Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Gail Simone]

*Looks at watch*

Where's Reeky ? He shoulda replied by now.

Hmm... Probably hosing out his bunker.

Rinsing out his VAN OF JUSTICE!


Gail

[Cam63]

"She said...she...uh...she...that is...SHE WAS MEAN TO ME WHEN I CHEATED EVERYONE!"

Gail

That line and wearing a straitjacket over his brown 1970s suit and tie will possibly be the only thing that may help him.

[Wil Radcliffe]

I'm asking this in all seriousness... does anyone know how to contact the producers of The People's Court or Judge Judy? Might be worth looking into.

[Cam63]

Rinsing out his VAN OF JUSTICE!


Gail

Cripes, woman ! Don't give him any ideas for a series !

[Matt Algren]

I'm asking this in all seriousness... does anyone know how to contact the producers of The People's Court or Judge Judy? Might be worth looking into.Judge Judy submission form. (http://www.judgejudy.com/SubmitCase/submitcase.asp) This would be perfect for the show.

[Cam63]

I'm asking this in all seriousness... does anyone know how to contact the producers of The People's Court or Judge Judy? Might be worth looking into.

I think Reeky would go for it.

[OMAR]

I'm asking this in all seriousness... does anyone know how to contact the producers of The People's Court or Judge Judy? Might be worth looking into.

I dont' think so... both parties benefit financially from such appearances, don't they? That's no way to teach someone a lesson. I don't know how far they're willing to fly people in for those shows, but it seems like they'd find plenty of litigious folks in CA, where they are most likely filmed.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Judge Judy submission form. (http://www.judgejudy.com/SubmitCase/submitcase.asp) This would be perfect for the show.

Matt, thanks!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Holy mother of god.

"Dick" is insane.

Is that why you wanted my address, "Dick"? To make me part of you lawsuit? I just thought you wanted to be a peeper.

Will you whine here or your MySpace first?

Jackass.

[TCJohnson]

I dont' think so... both parties benefit financially from such appearances, don't they? That's no way to teach someone a lesson. I don't know how far they're willing to fly people in for those shows, but it seems like they'd find plenty of litigious folks in CA, where they are most likely filmed.

I am not sure about Judge Judy, but people's court is filmed in NYC.

[Matt Algren]

I dont' think so... both parties benefit financially from such appearances, don't they? That's no way to teach someone a lesson. I don't know how far they're willing to fly people in for those shows, but it seems like they'd find plenty of litigious folks in CA, where they are most likely filmed.IIRC, the judgment comes out of the defendant's appearance compensation. In other words, the higher the judgment, the less the defendant gets paid.

Seriously, you could have Olney week on Judge Judy.

[matterconsumer]

Just wanted to thank Mark Waid for his brave and bold move to offer financial help!

[Cam63]

IIRC, the judgment comes out of the defendant's appearance fee.

Seriously, you could have Olney week on Judge Judy.

I think it'd run closer to a month or two.

[Cam63]

Just wanted to thank Mark Waid for his brave and bold move to offer financial help!

Yes, the bloke has reached " living legend " status. :)

[matterconsumer]

Yes, the bloke has reached " living legend " status. :)

and without even a VAN OF JUSTICE!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yes, the bloke has reached " living legend " status. :)

I can see it now: " 'Living Legend Mark Waid' once mentioned me! BUY MY BOOKS! Please?" "Dick" Olney's TightLip entertainment

[matterconsumer]

and I suppose it's only a matter of time before he sues Marvel for the use of

BULLSEYE!

[THEDOC]

Hey Raph! Best wishes with your con building efforts in 2007 and beyond!

Wow... you really are late for this party. Quick, read a few posts back and jum in anywhere to boost that count up. Man, it has been a few days since we saw a newbie here. Welcome onboard! "Gail" sends her love! Maybe, if we play this right -- We can get Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, and "Gail Simone" to guest at your next con GRATIS! Go ahead, you and DOC ask them! They're noce peple. Just don't forget to pick "Gail's" ass up in a sweet smelling honda. ;)

At least he tried with his shows which were very good. Even in the face of losing money Raf still put on a heck of a last show. Gail would had been treated great at his show if she had been there. What have you done lately, 'cept slander people and show what a small mind you have.

[Cam63]

I can see it now: " 'Living Legend Mark Waid' once mentioned me! BUY MY BOOKS! Please?" "Dick" Olney's TightLip entertainment

That's funny, 'cause it'd probably happen.

Hell, it's funny if it doesn't !

[Cam63]

Oh and you're lucky Reeky didn't make you ride in the car trunk when he gave you a lift, Gail.

Hmm... Well, that may've been an improvement in olefactory comfort at least.

[matterconsumer]

What Gail really wants is a ride in his VAN OF JUSTICE!

I can hear her orgasmic throes from here :)

[Matt Doc Martin]

All his explanations and machinations start to look like a bad episode of "I Love Lucy".



Oh, Ricky..........

[Jack Venooker]

Talk about "as The Worm Turns" Eh Mr Olney?

I must say, I'm smiling and smiling and smiling.

I'll be surprised if you don't actually find yourself karmically balanced after the legal dust from your latest shenanigans finally settles.

You really aren't very effective as a troll, as you are about to discover to your dismay.

Oldtimers probably remember me as Mr Olney's first "stalker". Actually my truthtelling and "pegging the nail on the head" about what a con artist he was and how unchecked, he would go on to "great things" should make me visionary.

Hi Rickie :D

[Jack Venooker]

I dont mean to spam, but this thread just makes me smile from ear to ear.

[Cam63]

Welcome to the party, Jack.

[TCJohnson]

SPAMMER!


DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

And welcome!

[Cam63]

Someone had his coffee.

[Gail Simone]

Talk about "as The Worm Turns" Eh Mr Olney?

I must say, I'm smiling and smiling and smiling.

I'll be surprised if you don't actually find yourself karmically balanced after the legal dust from your latest shenanigans finally settles.

You really aren't very effective as a troll, as you are about to discover to your dismay.

Oldtimers probably remember me as Mr Olney's first "stalker". Actually my truthtelling and "pegging the nail on the head" about what a con artist he was and how unchecked, he would go on to "great things" should make me visionary.

Hi Rickie :D



Jack, thanks for posting and welcome to the ever-growing club of people who have had to deal with this guy. Can you tell us a bit more about what your experience was?

Gail

[Bright-Raven]

Hey guys.

I spoke with a nice police officer in Mohawk Township, New York earlier today. They are a very tiny department - only four officers on staff. The officer was very nice and called me long distance and spoke with me for quite some time about this matter after a brief online message asking for them to review this thread, which was not done officially as it is not their jurisdiction as they really don't get involved in internet matters unless all parties are located directly within the township.

After discussing the matter at length, the officer's advice in addition to any civil suit actions is for all aggrieved parties to file reports against Mr. Olney, Tightlip Entertainment, and whatever other organizations Mr. Olney is claiming connection to / ownership of, to the New York State Better Business Bureau. If Mr. Olney is found to not have registered these businesses properly or there are enough complaints (and we all know there are more than enough), then the BBB may consider investigative action in conjunction with legal authorities in New York State.

He further advises Matt Martin to print out the threats of physical violence Mr. Olney made towards him on this thread and take it to his local state police for a formal report in conjunction with the New York State Police. He also advises that Rick Veitch and any other online website moderators / controllers - be it from Dixonverse, CBR, or elsewhere - to take any similar natured threats Olney has ever made on your boards, if you still have record of it, and file a formal report also in similar fashion. If there is a pattern behavior of written threatened violence, the authorities will gladly conduct a formal investigation of Mr. Olney in relation to these threats, on the grounds that I previously suggested to Matt here - Mr. Olney might not be a threat to you personally, but if he were to show up at a public gathering like a convention and innocent bystanders were to get hurt... thus Mr. Olney may be considered a viable threat to others and / or himself. Thus, the officer agrees an investigation in the interests of preemptive action may be in order, but you all have to do the filing before anyone else can proceed.

He further advised a full presentation of this thread and all other related matters of Mr. Olney's non-payment and other behaviors be presented to the fraud division of the New York State Police, and barring that, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, for formal review and consideration of criminal investigation.

Just FYI.

[TomStillwell]

At least he tried with his shows which were very good. Even in the face of losing money Raf still put on a heck of a last show. Gail would had been treated great at his show if she had been there. What have you done lately, 'cept slander people and show what a small mind you have.

That's exactly the case. Raf is a hell of a guy for his efforts. Gail would have had a blast at the last Comic Book Marketplace. Don Kramer, Mike Norton, guys like Big LaMorris Richmond, yourself Doc, even some little peon like me.:D

[Perry Holley]

I'm just still here waiting to hear what the hell a "plebe" is supposed to be.I think they're somehow related to "lebians".

[TomStillwell]

What Gail really wants is a ride in his VAN OF JUSTICE!

I can hear her orgasmic throes from here :)

Orgasmic Throes was the name of the band I fronted for in college.

Now I'm wondering if the reek isn't caused by all the GOVERNMENT CHEESE Rick eats in his JUSTICE VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER?!!!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Bright Raven, you were once listed on "Dick's" blog where he quoted you in n attempt to fortify his position. I am guessing you are no longer welcome there now.

Thank you. I will effort that tomorrow.

[Cam63]

Hey, we're lebians !

That's a goooooood thing.

[matterconsumer]

Orgasmic Throes was the name of the band I fronted for in college.

Now I'm wondering if the reek isn't caused by all the GOVERNMENT CHEESE Rick eats in his JUSTICE VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER?!!!

Orca fresh? When's the last time anyone encountered a friendly smelling orca?

Especially drivin' his VAN OF JUSTICE!

No wonder it needs a frequent rinse...

and battlin' with Busiek, the Aquaman writer...the irony just kills!

[matterconsumer]

I'm just still here waiting to hear what the hell a "plebe" is supposed to be.


It's a Roman thing, a plebeian --- a common person.

If we were sophisticates then we'd describe ole orca as a persona non gratis but then we don't drive the VAN OF JUSTICE!

[amboy00]

Oh. I guess its a good thing I didn't take him up on his offer then.

Hi Chris,
Wondering if you'd like to re-design my website for me? Let me know. Thanks.

Regards,
~Rick
That was back in October before this blew up even further. It was kind for Ronée to give me as a reference, but I would have hated it had he claimed I failed to return my NDA forms as well.

Kind of an odd defense when you think about it. You would have someone do work for you, without signing an NDA form, but then use that as a reason to not pay them.

I guess there is an excuse for everything though.

[kingdom2000]

I guess whomever is keeping your tally will place those facts -- allowed to you as the financial backer of the aggrieved -- when the time comes, Mr. Waid.

See... contrary to what is being talked about broadly here, you do not have all the facts. So, from a mere point of speculation -- this matter is most likely going to need some sort of fund raising group all its own in order to extricate a few of these talents.

But for now, I really must leave this message thread and website. Thank you.

I see Rick is still vomiting words everywhere and doing it poorly. Also seems based on some of his posts he actually read some of the legal rumifications, probably verified by his "lawyer" and then preceded to ignore any advice a lawyer would give such as doing something about the vomiting. Most people stop digging at 6 feet...

[websbestcomics]

Talk about "as The Worm Turns" Eh Mr Olney?

I must say, I'm smiling and smiling and smiling.

I'll be surprised if you don't actually find yourself karmically balanced after the legal dust from your latest shenanigans finally settles.

You really aren't very effective as a troll, as you are about to discover to your dismay.

Oldtimers probably remember me as Mr Olney's first "stalker". Actually my truthtelling and "pegging the nail on the head" about what a con artist he was and how unchecked, he would go on to "great things" should make me visionary.

Hi Rickie :D

'Con artist' is the term I would use to best describe him. In answer to OMAR, I had never heard of Olney before I was hired by him. A good friend of mine referred him to me, and so I had no reason to suspect anything. And keep in mind that my friend, who is a comics industry vet, was also similarly duped by Olney. He was, I believe, acting on the best information he had at the time, and like everyone else was a victim of Olney's lies. It's sometimes hard to understand how someone can get tricked when you are outside of it, looking in after the facts are presented.

Both of the projects I was hired for had tight deadline requirements, and with the comic job, his rates were comparable to the top publishers. So these factors all played a part in agreeing to working for him. I think if I had had more time, and the referance had come from an unknown source, I would certainly have done at least a cursory research on the man.

Looking back on this, there were red flags that went up around Olney right from the beginning, which I should have acted upon. But keep in mind also that not everyone who works in comics is well acquainted with the online comics community and forums. I've spent far longer on this forum than in any forum I have ever been on. And the only reason I started posting here at all was to defend against Olney's lies and make others aware that the claims of nonpayment are very real.

As they say, hindsight is 20/20. But I do really feel robbed, kind of like a tourist who gets his wallet pickpocketed while buying a fake watch.

[Cam63]

I'd honestly feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a nasty wanker.

