks for fixing that for me! lol. It's funny I think I was 12 when I saw the ad and even then I thought it was sexist (I was a weird kid.. wait, I still am.)

Oh, God! I do the same thing! Wouldn't dream of doing this in someone's home, but in a work environment, I can't help myself.

My next project is to raise money to build a small cottage to expand my studio space. I hope to have it entirely lined with bookshelves. It makes me giddy to think of it. Many of my books are stored in boxes in the well house, and I can't find them when I need them.


c

Good to know I'm in the good company! ;) Yeah I'd never rearrange someone's home (unless they asked me to, or if it were family I have always cleaned up after my little brother because he could never keep his stuff straight.) But yeah, offices... totally have to organize. I remember the weird look the owners had when they came in and they were like

"Where are all the papers?"

"filed them."

"We were only gone like an hour and a half"

"what can I say? It was REALLY bugging me."

Jo Duffy? A swimsuit model? I think you're thinking of someone else, Danny -- maybe Dawn Geiger?

Jo was an assistant editor in the late Seventies and early Eighties, working with Al Milgrom and Denny O'Neil, before she switched over to Epic; I think she left staff in 1986 or 1987, well before they did any swimsuit issues.

She's probably most notably known for her work on POWER MAN/IRON FIST, WOLVERINE, FALLEN ANGELS, CATWOMAN and AKIRA.

kdb

Yep! I think I was thinking of someone else but for some reason "Jo Duffy" stuck in my head. Probably because of my friend Joselle (Jo, or joey depending on how annoying I am..) is a lovely editor and I sort glommed onto the other female Jo in comics. :p

I apologize for the mistake! *hangs head in shame* Of course I was totally off the bounds of the discussion... I thought we were talking about early female creators/editors/etc in general. Not just the columnists and news editors etc.

;)

Blake Petit
03-08-2007, 08:59 PM
Olneytude?

willtupper
03-08-2007, 09:00 PM
I'm going to go watch The Daily Show and Colbert Report combo-pack. But I just wanted to be the first to say CONGRATULATIONS! to all involved (but not you, Rick Olney) for getting this - the thread of all threads - up to 20,000 posts!

Is that a record in comic book online discussion history? Ladies and Gentlemen (and Rick Olney), I say to you - it should be! :D

generaljackcosmo
03-08-2007, 09:02 PM
Just to let you guys know, I challenged Rick Olney to a fight at WW Chicago 2007. My hopes (a pipe dream, to be sure) were that we might throw down in one of the IFL rings...maybe raise a little cash for a nice charity like the Hero Initiative...I mean, Rick is a tough-guy former Marine, right?

Check out the blog at my myspace for his reply:

www.myspace.com/generaljackcosmo

for such a tough guy, he seems like a real crybaby bitch.

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 09:03 PM
Olneytude?

Translates to Shitty attitude.

THEDOC
03-08-2007, 09:05 PM
I can honestly say, without the slightest hint of doubt, that I have only been this utterly disgusted with a single individual once before in my life, and that was with my ex after Thing 1 finally admitted she was abusing him and his sister.

The day I took Thing 1 down to the police station to have him file a report against his mother, the devotion I felt to her changed instantly from love to utter contempt. The more I talked my case over with real living, breathing attorneys, the more I discovered about her past. And the more I realized I had been fooled into caring for her. She has a record deep within the social services system, one I only discovered after 10 years of marriage.

She, too, treated everything like a game. Her insults, her negligence, her various affairs, it was all fun and games. And when it came time for court, it was just part of the play, another scene in a sick, twisted little drama.

Even when she was arrested and hauled off in handcuffs, it wasn't a serious matter. She showed complete disregard for the divorce proceedings, right down to refusing to appear until the judge was forced to order a warrant for her arrest if she didn't bother making the time in her busy 'schedule'.

She drank frequently, coming home with the trunk loaded with empties; the bedroom was 'decorated' with bottles of vodka. She did drugs with her friends at work; I found a pipe and a bag of weed stashed in bedroom where the things could easily have stumbled upon them. She stopped bathing. She became a glutton.

She hit the Things. Not the usual spanking, mind you; she struck Thing 1 till his nose bled; she left welts on Thing 2's bottom when she wouldn't sit in the tub. And worse. And more than once.

And all while I was out working to pay the utilities late at night, after I had finished my duties with the Things and meals and household chores and such.

I won't bother mentioning what I went through. Suffice to say, at the very end and for the next year, I felt a strange cross between betrayal and guilt.

That's exactly what I'm going through again.

I trusted Olney. I confided in him with a lot of the personal stuff I said above. I sided with him in the split between the MMC and the SPA. I believed all the shit he spewed against Ian and Gail and Danny and Chuck and Tony and every creator on the TLE drivel and, well, just about anyone who 'turned against' him. He had me convinced he was my last chance at seeing publication again.

And that he was doing it all as a 'friend'.

This was nothing short of gruesome. He didn't simply show his true face; he bared his ugly soul. In the 3 months this thread has been gaining momentum, Rick Olney has proven himself to be the sickest of (and I shudder to use the term) human beings. I never thought I'd again see a day that someone would be so capable of fooling so many for so long. If I hadn't read so many of his incomprehensible emails and posts before, I'd never believe this really was him.

I'm finally at a loss for words . . .


I feel for you brother. Brighter days are ahead for you and the Things. See ya all next year at Jam 2.

CutterMike
03-08-2007, 09:05 PM
SPEAKING Of Rick's blogs.

"According to some researchers, a messy desk may be the sign of an active and intelligent mind."

... A-a-a-a-and sometimes it just means that you're a slob...

"Sometimes, a cigar is justa cigar." -- Sigmund Freud

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 09:05 PM
Just to let you guys know, I challenged Rick Olney to a fight at WW Chicago 2007. My hopes (a pipe dream, to be sure) were that we might throw down in one of the IFL rings...maybe raise a little cash for a nice charity like the Hero Initiative...I mean, Rick is a tough-guy former Marine, right?

Check out the blog at my myspace for his reply:

www.myspace.com/generaljackcosmo

for such a tough guy, he seems like a real crybaby bitch.
Kmeyers tried to get him to agree to a similar idea earlier in the thread. Of course, Deadbeat Dick refused.

~Bev

Kurt Busiek
03-08-2007, 09:08 PM
I think Geiger was a designer in the 1980's, but as I recall, Anne was gone as a Marvel editor by the 1990's as well. So, no go. But I distinctly remember her posing in the Spiderwoman costume. She looked great, too.

There is a SPIDER-WOMAN photo-cover from when Ann was writing the book, but that's not Ann in the costume -- she did pose as Tigra, though:

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/2461/400/2461_4_50.jpg

I remember her as being too short to make a convincing Spider-Woman. Of course, she may have just stood next to Shooter a lot, which would make anyone look short.

This is Ann, for those who haven't met her:

http://dreamers.com/karetos/a/anocenti.jpg

Ann left staff around 1988, so she wouldn't have edited any swimsuit specials either. She was still writing for Marvel by the time the first of them were published, though. I think.

kdb

Blake Petit
03-08-2007, 09:09 PM
Translates to Shitty attitude.

Yeah, I know -- I meant that as a suggestion.

THEDOC
03-08-2007, 09:10 PM
Just to let you guys know, I challenged Rick Olney to a fight at WW Chicago 2007. My hopes (a pipe dream, to be sure) were that we might throw down in one of the IFL rings...maybe raise a little cash for a nice charity like the Hero Initiative...I mean, Rick is a tough-guy former Marine, right?

Check out the blog at my myspace for his reply:

www.myspace.com/generaljackcosmo

for such a tough guy, he seems like a real crybaby bitch.

I will be at that show. Man I would love for Rick to show up. Matt Feazell could do teh fight illos. Sent you a message through your myspace, General.

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 09:11 PM
Hey! Look at that! A picture to feed your greasy little imaginations!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORComx/18.jpg

Recognize anybody?

CURSES!!! Olney may have foiled us with his great genius yet again! "Recognize anybody?" he asks. The answer should have been "No they're all in camoflauge so I can't see them." Please keep the groans to a minimum. Thank you. I'll be here all weekend. Try the veal.

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 09:12 PM
CURSES!!! Olney may have foiled us with his great genius yet again! "Recognize anybody?" he asks. The answer should have been "No they're all in camoflauge so I can't see them." Please keep the groans to a minimum. Thank you. I'll be here all weekend. Try the veal.

I'm telling you, Rick painted the sign. In gratitude the guys posed for a picture.

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 09:14 PM
I'm telling you, Rick painted the sign. In gratitude the guys posed for a picture.

Yeah actually it was supposed to read "3rd Force Ya Reckon?" but he even misspelled that!;)

THEDOC
03-08-2007, 09:17 PM
CONGRATULATIONS!

Gail

wrong quote

Cam63
03-08-2007, 09:19 PM
I accidentally almost killed Christopher Walken once.

(Seriously.)

JLK
an accident, I swear

How is it you are alive to type this post ?

Were you reincarnated ?

Cam63
03-08-2007, 09:23 PM
I gave Johnny Cash fashion tips!

I helped him get rid of the body of the guy he shot in Reno.

THEDOC
03-08-2007, 09:24 PM
just to rub it in Olney's face: I just got this back from the printers:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/images/stories/DSP-MVA-2.jpg

Anyone want a copy?

CLICK HERE! (http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,954/category_id,29/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,149/)

Starting work on #3...

Ordered mine, Ian, wish I had some to sell at The Jam. Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kurt Busiek
03-08-2007, 09:27 PM
Of course I was totally off the bounds of the discussion... I thought we were talking about early female creators/editors/etc in general. Not just the columnists and news editors etc.

Nah, if you're talking early female creators and editors, you're talking Marie Severin, Dorothy Woolfolk, Tarpe Mills and others, going back to the Forties and Fifties (and doubtless earlier).

kdb

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 09:28 PM
Just to let you guys know, I challenged Rick Olney to a fight at WW Chicago 2007. My hopes (a pipe dream, to be sure) were that we might throw down in one of the IFL rings...maybe raise a little cash for a nice charity like the Hero Initiative...I mean, Rick is a tough-guy former Marine, right?

Check out the blog at my myspace for his reply:

www.myspace.com/generaljackcosmo

for such a tough guy, he seems like a real crybaby bitch.

I missed the General? Durn I was gonna tell him how much I liked the lettering in his book too.:(

TonyIsabella
03-08-2007, 09:31 PM
I celebrated and I napped and I popped back in to catch up.

One of the "highlights" of the evening was channel-surfing with Kelly and her good friend Giselle, who is kind of like a second daughter to Barb and I. While Kelly did her homework, we all watched something called "Next" on MTV. Twas an amazingly mind-numbing show and we had lots of fun with it.

I'll try to top Kurt's story:

It was 1976. I was in New York during my mercifully brief six months as a DC Comics "story editor." For some reason, I was out of the office much of that particular day, running errands in and around Rockefeller Center.

You need to know Neil Simon's The Odd Couple is one of my favorite plays, ever since we did it in high school. I was stage manager and understudy for all the male roles. It's also one of my favorite movies with Jack Lemmon as Felix Unger and Walter Matthau as Oscar Madison. If you've seen and love the movie half as much as I do, you'll be tickled by the punch line of this story of mine.

I ran into Matthau at a hot-dog stand. I loved New York hot-dog stands. One of the few things I miss about the city.

He had time to kill before some meeting. I told him how much I liked his work and the movie in particular. We chatted for maybe 10-15 minutes about this and that. He even asked me what I did for a living. He didn't know what DC was until I mentioned Superman. It was a cool New York moment.

About two hours later, we bump into each other again. We smile. He calls me "Superman." We chat for another moment. Another cool moment.

About an hour after that, we bump into each other again. He looks at me, smiles, and says, "You again? What is this...the curse of the cat people?!"

(Which is, of course, one of the funniest lines in The Odd Couple.)

Back to you, Kurt.

Tony

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 09:32 PM
Gee, thanks.

I am from Rochester -- suburb of Chili, to be exact. And I am female. I can't see Olney pretending to be one of those, can you?

I'm trying not to take offense at every little thing (since it's been pointed out that I'm too sensitive), but it's not much fun being called a sockpuppet. At least Gail and Darren were nice, which I appreciate.

Now you see why I say I don't belong here?

