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Papergirl
03-02-2007, 02:29 PM
Yes, but to be fair, most of the posts are about Danny's hat.

Gail
And KITTENS!

~Bev

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 02:34 PM
I have taken a TON of shit for this thread
The person who rocks the boat, for some reason, always gets yelled at. But sometimes it's just unavoidable.

CLC GraphiX
03-02-2007, 02:36 PM
I feel like we are all in some sort of club or group, those affected by Rick Olney: "Hi, I'm Erik and I got screwed, too"

I can attest to what Rich Carlin said, as I was getting the same treatment he was. Rick Olney contacted me to design an event t-shirt for The Spooky and also asked for some autographed memorabilia for some sort of charity auction. I won't bore you all with details, as we all know the outcome:
there was no "Spooky" and I lost my time designing a shirt for a non-existent event (thank God I never printed them, or I would have lost even more time and money). Of course, I never got back the autographed stills I sent, either.

I have a collection of hilarious emails where Mr. Olney melted down and called me every name in the book, and among other things said I was going to "eat crow" when he held the next successful "Spooky" horror convention.

Still waitin' on that crow, Rick.

Cheers,
Erik
www.clcgraphix.com

Calliope's Comics
03-02-2007, 02:41 PM
From the law offices of Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe

Dear Mr. "Matthew" "Doc" "Martin",

You were recently asked a question on your "Ask Matthew Anything" thread by our client Calliope's Realm Comics. The question pertained to what said entity should call their new publishing imprint, since all of the great logos and names have been taking. You did not offer a reply stating only that you would "get back to" our client. Let it be know that this is fraud. You are now facing CIVIL ACTION. Please provide the name of the company immediately or we will be forced to file against you in non-small claims court.

Sincerely,
Yessai Cheatum
Happy Meal Attorney at Law

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 02:44 PM
Danny, you did a great job of getting the word out.

This is the first auction I've ever run and I was a bit worried about it. Everything seems to be working out and hopefully we'll get a buttload of money to help people.

Thanks Tom!

I was really just trying to be funny, I was trying to be a glory hound. ;) But I appreciate the kind words.

If I hadn't gotten called away to help someone move this afternoon I was going to follow it up with that line from scrubs..

"Well this here medical miracle machine... well it runs on props.. so come on people, let's here it.. cox! cox! cox!"

me too. I am starting up reviews again in my column/site.

also, Danny you da man! I think my crush grows more every post.

oh and from now on I want to be referred to as "Ronée"

Aww thank you! You're good for my shattered, shattered ego!

How do you make the little ' over the e? maybe I'll just cut and paste. :p

Danny, you are doing a great job getting the t-shirts and stuff on the road. That's the quickest way to do those.

I posted a revised logo on Unscrewed that is a bit more crisp if you want to use that one, be my guest.

I think I have that one. I used it on some of the things but I may have accidentally put the wrong one on others if anything looks blurry. I need do a lot of oversight tonight to see if a.) I have the right crisp image and b.) to pimp it up a little more and give the listings a little flair and properly credit you on all the ones that have your design on them (with links to your website)

I was just throwing a lot of stuff together to see what flew today. Eventually I'd like to make it a grass roots thing. Let outside people pick stuff up just to be walking billboards for the site. Because I make sure every design is marked with the URL if at all possible.

(sadly the magnets and the keychains would look bad with the site stamp over it)


Yes, but to be fair, most of the posts are about Danny's hat.

Gail

To be fair, it is quite cunning.

I balance out Matt! He's our captain! ;)


And KITTENS!

~Bev

And "Ronée"'s love of me! ;)

Stressfactor
03-02-2007, 02:47 PM
Hey! Actually, you might have something.... Call it CIVIL ACTION! After all, you're all very civil and you're in action! And then it can also have a double meaning...

Sarah Beach
03-02-2007, 02:50 PM
Oh, Chris, you so funny! ;)

Why not call the imprint Civil Action? Heh. (That's only half a joke, by the way. Just spinning off ideas.)

Rich Carlin: Like Gail, I've been hearing some stories like yours, but never one that staggers me so. I really have no idea what goes on in the man's mind (he allegedly does have one, being still breathing), that the trouble and expense he causes to others with his cancellation behavior means nothing to him. I just don't get how someone could be that thoughtless.

Added: obviously minds are running on the same track, Chris! Could it be a winner?

Rich_Carlin
03-02-2007, 02:53 PM
Rich,

I am constantly amazed by this, that more and more people every week come out with a "Rick Olney lied and cheated" me story. I have taken a TON of shit for this thread, from people who essentially would think rolling over and staying quiet would somehow have the same impact as staying on point about Rick's scumbaggery. I suggest that if they could keep quiet after hearing about all the people who got screwed, there's something wrong with THEM, not the people on this thread. Me, I get angry every time I hear a story like yours.

How DARE he screw you and your friends like that? How DARE he threaten and insult you when his idiocy and incompetence caused you definite harm?

Man, I still feel guilty for bad things I did in elementary school and this idiot manages to sleep at night after having threated people he's cheated and lied to repeatedly.

Disgusting.

Anything I can ever do for you or your site, you let me know.

Rick? You're a swine. The industry LOATHES you. You will NEVER be able to pull this crap on people again, and you're going to pay for your many, many lies and scams.

Gail


Gail, thanks for the response. I commend you for starting this thread and helping bring Rick Olney's BS to light.

Calliope's Comics
03-02-2007, 02:56 PM
Hmm...

Civil Action Comics. That might be close enough to existing copyright for me to be sued for a civil action. Although it does have a certain ring to it. I can see the logo now. A lawyer with a stack of comics in one hand and a happy meal in the other. Oh by the way what exactly would a happy meal smile be. If you look at the McD's logo it looks like two frowns, so would a happy meal smile be a sad face. Because then it makes sense as to why Rick's lawyer would have said smile.

Rich_Carlin
03-02-2007, 02:57 PM
Rich...

Please post the links to your website. With so many good folks here, I bet we can spread the word and send some other good folks your way.

Everyone else...

Anyone know how Rich might be able to file against Olney from Scotland? Are there any other cases when Olney screwed someone from across an ocean?

By the way...

I'm reading page 1100 of this thread and I think we're closing in on something like 16,500 posts.

1100 pages!

16,500 posts!

I'm stunned.

Tony


Hey Tony, I can't believe the amount of posts either. It pretty much says it all... the amount of people Olney has messed with, in one way or the other.

My websites: www.pitofhorror.com & www.gutsandgory.com

Our convention: www.txfearfest.com - It's set to be a big one. Unlike Olney, we got the captial in place and put this together. It's our first show, but the attendance is going to be good (great presales). I didn't want to plug any of my sites on this thread, but since you asked... ;)

Would be cool to meet anybody from this site, if you can make it.

In terms of taking Olney to court, I think for me, it'd be too difficult. I have also learned my lesson! It's just good to know that he is not getting away with everything!!!

Rich_Carlin
03-02-2007, 02:59 PM
Rich, I'm sorry to hear about the crap he put you through.

This illustrates very well two important points why no one should have anything to do with Rick Olney professionally.

1. He is a cheating liar who uses threats to hide his own misdeeds.

He will never ever treat anyone with honesty and fairness. If he can use you, he will. If he can scam you, he will. If he can get away without paying, he will.

2. He is about as piss poor a business man as you'll ever come across.

His ventures don't fail because of immoral behavior. Scumbags can still be successful. They fail because of shitty organization, poor planning, and total lack of business sense.

Thanks for the response also, Tom.
All the best!

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 03:04 PM
Hmm...

Civil Action Comics. That might be close enough to existing copyright for me to be sued for a civil action. Although it does have a certain ring to it. I can see the logo now. A lawyer with a stack of comics in one hand and a happy meal in the other. Oh by the way what exactly would a happy meal smile be. If you look at the McD's logo it looks like two frowns, so would a happy meal smile be a sad face. Because then it makes sense as to why Rick's lawyer would have said smile.

Howabout Cyberbully? Rick's new pet name for the folks on this thread.

Linkara
03-02-2007, 03:07 PM
Well, if I ever started a comics company I kind of hoped to call it "Steel Dragon," but that's just me. I do relinquish the rights for you to call it that if you think it's cool enough, since I'm going nowhere with it at the age of 19. ^_~

Flamebird
03-02-2007, 03:13 PM
Hey, all...I need to know who, if anyone. ever DID get paid. PM me please if you know/or if you ARE that person.



Still waiting?

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 03:13 PM
Well, if I ever started a comics company I kind of hoped to call it "Steel Dragon," but that's just me. I do relinquish the rights for you to call it that if you think it's cool enough, since I'm going nowhere with it at the age of 19. ^_~

19?!!! I have clothes older than that.

Rich_Carlin
03-02-2007, 03:16 PM
Oh, Chris, you so funny! ;)

Why not call the imprint Civil Action? Heh. (That's only half a joke, by the way. Just spinning off ideas.)

Rich Carlin: Like Gail, I've been hearing some stories like yours, but never one that staggers me so. I really have no idea what goes on in the man's mind (he allegedly does have one, being still breathing), that the trouble and expense he causes to others with his cancellation behavior means nothing to him. I just don't get how someone could be that thoughtless.

Added: obviously minds are running on the same track, Chris! Could it be a winner?

Yeah Gail, he took advantage of me, pretty much. I am a horror movie fan, and I do my sites as a labour of love, so for somebody to come along and offer what Rick offered, was overwhelming, and blinding. I learned my lesson.

It's just great to know that people have stood up to him. Refreshing.

Yonar
03-02-2007, 03:24 PM
I want to create a company called 'Go To Hell' so that I can answer the phone, "Hello, Go to hell, who is it?"

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal
03-02-2007, 03:26 PM
Hey Tony, I can't believe the amount of posts either. It pretty much says it all... the amount of people Olney has messed with, in one way or the other.

My websites: www.pitofhorror.com & www.gutsandgory.com

Our convention: www.txfearfest.com - It's set to be a big one. Unlike Olney, we got the captial in place and put this together. It's our first show, but the attendance is going to be good (great presales). I didn't want to plug any of my sites on this thread, but since you asked... ;)

Would be cool to meet anybody from this site, if you can make it.

In terms of taking Olney to court, I think for me, it'd be too difficult. I have also learned my lesson! It's just good to know that he is not getting away with everything!!!


Hey! Thats in my neck of the woods! I live just a couple of hours from where the con is being held. And it begins 3 days after my birthday. I will have to try and make it. Too bad I haven't geared up any of my horror stuff yet for the show.

Rich_Carlin
03-02-2007, 03:29 PM
Awesome man!
Wasn't going to mention it, but since I am here, a very good friend of mine is a comic book artist and colorist, he does some work for DC and just designed our new shirt for GnG.

I DECIDED TO REMOVE IT, SINCE IT'S OFF TOPIC.

KevinTBrown
03-02-2007, 03:34 PM
Well, if I ever started a comics company I kind of hoped to call it "Steel Dragon," but that's just me. I do relinquish the rights for you to call it that if you think it's cool enough, since I'm going nowhere with it at the age of 19. ^_~

19?!!! I have clothes older than that.

Shit, I've been at my job that long! :eek:

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 03:42 PM
Awesome man!
Wasn't going to mention it, but since I am here, a very good friend of mine is a comic book artist and colorist, he does some work for DC and just designed our new shirt for GnG.

I DECIDED TO REMOVE IT, SINCE IT'S OFF TOPIC.


This is YABS, is there such a thing as "off topic?"

Also damn Link! Now I'm not the youngest turk up in here.

I knew once I turned 26 it was all downhill from here.

Where's my cane?

KIDS GET OFFA MY DAMN LAWN!

Yonar
03-02-2007, 03:42 PM
Awesome man!
Wasn't going to mention it, but since I am here, a very good friend of mine is a comic book artist and colorist, he does some work for DC and just designed our new shirt for GnG.

I DECIDED TO REMOVE IT, SINCE IT'S OFF TOPIC.

Uhm, Hi, welcome to YABS, the land of self pimping and OFF TOPIC stuff.

Sure, this place is about Gail, and her fans, but it's also about whatever Gail and her fans like to read and write about. This thread, ostensibly about RO, is also about the people screwed by Rick, and whatever conversation we Yabsers get into.

In short, don't feel too constrained by topic here. Heck, if you're uncomfortable posting it in this thread, you can always go start another one, and tell us ALL about it. :)

Your local attention whore.

LP

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 03:43 PM
Sure, this place is about Gail, and her fans, but it's also about whatever Gail and her fans like to read and write about. This thread, ostensibly about RO, is also about the people screwed by Rick, and whatever conversation we Yabsers get into.

It's also about my hat.

OzBat!
03-02-2007, 03:44 PM
Rich,

You put that back in, buster! This entire thread is one long derailed train of stream of consciousness rantings and ravings... and that's just from Olney!

It might be worth starting up a dedicated thread for it though, so you can promote the heck out of yourself. As an Olney Orphan, you deserve the recognition!

Rich_Carlin
03-02-2007, 03:50 PM
You guys are too kind. Very appreciated.
It was just an image of our new shirt, that my friend Jim Devlin had drawn. I love Jim's work, so I was pleased he was up for doing the shirt design. He is working on another one as we speak. It is quite graphic, and I am not sure of the rules here right now tbh, so forgive me if it needs to be removed....



http://www.gutsandgory.com/images/artwork.jpg

Calliope's Comics
03-02-2007, 03:51 PM
It's also about my hat.

Danny,
Have you thought of offering a signed edition of your hat up for the Unscrewed auction?

Rich_Carlin
03-02-2007, 03:54 PM
Rich,

You put that back in, buster! This entire thread is one long derailed train of stream of consciousness rantings and ravings... and that's just from Olney!

It might be worth starting up a dedicated thread for it though, so you can promote the heck out of yourself. As an Olney Orphan, you deserve the recognition!


Totally! Lol... it's weird how I decided to google his name tonight and see what he was up to next, to find this God-sent thread! It totally made my day (to see he had been exposed for what he is, not that he has ripped off so many people!). What goes around, comes around...