[Bright-Raven]

Matt:

I've no idea what Mr. Olney attempted to claim by falsely misquoting me on his blog, nor do I particularly care. I have never been to and have no interest in his blogs.

I'm sure if Mr. Olney and his attorney want to file some sort of legal grievance, I and my attorney will receive the paperwork soon enough. (My attorney is salivating as I type this.)

[websbestcomics]

Oh. I guess its a good thing I didn't take him up on his offer then.

[QUOTE]That was back in October before this blew up even further. It was kind for Ronée to give me as a reference, but I would have hated it had he claimed I failed to return my NDA forms as well.

That's interesting. So he was trying to hire you while he was still owing me money, and promising to pay me to continue working on the site redesign? When in October did he contact you?

Kind of an odd defense when you think about it. You would have someone do work for you, without signing an NDA form, but then use that as a reason to not pay them.

I guess there is an excuse for everything though.

It's called blackmail. He's trying to force people to sign a contract after they did the work, or they won't get paid. Which is illegal.

[Cam63]

Very illegal, which is one of the reasons he's a nasty wanker.

[Kurt Busiek]

It's a Roman thing, a plebeian --- a common person.

Also, "plebe" refers to first-year students at West Point, Annapolis and a couple of other military schools, probably derived from "plebian." Plebes are the bottom rung of the autority structure, subject to snap quizzes, orders and a meant-to-be-circumscribed level of hazing from more advanced students. He's affecting military-school speak to try to dismiss those pointing out his frauds as nobodies, beneath his notice. The mistake he's making, of course is that in any military academy, plebes merit respect within the hierarchy, while cheaters are scorned.

Outside of military-school jargon, the term is used more often as "pleb." Though that tends to be more British/Australian use than American.

kdb

[Matt Doc Martin]

Also, "plebe" refers to first-year students at West Point, Annapolis and a couple of other military schools, probably derived from "plebian." Plebes are the bottom rung of the autority structure, subject to snap quizzes, orders and a meant-to-be-circumscribed level of hazing from more advanced students. He's affecting military-school speak to try to dismiss those pointing out his frauds as nobodies, beneath his notice. The mistake he's making, of course is that in any military academy, plebes merit respect within the hierarchy, while cheaters are scorned.

Outside of military-school jargon, the term is used more often as "pleb." Though that tends to be more British/Australian use than American.

kdb

Well, we have already determined that he makes a lousy Marine.

[Jeff Brady]

P.P.S.: And speaking of black humor...Hey, Rick, if you're SOOOOO starving for public attention, take a lesson out of poor ol' George (PENTHOUSE COMIX) Caragonne's playbook. Now THAT guy really knew how to get everyone's attention! Try it! You're guaranteed of making every funnybook news site on the Internet. But be warned; it only works ONCE. >Ker-SPLAT!< -- SS!

Heh. I know a couple of guys who worked for George.

How many Hefty bags did they need to clean up his body?

[MacQuarrie]

It's a Roman thing, a plebeian --- a common person.
That's what a plebe IS. I want to know what "Dick" thinks it is.

[Cam63]

Outside of military-school jargon, the term is used more often as "pleb." Though that tends to be more British/Australian use than American.

kdb

I hear " pleb " down here occasionally, but it's fading from the venacular.

[Cam63]

Well, we have already determined that he makes a lousy Marine.

You never know, he may've been a great marine back then.

However, what he is today is not what a marine stands for.

[MacQuarrie]

One of the characters is called, "Globe."

Gail

Yeah, and the other two are "Eagle" and "Anchor"...

Gee, I wonder where he got the idea for those?

http://www.popasmoke.com/downloads/MarineEmblemJcopy.jpg
I guess his time as a Marine was good for something after all.

[TCJohnson]

Someone had his coffee.

At least I drink real coffee as opposed to some latte drinking pinko commie scum I can think of!

That's right, I went there!

[Wil Radcliffe]

Well, it's a good thing he never worked for Wal-Mart. That smiley face would make for one boring comic book character!

:)

[TCJohnson]

Yeah, and the other two are "Eagle" and "Anchor"...

Gee, I wonder where he got the idea for those?

http://www.popasmoke.com/downloads/MarineEmblemJcopy.jpg
I guess his time as a Marine was good for something after all.

Ok...I admit it.....I am impressed that you caught that.

[Cam63]

That's what a plebe IS. I want to know what "Dick" thinks it is.

He must think it means " scum " or " arse kisser. "

[Wil Radcliffe]

He must think it means " scum " or " arse kisser. "

Then that's why he hates Gail?

[Crowley]

You know...

until this thread I HAD NO IDEA that all law
is hinged on the NDA (non disclosure agreement)

but then I went back through the history books
and discovered this exchange:

http://www.classic-literature.co.uk/american-authors/19th-century/abraham-lincoln/abraham-lincoln.gif

"Free the SLAVES!"

http://www.nndb.com/people/930/000049783/robert-e-lee-sm.jpg

"Can't! They didn't sign their NDA!"


http://www.federalobserver.com/content_images/moses_heston_3.jpg

"LET MY PEOPLE GO!"

http://www.angelfire.com/ks3/sillypooh12/YuleBrenner1.jpg

"NO! Not until they sign the NDA!"

[Scott Shaw!]

Heh. I know a couple of guys who worked for George.

How many Hefty bags did they need to clean up his body?

Well, I certainly meant no disrespect to George Caragonne's memory. I only met him once or twice and I was impressed with his friendliness and enthusiasm, on first impression, a great guy.

But from what I've heard from friends and coworkers of George's, drugs and insurmountable debt took their toll until George felt there was no way out. And although cocaine had fried his brain, the way he committed suicide was all about George; he obviously wanted to leave this reality in a manner that was attention-getting and dramatic in the extreme. George was about my size, as I recall -- and I weigh well over 300 pounds -- so the aftermath of his multi-story swan dive onto the ground floor garden area -- where a party was in progress -- of a highrise hotel must have been utterly and inescapably horrific. I hear that there are witnesses to his selfish suicide who are still in therapy to get over having liquified comic book editor splattered across their faces.

George may have been a wonderful person, but thanks to his desperate need for attention, he not only ended his own life but ruined those of many others. And as for his place in funnybook history, he's only remembered as "that asshole who committed suicide in the worst imaginable way".

Are you taking notes, Rick Olney? (About something other than my weight?) You really need to do something about your problems with debt, honesty and being the center of attention before you're driven to do something like George did.

Or, in some weird way, is that exactly what you're trying to do here -- killing your reputation?

Aloha,

Scott!

[Cam63]

You know...

until this thread I HAD NO IDEA that all law
is hinged on the NDA (non disclosure agreement)

but then I went back through the history books
and discovered this exchange:

http://www.classic-literature.co.uk/american-authors/19th-century/abraham-lincoln/abraham-lincoln.gif

"Free the SLAVES!"

http://www.nndb.com/people/930/000049783/robert-e-lee-sm.jpg

"Can't! They didn't sign their NDA!"


http://www.federalobserver.com/content_images/moses_heston_3.jpg

"LET MY PEOPLE GO!"

http://www.angelfire.com/ks3/sillypooh12/YuleBrenner1.jpg

"NO! Not until they sign the NDA!"

Ha ! Funny !

[SUPERECWFAN1]

With the Corries coming up this is a lock to win Best Thread of 2006. It has all the fun to make it. With Industry heavywieghts like Mark Waid , Kurt Busiek and Gail Simone wieghing in against someone. When the guy who wrote Kingdom Come shows up and offers to battle you , ya know its reaching a status not seen on CBR in awhile.


MacQuarrie here is Waid's current books and someone can correct me if I'm wrong.


Supergirl & the Legion of Superheroes
Brave & the Bold ( starting in Jan. or Feb.)


I'm awaiting Brave and Bold with a hunger unforseen. As a guy collecting the old B & B series I can't wait to see all the cool teamups. Jonah Hex & Batman soon ? :p

[TomStillwell]

God, Rick Oweme's latest blog is a total and utter disconnect from reality.

It's like a convicted serial rapist believing that he'd make a great candidate to work in a home for battered women.

[Gail Simone]

I just wanna say that no one really wants Rick (or anyone) to leap from a building!

We just want the people he's stiffed to get paid!

Gail

[matterconsumer]

Agreed!

Also please spare the VAN OF JUSTICE!...and the Marines!

[THEDOC]

I can see it now: " 'Living Legend Mark Waid' once mentioned me! BUY MY BOOKS! Please?" "Dick" Olney's TightLip entertainment

"Rick" (A legend in his own mind) Olney

[Cam63]

I just wanna say that no one really wants Rick (or anyone) to leap from a building!

We just want the people he's stiffed to get paid!

Gail

He'd sue the poor guy he landed on.

[THEDOC]

and I suppose it's only a matter of time before he sues Marvel for the use of BULLSEYE!

And he will sue Simon and Kirby as well for their old cowboy/indian version even though "Rick" wasn't born yet but hey it's "Rick"!.

[matterconsumer]

That's what a plebe IS. I want to know what "Dick" thinks it is.

I suppose that we should salute our commanding officer!

That is if I can stop laughing long enough to get up off the ground...

[matterconsumer]

And he will sue Simon and Kirby as well for their old cowboy/indian version even though "Rick" wasn't born yet but hey it's "Rick"!.

Ahhh...good one!

[THEDOC]

That's exactly the case. Raf is a hell of a guy for his efforts. Gail would have had a blast at the last Comic Book Marketplace. Don Kramer, Mike Norton, guys like Big LaMorris Richmond, yourself Doc, even some little peon like me.:D
Well not to Spam but if I could I would pay to have her come to The Jam in March. Raf is a great guy and I thought possibly he was out of comics but he is around again so I want him to help IF. I hope you can make it Tom, no one is a peon in my book.
"Rick" never called my friends about the 2004 MMC which he REALLY wanted them there, (I think that was it so don't get your tights in a bunch if I am wrong "Rick", though you will point it out.:D ) I had to do calling and get some confirmations then "Rick" never came through.

[THEDOC]

From the Blob.. I mean Blog:
I want these projects to lead to bigger and better things. I have my foot on the bottom rung of the comics' ladder and want to start making my way up it. And the best way to do that is to prove to people that TightLip Entertainment delive! I'm a writer and entertainment company owner that they can trust to get the job done.

Is "delive" even a word?

[Matt Doc Martin]

From the Blob.. I mean Blog:


Is "delive" even a word?

I would offer to be his editor, as he desperately needs one, but I'd have to ask to be paid up front. You know...just in case he never pays me.

[THEDOC]

I want a NDA (Non-Disillusion Agreement) from Rick before he posts again, as I have been disappointed enough by him to last all of 2007.

[Ronée]

Only his promo copy, which is some of the dumbest, most impenetrable stuff I've ever had the displeasure to read.

When I commented on it, he tried to blame Ronee, who'd had nothing to do with it and writes a thousand times better in her sleep than Olney could channeling the ghost of Hemingway.

And I love how he's trying to convey that anyone actually is ASKING for his stuff rather than it all, every speck, being for a made-up vanity imprint where no one was actually PAID.

Delusions are neat.

GailThanks for that Gail... of course I'm still wondering what this guy in LITG meant by saying that this got people to feel sorry for me and that's a feat... WTF is that about?

[Ronée]

Scott:

I wasn't planning on coming back here to post, as I was told that some of what has been mentioned in this thread constitutes a legal presentation. But, contrary to any of that, I wanted to reply directly to your above post.

I sent you the last 3 emails attempting to do as I was directed to do. In short, we were trying, attempting to talk to you about the website matter. As I told you back then, your website work --contrary to your position of thinking BOTH projects were contractual and payable together -- was separate of your comics work. There were no harrassing emails. My attorney has copies of your requests and later unrealistic demands. The attorney that you hired from Ilion, New York was very understanding and fully agreed with our presentment to him regarding your 'images' not constituting your 1/2 agreed upon completed work to be paid 1/2 your agreed upon notion that pulling images and slapping them on a template somehow fulfilled YOUR creative obligation -- and YOU wrote that contract, sir! -- So I take no credit there.

Additionally, if you have hired another attorney -- We've not seen or heard from him/her. Please expedite that asap, as I have a countersuit awaiting your pleasure. Again, much of this thread is just a compilation of "Gail Simone's" negative orgasmic throes ... combined with her plebe followers (and I really mean no disrespect,) but trolls and stalkers are just that to anyone that can differentiate between the two.

I was instructed to further explain to you that your website work was not to our liking and approval based only on your (after-the-fact) presentation of the images you provided.

Additionally, you violated your non disclosure agreement, and the confidentiality clause in your contract. Yoiu you are also on that short list of talents that need to have their interactions and due bills adjudicated. Hopefully, many people here will employ you to have their future websites created. Your abilities just did not fit the image of what TightLip Entertainment was seeking for its MMC refit. Thank you.Come on Rick, I was there for all of this AND you let me in on the emails... not only that but you had me looking at his work on the site that whole time and it was damn good, in fact, you seemed pretty tickled. And even if you felt the need to seperate the two projects, why not pay him for the work he did on the site? Which is above and beyond what you have now.