Welcome Blue. I find it amusing that anything that's outside of NYC, is considered "upstate". I mean, NY is a pretty large state, and yet, if you're not in that ONE section, you're "upstate". People in Albany aren't mid-state, they're "upstate". Funny (but I find a lot of strange things amusing). I once dated a young lady from Champlain NY, now THAT is upstate, without a doubt! When your back yard is the Canadian border, then you really are upstate.

Besides... I get tired of NYC thinking it's the center of the blessed universe. I've been there... hell I've been to a thousand places... and I've found MUCH better then NYC. But then again, I'm not exactly a "city type". Give me some space between me and my neighbors!

As for Olney pretending to be a female... I doubt it. But he HAS tried to pretend to be slew of other things... publisher, employer, inspiration for a toy figure, human.

Cam63
03-08-2007, 09:42 PM
He's so hawt.

By Olney logic me and Papergirl are now sisters. :D

By Olney logic I shouldn't be paying for my beer and the bar staff have no right to question that right.

...Oh and they actually owe me money.

Joshua Pantalleresco
03-08-2007, 09:42 PM
So wait, he's comparing himself to Colleen Doran?

I suppose if you took away the talent, drive, charm, graciousness, published books, good looks, practical knowledge of the law, popularity, and about three dozen other things...

...lmao...unbelievable.

JP

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 09:43 PM
I once carded the great comedian Marty Allen. (If you're not familiar with him, trust me - his face is unmistakable - but it was store policy to see an ID with EVERY credit card or check purchase!)

... I also carded Janet Jackson (repeatedly).

NEXT...!

Mike, you missed your chance. With Janet, you shouldn't have carded her...just asked her to flash you a breast, and you coulda said "Yep, that's you alright! I'd recognize that wardrobe malfunction anywhere!"...

colleen
03-08-2007, 09:44 PM
There is a SPIDER-WOMAN photo-cover from when Ann was writing the book, but that's not Ann in the costume -- she did pose as Tigra, though:

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/2461/400/2461_4_50.jpg

I remember her as being too short to make a convincing Spider-Woman. Of course, she may have just stood next to Shooter a lot, which would make anyone look short.

This is Ann, for those who haven't met her:

http://dreamers.com/karetos/a/anocenti.jpg

Ann left staff around 1988, so she wouldn't have edited any swimsuit specials either. She was still writing for Marvel by the time the first of them were published, though. I think.

kdb


WOW! I could have sworn that was Anne! She was so adorable and had a great figure.

Nice person, too.

I completely forgot about Tigra!

c

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 09:45 PM
Just for the record. I'm not a woman.:D

And yet Dave, you dance divinely.

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 09:50 PM
After every single assignment, I have to do a general cleaning in the studio: dust the desk, vacuum the floor, file drawings, clean the toys. It's like a way of cleaning my mind for the next project.

I was informed by the Mrs that I BETTER do a cleaning of my studio... or she was going to turn it into a walk in closet...

I decided she was right... and cleaned up the joint.

http://jgmcomics.com/jt/WetIncStudios%20Studio.jpg

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 09:50 PM
And yet Dave, you dance divinely.

Is that anything like how Doc A and Dickie are gonna dance? Just curious...

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 09:53 PM
JT, you sure you want us to know what your inner sanctum looks like? When we see news stories about some guy dressed as Batman......

Mark Blicharz
03-08-2007, 09:57 PM
I'd also like to offer my congratulations on the book getting printed! Let me know when it's released and I'll be sure to pick up a few copies. :)

Cam63
03-08-2007, 09:58 PM
And he got busted. That's why he ran like a weasel.

You guys really need to stop insulting the cute little furry weasels of the world like this.:D

Yeah ! SK can't restrain herself forever, you know.

colleen
03-08-2007, 09:59 PM
You showed me yours, I'll show you mine!

Here's an online article with some pictures of my studio. I rearranged a bit after my 20 year-old beloved cat Sawyer died this summer (about 3 weeks after these pictures were taken), but it looks pretty much as you see it here.

Seek and ye shall not find an arena of rampant disorder.

http://www.thefifthbranch.com/gorilladaze/?p=49

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:04 PM
JT, you sure you want us to know what your inner sanctum looks like? When we see news stories about some guy dressed as Batman......

Ahhhhhhhh, I don't care. I live in such a hidden area of my state, most people think we're a witness relocation town anyhow.

As for dressing up as Batman... well.... I have to admit I did that once, handed out a bunch of comics (donated so generously by my LCS) to kids a our local Children's Hospital (and NO, unlike Olney, I kept NONE for myself). The kids were all wide eyed and asking where the Batmobile was parked at. I never got the chance to do it again, but the staff said the children all loved it, and even the older ones (13 and up) were following me around the halls of the hospital asking "Batman" related questions. It was a fun afternoon... but man that cowl is HOT. How Bruce fights without sweat getting in his eyes amazes me!

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 10:06 PM
You showed me yours, I'll show you mine!

Here's an online article with some pictures of my studio. I rearranged a bit after my 20 year-old beloved cat Sawyer died this summer (about 3 weeks after these pictures were taken), but it looks pretty much as you see it here.

Seek and ye shall not find an arena of rampant disorder.

http://www.thefifthbranch.com/gorilladaze/?p=49

That's just too pretty. I couldn't get any work done. My space has to look lived in. And it does.

colleen
03-08-2007, 10:09 PM
That's just too pretty. I couldn't get any work done. My space has to look lived in. And it does.

That's funny, because to me my studio looks pretty cluttered.

And I miss my kitty.


c

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:10 PM
You showed me yours, I'll show you mine!

Here's an online article with some pictures of my studio. I rearranged a bit after my 20 year-old beloved cat Sawyer died this summer (about 3 weeks after these pictures were taken), but it looks pretty much as you see it here.

Seek and ye shall not find an arena of rampant disorder.

http://www.thefifthbranch.com/gorilladaze/?p=49

Thanks for sharing that Colleen. Wish I had THAT much space myself.

Instead I have to use that old dresser (thanks folks for keeping it for 30 years to give to me) to file my pages! The lightbox comes out only when it's needed (not enough space to dedicate anywhere). The library is kept to a minimum (just the art books I need, and DVD's to listen to (I rarely watch) when I'm working late into the night.

The one thing I need to put into the place, is a dedicated coffee machine!

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 10:11 PM
JT! Rick would never approve of that office! It's got far too many collectibles in it.

Although isn't it funny, how a meltdown ago, Rick was decrying Sam for having a messy bedroom, whereas Rick is saying him living in filth is a measure of his brilliance.

But just so JT doesn't feel left out, my little bedroom/office set up..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03175.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03176.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03177.jpg

^_^; So neat...

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:13 PM
That's funny, because to me my studio looks pretty cluttered.

And I miss my kitty.


c

I can relate to the kitty thing Colleen. I have a cat that was left at an apartment I moved into (abandoned), and the landlords said they'd leave the rent low if I took him in and cared for him. That was over 9 years ago... and I love the lug. He's getting on in years now, and when he's gone, he'll be sorely missed. He loves to sit at my feet when I'm working, napping along. Occasionally looking up at me with a small mewl as if to say "You done with that thing YET?". He's an editor in feline form!

I'm sorry to hear you lost your friend. They become almost like family.

colleen
03-08-2007, 10:14 PM
That's a fun-looking place, and even though you have a lot of stuff in it, you can tell it is all in order. Those toys are in such militaristic order they could defend Sparta.

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 10:14 PM
That's funny, because to me my studio looks pretty cluttered.

And I miss my kitty.


c

Colleen! That's beautiful! I love the shelves! I wish I could get something like that. I need to do something with these built in things above the TV, that were here when I moved in... Perhaps when I can afford something decent to change it up.

In 3 months it'll all look different. :p I fung shui far too much for my own good.

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 10:17 PM
That's a fun-looking place, and even though you have a lot of stuff in it, you can tell it is all in order. Those toys are in such militaristic order they could defend Sparta.

lol. Yes! Thank you!

They keep an eye on me on the off times I *do* actually sleep. :p

Take that Sam Rami! your boogeyman won't get me! lol.

colleen
03-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Colleen! That's beautiful! I love the shelves! I wish I could get something like that. I need to do something with these built in things above the TV, that were here when I moved in... Perhaps when I can afford something decent to change it up.

In 3 months it'll all look different. :p I fung shui far too much for my own good.


Try looking up MAP CHEST at http://www.homedecorators.com


They come in a variety of sizes and finishes, they are very handsome AND they cost a hell of a lot less than artist flat files.

The drawback is that I have had trouble with one or two I have ordered. Sometimes the drawers were not cut evenly and had to be sanded down. Other than that, they look great and do the job. After sanding, no more problems.

c

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:19 PM
JT! Rick would never approve of that office! It's got far too many collectibles in it.

Actually, I've got more, but lack of space has forced me to put a ton of it into storage (read, large boxes tucked away in a closet... *sigh*). Though I've opened up wall space for more art (I just framed and put up a wonderful Jeff Austin piece that he did as a wedding present... it's kickass, I'll share when I can... thanks Reb), I'd like to get art from friends and put it all up. Surround myself with some really nice trinkets. (that's a hint folks! lol)

Thanks for sharing your space Danny (and Colleen)... I've always wondered what would happen if those "Trading Spaces" folks were ever asked to redesign a comics person's room. They'd probably just walk away shaking their head "Can't be done, there's no rhyme or reason to the place... "

Magneto_X
03-08-2007, 10:19 PM
Gonna take more then that Danny boy... first we have to get rid of all this Rap Crap... and the idea that "American Idol" is actually turning out the next big thing in the biz... and then the music scene will start to heal.

American Idol has its good points. They did give us Kelly Clarkson and Chris Daughtry. :D

Kelly Clarkson: Because Of You

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqj-n0IG1Ik

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 10:22 PM
That's funny, because to me my studio looks pretty cluttered.

And I miss my kitty.


c

Reminds me of historical homes where people go on tours. "Here's the study where Mrs. [fill in the blank] would sit and work on her children's books".

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 10:24 PM
Try looking up MAP CHEST at http://www.homedecorators.com


They come in a variety of sizes and finishes, they are very handsome AND they cost a hell of a lot less than artist flat files.

The drawback is that I have had trouble with one or two I have ordered. Sometimes the drawers were not cut evenly and had to be sanded down. Other than that, they look great and do the job. After sanding, no more problems.

c

Thanks again! I will look that place over and try to find something that works. ;)

<3 I'm also sorry to hear about your kitty. If you're ever in the 7 Cities again you're welcome to stop by and visit mine. I have 7 of 'em so there's always enough to go around (six of them are the hemmingway ones with the extra finger)

:p

colleen
03-08-2007, 10:25 PM
I can relate to the kitty thing Colleen. I have a cat that was left at an apartment I moved into (abandoned), and the landlords said they'd leave the rent low if I took him in and cared for him. That was over 9 years ago... and I love the lug. He's getting on in years now, and when he's gone, he'll be sorely missed. He loves to sit at my feet when I'm working, napping along. Occasionally looking up at me with a small mewl as if to say "You done with that thing YET?". He's an editor in feline form!

I'm sorry to hear you lost your friend. They become almost like family.
Oh boy, don't they just take over everything? The little furballs.

Just reading this has made me weepy. I miss my Sawyer every single day.

He loved this beautiful woodland stream we have here and delighted in drinking from the mountain water. His favorite spot was near a small pool and waterfall. So, I buried him near it. He hated cold weather and I just couldn't stand the idea of putting him in the cold ground, so my dad made him a coffin. Then I wrapped Sawyer up in his (my) favorite pashmina shawl, gave him some treats, family photos and rested his head on a silk pillow.

My mom poured a 400 pound concrete crypt for him. Then I planted a garden over it all.

The excess inspired my brother to declare that the burial befitted a mighty warrior. After which he reminded me that I should be grateful that we were living in the modern age, because in ancient days the servants would be buried with the warrior.

What a kidder.

colleen
03-08-2007, 10:26 PM
lol. Yes! Thank you!

They keep an eye on me on the off times I *do* actually sleep. :p

Take that Sam Rami! your boogeyman won't get me! lol.

THIS IS SPARTA!!!