Yonar
03-02-2007, 03:55 PM
This is YABS, is there such a thing as "off topic?"

Also damn Link! Now I'm not the youngest turk up in here.

I knew once I turned 26 it was all downhill from here.

Where's my cane?

KIDS GET OFFA MY DAMN LAWN!

I am (seriously) pondering getting a cane. A nice lexan cane like the Kingpins in Dare Devil, or something classy, I haven't decided whether I want a doorknob or a derby handle yet.

It will go well with the pipe, though I'm not sure it goes with the Kilt I sometimes wear (I know, I'm a weird duck).

It certainly doesn't go with the yoyos.

But, you know, at 27, I have to keep up in the old man race with my best friend, who is younger than me, and wears an old man hat, and smoked a pipe first.

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 03:57 PM
Danny,
Have you thought of offering a signed edition of your hat up for the Unscrewed auction?

Never!

Although I will auction off the honor of coming to see me in my hat.

But it's far to cunning for just ANYONE to weild.

Because you know you see a man walking around in public in a hat like that you know he's not afraid of anything. ;)

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 03:59 PM
I knew a guy whose dad used to make those gorgeous twisted-wood canes. I so need to get something like that for when it's not too far to hoof it.

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 04:02 PM
I am (seriously) pondering getting a cane. A nice lexan cane like the Kingpins in Dare Devil, or something classy, I haven't decided whether I want a doorknob or a derby handle yet.

It will go well with the pipe, though I'm not sure it goes with the Kilt I sometimes wear (I know, I'm a weird duck).

It certainly doesn't go with the yoyos.

But, you know, at 27, I have to keep up in the old man race with my best friend, who is younger than me, and wears an old man hat, and smoked a pipe first.

My friend Loki had this bad ass cane with skulls on it. Looked like something out of Conan or Kull the Conquerer.

I feel like an old man, although I have since I was 12. :p

You get me rolling on "these kids today" and I will rant up and down about how they don't know WHAT good is.

I mean look at the TV shows they have now... Bratz? what the hell is that? Where's the kick ass stuff like Gargoyles, Darkwing Duck, and the like!

One of my dearest friends has two little ones and we were talking about that I told her that I felt bad for her kids not having the awesome things we had growing up. So I bought them the box sets of Gummi Bears and Darkwing on DVD.

She told me the other night that she was asked by the kids if they could bounce home like the Gummi Bears when they were out. :p

Score one for good programming! :p

Comcman
03-02-2007, 04:04 PM
It is quite graphic, and I am not sure of the rules here right now tbh, so forgive me if it needs to be removed....

Easier on the eyes than either of the TightLip logos.

(On topic, ha!)

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 04:07 PM
You guys are too kind. Very appreciated.
It was just an image of our new shirt, that my friend Jim Devlin had drawn. I love Jim's work, so I was pleased he was up for doing the shirt design. He is working on another one as we speak. It is quite graphic, and I am not sure of the rules here right now tbh, so forgive me if it needs to be removed....The image posted was not particularly graphic (but nicely-drawn nonetheless), so I think we can handle it. XD;;;

Yonar
03-02-2007, 04:11 PM
My friend Loki had this bad ass cane with skulls on it. Looked like something out of Conan or Kull the Conquerer.

I feel like an old man, although I have since I was 12.

You get me rolling on "these kids today" and I will rant up and down about how they don't know WHAT good is.

I mean look at the TV shows they have now... Bratz? what the hell is that? Where's the kick ass stuff like Gargoyles, Darkwing Duck, and the like!

One of my dearest friends has two little ones and we were talking about that I told her that I felt bad for her kids not having the awesome things we had growing up. So I bought them the box sets of Gummi Bears and Darkwing on DVD.

She told me the other night that she was asked by the kids if they could bounce home like the Gummi Bears when they were out.

Score one for good programming!

Yeah, but they have Avatar now, man. You've got to respect the Avatar.

It gives me hope for Nick, and in general, the ability of american animation to create story based cartoons.

I'm trying to avoid the 'voodoo cane' as I like to call it, since I think I could only too well pull off the skull topped cane. :evilsmile

I want a cane that makes me think more 'Victorian Gentleman' or 'Modern Sorcerer'. ;)

Although, I could settle for a hat that says 'If you laugh, I have to shoot you'... ;)

Side Note: Smilies count as images. I'm limited to four a post, including what you put in your quote, so you're no longer allowed to use smilies when I want to quote you.

Sarah Beach
03-02-2007, 04:12 PM
Rich - that logo looks great. I mean, yeah, it's for a horrorfest, so what would one expect. But it's a really great piece!

Danny: Gummi Bears is on DVD!?! I did not know that! Dang! Another thing to add to my next order! I loved that show. (And I know one of the writers for it! Heh.)

TonyIsabella
03-02-2007, 04:13 PM
Yes, but to be fair, most of the posts are about Danny's hat.

Gail

Has anyone mentioned that he's too sexy for this hat?

Tony

Yonar
03-02-2007, 04:18 PM
I knew a guy whose dad used to make those gorgeous twisted-wood canes. I so need to get something like that for when it's not too far to hoof it.

I've done most of my looking over at fashionable canes.com cause I like their selection more than most of the online stores I've found.

Some you might like, spiral carved (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/Spiral_Carved_Walking_Canes.html), multicoloured (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/Wooden_Colortone_Walking_Canes.html), and stylish inlays (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/Nickel_Walking_Canes_Walking_Sticks.html). :)

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 04:20 PM
I think I love you. <3333

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 04:21 PM
I think I love you. <3333

You seem to have a lot of love to give.....



And there was SOMEONE who allegedly got paid once...does anyone remember who they are?

Gail Simone
03-02-2007, 04:23 PM
I feel like we are all in some sort of club or group, those affected by Rick Olney: "Hi, I'm Erik and I got screwed, too"

I can attest to what Rich Carlin said, as I was getting the same treatment he was. Rick Olney contacted me to design an event t-shirt for The Spooky and also asked for some autographed memorabilia for some sort of charity auction. I won't bore you all with details, as we all know the outcome:
there was no "Spooky" and I lost my time designing a shirt for a non-existent event (thank God I never printed them, or I would have lost even more time and money). Of course, I never got back the autographed stills I sent, either.

I have a collection of hilarious emails where Mr. Olney melted down and called me every name in the book, and among other things said I was going to "eat crow" when he held the next successful "Spooky" horror convention.

Still waitin' on that crow, Rick.

Cheers,
Erik
www.clcgraphix.com


I can't wait to hear his bullshit excuses about how cheating you and Rich is somehow your fault.

Bleah.

Gail

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 04:25 PM
Yeah, but they have Avatar now, man. You've got to respect the Avatar.

It gives me hope for Nick, and in general, the ability of american animation to create story based cartoons.

Side Note: Smilies count as images. I'm limited to four a post, including what you put in your quote, so you're no longer allowed to use smilies when I want to quote you.


I'll have to remember that. lol. Hence why I am backed up with this beauty ^_^

a smiley that doesn't count as an image!

I like Avatar, don't get me wrong there are a few shows that are entertaining. Legion of Super-heroes is another one. To be honest, I didn't care much for "the batman" until Rick Burchett started producing this season, last week's was the Harley Quinn episode written by Paul Dini. So it was *almost* like having the old Batman:TAS back. All you needed was Bruce Timm doing art direction.

But by and large MOST shows on saturday morning are just embarassing, even for the youngest of viewers.

And Disney's abandoned cartoons for their 'tween' live action tv series. I swear, yesterday I was flipping through the channels and I came across a block that had Darkwing Duck and Goof Troop I was very happy. :p


Danny: Gummi Bears is on DVD!?! I did not know that! Dang! Another thing to add to my next order! I loved that show. (And I know one of the writers for it! Heh.)

YES! Seasons 1-3 on one volume. I don't know what they're going to do with season 4 (which DID exist. Although they were mostly small mini episodes packaged with the new adventures of winnie the pooh.)

I loved that show too. I still know the theme song. "Magic and mystery are part of their history, along with the secrets of gummi berry juice."

Amazon has it on sale for around $23

Good price.

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 04:25 PM
Oh my god. It's like a lightsaber AND a cane (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/80604.html)! *_____*

MDM: Only to cool people.

Yonar
03-02-2007, 04:27 PM
I think I love you. <3333

Hehhe.

Thanks. :)

For me, I'm thinking something like this, since, you know, I don't really need a cane, I just want to be super styling.. What? It's pretty! (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/12251.html)

Or, you know, something like this darker cane (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/50644.html) to match my prediliction for black clothes.

Or, this neat carbon cane. (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/5701bk.html)

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 04:28 PM
Hehhe.

Thanks. :)

For me, I'm thinking something like this, since, you know, I don't really need a cane, I just want to be super styling.. What? It's pretty! (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/12251.html)

Or, you know, something like this darker cane (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/50644.html) to match my prediliction for black clothes.

Or, this neat carbon cane. (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/5701bk.html)

I was just looking at the lucite ones, yeah. :XD We have the same taste in canes.

Yonar
03-02-2007, 04:29 PM
Oh my god. It's like a lightsaber AND a cane (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/80604.html)! *_____*

MDM: Only to cool people.

Yeah. :) I thought about that one, but decided I couldn't afford that much for what was, essentially, a lightsaber joke waiting to happen. :)

Yonar
03-02-2007, 04:32 PM
Also note, I concidered this (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/05095.html), but decided walking around in a Kilt with a huge phalic symbol in my hands was something I could do without.

NatGertler
03-02-2007, 04:34 PM
Well, if I ever started a comics company I kind of hoped to call it "Steel Dragon," but that's just me.Alas, it's not just you. It's also what some folks in the mid-1980s wanted to call their comics company. SteelDragon Press is most noted for the first volume of Captain Confederacy.

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 04:35 PM
Also note, I concidered this (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/05095.html), but decided walking around in a Kilt with a huge phalic symbol in my hands was something I could do without.

Doooo eeeeet. You know you want to.

OzBat!
03-02-2007, 04:37 PM
Also note, I concidered this (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/05095.html), but decided walking around in a Kilt with a huge phalic symbol in my hands was something I could do without.
Either that or free advertising.

SteveForbes
03-02-2007, 04:37 PM
Oh my god. It's like a lightsaber AND a cane (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/80604.html)! *_____*

MDM: Only to cool people.


I SO hate you right now!

I have three canes now: one looks like a regular black cane, one has a metal skull on the end, and the last one has a bone skull w/ a horn sticking out of it.

All of the canes have a blade in them. The regular black one has 2 blades.

Yeah, I like edged weapons.

Anyway, THAT is a nice cane, and now I have to have it.

Thanks.

-(needs more canes) llama

TCJohnson
03-02-2007, 04:39 PM
I can't wait to hear his bullshit excuses about how cheating you and Rich is somehow your fault.

Bleah.

Gail

He cancelled the con because of problems that were out of his control, and they are both monsters for not understanding.

Yonar
03-02-2007, 04:42 PM
I SO hate you right now!

I have three canes now: one looks like a regular black cane, one has a metal skull on the end, and the last one has a bone skull w/ a horn sticking out of it.

All of the canes have a blade in them. The regular black one has 2 blades.

Yeah, I like edged weapons.

Anyway, THAT is a nice cane, and now I have to have it.

Thanks.

-(needs more canes) llama

sword canes worth noting..

Ivory Ball (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/90841.html)

Silver Ball (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/90867.html)

And the excellent Naked Lady sword (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/90888.html)!

The rest of their selection (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/Weapon_Sword_Canes.html)..

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 04:42 PM
All of the canes have a blade in them. The regular black one has 2 blades.

Yeah, I like edged weapons.I've always wanted a swordcane, but the blades are usually shitty unless you pay really good money.

Anyway, THAT is a nice cane, and now I have to have it.

Thanks.

-(needs more canes) llamaYou're welcome! XD

Yonar
03-02-2007, 04:43 PM
Either that or free advertising.

That's what the kilt is for!

DarrenCawsey
03-02-2007, 04:44 PM
Steve,

a plain white shirt for ya

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=unscrewed.112575754

and a hat with the ribbon for Darren

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=unscrewed.112725490


Thanks heaps Danny!! :D

Now I just have to wait 10-15 business days and I can stick it to Rick in style. :cool:


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Yonar
03-02-2007, 04:45 PM
I've always wanted a swordcane, but the blades are usually shitty unless you pay really good money.

You're welcome! XD


Not being fond of rapiers and thin, long blades in general (Give me katanas and bastard swords any day.) I've never seen much point either, but some of them are quite nice, in a novelty sort of way.

I'd much prefer a katana in a longer than needed bamboo sheath to a sword cane, but I guess that's a matter of style. :)

Blake Petit
03-02-2007, 04:51 PM
It's good to know that Rick Olney is finally getting his just desserts.

He approached me in 2004 and asked me to appear at his convention. He was branching out and trying a Horror Movie convention, and since I run two very popular horror related websites and several celebrity forums, he asked me to exhibit my sites at his convention, "The Spooky". At first I thought it was too good to be true, and declined. He got back in touch for a second time, and I became more interested, but stated I couldn't afford the airfare to Syracuse NY, being based in Scotland UK. He said he'd pay my airfare and per diem. So after checking out his Mighty Mini Con site, I accepted...

To cut a long story as short as I can, I developed the convention website for Rick, as a thank-you for him offering to fly me out to his show. I also set up a forum on my website and heavily promoted the show online. My partner on the sites booked a slew of horror guests and the whole time Olney said the show was 110% a green light. Alot of these guests are personal friends of ours, some are not.

About 3 weeks before the show Rick Olney told me the convention was cancelled. This was after he assured me to purchase my flights and he would pay me back. This was after he said the venue was booked up. This was after he said he had the money to pay for all the guest's airfare e.t.c. He actually told me to book my flights... then turned around and said the show was cancelled.