[THEDOC]

From the Blob.. I mean Blog:


Is "delive" even a word?

Found this on Google:

Analysis of the Troj/Delive-A Spyware Trojan, hmm makes me wonder......:confused: :confused: :confused: :eek:

[Mark Waid]

Okay. I’ve been contacted privately by a number of individuals who were never paid by Olney despite repeated, verifiable promises. I was astounded to learn how much he actually owes, but the indisputable fact is that he owes over twenty creators for his one completed-but-never-printed book, TALES OF THE SPOOKY (the title alone of which would have had Harvey Comics hunting him down). Chuck Dixon, Flint Henry, Sergio Cariello, Val Staples and many others were never paid for their completed work despite--again--totally verifiable, in-print promises of payments by deadlines that have long since passed. There is absolutely no excuse for this. None. Zero. A real man pays his debts, period. Anyone who doesn’t isn’t of our species. And, yes, I’m obviously still channelling some Alessi rage, thank you.

So, to clarify, my offer still stands. Be aware that I am not offering legal advice; I do not have the wherewithal to spearhead any sort of legal action, individual or aggregate, that’s up to you; and I trust you to be honest and come to me only if you truly have a claim but can’t afford the out-of-pocket expense to file one. That said, if you are on the list of creators owed money by Olney, can demonstrate nonpayment on his part, and the only thing standing between you and a fair shot at getting paid is that you literally can't afford to file a claim against him, I will stake that expense.

I can’t possibly afford for anyone to hire a lawyer whose fee will be more than is owed, but you don’t need a superlawyer for this. One of the creators who has already priced out the expense of filing a claim has contacted me, and I've urged him to reply here with some basic instructions for the rest of you, but in short:

Find a claims lawyer in the Yellow Pages. Advise him of the situation, tell him you need him to draft a letter demanding payment, then be prepared to call your local courthouse and find out how much it costs in your area to file a claim and to arrange for a summons to be delivered to the debtor. Then contact me. If you have a legitimate case (and, my God, from everything I've seen, you all do, unquestionably) and you’re willing to do everything required to file and file properly, I’ll pay the bill. If you win, you can pay me back. If not, because Olney has spent on some ambulance chaser the money he should have paid his creators, we’ll just have to chalk it up to the price of justice...but I just can’t deal with the idea that some artist or writer or colorist or letterer or whatever, who already has to scrape by to make ends meet, has to be out a month’s rent or has to feed his kids Hamburger Helper without the hamburger because he can’t afford to chase his debtor down. That’s unacceptable.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go write something that pays so I can afford to do this.

[THEDOC]

Mark Waid.. 2007 Man of the Year! :D

[Sarah Beach]

I would offer to be his editor, as he desperately needs one, but I'd have to ask to be paid up front. You know...just in case he never pays me.

Don't bother Matt. I'd initially made that offer myself (and I come cheap for a single page edit). But first off, it didn't occur to him that his precious header quote needed revising as much as the rest of that website page. Then he couldn't read my address on the invoice I sent him (yeah, right there in front of his nose). But then, since I was soooooo mean to him on Dixonverse -- well, I sent him a "Pro Forma Termination of Job Agreement" (because I didnt' want the agreement hanging around, since he wasn't going to cough up the $35). To which he responded with the really cutting (NOT!) remark that since he had at last seen my "true colors" there was no chance that I would ever work for TightLip.

Mind you... he hadn't said anything about that to me, until I beat him to the draw in "blowing off".

Reality was that by then there was no chance I would ever want to work for TightLip, not even to make his webpage readable. (Not an easy prospect, to my mind.)

[DocAbsurd]

Damn, I missed another Chernobyl, didn't I?

Could someone please do me a solid? If you have a few spare minutes (totaling into hours) could you find the post where Tricky 'Dick' says outright that the ICC is mine to do with as I please?

Daphne has already been down to our attorney's office and shown him Tricky's inflated and implied threats. He wants to see in print where he hands the creative reigns over to me so he can use that in court.

Oh, and Tricky, Gail was on 2 panels at your 'con'. The one I hosted had the better attendance, and the panelists and crowd all agreed that despite my being deathly ill, I managed to host a pretty decent panel.

Louis, we're taking your instructions to our attorney in the morning. Tricky just shyte, it's time to get off the pot.




Doc 'Red Alert' Absurd

[websbestcomics]

Come on Rick, I was there for all of this AND you let me in on the emails... not only that but you had me looking at his work on the site that whole time and it was damn good, in fact, you seemed pretty tickled. And even if you felt the need to seperate the two projects, why not pay him for the work he did on the site? Which is above and beyond what you have now.

Thank you, Ronee, for your help and honesty in this. It's appreciated.

[TCJohnson]

Thanks for that Gail... of course I'm still wondering what this guy in LITG meant by saying that this got people to feel sorry for me and that's a feat... WTF is that about?

I think he was referring to those rape stories you did and how some innocent people were suspected....know a lot of people weren't happy with you after that. :(

[OzBat!]

Mark Waid, uber mensch.

[TCJohnson]

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go write something that pays so I can afford to do this.

Again, Mr. Waid, I have a couple hundred I can donate to this cause if you need it.

What I can't stand is these guys are going without pay and Rick is acting like the victim.

[Mark Waid]

Thanks, TC. Let's see how this plays out and I'll be in touch. If you want to make the contribution out as if it comes from your dog, you should, 'cause it'll be fun to see Olney file a countersuit against him.

[TomStillwell]

Sure... no time like the present.




Yes, that is the reply I sent her from the first email she sent me via myspace.com. I though a reply was the courteous thing to do.



No, it is actually only $300 dollars and then that may even be wrong. But we can haggle whenever you're ready. There was never any offer to reimburse you on toys reviewed.



Yes, that's a fair description.



Yes, that is what I said. And I also apologized to you in an email and in a telephone message on your phone mail.



Well, I did make those early on efforts to apologize. But be that as it may, it obviously isn't going to solve your problems or curb your personal misery, Tim.



One man's trash is another man's treasure, Tim. Lance Boucher, I believe began his mixing in here over being removed from the MMC boards. As he rarely posted there, and as you both were such good friends ... I believed then as I believe now that he was actually saved a headache.



Yes, those are my words.



More power to you, pal! I never made any claim to the ICC logo. I'm not going to argue or even discuss semantics with you over how my views have changed about small press. Rob Sumner's about the only small press guy that I'd trust anymore. Him, Jim Main, maybe Wade. But I'm all done with small press groups, egroups, "cliques" ... too much of a headache. You take the ICC concept as you see it and build something out of it.



Yes, I said that.



Careful! Good tongue is hard to find! ;) Look -- I'm happy that you have a good woman in your life. Let's leave it at that. I'm not going to dignify the rest of your remark with a reply.



Yes, those are my words.



Sure thing, milk the drama right out of it. Misery loves company. You don't consider yourself a "unique personality" ... so be it. It was maent as a compliment. You want to take it as an insult. Whatever...

Here you go, Doc. Page 37.

[TomStillwell]

Thanks, TC. Let's see how this plays out and I'll be in touch. If you want to make the contribution out as if it comes from your dog, you should, 'cause it'll be fun to see Olney file a countersuit against him.

Mark, I'd be happy to chip in some funds too. My cat loves to sue the humans.

[Gail Simone]

Damn, I missed another Chernobyl, didn't I?

Could someone please do me a solid? If you have a few spare minutes (totaling into hours) could you find the post where Tricky 'Dick' says outright that the ICC is mine to do with as I please?

Daphne has already been down to our attorney's office and shown him Tricky's inflated and implied threats. He wants to see in print where he hands the creative reigns over to me so he can use that in court.

Oh, and Tricky, Gail was on 2 panels at your 'con'. The one I hosted had the better attendance, and the panelists and crowd all agreed that despite my being deathly ill, I managed to host a pretty decent panel.

Louis, we're taking your instructions to our attorney in the morning. Tricky just shyte, it's time to get off the pot.




Doc 'Red Alert' Absurd



I actually enjoyed the panel as I recall...it had a lot of female creators I wasn't familiar with. The problem was never the moderation or intent, the problem was the same problem with the entire con...it was so badly conceived that very few people actually showed to the convention and hence, even fewer to the panel.

The truth is, any panel with Heidi MacDonald on it is guaranteed interesting, anyway.


Gail

[Gail Simone]

Thanks, TC. Let's see how this plays out and I'll be in touch. If you want to make the contribution out as if it comes from your dog, you should, 'cause it'll be fun to see Olney file a countersuit against him.

He made my dog sign an NDA.

It was in the shape of kibble and my dog is unfamiliar with legal jargon.

Gail

[Sarah Beach]

Tim: Sorry, duh, I didn't think to get the pages.

Post #551, from 12-28

and

Post #973 from 12-31 (that's the one where he says "I hearily encourage you to do whatever you like... blah blah, with some sort of conditional threat dangling after it).

But I think those two help you.

[Gail Simone]

I like how he thinks he could still have a career after his behavior and threatening to sue everyone including Mark Waid.

Biggest delusion of all, right there.

Gail

[DocAbsurd]

BOO-yeah!

Thank you, Tom! That was exactly what I needed!

I'm copying and pasting the link directly to that posting to our attorney. I can hear him whistling a merry little tune already.




Doc 'Whistle While You Sue' Absurd

[TCJohnson]

Thanks, TC. Let's see how this plays out and I'll be in touch. If you want to make the contribution out as if it comes from your dog, you should, 'cause it'll be fun to see Olney file a countersuit against him.

I don't have a dog but I do have a three legged cat that is getting uppity.


Hmmm, is it ethical for me, after stating the thing i really hate about Olney is blames other people for all his problems, to frame my three legged cat for the action I take against Olney?


What the hell, I'll do it.

[TCJohnson]

I like how he thinks he could still have a career after his behavior and threatening to sue everyone including Mark Waid.

Biggest delusion of all, right there.

Gail

Well, it is not like you and Mark Waid are well known in the industry or have any friends there.

[JeffreyWKramer]

I don't have a dog but I do have a three legged cat that is getting uppity.


Hmmm, it is ethical for me, after stating the thing i really hate about Olney is blames other people for all his problems, to frame my three legged cat for the action I take against Olney!


What the hell, I'll do it.

See if you can get the cat to pee on Olney while you're at it.

Though it occurs to me that it's possible Olney might enjoy that sort of thing.

[JeffreyWKramer]

And to Mark Waid...

I've often enjoyed things you've written dating back to the AMAZING HEROES days, but it's really great by your pledge today to see that you're not only a talented guy, but also a gent of high moral character.

[Michael P]

About the only way this could get any better is if the Superman from Action Comics 1 held Rick over a ledge until he coughed up the money.

[DocAbsurd]

I actually enjoyed the panel as I recall...it had a lot of female creators I wasn't familiar with. The problem was never the moderation or intent, the problem was the same problem with the entire con...it was so badly conceived that very few people actually showed to the convention and hence, even fewer to the panel.

The truth is, any panel with Heidi MacDonald on it is guaranteed interesting, anyway.


Gail

See? It couldn't have been that bad if you remember what it was about. There were 5 panelists of women creators of note, including you, Heidi, JoAnne, and 2 others who's names utterly escape me at the moment. I never got much of a chance to talk to Heidi. I think she was put off by my association (at the time) with Tricky.

I did hear from several of the attending creators that vendors were actually complaining about the 3 panels that managed to get underway; seems they took away the precious few customers from buying.

I do recall I never got lunch because my panel ran during the break, and my 'perk' was amazingly over-looked. Breakfast was skipped because there were only 2 cars to shuttle all the guests from the Motel Bates over the 3 miles to the hall. The dinner for the first night was supposed to be an informal gathering of all the guests at some fairly decent restaurant; ended up as pizza and subs at a nearby take-away.

OMG, the memories are flooding back! Make them stop!

I do admit, I didn't complain; I went more for the company and connections.




Doc 'Flashback' Absurd

[TomStillwell]

About the only way this could get any better is if the Superman from Action Comics 1 held Rick over a ledge until he coughed up the money.

Would he be yelling "Papa Spank!" also?

[notintheface]

And yes, I have a pen name. I'm sorry that seems to baffle and confuse you. It takes a complete lack of understanding of publishing history to be so ASTONISHED by something so banal, but as you're so desperately trying to blame others for your repeated failures, I understand you don't have much to work with. Here's something for free...I also wear corrective lenses sometimes. OH, MY GOODNESS!


Gail"[/QUOTE]


(Gasp!!) A writer using a PEN NAME? My world doesn't make sense anymore!!


If you really want to get revenge on this guy, Gail, you should inform him that George Elliot was actually a woman. The shock will blow up his tiny little mind.


Kudos to Waid for his pledge, but I worry that with all the people Olney seems to have stiffed, Mark could end up taking quite a hit.