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 10:26 PM
Actually, I've got more, but lack of space has forced me to put a ton of it into storage (read, large boxes tucked away in a closet... *sigh*). Though I've opened up wall space for more art (I just framed and put up a wonderful Jeff Austin piece that he did as a wedding present... it's kickass, I'll share when I can... thanks Reb), I'd like to get art from friends and put it all up. Surround myself with some really nice trinkets. (that's a hint folks! lol)

Thanks for sharing your space Danny (and Colleen)... I've always wondered what would happen if those "Trading Spaces" folks were ever asked to redesign a comics person's room. They'd probably just walk away shaking their head "Can't be done, there's no rhyme or reason to the place... "

You're welcome for the art [it was only a year late].
Trinkets? Geez, your JLA mug will go out to you when some deadbeats pay their bills [not just RO].

colleen
03-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Reminds me of historical homes where people go on tours. "Here's the study where Mrs. [fill in the blank] would sit and work on her children's books".


Thank you.

It is still too small. I can't paint in it. I have no proper ventilation.

I want to have a cottage built to hold most of my library. The first floor will be the painting studio.

I found these great prefab little barn houses I can afford. I can have local artisans add electricity and insulation, as well as a heat pump. I think I can bring it in under $25,000.

Of course, now I need to save $25,000.

But it will be great when I get it. It will be so cute. Like a doll house. Very comfy. I want to have a small kiln and woodworking workshop the whole family can use, too. Everybody loves making things.

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:31 PM
Oh boy, don't they just take over everything? The little furballs.

Just reading this has made me weepy. I miss my Sawyer every single day.

He loved this beautiful woodland stream we have here and delighted in drinking from the mountain water. His favorite spot was near a small pool and waterfall. So, I buried him near it. He hated cold weather and I just couldn't stand the idea of putting him in the cold ground, so my dad made him a coffin. Then I wrapped Sawyer up in his (my) favorite pashmina shawl, gave him some treats, family photos and rested his head on a silk pillow.

My mom poured a 400 pound concrete crypt for him. Then I planted a garden over it all.

The excess inspired my brother to declare that the burial befitted a mighty warrior. After which he reminded me that I should be grateful that we were living in the modern age, because in ancient days the servants would be buried with the warrior.

What a kidder.

That's sadly beautiful Colleen. You honor Sawyer with such a nice send off.

Strangely enough, if you get another friend, they'll never replace the one before, they have their own ways... and still wend their idiosyncrasies into your life.

I hope when my own little furball moves onward, that I can provide a nice place for him to rest as well. He's been too loving a pet and friend, to deserve any less.

(Jesus it's turning into a Hallmark commercial here!)

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 10:33 PM
THIS IS SPARTA!!!

You're gonna make me HAVE to get the inevitable McFarlene Toys version of the cast of 300 aren't you?

Just so I can have 300 Spartans fight Thanos.

SPAAAAAAAAAARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 10:35 PM
That's sadly beautiful Colleen. You honor Sawyer with such a nice send off.

Strangely enough, if you get another friend, they'll never replace the one before, they have their own ways... and still wend their idiosyncrasies into your life.

I hope when my own little furball moves onward, that I can provide a nice place for him to rest as well. He's been too loving a pet and friend, to deserve any less.

(Jesus it's turning into a Hallmark commercial here!)

JT, if/when I come up, you better hide the kitty. One mis-step at night on the way to the John and....

THAT killed the Hallmark moment, didn't it?

colleen
03-08-2007, 10:36 PM
That's sadly beautiful Colleen. You honor Sawyer with such a nice send off.

Strangely enough, if you get another friend, they'll never replace the one before, they have their own ways... and still wend their idiosyncrasies into your life.

I hope when my own little furball moves onward, that I can provide a nice place for him to rest as well. He's been too loving a pet and friend, to deserve any less.

(Jesus it's turning into a Hallmark commercial here!)

Oh, I have a cat named Huckleberry too, and I love him awfully, but he is a completely different critter than Sawyer was.

I hope you have as many great years with your kitty as I did with mine. They are family. You are so lucky to have a friend that sits at your feet when you draw. I just loved that.

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 10:37 PM
You're welcome for the art [it was only a year late].
Trinkets? Geez, your JLA mug will go out to you when some deadbeats pay their bills [not just RO].

Which deadbeats are those Jeff?:D

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:37 PM
You're welcome for the art [it was only a year late].
Trinkets? Geez, your JLA mug will go out to you when some deadbeats pay their bills [not just RO].

That's OK Reb, the Mrs and I treated it as an anniversary thing.

Oh I know the mug's on it's way (as well as the enormous care package you've hinted at)... I meant that I'd enjoy getting art from anyone of the awesome creator's here. Not that I'd be able to afford some of them!! Maybe I could ask Rick for his secret on how you get art, and then not pay for it... that'd up my collection right away!!!

Nah, I could never bring myself to be a scumbag like that. If I can afford it, I'll commission folks... if not, donations are welcome. LOL! So far, I've got Jeff's great piece, and an awesome Andy Smith "FirstMan" and the Superman/Lois piece we worked on. It's just nice to have artistic friends work surrounding me. I find it inspirational.

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 10:38 PM
Which deadbeats are those Jeff?:D

I'm not pissed enough to go public with their names just yet

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 10:39 PM
Thank you.

It is still too small. I can't paint in it. I have no proper ventilation.

I want to have a cottage built to hold most of my library. The first floor will be the painting studio.

I found these great prefab little barn houses I can afford. I can have local artisans add electricity and insulation, as well as a heat pump. I think I can bring it in under $25,000.

Of course, now I need to save $25,000.

But it will be great when I get it. It will be so cute. Like a doll house. Very comfy. I want to have a small kiln and woodworking workshop the whole family can use, too. Everybody loves making things.

That sounds neat! My friend Nat Jones (spawn artist) has this GIANT house in SC, He lives there with his girlfriend and had a couple of roomates Loki and his wife Paije, They had something similar going on there.

Paije had her own glass blowing studio, and Loki had a little tattoo workshop in a facility in the back. It just went on for miles and miles. (not litterally) but they had places they didn't even ever use. :p

I always thought that would be lovely. Personally if I ever got to the point where I had HUGE money, I'd buy the building I live in now, and after the other tennants moved out I'd turn it back into the 1 family victorian house it used to be before the city started chopping up these beautiful houses into apartments in the 1920s or so.

There's so much potential to the square footage here! plus it's across the street from the Elizabeth River!

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:39 PM
JT, if/when I come up, you better hide the kitty. One mis-step at night on the way to the John and....

THAT killed the Hallmark moment, didn't it?

Or at least killed the kitty! "If that kitty kat had nine lives, I'll be he just used all of 'em"

It's not a matter of "If" Reb, the Mrs is already planning your menu for your visit. We can't disappoint her bud!

TomStillwell
03-08-2007, 10:43 PM
JT! Rick would never approve of that office! It's got far too many collectibles in it.

Although isn't it funny, how a meltdown ago, Rick was decrying Sam for having a messy bedroom, whereas Rick is saying him living in filth is a measure of his brilliance.

But just so JT doesn't feel left out, my little bedroom/office set up..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03175.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03176.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03177.jpg

^_^; So neat...

Danny, I think you made a mistake and posted the wrong picture. That looks like the bedroom set from 40 Year Old Virgin.:p

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 10:46 PM
Or at least killed the kitty! "If that kitty kat had nine lives, I'll be he just used all of 'em"

It's not a matter of "If" Reb, the Mrs is already planning your menu for your visit. We can't disappoint her bud!

What would my redneck friends think if I journeyed above the Mason-Dixon? I'd have to burn my rebel flag.

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:47 PM
Oh, I have a cat named Huckleberry too, and I love him awfully, but he is a completely different critter than Sawyer was.

I hope you have as many great years with your kitty as I did with mine. They are family. You are so lucky to have a friend that sits at your feet when you draw. I just loved that.

Thanks Colleen. I'll keep Garfield around as long as I possibly can!

Strangely enough, he seems to think he's a dog! He actually comes when beckoned, and insists that when I get home from being on the road all week (the Mrs takes care of him in my absence) that I WILL pay attention to him. When he's sleeping at my feet, either he has to be contacting me in some fashion, whether curled up backwards against my feet, or resting his head on my foot (that's daring of him). So yeah, I feel lucky. Most cats just snub you and look at you like "what did YOU do to deserve attention?".

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal
03-08-2007, 10:48 PM
I was informed by the Mrs that I BETTER do a cleaning of my studio... or she was going to turn it into a walk in closet...

I decided she was right... and cleaned up the joint.

http://jgmcomics.com/jt/WetIncStudios%20Studio.jpg

Love your stuff man. Love that stand up of the Stooges. And I have that same exact classic Batman display....wait a minute...mine is GONE! CURSES!

Danny Donovan
03-08-2007, 10:48 PM
Danny, I think you made a mistake and posted the wrong picture. That looks like the bedroom set from 40 Year Old Virgin.:p

lol. Actually I watched that whole movie going "damn I used to have that.. Damn I used to have that."

I wondered what they did with those props. Those old Megos were cool.

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:54 PM
What would my redneck friends think if I journeyed above the Mason-Dixon? I'd have to burn my rebel flag.

Just tell 'em you're snooping on the Yankee enemy. They'll believe that easily enough.

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 10:55 PM
Love your stuff man. Love that stand up of the Stooges. And I have that same exact classic Batman display....wait a minute...mine is GONE! CURSES!

Thanks Morgan. As for the Batman display... hey, with the big money I made off of RO... you think I could afford to PAY for that! No way. BTW... change your locks, they were WAY too easy.

As to the Stooges... who doesn't love "the boys"?? They were a Christmas present from a past relationship, but the Mrs knows of my affinity for the Stooges (and not the girl), so she doesn't mind me having them on display.

Woo woo woo!

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 10:57 PM
Just tell 'em you're snooping on the Yankee enemy. They'll believe that easily enough.

I kin tell'im I'm doin' a little reckon-loitering?

DaveRothe
03-08-2007, 11:00 PM
I kin tell'im I'm doin' a little reckon-loitering?

And you can get Rick to paint the misspelled sign! Perfect!

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 11:00 PM
I kin tell'im I'm doin' a little reckon-loitering?

A-yup. That should satisfy their curiosity.

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 11:03 PM
A-yup. That should satisfy their curiosity.

I can tell'im I'm going to raid the Seagram's distillery.

Hey, when we're gabbing on the phone some time, ask me about the 2 cats I had for about a year.

JTPencils
03-08-2007, 11:04 PM
lol. Actually I watched that whole movie going "damn I used to have that.. Damn I used to have that."


Reminds me of the greatest name I ever heard for a comic shop. The place was called "But My Mom Threw It Out". I met the vendor at a convention once. Never was able to get there to check the place out. But the name stuck with me.

Inkpot1965
03-08-2007, 11:09 PM
Reminds me of the greatest name I ever heard for a comic shop. The place was called "But My Mom Threw It Out". I met the vendor at a convention once. Never was able to get there to check the place out. But the name stuck with me.

I think a good name would be "Comics Geek Emporium".

wishlish
03-08-2007, 11:17 PM
I'm certain that Peter and Kevin learned any number of essential lessons by putting out those two fold-and-staple endeavors. And I'd be willing to wager that had they NOT learned the lessons they got from doing that, the Turtles - the comics, as well as the multi-bazillion dollar empire that grew out of them - never would have happened.


Um...

Not to throw water on your premise, but Kevin is not someone you want to emulate as a businessman. See his Comics Journal interview from the late 90s, where he admitted he lost $14 million on the Tundra business, mostly through bad management. He also says that Mirage, the company that published the comics, was poorly managed by an uncle.

Now, if you want to marry a hot model, DO emulate Kevin. Multimedia emperor? Kevin. Comics businessman? Eh...not so much.

Papergirl
03-08-2007, 11:32 PM
That's funny, because to me my studio looks pretty cluttered.

And I miss my kitty.


c

Ooooh! I'm dying of envy here! What a beautiful place, Colleen!


I'm so sorry about your kitty! :(

If you ever feel the need, you're more than welcome to come visit mine. I have 7 of them, and they all LOVE attention.

~Bev

wishlish
03-08-2007, 11:32 PM
Oh boy, don't they just take over everything? The little furballs.

Just reading this has made me weepy. I miss my Sawyer every single day.

He loved this beautiful woodland stream we have here and delighted in drinking from the mountain water. His favorite spot was near a small pool and waterfall. So, I buried him near it. He hated cold weather and I just couldn't stand the idea of putting him in the cold ground, so my dad made him a coffin. Then I wrapped Sawyer up in his (my) favorite pashmina shawl, gave him some treats, family photos and rested his head on a silk pillow.