My then girlfriend, now fiancee, and my brother, also purchased flights just to accompany me on the trip. We lost over $1200 combined. I knew I'd never see my money again even though Rick Olney promised a hundred times that he'd reimburse me. Another fan from the UK also purchased flights to the show and had to cancel obviously. Eventually Olney resorted to threatening to sue me if I ever spoke out against him and how he ripped me off and disappointed alot of people. Suffice to say that it was a huge learning curve for me. Only 21 years old and offered something like that, by somebody who at first glance, seemed like the real deal. Too good to be true. This taught me never to trust anybody unless I know I can.

All said and done, I did learn something. And now the money loss doesn't hurt as much. But it really is refreshing to see that Olney has been found out and that people are actually taking action against him. It's about time...

Although what he done hurt the reputations of my websites, and of me, we are now going stronger than ever and set to do our own horror convention in Texas this March. So it feels good that we have prevailed and persevered through bad times in Oct 2004 and now Rick, after threatening to sue me a hundred times, has been caught out.

Best of luck to you all. All the best.
-Rich
Wow -- so Rick is now an international asshat.

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 04:53 PM
Thanks heaps Danny!! :D

Now I just have to wait 10-15 business days and I can stick it to Rick in style. :cool:


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My pleasure!

Wouldn't it be funny if the unscrewed stuff becomes like cult geek wear and if he DOES have his silly little con a bunch of people show up wearing US shirts?

Would he ban them from entry for being plebes?

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 04:53 PM
Wow -- so Rick is now an international asshat.

Asshattery knows no borders.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 04:54 PM
My pleasure!

Wouldn't it be funny if the unscrewed stuff becomes like cult geek wear and if he DOES have his silly little con a bunch of people show up wearing US shirts?

Would he ban them from entry for being plebes?

I assure you...if he holds a con, he will be the ONLY person there. He will have no guests.

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 04:54 PM
Not being fond of rapiers and thin, long blades in general (Give me katanas and bastard swords any day.) I've never seen much point either, but some of them are quite nice, in a novelty sort of way.

I'd much prefer a katana in a longer than needed bamboo sheath to a sword cane, but I guess that's a matter of style. :)
My wrists (like my other joints) are complete crap, and snap down if I lift anything that is too heavy and extends too far; no ability to stabilise.

So, I was able to manage a military-issue, uh, korean blade -- I think it was korean, it was used in some war or other and was really light and superbly balanced, I think the handle was wrapped in straw, wide thin blade -- and a long wakizashi, but not a full-length katana unless my wrist was so taped up as to disallow proper movement.

Of course, with my bad eyesight nowadays, I'd put some harmless bystander's eye out before I hit my target, I'm sure.

Yonar
03-02-2007, 05:02 PM
My wrists (like my other joints) are complete crap, and snap down if I lift anything that is too heavy and extends too far; no ability to stabilise.

So, I was able to manage a military-issue, uh, korean blade -- I think it was korean, it was used in some war or other and was really light and superbly balanced, I think the handle was wrapped in straw, wide thin blade -- and a long wakizashi, but not a full-length katana unless my wrist was so taped up as to disallow proper movement.

Of course, with my bad eyesight nowadays, I'd put some harmless bystander's eye out before I hit my target, I'm sure.


Take up Tai Chi sword. ;) It's awesome.

Of course, it's probably not much help to all the other joint problems, but it is one of the lighter swords out there, and there are variants of it which are quite light which were called 'womens swords' traditionally, so they may be easier for you to wield. But still, rapiers aren't terribly bad, just not my style. Give me a sabre if you must. :)

DarrenCawsey
03-02-2007, 05:06 PM
Yes, but to be fair, most of the posts are about Danny's hat.

Gail

But it's a cool hat.


My fiancée tried to get me a Jayne hat, but the one she got is a tad small for my ginormous head and I look a little silly wearing it, so kudos to Danny for pulling it off.


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DarrenCawsey
03-02-2007, 05:07 PM
To be fair, it is quite cunning.

I balance out Matt! He's our captain! ;)


Our own Captain tight-pants?! :eek:


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Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 05:09 PM
Our own Captain tight-pants?! :eek:


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I have the ass.

Yonar
03-02-2007, 05:12 PM
I have the ass.

Careful, or Bert will want to steal it from you.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 05:14 PM
Careful, or Bert will want to steal it from you.

He may have to fight Papergirl.

Unless they team up....?

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 05:14 PM
Take up Tai Chi sword. ;) It's awesome.

Once I can afford one-on-one lessons. sure. XD

Paul D. Storrie
03-02-2007, 05:30 PM
Yes, but to be fair, most of the posts are about Danny's hat.

Gail

But it's a cunning hat, don't you think?

PDS

Paul D. Storrie
03-02-2007, 05:36 PM
To be fair, it is quite cunning.

Gorrram, ya beat me to it!

PDS

Papergirl
03-02-2007, 05:36 PM
He may have to fight Papergirl.

Unless they team up....?

Nah. I don't share. ;)

~Bev

Papergirl
03-02-2007, 05:40 PM
Annnnnnnnd...

I have news.

But I can't share it yet. Not unless I'm told I can.

:p

~Bev
Who loooooooooves teasing you all mercilessly!

KevinTBrown
03-02-2007, 05:54 PM
Annnnnnnnd...

I have news.

But I can't share it yet. Not unless I'm told I can.

:p

~Bev
Who loooooooooves teasing you all mercilessly!

Ok, you tell if you want. :)








Oh, you mean someone specific has to tell you, not just anyone..... :o

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 06:01 PM
Ok, you tell if you want. :)








Oh, you mean someone specific has to tell you, not just anyone..... :o

I know what it is!

Papergirl
03-02-2007, 06:05 PM
Ok, you tell if you want. :)








Oh, you mean someone specific has to tell you, not just anyone..... :o
Just for you, Kevin, I will spill the beans.


That, and Shelly told me I could.

So, without further ado...

Unscrewed just made it's first $100!

We sold our first ad space to a very worthy cause! Go to the Unscrewed site and click the pretty ad as soon as Shelly gets it working! :D

~Bev

Papergirl
03-02-2007, 06:07 PM
I know what it is!
Yeah, but only because I was shouting for joy loud enough, you could practically hear me all the way in Lakeland! :p

~Bev

Darediva
03-02-2007, 06:20 PM
I SO hate you right now!

I have three canes now: one looks like a regular black cane, one has a metal skull on the end, and the last one has a bone skull w/ a horn sticking out of it.

All of the canes have a blade in them. The regular black one has 2 blades.

Yeah, I like edged weapons.

Anyway, THAT is a nice cane, and now I have to have it.

Thanks.

-(needs more canes) llama

The only one it looks like I'll be having is something like this (http://californiacanes.com/Rigid_Canes.html) if things continue as they are. But, I could get a spiffy one like Matt Murdock!

DocAbsurd
03-02-2007, 06:21 PM
Yeah Gail, he took advantage of me, pretty much. I am a horror movie fan, and I do my sites as a labour of love, so for somebody to come along and offer what Rick offered, was overwhelming, and blinding. I learned my lesson.

It's just great to know that people have stood up to him. Refreshing.

I remember Olney talking about you, Rich. At that point, it was only positive and to the point of drooling. 'Course, the Spooky soaked a lotta good people. He had advertised for a sorta mini-reunion of the cast of either Halloween or Friday the 13th, including the original monster (wish I could remember which movie it was).

I'm beginning to suspect he only 'wished' he had as many confirmed guests as he advertised; if he had really canceled on so many 'names', he'd have had a lawsuit long before we came along.

If Olney does have one talent -- apart from pathetic Mary-Sue-isms and derivative regurgitated pablum -- it's in seeking out those who don't simply have a talent for their medium, but an absolute passion for it. Yeah, granted, he suckered us all in with grandiose promises that he could never have expected to fulfill; but look around this thread.

I've seen more untapped talent pooling around here than attended the last Artists' Alley. I've seriously considered packing up my drawing stuff when I compare myself to the rest of youse.

Read it an weep, Olney. We coulda been making something of your pathetic creative diarreah.




Doc 'Flush Twice' Absurd

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 06:25 PM
Asshattery knows no borders.

Asshattery? C'mon, you made that up.

Rich_Carlin
03-02-2007, 06:28 PM
I remember Olney talking about you, Rich. At that point, it was only positive and to the point of drooling. 'Course, the Spooky soaked a lotta good people. He had advertised for a sorta mini-reunion of the cast of either Halloween or Friday the 13th, including the original monster (wish I could remember which movie it was).

I'm beginning to suspect he only 'wished' he had as many confirmed guests as he advertised; if he had really canceled on so many 'names', he'd have had a lawsuit long before we came along.

If Olney does have one talent -- apart from pathetic Mary-Sue-isms and derivative regurgitated pablum -- it's in seeking out those who don't simply have a talent for their medium, but an absolute passion for it. Yeah, granted, he suckered us all in with grandiose promises that he could never have expected to fulfill; but look around this thread.

I've seen more untapped talent pooling around here than attended the last Artists' Alley. I've seriously considered packing up my drawing stuff when I compare myself to the rest of youse.

Read it an weep, Olney. We coulda been making something of your pathetic creative diarreah.




Doc 'Flush Twice' Absurd


Hey Doc, it was a small Friday the 13th (Part 2) reunion. We arranged the guests, some of which we are close friends with, and Rick was supposed to arrange their travel and accommodation. But he didn't. His excuse at the end of it all was that we booked too many guests to the point where he could not afford to put the show on, however, prior to that he asked us to book a specific amount, which we never exceeded. Basically, he was full of shit. He pissed off alot of people with the Spooky, but nothing ever came of it, because no contracts were ever written up.

Linkara
03-02-2007, 06:32 PM
People are surprised I'm 19? Wow, I would've figured we had some 18s or 17s at least here...

Sorry that Olney has another name on his list of people he's screwed over, but I'm glad to see we've got more supporters for the cause. ^^

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 06:32 PM
I really don't understand wtf he was trying to do. If he knows he can't put on a con, why do it?

The feeling of power at jerking industry pros because he couldn't actually hack being one himself?

Gail Simone
03-02-2007, 06:42 PM
I keep saying. Rick's biggest motivator is a desire to be seen as important. He goes on and on for hours about people he's barely even met who wouldn't remember him if he was taped to their heads, as if these same were his best friends who find him fascinating and important.

I mean, at the same time he was telling me I was being mean by asking he pay me back the money I'd shelled out of my own pocket, he was telling OTHER people we were close friends.

That sweaty, droopy NEED to feel like a 'big wheel' in comics is all over him like a cheap suit. I think if he honestly took a look at what people REALLY think of him, he'd implode like a dying star.

So he makes these huge promises for the momentary gratification of seeming like a somebody instead of what he really is. He might have some dim spot in his brain where he thinks these events will magically somehow pay for themselves...but he's cheated so many people at this point that you can no longer use that for an excuse. It's repulsive that he just goes hunting for new people to cheat after each round of scam behavior.

That's why I think it's important to keep this thread going. Here we have two new people in the past few hours who were also cheated, which again shows that this is Rick's PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR: Lie big, cheat everyone, threaten constantly, move on to new victims.

He can't be allowed to keep doing this.

Gail

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 06:46 PM
I really don't understand wtf he was trying to do. If he knows he can't put on a con, why do it?

The feeling of power at jerking industry pros because he couldn't actually hack being one himself?

He is insane.

I keep saying. Rick's biggest motivator is a desire to be seen as important. He goes on and on for hours about people he's barely even met who wouldn't remember him if he was taped to their heads, as if these same were his best friends who find him fascinating and important.

I mean, at the same time he was telling me I was being mean by asking he pay me back the money I'd shelled out of my own pocket, he was telling OTHER people we were close friends.

That sweaty, droopy NEED to feel like a 'big wheel' in comics is all over him like a cheap suit. I think if he honestly took a look at what people REALLY think of him, he'd implode like a dying star.

So he makes these huge promises for the momentary gratification of seeming like a somebody instead of what he really is. He might have some dim spot in his brain where he thinks these events will magically somehow pay for themselves...but he's cheated so many people at this point that you can no longer use that for an excuse. It's repulsive that he just goes hunting for new people to cheat after each round of scam behavior.

That's why I think it's important to keep this thread going. Here we have two new people in the past few hours who were also cheated, which again shows that this is Rick's PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR: Lie big, cheat everyone, threaten constantly, move on to new victims.

He can't be allowed to keep doing this.

Gail


I will keep doing what I can. And will keep on until he pays everyone and apologizes to everyone.

And bakes me cookies.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 06:47 PM
"wouldn't remember him if he was taped to their heads"

Heh, heh. Now there's an image.

Yonar
03-02-2007, 06:57 PM
I really don't understand wtf he was trying to do. If he knows he can't put on a con, why do it?

The feeling of power at jerking industry pros because he couldn't actually hack being one himself?

The road to hell (And infamy) is paved with good intentions?

I choose to believe that he truly believed himself able to put together a con that he imagined would be worth taking risks on, and discovered he was reaching beyond his grasp.

This isn't evil, it's just stupid.

What is evil is a continued abuse, blaming others for his own failures of planning, and his continued pattern of behaviour.

I'm just constantly amazed at the number of people he has shafted.

Good luck to everyone who is taking future action.

Sally Sensational
03-02-2007, 06:58 PM
He is insane.
I will keep doing what I can. And will keep on until he pays everyone and apologizes to everyone.
And bakes me cookies.

Um, Matt? I don't post here often, but I do keep up.

And, I really, really, really, really wouldn't eat those cookies if they materialize.

EdContradictory
03-02-2007, 07:11 PM
I keep saying. Rick's biggest motivator is a desire to be seen as important.
It's why he keeps saying he has a lawyer.

Important people have lawyers!

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 07:13 PM
The road to hell (And infamy) is paved with good intentions?

I choose to believe that he truly believed himself able to put together a con that he imagined would be worth taking risks on, and discovered he was reaching beyond his grasp.Yeah, but he's done it several times, so at some point it stops being stupid.