[Gail Simone]

See? It couldn't have been that bad if you remember what it was about. There were 5 panelists of women creators of note, including you, Heidi, JoAnne, and 2 others who's names utterly escape me at the moment. I never got much of a chance to talk to Heidi. I think she was put off by my association (at the time) with Tricky.

I did hear from several of the attending creators that vendors were actually complaining about the 3 panels that managed to get underway; seems they took away the precious few customers from buying.

I do recall I never got lunch because my panel ran during the break, and my 'perk' was amazingly over-looked. Breakfast was skipped because there were only 2 cars to shuttle all the guests from the Motel Bates over the 3 miles to the hall. The dinner for the first night was supposed to be an informal gathering of all the guests at some fairly decent restaurant; ended up as pizza and subs at a nearby take-away.

OMG, the memories are flooding back! Make them stop!

I do admit, I didn't complain; I went more for the company and connections.




Doc 'Flashback' Absurd


The whole meals thing was ridiculous...my husband and I quite happily ignored the promised meals and found our own places to eat that weren't quite so hideous. We did go to the pizza place to hang out with my good buddy Tom Peyer, whom I adore. I saw several people eating horrific meals from the school cafeteria.

There were more panelists than five, though...wasn't it more like eight? I coulda listened to Heidi all night, and there was a very talented young blonde woman who put out a really adorable book with a robot that I've been trying to find for a while. I think she was very talented.



Gail

[Gail Simone]

Well, it is not like you and Mark Waid are well known in the industry or have any friends there.

It won't be because of anything we've said or done. It's just no sane publisher would want to deal with a person who behaves like this.

Gail

[notintheface]

This guy makes me think of the mayor of Lilliput talking trash to Gulliver.

[JKCarrier]

and there was a very talented young blonde woman who put out a really adorable book with a robot that I've been trying to find for a while. I think she was very talented.

That sounds like Joanne Ellen Mutch's RUMMBLESTRIPS:

http://www.rummblestrips.com/

Great comic!

[Gail Simone]

That sounds like Joanne Ellen Mutch's RUMMBLESTRIPS:

http://www.rummblestrips.com/

Great comic!

Bingo!

GREAT book.

Gail

[kingdom2000]

Come on Rick, I was there for all of this AND you let me in on the emails... not only that but you had me looking at his work on the site that whole time and it was damn good, in fact, you seemed pretty tickled. And even if you felt the need to seperate the two projects, why not pay him for the work he did on the site? Which is above and beyond what you have now.

Ronee, when that article you where talking about coming out?

Mark Waid, I noticed you mentioned some new names involved in this that hasn't been mentioned before...unless they ok with it you might want to edit them out as Rich Johnson is bound to use em for the next LITG's article.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

As a poor shmuck who makes his living day to day toiling in the hot business of Asphalt work , I always dreamed of starting a comics company. Now how could I do it knowing I don't know jack shit about the industry beyond picking up my weekly comics and going " Geoff Johns GOOOOOOODDD " and " Jud Winick HHHHIIIISSSSS " .

Now as someone who dreams of one day hitting that Powerball Lotto Jackpot ( last check past 100 million ) I've always dreamed of starting a comics imprint or company. Putting my new millions behind it and signing some names to kick ass. Who actually know the business so I'll look smart perhaps.

But the thing is I'd be foolish to start a company and think I could become the walking incarnation of Stan Lee and Marvel from the 1960's. Or proclaim that I'll be an awesome writer since Gail Simone , Mark Waid and Kurt Busiek reply to my posts.

Right now I'm a content human being a virtual no name CBR Poster with my delusions of hitting millions possibly tomorrow. But I'll be a virtual no name CBR poster who realizes the things he can't possibly do at the moment . ;)

[Jack Zodiac]

So, to clarify, my offer still stands. Be aware that I am not offering legal advice; I do not have the wherewithal to spearhead any sort of legal action, individual or aggregate, that’s up to you; and I trust you to be honest and come to me only if you truly have a claim but can’t afford the out-of-pocket expense to file one. That said, if you are on the list of creators owed money by Olney, can demonstrate nonpayment on his part, and the only thing standing between you and a fair shot at getting paid is that you literally can't afford to file a claim against him, I will stake that expense.

You're a beautiful, gorgeous man. Like, I'm talkin' Kurt Busiek gorgeous here. I'd love to see anyone take up your offer and put this giant asshole in his place.

[Bright-Raven]

DocAbsurd / Doc Martin:

Just passing along the information I was offered by the police officer in question. I wouldn't call them "instructions", per se. If your local law enforcement officials or your attorneys instruct you otherwise for whatever reason, take their considerations into account with equal or more notice than what I posted, but going by what the officer I spoke with claimed, he saw no conflicts and that these were among proper actions to take.

*******

[TCJohnson]

It won't be because of anything we've said or done. It's just no sane publisher would want to deal with a person who behaves like this.

Gail

But at the same time if you hear of any publisher or editor getting involved with Rick, you would warn him, right?

[Skulljammer]

He's smart enough to promise payments WITHOUT a timeframe now.

.....and I'm starting to concider Mr.Waids generous offer.

[siuntres]

wow...:eek:

hadn't really read this thread since it first appeared.

I hope all the wrongs get righted.

[AaronJ]

I have been reading this thread all the way through. I really don't know what to say, at this point.

I don't know what mental illness Mr. Olney is suffering from, but it is serious, and he should have it looked into. I really hate to say this, but I almost feel sorry for him. It's clear that his connection to reality is quite tenuous. To believe that ALL these people would be conspiring to create one gigantic fib just to come down on a guy of whom very few people had heard prior to this whole debacle ... I mean, WOW.

That's some serious delusion, going on there. Lex Luthor looks sane compared to this guy.

And, seriously, it's been said a bunch of times (and deserves to be said way many more times) but Mark Waid, you are a great human being.

It's been painful reading these messages, and seeing so many good people conned by the same loser. You know, regular, decent human beings get conned because regular, decent human beings don't assume that every person they meet is a total scumbag. Even a cynic like myself generally trusts other human beings to be just that: human beings.

To everyone who got scammed by this guy, my heart goes out to you.

And, Rick Olney, seriously: I have simply to quote a good man, Joseph Welch: "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

ETA: I just wanted to add that if Mr. Waid needs a (rather small) contribution to keep this all going, I would be more than happy to oblige. I can contribute maybe somewhere in the region of $100-$200 dollars. I know that isn't much, but really, this is about the most offensive thing I've ever heard about.

[OMAR]

Thanks for that Gail... of course I'm still wondering what this guy in LITG meant by saying that this got people to feel sorry for me and that's a feat... WTF is that about?

Another loser is Ronee, whose initial reports were vague enough and yet specific enough that they implied the WRONG MAN was the attacker. Ronee's writing unintentionally spread the hurt out to far more people. And while I understand exactly why she did it, moreso than many other folks I suspect, it was still a bad decision to report it the way she did. Being guilty of many bad decisions in my life, including at least one that affected somebody in a slightly similar manner, I'm inclined to be forgiving. I'm sure there are a great many other folks who are not. Ronee's reputation has also taken a huge hit from this.

http://www.eskimo.com/~tegan/blog/20060430-20060506.html

"Older next door neighbor"? Soma is three years OLDER than Brownstein!!! Bourgeois went on to paint this as a case of sexual harassment, which is very clearly is NOT, and her careless, thoughtless writing, no matter how well intentioned, cast suspicion on an innocent man and an innocent organization to the point where Buzzscope itself is now open to a lawesuit.

And you want to know the corker? I was told by two separate people that Taki Soma did not know Bourgeois was going to write that column.

http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/2006/05/midohiogate_act_iii.html

I'm not out to demonize Bourgeois. This is no personal attack. She had a juicy story to tell and a cause in which she believed. As a journalist, I can relate to the sort of fire that can spark within a person. But as a journalist, she also had a responsibility -- to her subjects, to her readers and to herself -- to make some effort to cover as many bases as possible before issuing a call to action.

Bourgeois isn't the only one who abdicated that responsibility.

http://www.thefourthrail.com/features/0506/thoughtballoons18.shtml

What everybody here is missing is that Ronee is clearly a journalist. She's just a bad one, that's all. There are plenty of those around. I've been accused of being one myself. So why pick on Ronee? All she did was put out false information concerning a serious and inflammatory event that could have life-changing effects, acting as judge, jury and executioner, ruining a few lives in the process, and making PopCulture Buzzscope the possible subject of litigation. I mean, come on, get a life, people.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2459

Well, it's nice that five months after Buzzscope has perhaps irrevocably harmed three people's careers, jeopardized a marriage, and shaken all three of comics' biggest non-profit organizations, they are finally investigating. Thoughtful, even. They really cross those T's and dot those I's.

"Naive or disingenuous."

Folks, I think it's time to cut Buzzscope loose. I really do. They're in the cornfield. If Gonzalez had an insight into actual journalistic ethics, he wouldn't be going around making these jaw dropping statements that are digging him deeper and deeper into the hole he seemingly can't see through his smug-colored glasses of sophisticated higher purpose. And the saddest thing of all? The person most hurt by all of this is the person they were purportedly trying to help.

http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/2006/05/the_buzz_on_buzzscope.html

Though the tone of McLauchlin's comments may sound light, McLauchlin's friends have indicated to Newsarama that the accusations and suspicion had caused a great deal of personal stress in both his public and private life. McLauchlin may have been the only person to come forward to disavow his role as suspect, but he was far from the only innocent bystander to be unjustly maligned by Bourgeois' reporting.

Even in light of the current revelations, Bourgeois' statements could be seen as defamatory of both Brownstein and the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund.

Indeed, Bourgeois' articles on the subject have led to a belief that Soma's attacker had threatened her with blacklisting should she talk, something that Brownstein unequivocally denies: "I have not done and would not do anything to besmirch nor harm Taki's reputation or career in any manner. I'm the servant of a public trust who has never worked with Taki in any capacity, and am in no position to either offer or reject her work, nor am I in a position to otherwise influence anyone else in doing so. Nor would I, were I in such a position of influence."

Likewise Bourgeois' initial column alleged that, "[T]his group offered a donation to be made to a 'chick charity' (my word not theirs) and a brief suspension of this man from the position." The Comics Journal's report indicates that this is not true, stating, "With Lillie-Paetz as the intermediary, Brownstein made further apologies and offers of penance to Soma in the form of a donation to the charity of her choice and a promise to stay away from conventions where she was in attendance."

With the formal investigation already afoot behind closed doors, Bourgeois stated, "Ideally, this group and its board need to come together and treat this seriously and do something very soon. I get the feeling that they think this will blow over and that they can ignore it. But that is not the case. So if they do not want to look like asses something must be done. I have no qualms about telling the whole damned world of the corruption afoot, even if it brands me as well." Evidence now revealed indicates that the CBLDF did not ignore the matter, and followed proper legal process rather than allowing itself to be baited into a battle of public opinion. One must ask whether a company that hires an independent specialist firm to investigate serious allegations against an employee before taking final action is corrupt for doing so, or would they have been more corrupt had they, without giving both sides due process, acceded to what Bourgeois asserts was Soma's desire: "All she asked for was his dismissal so that he would not use his position to hurt another."

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=69233

As the Journal and others have suggested, Bourgeois' writings have not only brought undue distress and suspicion upon ACTOR and its president, as well as untrue and unfounded accusations about the CBLDF, but her actions have placed the Friends of Lulu in a difficult position that could imperil that organization's future viability.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=69233

[kingdom2000]

Heh good job with the quotes Omar. Also, I don't think Rich was quoting the people themselves as more pretending what they might say based on their previous posts and/or personalities. Think of the whole thing as sketch comedy that summarizes the past year's worth of LITGs.

[howyadoin]

(Gasp!!) A writer using a PEN NAME? My world doesn't make sense anymore!!I bet that's not her real hair colour, either.

[PatrickG]

Good show, Mark Waid.

As for Gail... Just a point of curiousity, do people you work with in the industry address you by your pen name or your real name? I've always been curious how this gets handled, if checks made to an artistic pseudonym will clear, etc.

I mentioned you one time to Dan Didio and it took him a second to access who you were. Just curious if pen names are primarily handled as a print only thing or if you sign your checks "Gail Simone" and people around DC call you "Gail".

I imagine cashing checks could be handled as a DBA or, if you're extra cautious, you could incorporate your pen name as a corporation to protect youself against some lawsuits. (Though realistically, a legal name change or a DBA -- if possible -- would be cheaper if it were an issue.)

[Spike-X]

I imagine the purpose of this thread is to vilify, demean, libel, and outright destroy my character, business, and personal life.

If so, it would be redundant - you seem to be perfectly capable of doing that all by yourself, DICK.

[Coppervale Studio]

1) Gail USED to use a pseudonym — but every time someone found out 'G-Bolt' was in town, she got MOBBED. Mobbed, I tell you. Even the shades didn't help. To avoid similar scenes, she started using 'Michael Eisner', but found that caused the reverse problem. I have no clue what pseudonym she uses now, because those of us who really dig her just call her 'Babs'.