My mom poured a 400 pound concrete crypt for him. Then I planted a garden over it all.

The excess inspired my brother to declare that the burial befitted a mighty warrior. After which he reminded me that I should be grateful that we were living in the modern age, because in ancient days the servants would be buried with the warrior.

What a kidder.

Damn it, you made me cry.

My cat, Dewey, nearly died last year. He had to have emergency surgery. He pulled through okay (though his vision's a bit worse after the whole ordeal). He's been the best lil' buddy you could ever ask for during my whole stinking leg injury ordeal.

Here's some photos:

http://photos.raycornwall.com/

willtupper
03-08-2007, 11:52 PM
Dear Rick Olney Thread On You'll All Be Sorry Diary,

It's now almost 2:00AM. Looks like we won't hit the illustrious 20,000 post mark before my head hits the pillow of my wonderful, warm bed.

Rations are still high.

Morale gets stronger by the day. NO ONE will ever treat brilliant, talented, creative individuals this way, again.

Not if they know what's good for them.

Maybe we'll hit the illustrious 20,000 tomorrow. Time will tell.

Oh! And the Goddess Gail "No Quotes" Simone made me her fake myspace friend! I'm still trying to decide what's neater - her being my fake myspace friend, or magician David Blaine?

I say... it's a tie! Goodnight! :)

generaljackcosmo
03-09-2007, 12:18 AM
Forgive me if I sound like I'm complimenting Olney in any way...but I've just gotta say, this whole thread...indeed these forums in general are all new to me--

And this guy is freaking hysterical.

Obviously this asshole is not going to show up at WW Chicago and fight me, but I pray to the God of all that is holy that I run into him at some con somewhere...was this shithead in Megacon last month? Because I will punch myself in the face right now if I missed that opportunity.

Looking back at all the threats this shit-talking pussy made to people here (and elsewhere), it is AMAZING to me how quickly and in such a seemingly dignified (at least relatively speaking) manner he responded to my open challenge over at myspace.

The thing this guy just doesn't get, I guess, is that I (and others on here, obviously) REALLY WANT TO KICK HIS ASS.

I mean, there's talking about it, and then there's doing it. I would jump through almost any hoop necessary at this point to make this happen. If there is any way I can fight this fucker and not get arrested...I'm game.

Sarah Beach
03-09-2007, 12:37 AM
"Seemingly dignified" is the key. He fakes his way through just about everything.

Gail Simone
03-09-2007, 12:44 AM
Forgive me if I sound like I'm complimenting Olney in any way...but I've just gotta say, this whole thread...indeed these forums in general are all new to me--

And this guy is freaking hysterical.

Obviously this asshole is not going to show up at WW Chicago and fight me, but I pray to the God of all that is holy that I run into him at some con somewhere...was this shithead in Megacon last month? Because I will punch myself in the face right now if I missed that opportunity.

Looking back at all the threats this shit-talking pussy made to people here (and elsewhere), it is AMAZING to me how quickly and in such a seemingly dignified (at least relatively speaking) manner he responded to my open challenge over at myspace.

The thing this guy just doesn't get, I guess, is that I (and others on here, obviously) REALLY WANT TO KICK HIS ASS.

I mean, there's talking about it, and then there's doing it. I would jump through almost any hoop necessary at this point to make this happen. If there is any way I can fight this fucker and not get arrested...I'm game.



Dude, if you can climb a set of stairs without turning into a wheezing swollen sweaty tomato, you've got Rick beat.

OBVIOUSLY your challenge was to have a CONSENUAL fight, which Rick, being Rick, turned into Pearl Harbor, somehow. Smart, he ain't, and brave, the man is NOT.

But still, I don't think anyone worth a damn should soil their hands on him, and you seem worth a damn to me.

I don't wish actual physical violence on anyone, including Rick.


Although, the irony is, didn't Rick challenge someone to a fight, just like this, some years back? For charity, supposedly, one of his millions of imagined enemies?

We need to find that post, because if he threated the General with legal action, then he too is just as culpable, surely?

Gail

SUPERECWFAN1
03-09-2007, 12:55 AM
Ok to change the topic to something....nice.....

How many watch the ABC sitcom According to Jim ? This past week his fat brother-in-law was letting him spend a few nights at his place since his sister was staying at Jim's place with the new baby. Jim however was kinda shocked at how Andy ( his brother-in-law) had his items fixed.

He touches a special football in a case and pushes down and out ejects a wall of COMICS,TOYS,ACTION FIGURES & VIDEO GAMES. Andy asks " So wanna play one of my 1st person shooter video games or play Monopoly ? "

I thought it was just freakin awesome to see this wall of collectibles slide out like some batcave type deal.

OzBat!
03-09-2007, 12:56 AM
There are a distinct lack of Transformers toys in those studio shots.

I don't think we can be friends anymore! :(

singoalla
03-09-2007, 12:56 AM
By Olney logic, not only are we sisters, but we're having three-ways with Neil.

~Bev

~sigh~ Where's Neil when you need him?

Linkara
03-09-2007, 12:58 AM
~sigh~ Where's Neil when you need him?

...I have no idea who Neil is but I'll gladly take his place.

Koben Kelly
03-09-2007, 01:16 AM
Since we're on the subject of feline companions, I guess I'll go ahead and admit to being a (little) bitch, as well.

My little StanLee-boy (that's right) is my world. He's been with me for nine years now. He's gotten me through some reeeeeally rough patches, including my break-up with my last girlfriend, Lyn-Z, who I found out, after I broke up with her, had recently developed the penchant for cutting herself. Yeah. Anyway, Stan is a tuxedo cat, almost a real life counterpart for Sylvester. He has the sweetest personality and oddly human tendencies. We tuck in for the night at the same time, with him curling up with his back to my chest as soon as I lay down for sleep. He has, as of late, been displaying affection in charming ways. To wake me up, never too early for me, he lightly dots my eyelids with his tongue. Maybe, I'm an optimist, but, it really does seem like that's his way of returning the kisses I place on his cheeks and forehead. Who knows? He is one of those male cats who are dependant on being in physical contact with their caretaker... at all times. I can't count the number of times I've had to lift him off of my lap because I've had to type up an interview or reviews or something. I love him more than any human being beside my sainted mother.

Bottom line: I'm gonna lose my shit when he passes. No joke. I really have no idea how I'm gonna handle it. *sigh*

Guess I just have to cherish the fact that the lil' sucker imprinted on me when his eyes were still baby-cat blue.

MacQuarrie
03-09-2007, 01:28 AM
Gee, thanks.

I am from Rochester -- suburb of Chili, to be exact. And I am female. I can't see Olney pretending to be one of those, can you?

I'm trying not to take offense at every little thing (since it's been pointed out that I'm too sensitive), but it's not much fun being called a sockpuppet. At least Gail and Darren were nice, which I appreciate.

Now you see why I say I don't belong here?

I'm sold. This can't possibly be Olney. Note the proper grammar, spelling and punctuation. Note the absolute lack of self-aggrandizement. Note the complete lack of malaprops.

Welcome, bluecove. Please do stay.

singoalla
03-09-2007, 01:50 AM
Oh, God! I do the same thing! Wouldn't dream of doing this in someone's home, but in a work environment, I can't help myself.

Whenever I was on a killer deadline, the dishes might go, the kitchen might go, the bathroom might need a scrub, but by golly, the office was tidy.

Eventually, when I made enough money, I indulged in a maid service once in awhile, but I never let them near the work stuff.

If I am on a really tight schedule now, family members will cook and clean for me so I can concentrate on work. Still, the only person who touches anything in my work area is me. I even built and moved most of the furniture, though my parents helped me with the initial move to this house.

My next project is to raise money to build a small cottage to expand my studio space. I hope to have it entirely lined with bookshelves. It makes me giddy to think of it. Many of my books are stored in boxes in the well house, and I can't find them when I need them.


c


I would pay you to organize my stuff if A, it wasn't doomed to fail and B, I'm notoriously possessive of everything I own. Noo touchy.

I have everything in piles, sorted after Subject (book, movie, cd etc),size and type (big, small, hardcover, pocketbook?), then genre, then alphabetized. Of course this all looks good on paper, but well, they're really just piles, and things move around, and then we have the brushes and the paints and the woodpanels. It's slightly more organized and clean than Francis Bacon's studio... :D

If I organize something it takes me hours and hours. I get lost in the sorting, and looking at receipts and notes, and folding the bookpages and testing the panels and brushes.
All of a sudden I've lost 6 hrs and forgot to eat too. :D

singoalla
03-09-2007, 01:54 AM
You come off as someone who'd have her working environment together, Colleen.

He IS like that creepy lady somebody mentioned a while back, desperately trying to equate himself to, and create nonexistent relationships with, reputable comic creators.

Shudder.

An organised environment just feels better. The air is more crisp and energised. It smells better. It's just a healthier place in which to work and much more motivating.

My lady. She's off her rocker that one. And once people openly shun her or confront her she gets angry and threatens police action for theft of works she's created and.. She's just insane. The woman needs an enema.

Need I mention I feel no anxiety in my cluttered corner of the world? Organized chaos is soothing to the soul. Well, okay, just plain chaos but still.
:D

singoalla
03-09-2007, 02:18 AM
I'm goin' down I'm gonna burn...:evilsmile

The Dante's Inferno Test has banished you to the Fifth Level of Hell!

Here is how you matched up against all the levels:
..
Level 4 | Moderate Prodigal and Avaricious
Level 5 | Very High Wrathful and Gloomy
Level 6 - The City of Dis | Very High Heretics
...

Apparently killing a man just to watch him die is frowned on.

"The sweet light no longer strikes against your eyes. Your shade has been banished to... the Sixth Level of Hell - The City of Dis!"

Oh dear :evilsmile Even though I said No to murdering for wealth. Bah.

Reverend Smooth
03-09-2007, 02:31 AM
They become almost like family.They are family. <3

I'm not sure if one of mine is going to last the summer; the last one almost did him in. He's always had trouble breathing, and it's turned into this wet wheezing over the last few years, worst during the summer.

Reverend Smooth
03-09-2007, 02:31 AM
Organized chaos is soothing to the soul. Well, okay, just plain chaos but still.
:D

'You cleaned?! Crap, now I can't find anything!' DX

Samuel Catalino
03-09-2007, 03:24 AM
Dude, if you can climb a set of stairs without turning into a wheezing swollen sweaty tomato, you've got Rick beat.

OBVIOUSLY your challenge was to have a CONSENUAL fight, which Rick, being Rick, turned into Pearl Harbor, somehow. Smart, he ain't, and brave, the man is NOT.

But still, I don't think anyone worth a damn should soil their hands on him, and you seem worth a damn to me.

I don't wish actual physical violence on anyone, including Rick.


Although, the irony is, didn't Rick challenge someone to a fight, just like this, some years back? For charity, supposedly, one of his millions of imagined enemies?

We need to find that post, because if he threated the General with legal action, then he too is just as culpable, surely?

Gail

Gail,

My memory has faded from the flame wars of the gutters years ago in comic con, but I think that post or challenge which you refer (Rick challenging someone to fight for charity) to may be found there. To whom he was challenging I can not remember.

Best,

Samuel

JTPencils
03-09-2007, 04:20 AM
Forgive me if I sound like I'm complimenting Olney in any way...but I've just gotta say, this whole thread...indeed these forums in general are all new to me--

And this guy is freaking hysterical.

Obviously this asshole is not going to show up at WW Chicago and fight me, but I pray to the God of all that is holy that I run into him at some con somewhere...was this shithead in Megacon last month? Because I will punch myself in the face right now if I missed that opportunity.

Looking back at all the threats this shit-talking pussy made to people here (and elsewhere), it is AMAZING to me how quickly and in such a seemingly dignified (at least relatively speaking) manner he responded to my open challenge over at myspace.

The thing this guy just doesn't get, I guess, is that I (and others on here, obviously) REALLY WANT TO KICK HIS ASS.

I mean, there's talking about it, and then there's doing it. I would jump through almost any hoop necessary at this point to make this happen. If there is any way I can fight this fucker and not get arrested...I'm game.

General, you could always attend his next "big" con wearing a certified Matt Doc Martin T-shirt. That might get the fireworks started!