I wanna know his motivation. ^^

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 07:30 PM
Um, Matt? I don't post here often, but I do keep up.

And, I really, really, really, really wouldn't eat those cookies if they materialize.

You make a good point.
I want a gift certificate to Amazon, then.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 07:32 PM
Now, for a limited time, YOU can order this amazing collection of solid gold hits! Fuming Elves Productions presents; Contractually Bound [but never released] Oldies. At no time before has there been a collection like this [And thanks to a bunch of cyberbullies, there never will be again]. All the hits that you've never heard [but seem eerily familiar]. Just look at these....

Here's a classic...
Olney the lonely

And then there's...
Why must I be a Tightlipper in debt

Everybody loves...
Classical gas [nuff said]

How could anyone forget...
NDA the still of the night

And just when you thought it couldn't get any better...
Tie a bunch of contracts 'round the Olney tree

Yes, the great ones never go out of style. [Even if they're unknown]

To order this amazing collection, just sign this NDA, and agree to turn over months of your life to the shabby man behind the register [Make his day. Tell him you want it super-sized]. Satisfaction guaranteed or else. Any attempt to discuss this offer in public will result in meaningless threats and streams of incoherent babble. 2007 All rights reserved [and we mean ALL rights].

JTPencils
03-02-2007, 07:34 PM
19?!!! I have clothes older than that.

I hope for your sakes you don't mean yer BVD's as well. That's just..... wrong.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 07:37 PM
I hope for your sakes you don't mean yer BVD's as well. That's just..... wrong.

Please don't compare me to Rick

JTPencils
03-02-2007, 07:44 PM
My pleasure!

Wouldn't it be funny if the unscrewed stuff becomes like cult geek wear and if he DOES have his silly little con a bunch of people show up wearing US shirts?

Would he ban them from entry for being plebes?

He'd never turn away a "paying customer" for his show... so he'd probably just make them turn it inside out or something, while they're in the showroom area. Or he'd make them sign NDA's stating that if anyone asked what the shirt's all about... that they couldn't tell the story behind it.

JTPencils
03-02-2007, 07:51 PM
He is insane.




I will keep doing what I can. And will keep on until he pays everyone and apologizes to everyone.

And bakes me cookies.

As I said to Bev the other day Matt... seems to me you're going to be Rick's personal pit bull for the rest of his days, with at least 4 dedicated teeth chomped squarely in his ass until he gives up in total defeat.

As for the cookies... you really wouldn't eat his cooking now... would ya? C'mon! You should know better.

JTPencils
03-02-2007, 07:54 PM
Now, for a limited time, YOU can order this amazing collection of solid gold hits! Fuming Elves Productions presents; Contractually Bound [but never released] Oldies. At no time before has there been a collection like this [And thanks to a bunch of cyberbullies, there never will be again]. All the hits that you've never heard [but seem eerily familiar]. Just look at these....

Here's a classic...
Olney the lonely

And then there's...
Why must I be a Tightlipper in debt

Everybody loves...
Classical gas [nuff said]

How could anyone forget...
NDA the still of the night

And just when you thought it couldn't get any better...
Tie a bunch of contracts 'round the Olney tree

Yes, the great ones never go out of style. [Even if they're unknown]

To order this amazing collection, just sign this NDA, and agree to turn over months of your life to the shabby man behind the register [Make his day. Tell him you want it super-sized]. Satisfaction guaranteed or else. Any attempt to discuss this offer in public will result in meaningless threats and streams of incoherent babble. 2007 All rights reserved [and we mean ALL rights].

You mean they left off...
"Why don't we get drunk... and post"?

I'd order up a copy, but I've already got the master tapes for all those. Besides... I'd rather see if I can get the dirty versions on Limewire instead.

SUPERECWFAN1
03-02-2007, 07:55 PM
I keep saying. Rick's biggest motivator is a desire to be seen as important. He goes on and on for hours about people he's barely even met who wouldn't remember him if he was taped to their heads, as if these same were his best friends who find him fascinating and important.

I mean, at the same time he was telling me I was being mean by asking he pay me back the money I'd shelled out of my own pocket, he was telling OTHER people we were close friends.

That sweaty, droopy NEED to feel like a 'big wheel' in comics is all over him like a cheap suit. I think if he honestly took a look at what people REALLY think of him, he'd implode like a dying star.

So he makes these huge promises for the momentary gratification of seeming like a somebody instead of what he really is. He might have some dim spot in his brain where he thinks these events will magically somehow pay for themselves...but he's cheated so many people at this point that you can no longer use that for an excuse. It's repulsive that he just goes hunting for new people to cheat after each round of scam behavior.

That's why I think it's important to keep this thread going. Here we have two new people in the past few hours who were also cheated, which again shows that this is Rick's PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR: Lie big, cheat everyone, threaten constantly, move on to new victims.

He can't be allowed to keep doing this.

Gail

Mick Foley always had this line : " They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire ! "

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 07:57 PM
As I said to Bev the other day Matt... seems to me you're going to be Rick's personal pit bull for the rest of his days, with at least 4 dedicated teeth chomped squarely in his ass until he gives up in total defeat.


Truer words have never been spoken.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 07:58 PM
Well, I did leave off the all-time classic

BORN TO BE A TIGHTWAD

Ronée
03-02-2007, 08:11 PM
Aww thank you! You're good for my shattered, shattered ego!

How do you make the little ' over the e? maybe I'll just cut and paste. :p

Hit and hold the ALT key and with the num lock on, hit 0233 on your number pad....

CLC GraphiX
03-02-2007, 08:16 PM
I can't wait to hear his bullshit excuses about how cheating you and Rich is somehow your fault.

Bleah.

Gail


It's amazing...I saved all those emails, and after reading through them, I can see that it boiled down to my "agenda of hate" that caused his con(s) to fail. :rolleyes:

While I don't like to post private emails, I have to leave this little snippet from one of Olney's last emails (before I blocked him):

"I couldn't help how The Spooky folded in 2004 and
2005, but I'll gladly make you and all others eat crow
with a fantastic product and opportunity to bring in
the crowds. I certainly wish you well. How do you like
yours. Medium rare, or well done?"

Pretty damn cocky for a guy that's by all accounts a liar and total failure.

Darediva
03-02-2007, 08:19 PM
Well, I did leave off the all-time classic

BORN TO BE A TIGHTWAD

Very funny...it should also include "Up against the wall RedNeck Muthah"?

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 08:23 PM
Very funny...it should also include "Up against the wall RedNeck Muthah"?

Maybe even..
I ignored the Sheriff's summons

Linkara
03-02-2007, 08:32 PM
So, I was talking to my mother yesterday and while I can't remember the names of the individuals involved, there was a similar case going on with a liberal Professor and a conservatve/libertarian blogger. The Professor decided to try to make posts on the blogger's forum, starting out fairly comprehensible (albeit she loved to use ebonics and l33t-speech), but after awhile she just became incoherent and started making threats against the blogger and his family. Why do I make the comparison here? Well, it seems that eventually the blogger, rightfully fearful for the protection of his family, hired a lawyer and contacted the college where the Professor was working to inform them of her dealings. The Professor then got herself a lawyer of her own and the lawyer told her to stop making posts on the subject. And what did the Professor do? She totally ignored her lawyer's warnings and even began to bash her own lawyer for making such suggestions.

And the moral of the story is that it's entirely possible Mr. Olney does indeed have a lawyer... it's just he's so freakishly stupid that he doesn't pay attention to him. ^_~

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 08:33 PM
For all that he says he loves the industry... he sure does have a chip on his shoulder about the people in it.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 08:35 PM
So, I was talking to my mother yesterday and while I can't remember the names of the individuals involved, there was a similar case going on with a liberal Professor and a conservatve/libertarian blogger. The Professor decided to try to make posts on the blogger's forum, starting out fairly comprehensible (albeit she loved to use ebonics and l33t-speech), but after awhile she just became incoherent and started making threats against the blogger and his family. Why do I make the comparison here? Well, it seems that eventually the blogger, rightfully fearful for the protection of his family, hired a lawyer and contacted the college where the Professor was working to inform them of her dealings. The Professor then got herself a lawyer of her own and the lawyer told her to stop making posts on the subject. And what did the Professor do? She totally ignored her lawyer's warnings and even began to bash her own lawyer for making such suggestions.

And the moral of the story is that it's entirely possible Mr. Olney does indeed have a lawyer... it's just he's so freakishly stupid that he doesn't pay attention to him. ^_~

But unlike Rick, this person was actually willing to put out money for a lawyer

Yonar
03-02-2007, 08:36 PM
Hit and hold the ALT key and with the num lock on, hit 0233 on your number pad....

although, you could copy from the quote button, you could also open up word, and hit ctrl ` then hit e. It also works on other letters too.

Though Ronée is correct, that is the proper code for the accented e.

EDIT: Sorry, got the wrong direction for that one. ctrl ' is the proper combination. :)

SUPERECWFAN1
03-02-2007, 08:37 PM
So, I was talking to my mother yesterday and while I can't remember the names of the individuals involved, there was a similar case going on with a liberal Professor and a conservatve/libertarian blogger. The Professor decided to try to make posts on the blogger's forum, starting out fairly comprehensible (albeit she loved to use ebonics and l33t-speech), but after awhile she just became incoherent and started making threats against the blogger and his family. Why do I make the comparison here? Well, it seems that eventually the blogger, rightfully fearful for the protection of his family, hired a lawyer and contacted the college where the Professor was working to inform them of her dealings. The Professor then got herself a lawyer of her own and the lawyer told her to stop making posts on the subject. And what did the Professor do? She totally ignored her lawyer's warnings and even began to bash her own lawyer for making such suggestions.

And the moral of the story is that it's entirely possible Mr. Olney does indeed have a lawyer... it's just he's so freakishly stupid that he doesn't pay attention to him. ^_~


If he has a lawyer it'll ne news to Ronee who has even said she'd go along with whatever he wanted as long as she got his contact info. Then he said she'd have it on a Monday. He just never said what date...:p

Papergirl
03-02-2007, 08:51 PM
*AHEM!!!*

I SAID:

Unscrewed just made it's first $100!

We sold our first ad space to a very worthy cause! Go to the Unscrewed site and click the pretty ad as soon as Shelly gets it working! :D

Sheesh. Am I the ONLY one here happy about this?

~Bev

sk716
03-02-2007, 08:52 PM
*AHEM!!!*

I SAID:



Sheesh. Am I the ONLY one here happy about this?

~Bev

Er, yay!

I'm too tired to be excited about anything.

Linkara
03-02-2007, 08:53 PM
*AHEM!!!*

I SAID:



Sheesh. Am I the ONLY one here happy about this?

~Bev

Sorry, sorry! ^^;; *Hugs Peeg in celebration and passes around rum.*

Yonar
03-02-2007, 08:56 PM
Sorry, I was kind of drooling over canes. That's great news!

JTPencils
03-02-2007, 08:57 PM
*AHEM!!!*

I SAID:



Sheesh. Am I the ONLY one here happy about this?

~Bev

Awesome Bev. I would kick in there as well. But I don't have a banner (or even a website)... so it would be sort of silly!

Darediva
03-02-2007, 09:00 PM
Excellent! Every journey begins with the first step, and now that's been made! You guys rock!

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 09:01 PM
Just think Bev, that means Unscrewed has made more already than Rick has in his [cough, cough]comics career.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 09:01 PM
*AHEM!!!*

I SAID:



Sheesh. Am I the ONLY one here happy about this?

~Bev
*strokes Bev's ego*

Nice job, Bev,... Good job, Bev...Have a cookie?

Papergirl
03-02-2007, 09:03 PM
*strokes Bev's ego*

Nice job, Bev,... Good job, Bev...Have a cookie?
Only if it's chocolate chip. :p

~Bev

SteveForbes
03-02-2007, 09:07 PM
sword canes worth noting..

Ivory Ball (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/90841.html)

Silver Ball (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/90867.html)

And the excellent Naked Lady sword (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/90888.html)!

The rest of their selection (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/Weapon_Sword_Canes.html)..

Yonar, I want you to know that you're near the top of my "hate" list, too!

-(don't have enough money for all the damn canes) llama

Gail Simone
03-02-2007, 09:14 PM
It's amazing...I saved all those emails, and after reading through them, I can see that it boiled down to my "agenda of hate" that caused his con(s) to fail. :rolleyes:

While I don't like to post private emails, I have to leave this little snippet from one of Olney's last emails (before I blocked him):

"I couldn't help how The Spooky folded in 2004 and
2005, but I'll gladly make you and all others eat crow
with a fantastic product and opportunity to bring in
the crowds. I certainly wish you well. How do you like
yours. Medium rare, or well done?"

Pretty damn cocky for a guy that's by all accounts a liar and total failure.

Yep.

To Rick, IMAGINING a victory is the same as having one. We see him pull this often, and of course, he hasn't the money or skills to actually achieve anything at all, so he just ends up looking impotent and screechy.

And I understand about the email, but threats and lies are a different matter, and he obviously had no moral decency when dealing with you, you know?

What a weirdo.

Welcome to our club! :)

Gail

Gail Simone
03-02-2007, 09:16 PM
*AHEM!!!*

I SAID:



Sheesh. Am I the ONLY one here happy about this?

~Bev

You're right, I suck.

YAY!


Man, can you imagine what a dirtwad you have to be that the industry actually has to have an auction for the people you've worked with?

Gail

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 09:16 PM
*AHEM!!!*

I SAID:



Sheesh. Am I the ONLY one here happy about this?

~Bev

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I'm semi concious....

Much like Shelly, I am so tired best I can muster is a small smile and even THAT makes me yawn! lol.

I promise to be fully Hammy'd up after a nice nap.

(I still need to see that movie)

Yay for money! I'm going to be picking up ad space as soon as I can get the information from the places I wanted! ^_^

I think my e-mail's gone funny I'm not getting half of what I should.

Thanks for the text info Ronée! If I forget how to do that neat little trick I'll just copy and paste! lol.