2) It's true. Kurt Busiek is a lovely man.

3) Comics is WAY too small a business for NDA's to work even in THEORY, much less in PRACTICE. I mean, good for him for trying, but c'mon. Making everything going on with a company (good and bad) public knowledge builds trust when things are going well; but it builds even MORE trust when things are going badly.

4) I should point out I'm suing Cully Hamner. I don't owe him money, and the extent of our working relationship is limited to drawing on a chick's legs at a Heroes Con (with her fiance's permission, and with twenty other artists), but dammit, I LIKE Cully, and we haven't had a chance to chat in years, so I figure a lawsuit to get us in a room together makes sense. Or at a con. Either way, it's all out of LOVE.

5) Jack popping in (hi, Jack!) reminded me that although Conley's a friend, and Rick Veitch could have a kidney if he asked me, I left Comicon as an exhibitor or even as a poster because of some uncomfortable exchanges I had regarding a charity request from ORCA. Make of that what you will.

[the4thpip]

From the Blob.. I mean Blog:


Is "delive" even a word?

It's delovely. He is now channeling gay composers. Next up, Elton John.
Good-bye, yellow brick road ...

[Hybrid2]

That sounds like Joanne Ellen Mutch's RUMMBLESTRIPS:

http://www.rummblestrips.com/

Great comic!

NINJA PENGUIN!!

Great batroom scene.LOL

[Cam63]

From the Blob.. I mean Blog:


Is "delive" even a word?

It is now.

[Sparvid]

Hmmm, is it ethical for me, after stating the thing i really hate about Olney is blames other people for all his problems, to frame my three legged cat for the action I take against Olney?Don't know if it's ethical or not, but I sure hope the cat hasn't made you sign a NDA, otherwise you're soooo sued.

[Cam63]

I don't have a dog but I do have a three legged cat that is getting uppity.

Q. What do you call a shitty three legged cat ?

A. A stool.

[Cam63]

I bet that's not her real hair colour, either.

The glasses are fake too. She just wears them to appear smarter.

Authors... HUH !

[Mike Bullock]

That sounds like Joanne Ellen Mutch's RUMMBLESTRIPS:

http://www.rummblestrips.com/

Great comic!


Joanne is awesome and Rummblestrips is well worth the read. :)

[Cam63]

1) Gail USED to use a pseudonym — but every time someone found out 'G-Bolt' was in town, she got MOBBED. Mobbed, I tell you. Even the shades didn't help. To avoid similar scenes, she started using 'Michael Eisner', but found that caused the reverse problem. I have no clue what pseudonym she uses now, because those of us who really dig her just call her 'Babs'.

2) It's true. Kurt Busiek is a lovely man.

3) Comics is WAY too small a business for NDA's to work even in THEORY, much less in PRACTICE. I mean, good for him for trying, but c'mon. Making everything going on with a company (good and bad) public knowledge builds trust when things are going well; but it builds even MORE trust when things are going badly.

4) I should point out I'm suing Cully Hamner. I don't owe him money, and the extent of our working relationship is limited to drawing on a chick's legs at a Heroes Con (with her fiance's permission, and with twenty other artists), but dammit, I LIKE Cully, and we haven't had a chance to chat in years, so I figure a lawsuit to get us in a room together makes sense. Or at a con. Either way, it's all out of LOVE.

5) Jack popping in (hi, Jack!) reminded me that although Conley's a friend, and Rick Veitch could have a kidney if he asked me, I left Comicon as an exhibitor or even as a poster because of some uncomfortable exchanges I had regarding a charity request from ORCA. Make of that what you will.

Welcome, James.

[AIPman1]

Damn, I missed another Chernobyl, didn't I?

Could someone please do me a solid? If you have a few spare minutes (totaling into hours) could you find the post where Tricky 'Dick' says outright that the ICC is mine to do with as I please?

Daphne has already been down to our attorney's office and shown him Tricky's inflated and implied threats. He wants to see in print where he hands the creative reigns over to me so he can use that in court.

Oh, and Tricky, Gail was on 2 panels at your 'con'. The one I hosted had the better attendance, and the panelists and crowd all agreed that despite my being deathly ill, I managed to host a pretty decent panel.

Louis, we're taking your instructions to our attorney in the morning. Tricky just shyte, it's time to get off the pot.




Doc 'Red Alert' Absurd
my advice? DUMP the ICC name and logo, and come up with a new name and logo of your own to house the project. You don't need the long term shadow of the ICC having been involved with Rick Olney hanging over the future of your work.

And battling for that name is a waste of effort, when it's not the name that will sell your project, it's YOUR integrity and the quality of the work you produce.

[the4thpip]

my advice? DUMP the ICC name and logo, and come up with a new name and logo of your own to house the project. You don't need the long term shadow of the ICC having been involved with Rick Olney hanging over the future of your work.

And battling for that name is a waste of effort, when it's not the name that will sell your project, it's YOUR integrity and the quality of the work you produce.

I think he would not want to have Olney use it either, though, and profit from the work that Doc's done there.

[AIPman1]

That sounds like Joanne Ellen Mutch's RUMMBLESTRIPS:

http://www.rummblestrips.com/

Great comic!
I still have a few copies of those for sale! Signed by Joanne.

[AIPman1]

I think he would not want to have Olney use it either, though, and profit from the work that Doc's done there.
I would think the ease of making a new name (Independant Creators Guild, Association, Organization...ICG, ICA, ICO) would outweigh having people's opinions tainted that Rick Olney started the group. The Work Tim's done is easily transferred to a clean slate. Olney's not going to go anywhere with a group, he can't even get one comic done without causing the biggest meltdown I've ever seen. Anyway, just my opinion and a thought worth considering. Why fight to keep a tainted group name? Start fresh, focus on positives.

[singoalla]

Has anyone actually been contacted by Orca's shark? (lame lame I know)
Seeing as how I can't figure it'd take this long to put a lawsuit together.

~blinks~

Hang on.

I just realised I have no clue why Olney would sue. I understand the people who haven't gotten paid suing or going to claims court to get their moneys back. But... no one has stolen or taken anything from Olney as far as I understand it from this whole long long thread. So why is he suing? Or claiming to sue?

I'm confused. Utterly and completely.

[OzBat!]

Libel. Libel and slander. Libel, slander, and defamation. Libel, slander, defamation, and being commie pinko liberal sympathisers, which should be an executable offence. And wearing gaudy pink outfits and sunglasses at con appearances, how gauche!

The one problem that "Rick" hasn't managed to parse yet, is the fact that it's not Libel, slander, or defamation when it's true. Truth hurts!

[Jamie Coville]

Does anybody else here find it ironic (in an Alanis Morissette way) that the only person we know that Olney did eventually pay is.... Gail? And it's her thread on her section of CBR that all this is coming from?

[DocAbsurd]

my advice? DUMP the ICC name and logo, and come up with a new name and logo of your own to house the project. You don't need the long term shadow of the ICC having been involved with Rick Olney hanging over the future of your work.

And battling for that name is a waste of effort, when it's not the name that will sell your project, it's YOUR integrity and the quality of the work you produce.

I think he would not want to have Olney use it either, though, and profit from the work that Doc's done there.

Here's what needs a bit of explaining:

The idea behind a co-operative like the ICC was pure and simple; we wanted to offer a venue for creators to work other creators for shytes and giggles. Think of taking one of your own favorite characters and teaming him up with another creator's own favorite characters, out of continuity, short story format, publishing taken care of of.

Creators could then take copies of such an anthology and use it to promote not only their own work, but the work of others. There's other projects I have in mind that'd work the same way.

It's all about cross-promotions in the name of fun, something we creators could use a bit more of.

Tricky, no matter what he claims here to the contrary, wanted the group initially to give the SPA a run for its money. I took it and turned it on its ear. I came up with the name, the 'lightbulb' logo, the ideas, even the first bunch of the initial creators who expressed interest came on-board because of me.

I was also the front-man, the mouth-piece, the spokesperson for the group. In a momentary burst of logical clarity, he realized that anything connected with his name would flop and die at the starting gate. Only one other person knew Rick was tangetically involved, and that was Lance. And when he helped spread the word, he kept the secret; he knew the same thing would happen if Tricky was ever mentioned in conjunction with the ICC.

Tricky was supposed to provide beginning funding, lay down the paperwork for the not-for-profit status, connections for various types of printing, get the whole business aspect going. None of that ever happened. Yes, I did drag my feet during the past year, but I think a combination of my excessively busy personal schedule along with some serious deeply hidden doubts prevented the idea from taking off during 2006. At one point he made a public announcement about me being in charge when the ICC MySpace was around; I'm sure a few people remember that.

My biggest desire for the group was that no-one would take credit for such an endeavor; the group would exist as its own entity. It would also allow other publishers to assist with the various publication chores so titles would be heralded as 'the ICC in conjunction with'.

This was all about promotions and fun. And small press/independent creators.

Now Tricky claims he doesn't trust our 'clique' mentality. He wants nothing to do with small press creators. He hands me the ICC free and clear -- twice -- in this very thread (oh, and thank you, too, Sarah, for finding the other postings).

Then, just as suddenly, he decides it's not as free and clear as I 'might think'. Hate to break it to him, but you can't own the concept of an idea; only the execution of an idea can be copyrighted. And everything about this group is mine. Destroying evidence to the contrary won't change history. This isn't 'Secret Wars' or 'Inifinite Crisis'; retconning punches and memory wipes don't happen.

He's just pissed off because the group is getting attention (not the kind I wanted, but still) and he can't claim it as his (which I can't help but wonder if that wasn't part of his plan all along). He's taking the ball off the playground even though he doesn't own it. More typical bullying tactics. More sour grapes.

And to be honest, Ian, it wasn't until this was brought up here than anyone had a clue that Tricky was involved with the ICC. Unless someone tells me otherwise (and I mean it, if you have any doubts about being involved with a group that initially had tenuous connections with Tricky, lemme know on the ICC ComicSpace page and I'll get about to changing it) I'll keep going for now. Doesn't mean I won't come up with a contingency plan, though.

Pip's partially right, too. The concept of the ICC is pure. I don't want any credit for any projects that may develop from it; this is all about community (hey, can I call it 'communism' and really grate his cheese?). I don't want someone as sleazy as Tricky taking an idea that's meant to help any and all creators and use it for his own gains.

I'm off for another double-shift. Won't be back until late tonite. Daphne should be checking in later this afternoon and she'll keep me appraised if there's another psychotic episode.

I've been thru a lot worse situations than Tricky here. And I've come out the better person for it. Going back to court for the umpteenth time to face off against the deadbeat ex next week is far more pressing than his juvenile antics.

He pisses me off, and he's adding a lot of stress I don't fecking need, especially right now. But if he thinks his empty threats are gonna back me off, he'd better consult a psychologist right after he talks with his attorney.




Doc 'Still Standing' Absurd

[AIPman1]

Well, I for one knew the ICC had Olney backing from the get go, I didn't think that was a secret either. But that really doesn't matter. If you want to dig in and keep the initial work intact, I'm not gonna say don't do it...I think you indeed should. I was just trying to shine light on options.

I hope we can do some joint SPA/ICC projects.

[khuxford]

With the Corries coming up this is a lock to win Best Thread of 2006. It has all the fun to make it. With Industry heavywieghts like Mark Waid , Kurt Busiek and Gail Simone wieghing in against someone. When the guy who wrote Kingdom Come shows up and offers to battle you , ya know its reaching a status not seen on CBR in awhile.


MacQuarrie here is Waid's current books and someone can correct me if I'm wrong.


Supergirl & the Legion of Superheroes
Brave & the Bold ( starting in Jan. or Feb.)


I'm awaiting Brave and Bold with a hunger unforseen. As a guy collecting the old B & B series I can't wait to see all the cool teamups. Jonah Hex & Batman soon ? :p

He's part of 52, as well. Honestly, he's not doing enough for my tastes. I generally give him a chance on anything he does...even the City of Heroes comic. :) Well...wait...Hunter/Killer I didn't try, but that's because I didn't like the artist he was working with.

[Cully Hamner]

...but dammit, I LIKE Cully...

Doesn't excuse the stalking, James. If I see you outside the bathroom window again, I'm notifying the authorities.

[Ronée]

http://www.eskimo.com/~tegan/blog/20060430-20060506.html



http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/2006/05/midohiogate_act_iii.html



http://www.thefourthrail.com/features/0506/thoughtballoons18.shtml



http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2459



http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/2006/05/the_buzz_on_buzzscope.html



http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=69233



http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=69233oh, trust me, I am familiar with the crap said during that time but i will tell you this... I did what I thought needed to be done and that is draw attention to something so many others were trying to pretend did not happen. What people inferred from my opinion column was on thier own. and putting FOL in jeopardy? I am sorry but working towards helping women in this industry SHOULD be what Friends of Lulu is all about.