Seriously though, he IS a huge bully, and when finally confronted, like all bullies, he shies away, tail tucked between his legs. So I don't see him taking you up on your open challenge in any way. Even if it meant every debt he owes were to be cleared if he wins, he still wouldn't have the cajones to do it.

But it's a nice thought! It would be hysterical if you WERE able to do it for charity, and then sent St. Jude's the money he supposedly sent years ago!!

the4thpip
03-09-2007, 04:41 AM
I gave driving directions to Jamie Farr.

Butch Guice once gave me directions. :D

the4thpip
03-09-2007, 04:47 AM
On second thought...

I'm going to write my own press release publicizing my column, which may or may not post on Friday.

I started writing it today and could finish it, but now I'm thinking of taking the rest of the day off instead.

To celebrate!

Because my daughter Kelly, she who got smacked in the face by that softball, has made the junior varsity team at her high school.

This is major for her and us. Though Kelly excels at volleyball and softball, she didn't make those teams, much to the bafflement of those who saw her play in middle school. Medina's funny that way. It's almost like you need to know the secret handshake for your kid to make a team.

A third disappointment would have brutal.

Excuse me while I do my happy dance.

More later.

Tony

I really hope the Tony happy dance will go up on youtube!

Cogratulations to Casa Isabella!

Flamebird
03-09-2007, 05:03 AM
Said I'd never post again, but... I just had a trojan attack my computer (thank goodness for virus protection), and the last place I went was the orcafresh myspace blog. Don't know for sure that's where the trojan came from, but to be on the safe side I thought I'd warn everyone.

Thanks,

Too late to help in my case, as I've just spent 3 days wiping and reformatting my PC. The last thing I was doing? Checking something about Olney.:mad:

Luckily I found what I needed and got it sent before the crash, but I still lost have my database and about a weeks worth of work that hadn't been backed up yet.

Ah well, life goes on and it was a good way to clean up a bunch of useless programs that I don't use anymore.;)


*takes whatever minor victories he can*

AIPman1
03-09-2007, 05:51 AM
THANK YOU, BLAKE! For answering my question whether or not RO had ever actually published ANYTHING IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE, EVER.
I have copies of some of the FRESH issues he put out. As a small press newsletter, it's OK - he was working with people who kept him grounded under some sembalence of reality. But you can see the seeds of his coming divergeance into megalomania plainly.

And - get this - who KNOWS how far those little do-it-yourself projects can go, or what they can ultimately lead to? For example, I'm not sure how many people know it, but before Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird (co-creators of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) put out their first reptillian issue, they used their "living room business" (Mirage Studios. Get it?) to publish two issues of a comic book they dubbed, "Gobbledygook."

I've got a copy of a minicomic Kevin Eastman was in called "The book of Man" - all the creators in it their last names ended in "Man" It was put out well before the Turtles.

The moral of this story, maybe, is this: start small. Gail, I think, is another great example. How she just wrote for herself and some friends, starting sending it around. And look what happened? Same principle, similiar incredible results :).
Teaching that sentiment is the core of the Self Publisher Association. We love it when a member comes in with the attitude of "Well, this is what I can do now, what do you think?" Ego and posturing have no place when you're not selling on a professional level...the best thing you can do is get something, anything, finished, and see what people think of it. Growing a fan base begins with entertaining yourself.

anyway, check it out, besides the Anthology I got back from the printers yesterday, I also got this back:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/39125897e9056295a2634fa3b3926b06.jpg

Working on the next issue already. DOC (Lance) turned in the lead article for #51 - a cover feature about Rouge Wolf Productions.

We'd love to have more professionals who are interested in influencing the small press and indy level presses participate in the magazine. Either as subjects of interviews showing your indy roots, or writing advice columns, a quick how-to perspective on topics you have things to say on...anyone interested, contact me off-board.

Oh, and the pimp on my shouldier says you can get a copy of #50 at:

CLICK HERE!!! (http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,961/category_id,21/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,149/)

the4thpip
03-09-2007, 05:53 AM
Kurt Busiek is a big mean cheater!

Audrey Hepburn? How the hell are we supposed to compete with that? Who's going to care that I shook the hand of BB King? Audrey Hepburn? That's like using an atom bomb on a mosquito. Geez, dude, give us mortals a chance.

Audrey Hepburn ... mumble mumble mumble. I say Kurt Busiek poops his pants.

I kissed Gladys Knight on her cheek.

Flamebird
03-09-2007, 06:22 AM
just to rub it in Olney's face: I just got this back from the printers:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/images/stories/DSP-MVA-2.jpg

Anyone want a copy?

CLICK HERE! (http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,954/category_id,29/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,149/)

Starting work on #3...

GARSH, that's pretty,Ian. :D

You ARE gonna send me a preview copy, right?

Not that I'm a reviewer or anything; just a broke slob. :(

AIPman1
03-09-2007, 06:26 AM
GARSH, that's pretty,Ian. :D

You ARE gonna send me a preview copy, right?

Not that I'm a reviewer or anything; just a broke slob. :(

Garsh, y'know, as much as I like ya and alll...only a few select review copies are going out...

I'm going to be making a PDF Available of Self Publisher! #50 as soon as #51 is in the printer's...I'll let you know!

PatrickG
03-09-2007, 06:32 AM
And you dodged her? Dear goodness, why?!?

--Nat (who made Janeane Garofalo laugh once)

I made Joss Whedon laugh once.

Man, though, the Audrey Hepburn thing just plain WINS.

Though, to be fair, if Kurt were to pull Olney, I think he'd say that he was escorting orphans through a hurricane and that Audrey Hepburn lunged at him, brutally assaulted him with an umbrella and left him for dead. Using zen master skills, he overcame the pain of two punctured kidneys and managed to get to a Michael's where he stitched himself up with yarn, a hot glue gun and a butterknife courtesy of his black ops military arts & crafts survival training.

singoalla
03-09-2007, 06:38 AM
'You cleaned?! Crap, now I can't find anything!' DX

basically. How'd you guess? O_o

singoalla
03-09-2007, 06:44 AM
...I have no idea who Neil is but I'll gladly take his place.

This is Neil (http://www.neilgaiman.com) :D

Where's Neil when you need him? (http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Neil-When-You-Need/dp/B000FP2IXM)

THEDOC
03-09-2007, 06:50 AM
JT! Rick would never approve of that office! It's got far too many collectibles in it.

Although isn't it funny, how a meltdown ago, Rick was decrying Sam for having a messy bedroom, whereas Rick is saying him living in filth is a measure of his brilliance.

But just so JT doesn't feel left out, my little bedroom/office set up..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03175.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03176.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03177.jpg

^_^; So neat...

Damn Danny that looks awesome. Must be hell to dust those shelves.

THEDOC
03-09-2007, 06:53 AM
Try looking up MAP CHEST at http://www.homedecorators.com


They come in a variety of sizes and finishes, they are very handsome AND they cost a hell of a lot less than artist flat files.

The drawback is that I have had trouble with one or two I have ordered. Sometimes the drawers were not cut evenly and had to be sanded down. Other than that, they look great and do the job. After sanding, no more problems.

c

hmm would those chest fit original art pages?

THEDOC
03-09-2007, 06:54 AM
Garsh, y'know, as much as I like ya and alll...only a few select review copies are going out...

I'm going to be making a PDF Available of Self Publisher! #50 as soon as #51 is in the printer's...I'll let you know!

I take it 50 isn't back yet. Really wish I had copies for the show tomorrow.

THEDOC
03-09-2007, 07:02 AM
I have copies of some of the FRESH issues he put out. As a small press newsletter, it's OK - he was working with people who kept him grounded under some sembalence of reality. But you can see the seeds of his coming divergeance into megalomania plainly.

I've got a copy of a minicomic Kevin Eastman was in called "The book of Man" - all the creators in it their last names ended in "Man" It was put out well before the Turtles.

Teaching that sentiment is the core of the Self Publisher Association. We love it when a member comes in with the attitude of "Well, this is what I can do now, what do you think?" Ego and posturing have no place when you're not selling on a professional level...the best thing you can do is get something, anything, finished, and see what people think of it. Growing a fan base begins with entertaining yourself.

anyway, check it out, besides the Anthology I got back from the printers yesterday, I also got this back:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/39125897e9056295a2634fa3b3926b06.jpg

Working on the next issue already. DOC (Lance) turned in the lead article for #51 - a cover feature about Rouge Wolf Productions.

We'd love to have more professionals who are interested in influencing the small press and indy level presses participate in the magazine. Either as subjects of interviews showing your indy roots, or writing advice columns, a quick how-to perspective on topics you have things to say on...anyone interested, contact me off-board.

Oh, and the pimp on my shouldier says you can get a copy of #50 at:

CLICK HERE!!! (http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,961/category_id,21/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,149/)

Thanks for the plug Chief! Now to get my face on the cover of the Rolling Stone!

Flamebird
03-09-2007, 07:08 AM
I kin tell'im I'm doin' a little reckon-loitering?

NAH, Just tell 'em you're goin' "snipe" hunting.

God knows that take almost as long as getting a check from RO.;)

Flamebird
03-09-2007, 07:15 AM
Dude, if you can climb a set of stairs without turning into a wheezing swollen sweaty tomato, you've got Rick beat.

OBVIOUSLY your challenge was to have a CONSENUAL fight, which Rick, being Rick, turned into Pearl Harbor, somehow. Smart, he ain't, and brave, the man is NOT.

But still, I don't think anyone worth a damn should soil their hands on him, and you seem worth a damn to me.

I don't wish actual physical violence on anyone, including Rick.


Although, the irony is, didn't Rick challenge someone to a fight, just like this, some years back? For charity, supposedly, one of his millions of imagined enemies?

We need to find that post, because if he threated the General with legal action, then he too is just as culpable, surely?

Gail


Yeah, I believe it was "Buck Futters" over on the comicon boards, circa 1999.

I did have it saved, if it's on my PC that DIDN"T crash I'll post it later.

If not it's not that hard to find again.

CutterMike
03-09-2007, 07:24 AM
'You cleaned?! Crap, now I can't find anything!' DX

Oh, thank god!

For a while. I thought that I was the only one here who had a piling system. It drive me crazy when someone committs a neatness in my workspace!

In my college days, my drawing table was right at the foot of my bed. Sitting down in my desk chair, I would slide my hands under the pile of papers, books, etc. on my drawing table, rotate 180 degrees, and set the pile on the foot of my bed. When going to bed, reverse the process.

My housemate (tidy) would occasionally come in to borrow something and I would amaze/appal him.

Typical interaction:
Him: "You got a 30/60 triangle handy? I can't find mine."

Me: (Reach behind me without looking, 2/3 of the way down the stack on the right side. Slide hand in two inches. Grasp triangle and slide it out without disturbing the rest of the pile. Hand it to him.) "Here."

Yes, wanting *EVERYTHING* I might need within reach when I'm working means that things pile up around me, but I generally *KNOW* where everything is within the pile.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Typo Lad
03-09-2007, 07:27 AM
Oh I'm a piler. I have to keep my piles inside drawers at work, because we get VIPs visiting, but inside my file system is "holistic" at best.

At home my desk has been known to make people tremble for fear that they will be stuck by falling debris.

My Far Better Half, on the other hand, keeps everything in perfect order.

Inkpot1965
03-09-2007, 07:30 AM
NAH, Just tell 'em you're goin' "snipe" hunting.

God knows that take almost as long as getting a check from RO.;)

Maybe I can tell'em I'm doing research on the size differences of raccoons North and South. We DO have some the size of small dogs here.;)

SteveForbes
03-09-2007, 08:12 AM
Oh, thank god!

For a while. I thought that I was the only one here who had a piling system. It drive me crazy when someone committs a neatness in my workspace!

In my college days, my drawing table was right at the foot of my bed. Sitting down in my desk chair, I would slide my hands under the pile of papers, books, etc. on my drawing table, rotate 180 degrees, and set the pile on the foot of my bed. When going to bed, reverse the process.

My housemate (tidy) would occasionally come in to borrow something and I would amaze/appal him.

Typical interaction:
Him: "You got a 30/60 triangle handy? I can't find mine."

Me: (Reach behind me without looking, 2/3 of the way down the stack on the right side. Slide hand in two inches. Grasp triangle and slide it out without disturbing the rest of the pile. Hand it to him.) "Here."