*_*

Soooooooooooooooooo tired.

Guapo Méndez
03-02-2007, 09:17 PM
Hit and hold the ALT key and with the num lock on, hit 0233 on your number pad....

You can also try holding ALT and hit 130 on your number pad.

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 09:21 PM
Man, can you imagine what a dirtwad you have to be that the industry actually has to have an auction for the people you've worked with?

Gail

Speaking of, did you see what Scott's Captain Carrot is going for?

JEEZE. People have a made love for that bunny.

Alley Kat-Dabra isn't doing too bad either. And the more news stories that come out about the new Capt. Carrot series with Bill Morrison this summer more people will flock to it.

I wonder if scott would do a follow up drawing where Captain Carrot battles Bucky O'Hare that'd be awesome.

:)

TomStillwell
03-02-2007, 09:24 PM
You're right, I suck.

YAY!


Man, can you imagine what a dirtwad you have to be that the industry actually has to have an auction for the people you've worked with?

Gail

That's not from the auction. It's from the wonderful Shel selling ad space on the Unscrewed! site. Yay Shel!

But yeah, the auction. An auction to benefit people someone screwed over. I explained it to someone at work and they were dumbfounded.

But the good news is the auction is hot, hot, hot! If all items up right ended their bidding we'd have something like $900! And this is just the first wave of items.

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 09:25 PM
Yay unscrewings! :3

CutterMike
03-02-2007, 09:26 PM
How do you make the little ' over the e? maybe I'll just cut and paste. :p

Are you on Mac or Windows? On Mac it's Option-e, then type the e again without the option key.

Mathemagically, it's: "(option e) + e = é"

(The magic "option-e" also works with a (á), i(í), o(ó), and u(ú) (but not Y or w).

If you're using Windows, I have no clue.

(The Graphics Geek Strikes Again!)

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 09:30 PM
Last time I will check...does anyone know who the person was that got paid by Rick Olney?


Someone did...once.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 09:31 PM
Yay unscrewings! :3

I am usually all FOR a good screwing. But I am like that.
:evilsmile

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 09:34 PM
Last time I will check...does anyone know who the person was that got paid by Rick Olney?


Someone did...once.

Only person I know was a letterer who was doing some clocks for Tightlip. He got reimbursed for the clocks, but not time and effort.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 09:35 PM
Only person I know was a letterer who was doing some clocks for Tightlip. He got reimbursed for the clocks, but not time and effort.

I need to talk with him. remember who it was?

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 09:41 PM
I need to talk with him. remember who it was?

His name was Chris. Don't remember his last name. He posted a LONG history of his experiences further back in this thread. Look up Uncannythings in the members list.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 09:49 PM
His name was Chris. Don't remember his last name. He posted a LONG history of his experiences further back in this thread. Look up Uncannythings in the members list.

Awesome!! Thank you!

Cam63
03-02-2007, 09:51 PM
Man, can you imagine what a dirtwad you have to be that the industry actually has to have an auction for the people you've worked with?

Gail

Mother Teresa is the only other person who springs to mind.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 09:53 PM
Awesome!! Thank you!

Must be all that training I got as Rick's creative director..cough, cough.

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 09:54 PM
His name was Chris. Don't remember his last name. He posted a LONG history of his experiences further back in this thread. Look up Uncannythings in the members list.

the fact he got a dime out of Rick is Uncanny enough...

I wonder if Uatu showed up...

"In all my eons of watching, I have seen worlds born and worlds die. I've seen rivers boil like lava, and the best and worst traits of sentient creatures... Today, I bare witness to something that my when I went to report of these events unfolding my breatheren raised up declaring 'you gotta be shittin' me'.... lo, the Watchers are scraping the bottom of the barrel these days, but still this is very exciting."

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 09:55 PM
I am usually all FOR a good screwing. But I am like that.
:evilsmile

Are you trying to seduce me? XD

Cam63
03-02-2007, 09:55 PM
Rich,

I am constantly amazed by this, that more and more people every week come out with a "Rick Olney lied and cheated" me story. I have taken a TON of shit for this thread, from people who essentially would think rolling over and staying quiet would somehow have the same impact as staying on point about Rick's scumbaggery. I suggest that if they could keep quiet after hearing about all the people who got screwed, there's something wrong with THEM, not the people on this thread. Me, I get angry every time I hear a story like yours.

How DARE he screw you and your friends like that? How DARE he threaten and insult you when his idiocy and incompetence caused you definite harm?

Man, I still feel guilty for bad things I did in elementary school and this idiot manages to sleep at night after having threated people he's cheated and lied to repeatedly.

Disgusting.

Anything I can ever do for you or your site, you let me know.

Rick? You're a swine. The industry LOATHES you. You will NEVER be able to pull this crap on people again, and you're going to pay for your many, many lies and scams.

Gail

How can we fit all of that on a T shirt ?

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal
03-02-2007, 09:56 PM
*AHEM!!!*

I SAID:



Sheesh. Am I the ONLY one here happy about this?

~Bev

Hip Hip HOORAY!!!! Here's hoping much more is to come. Heck I wish I had the sheckles to buy one myself, or even better, bid on some of that awesome stuff in the auction.

Being cash poor is always a pain but I find as I get older its the fact I can't do more things for others that I find the most frustrating.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:00 PM
Are you trying to seduce me? XD

Hellz, yeah! With a name like Reverend Smooth, I gots to get me some of that.


Word.

SteveForbes
03-02-2007, 10:03 PM
Woohoo! Money is being made!

I've been thinking. (Yeah, I do that sometimes.)

YOR is more done than Ian Micah Wright.

Sure, Mr. Wright lied for years about being a Ranger and was finally caught at it, but he did the responsible thing: he owned up to it and apologized.

I won't say that I'd never buy another of his comics, but I'd think twice about it. I'd think it's safe to say that the general reading public would feel the same way.

Mr. Wright could feasibly make it back into comics. There is a door open for him. It might be small and hard to find, but it's there.

YOR doesn't even have that. Pardon my language, but he's well and truly fucked. Extremely fucked. Actually, I don't think there's a strong enough word in human language to say just how done he is.

I don't think there's been anyone who's done as much to harm themselves BEFORE getting into comics than he has.

I have a published book. It's in my hands. My company is on the cusp of moving forward with another company, and will get our comics into lots of stores and Previews. I have another comic being produced right now, with a third waiting in the wings. (I've also teamed up with an artist for the Small Press Idol, and if we win, that's a fourth.) I'd think it's safe to say that I'm "in" comics.

YOR has succeeded in doing the exact opposite of what he's always wanted. He hasn't done anything to hone his "craft" (unless you're talking about lying, cheating, and threatening- I'm not going to add "insulting" there, because he doesn't do that well at all), and he's been at this for an exceptionally long time. It doesn't take much to get a comic produced- before printing and advertising, it can be done with reasonable results for around $1100, and that's full color. Hell, it could be even less, if you're just doing submissions. So it's not hard.

The overwhelming mystery is why won't he do it?

I was an editor at another company, and the elected EIC wanted to write one of his characters as Lex Luthor, but extremely over the top. He also wanted to play this character straight.

While the script itself was boring, this character was unbelivably evil. The character had no motivation- it was just something for him to do. He wasn't realistic.

Enter YOR, stage right.

To me, his reason for not doing the right thing, for not doing it the right way, for basically not doing ANYTHING that would help him, is unfathomable to me. He's like the worst characiture of a comic book villain. From the 60's. If he wasn't so horrific, he'd be sad.

Anyway, the good news is that I've got a job, and I start on Monday. Everything around the house will ease up, and I'm VERY happy about it.

This also means that I will be searching out some of you to get some work done, ya slackers! (I'm looking at you, Doc A. Rev Smooth, I'm just trying to get a project lined up, so don't think you fell out of my sights!) Sarah B., if something else moves forward with another guy I'm talking to, I'll be hitting you up for an interesting business proposition. I'm just waiting to hear back from him on it.

Yes, I have plans. Some of them can be huge. (I can say that because I've taken the time and looked around the industry. There's something lacking, and I want to be in on the ground floor to providing it.) But I also know that I have to start small, and work into things.

I'm finding a way to make my plans come to fruition. Honestly and above board, from my own effort and force of will.

I just wish there was a way to turn YOR away from the Dark Side. (Has anyone come across what's opposite from the Dark Side of the Force in the canon? Either the movies (preferably), or the novels? Just wondering.)

Oh! I plan on getting drunk tomorrow night. Just my wife and I. So, don't expect me on here.

-(kamikaze's are my friend) llama

DocAbsurd
03-02-2007, 10:05 PM
Do a 'thread search' for 'clocks', Matt. You should be able to find the post that way.

I need to really buckle down and start going through all the posts for each person who's mentioned their being Onley-ed. We gotta have a list for the future disbursements.

I am absolutely ecstatic over the bids so far! We're not even finished with the first round yet. He's gotta be some kinda oblivious to be sleeping at night. Completely ignoring the facts that so many of us are speaking up, that his illegal and immoral businesses practices are being exposed, that he's lost 2 court cases -- and there's no doubt that several more are lining up -- and that he has become a literal laughing stock of the 'hobby' he so loudly proclaims to love, people are willing to part with their hard-earned savings to correct his mistakes. That knowledge alone would eat my soul.

We still need more contributors for the anthology, though, so start pushing the idea everywhere you go. Maybe we need a separate release for submissions, Danny?

I just told Momma about the ad sale, Bev. She is genuinely impressed. I'm still giddy.

And Gail, thank you. Thank you for shining a safe spotlight that's allowed so many of us orphans to crawl out from under Olney's rather massive shadow. Personally speaking, if you hadn't said something I'd probably still be swallowing the fetid chum he's dumping into our creative waters.




Doc 'BOO-Yeah' Absurd

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:05 PM
How can we fit all of that on a T shirt ?

Not too easily...

CutterMike
03-02-2007, 10:07 PM
To be fair, it is quite cunning.

It is, indeed, Danny.

Of course, without the shirt (http://www.flickr.com/photos/65315545@N00/408420743/), you're only half-dressed.

For Christmas '05, I got a friend to knit the hat for my daughter and I recreated the shirt from a screen-grab, spending many hours in Freehand and Photoshop. Both were, of course, in a nicely gift-wrapped box, packed with wood shavings, along with a copy of the screen-grab.

I love it when I make my daughter go "SQUEEE!".

(We then had to explain to my mother, who knits, and who knows my friend's work; "Yes, Amy made the hat, and we KNOW she can do better than that - but it's *SUPPOSED* to look cheesy!")

----------

Not that anyone's gonna see this, now; but I *REALLY* want to get this to work, so let's try this:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/65315545@N00/408420743/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/408420743_77bac812c2_b.jpg" width="768" height="1024" alt="IMG_0863" /></a>

Kurt Busiek
03-02-2007, 10:07 PM
Last time I will check...does anyone know who the person was that got paid by Rick Olney?

The guy who made the custom clocks got reimbursed for some materials.

Someone else got reimbursed for sending out some kind of promo thing.

But the only payments I remember coming up on the thread were reimbursements, not actual payments for services.

kdb

SteveForbes
03-02-2007, 10:08 PM
We still need more contributors for the anthology, though, so start pushing the idea everywhere you go. Maybe we need a separate release for submissions, Danny?

Doc 'BOO-Yeah' Absurd

Doc, tell me where to go and page length, and I'll see what I can do. I'll even postpone getting my drunk on to plot something out.

-(always willing to help) llama

Cam63
03-02-2007, 10:12 PM
Not too easily...

How about " I've been Olneyed and I'm mad as Hell " ?

CutterMike
03-02-2007, 10:14 PM
I want to create a company called 'Go To Hell' so that I can answer the phone, "Hello, Go to hell, who is it?"

Acyually, the one that cheeses me off is that someone is just SITTING on a domain that I thought would be fun to have.

I wanted "alloneword.com" so I could tell people: "Go to "alloneword" - that's all one word - dot com."

...What can I say; I'm easily amused...

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 10:14 PM
How about " I've been Olneyed and I'm mad as Hell " ?

Howabout "Dammit, Olney! THis shirt goes on your tab too"?

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:22 PM
How about " I've been Olneyed and I'm mad as Hell " ?

http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.113022680


and don't forget the others...

http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin

Cam63
03-02-2007, 10:27 PM
http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.113022680


and don't forget the others...

http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin

What a freakin' coincidence.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:30 PM
What a freakin' coincidence.

'mazin...isn't it?

Cam63
03-02-2007, 10:30 PM
I nearly put my beer down.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 10:32 PM
I nearly put my beer down.

Wonder if Rick did the same when he read it?

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:33 PM
Wonder if Rick did the same when he read it?

He's not posting madness, so I guess he did.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 10:37 PM
He's not posting madness, so I guess he did.

I think your happy meal scared him off

CutterMike
03-02-2007, 10:38 PM
Oh my god. It's like a lightsaber AND a cane (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/80604.html)! *_____*

MDM: Only to cool people.

It *IS* sweet looking, Rev., but I suspect that it's designed for people who don't really *NEED* a stick.
As a long-time walking-stick user - even BEFORE I got my leg whacked by a car while crossing the street - I personally don't trust a stick that has that many joints to it - too many potential points of failure, in my book.

My current most-used is a basic wood with a brass knob-style head. The head is about four inches long below the slightly flat knob, with three rings spaced down the length of the extension. The head screws over a brass ferrule that is mounted with screws on the wooden shaft. I drilled a couple of extra holes into the mounting ferrule and added extra screws so that the head is *REALLY* secure.

One of the reasons for doing this (besides the obvious one of not having the thing come loose at an inopportunr moment) is that the arrangement of the knob and rings - by sheer coincidence, I'm sure <gr>- gives it a really good fencing-style grip and I dabbled briefly with foil and saber in college.

Cam63
03-02-2007, 10:40 PM
Reek is one of those sad buggers who gets enjoyment out of any attention.