[khuxford]

Thanks, TC. Let's see how this plays out and I'll be in touch. If you want to make the contribution out as if it comes from your dog, you should, 'cause it'll be fun to see Olney file a countersuit against him.

I'm willing to chip in, as well.

[khuxford]

(Gasp!!) A writer using a PEN NAME? My world doesn't make sense anymore!!

Is it terrible that one of the first things I wanted to know in this thread was what the pen name is? :p

[Gail Simone]

As a poor shmuck who makes his living day to day toiling in the hot business of Asphalt work , I always dreamed of starting a comics company. Now how could I do it knowing I don't know jack shit about the industry beyond picking up my weekly comics and going " Geoff Johns GOOOOOOODDD " and " Jud Winick HHHHIIIISSSSS " .

Now as someone who dreams of one day hitting that Powerball Lotto Jackpot ( last check past 100 million ) I've always dreamed of starting a comics imprint or company. Putting my new millions behind it and signing some names to kick ass. Who actually know the business so I'll look smart perhaps.

But the thing is I'd be foolish to start a company and think I could become the walking incarnation of Stan Lee and Marvel from the 1960's. Or proclaim that I'll be an awesome writer since Gail Simone , Mark Waid and Kurt Busiek reply to my posts.

Right now I'm a content human being a virtual no name CBR Poster with my delusions of hitting millions possibly tomorrow. But I'll be a virtual no name CBR poster who realizes the things he can't possibly do at the moment . ;)


Hey, my heart and admiration go out to anyone who self-publishes. They are the eyes and soul of the industry in my opinion and they often risk everything they have. I can't tell you how many mini-comics and webcomics I've read recently that I've truly loved. You don't have to have millions to make it happen, Karen Ellis here is a perfect example of someone who produces a fantastic read without having to create a big comics company first.

It's just that when you publish, or have an intent to publish, you have to be honest with the people you bring into it. That's where Rick Olney completely and utterly failed...he didn't even keep in regular communication. There's no excuse for that.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

I bet that's not her real hair colour, either.

Is too.

I've put highlights and such in, once in a while, but this is my hair color, dammit!

Gail

[Momma Absurd]

Holy mother of god.

"Dick" is insane.

Is that why you wanted my address, "Dick"? To make me part of you lawsuit? I just thought you wanted to be a peeper.

Will you whine here or your MySpace first?

Jackass.

DO NOT GIVE THAT PSYCHO FREAK YOUR ADDRESS!!! Last thing you need is to be going to court cus your pets were molested.......<smirks>:rolleyes:

[hellokittykat]

Is too.

I've put highlights and such in, once in a while, but this is my hair color, dammit!

Gail

Green isn't a real color Gail!

[Gail Simone]

1) Gail USED to use a pseudonym — but every time someone found out 'G-Bolt' was in town, she got MOBBED. Mobbed, I tell you. Even the shades didn't help. To avoid similar scenes, she started using 'Michael Eisner', but found that caused the reverse problem. I have no clue what pseudonym she uses now, because those of us who really dig her just call her 'Babs'.

2) It's true. Kurt Busiek is a lovely man.

3) Comics is WAY too small a business for NDA's to work even in THEORY, much less in PRACTICE. I mean, good for him for trying, but c'mon. Making everything going on with a company (good and bad) public knowledge builds trust when things are going well; but it builds even MORE trust when things are going badly.

4) I should point out I'm suing Cully Hamner. I don't owe him money, and the extent of our working relationship is limited to drawing on a chick's legs at a Heroes Con (with her fiance's permission, and with twenty other artists), but dammit, I LIKE Cully, and we haven't had a chance to chat in years, so I figure a lawsuit to get us in a room together makes sense. Or at a con. Either way, it's all out of LOVE.

5) Jack popping in (hi, Jack!) reminded me that although Conley's a friend, and Rick Veitch could have a kidney if he asked me, I left Comicon as an exhibitor or even as a poster because of some uncomfortable exchanges I had regarding a charity request from ORCA. Make of that what you will.



When I'm G-bolt, I feel free!

Gail

[Momma Absurd]

Thank you Mr. Stillwell, I appreciate your finding this so much.......big hug to you.....

[Gail Simone]

Does anybody else here find it ironic (in an Alanis Morissette way) that the only person we know that Olney did eventually pay is.... Gail? And it's her thread on her section of CBR that all this is coming from?

Yep, but again, he only paid a partial reimbursement of my out of pocket expenses. After two years of his bullshit, I told him to keep the remainder.

I don't want or expect him to pay the balance. When Chuck Dixon came forward to mention how Olney had shafted him, I voiced my support (I'd otherwise happily ignored the little man) and that's when he lost his not-very-held-together-in-the-first-place composure.

So it's not about me, I just want him to pay the people he owes. He could STILL man-up enough to say, "Okay, I'm in trouble here and I need to make a payment plan" and I think almost everyone he's shafted would go for that AND it would do a lot to clear his name.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Well, I for one knew the ICC had Olney backing from the get go, I didn't think that was a secret either. But that really doesn't matter. If you want to dig in and keep the initial work intact, I'm not gonna say don't do it...I think you indeed should. I was just trying to shine light on options.

I hope we can do some joint SPA/ICC projects.

Nice, some good comes from this!

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Green isn't a real color Gail!

It's a lovely shade of RED, you!

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

DO NOT GIVE THAT PSYCHO FREAK YOUR ADDRESS!!! Last thing you need is to be going to court cus your pets were molested.......<smirks>:rolleyes:

Yeah, no worries. I am not terribly hard to find anyway.

[hellokittykat]

It's a lovely shade of RED, you!

Gail

My bad-I got a little mixed up but I knew it was a Christmas color.
Whoopsy!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh, and apparently he has done some more editing to his own blog. A LOT of entries disappeared. Shame I made copies....

[amboy00]

Where is that good ol' Google Chache?

[Gail Simone]

Oh, and apparently he has done some more editing to his own blog. A LOT of entries disappeared. Shame I made copies....

That does seem to be his pattern...say something nutty, remove it later, pretend he never said it.

We have a LOT of that stuff saved, but not from his blog. Thanks, Matt, hold onto it, would you?

Gail

[Mike Bullock]

In the interests of getting my artists, Paul "Gutz" Gutierrez and Bob Pedroza, paid for their work on this project, I'll gladly donate the money Rick Olney owes me personally towards the legal fees involved in forcing Rick to be a stand up guy.

And then I'd like an anwer to the age old question: Head or gut? :evilsmile

[Sarah Beach]

That does seem to be his pattern...say something nutty, remove it later, pretend he never said it.

We have a LOT of that stuff saved, but not from his blog. Thanks, Matt, hold onto it, would you?

Gail

Yeah, I noticed that last night Matt, and if you do find the cache & copy it, let me know. Many of the December blog entries edged into defaming some of the Dixonverse posters, myself included. Perhaps his shyster got around to checking the link to my long response to him, where I warned him that he was running the risk of coutersuits because of what he was putting on his blog.

Whatever. He's now trying to retcon his image into that of writer. Heh. That's another laugh.

[TCJohnson]

We have a LOT of that stuff saved, but not from his blog. Thanks, Matt, hold onto it, would you?

Gail

We can have readings while sipping expresso!

[Sarah Beach]

We can have readings while sipping expresso!

Actually, this sounds like a fun late-night Con activity! "Meet at X restaurant in Y hotel, we've got a back corner reserved! Take one of the roles in the Great Orca Hunt from YABS! Much fun will be had reading the posts aloud. The starring melt-down role does come late in the play, but the build-up is dramatic!"

[Gail Simone]

Actually, this sounds like a fun late-night Con activity! "Meet at X restaurant in Y hotel, we've got a back corner reserved! Take one of the roles in the Great Orca Hunt from YABS! Much fun will be had reading the posts aloud. The starring melt-down role does come late in the play, but the build-up is dramatic!"

FROM THE WORKS OF RICHARD (THE THIRD) OLNEY...

Ahem.

"Ode To A Plebe..."


Gail

[JeffreyWKramer]

Is too.

I've put highlights and such in, once in a while, but this is my hair color, dammit!


I'm sure there's a drapes/carpet joke in there somewhere, but I'm *not* going to make it.

No, I am not.

Really. Not gonna go there.

I swear.

[Gail Simone]

I'm sure there's a drapes/carpet joke in there somewhere, but I'm *not* going to make it.

No, I am not.

Really. Not gonna go there.

I swear.

WISE CHOICE.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

Actually, this sounds like a fun late-night Con activity! "Meet at X restaurant in Y hotel, we've got a back corner reserved! Take one of the roles in the Great Orca Hunt from YABS! Much fun will be had reading the posts aloud. The starring melt-down role does come late in the play, but the build-up is dramatic!"

I forget who...I think SK, used to do do these cartoons using posts on this board as dialogue. They were hysterical.

[EdContradictory]

I just love how he thinks that getting 1000 friends on MySpace is an accomplishment.

'Course, I just broke the 1000 friends mark. It was never my goal, because I realize that people fall out of touch from time to time. But that is the beauty of true friendship. I don't measure friendship by physical beauty. It might sound strange to a portion of you, but I can look at an image and read a profile and think, "Wow, this is someone I'd like to try and become friends with."

[TomStillwell]

If I had the time and the inclination I'd reinstall THE MOVIES on my PC and make this all into a feature film. This stuff is gold.

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:PvtjSHJDNHUJ:profile.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Duser.viewprofile%26friend ID%3D59528410+blog+%2B+orcafresh&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a


Now how do I get one level down in the cache? The titles are there...we have some excerpts posted here... I want to get into the original entries.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I just love how he thinks that getting 1000 friends on MySpace is an accomplishment.

Remember that Daily Show , news break where one of them was talking about MySpace and friendship. Claiming he had 2,400+ friends and just sent them all 2,400+ E-Mail Birthday cards ? The guy looked at him like he was nuts.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I just love how he thinks that getting 1000 friends on MySpace is an accomplishment.

Hell...if I approved 1/2 the porn chicks (COME SEE MY WEBCAM! IT'S SUPER KEWL!) I'd have 1000 myspace friends. Some of his friends, though, are his family (which have multiple accounts on MySpace, Starr has 3 or 4) and his own "businesses".

[EdContradictory]

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:PvtjSHJDNHUJ:profile.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Duser.viewprofile%26friend ID%3D59528410+blog+%2B+orcafresh&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a


Now how do I get one level down in the cache? The titles are there...we have some excerpts posted here... I want to get into the original entries.

You can't. You need to find a cache of the actual blog entry.

Which might not exist.

But the data can be obtained from MySpace easily enough with a court order.

Surely someone saved these, though.

[Matt Algren]

You can't. You need to find a cache of the actual blog entry.

Which might not exist.

But the data can be obtained from MySpace easily enough with a court order.

Surely someone saved these, though.I'm pretty sure they're all copied on this thread.

[DungeonmasterJim]

Help!

I'm completely addicted to this thread!


DM Jim

[Gail Simone]

Help!

I'm completely addicted to this thread!


DM Jim


Then sign a few NDA's and stay a while!

Gail

[Dedagda]

Then sign a few NDA's and stay a while!

Gail

My NDA was declined by several agencies. Can I use an NDA advance? The interest is a little higher but its very worth it.

Can someone cull funny bits into smaller thread? I've been laughing out loud at some of the comedy genius.

I would like to add I did not like the Ronee snark in Lying in the Gutters year end column while covering Tightlip?

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Is it wrong to be addicted to this? This has to be the most unbelievable thing I've ever read. My only question is what made this guy think he could get away with it. :confused:

[Matt Doc Martin]

Can someone cull funny bits into smaller thread? I've been laughing out loud at some of the comedy genius.


Sorry. "Dick" is the one who uses creative editing.

[AIPman1]

I just love how he thinks that getting 1000 friends on MySpace is an accomplishment.

I'm at 1400 at Comicspace...don't know 5% of them yet...

[AIPman1]

Oh, and apparently he has done some more editing to his own blog. A LOT of entries disappeared. Shame I made copies....

you can't un ring a bell....

[amboy00]

I'm at 1400 at Comicspace...don't know 5% of them yet...Nooooo... if they're a friend on comicspace, then they're a friend in real life.

Don't you know how the internet works?

[Corrina]

I've been informed by a litigation attorney* that the cost of keeping an attorney on retainer per year would run more than the $17,000 that Mr. Olney currently owes to various people.

My attorney says "sounds like the attorney is a relative or something."

*In interests of full disclosure, this would be my husband, but if you all want a student transcript and payment stubs, plus various bar certificates, including one from the New York bar, I can supply those. :)

[singoalla]

Nooooo... if they're a friend on comicspace, then they're a friend in real life.

Don't you know how the internet works?

Like Tom. He's the friendliest and bestest friend in all of Myspacedom. Everyone loves Tom. Tom loves everyone.

uhhuh.