Yes, wanting *EVERYTHING* I might need within reach when I'm working means that things pile up around me, but I generally *KNOW* where everything is within the pile.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

I'm the same way.

My wife doesn't clean my office. (Hmm. I no longer have an office since we moved. Just some space, now.) She'll clean anything and everything EXCEPT my office space. Why? Because I have organized chaos going on. I know where things are at, because I placed them there. If I'm working on a story, I pull out all kinds of reference stuff and work it up, never putting anything back as the story grips me. And then I start typing, and I generally don't stop until I'm either tired, run out of inspiration, or am interrupted.

Now that I'm working again, we can add "or have to go to work" to that list.

-llama

TomStillwell
03-09-2007, 08:14 AM
The final hours are dwindling down on the first wave of items being offered in this auction. Get those bids in while you can.

Here's a taste of some of the items being offered in the second wave going up later today.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/auction/marz-1.jpg
A signed copy of the Ion TPB and script from Ron Marz.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/auction/doran1-1.jpg
Lost Souls art from Colleen Doran.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/auction/andreyko2-1.jpg
Signed Manhunter TPBs from Marc Andreyko.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/auction/gertler3-1.jpg
A trade collecting the sport cartoons of Charles Schulz signed by Jim Sasserville donated by Nat Gertler of About Comics.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZzapow21QQhtZ-1

Gail Simone
03-09-2007, 08:14 AM
No one in my family is even ALLOWED in my office, except the dogs.

Gail

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 08:43 AM
Damn Danny that looks awesome. Must be hell to dust those shelves.


lol. thanks..

Not really that hard. All you need is one of those little cans of compressed air you get to clean the inside of your computer. ;) It dusts and nothing falls off the shelf. ;)

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 08:46 AM
There are a distinct lack of Transformers toys in those studio shots.

I don't think we can be friends anymore! :(


Oz, look over on the shelf that has the radio.. There are busts of Optimus Prime and Megatron to either side of that. Behind Megatron is an old Slag Dinobot figure...

Randomly you'll probably find a few Constructicons sitting on shelves here and there.

Also if you look on my DVD rack you'll find a copy of Transformers: The movie. :)

colleen
03-09-2007, 09:23 AM
hmm would those chest fit original art pages?

Oh, yes. You can buy them in different sizes to fit what you need. My largest is 40" wide and 17" deep. Fits all standard comic art and event tabloid sized pages.

I have a smaller one that is perfect for 11"x14" originals, which is the size I normally work at these days.

c

Ronée
03-09-2007, 09:24 AM
JT! Rick would never approve of that office! It's got far too many collectibles in it.

Although isn't it funny, how a meltdown ago, Rick was decrying Sam for having a messy bedroom, whereas Rick is saying him living in filth is a measure of his brilliance.

But just so JT doesn't feel left out, my little bedroom/office set up..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03175.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03176.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/DSC03177.jpg

^_^; So neat...your bedroom looks like my office just make it all wonder woman, dallas cowboys, marilyn monroe and janis joplin shit.... :D

Typo Lad
03-09-2007, 09:27 AM
Danny - I just realized that I used to have that X-Men poster.

Wondewr what happened to it...

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 09:38 AM
Danny - I just realized that I used to have that X-Men poster.

Wondewr what happened to it...

Me too! I just recently "found" that poster on eBay after searching damn near 6 years... It was my favorite poster from when I was a kid. I loved Art Adams artwork, and when I was like 12 or so, I spent my allowence money on this very poster at K-Mart one weekend... After a few intercontinental moves, it got lost (along with a lot of my other awesome stuff, but that was due to trusting the wrong people to look after it.)

I had been searching for it ever snce I came back into the country and came across it!!! I had to use the buy it now thing. :p

Such an amazing piece.

check this guy's shop out.

http://stores.ebay.com/Vintage-Rare-Comic-Art-and-Posters

he might have another one!

And yay! I'm in the same league as Colleen and Ronee! ;)

Kozemp
03-09-2007, 09:40 AM
How is it you are alive to type this post ?

Were you reincarnated ?

Since Cam asked, and since to refuse an Australian is to court one's death, this is the story of How I Almost Killed Christopher Walken.

Years ago - I believe it was the winter of 2002 - I was in New York city to see Ian McKellen in Dance of Death. After the show I was waiting around outside the theatre to get autographs from the cast (McKellen, Helen Mirren, and David Strathairn). I was talking to a friend of mine on my cell phone, and when I hung up I turned around very quickly - can't remember why - and when I did -

POW!

I walked right smack into someone and knocked them flat onto the sidewalk. I look down to try and help the person I have so ignominiously assaulted...

It's Christopher Walken.

The only thought in my head is "oh my god he's gonna fucking kill me."

I reach down to try and help him up and start babbling "oh my god, I'm so sorry, I wasn't looking where I was going please don't hurt me here let me help you up..."

Eventually he gets back on his feet, and if you've never seen him in person let me tell you Walken is HUGE. I mean fucking HUGE. Like Rob Liefeld Cable huge. Guy's gotta be 6'2", maybe 6'3", solid 240-something. He towers over me, and I am not a small person.

He brushes some dirt off his jacket and looks at me and says, "no... really, it's... NOTHING."

HE ACTUALLY TALKS LIKE THAT. He sounds in real life like every bad Christopher Walken impression you've ever heard. Now I'm standing there staring up at him and for some reason what comes out of my mouth is:

"Man, you were great in The Dead Zone."

He smiles a little and says, "so, you're a... fan of the CLASSICS, hm?"

I stupidly say, "yeah. and you were the only good thing about A View To A Kill." WHY AM I SAYING THESE THINGS?!

He smiles a little more and says, "well, thank you, you're... very KIND. Now if you'll excuse me I have to... go INSIDE and see some friends." And he ducks in the stage door.

While I'm standing there staring at the door some random person behind me says, "dude, you almost killed Christopher Walken." I think about it and I realize he's right - another inch or two and Walken cracks his skull on the sidewalk, and then I have this vision of my friends at home watching a story on the news saying "local idiot kills beloved actor, film at 11."

This is something that happens with strange regularity. My friends say my mutant power is meeting celebrities in weird ways, but this is by far the weirdest.

JLK
yes, the... WEIRDEST.

Kurt Busiek
03-09-2007, 09:43 AM
anyway, check it out, besides the Anthology I got back from the printers yesterday, I also got this back:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/39125897e9056295a2634fa3b3926b06.jpg

You know, maybe it's the guy with the gun, but I read that logo as SELF-PUNISHER MAGAZINE. Several times. And started looking at the cover lines for jokes before I finally figured it out.

SELF-PUNISHER MAGAZINE. Think about it. An idea for our times.

kdb

Gail Simone
03-09-2007, 09:46 AM
Rick Olney inspired Christopher Walken to be that way.

Gail

Kurt Busiek
03-09-2007, 09:49 AM
The final hours are dwindling down on the first wave of items being offered in this auction.

And Scott Shaw! is kickin' my ass!

Bid up, people! I survived a ninja attack by Audrey Hepburn! Is this the way to honor the hero of your children? I was the inspiration for Admiral Whale-Head Guy in RETURN OF THE JEDI! I dreamed George Lucas told someone something like that, and I heard a garbled version of it!

kdb

the4thpip
03-09-2007, 09:53 AM
And Scott Shaw! is kickin' my ass!

Bid up, people! I survived a ninja attack by Audrey Hepburn! Is this the way to honor the hero of your children? I was the inspiration for Admiral Whale-Head Guy in RETURN OF THE JEDI! I dreamed George Lucas told someone something like that, and I heard a garbled version of it!

kdb

I wish... I inspired Carl Barks to make Donald Duck chronically broke in his comics. :(

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 09:54 AM
And Scott Shaw! is kickin' my ass!

Bid up, people! I survived a ninja attack by Audrey Hepburn! Is this the way to honor the hero of your children? I was the inspiration for Admiral Whale-Head Guy in RETURN OF THE JEDI! I dreamed George Lucas told someone something like that, and I heard a garbled version of it!

kdb

Don't worry Kurt, it's full of snipers. By the last hour there will be a flurry of bids.

That crumb catcher Scott Shaw! won't have a lead like that for long!

After all, he's on the "short list" that means he's through in comics! You have a few weeks left before you inadvertantly talk about some bad seafood you ate at a dinner one night for Rick to assume it's more hate speech against Orca to move up to the much feared "list o' doom!"

:)

Papergirl
03-09-2007, 10:05 AM
...I have no idea who Neil is but I'll gladly take his place.

Neil Gaiman.

And, if you don't know who THAT is, I think I'll cry!

~Bev

Papergirl
03-09-2007, 10:08 AM
I would pay you to organize my stuff if A, it wasn't doomed to fail and B, I'm notoriously possessive of everything I own. Noo touchy.

Same here! I'd LOVE to have someone come organize things for me, but it would drive me MAD having someone else touching MY STUFF.

That said, I'm not a slob, by any stretch of the imagination. Just a tad cluttered around my desk. Though, I'm sure there are other things that could use some reorganization. Hell, I just reorganized my closet the other day. And I'm STILL not happy with it.

~Bev

Papergirl
03-09-2007, 10:10 AM
This is Neil (http://www.neilgaiman.com) :D

*drools over Neil*

Where's Neil when you need him? (http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Neil-When-You-Need/dp/B000FP2IXM)

*drools even more over Neil's writing*

~Bev

TomStillwell
03-09-2007, 10:16 AM
You know, maybe it's the guy with the gun, but I read that logo as SELF-PUNISHER MAGAZINE. Several times. And started looking at the cover lines for jokes before I finally figured it out.

SELF-PUNISHER MAGAZINE. Think about it. An idea for our times.

kdb

That's the newest book coming out from Tightlip Entertainment with famed artist Benny Leal.

Linkara
03-09-2007, 10:19 AM
*drools over Neil*



*drools even more over Neil's writing*

~Bev

...

*Goes out and puts on a Neil Gaiman costume.*

Sarah Beach
03-09-2007, 10:46 AM
Butch Guice once gave me directions. :D

Butch Guice once gave me.... DINNER! ;) :p

THEDOC
03-09-2007, 10:48 AM
lol. thanks..

Not really that hard. All you need is one of those little cans of compressed air you get to clean the inside of your computer. ;) It dusts and nothing falls off the shelf. ;)

Ahh the secret finally revealed.

TomStillwell
03-09-2007, 10:48 AM
And Scott Shaw! is kickin' my ass!

Bid up, people! I survived a ninja attack by Audrey Hepburn! Is this the way to honor the hero of your children? I was the inspiration for Admiral Whale-Head Guy in RETURN OF THE JEDI! I dreamed George Lucas told someone something like that, and I heard a garbled version of it!

kdb

I'll do the laundry of whoever earns the highest total bids for a year.

THEDOC
03-09-2007, 10:50 AM
Oh, yes. You can buy them in different sizes to fit what you need. My largest is 40" wide and 17" deep. Fits all standard comic art and event tabloid sized pages.

I have a smaller one that is perfect for 11"x14" originals, which is the size I normally work at these days.

c

Thanks Colleen, I have buch of old IF art and some from others that lie on a shelf and am afraid the might get ruined.

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 10:56 AM
And Scott Shaw! is kickin' my ass!

Bid up, people! I survived a ninja attack by Audrey Hepburn! Is this the way to honor the hero of your children? I was the inspiration for Admiral Whale-Head Guy in RETURN OF THE JEDI! I dreamed George Lucas told someone something like that, and I heard a garbled version of it!

kdb

http://shadowmage.plinkomedia.com/images/Admiral-Ackbar-trap.jpg

Sarah Beach
03-09-2007, 11:01 AM
Since Cam asked, and since to refuse an Australian is to court one's death, this is the story of How I Almost Killed Christopher Walken.

Years ago - I believe it was the winter of 2002 - I was in New York city to see Ian McKellen in Dance of Death. After the show I was waiting around outside the theatre to get autographs from the cast (McKellen, Helen Mirren, and David Strathairn). I was talking to a friend of mine on my cell phone, and when I hung up I turned around very quickly - can't remember why - and when I did -

POW!

I walked right smack into someone and knocked them flat onto the sidewalk. I look down to try and help the person I have so ignominiously assaulted...

It's Christopher Walken.

The only thought in my head is "oh my god he's gonna fucking kill me."

I reach down to try and help him up and start babbling "oh my god, I'm so sorry, I wasn't looking where I was going please don't hurt me here let me help you up..."