If he was sent to Cuba as a suspected terrorist, he'd be beside himself with some kind of joy.

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 10:41 PM
Hellz, yeah! With a name like Reverend Smooth, I gots to get me some of that.


Word.
Get down, get funky. ^___^

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:42 PM
I think your happy meal scared him off

That could be why he skipped court. Makes as much sense as anything.

Maybe his Civil Lawyers decided that the cases could be ignored. They are waiting for a more opportune time to strike back at us Trolls and Plebes.

What do YOU have to say, peanut?

We miss you...come back and rant!

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:42 PM
Get down, get funky. ^___^

I am SOOOO white.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 10:42 PM
Reek is one of those sad buggers who gets enjoyment out of any attention.

If he was sent to Cuba as a suspected terrorist, he'd be beside himself with some kind of joy.

With his sense of geography, he'd think he could drive there

Cam63
03-02-2007, 10:43 PM
I think your happy meal scared him off

No. If Reek was there, he would've done one of them Matrix style slow motion twisting dives and devoured it straight from Matt's hand as he posed for the camera.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:45 PM
No. If Reek was there, he would've done one of them Matrix style slow motion twisting dives and devoured it straight from Matt's hand as he posed for the camera.

The day where peanut is faster than me is the day i pack it in.

I could be asleep and keep up with him.

Danny Donovan
03-02-2007, 10:46 PM
We miss you...come back and rant!


Oooooooooooh no! Remember when Sarah made her wish?

4 hours of no one getting anything done because of that trainwreck of intelligence. (or lack there of on the part of Orca)

He can stay right where he is, taking imaginary meetings, and e-mailing his imaginary friends.

"Hey, hotbabe90453 wants me to come see her cam site! I wonder if she'd like to come to my convention?"

Cam63
03-02-2007, 10:47 PM
I've seen the uncanny powers of the gluttonous, Matt.

You'd be lucky if you kept your hand.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:47 PM
Oooooooooooh no! Remember when Sarah made her wish?

4 hours of no one getting anything done because of that trainwreck of intelligence. (or lack there of on the part of Orca)

He can stay right where he is, taking imaginary meetings, and e-mailing his imaginary friends.

"Hey, hotbabe90453 wants me to come see her cam site! I wonder if she'd like to come to my convention?"

"another MySpace friend! I am so well loved!"

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:48 PM
I've seen the uncanny powers of the gluttonous, Matt.

You'd be lucky if you kept your hand.

Weird..I can imagine my hand near his mouth.

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 10:48 PM
One of the reasons for doing this (besides the obvious one of not having the thing come loose at an inopportunr moment) is that the arrangement of the knob and rings - by sheer coincidence, I'm sure <gr>- gives it a really good fencing-style grip and I dabbled briefly with foil and saber in college.XD

Its unrealistic for me to get a cane for heavy-duty long-distance use, I can move around upright for about five, ten minutes before I go down.

I'd want something durable anyway, but having something blingy's just as good when I want to be all flash and no substance, which I will when I can start socialising again. ^^

But comment noted and heeded. My main gripe with canes is that I can't stand most of the grips on them. So uncomfortable. I have to wrap padding around the handles all the time.

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 10:49 PM
I am SOOOO white.
Play that funky music, white boy!

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 10:50 PM
I've seen the uncanny powers of the gluttonous, Matt.

You'd be lucky if you kept your hand.

My money's on Matt

Cam63
03-02-2007, 10:50 PM
Oooooooooooh no! Remember when Sarah made her wish?

4 hours of no one getting anything done because of that trainwreck of intelligence. (or lack there of on the part of Orca)

He can stay right where he is, taking imaginary meetings, and e-mailing his imaginary friends.

"Hey, hotbabe90453 wants me to come see her cam site! I wonder if she'd like to come to my convention?"

He has his Eisner Award acceptance speech at hand 24/7.

Matt Doc Martin
03-02-2007, 10:51 PM
My money's on Matt

Smart bet. Matt appears twice where Rick should have been.

Matt 2, Rick 0.

Cam63
03-02-2007, 10:52 PM
Weird..I can imagine my hand near his mouth.

Avoid hitting the teeth.

Bad infections have been known to result in amputations.

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 10:55 PM
Avoid hitting the teeth.

Bad infections have been known to result in amputations.

The hot air coming from Rick keeps his teeth sterile.

Cam63
03-02-2007, 10:58 PM
Maybe he could make a living blowing up balloons, then ?

Inkpot1965
03-02-2007, 10:59 PM
Maybe he could make a living blowing up balloons, then ?

Nah, like everything he touches, they would sink to the ground.

CutterMike
03-02-2007, 11:01 PM
Has anyone come across what's opposite from the Dark Side of the Force ...

Opposite the Dark Side is the Sticky Side.

Oh, wait...

That's not the Force - that's Duct Tape.

Never mind.

Reverend Smooth
03-02-2007, 11:09 PM
that's Duct Tape.Good for the removal of back hair from unscrupulous individuals.

Cam63
03-02-2007, 11:11 PM
Good for the removal of back hair from unscrupulous individuals.

Napalm works better.

CutterMike
03-02-2007, 11:28 PM
My main gripe with canes is that I can't stand most of the grips on them. So uncomfortable. I have to wrap padding around the handles all the time.

Another reason to look for a fairly simple knob-style. The one I mentioned is, as noted, a flattened doorknob-shape, so my palm rests flat on it and I can control it with just the fingertips. If I need to, I can really lean on it and just wrap my fingers a bit tighter around the handle for total control. Most of the crook or "saddle" types feel too thin to me and I don't like the offset -I want to be able to put my weight straight downwards on the tip, if needs be.

Of course, sometimes it IS hard to maintain one's cool-factor if one is using an un-blinged stick...

The summer after my accident, some friends had come up for the music festival I mentioned some pages back. His wife had gone off into one of the downtown shops, and my daughter and her mom had disppeared somewhere, so my friend (whom I've known since college) and I found a vacant bench and sat down to wait for one of them to come back. Now, I was carrying the stick because i HAD been whacked by a car a few months previously, and HE was using a stick at the time because he was having problems with heel spurs.

Suddenly, we both looked at each other with the same horrified expression because we had both clearly had the same thought at the exact same instant: "Dear God - we've become two old men with canes sitting on the park bench - WHEN THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN!??!"

And then I said, very quietly,"Shoot me... Just shoot me now..."

Cam63
03-02-2007, 11:38 PM
My question is this:

If the rumours have been around that Olney is a completely unscrupulous arsehole for years/decades, what possessed people to ever do business with him ?

Associating with him re the comic book community is acceptable, but to trust him to PAY for services, that's an entirely different thing.

I've met people face to face in business and if I don't like 'em within a minute, there's no fuckin' way I'd trust them with my money.

Coppervale Studio
03-03-2007, 12:17 AM
My question is this:

If the rumours have been around that Olney is a completely unscrupulous arsehole for years/decades, what possessed people to ever do business with him ?

Associating with him re the comic book community is acceptable, but to trust him to PAY for services, that's an entirely different thing.

I've met people face to face in business and if I don't like 'em within a minute, there's no fuckin' way I'd trust them with my money.

I think that's part of the reason Gail (and her Holy YABS Army) got this thread going - because not enough people connected with enough accounts for new targets to know what they might be in for.

Honestly? The charity thing is a good scam - and gets you thinking benevolently and (no pun) charitably about the guy. And then things just start coming apart at the seams.

I was never involved with him in an employment/freelance capacity - but he approached me on Comicon.com about ORCA. And I responded - but not as favorably as he wanted, and he went bonkers that I wasn't being MORE supportive of his charity efforts. I've almost never posted there since.

Reverend Smooth
03-03-2007, 12:40 AM
Suddenly, we both looked at each other with the same horrified expression because we had both clearly had the same thought at the exact same instant: "Dear God - we've become two old men with canes sitting on the park bench - WHEN THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN!??!"

And then I said, very quietly,"Shoot me... Just shoot me now..."Yeah, I've been getting those moments more and more often. T_T

Reverend Smooth
03-03-2007, 12:43 AM
My question is this:

If the rumours have been around that Olney is a completely unscrupulous arsehole for years/decades, what possessed people to ever do business with him ?

Associating with him re the comic book community is acceptable, but to trust him to PAY for services, that's an entirely different thing.

I've met people face to face in business and if I don't like 'em within a minute, there's no fuckin' way I'd trust them with my money.Did anybody ever talk to each other until this, though, about it?

Coppervale Studio
03-03-2007, 12:49 AM
Did anybody ever talk to each other until this, though, about it?

I think he brought it on himself, this time.

There's a history (waves to Olney Historian Scott Shaw) of his meltdowns and erratic behavior; he's had lots of crash-and-burn plans (cancelled conventions, failure to reimburse folks like Gail).

But what he did here — commissioning work, then using deception to try to weasel out of paying, THEN attacking the people to who he owed money — is what got people trading stories, and banding together in support.

In a lot of ways, it's really incredibly sad... If he was just a crappy businessman, and just admitted such, and then at the minimum APOLOGIZED, lots of people would be much less upset. Upset, yeah - but there are lots of crappy businessmen around.

Not too many start attacking, threatening, and belittling the folks they owe, though. That's where he lost any - ANY - small goodwill ANYONE might have had.

Joshua Pantalleresco
03-03-2007, 01:22 AM
I think he brought it on himself, this time.

There's a history (waves to Olney Historian Scott Shaw) of his meltdowns and erratic behavior; he's had lots of crash-and-burn plans (cancelled conventions, failure to reimburse folks like Gail).

But what he did here — commissioning work, then using deception to try to weasel out of paying, THEN attacking the people to who he owed money — is what got people trading stories, and banding together in support.

In a lot of ways, it's really incredibly sad... If he was just a crappy businessman, and just admitted such, and then at the minimum APOLOGIZED, lots of people would be much less upset. Upset, yeah - but there are lots of crappy businessmen around.

Not too many start attacking, threatening, and belittling the folks they owe, though. That's where he lost any - ANY - small goodwill ANYONE might have had.

Guys can be bad businessmen and hide it for years. The big problem with the net sometimes is that since it is so big it's easy for someone to meltdown here and there without too many people noticing it. This thread though has been Olney's nail to his coffin. If the douchebag had been upfront with his errors I know there'd have been a lot more slack from people.

It restored my faith that justice sometimes still happens. So thanks guys. And really Tom, Matt, Colleen Doran and many others have taught me a lot about action. So thanks.

JP

Darediva
03-03-2007, 01:35 AM
Reading recent posts and got myself thinking about how many other people in other types of work have gotten scammed by Rick. My business is really only peripheral to anything to do with comics, and he tried to scam me, too. For a rather decent amount, I might add. I have his promise to pay me written in his own hand, on that Christmas card from two years ago, and have yet to see the first bit of real money. Did he do this to the doctor who treated him for the heart attack? The guy who keeps the Van of Justice running (sort of a rhetorical question there)?

The comics industry may just be the tip of the iceberg for this guy's debt, ya think?

Joshua Pantalleresco
03-03-2007, 01:42 AM
You make a good point.
I want a gift certificate to Amazon, then.

make sure the certificate isn't done in crayon. Watch out for spelling errors. They'll give it away.

JP

Reverend Smooth
03-03-2007, 01:49 AM
The comics industry may just be the tip of the iceberg for this guy's debt, ya think?Very good point.

Samuel Catalino
03-03-2007, 03:03 AM
Yes, but to be fair, most of the posts are about Danny's hat.

Gail

Gail,

I am fond of Dreadstar's hat, myself.

Best,

Samuel

Paul Smith
03-03-2007, 03:06 AM
OK, so far we’ve seen threats, insults, misogyny, homophobia, bigotry, lies, theft, fraud, insanity, delusions, meltdowns, hysteria and the list goes on ...

What I want to know is, WHAT THE HELL DOES A HAPPY MEAL HAVE TO DO WITH THIS?

I ask because, at dinner the other night, I regaled the family with, well ... all of this. When I got to the part about the photo of Mad “Doc” Martin (business ninja at large) and his Happy Meal at the courthouse, it hit me. I felt the Happy Meal was important, it signified ... something ... but, damned if I knew what it was.

Does the Happy Meal grant special abilities? Does Rick fear ferociously frightening fulsome fries from France? Did the Happy Meal beat up the van and take the Belt of Justice?

What’s the buzz? Tell me what’s happening.

TonyIsabella
03-03-2007, 03:28 AM
I think that's part of the reason Gail (and her Holy YABS Army) got this thread going - because not enough people connected with enough accounts for new targets to know what they might be in for.

Honestly? The charity thing is a good scam - and gets you thinking benevolently and (no pun) charitably about the guy. And then things just start coming apart at the seams.

I was never involved with him in an employment/freelance capacity - but he approached me on Comicon.com about ORCA. And I responded - but not as favorably as he wanted, and he went bonkers that I wasn't being MORE supportive of his charity efforts. I've almost never posted there since.

As I think I mentioned in this thread several years ago, my first exposure to Olney came when I was working for Topps Comics and putting together the letters columns for X-Files, Xena, and the like.

Mixed in with the readers letters was a nasty letter from Olney *demanding* that Topps send him tons of free stuff for ORCA. It was an incredibly pushy note, clearly just the latest in a series he had sent the company. I couldn't imagine Topps or any publisher would have responded favorably to it. I saw no need to pass it on to my editors and it eventually got tossed with all the other unused letters when the comics line folded.

Tony

Samuel Catalino
03-03-2007, 04:10 AM
I assure you...if he holds a con, he will be the ONLY person there. He will have no guests.

Matt,

I respectfully disagree with you in one point.

He is the Con. One can not hold what one is.

Best,

Samuel

Samuel Catalino
03-03-2007, 04:16 AM
Yeah, but only because I was shouting for joy loud enough, you could practically hear me all the way in Lakeland! :p

~Bev

Bev,

I better turn up my hearing aid. I could not hear you from Pasco County. ;)

Best,

Samuel

Flamebird
03-03-2007, 04:24 AM
He is insane.