~nod nod~

[Matt Doc Martin]

I've been informed by a litigation attorney* that the cost of keeping an attorney on retainer per year would run more than the $17,000 that Mr. Olney currently owes to various people.

My attorney says "sounds like the attorney is a relative or something."



That was my guess as well.

[amboy00]

Like Tom. He's the friendliest and bestest friend in all of Myspacedom. Everyone loves Tom. Tom loves everyone.

uhhuh.

~nod nod~

http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/tom/female

[websbestcomics]

You can't. You need to find a cache of the actual blog entry.

Which might not exist.

But the data can be obtained from MySpace easily enough with a court order.

Surely someone saved these, though.

I believe I have all of his December blog posts that he later deleted.

I also found this quote from Olney:

"Publicity is publicity, good or bad... Who is to judge? Since this has began we've nearly completed Tales of The Spooky ..2, hired and placed 4 new artists of note, in motion. And anchored our June 07Mighty Minicon. Things are improving despite the doomsayers and hatred filled trolls!"

He posted this on December 8, which means he was (and assuming still is) hiring new talent.

[AIPman1]

despite the 30,000+ views this thread has gotten, there are still countless creators out there who have not heard of any of this...

[Sarah Beach]

Is it wrong to be addicted to this? This has to be the most unbelievable thing I've ever read. My only question is what made this guy think he could get away with it. :confused:

I'm guessing here, but: He thought the injured parties would never talk to each other and compare notes -- because those NDAs were hanging over them. He thought they would suffer in silence and write it off as a bad experience, and never mention him out loud. He thinks if he deletes things from his blog, that will make it "as if he never said it." He thinks his perception of reality (and how he chooses to adjust it, such as the emails Gail has posted now being "forgeries") is the ruling one.

That's how he thought he'd get away with it.

[Coppervale Studio]

Doesn't excuse the stalking, James. If I see you outside the bathroom window again, I'm notifying the authorities.


I know, I know... If I'd realized sooner that threatening lawsuits is the PC way to get attention, I'd have sued you YEARS ago.

It was a nice gesture of you to leave the sandwich for me outside the window, though. Props.

[Momma Absurd]

That does seem to be his pattern...say something nutty, remove it later, pretend he never said it.

We have a LOT of that stuff saved, but not from his blog. Thanks, Matt, hold onto it, would you?

Gail

Some copies from his blog have been saved.......*wink wink*

[Momma Absurd]

I've been informed by a litigation attorney* that the cost of keeping an attorney on retainer per year would run more than the $17,000 that Mr. Olney currently owes to various people.

My attorney says "sounds like the attorney is a relative or something."

*In interests of full disclosure, this would be my husband, but if you all want a student transcript and payment stubs, plus various bar certificates, including one from the New York bar, I can supply those. :)

Actually our cost per year for keeping our attorney on retainer is 23,450.00 You see several of my family are in the medical field and since we all have the same attorney we all throw in for his expenses throughout the year. This ensures that everyone is covered no matter what deluded baboons happen to cross our path....in this case though he might raise his fees since we are dealing with a bipolar jackass suffering from delusions of grandeur......

Momma "got it goin on"Absurd

[Jared H.]

and there was a very talented young blonde woman who put out a really adorable book with a robot that I've been trying to find for a while. I think she was very talented.



Gail


Gail, I think the comic you're looking for is called "Halo and Sprocket{sp?}" good little book.

Edit: Ah, n/m. Rumblestrips was the it. Not familiar with that one.

And to Mark Waid: You, sir, are made of Win.

[Cully Hamner]

Can someone cull funny bits into smaller thread?

Mm? Sorry, thought I heard my name.

[MacQuarrie]

I've been informed by a litigation attorney* that the cost of keeping an attorney on retainer per year would run more than the $17,000 that Mr. Olney currently owes to various people.

My attorney says "sounds like the attorney is a relative or something."

*In interests of full disclosure, this would be my husband, but if you all want a student transcript and payment stubs, plus various bar certificates, including one from the New York bar, I can supply those. :)

Oooh. Your husband can practice in New York... Does he ever engage in recreational lawyering for the sheer entertainment of it? Or, failing that, is he interested in earning some of Mark Waid's money here?

[Momma Absurd]

I just love how he thinks that getting 1000 friends on MySpace is an accomplishment.

Dear Lord please protect those that weren't born but pissed out on hot rocks!!

How come anything internet is "I have more friends than you do"? I mean you go into chat and people brag about their friends list on their messengers, go to 360 and people add people regardless of who they are or what they are. 1000 friends on a myspace isn't nothing to brag about...I would rather have 10 very good close trusted friends than 1000 fake ones, and the ones who added Mr, Onery, I feel sorry for, because they have no idea of what they have done......

Just a thought, maybe his adds are the children of the schools that "he taught comics at" or perhaps he added a bunch of the "porn hos are us" people, or even maybe his split personalities all made myspace sites and each added him, or maybe its relatives he owes money too and this is the only way they have of tracking him.........the possibilities are endless.......

Momma "smart-ass" Absurd

[GCom]

I was directed to this thread by TC, from a post he made at the 'Rama.

A couple of you may know me, I'm a retailer. I'm going to be speaking at this point as such, and from the point that I haven't read all 113 pages of this thread...

Gail, have you brought this up at the CBIA? I'm certain there may be some response there, if nothing else it could be seen as a warning for retailers. I'm certainly appreciative of such.

At this time, I've no intention of devoting any of my rack-space to any product involving in any way Mr. Rick Olney until at such time I hear through reliable channels the Ronee and any other creative talents owed back monies have had this problem resolved to their satisfction. I'm not fond of shennanigans, and this is just about all I can do within my power. It's a small industry, we all talk to each other, and I just don't enjoy hearing about things like this going on. If you can't play nicely, you can't play in my playpen.

I'll leave it at that for now. Busy, busy.


With Tolerance For Being Informed...

GCom

[Corrina]

Oooh. Your husband can practice in New York... Does he ever engage in recreational lawyering for the sheer entertainment of it? Or, failing that, is he interested in earning some of Mark Waid's money here?

I'll ask but I should point out when I informed him of the case, he said he doubted anyone would ever be able to collect a judgment, having dealt with Mr. Olney's type in the past.

He said your best use of funds could be small claims court. (With a bunch of disclaimers about the fact he's talking generally, not specifically on the facts of these case, just others like them that he's handled in the past.)

[TCJohnson]

I was directed to this thread by TC, from a post he made at the 'Rama.


And just for the record, my intention was not necessarily to bring bad pulicity to Rick Olney, but to point out what an amazing generous offer Mark Waid made.

[Gail Simone]

I was directed to this thread by TC, from a post he made at the 'Rama.

A couple of you may know me, I'm a retailer. I'm going to be speaking at this point as such, and from the point that I haven't read all 113 pages of this thread...

Gail, have you brought this up at the CBIA? I'm certain there may be some response there, if nothing else it could be seen as a warning for retailers. I'm certainly appreciative of such.

At this time, I've no intention of devoting any of my rack-space to any product involving in any way Mr. Rick Olney until at such time I hear through reliable channels the Ronee and any other creative talents owed back monies have had this problem resolved to their satisfction. I'm not fond of shennanigans, and this is just about all I can do within my power. It's a small industry, we all talk to each other, and I just don't enjoy hearing about things like this going on. If you can't play nicely, you can't play in my playpen.

I'll leave it at that for now. Busy, busy.


With Tolerance For Being Informed...

GCom

Thank you for posting this from a retailer's perspective. We have Richard from Zeus already, but everyone knows he's a little odd.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

We have Richard from Zeus already, but everyone knows he's a little odd.

Gail

Well, he is from Texas...he is perfectly normal there.

[RichJohnston]

Thanks for that Gail... of course I'm still wondering what this guy in LITG meant by saying that this got people to feel sorry for me and that's a feat... WTF is that about?

Your report regarding Taki Soma pissed off a lot of people, when certain people found themselves falsely accused, others found themselves misled, others saw fiction and opinion represented as fact and others believed that you were harming FOL. And then you took a job as PR for Rick Olney. As a result, your reputation suffered.

The recent non-payment, your stance against it and your outspokenness on thsi matter has redeemed you in the eyes of many.

That's what I meant.

[THEDOC]

I still have a few copies of those for sale! Signed by Joanne.
Whatever happened to Joanne. She has a great insight on the mind of "Rick" as she was berated and more by "Rick" as well.

[GCom]

And just for the record, my intention was not necessarily to bring bad pulicity to Rick Olney, but to point out what an amazing generous offer Mark Waid made.

Oh yes, and I see it that way also. However, once I got here, I got curious, so...



With Tolerance For One More Cat Getting Whacked...

GCom

[GCom]

Thank you for posting this from a retailer's perspective. We have Richard from Zeus already, but everyone knows he's a little odd.

Gail

It's a common trait among retailers. Especially these days.

>twitch<

>twitch<


With Tolerance For Species Classifications...

GCom

[Gail Simone]

Whatever happened to Joanne. She has a great insight on the mind of "Rick" as she was berated and more by "Rick" as well.

wait, what does that mean, exactly?

Gail

[THEDOC]

Well, I for one knew the ICC had Olney backing from the get go, I didn't think that was a secret either. But that really doesn't matter. If you want to dig in and keep the initial work intact, I'm not gonna say don't do it...I think you indeed should. I was just trying to shine light on options.

I hope we can do some joint SPA/ICC projects.

I don't think "Rick" kept it a secret (I think he had posted the news of Tim and mine promotion on the MMC), at least at the beginning that is what I had an ICC Topic on the IF Forum...THEN he decided it would be best leaglly to take the topic off. This was when he was cutting the topics on the MMC Forum. I think this when things started going down hill between him and myself, and as he wasn't getting many posts on MMC he e-mailed me to start posting on the MCC to I guess that I was still supporting him and I ws till revently. I still have those e-mails.

I would love to see SPA/ICC or ICC/SPA or IF/ICC/SPA or NWO/DX/WWE whatever!

[AIPman1]

Whatever happened to Joanne. She has a great insight on the mind of "Rick" as she was berated and more by "Rick" as well.I know exactly what Rick did to Joanne, but I'll not post it for her. Last I heard from Joanne, she had decided to turn over artwork on Rummblestrips to others, and was starting the whole thing over as a GN. But was making more money selling anime online than anything else or such...

I miss her! I think she burned out on the self publishing trail a bit...but you never leave it forever, it's always in your blood...hope to see her back at SOMETHING any time!

[THEDOC]

wait, what does that mean, exactly?

Gail
I will reserve Ian to say anything about that if he wishes I just thought "Rick" treated her pretty bad. I miss her too.
How many Forums HAS "Rick" started flame wars in? I know at 6

[the4thpip]

Yeah, no worries. I am not terribly hard to find anyway.

Gotta admit I was quite surprised to find you in my sock drawer the other week.

[EdContradictory]

I will reserve Ian to say anything about that if he wishes I just thought "Rick" treated her pretty bad. I miss her too.
How many Forums HAS "Rick" started flame wars in? I know at 6

I only know of here, Commiecon, and MW.

[howyadoin]

Is too.

I've put highlights and such in, once in a while, but this is my hair color, dammit!That eye is fake though, isn't it?

(You know the one I mean.)I just love how he thinks that getting 1000 friends on MySpace is an accomplishment.MySpace friendship is real friendship!

[TomStillwell]

MySpace friendship is real friendship!

That's true! Howy and I get drunk every Friday night and IM each other. Best buds 4ER!!!

[singoalla]

http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/tom/female

Print T-Shirts saying: I got plneyed.

Sell them, give the proceeds to whomever lost money.

Nothing says fame like having your name turned into a verb. ;) esp. seeing as how he seems to confuse infamy with fame.

[Skulljammer]

I like that! I would wear it for sure!

[Cam63]

Is too.

I've put highlights and such in, once in a while, but this is my hair color, dammit!

Gail

Bugger. I was all set to call you Miss Wiggy.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I was directed to this thread by TC, from a post he made at the 'Rama.

A couple of you may know me, I'm a retailer. I'm going to be speaking at this point as such, and from the point that I haven't read all 113 pages of this thread...


At this time, I've no intention of devoting any of my rack-space to any product involving in any way Mr. Rick Olney until at such time I hear through reliable channels the Ronee and any other creative talents owed back monies have had this problem resolved to their satisfction. I'm not fond of shennanigans, and this is just about all I can do within my power. It's a small industry, we all talk to each other, and I just don't enjoy hearing about things like this going on. If you can't play nicely, you can't play in my playpen.

GCom

I am pretty sure that space wasn't going to be used any time soon anyhow. I bet we see the 100th issue of All Star Batman and Robin before anything TLE professes to be working on.

[Cam63]

That eye is fake though, isn't it?

(You know the one I mean.)MySpace friendship is real friendship!

That'd be the one with the laser and X-ray capabilities.

[Lester C.]