Eventually he gets back on his feet, and if you've never seen him in person let me tell you Walken is HUGE. I mean fucking HUGE. Like Rob Liefeld Cable huge. Guy's gotta be 6'2", maybe 6'3", solid 240-something. He towers over me, and I am not a small person.

He brushes some dirt off his jacket and looks at me and says, "no... really, it's... NOTHING."

HE ACTUALLY TALKS LIKE THAT. He sounds in real life like every bad Christopher Walken impression you've ever heard. Now I'm standing there staring up at him and for some reason what comes out of my mouth is:

"Man, you were great in The Dead Zone."

He smiles a little and says, "so, you're a... fan of the CLASSICS, hm?"

I stupidly say, "yeah. and you were the only good thing about A View To A Kill." WHY AM I SAYING THESE THINGS?!

He smiles a little more and says, "well, thank you, you're... very KIND. Now if you'll excuse me I have to... go INSIDE and see some friends." And he ducks in the stage door.

While I'm standing there staring at the door some random person behind me says, "dude, you almost killed Christopher Walken." I think about it and I realize he's right - another inch or two and Walken cracks his skull on the sidewalk, and then I have this vision of my friends at home watching a story on the news saying "local idiot kills beloved actor, film at 11."

This is something that happens with strange regularity. My friends say my mutant power is meeting celebrities in weird ways, but this is by far the weirdest.

JLK
yes, the... WEIRDEST.

THAT is a great story! All I can say is that I once saw him on stage. :rolleyes:

Calliope's Comics
03-09-2007, 11:01 AM
Let me run through a quick brushes with greatness (and not so greatness)

Harlan Ellison called me an asshole when I was 10 years old at a convention after I watched a banner fall on him.

I have been out to dinner with Matt and Jeff Hardy, Edge, Christian Cage and Gangrel.

Shawn Michaels wore a Shawn Is God Shirt I made for him into the ring.

I walked 2 miles from Wrigley Field to a local bar with Harry Carray(R.I.P.).

I was talking to Brian Pillman(R.I.P.) in a bar when someone else walked up and started to talk to him and he threatened to kill them.

Hmm.. and of course I have met random wrestlers and other people but only got pictures with them. According to the RO theory of celebrity interaction, I am now best friends with all of the people above and can easily get them to do anything I want .

Coppervale Studio
03-09-2007, 11:02 AM
You showed me yours, I'll show you mine!

Here's an online article with some pictures of my studio. I rearranged a bit after my 20 year-old beloved cat Sawyer died this summer (about 3 weeks after these pictures were taken), but it looks pretty much as you see it here.

Seek and ye shall not find an arena of rampant disorder.

http://www.thefifthbranch.com/gorilladaze/?p=49

Oh, man - Sawyer died? I'm sorry to hear that, Colleen. I think I even have pictures of you and Sawyer around somewhere (from like, '94...)

In the last couple years I lost two dogs I had from back then (Cindy's springer/cocker mix Emily, and my brown chihuahua, Thurber).

/

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 11:04 AM
His grasp of the english language continues to inspire all...


Hmmm... "Syndicate" once implied organized crime?


So after being banned from CBR's YABS forum by "Gail Simone", an action Ms. "Simone" claims to never have done before or not believe in --- I did something I have not done in awhile. I surfed a little and checked out Pop Syndicate (http://www.popsyndicate.com/), where I happened upon a topic header -- Biggest Comic Book Industry Mistakes.



I read the article created by Stefan Halley, reproduced here for your perusal review: <snip>

Well written, with a number of places for the concerned reader to chime in, right?



Now, just let me interject that I know I'm not the brightest lightbulb in the box, okay? And nobody better than me (at present, naturally) knows that the fabric of FANDOM exists on opinion to the large variety of product we comic book readers enjoy.
So I was surprised to read the first response to that superb article be, and the banter went like this:



What? No Rick Olney?

Posted by Chris Williams 01/24/2007, 11:25 AM




That would be Ronee's biggest comic book mistake.

Posted by Stefan 01/24/2007, 11:39 AM



Oh, he's affect a lot more people than just her.

What do you think about House of M or DC's new weekly series after 52?

Posted by Chris Williams 01/24/2007, 11:49 AM



I think House of M was slapped together at the last minute and has largely been swept under the carpet. It didn't really affect much of overall and outside of the X-books, it's not used.


I don't know much about the series after 52. Countdown could be good. 52 has been consistent.

Posted by Stefan 01/24/2007, 12:02 PM



Of the ten you mentioned, I would have to say that Civil War leaves the worst taste in my mouth because it's so recent (or should I say late?). I know you had room for only ten but if your list expanded to fifteen would Heroes Reborn be included? Because I think that event (and Rob Liefeld's art in partcular) is what drove this Marvel Zombie to finally pick up and buy DC comics.
Posted by Professor Apexx 01/25/2007, 11:28 PM



Heroes Reborn is one of the worst gimmicks that Marvel produced. It's #11 followed closely by Onslaught. Don't the two really go hand in hand?
Posted by Stefan 01/26/2007, 12:03 AM



ahem. Atlantis Attacks?
hello?
Posted by Dlphntat 01/28/2007, 02:07 AM



And, here is where I come in...



Heh, heh…

You two guys should take your 'show' on the road. Well, except for Chris. He's been there already.

~Rick
Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment
Posted by Rick Olney 03/08/2007, 05:36 PM



I don't know what that means, but I think its "ban" worthy.

Chris
Posted by Chris Williams 03/08/2007, 05:42 PM



Well, actually any person not knowing who Chris Williams is ...
versus what I meant by my remark -- wouldn't understand. Chris actually spends a lot of time on the road when the weather is nice. He's commented on it publicly before numerous times. Yet, in this instance he feels that it was placed at his feet as a slight. Not so.



Anyway, I figured I'd clear up the small misunderstanding and I knew that Chis Williams has been a participant on the libelous CBR YABS thread. You know, the one that "Gail Simone", token female comic book writer of the 90's, gives everyone a chance to read and marvel at her shite spinning her cohorts. But I figured, well until the facts come out on what took place last summer to fall with my TightLip Entertainment company ... nobody has the whole picture and facts to have an informed and educated opinion. People really are easily led by their nose in some places.



So I logged back in at www.popsyndicate.com and write my reply:



No, Chris and Stefan -- it was just an observation based on what was said irresponsibly, imo.



Getting back on topic, I'd remark that I thought #3 best reflected 'mistakes' made.



3. CrossGen – Speaking of comic blunders, CrossGen seemed like the new business model for comics but quickly turned into a horrible memory.



I guess it is difficult for others to see the positive value that CrossGen gave the business of comics. They pretty much braved new paths in opening up the Intenet to online marketing, and that allowed other publishers both large and small to walk in their 'footsteps' in that respect.



Launching in January 2000, CrossGen seemed fresh and new by launching a whole universe not focused on spandex comics.



Yeah, how radical was that back then!?



By June 2004, CrossGen shuttered their doors and sold off everything to Disney for a million dollars. What happened?



Well, one could blame that innovation has a cost. Or that maybe the major part of the problem was in the hiring pool? All in all, new stories and characters impressed themselves on the minds and lives of a lot of people. Not a bad thing, was it?



Apparently it's expensive to run a comic book company and founder Mark Alessi quit paying people, which created a vortex of failure dragging the company down further and further into the abyss.



Well, it is easy to peek into a window and critique a person. While Mark Alessi did stop paying people it could be that we'll never know the various and sundry details. He certainly wasn't into drama, nor would he ever lower himself (as some readily do) to interact with people that shoot their mouth's off first and ask question after.



Where is Mark Alessi now? No one knows…some says he's a ghost that walks among us; other say he's just a myth.



Excuse me, but I have to laugh at that remark. I have no idea where Mark Alessi is. I just hope he's happy to be free of his creative 'demons' and living life happy and satisfied somewhere. That is, versus being someone like Marvel's Joe Quesada that makes his 'buck' trashing the stories and character quality that so many industry added to in a positive way over the years.



And I then hit the post button to -- you guessed it -- be told that I have to be a 'member' of that website to post comments. See how easily people are swayed? Frankly, who would really want to converse with people like that? Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset, hurt, or angry. I just chalk it up to the underlying infection that keeps lots of people away from websites like this, and certainly turns them off to exploring comic books, sequential art, or anything in trade or graphic book format. And that makes me sad. Because where is it written that we all have to think alike, understand each other instantly, or be rude to each other?


That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

AIPman1
03-09-2007, 11:09 AM
That's the newest book coming out from Tightlip Entertainment with famed artist Benny Leal.

That's beyond parody, into scareody...

AIPman1
03-09-2007, 11:11 AM
Let me run through a quick brushes with greatness (and not so greatness)


I once rode in an elevator at the same time as stan lee...gave him a minicomic too!

Larry Dixon
03-09-2007, 11:14 AM
Though, to be fair, if Kurt were to pull Olney, I think he'd say that he was escorting orphans through a hurricane and that Audrey Hepburn lunged at him, brutally assaulted him with an umbrella and left him for dead. Using zen master skills, he overcame the pain of two punctured kidneys and managed to get to a Michael's where he stitched himself up with yarn, a hot glue gun and a butterknife courtesy of his black ops military arts & crafts survival training.

(Slappy Squirrel voice) Now THAT's comedy!

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 11:16 AM
I once rode in an elevator at the same time as stan lee...gave him a minicomic too!

I once got kissed by Iyari Limon (Kennedy from Buffy The Vampire Slayer season 7.) in the green room at Dragon*Con '03... She was drunk at the time but that totally means both I am SO in as a cast member if the show ever comes back, and Iyari and I have been married since 2003. :p

Rick logic is bizzare

Gail Simone
03-09-2007, 11:36 AM
hee hee hee. What a dumbshit.

Christ, he doesn't even need us, he just makes himself look like a sub-literate moron all on his own. It's actually gotten FUNNIER since he can't post here.

Man, I can't even count all the stuff that is just plain incomprehensible in that.

But 'token writer of the 90's?'

What the hell? I didn't do any writing at all really until 2001.

Weird.

But illiterate and rant-y!


Hey, Rick! Did you ask mommy to borrow money for your fake con no one is attending and will be cancelled shortly prior to showdate?


Dance, sub-literate monkey! Dance!

:)


Gail

Papergirl
03-09-2007, 11:43 AM
Dance, sub-literate monkey! Dance!

Gail!!! Stop being mean to sub-literate monkeys!!!

~Bev

Calliope's Comics
03-09-2007, 11:48 AM
Isn't there a buddhist question that goes something like this:

If you hold a convention and no one comes does it still count for the next non-convention you will hold numbering wise.





*******
BTW Calliope Con # 381 is happening today until 5 PM when I close the shop to prepare for tomorrows Calliope Con #382. Register now. I will only accept gold dubloons sent via next day air mail as payment. Upon receipt of payment you will be given encrypted directions to the convention as well as a cipher to be decoded to figure out the guest list.

the4thpip
03-09-2007, 11:55 AM
Butch Guice once gave me.... DINNER! ;) :p

Well, Butch Guice gave me directions to where to find Dale Eaglesham so my boyfriend and I could have dinner with Dale.

God, this is getting pathetic! :p

TomStillwell
03-09-2007, 11:59 AM
My grandmother babysat Cheryl Ladd.

Blake Petit
03-09-2007, 12:04 PM
Anyway, I figured I'd clear up the small misunderstanding and I knew that Chis Williams has been a participant on the libelous CBR YABS thread. You know, the one that "Gail Simone", token female comic book writer of the 90's, gives everyone a chance to read and marvel at her shite spinning her cohorts. But I figured, well until the facts come out on what took place last summer to fall with my TightLip Entertainment company ... nobody has the whole picture and facts to have an informed and educated opinion. People really are easily led by their nose in some places.

For some reason, this cracks me up more than anything else in the rant. Somebody show this man a calendar.

You think she'll still be the "token of the 90s" when she's receiving her 2011 Fan Awards?

Sean_Jackson
03-09-2007, 12:19 PM
His grasp of the english language continues to inspire all...

Oh, I can't wait for Chris to find out about this... Olney demonstrates every day that he know to piss off just the right people.

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 12:19 PM
I like how he uses the word "facts" to mean "shit I made up so as not to look like a lying cheat."