I will keep doing what I can. And will keep on until he pays everyone and apologizes to everyone.

And bakes me cookies.


My God, You are fearless!:eek:

Danny Donovan
03-03-2007, 05:02 AM
My question is this:

If the rumours have been around that Olney is a completely unscrupulous arsehole for years/decades, what possessed people to ever do business with him ?

Associating with him re the comic book community is acceptable, but to trust him to PAY for services, that's an entirely different thing.

I've met people face to face in business and if I don't like 'em within a minute, there's no fuckin' way I'd trust them with my money.


The comic biz is a funny thing. Up until Unscrewed! came along we really didn't have a "better business bureau" to refer to. There are a lot of people who will bitch about someone and there are times when it's just a case of sour grapes. Egos ruffled, bad mix of personalities, etc. So as long as you have a few people that are saying "hey, he's just misunderstood" if you didn't know any better, (and all of this info wasn't public until just now because no one stood up until recently) its easy to get taken in.

Because like Gail, and others have said it's easy to feel sorry for the little bugger at first before you get to know him. Thinking he's just another harmless fanboy with hopes of greatness until he starts melting down. It's a complete sociopathic tendency.

Sociopaths have the uncanny ability to appear normal, even somewhat decent for awhile, and that's how they sucker you into their psychosis. But of course now ALL of his lies, threats, and other meltdowns have been made public, there is very little excuse for "willful ignorance" on the part of anyone.

Another reason Unscrewed! is a much needed organization. :)


Also, Rick has begged to be let back on the Jim Main yahoo group. Soooooooo you can probably expect him to return here soon enough. (thanks Matt. :mad:)

Flamebird
03-03-2007, 05:04 AM
OK, so far we’ve seen threats, insults, misogyny, homophobia, bigotry, lies, theft, fraud, insanity, delusions, meltdowns, hysteria and the list goes on ...

What I want to know is, WHAT THE HELL DOES A HAPPY MEAL HAVE TO DO WITH THIS?
I ask because, at dinner the other night, I regaled the family with, well ... all of this. When I got to the part about the photo of Mad “Doc” Martin (business ninja at large) and his Happy Meal at the courthouse, it hit me. I felt the Happy Meal was important, it signified ... something ... but, damned if I knew what it was.

Does the Happy Meal grant special abilities? Does Rick fear ferociously frightening fulsome fries from France? Did the Happy Meal beat up the van and take the Belt of Justice?

What’s the buzz? Tell me what’s happening.

It's because when peanut told his "invisible imaginary talking fish" lawyer about all us mean plebes and trolls, his lawyer had "happy meal grin". Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

Basically, the guys nuts and we're beatin a dead horseburger.

Danny Donovan
03-03-2007, 05:15 AM
It's because when peanut told his "invisible imaginary talking fish" lawyer about all us mean plebes and trolls, his lawyer had "happy meal grin". Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

Basically, the guy's bat-shit insane and we're beatin a dead horseburger.

fixed it for you.

the4thpip
03-03-2007, 05:38 AM
It's because when peanut told his "invisible imaginary talking fish" lawyer about all us mean plebes and trolls, his lawyer had "happy meal grin". Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

Basically, the guys nuts and we're beatin a dead horseburger.

He actually used the expression at least twice:

Again, I can't stop anyone from taking Mark Waid up on his offer to pay their legal expenses. I maen, when my attorney read that and then subsequently looked into Mr. Waid ... he smiled a great big happy meal smile.

Also -- You might want to warn Tom about using his job and work resources in donning his superhero cape to 'investigate' me. He should know that is illegal. Least wise, how and why he's doing it. But it is probably already too late to avoid any life complications for him. Sorry, Tom. Rack up another Happy Meal smile!

Who knew Mayor McCheese was a lawyer before he went into politics?

Flamebird
03-03-2007, 05:51 AM
fixed it for you.

Aww, ya big sweetie. ;)



You're right though.


Now quit being mean to batshit!!

the4thpip
03-03-2007, 05:53 AM
Now quit being mean to batshit!!

An excellent fertilizer that certainly deserves better.

Gail Simone
03-03-2007, 06:36 AM
Some days, I'm so scared of Rick's terrifying threats that I can barely stop laughing long enough to call him a deadbeat again.

He's that scary.

And Happy Meals are gross!

Gail

KevinTBrown
03-03-2007, 06:39 AM
Just for you, Kevin, I will spill the beans.


That, and Shelly told me I could.

So, without further ado...

Unscrewed just made it's first $100!

We sold our first ad space to a very worthy cause! Go to the Unscrewed site and click the pretty ad as soon as Shelly gets it working! :D

~Bev

Aww, thank you, Bev. Makes me feel special. :) (Sorry I missed the "announcement" last night.)

And definitely congratulations on the fist $100! First of many I hope....

KevinTBrown
03-03-2007, 07:01 AM
He is insane.




I will keep doing what I can. And will keep on until he pays everyone and apologizes to everyone.

And bakes me cookies.

*strokes Bev's ego*

Nice job, Bev,... Good job, Bev...Have a cookie?

Only if it's chocolate chip. :p

~Bev

All this talk of cookies.... Hmmm.... has me thinking. (I know, dangerous thing to be sure.)

Not going to make this a promise (yet), but depending on the amount of people here who show at WW Chicago this year, I'll make a cheesecake (yes I said make, so how does white chocolate sound to you all?) and we can have a small get-together in my hotel room. We can can raise a glass of whatever beverage we have available, have a slice of heaven, and toast the demise of Rick Olney. No NDAs need be signed, additional Happy Meals are of course optional.




Of course, I'm hoping the enticement of cheesecake enough to have Gail show at Chicago. ;)

Flamebird
03-03-2007, 07:30 AM
All this talk of cookies.... Hmmm.... has me thinking. (I know, dangerous thing to be sure.)

Not going to make this a promise (yet), but depending on the amount of people here who show at WW Chicago this year, I'll make a cheesecake (yes I said make, so how does white chocolate sound to you all?) and we can have a small get-together in my hotel room. We can can raise a glass of whatever beverage we have available, have a slice of heaven, and toast the demise of Rick Olney. No NDAs need be signed, additional Happy Meals are of course optional.




Of course, I'm hoping the enticement of cheesecake enough to have Gail show at Chicago. ;)

But you'll still take us for hot dogs, right Kevin?:)




And curse you all, I just went in and made a big batch of choclate chip cookies. So much for MY diet.

NatGertler
03-03-2007, 07:30 AM
I hate to stop the 100% negative record against Rick, but he did reimburse me for my expense to run that Press Release.Just quoting this for people who were looking for those Rick had paid. (And of course if paying expenses or a portion thereof counts, then Gail is on the list as well.)

KevinTBrown
03-03-2007, 07:36 AM
But you'll still take us for hot dogs, right Kevin?:)




And curse you all, I just went in and made a big batch of choclate chip cookies. So much for MY diet.

Take you out...? Welllllll.... Odds are no car for me for the weekend, but I can give directions for those to buy their own at Gene & Jude's. ;)



Shit, so much for MY diet too..... :o

Danny Donovan
03-03-2007, 07:38 AM
Just quoting this for people who were looking for those Rick had paid. (And of course if paying expenses or a portion thereof counts, then Gail is on the list as well.)

If I remember correctly, and lord knows my brain doesn't work all that well at the BEST of times, isn't the point of contention with Gail that he PROMISED to reimburse her but never did?

Now it's great that Richard got his "investment" back, but that's not paying for services rendered. That is merely repaying someone you borrowed money from, but I will allow it as an example of at least one debt being paid.

Thing is, there are a few people that got money they INVESTED in back, but not what they were promised. Like the vendor that set up at one of the failed shows EVENTUALLY got his booth payment back, (even though it was never Rick's to begin with) Same as the clock guy. He got the money he put upfront for the clocks back .... But no money for the work he did on it.

I say count these instances as "partial credit" --- Enough to shut someone up but not enough to be considered "doing the right thing."

TCJohnson
03-03-2007, 07:39 AM
No NDAs need be signed, additional Happy Meals are of course optional.


Have them sign a DA, so they are legally forced to tell everybody how good your cheesecake.

TCJohnson
03-03-2007, 07:40 AM
My question is this:

If the rumours have been around that Olney is a completely unscrupulous arsehole for years/decades, what possessed people to ever do business with him ?


Even now, there will be tons of people who don't know about this. Lot's of people avoid comic book rumor sites.

Gail Simone
03-03-2007, 07:44 AM
Just quoting this for people who were looking for those Rick had paid. (And of course if paying expenses or a portion thereof counts, then Gail is on the list as well.)

Absolutely. We're looking for the truth, not a smear job. If the occasional person was paid in full and on time, good for them, and we want to hear about it.

Gail

Papergirl
03-03-2007, 07:48 AM
All this talk of cookies.... Hmmm.... has me thinking. (I know, dangerous thing to be sure.)

Not going to make this a promise (yet), but depending on the amount of people here who show at WW Chicago this year, I'll make a cheesecake (yes I said make, so how does white chocolate sound to you all?) and we can have a small get-together in my hotel room. We can can raise a glass of whatever beverage we have available, have a slice of heaven, and toast the demise of Rick Olney. No NDAs need be signed, additional Happy Meals are of course optional.




Of course, I'm hoping the enticement of cheesecake enough to have Gail show at Chicago. ;)

*cries*

There's no way I can make it to Chicago this year! :(

~Bev

Gail Simone
03-03-2007, 08:06 AM
If I remember correctly, and lord knows my brain doesn't work all that well at the BEST of times, isn't the point of contention with Gail that he PROMISED to reimburse her but never did?




No.

For the record...Rick conned me into paying my own way to the con, as it would save a lot of time, apparently. I was dumb and believed his bullshit, like so many others. So I paid for my husband's fare and my own. I was supposed to be reimbursed before I left, he lied about that.

I was supposed to be reimbursed at the con, another lie.

I was supposed to have a check in my mailbox before I got home, another lie.

Rick is an habitual liar. I wouldn't trust him to tell me what day it was on judgment day.

Then there were all sorts of little things that were supposed to be paid, meals and such, that he was way too screwed up to organize, and I paid all of those myself. He's lied about this several times. He was supposed to reimburse me for this stuff, too, and he didn't.

The first night, we were put up in a disgusting armpit of a motel. Heidi's room was so gross she slept in her car. The last night, he held us hostage for two hours while he told stories of how wonderful he was, I swear to god, when we had an early flight in the morning.

The organizational genius hadn't booked us a room, and everything was full. In his mind, none of this is his fault. Again, he promised us dinner, which we were dreading because we were fucking sick of him by then. Fortunately for us, his credit card was declined at the hotel they finally got us a room at (and to be fair, that was a much nicer hotel), so we were once again on our own for dinner because he didn't have money to pay. We were thrilled (although the only thing open was a repulsive Denny's, literally the worst I've ever seen. It REEKED).



Anyway, months later, after many, many lies and a lot of hostility and begging for me to attend another con he was planning (lots of promises, which we already knew meant nothing in Rick's mouth), he paid part of my airfare. The bulk of it, but not the total amount.

He came up with an arbitrary figure to cover my expenses beyond my airfare and to make up for all the nightmares he caused of 100 dollars. HE came up with that figure and several times told me it was coming. That never came, the rest of my airfare didn't come.


After two years of his lies that he was going to pay, and more of his weird wounded shit, I told him to stuff that remainder up his ass, I didn't want it anymore.

I can prove every word of this, which is what has driven him so nutty in the first place. Every lie he's told, I have an email from him saying the opposite. Which has just made him battier than a fruitbat.

Finally, he started lying his ASS off. Not only did we all have a wonderful time at his wonderful con (some people did have fun, but not because of Rick's incompetence, but because they got to see old friends...several people ditched the con entirely to go play football on the lawn), but he magnanimously paid for all these meals and stuff (maybe he did, for some. We paid for nearly everything ourselves and so did everyone at our tables).

And finally, he started claiming on this thread that he paid not only MY full airfare (which he lied about, I can prove it) but my husband's as well. He was adamant about this, even though it's utter bullshit.

The weird thing about it is, I never ASKED for him to pay Scott's way. It was never part of the deal. Part of Rick's delaying tactic bullshit is to promise MORE will be coming when the money eventually comes. I think this bit of bullshit probably causes some people to wait a little more patiently. With me, it was never part of the deal, and I keep my word. He promised several times he was GOING to pay Scott's way, but it was never something I asked for, nor was I ever upset that he didn't keep his word, as it was promised after the fact.

For the record, too, the reason I was willing to pay Scott's way is that Rick made it sound like a wonderful vacation, instead of a crap-attended, poorly organized nightmare of terrible hotels and broken promises in the middle of Nowhere. I've since gotten wiser.

The final coda is, the day after once again implying that he paid my husband's airfare, he finally, angrily, admitted he hadn't, why should he?

Well, because you said you would several times, deadbeat. Some people have honor. Their word means something. They don't change their story every five minutes.

So, I'm out Scott's airfare, which is fine, and I'm out maybe a couple hundred bucks for expenses and for the unpaid balance of the airfare I shelled out of my own pocked when my mom was sick in the hospital. But, I say again, while Rick certainly owes me that money by any ethical standard, I have told him I don't want it and won't accept it. If, god help us all, Rick somehow has two dollars to rub together that he found in the seat cushions of the Van of Justice, I would much rather it go to Val or to JT or to Doc or one of the many other people he's cheated and lied to.

So, kept his promises? No.

Reimbursed me what was owed? No.

Lied about it constantly for two years? Yes.

But does he owe me money now, after I told him to shove it?

Nope. Not in my eyes. I told him to stick it and I'm glad I did.

Gail

Gail Simone
03-03-2007, 08:17 AM
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:40:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Gail Simone" View Contact Details View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: your mail LAST RESPONSE
To: "Rick Olney of TightLip Entertainment" <orcafresh@att.net>, "Gail Simone" <gail@gailsimone.com>


I'm not going to argue with you, Rick.