You know you've fucked people over when you have a 115 plus thread describing what, in my opinion, an asshole you are. If that being the case than where my thread?:confused:

[Gail Simone]

You know you've fucked people over when you have a 115 plus thread describing what, in my opinion, an asshole you are. If that being the case than where my thread?:confused:

You know who I hate?

LESTER CARTHAN!

Not really. But would everyone mind pretending I did for 115 pages?

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

You know you've fucked people over when you have a 115 plus thread describing what, in my opinion, an asshole you are. If that being the case than where my thread?:confused:

The scary thing is that his OWN blog he mentions what an asshole he is...so that his 1000 friends, all of whom received Christmas cards and a fresh box of cookies, know it....just in case they miss it everywhere else it is mentioned.

[Jack Zodiac]

2) It's true. Kurt Busiek is a lovely man.

Gorgeous. Kurt is a gorgeous man.

4) I should point out I'm suing Cully Hamner. I don't owe him money, and the extent of our working relationship is limited to drawing on a chick's legs at a Heroes Con (with her fiance's permission, and with twenty other artists), but dammit, I LIKE Cully, and we haven't had a chance to chat in years, so I figure a lawsuit to get us in a room together makes sense. Or at a con. Either way, it's all out of LOVE.

When he countersues, tell him I said I think he's one of the best artists working at DC today and he should fight tooth and nail to stay on Blue Beetle! :)

EDIT: Nevermind, he popped in. Don't let that stop you from suin' his ass, though!

[Cam63]

You know who I hate?

LESTER CARTHAN!

Not really. But would everyone mind pretending I did for 115 pages?

Gail

What is this " pretend " thing you speak off ?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The scary thing is that his OWN blog he mentions what an asshole he is...so that his 1000 friends, all of whom received Christmas cards and a fresh box of cookies, know it....just in case they miss it everywhere else it is mentioned.

Damn thats pretty funny. And I usually feel bad for owing someone 20 bucks. :p

[Gail Simone]

Damn thats pretty funny. And I usually feel bad for owing someone 20 bucks. :p

That's my head-scratcher, too. I feel bad for mistakes I made when I was EIGHT, and this guy is able to instantly forget cheating people out of money on CHRISTMAS.

It's a gift, I guess.

Gail

[Cam63]

I've personally known people who live their life being deadbeats without a sniff of any conscience to the people they owe.

They find it hilarious, actually.

[Jack Zodiac]

That's my head-scratcher, too. I feel bad for mistakes I made when I was EIGHT, and this guy is able to instantly forget cheating people out of money on CHRISTMAS.

It's a gift, I guess.

What, being an asshole? Some people have to work at it, yeah, but Olney's a fucking natural.

[howyadoin]

That's true! Howy and I get drunk every Friday night and IM each other. Best buds 4ER!!!Shush. Olney might want in.

[Scott Shaw!]

I only know of here, Commiecon, and MW.

Rick Olney also had a mega-meltdown on the Comics Journal boards. The mods weren't amused and quickly gave him the boot.

Also, I want to apologize to Gail and the gang here for my comments/comparisons to the late George Caragonne. I certainly wasn't urging our smelly friend to commit suicide, but Rick's outlandish "Hey, look at me! I'm a crook!" mentality reminded me of George's intentionally spectacular demise. I guess Rick's unapologetic arrogance, dishonest business practices, phony-baloney legal threats, general looniness underhanded insults to my family and friends -- and lengthy track record for this sort of happy horseshit -- finally brought out my darker side. I just hate to see this clown get away without repercussions, dammit.

Ultimately, my morbid meanderings were kinda pointless.

I've sometimes heard I'm known as one of comicdom's "nice guys", but when someone like Rick Olney acts like such a prick (as if I've ever encountered anyone else so brazen), I can act like a prick, too. Again, my apologies to everyone (except Rick Olney; may you have a long and utterly miserable life).

Aloha,

Scott!

[Sarah Beach]

That's my head-scratcher, too. I feel bad for mistakes I made when I was EIGHT, and this guy is able to instantly forget cheating people out of money on CHRISTMAS.

It's a gift, I guess.

Gail

As I discovered the other day, he professes to be Wiccan -- so maybe the "Christmas" thing doesn't really matter to him. Except as an occasion to be the center of attention.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

That's my head-scratcher, too. I feel bad for mistakes I made when I was EIGHT, and this guy is able to instantly forget cheating people out of money on CHRISTMAS.

It's a gift, I guess.

Gail

It being the holidays and all I'd think of the damn families and all. But it sadly never became an issue for him. That is something that just irks me. Your gonna sue the people you personally hired , to do work you personally had done and now your gonna sue them !


Rick Olney also had a mega-meltdown on the Comics Journal boards. The mods weren't amused and quickly gave him the boot.

Also, I want to apologize to Gail and the gang here for my comments/comparisons to the late George Caragonne. I certainly wasn't urging our smelly friend to commit suicide, but Rick's outlandish "Hey, look at me! I'm a crook!" mentality reminded me of George's intentionally spectacular demise. I guess Rick's unapologetic arrogance, dishonest business practices, phony-baloney legal threats, general looniness underhanded insults to my family and friends -- and lengthy track record for this sort of happy horseshit -- finally brought out my darker side. I just hate to see this clown get away without repercussions, dammit.

Ultimately, my morbid meanderings were kinda pointless.

I've sometimes heard I'm known as one of comicdom's "nice guys", but when someone like Rick Olney acts like such a prick (as if I've ever encountered anyone else so brazen), I can act like a prick, too. Again, my apologies to everyone (except Rick Olney; may you have a long and utterly miserable life).

Aloha,

Scott!

It took me a few minutes to realize who you were talking about. We won't hold that against you Scott. But what did happen to Penthouse Comics ? I heard about the sucide and all of their EIC as a non-online fan back in the day.

[Gail Simone]

As I discovered the other day, he professes to be Wiccan -- so maybe the "Christmas" thing doesn't really matter to him. Except as an occasion to be the center of attention.

Ick. The first Wiccan I've met I didn't like, then.

And Scott, after his idiotic insults (I can't believe he thinks he's got the wit to write--I'm embarrassed for him every time he types), I think it's understandable.

Gail

[Perry Holley]

As I discovered the other day, he professes to be Wiccan If that's the case, then he should be familiar with the adage "And it harm none, do what thou will." Likewise, he should know of the tenet that whatever you do to others, for good or ill, will come back to you threefold.

[Sarah Beach]

If that's the case, the he should be familiar with the adage "And it harm none, do what thou will." Likewise, he should know of the tenet that whatever you do to others, for good or ill, will come back to you threefold.

Well, I didn't say he was a good (as in, paying attention to the tenets) one. He'd just made some reference to it over on mySpace.

But I agree, Gail. I think he'd be a disgrace to any "faith group".

[EdContradictory]

Gotta say, him being a Wiccan is a bit surprising.

[MacQuarrie]

Gotta say, him being a Wiccan is a bit surprising.

I'm just glad the Christians don't have to claim him.

[Coppervale Studio]

Has anyone noted the irony that the sum total of Rick's legal threats basically amounts to his shouting, "You'll all be sorry!"

?

[Lester C.]

Gotta say, him being a Wiccan is a bit surprising.

I agree. I don't get the whole Wiccan thing but anyone that wants to dedicate their life to the study of nature and helping people through white magic is alright in my book because they are harmless and are doing far more good than harm.

[Cully Hamner]

When he countersues, tell him I said I think he's one of the best artists working at DC today and he should fight tooth and nail to stay on Blue Beetle! :)

Thanks, but if I do that, Black Lightning might get jealous.

[Gail Simone]

Thanks, but if I do that, Black Lightning might get jealous.

Who might get jealous? ME! I might get jealous! I'm not workin' on no Cully Hamner book!

Grr.

Are the scripts great? Bet the scripts are great. Jen Van Meter rocks so hard, she's twice as good as some of the people doing the big name things. She's awesome.

Dangit!

I want this book now! NOW I tells ya!


Gail

[Magneto_X]

I don't get the whole Wiccan thing but anyone that wants to dedicate their life to the study of nature and helping people through white magic is alright in my book because they are harmless and are doing far more good than harm.

"Rick" probly thought being a wiccan would give him magic powers to use black magic with to---conquer the comic industry?!? :confused:

He should put down the Harry Potter books*.


* not to offend HP fans, I read it myself lol

[Crowley]

so what happened?

Did he finally talk to a lawyer and the lawyer finally gag him?

and how long can he go without posting?

[THEDOC]

I only know of here, Commiecon, and MW.
How many times has "Rick: been booted and/or started flame wars , let me count the ways, well there are those three, the IF Forum (my site), The SPA Forum, Small Press Palaver Yahoo Group.

[THEDOC]

so what happened?

Did he finally talk to a lawyer and the lawyer finally gag him?

and how long can he go without posting?

I give it by tomorrow. "Rick" is like algie, you can clean it out but it always grows back.

[Jack Zodiac]

Thanks, but if I do that, Black Lightning might get jealous.

Oh, well, for Black Lightning I might not mind so much. You're pencilling the "Year One" mentioned a while back, then? Awesome, we'll get a cool looking Black Lightning with hair!

[Pia Guerra]

I am absolutely disgusted that he would claim to be a Wiccan and pull this crap on others.

I can't see any coven (regardless of how olfactorally challenged) putting up with him either.

[Sarah Beach]

I think he really did have a consult with the lawyer, wherein the lawyer looked over everything (not just what Himself was feeding him), and was appalled. Especially with the growing possibility that people really would pursue legal action with him.

Because not only has he (finally) stopped posting, but all his problematic posts (well, almost all) have been deleted from mySpace.

I went checking and the Wayback doesn't archive mySpace blogs. So one would have to contact mySpace itself to get the texts of deleted blog entries (if they weren't copied prior to the deletion).

That and redefining himself as a "writer" now. (Much less with the "publisher" thing.)

Oh, I wanted to ask if anyone know..... on the Might Mini Con site, the webcomic that is up --- who are the creative talents on that? There are NO CREDITS posted for it!

Who did this webcomic? (http://www.mightyminicon.com/gaak.asp)

I'm just curious.

[Sarah Beach]

How many times has "Rick: been booted and/or started flame wars , let me count the ways, well there are those three, the IF Forum (my site), The SPA Forum, Small Press Palaver Yahoo Group.

He both started flame wars and was booted on Dixonverse, just last month. I ought to know. I did the booting.

[TCJohnson]

As I discovered the other day, he professes to be Wiccan -- so maybe the "Christmas" thing doesn't really matter to him. Except as an occasion to be the center of attention.

WHAT?! Excuse me?!

He throws around insultas like commie and queer and he is a wiccan? That REALLY pisses me off.

[TCJohnson]

Sorry, it is just wow...the things that piss me off about this guy just keep piling up.

I can't see any coven (regardless of how olfactorally challenged) putting up with him either.


Many are solitary practitioners.

[TCJohnson]

If that's the case, then he should be familiar with the adage "And it harm none, do what thou will." Likewise, he should know of the tenet that whatever you do to others, for good or ill, will come back to you threefold.

That is the thing. I think he is so wrapped up in his own world, so selfish he cannot see beyond his own problems and really has no idea how much he is hurting those he is cheating. I don't think he realizes how much people need that money so in his mind he is not doing anything wrong.

[MacQuarrie]

WHAT?! Excuse me?!

He throws around insultas like commie and queer and he is a wiccan? That REALLY pisses me off.

He is a wiccan in the same way that he is a comics publisher. He talks about being one, but doesn't do any of the things that go with the title and actively behaves as the antithesis of what he claims to be.

[Crowley]

from his MySpace page:

MetLife 1986-1998
Oriskany, New York US
Supervisor
National Accounts Checkwriting

[Gail Simone]

I think he really did have a consult with the lawyer, wherein the lawyer looked over everything (not just what Himself was feeding him), and was appalled. Especially with the growing possibility that people really would pursue legal action with him.

Because not only has he (finally) stopped posting, but all his problematic posts (well, almost all) have been deleted from mySpace.

I went checking and the Wayback doesn't archive mySpace blogs. So one would have to contact mySpace itself to get the texts of deleted blog entries (if they weren't copied prior to the deletion).

That and redefining himself as a "writer" now. (Much less with the "publisher" thing.)

Oh, I wanted to ask if anyone know..... on the Might Mini Con site, the webcomic that is up --- who are the creative talents on that? There are NO CREDITS posted for it!

Who did this webcomic? (http://www.mightyminicon.com/gaak.asp)

I'm just curious.

I think it's by that one lone guy who sorta semi-defended Rick earlier in the thread. The strip is called GAKK or something like that, and I think it actually looks pretty good.

Gail

[THEDOC]

I think it's by that one lone guy who sorta semi-defended Rick earlier in the thread. The strip is called GAKK or something like that, and I think it actually looks pretty good.

Gail

I seem to remember that comic but cannot think of the creator's name though "gaak" might be a clue, maybe he is embarrassed to be recognized. Saw he was under "columns" but the comic just comes up. Tim might know.

[THEDOC]

Darn to slow at the answer.