I caught that 90s thing too... I guess he's counting your YABS columns before working at Marvel as being a comic book writer. Or who knows maybe he's just going to call every female comic creator "gail" from now on.

I sort of imagine him in a straigh jacket going "It wasn't me! it was Gail! Gail! Gail!"

As for what happened to his "company" last summer.. Isn't interesting that he is talking about the past summer and not the crap that's been going on since 2004.

:p

Sarah Beach
03-09-2007, 12:31 PM
Ye Gods, it's irresistable! And he thinks he can get anywhere in a business that relies on command of language!

Originally posted by The Fount of all Wisdom & Knowledge - brought to us courtesy of Danny Donovan--

Well, actually any person not knowing who Chris Williams is ...
versus what I meant by my remark -- wouldn't understand. Chris actually spends a lot of time on the road when the weather is nice. He's commented on it publicly before numerous times. Yet, in this instance he feels that it was placed at his feet as a slight. Not so.

Gee, you don't think it might be that you might have a reputation, Rick? You know, for being snide and nasty? You don't think that maybe people DO NOT TRUST A WORD YOU SAY? Ever?

Originally posted by Mr. The World Is the Way I Define It, Damnit!--
Anyway, I figured I'd clear up the small misunderstanding and I knew that Chis Williams has been a participant on the libelous CBR YABS thread.

You keep using that term "libelous", peanut, but I don't think it means what you think it means. PROVE IT! -- Oh, that's right, you CAN'T. No matter how many times you stick that label on this thread, you can't make it stay stuck. IT'S NOT LIBEL IF IT'S TRUE! Get over it and find another adjective.

The thing about Gail I won't even bother with. Others have pegged the silliness of it already!

Originally posted by History is MINE to Shape, Damnit!--
But I figured, well until the facts come out on what took place last summer to fall with my TightLip Entertainment company ... nobody has the whole picture and facts to have an informed and educated opinion. People really are easily led by their nose in some places.

First: after all this time, what are these new, hidden, mysterious "facts" that are due to come out that will totally change our perception of history? Oh, please! You've already played all your legitimate cards (like the deaths in your family) and discovered that that still doesn't excuse your behavior. You don't got no more cards up your sleeve, ya dirty stinkin' card-cheat. Give it up.

And if people are REALLY so "easily lead by their nose", how come you seem incapable of leading anyone anywhere? You are completely incompetent at communication and leadership. You're merely a manipulative little slimeball.

From Mr. Doesn't Understand Where Phrases Come From--
They pretty much braved new paths in opening up the Intenet to online marketing, and that allowed other publishers both large and small to walk in their 'footsteps' in that respect.

Now, although "braved new paths" is an odd turn of phrase, objectively, it's not too bad. But as one continues, we discover that the writer did not actually intend a fresh usage. The references to "opening up" the way, and having others follow in "footsteps" indicate that the writer actually meant blazed new paths - referring to the frontier practice of marking paths in the wilderness by cutting marks, called "blazes" in trees for those who come after them.

Alas, for the English language.

Another offering from I Live to Misuse the English Language--
By June 2004, CrossGen shuttered their doors and sold off everything to Disney for a million dollars.

One SHUTS doors, and SHUTTERS windows. Just sayin'.

From Mr. Oblivious to Irony--
Well, it is easy to peek into a window and critique a person. While Mark Alessi did stop paying people it could be that we'll never know the various and sundry details. He certainly wasn't into drama, nor would he ever lower himself (as some readily do) to interact with people that shoot their mouth's off first and ask question after.

Unlike.... YOU, perhaps, oh peanut? Drama? Check. Lowering himself? Check (surprising as it is, yes you actually descend from your human upright position to crawl and wiggle through the muck). "Interact with people" who express their personal opinions as is their right? (Translation: Stomp on people who say anything bad about me) Check.

It's very clear: You are no Mark Alessi, in any fashion, peanut. He at least actually did get some books published.

From Mr. I'm Shocked I Tell You, Shocked!--
And I then hit the post button to -- you guessed it -- be told that I have to be a 'member' of that website to post comments. See how easily people are swayed? Frankly, who would really want to converse with people like that? Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset, hurt, or angry. I just chalk it up to the underlying infection that keeps lots of people away from websites like this, and certainly turns them off to exploring comic books, sequential art, or anything in trade or graphic book format. And that makes me sad. Because where is it written that we all have to think alike, understand each other instantly, or be rude to each other?

I would weep if it weren't so silly! He's bugged that he has to be a registered member to POST? And then snipes that THAT (which is a reasonable precaution to avoid some spambots) keeps people from interacting and discussing things? Mr. You have to be approved by me to even READ most of my thoughts!

If it were cleverer, it could be a circus act! Juggling words! Which one will break next? Except that it's not even clever. :eek:

Gail Simone
03-09-2007, 12:33 PM
I like how he uses the word "facts" to mean "shit I made up so as not to look like a lying cheat."

I caught that 90s thing too... I guess he's counting your YABS columns before working at Marvel as being a comic book writer. Or who knows maybe he's just going to call every female comic creator "gail" from now on.

I sort of imagine him in a straigh jacket going "It wasn't me! it was Gail! Gail! Gail!"

As for what happened to his "company" last summer.. Isn't interesting that he is talking about the past summer and not the crap that's been going on since 2004.

:p



Even so, I wrote like two months of colums in the nineties and that's IT. Nobody even started reading Yabs til 2000 and my first pro work was quite a bit later.


Of course, Rick IS an idiot...maybe he doesn't understand decades?

Gail

Matt Doc Martin
03-09-2007, 12:37 PM
Poor cockroach...can't post here and now he tries to be snarky on his pathetic blog...

You suck, Rick.

Taken any more money from kids with cancer?

Nice picture, by the way, of where you will be living when the courts get done taking everything from you.

Loser.

amboy00
03-09-2007, 12:45 PM
"I read the article created by Stefan Halley, reproduced here for your perusal review:"

I don't recall ever giving Rick permission to reproduce content from my site. He copied and pasted Stefan's article on his own blog and he should take it down (anyone have a copy of one of these famous C&D's).

"Chris actually spends a lot of time on the road when the weather is nice. He's commented on it publicly before numerous times."

I write about being on the road? Were these posts made from my LiveJournal account, or my column, or the myriad of comments I leave on the interewebs? That fact must have come directly from his ass.

"So I logged back in at www.popsyndicate.com and write my reply:"

Grammar aside, Rick never had the opportunity to log back in. I immediately banned him. CBR might not have a problem having Rick act like the village idiot, but I have no tolerance for him. He made his one and only comment on PopSyndicate.com at 2007-03-08 05:36 PM and hasn't been able to log back in since.

Sarah Beach
03-09-2007, 12:49 PM
Oh. My. God. Just when I thought he couldn't get any more stupid!

Curious about Matt's remark about residences, I went over to the blog of the whaleflesh. And there's a post titled "My buddy, the Absurd One". That's where he posts the picture. But other than a cryptic comment above the picture, there's no indication that what is posted below is from anyone other than himself!!!!

(Hey, Stupid! You need to CITE who it is you're quoting. Especially if you're trying to make some sort of sarcastic joke about their comments. Otherwise it looks like YOU'RE talking and that card-board box is YOURS.)

Dang, the ijit even needs lessons on Put-Downs, Saracasm and Insults! What a waste of space.

Matt Doc Martin
03-09-2007, 12:51 PM
Oh. My. God. Just when I thought he couldn't get any more stupid!

Curious about Matt's remark about residences, I went over to the blog of the whaleflesh. And there's a post titled "My buddy, the Absurd One". That's where he posts the picture. But other than a cryptic comment above the picture, there's no indication that what is posted below is from anyone other than himself!!!!

(Hey, Stupid! You need to CITE who it is you're quoting. Especially if you're trying to make some sort of sarcastic joke about their comments. Otherwise it looks like YOU'RE talking and that card-board box is YOURS.)

Dang, the ijit even needs lessons on Put-Downs, Saracasm and Insults! What a waste of space.
Now remember...you going to his blog means he is "popular", by his reckoning.

I view it like a trip to the asshat zoo. The advantages? It's free. The disadvantages? It is just full of asshats.

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 12:52 PM
Even so, I wrote like two months of colums in the nineties and that's IT. Nobody even started reading Yabs til 2000 and my first pro work was quite a bit later.


Of course, Rick IS an idiot...maybe he doesn't understand decades?

Gail

TRUE! But you could call down to Marvel and tell them

"You know Rick Olney, the man who is a living repository of truth about comics said I've been working professionally since the mid 90s, but I seem to not have recieved any monies from you for that period so perhaps you could just slap my name on some reprints of Kurt Busiek's material and send out my usual page rate for the years you missed... As you know Rick always tells the truth. Thanks"

But I think it is a bit of a decade confusion for the grounded (we're not allowed to use the phrase "Beached" anymore!) sea mammal.

Papergirl
03-09-2007, 12:55 PM
"I read the article created by Stefan Halley, reproduced here for your perusal review:"

I don't recall ever giving Rick permission to reproduce content from my site. He copied and pasted Stefan's article on his own blog and he should take it down (anyone have a copy of one of these famous C&D's).

"Chris actually spends a lot of time on the road when the weather is nice. He's commented on it publicly before numerous times."

I write about being on the road? Were these posts made from my LiveJournal account, or my column, or the myriad of comments I leave on the interewebs? That fact must have come directly from his ass.

"So I logged back in at www.popsyndicate.com and write my reply:"

Grammar aside, Rick never had the opportunity to log back in. I immediately banned him. CBR might not have a problem having Rick act like the village idiot, but I have no tolerance for him. He made his one and only comment on PopSyndicate.com at 2007-03-08 05:36 PM and hasn't been able to log back in since.
Just a note: Dick has been banned from CBR. We had more than enough of his asshattery here, too.

~Bev

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 12:56 PM
Now he attacks Tony...

I'm not even going to repost what he said about Doc or Tony...

There are just no words.

rummblestrips
03-09-2007, 01:00 PM
Now he attacks Tony...

I'm not even going to repost what he said about Doc or Tony...

There are just no words.

No kidding. He's lost it, he really has.

The most amusing thing about myspace is when I looked up Rick Olney, about 6 other things came up before his page and all of them were about what a scumbag Rick is.

Coppervale Studio
03-09-2007, 01:00 PM
Now he attacks Tony...

I'm not even going to repost what he said about Doc or Tony...

There are just no words.

What? Where?

Matt Doc Martin
03-09-2007, 01:02 PM
What? Where?

At the Asshat Zoo...I mean, his blog.

Danny Donovan
03-09-2007, 01:04 PM
No kidding. He's lost it, he really has.

The most amusing thing about myspace is when I looked up Rick Olney, about 6 other things came up before his page and all of them were about what a scumbag Rick is.

You're next Joanne! just wait for him to either find some really gross animated porn of Arcee from Transformers, or just his general porn stash he pulls out for Sarah.

:p

To show what a BIG thing this has been Unscrewed! got a mention over at Ain't-It-Cool-News.

;)

What? Where?

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=59528410&MyToken=18f564a2-9cc3-46c4-b521-76cb33109b3cML

Kurt Busiek
03-09-2007, 01:06 PM
I once rode in an elevator at the same time as stan lee...gave him a minicomic too!

The first time I ever met Stan Lee, it was in the men's underwear section of a San Diego department store.

We had both underpacked for Comicon.

kdb

Matt Doc Martin
03-09-2007, 01:11 PM
The first time I ever met Stan Lee, it was in the men's underwear section of a San Diego department store.

We had both underpacked for Comicon.

kdb

From what I know of Stan Lee, the ladies probably kept stealing his underwear.

The man is a STONE COLD PIMP!

Rick could tell us for sure..Him and Stan are tight like brothers! Hell, they may have even spoken to one another!

Draconomicon
03-09-2007, 01:12 PM
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=59528410&MyToken=18f564a2-9cc3-46c4-b521-76cb33109b3cML

...I lost braincells just by looking over that.
He really thinks he is funny with some of those comments?
Does he recognize that they dont even seem to make much sense?

Oh, wait..I get it. He tries to be 'witty', doesnt he?
... seriously, that was just plain bad what he wrote there.

It made at as much sense as walking out of the door, looking at the neighbours dog and shouting "PEDOPHILE!"
My mind cant wrap itself around the way he talks... it doesnt make sense.

ENGLISH, MR.OLNEY! SPEAK IT??