Frankly, two years of broken promises and weird
behavior from you is plenty.

'Veiled threat?' No. But if a friend of mine asks
what my experience was like, I will absolutely tell
them, and I'll add that it took TWO YEARS to get
reimbursed and only then because I gave up on the
final promised amount. Thankfully, in the law, truth
is the ultimate defense.

I don't care what your reasoning is. Most of this
happened BEFORE you had a heart attack, which of
course is news to me.

You asked me to come as a guest, promised much that
you didn't deliver, and I still didn't complain. Why?
Because I felt sorry for you. The fact is, Rick, I
HELD UP EVERY BIT OF MY END. I showed up, on time (you
guys were very late), I turned in my expenses, and
paid for my airfare and meals, and while others played
outside on the lawn, I stayed in my area because I
said I would. You want to make yourself look even
worse by trying to act wounded, that's your business.
Yes, I was more polite about it than I should have
been, but at that time, I thought you were
well-meaning but horribly organized. Now I believe
it's more than that.

To top it off, now you're saying I hadn't shown up at
your message board in a year, even though I have
emails from you as late as October, promising (as
usual) to pay this amount. I waited over and over
again while you took care of other, newer con
expenses. I think your right to pretend to be the
victim here is well past gone. You said you lost my
email, but you know full well that I have a board at
CBR.


Don't send me a check, and lose my email address
again, please. There's no 'fixing' two years of broken
promises and bad faith, and yes, I hope the next batch
of 'guests' fare better than we did.

Gail

Gail Simone
03-03-2007, 08:18 AM
Must be sad when your own lies come back to make you a liar AGAIN.

Gail

Flamebird
03-03-2007, 08:25 AM
Must be sad when your own lies come back to make you a liar AGAIN.

Gail

Maybe he thinks it's like math, 2 negatives = 1 positive.

So he probably thinks 200 lies=1 truth.

the only one that matters to his warped little life.

SUPERECWFAN1
03-03-2007, 08:25 AM
As a kid I loved getting a Happy Meal. I'd stop at McDonalds and it was fun to get one and play with the toy involved. Can we all just let this go. Rick's giving Happy Meals a bad name ! Please stop the insanity , we were all kids once and we had our Happy Meals.

Can we not make Happy Meals look bad here ?






























;)

Matt Doc Martin
03-03-2007, 08:34 AM
As a kid I loved getting a Happy Meal. I'd stop at McDonalds and it was fun to get one and play with the toy involved. Can we all just let this go. Rick's giving Happy Meals a bad name ! Please stop the insanity , we were all kids once and we had our Happy Meals.

Can we not make Happy Meals look bad here ?


;)

At CAPE I will try to make Happy Meals good again.

SUPERECWFAN1
03-03-2007, 08:38 AM
At CAPE I will try to make Happy Meals good again.


(starts to cry some) Do it for the clown by god. Do it for Ronald McDonald and all those kids who believe that eating tons of cheeseburgers won't led em down the road to obseity !

Papergirl
03-03-2007, 08:41 AM
(starts to cry some) Do it for the clown by god. Do it for Ronald McDonald and all those kids who believe that eating tons of cheeseburgers won't led em down the road to obseity !
Okay, THAT made me choke on my coffee, damn you!

:p

~Bev

Danny Donovan
03-03-2007, 08:55 AM
So, kept his promises? No.

Reimbursed me what was owed? No.

Lied about it constantly for two years? Yes.

But does he owe me money now, after I told him to shove it?

Nope. Not in my eyes. I told him to stick it and I'm glad I did.

Gail

This is what I was saying. The original arguement 2 years ago was that he failed to reimburse you what was owed.

The fact that you just walked away from a person who was bringing you nothing but grief over a broken promise is irrelevent. I mean I'm glad you didn't wind up letting it become a major ongoing issue in your life because he's not worth it.

But that doesn't mean he didn't break his word, and that he's not liable for those broken promises then. You were well within your right to say "forget it" and walk away, no one's arguing that.

But it still doesn't make the original hardship okay because you got fed up with dealing with it. He may be off the hook for giving you what you were promised, but he's not off the hook for being a liar.

SteveForbes
03-03-2007, 08:56 AM
(starts to cry some) Do it for the clown by god. Do it for Ronald McDonald and all those kids who believe that eating tons of cheeseburgers won't led em down the road to obseity !

Quoted for hilarity!

-llama

Blake Petit
03-03-2007, 09:21 AM
You know what would be the ultimate?

If Unscrewed could cut a deal with McDonald's to be their Happy Meal toys for a month. Think about it, little action figures based on the characters from the anthology, bag art by Scott Shaw!, and a special "scuzzysauce" flavor for the McNuggets.

Dude, that would RULE.

Papergirl
03-03-2007, 09:26 AM
You know what would be the ultimate?

If Unscrewed could cut a deal with McDonald's to be their Happy Meal toys for a month. Think about it, little action figures based on the characters from the anthology, bag art by Scott Shaw!, and a special "scuzzysauce" flavor for the McNuggets.

Dude, that would RULE.
You lost my enthusiasm with the "scuzzysauce".

Just... EWWWWWW!!! :eek:

~Bev

Paul Smith
03-03-2007, 09:27 AM
(starts to cry some) Do it for the clown by god. Do it for Ronald McDonald and all those kids who believe that eating tons of cheeseburgers won't led em down the road to obseity !

Now that it's been explained to me, I think the Happpy Meal has comported itself well here as an instrument of truth and justice.

MacQuarrie
03-03-2007, 09:28 AM
Yeah, but he's done it several times, so at some point it stops being stupid.

I wanna know his motivation. ^^
The immediate ego-gratification of convincing somebody that he's a bigshot publisher/promoter is more important to him than the inevitable humiliation of having to cancel and fail. Plus, since he has no conscience, he doesn't have to deal with the emotional pain of having misled, used, harmed and betrayed people. See, to Rick, other people aren't real and don't have feelings, or at least their feelings aren't as valid as his.

Charles RB
03-03-2007, 09:28 AM
He has his Eisner Award acceptance speech at hand 24/7.

"I'd like to thank the judges for accepting the bribe."

Calliope's Comics
03-03-2007, 09:29 AM
Oh sure,
I leave the shop last night and then everyone starts talking about canes, when I have a cool cane story. So I will relate it now. 2 years ago I went into an antique mall in Chicago. I walk up to this case and see one of the coolest things ever. It is the head of a cane carved to look like a demon, with rubies for its eyes. The little blurb about it says that it was the head of Anton LaVey's Cane. I was ready to buy it , but the seller could not provide any provenance, so I decided that $700 for something that might real was a little too expensive. Oh and also:

What should Calliope's Realm name their publishing imprint? Answer the question "Matt" "Doc" "Martin" or you will face CIVIL ACTION. :D

MacQuarrie
03-03-2007, 09:31 AM
Hit and hold the ALT key and with the num lock on, hit 0233 on your number pad....

Or hit option-e followed by e again, if you're using a Mac.

MacQuarrie
03-03-2007, 09:35 AM
Awesome Bev. I would kick in there as well. But I don't have a banner (or even a website)... so it would be sort of silly!

E-mail me. jim@jimmacq.com

In fact, any artist or writer who got burned by Olney and doesn't have a website, e-mail me. I think we can accommodate you.

MacQuarrie
03-03-2007, 09:38 AM
Last time I will check...does anyone know who the person was that got paid by Rick Olney?


Someone did...once.

I believe ti was reimbursement for a table at a canceled Mini-Con, not payment for work commissioned. I could be wrong.

Stressfactor
03-03-2007, 09:42 AM
Last night as I was driving home, for some strange reason, I thought of all of your actions here going down in history......

Long after Rick is gone, the next time word leaks out on some unscrupulous publisher I can hear the cry going up...... REMEMBER UNSCREWED! The troops will rally and evil will be crushed under their thundering charge.

KevinTBrown
03-03-2007, 09:47 AM
*cries*

There's no way I can make it to Chicago this year! :(

~Bev

Hmmmmmmm..... Need to work on that then.

Danny Donovan
03-03-2007, 09:54 AM
Last night as I was driving home, for some strange reason, I thought of all of your actions here going down in history......

Long after Rick is gone, the next time word leaks out on some unscrupulous publisher I can hear the cry going up...... REMEMBER UNSCREWED! The troops will rally and evil will be crushed under their thundering charge.


Actually, Unscrewed! is going to remain a force after Rick. (as far as I understand from recent conversations) It'll be a resource for creators who find themselves in a similar bind. Or to work as a warning to help new creators learn what to watch out for.

Once this matter is dead and burried Unscrewed! will remain standing. :)

Calliope's Comics
03-03-2007, 09:59 AM
KevinTBrown,
You forgot to warn the out of towners that if they ask for ketchup on their hot dog from Gene and Judes they will get dirty looks and no ketchup.

KevinTBrown
03-03-2007, 10:16 AM
KevinTBrown,
You forgot to warn the out of towners that if they ask for ketchup on their hot dog from Gene and Judes they will get dirty looks and no ketchup.

More fun to see the looks on their faces..... :D



Oh all right.... sigh.

JTPencils
03-03-2007, 10:17 AM
No.

For the record...Rick conned me into paying my own way to the con, ...

Gail

But... but... but Gail. You were smiling in that picture. Doesn't that mean you were having a wonderous time?

SteveForbes
03-03-2007, 10:19 AM
But... but... but Gail. You were smiling in that picture. Doesn't that mean you were having a wonderous time?

Was it an actual smile, or was she just showing her teeth to keep him at bay?

-(two sides to every coin) llama

Gail Simone
03-03-2007, 10:22 AM
But... but... but Gail. You were smiling in that picture. Doesn't that mean you were having a wonderous time?

I can't believe that's actually his defense, but it is.

Too bad no one was snapping pictures when he put us up in a dump of a hotel, or when everyone but me left my area to go play football, or when he acted like an utter creep to the young cosplay girls, or when he repeatedly lied about payment, or when he forgot to book us a hotel and then his credit card was rejected.

Gail

Flamebird
03-03-2007, 10:28 AM
I can't believe that's actually his defense, but it is.

Too bad no one was snapping pictures when he put us up in a dump of a hotel, or when everyone but me left my area to go play football, or when he acted like an utter creep to the young cosplay girls, or when he repeatedly lied about payment, or when he forgot to book us a hotel and then his credit card was rejected.

Gail



You're SUCH a DIVA,Gail.

Honestly, expecting to go as a guest and be treated like one...SHEESH.

I'll, bet you wanted clean towels in you're hotel room too! ;)

Perry Holley
03-03-2007, 10:29 AM
(starts to cry some) Do it for the clown by god. Do it for Ronald McDonald and all those kids who believe that eating tons of cheeseburgers won't led em down the road to obseity !http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Knightsky_2006/TheBurgerWars.jpg

Papergirl
03-03-2007, 10:43 AM
Hmmmmmmm..... Need to work on that then.
You paying my airfare and hotel? Do I need to sign an NDA first? :D

~Bev

Danny Donovan
03-03-2007, 10:49 AM
There's a reason why I'm a writer and not a graphic designer...

But I thought I'd try my hand at this. Bare in mind it's just my little ghetto photo editing software.

http://www.zazzle.com/product/235350775643965160

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/front.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/back.jpg

rummblestrips
03-03-2007, 10:51 AM
I would just like to say for the record that I am at a convention at the moment, there are people here.. none of them smell badly, everyone's being kind, there is a charity auction that is an actual charity auction, the panels are fantastic...

and I just got hit on by a Klingon. No, really, I did.

Danny Donovan
03-03-2007, 10:57 AM
I would just like to say for the record that I am at a convention at the moment, there are people here.. none of them smell badly, everyone's being kind, there is a charity auction that is an actual charity auction, the panels are fantastic...

and I just got hit on by a Klingon. No, really, I did.


My first year at Dragon*Con I got invited to lunch at Hooters by an ARMY of klingons.

I went because.. well do YOU want to turn down a free lunch by a warrior race?

It was so freakin' bizzare the whole top floor of that place was like covered in Klingons. On the plus side, I did get the most attention from the waitresses because I was the only one in that looked halfway normal. :p

And I got to bust the chops of someone dressed as a storm trooper.

Charles RB
03-03-2007, 11:00 AM
My first year at Dragon*Con I got invited to lunch at Hooters by an ARMY of klingons.

My first year, I got a group of teenage girls gravitating towards my accent and asking if I could smuggle them back to England, and then I was convinced it would be a good idea to help recite Transformers porn in public while being filmed.

Roll on September!

NatGertler
03-03-2007, 11:02 AM
Too bad no one was snapping pictures when he put us up in a dump of a hotel, or when everyone but me left my area to go play football, or when he acted like an utter creep to the young cosplay girls, or when he repeatedly lied about payment, or when he forgot to book us a hotel and then his credit card was rejected."I will never forge the smells of the Mighty Mini Con myself. My fondest memory (besides the excellent company of Gail Simone, Stuart Moore, Tom Peyer, Buddy Scalera and so on) is the guys playing a game of touch football on a carcinogenic lawn afterwards." --Heidi McDonald (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/36/t/002219/p/1.html)

Danny Donovan
03-03-2007, 11:02 AM
My first year, I got a group of teenage girls gravitating towards my accent and asking if I could smuggle them back to England, and then I was convinced it would be a good idea to help recite Transformers porn in public while being filmed.

Roll on September!

What part do you hail from? I lived in North Yorkshire for 3 years..

I still wake up screaming. lol.

j.k

GCom
03-03-2007, 11:03 AM
I'm back at work after having to take a few days off. Can I get a catch-up?



With Tolerance For Health Issues...

GCom

KevinTBrown
03-03-2007, 11:05 AM
You paying my airfare and hotel? Do I need to sign an NDA first? :D

~Bev

Well, I'd offer to share the hotel room with you (the room I always get does have an extra hide-a -bed in the couch), but not quite sure how that would go over with my wife. ;) Not sure even an NDA would protect me! :p